Okay, I guess I'll call the meeting to order.

And um it's 12 uh 34 or so, and we'll go around introduce each other, and I don't have an agenda, but I can tell you what we're gonna talk about, and then we'll talk about anything the uh committee wants to talk about.

So Corey, why don't you start out?

Corey Armstrong, ECA for Matt Carlucci.

Rockman Johnson, District 14.

Good morning or good afternoon, Tyrone Clark Murray, District 9.

And I'm Matt Carlucci, City Councilman at large, group four.

Mike Gay, District 2.

Okay.

So I so uh I called uh the meeting because I have a couple of um uh naming opportunities that I wanted to talk about, but uh being at large, I'm you know I want to respect the district council members involved in these naming opportunities.

Uh and I'm glad that Rockman's here because uh one of those naming opportunities is for uh somebody that that um uh he's very close friends with as you are as well.

Um and um so uh if it's okay I'll start with uh council member Warren Jones.

Is that okay with you?

Since Rockman's here and I I think his time may be short and but um so uh I have um for a long time wanted to uh come up with a naming opportunity for Warren and um and every time I've talked to him about that he shuts me down immediately and so I uh finally told Warren well uh Warren uh uh uh Carla what would you please come sit up here um sorry to interrupt here or some glasses they're probably mine no I really do need those okay no that's all right we thank you I'm so glad because I would have been looking for them if you uh and then you can introduce yourself Carla Carla Shell, Office of General Counsel.

Okay, um and so uh so finally I told Warren I said well you know what um a very wise gentleman uh told me one time that it's not necessarily a bad thing to pin a rose on the lapel of somebody while they're still living and um and uh and I'll tell you an interesting story the the reason that uh the law says that you're um uh not supposed to to um uh name uh something after uh a building or or a park whatever after somebody while they're still alive uh well that was my dear old dad's ordinance that he introduced uh he was on the first consolidated council and um and they were taking up the problem of uh certain parks or buildings that had been named after uh some of the pre-consolidated city commissioners or city council members who were at that point uh occupying a seat in a prison or jail okay and I won't say who their names were because I don't think I need to do that but I could but I won't and so the temperature at the time was such that you know it it it was the right thing to do but that law has is stuck and is held on and um and it probably is a good law to keep on the books but I don't think there's anything wrong in occasionally waiv that um and at one point I was trying to to name uh the chambers after uh my dear friend uh Tommy Hazuri and and I won't go into what happened there but it it didn't work out like I had hoped it would but um but will Williams our um our dear friend in public works uh and I were talking and uh frankly I was uh in tears which I don't like people to see me in tears but I was telling him about what had happened and he said councilman there's never anything wrong with pinning a rose on the lapel of a good person while they're still living I'll never forget him telling me that so I don't know if y'all remember but when I gave him a uh a resolution honoring the work he did after all the trash problems we had uh I brought a rose and I pinned it on his lapel that night um so um I I I would like to pin a rose on Warren's lapel so I worked with uh uh Darrell Joseph I thought maybe Darrell would be here but he's not anybody here from the recreation department uh don't see anybody so I um uh worked with um with um darry joseph and every park I found was named after somebody you know so uh he mentioned um woodland acres park and so my way of thinking is woodland acres has been

Anybody here from the recreation department uh don't see anybody.

So I um uh worked with um with um Darryl Joseph, and every park I found was named after somebody, you know.

So uh he mentioned um Woodland Acres Park.

And so my way of thinking is Woodland Acres has been known as Woodland Academ Woodland Acres Park for so long, it it might be best to leave Woodland Acres still in the name, but perhaps to name it uh Warren Jones Woodland Acres Park or Woodland Acres Warren Jones Park, I'm not sure which would be best.

I would probably lean on Daryl uh Joseph for that.

But um, and of course I'll also learn a long time ago you'd never um attempt to pick out a name of of something unless you run it by the person in the family themselves.

So I uh called Warren and I pinned him down uh because I had another idea, which uh might be something we could also pursue uh at some point.

Uh but um and I gave him the choice between the two and uh and uh uh he he he said Woodland Acres, I guess, and Vanessa in the background said, Yes, Vanessa, yes, Woodland Acres Park.

So it's funny to listen to them play off each other.

Uh so that was my idea, but uh but I haven't said anything about it because I wanted to uh talk with you about that uh council member.

So I'm leaving it that so I've I've laid it out there and I'd like to hear what my colleagues have to say.

And then I'd like for Carla to uh or uh Miss Schill to explain you know what is entail in doing that.

Okay, well thank you um council member and past president Matt Carlucci um for hosting this meeting.

My I mean it obviously obviously um the honorable Warren Jones is worthy of having um any park or structure named after him because of the work he's done not only with city council but on the school board as well, and basically he's a a servant to the city.

Um my my first question is Woodland Acres, where is Woodland Acres located?

Because I I typically know the names of the parks that are in my district, and I don't think it's a district nine park.

Could be wrong, but I don't think it is.

So where is Woodland Acres located uh Corey see you can find exactly where that is.

I I hope I've I hope I've got Woodland Acres right.

Um I'm thinking Woodland Acres.

Oh no, no, well what are you thinking about you thinking of the thinking about Woodstock?

Because Woodstock is in district.

I think it's Woodstock Park.

I think it's Woodstock Park.

I I apologize it it it I it's been you know about a month and a half ago that I was talking to him about that, and the memory sometimes gets lapsed.

Yes, sir.

I understand.

Okay, so now that does make a little more.

Okay, thanks.

No, but I I keep saying woodland.

I I think it's woodland.

I'm gonna go with it.

Okay, so and I don't know um if we've have you done any research on Woodstock Park and the name of Woodstock, whether it has any historical significance, um Corey.

Uh Carla, I believe uh did some research on if it's a historical park, if it has to go through any of those um those outcomes, but I didn't do any research as far as the history of the park.

Um so no, this is the first time hearing of this request.

We had talked about an a different renaming request.

So no, this is all um brand new to me.

But um chapter 122 of our code does outline the process for renaming and it includes the requirement that the historic preservation section of the planning department produce a report within 30 days that addresses a number of things, including like the history of the naming, the history of the park, that kind of thing.

I think that Daryl Joseph uh verified that it could be uh named uh after Warren that that Woodstock was not a name of a person.

We we thought about Hammond Park, and then we found out that Hammond was a uh Joe Hammond who had been a commissioner for like 57 years or something, you know.

Uh so that ruled that one out.

Uh but uh anyway.

So um without having done the research, I just and not really thinking about this particular aspect uh or issue um uh ahead of time.

I do have a park in my district that is called West Side Park.

So and West Side Park, you know, it just indicates a section of town, not necessarily references a person.