0:01Good afternoon, everyone.
0:02My name is Greg Hahn, and I'm chair of the uh Indianapolis Public Transportation Corporation, and we welcome you to our annual what's not our annual meeting, our monthly meeting, the last of our annual meetings for 2025.
0:21And uh at this point in time, we'd like to do a rule call.
0:26And our uh brilliant uh chief legal counsel, Bob Fry will do the rule call.
0:34I don't think the word brilliant was in your script.
0:39Um directors, please indicate your attend.
0:41That's when I call your name.
0:52Director Fagan, Director Wilson, Director Gardner, President.
0:58Uh we have a quorum, Mr.
1:02Uh, next is uh awards and commendations on our president and CEO, Jennifer Purz, will present uh any words and commendations that we have uh tonight.
1:15So uh the Jennifer Pierce, president and CEO.
1:20Uh, we'll start off as we always do with our safe drivers.
1:24So our November 2025 safe drivers are shown up on the screen.
1:29Congratulations to all of you.
1:31Um, these folks were recognized for their safe driving for the month of November and received a National Safety Council patch pin and certificates.
1:40I'll highlight from that list Ricardo Oxley, who I feel like I've highlighted before.
1:46He's been great, great uh safe driving for a long time.
1:4926 years of service to Indigo, and uh 16 of those for safe driving.
1:56So congratulations and thank you for your service, Mr.
2:04Next, I will highlight our November operations employee of the month, Sylvia Walker.
2:09Sylvia is in our radio control room as one of our dispatchers.
2:14She has um she I received the following in her nomination.
2:19Sylvia Walker has an excellent attendance record and consistently takes initiative to assist new operators who may be lost on their routes.
2:27Her work ethic is exceptional and she collaborates effectively with her co-workers.
2:31Sylvia provides guidance to help streamline operations in the radio room.
2:35Her dedication to her job sets a standard for her peers, and she maintains a high level of professionalism in every aspect of her work.
2:42Congratulations to Sylvia.
2:48And then we have a special guest who has not made it yet.
2:52So I'm gonna hold this next one for when he re arrives.
2:56But we are going to at some point tonight celebrate our ATU president Roy Lester as he retires at the end of this year.
3:03So if I can come back to that, Mr.
3:05Chairman, at some point, that would be great.
3:10Um without objection, we will enter into the record the finance committee report for its meeting on December 11th and the service committee report for its meeting on December the 12th.
3:29Let the record show there isn't, and they'll be entered into the record.
3:34Our next is uh regular agenda, and we'll begin with action item A1, and that's consideration approval of the board minutes from November 20th, 2025.
3:47Uh, are there any questions or comments from the board?
3:50Uh after you've reviewed the minutes.
3:56Uh, can I get a motion and consideration and approval of the November 20th, 2025 board minute meetings?
4:09There being a motion and second.
4:11All those in favor say aye.
4:17Director show no objection, and that will pass.
4:20Uh now we're going to go back to our awards and ceremony, right?
4:27We have a very special guest this afternoon.
4:30Um, and a very special recognition.
4:33Roy Luster is joining us tonight for nearly 30 years.
4:38Lester has been a member of the Indigo family, paying playing several starring roles.
4:42In 1997, he started as a professional coach operator, driving a bus for the agency for about 13 years.
4:49But he actually started driving buses long before that, even.
4:52When he was in his early 20s, he drove school buses, and after that, he drove for Indigo's paratransit contractor.
5:00He moved over to Indigo, making $9.75 an hour.
5:04Roy says for him, driving buses has always been about the people and helping them get to where they need to go.
5:10While driving for Indigo, Roy was always involved with ATU local 1070.
5:15First, he was a union steward, then worked his way onto the executive board.
5:19He climbed the ladder to vice president before eventually being elected president in 2010.
5:24For the last 15 years as our union leader, along with union secretary Rachel Hill and the executive board, President Lester has diligently worked to serve the union members here at Indigo.
5:35His motto is Together We Are Stronger.
5:37And he says he considers it a blessing to serve people.
5:40So you can guess what or who Roy will miss the most about his time here.
5:46In his retirement, Roy is very much looking forward to spending quality time with his mother, who's 90 years young and still living on her own.
5:54Roy, we wish you plenty of rest, relaxation, quality time with your family.
5:59If you wouldn't mind joining us up front, we'd like to present you with a few tokens of our appreciation for your longstanding commitment to the agency.
6:06And I'll call the board members up to get a photograph.
6:37It says with deep appreciation to Roy Lester for 28 years of service to Indigo, including 18 years of distinguished leadership as president of ATU Local 1070.
6:48Your dedication, compassion, and tireless advocacy have touched countless lives, strengthened the Indigo workforce, and elevated public transit in Indianapolis.
6:57Thank you for your partnership, leadership, and legacy presented with deep gratitude by Indigo.
8:07I enjoyed my time here.
9:31Good afternoon, uh board members and Director Rocha, budget manager for Indigo, and here to present action item A2.
9:39It is recommended that the IPTC Board of Directors authorize the approval of resolution 2025-10, transferring appropriations and carry forward of outstanding encumbrances for fiscal year 2025.
9:53State guidelines allow the board to carry forward on pay purchase orders at the end of the year.
9:58So this is a process that we do every year.
10:01And the benefit to Indigo is that once we roll this purchase orders into the next fiscal year, the expense will come out of the 2025 appropriations, preserving the 2026 budget for what we budgeted for next year.
10:15Alternatively, um the board chooses not to approve this action.
10:19IPTC would not be able to use 2025 appropriations to pay for any outstanding purchase orders in 2026, which could negatively impact the 2026 budget.
10:34This purchase orders are covered by uh 2025 budget.
10:40So in the next page, um you can see the resolution.
10:47Uh and section one outlines the transfer and appropriations.
10:52We're going to transfer $3 million within the operating budget from personal services to other services and charges.
11:00Section two outlines the total amount that we are requesting authorization to roll forward, which is 334 million, 411,056 and 20 cents.
11:15Finally, in the last page, you can see a lease.
11:25You can see a lease with all of this outstanding encumbrances to be rolled forward, uh broken down by operating and capital categories, vendor names, and with the largest amounts tied to the blue line project.
11:38And that concludes my presentation.
11:42Thank you very much, Andrea.
11:44Um there any questions or comments from the board members?
11:47Yeah, I just have one question.
11:49The three uh in the in the uh action memo.
11:54Um it said 334 million.
11:57What was what was the number?
11:58I don't I don't know.
11:59Yeah, 334 million, four hundred and eleven thousand fifty-six dollars and twenty cents.
12:05And and so the existing encumbrances are the three hundred and fifteen million and then the three million that you're transferring over.
12:12Yes, the the three million is only for the transferring appropriations.
12:17The 334 million, that is for the uh total amount that we are requesting to be roll forward.
12:25So the the 315 is a part of that 334.
12:30Just want to make sure I was on the same page.
12:34Any other questions, comments from the board?
12:38If not, can I get a motion for consideration and approval of resolution 2025-10 to transfer an appropriations and carry forward about standing encumbrances for fiscal year 2025?
12:58Yeah, board members, because this is adoption of a resolution.
13:00We need to do uh a roll call vote for your bylaws.
13:04So please indicate your vote on the present motion when I call your name.
13:08Director Slash, Director Quick, Director Fagan, Director Wilson.
13:13Aye, Director Gardner.
13:20Thank you very much.
13:25Next we'll go to uh action item number three.
13:29And that's consideration and approval of change order uh for the 1501 trench drains replacement project, which we've discussed in the past.
13:41We have and Sarah Stins, uh Senior Project Manager, Capital Facilities Project will make the presentation.
13:49Good afternoon, Sarah Suns, Senior Project Manager.
13:52Uh, this action item is for a recommendation that the board of directors authorize the president and CEO to execute a change order, the third change order with R.L.
14:02Turner for the amount of 126,395.50s.
14:09If approved, this change order would bring our project total to 444,808 and 90 cents.
14:18So as it was mentioned, we've been here before and we've discussed this project a few times.
14:24And this project began in the early parts of 2025 to address a deteriorating drainage system around our fuel lines at 1501 West Washington Street uh garage.
14:35Um, if approved, this change order will give us opportunity to complete the replacement and repair of all of that existing system.
14:43Um throughout the initial excavation activities for the project, we ran into the existing fuel line and found that that fuel line was what shallower and not exactly where it was shown on our as built drawings.
15:00This discovery caused us to have to go back to the drawing board with our designer of record and to come up with a new solution for being able to fix the issue that we had at hand.
15:08We have processed to date two change orders, one of which uh covered investigative camera work and uh of those plumbing lines and soil mitigation from hitting the fuel line.
15:20And then our second change order was to purchase the new materials needed to continue with the installment.
15:26Uh, this change order today would be able to get us across that finish line to finish those last fuel uh the last fuel lane and then the additional drain that is attached between the wash rack and the fuel lines.
15:40Um I'd be happy to answer any questions around this project specifically and um what kind of how we've come to this point or any questions about um how we plan to finish the project.
15:55Uh were there any questions or comments from the board members?
15:58You may remember we went through this one, what a couple meetings ago?
16:06Yeah, it's been it's been closer to the summertime.
16:09Anyway, well, thanks.
16:11Um if there aren't any uh questions or comments, can I get a motion for consideration approval of change order for the 1501 trench drains replacement project?
16:29We need to do no swimming boards.
16:34All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
16:40Record reflecting no opposition dispasses.
16:49A four consideration approval of change order for the CTC handrails project.
16:57Hello again, Sarah Stenz, senior project manager.
17:00Uh, this action item is for a recommendation that the board of directors authorized president and CEO.
17:06It's executed change order with advanced restoration contractors incorporated for an amount of 67,988.02.
17:16If approved, this change order would be the project total to 475,567.46 cents.
17:25So this is also an old project that's came before you all a while ago.
17:30Um, believe it or not, we actually initiated this project in the summer of 2023.
17:35And if you've been at the CTC at all in the past year and a half, you've seen these handrails installed and um hopefully you found them to be aesthetically pleasing.
17:45But um kind of throughout the life of the rain garden project, uh the contractor ran into a decent amount of issues that were unforeseen in the field.
17:55Um, some of which were items that were hidden behind the existing plates that sat along the edge, the detectable edge plates that you might have noticed, they had a kind of a rusted patina on them and they would have been around all three sides of any exposed garden.
18:11Um, and the intention was to put handrails in place to be able to provide a better uh level of safety for the public and being around those.
18:20Well, without um proper as built, once again, unfortunately, uh the contractor ran into some issues that we did not foresee when the planning of the project.
18:30And moving forward, we had them finish installing the handrails in this change order is to cover those additional costs that came throughout the project.
18:40Um, and if you'd like more details about what specifics there are that we ran into, I'd be happy to talk about them or any questions about the contractor.
18:52Sarah gonna have to I don't know a whole lot about construction, but this is the second time I've heard that we've had problems with as built.
19:06Who's responsibility is the why are we having problems with these as-built drawings and whose responsibility would that be?
19:13That's a great question.
19:15So I'll use the garage as a just a starting example.
19:19So the as built that we have would be the original contract drawings from 1984 when the building was built.
19:25And those set of drawings, when they're handed to the owner are expected to be true and honest to what was installed.
19:32Well, a lot of things have changed since 1984.
19:35We've done a lot of projects, we've maybe changed things.
19:39If somebody does not update a drawing, though, with new information, then all we have is what's in front of us.
19:46And what ultimately is happening is information might not be getting collected accurately, or it might not be getting updated in a manner that is reflective of real life conditions.
20:00So for the case at the CTC, the original contractor would have been responsible to build the building and all of the site according to a set of drawings that prescribed exactly how to do so.
20:11But if they changed something, or let's say they didn't do something 100%.
20:18So for example, a concrete slab was supposed to be four inches, it only became two inches.
20:25If they don't document that on a document and give it to us, we assume they did the right thing and they gave us a four-inch slab to work with.
20:35And then ultimately, when you start disassembling things, you start to find that things don't match.
20:41And then that's kind of what we're up against with some of these renovation projects.
20:46So it there's no way to there's no way to assign responsibility.
20:50The contractor could have done it, could have been us, could have been so it was just we're just kind of a lot of things.
20:55It could have been things.
20:56Definitely unfortunate.
20:58The only time I think you could find a direct person to blame is if something is brand spanking new and you go to change something on it on day two of having it and it's wrong.
21:09Then you could look at them and say that's your fault.
21:11But otherwise, we own a little bit of it.
21:14Thank you very much.
21:15Sarah, are we updating or we kind of going through a process as we learn new information to update our documents?
21:24And we're trying to also glean more information as we've been cutting open the slab at 1501 for the drain project, capturing things that are not on the drawings at all, and trying to get those on the drawings.
21:35So we're trying to do our due diligence to bring us up to speed in the few spaces that we have available.
21:42And you may be interested to know too on all of our capital projects now.
21:46Um we have an extensive closeout process where we make sure we receive all the soaper red, purple, blue, all of those.
21:54We make sure that we have all of the actually constructed conditions documented.
22:00So this wouldn't be a problem for future generations.
22:07Any other questions, comments?
22:12Um, can I get a motion for consideration or approval of change order for the CTC handrails project?
22:21There being a motion and second.
22:23All those in favor say aye.
22:26Any that are opposed, say nay.
22:30Record Little River show there were no nays.
22:33And so that is approved.
22:34Thank you very much.
22:36I've got one more for you.
22:41A5 is uh consideration approval of North Parking Lot Repaving Contractor.
22:49And again, for the record, Sarah Stins will make the presentation.
22:54Again, Sarah Stence Senior Project Manager.
22:56This one's a little bit easier.
22:58So this is for the recommendation for the board of directors to authorize the president and CEO to execute to execute a contract with Howard Companies for the value of 218,443.50 with a complete repaving and restriping of the north parking lot located at 1501 West Washington Street.
23:18So this is the front parking lot where most of our administrative staff and all of our visitors park.
23:23Um so over the years, uh it's beginning to spall and crack, leaving uneven sections of asphalt.
23:30The goal for this project is for us to mill down the top four inches of that asphalt pavement and then place back with brand new asphalt, uh removing a few uh random boxes that are in the parking lot that don't serve us anymore, and then uh to restripe and repaint all the curving there.
23:51And be happy to answer any questions on that one too.
23:53Sarah, how long do we anticipate this will to take?
23:58So in our solicitation, we did tell the contractor of record that they have 30 days to own the parking lot, and we will find parking for our staff at the South lot for those 30 days.
24:10Um we've also worked with them to uh we'll plan the work in the spring.
24:16Um, while they'll be under contract, they'll be due to start their work sometime between April and June.
24:23So we'll have a little bit of wiggle room around when works best for us as well.
24:29Sarah, does this uh does this include the the where the law enforcement parks, that little strip there at the south front so it's gonna be the whole thing?
24:36Yep, it'll be the visitor parking, all of that, and it'll include the whole portion of the front lot.
24:44So this isn't like a roadway where you've got to have issues about the base and all that.
24:50No, there's just gonna take the asphalt off and replace the asphalt.
24:54Yes, we did um, we did some boring in the parking lot to make sure we didn't have any concerns with the base and found that it was in good shape.
25:02So the plan is to just mill the top and be able to put uh a new surface on.
25:07We did choose, however, to go four inches instead of the standard one and a half in hopes that it'll elongate its its life, so we won't have to do this again for a while.
25:18You can you may not have an answer to this, but what is the useful life of something like that?
25:23I I honestly I don't know.
25:24I could I could pull a number, but I I'd have to I'd have to ask somebody who's a little bit more proficient in asphalt.
25:32I just was wondering if it was years or decades or no, I I uh years.
25:37I don't think it would be decades.
25:41Thank you very much.
25:47Can I get a motion for consideration approval of North Parking Lot Repaving Contractor?
25:55There may be an emotion and second.
25:56All those in favor say aye.
25:59Any opposed, say nay.
26:04Uh unanimous uh yes, and that will pass.
26:10Thank you very much.
26:26And our director of capital projects, uh, Matt Duffy will present.
26:30How are you doing, man?
26:32Uh good afternoon, Matt Duffy, director of Capital Projects.
26:36It's recommended that the board of directors authorize the president and CEO to reimburse AES Indiana for utility relocation work on the blue line uh near the intersection of Maryland Street and West Street in an amount not to exceed 284,000.
26:54The blue line has been under construction for almost a year now.
26:58Uh about 40% of the utility relocations are complete on the project.
27:04Uh earlier this year, uh following the change in administration at the state level, there was uh re-engaged efforts uh from stakeholders, particularly the uh state of Indiana's Department of Administration, which owns the park and garage just east of West Street, uh between Maryland and Washington.
27:24There's a figure on the second page of this action item that you can reference here.
27:29Um, as well as the Indianapolis Indians who requested that uh we consider relocating the stations that were planned at West Street uh further to the west at Schumacher Way.
27:40Uh following these discussions, uh we directed the relocations to be paused and construction activity uh to be paused at those those station locations.
27:50Uh just so happened that based on the the schedule, those are the stations that were uh could be uh started construction uh initially by the package B contractor that is building the stations, so they utilities were there and um they were they were planning to start construction there, they would have started by now at those station locations.
28:09Uh IPTC engaged with the Federal Transit Administration, FTA's project development team uh to get their approval uh to relocate the station.
28:17We looked at the uh NEPA, which is uh uh National Environmental Protection Act considerations, and we got that cleared on the project as well.
28:26Um and since then have agreed to modify the station locations from West Street to Schumacher Way.
28:33So the you can see on on the map where the uh previous or or current uh station locations are and where the proposed or revised station locations will be.
28:43Uh before this decision, AES had already started the relocations and had completed the bulk of the work, which makes this now uh reimbursable.
28:52We've reviewed guidelines uh for how the City of Indianapolis Department of Public Works would handle this situation as well as the uh Indiana Department of Transportation.
29:02Uh both of them would uh reimburse uh under this situation.
29:06Funds for the relocation uh will come from the blue line uh contingency budget.
29:11And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.
29:15Any questions from the board comments?
29:18So when we got into the discussions with the state and the baseball team, and we and we decided to pause this.
29:27Didn't somebody just not tell AES?
29:31I mean we took we told them immediately.
29:33Uh unfortunately, they were already doing the work and already had completed some of the work.
29:38So this is before the decision was made, they had started doing the work based on the original.
29:43Because yeah, so the way the way it works is the utility will submit a work plan identifying what the relocation work is and the timeline for that relocation, and they had already started that work.
29:54Okay, I just missed I guess I misunderstood what I was reading.
29:56Now I got another just a quick question because this is very hard for me to see.
30:01Um I tried it expanding it on my tablet.
30:05So I guess the bus is going to come down Maryland and then go, it's gonna have to go back up north, I I guess, isn't it to get to Schumacher way to get to the ballpark?
30:19So in the so if for the downtown area, Maryland and Washington operate in one-way pairs.
30:26Maryland's one-way eastbound, Washington is one way westbound.
30:29And so say if you're coming from the zoo and heading towards downtown eastbound, well, there's still still separate uh station pairs.
30:37Okay, Schumacher, so it won't be a single station, it'll still be on the side of the street.
30:41So if you're heading east, it'll be right on your left.
30:44Right on the ballpark?
30:45Right before the ballpark, yeah, heading and right by uh White River State Park and by the amphitheater.
30:50Uh and then the opposite direction would be on the other side of um of the street um here, uh, which is technically Washington Street.
30:59So that's that's exactly where it splits to be Maryland and Washington to that intersection.
31:04Okay, I can picture that in my mind now.
31:09Any other questions, comments for Matt?
31:14Um can I get a motion for consideration and approval of AES Indiana utility relocation reimbursement?
31:27All those in uh well, there's being a motion in a second, all those in favor say aye.
31:35All those opposed say nay.
31:37That the record reflect unanimous vote.
31:42Thanks, Matt, for that.
31:44And then we go on to you have another one here.
31:47Uh action item A7, that's consideration or approval of a professional services contract for BRT reliability study.
31:57Um, and Matt, would you make that please?
32:00Director of Capital Projects, Matt Duffy.
32:03It's recommended that the board of directors authorize the president and CEO.
32:06Check sea to contract with Parsons Transportation Group for an amount not to exceed $170,000 to perform a BRT reliability study.
32:16As you know, uh there have been two uh BRT projects uh that have opened up over the last six years uh that include a variety of transit priority treatments, uh such as dedicated lanes, transit signal priority level boarding, a pre-board fare collection.
32:32This project's goal is uh to assess the BRT system management uh in order to improve daily operations.
32:40So it's to work with uh Indigo staff to uh develop monitor uh key performance indicators uh to evaluate the system against those KPIs, uh, then look at some improvements uh and then do a before and after study uh to uh compare those KPIs.
32:58And some of those improvements could be uh schedule modifications, um, training adjustments, transit signal priority, uh uh those are those are some examples of things that might be adjusted uh in order to improve the system.
33:11And we're looking at uh reliability during certain times of day.
33:16Are there any um uh increases in speed that we can realize um over the course of the day?
33:21Maybe it's on the weekends, maybe it's um during off-peak hours, but uh have be able to have the data to make those adjustments uh in close coordination uh between uh multiple departments within the agency.
33:34So I'm I'm excited about this study.
33:36Uh and it will come from uh be funded by uh the operating budget uh in 2025.
33:43It includes uh XPE participation totaling 24% from LSM Analytics, North Point Engineering, and uh redemption engineering.
33:51I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.
33:55Any questions, comments or Matt.
34:00Uh if not, can I get a motion for consideration approval of a professional services contract for BRT reliability study?
34:14There being a motion of second, all those in favor say aye.
34:21That the record reflect unimmune is unimmuse unanimous vote move to uh pass.
34:31One more time, Matt.
34:34And this is uh on the uh let's see.
34:42Yeah, approval of a task order with Kimberly Horn and Associates for transit signal priority on the purple line.
34:53Uh Matt Duffy, director of Capital Projects.
35:00It's recommended that the board of directors authorize the president and CEO to execute a new task order with Kimley Horn and associates that includes the implementation of TSP at the specific intersection of Pendleton Pike and Post Road, which is on the purple line for an amount not to exceed 64,000.
35:17Bring the new project total amount to 944,480.
35:23The original task order for the implementation of TSP on the purple line was approved by the board in August 2023.
35:31And the first the second change order was uh in an amount of uh $50,480.
35:39And that was executed in August 2024.
35:43And the reason that this is being brought to you for approval is because the uh sum of the previous task order in this task order exceeds uh the the uh $100,000 amount requiring board approval uh for it.
35:56So this task order is specifically to implement TSP uh at the intersection of Pendleton Pike and Post Road, which we have not yet been able to implement um TSP at along the per on.
36:07This is the only intersection that uh is controlled by the Indiana Department of Transportation.
36:12The rest of the signals are controlled by DPW uh set of Indianapolis.
36:16And so there's the the way that NDOT is using the signal uh is a little bit different than the way the city uses it, and so we had to look at uh alternate means to be able to uh implement priority there.
36:28So there's some investigation and testing and configuration that's required in order to do that.
36:32And the good thing is that uh this is not just the intention here is not just to be utilized as one intersection.
36:38This approach will be used uh for any intersection where indigo traverses that uh is controlled by the state.
36:44So most specifically the blue line where there's about eight to ten intersections where we want to implement priority on the on the east side of the project uh on US 40.
36:55So this solution will be uh replicated uh in future implementations.
37:00It is budgeted uh through the purple line uh project budget.
37:04Uh the DBE goal was five percent on the project.
37:07Um, and although this task order does not have BBE participation, uh the the contract utilization today is 6.3%.
37:15I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.
37:20Any questions, comments?
37:22I just have my own question 67 is kind of competitive, right?
37:28Which is YM dot controls correct.
37:33Well, how much more?
37:35How much will each of those day we the good thing is that the bulk of this cost is in the development and testing here?
37:44So uh this this is not going to be translated to a per intersection cost per future implementation.
37:50So the the bulk of it is figuring out how to do it now and then um much easier to replicate in the future.
38:03Any other questions, comments?
38:06If not, can I get a motion for consideration and approval of a new task order with Kimley and Horn and Associates for transit signal priority on the purple line?
38:20There being a motion and a second.
38:22All those in favor say aye.
38:25Any that are opposed, say nay.
38:28But to reconflect is unanimous vote and passes.
38:34Next we got action item A9.
38:39And uh that's consideration approval of authoration to enter into software renewal with HASTIS by Giro.
38:50And uh our chief of uh operations officer Annette Darrow will make that presentation.
38:57Good afternoon, Annette Darrow, Chief Operations Officer.
39:00And I'm bringing forth the annual um renewal for HASTIS.
39:04It is recommended that the board of directors authorize the president and CEO to enter into one-year contract with Hasis by Giro to provide the required licensing maintenance and cloud hosting and software support in an amount not to exceeding $368,380.
39:20The annual licensing fee is broken out for $202,852 for the licensing and the cloud hosting fee of $165,528.
39:31Uh Indigo has been using HASTIS since 2005 to basically run the operations portion of Indigo and the transportation uh that we see on the street.
39:41Uh we have um moved to the cloud in 2002 when um the key modules that um are integrated into this platform are used for planning the scheduling of the routes, uh operator bidding, uh the daily operations where we manage all the payroll and changes that happen live on the street when we have to cover work when people call off and all that.
40:04It produces our payroll for that.
40:06Um we have to comply with the rules for the collective bargaining agreement, so that's all built into it.
40:12So our comp our payroll is pretty complicated for that area.
40:15It's not just the clock in and out of ADP.
40:18So there's that, and then also everything that we put into Hasdis regarding schedules of the public, the buses, and the operators all get brought into our HASTIS CAD EVL system.
40:32And so we Hasis basically tells the Cat EVL system what it needs to do or what what we're doing when we're driving down the street.
40:39And from there, all that information is pushed out to all of our apps and Google and everybody else, and uh and every piece of data that we track to tell us how we're doing, and also let our customers know how to use our service.
40:53So um I'd be happy to answer any questions about this, but this is what we we come back annually for this one.
41:00So I know you've heard it before, but any questions, comments?
41:09When it talks about the hosting um on the on the cloud in at 165,000, what does that mean?
41:19I mean so we moved to the cloud in 2002.
41:23So basically Giroud does everything for us now.
41:25So before we would have to have staff on site who need to know how to do certain things and functions to maintain it locally, so they do everything for us remotely, plus so they host all the servers and all that, as well as the licensing for the number of users that we have allotted that can actually access the system from anywhere instead of having to be on site or VPN or whatever.
41:48So you can be remote if you need to.
41:50And then and we did that a lot during COVID for different things.
41:59Any other questions?
42:01Uh can I get a motion for consideration and approval of authoration authorization to enter into software renewal with ASDO?
42:15There being a motion and second, all those in favor say aye.
42:20All those opposed, nay.
42:22The record reflect there's a unanimous vote to approve.
42:29Next, action item A 10.
42:32And this is consideration approval of the purchase of 11 40 foot ghill.
42:38EGEN Flex Hybrid Buses for fixed route services.
42:43And uh director of our fleet services, Devon Smith.
42:48Hey, good evening, everyone.
42:49It's Devin Smith, Director of Fleet Services, and sorry for the um a lot of words there.
42:53I'm gonna struggle with the two.
42:55Um so the recommendation, it is recommended that the board of directors authorize the president and chief executive officer to purchase 11 40-foot gillig low floor e-gen flex hybrid buses for fixed route revenue service for total not to exceed cost of 14,436,474, including all associated equipment, services, and a three to 15% contingency for tariffs.
43:20So a little bit of background on this.
43:22Next year, IPTC has projected that we will have about 16 buses aging out of service, so these buses would be there to replace those vehicles.
43:30Um we are still this is a not to exceed cost, so the funds have already been set aside.
43:35We are still waiting for the final gillick quote.
43:37So this number may go down right now with the 11 buses and the estimated cost of 1.1 million dollars, which is pretty close to that 11.
43:47So we may have to back that down to 10 buses depending on what the quote comes back.
43:51There is some good news.
43:52We got off the call with Washington State recently, and Gillig seems to be holding firm on their advocating for a 5% tariff um increase not to exceed, and that has not gone into effect yet, so that may not even um affect these vehicles going forward.
44:07We're still waiting to hear exactly how that fleshes out.
44:10And again, that also ties into how we're gonna be paying for those vehicles, these will then be going through the Washington State contract.
44:17Um the purchase is going to be $8.7 million in MPO funds with a $5.7 million local indigo match.
44:24And because there are no DB goals for this because transit vehicle manufacturers maintain their own programs.
44:30Are there any questions I can answer?
44:34Questions, comments?
44:36Just a point of uh for me, just a point of clarification, Devin.
44:40I think you came before us maybe last month or the month before.
44:44Can you remind me of the difference between the two, or is this just a continuation of the replacement of um of uh fleet?
44:53Yeah, absolutely, ma'am.
44:54This is um so this is more of a just a service continuation project.
45:00The last time I came before you was for two battery electric buses, and that was for a trial program to see how those would operate on our fleet.
45:10And uh when you're talking about the tariffs, uh you said five to fifteen percent.
45:17So this has been a fluctuating situation, and it's goes through Washington State.
45:23Um, those have been the proposed to us by the different OEMs.
45:27Uh Washington Strait is working on an amendment to their contract to kind of lock in those tariffs because there's been a lot of concern.
45:33So currently they're still waiting for new flyer to agree to their that numbers, but Gillag has um agreed to a three percent for diesels and a five percent for all electric and hybrid buses, which this would fall under.
45:48And again, that contract has not been signed, they're waiting for Gillig.
45:52Um, so right now as Washington State would say, right now we shouldn't pay any tariffs on vehicles because they're not in the contract with Washington State through which we are buying.
46:02However, you know, the transit vehicle manufacturers could potentially hold up production if we didn't pay it.
46:08So there is some there's some discrepancy right now that's getting worked out.
46:11But the good news is with Gillig is that they have basically said R will not go over five percent if it even comes into effect.
46:19And and where are these manufactured?
46:24Okay, then explain to me why we're paying tariffs.
46:28Uh because so I believe they are about 70% by uh made in America, so those costs what trickle down to us.
46:35They're that I get a lot of their parts from Canada.
46:42So we're paying the tariff.
46:47Canada's not paying them.
46:53Devin, when we authorize this and we're we're jumping on to that other contract.
47:00When would we anticipate receiving or at least kind of locking in our order and then receiving it?
47:09Yeah, so locking in right now.
47:11Again, we're waiting.
47:12Well, the point of this is we'll encumber the PO because those funds are there.
47:15So and then once we actually get the quote, then we can build that actual the contract and the final PO with the vendor.
47:22Um haven't gotten a firm date from Gilly Get despite repeated attempts to get that information.
47:26However, I do know within the state of Washington contract, as soon as that PO is issued, they have 18 months from issue of the PO to make the delivery of the vehicle.
47:34So we could be looking at these um projected more into 2027.
47:39That's when our battery electric vehicle from Gilligas expected to come in October of 27.
47:43So I would assume similar time frame for these vehicles.
47:48Um, Devin, uh you said in your in the action memo that we were we had 16 buses that are aging out.
47:57And and I I recall, I I think I recall having a conversation where we were looking at maybe extending some buses beyond their useful life to see if we could get if there was if it was worth um doing that, you know, with with with the the with a maintenance cost increase, you know, and you know and right.
48:17So um is that why we're only replacing 10, or is it because we're only replacing 10 because or 11 rather because that's all the money we uh there's two answers to that.
48:27So yes, that is all the money we have, therefore that is all that we're looking to purchase uh 11, maybe 10.
48:33However, we are slightly overstrength right now on our size of our diesel fleet, and we're currently at 167 in the projected size based off of 20% spare ratio is 144.
48:43So it kind of dovetails nicely as we look to slowly bring our fleet size down to get better in line with what the federal uh recommendations are, but obviously do that slowly so we don't create shocks of the service to the maintenance team.
48:55So even though it is monetary dictated, I think it's well within the strategy of where we're trying to put our fleet.
49:05Any other questions, comments for Devin?
49:14Can I get a motion and uh uh for consideration or approval of the purchase of 1140 foot gilling Egen Flex Hybrid buses for fixed route services?
49:29Motion and a second, all those in favor say aye.
49:36Let the record reflect unanimous vote and it's approved.
49:40Thanks a lot, Devin.
49:43Next is uh consideration of approval of contract extension of step CG LLC for revenue service via wireless communications and our chief information officer, Marcus Burnside.
50:01Marcus Burnside, Chief Information Officer for Andy Gum.
50:04And it is recommended that the board of directors authorize the president CEO to approve the two optional years in the contract with Step CG LLC for wireless vehicle communications and amount not exceeding 188,000 for a total contract amount not to exceed 979,677.
50:26IPTC has contracted Step CG since December 2022 for mobile router routers with cellular capabilities for our fleet.
50:38The current contract is expiring, and we are requesting to exercise the two optional years that are within the contract.
50:46IPTC has incurred $791,677 during the initial three years of the contract and is projected to spend 188,000 over the two optional years totaling again $979,677.
51:03And uh finally this project will be funded out of the information technology operating budget.
51:10I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.
51:18Any questions or comments for Marcus?
51:25Can I get a motion for consideration and approval of a contract extension for step CGLLC for revenue service vehicle wireless communications?
51:39All those in have getting a uh being a motion and a second, can all those in favor say aye.
51:49Show the record show that there's no nays, and it passes unanimously.
51:56Action item A12 is consideration approval of a tow service contract with Hannah's record services Inc.
52:04And uh director of preventive maintenance and repairs, Thorino Blade Balday.
52:11Balte, sorry, will present.
52:14My name is uh Chernobyl Day.
52:17Uh I'm here to present action item 12 AI 12.
52:20This is a recommendation for the board to of director to authorize the president and CEO to execute a two-year towing service contract with uh HANA towing, our record INC for in an amount not to exceed 257,800.
52:38For the background, we are upgrading 229 vehicles with all different technology, diesel, uh electric and hybrids.
52:46So to maintain a safe and reliable services, we require a dependent towing provider to uh remove disabled vehicles uh due to mechanical breakdown, accident, and some other type of weather incidents.
53:01So uh our previous contractor was Zor Towen, and uh it didn't declined to extend its option year contract, option year on the contract due to some inflationary uh pressure within the transportation industry in those last years, and as a result, IPTC had to issue a new solicitation for through like an electronic court process.
53:27So based on our uh data, historical data, uh IPTC fleet uh average is approximately one tow a day, and uh HANA service proposed a flat rate for 275 dollars by tow uh for both 40 and 60 footers, regardless of the proportion.
53:48So throughout a competitive procurement process, uh we found uh tow uh HANA towing was uh at the best offer by offering the lowest towing uh cost by vehicle.
54:03So the impact of this will uh this contract will be through the approved uh vehicle maintenance operating budget and uh the DB, there is no DB goal associated with this contract because the DB role entry in final effective October 12, 2025.
54:21All DB must be recertified, and currently there is no recertified DPE uh available.
54:29I'm uh available to answer if you have any questions.
54:33Any questions, comments from the board?
54:37I I assume because you in the information that says that we have a about a tow a day.
54:44Is there a time requirement that from the time it's called in that we need towing that they have to be there?
54:50So we don't have a bus sitting all day waiting.
54:54We have around 45 to one hour and we 45 minutes one hour response time, and we record that as they're doing it.
55:01And we record that as they're doing it.
55:03And how many how many tow trucks do they have that are big enough to accommodate us?
55:09So I don't have the number, but they have a lot of toes for them already right now, and they've been doing the good service for us, you know, biz case by case basic.
55:20My family's been in the trucking business for many, many, many years, and that's always been a contention about giving out contracts like that.
55:27And then they don't show up for five or six hours, and you got a truck sitting there.
55:32Yeah, we've had the truck around.
55:35We know them because sometimes we have to do like case by case basically.
55:39We know uh Hannah have been like uh doing a very good job around.
55:43They have a lot of trucks and high high duty four hour buses and include the articulated buses.
55:50I assume in part of the uh RFP went out, there were requirements to be compliant to that too.
55:56I was assuming that, but I thought I better ask.
56:00We do have a requirement.
56:02Any other questions, comments?
56:06Thank you very much.
56:07All right, thank you.
56:08Uh can I get a motion for consideration and approval of a toast service contract with Hannah's record service?
56:17There being a motion and a second.
56:18All those in favor say aye.
56:25Let the record reflect is unanimous vote to approve.
56:33So next we move to information items.
56:36Uh the first is uh I one, and that's our finance report from our CFO, Mr.
56:44Chairman, this Bart Brown, CFO.
56:47This is our November 2025 financial summary under federal assistance revenue.
56:53Uh, we came in under budget for the month, uh 869,332.
56:57However, for the year, we are over budget 504,660.
57:02Other operating revenue category is under budget for the month, 131,811.
57:08Uh, we are over budget by 4,599,000.
57:12And again, that uh five million of that uh was from DPW for their share blue line cost.
57:19Um, unfortunately, passenger service revenue was under budget by 122,075 for last month and for the year were under budget by 342, 123 dollars.
57:33Uh the PMTF grant that has been received for the year.
57:38Property tax revenue came in on budget for the month of November.
57:42It is over budget for the year, 1,981,000.
57:47And local income tax is on budget for the year.
57:50And then the service, so is the service reimbursement program.
57:54Total revenue for the agency was under budget for the month of November by 1,123,219.
58:01And for the year, we are over budget, six million seven hundred and forty-three thousand seven dollars.
58:06Turning to expenditures under personal services, fringe benefits, we're under budget for the month by 281,342.
58:16In year to date, it is under budget by 4,714,872.
58:22Overtime expenditures were over budget by 76,935.
58:27And I will tell you that's the lowest number I've seen since I've been here since 2019.
58:31So that's a positive trend for the year.
58:34We're over budget one million eight ninety-four.
58:37November salary expenditures are under budget by 350,000 two oh one, and we're under budget for the year, 4,211,276.
58:46Personnel services category under budget for the month, 554,609.
58:52And for the year, we're under budget, 7 million 31,659 dollars.
58:58Other services and charges, claims were over budget by 55,697 for the last month, and then for the year, we are under budget 890,092.
59:12For the month of November, miscellaneous expenditures category is under budget by 29,617.
59:19And I do believe we're having our chair, the finance take a look at the format so we can start including some more detail under that category.
59:29And under budget for the year 344,385.
59:34Uh in November, purchase transportation category over budget by 10,266, and for the year it's over budget 602,736.
59:43And the services expense category was under budget by a million twenty-three thousand year to date under budget by twelve million thirty-one thousand.
59:52And then finally, uh utility expenditures are under budget by ten thousand three hundred and forty-three dollars for ANU for the year utilities under budget, 108,070 twenty-six.
1:00:00And for the year utilities under budget, 108,070 26.
1:00:04Overall other service of charges category was over budget for the month, 997,151.
1:00:11Year to date or under budget, 12,772,000.
1:00:15Finally, materials and supplies, fuel and lubricant category is under budget by 184,118 and year to date under budget by 1,644,000.
1:00:26Maintenance materials category was under budget last month, 333,046.
1:00:30It is over budget for the year 19,928.
1:00:34Other materials and supplies was under budget 76,239.
1:00:42And tools and tires and tubes category under budget for November 12,028.
1:00:47And for the year under budget 3,000.
1:00:52Then for total materials and supplies for November under budget 305,431 and under budget for the year.
1:01:03Overall total expenditures came under budget for November 1,857,191.
1:01:09And year to date expenditures are in the budget 22,636,944.
1:01:14Under non-budget request, there's nothing to report for last month.
1:01:18And just a couple of notes.
1:01:20Next month, and especially for our new board members, we won't report for the expenditures for December next month because we take two months to close out the year.
1:01:32So in February, we'll have a report for December and for the first month of next year.
1:01:38But in January, we have our annual Board of Finance, which we'll report out on our investments.
1:01:44Chairman, that concludes my report.
1:01:45Happy to answer any questions.
1:01:49Any questions on the board?
1:01:55And uh your report will go into the record.
1:01:59Next, we got Matt.
1:02:01I think is Matt up again.
1:02:04This is on uh CASH contribution for 29th 30th Street conversion project.
1:02:09Uh presented by Matt Duffy.
1:02:12Uh Matt Duffy, Director of Capital Projects.
1:02:15Uh back in May 2018, the board executed uh approved execution of an interlocal cooperation agreement with the city of Indianapolis Department of Public Works that largely dictated the terms for the uh financing design operations, maintenance, and construction of the red line, but it also included other uh projects that improve uh indigo service, um local bus stop projects, transit signal priority, uh the downtown superstops projects, which was uh on Delaware Street.
1:02:47That was the first amendment to uh this interlock ICA or interlocal cooperation agreement.
1:02:54And the second uh amendment uh was for the Michigan and New York uh two-way conversion project on the east side that recently finished construction our earlier this fall that was uh led by the uh DPW.
1:03:09Uh this is the third amendment uh which covers uh the 29th and 30th street conversion project.
1:03:16Uh this was uh I should say that this what the cost was included in the original um ICA, uh, but this amendment uh memorializes the cost uh and uh finalizes the terms uh between the agencies for the uh design and construction of the project.
1:03:35So it's similar in scope to uh the two-way conversion project to Michigan and New York, um, just a different location, uh similar goals and intents, and to go operate uh two-way on 30th Street, and all the bus stops along the corridor will be fully ADA compliant and had a chance to uh review that design and and are um pleased with uh that modification.
1:03:57This comes out of the 2026 uh operating budget.
1:04:00Uh that the contribution to the city for this project does.
1:04:04Happy to answer any questions.
1:04:07Any questions for Matt.
1:04:12Thanks a lot, Matt.
1:04:15Uh next is uh our chief legal counsel, Robert Fryan.
1:04:20It's uh annual election of board officers for 2026.
1:04:25Good evening, directors.
1:04:26Bob Fryer, Chief Legal Officer.
1:04:28So uh at its meeting on January 16, 2025, the board updated its bylaws.
1:04:34Um, and per those bylaws, uh, the board is to annually elect from its membership a chair, a vice chair, a secretary, and a treasurer at its regular meeting held in February.
1:04:45Um any board member may self-nominate or nominate another board member for an officer position, and a majority vote is sufficient to elect each off board officer.
1:04:54Um no two board offices shall be held by the same person.
1:05:00And an elected officer serves in an office for one year or until the uh officer's successor is duly elected, unless the officer is removed from office by a majority vote of the board, resigns the office or is no longer a member of the board.
1:05:12So when we updated the ball bylaws, we did not include a detailed election process.
1:05:17Rather, at the time the board sort of left it to me to decide how we were going to do that as you're as your parliamentarian.
1:05:25So I I took a look at a couple of different um officer election processes that are laid out in the Roberts Rules of Order.
1:05:33Um however, I don't think those really work for this board.
1:05:35Um one is floor nominations, and the other is having a nominating committee.
1:05:39We're too small of a body here.
1:05:41There's seven of you.
1:05:42So that seemed a little overkill.
1:05:44So this is not all that different than what you did in the past.
1:05:47I just kind of took took what you did in the past, and and again, this is Robert's rules and kind of modified it.
1:05:52So what I'm proposing with no objections, I and I will say that I did share this with the executive committee, you know, which is Chairman Hahn, uh, Vice Chair Gardner and Treasurer uh Wilson.
1:06:04And I really didn't get any no's from them, so I presume they're okay with it.
1:06:08But so the process would be um I will I'm gonna email that to you after this meeting, sort of a just a nomination form, real simple.
1:06:16I would ask you to send me any nominations you might have by January 9th uh at noon.
1:06:21And the reason for that date is that's the afternoon we finalize your agenda for your January meeting.
1:06:27Um then after January meeting, I'll announce who the nominees are to you, or I'll probably write an information memo like this.
1:06:35Um, and then we'll hold the election at the February meeting.
1:06:38That sort of allows a month, you know, if you all want to talk to each other, do you know, do some campaigning with whatever however you want to handle that.
1:06:47Um, and we'll hold the election at the February meeting.
1:06:49Again, small enough number of votes.
1:06:52I think we could just we could do a ballot, we'll take a short recess, I'll go in the back room, tally them up and come back out and announce the results.
1:07:00So that's what I'm proposing.
1:07:02Um I don't think you have to take any formal note on uh vote on that proposal unless somebody has an objection or you have some other alternative process you would like to propose, but that's what I'm proposing.
1:07:14And that's all I have and try to answer any questions.
1:07:16Oh, I guess one thing I would add, you could nominate a slate, right?
1:07:20Because you can self-nominate, nominate others.
1:07:22There's nothing to prevent you from you know submitting a whole slate if you'd like for consideration.
1:07:27Um I think last year that's what ended up happening.
1:07:30We just had a slate, so there really wasn't much of an election other than just approving the slate.
1:07:34Um obviously, if two members do our nominated for the same position, then we'll have to have a an election.
1:07:52Well, this time that's the end of our agenda, and I'd like to thank uh everyone for attending tonight.
1:07:59Uh also want to thank our staff and our employees uh for a great 2025.
1:08:08Uh it's been a uh very big year with a lot going on, and a significant amount was accomplished with a lot of hard work.
1:08:17Um we we want to thank everyone at Indigo on behalf of myself and and the board for all of your uh efforts.
1:08:26Uh also we'd like to uh uh wish everyone a wonderful holiday season and uh everyone be safe and enjoy this special time of the year.
1:08:38Uh and uh we look forward to 2026.
1:08:42So with that, we're adjourned.