Good afternoon, everyone.

Welcome to the Monday, April 20th, 2026, 2 p.m.

Rules Committee meeting.

We'll get started with Mr.

Dennis with the introductions, please.

Good afternoon, Garrett Dennis administration.

Colleen Hamsey, Council Research.

Carla Schell, Office of General Counsel.

Trista Carihur, Council Auditor's Office.

Randy White, District 12.

Terrence Freeman at large, group one.

Chris Miller at large group five.

On Salem Group Two at large.

Mike Gay, District Two.

And last but not least, Councilman Michael Boylan, District Six.

All righty.

Thank you.

I see we do have a couple public comment cards.

Is there another one there or no?

Okay.

We have I'm not sure.

We have excuse me.

Okay, we have two people here actually who wish to speak.

We'll start out with Latavia Harris, please, followed by Lisa Manners, I believe.

Miss Harris.

Okay, we'll start with Miss Manners, I believe it is.

Lisa Maners.

Yeah, if you would please, ma'am, um state your name and address for the for the record, please.

Yes, my name is my name is Lisa Manners.

I reside at 1230 East, 7th Street, apartment 20.

I'm an East Side resident.

Okay, thank you.

Please go ahead.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Um I um have a lot of concerns that's going on in out there in our apartment.

I spoke with Mr.

Jameis and Rudy Jameson about uh a month after they completed the renovation out there, but half of the apartments are still not renovated yet.

We still have the um condition of the mole mice.

Um some of our apartments has not been done yet.

Um want to know, you know, when are we gonna get our apartment?

Because I'm one of the ones that spoke a couple of years ago about the situation about the mill dune um when it first came about with the one they call the news and talked to you know a couple of news media about the situation, but we have not some of the old part, the old units, we have not got our apartment fixed yet.

And want to know, you know, are we gonna get our apartment fixed with the funds they had received?

Um that was enough to have our apartment seats.

They told the news we was gonna be the first ones to um get our apartment fixed, but we have not seen uh um got our apartment done at all, and we still, like I say, living with um mole mice, um, still is uh situation.

Well, even though they renovated some of the units um at first and 7th Street apartment, but it's still a problem with the mole um and the mice.

And like I said, I'm one of the old tenants that have not had the apartment done as of yet.

Okay, thank you.

Um anything else to share.

Um I just want to know are we gonna get our apartment fixed?

Because we was the first one there.

Do you know who your council member is, ma'am?

Um, no, I do not.

Yeah, I think it is Jimmy Peluso.

Jimmy okay, we'll I'll make sure he gets your information.

Okay.

Yes, because that's important to us as well to have our unit um because City is getting done, because we were the first ones, you know, in there, but they put in new people over us.

Okay, thank you, ma'am.

I'll I'll make sure Councilmember Peluso gets your information.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Next is is Ms.

Harris back in Latavia Harris.

Okay, we'll we'll there is one more that's just come in.

Uh Mr.

Dennis Sanchez.

I see he's here.

If you would uh come up, please.

Please.

Uh please state your name and your address for the record, please.

My name is Dennis Sanchez, and my address is on file.

And this would be, I guess, our second time coming in regarding the with the Together East Coalition Incorporated.

We came here last with the last meeting discussing the discrepancies and the issues with the process of uh choosing the board members.

So that's where we're here again.

We were, I guess in the last meeting, we had some representatives that said that it's important to, I guess, take a look at how the process was done to make sure that the community was involved instead of it just being a hand picking type of situation, which is what it seems what was done.

So we're hoping that together we're our team is here again to make sure that at least we could coordinate and work together with uh the rules committee to make sure that this is a community engaged type of uh situation, considering that we've been following this since back with the ordinance days, and we know how tiresome that was.

So we're just hoping to work together with you guys to make sure that this gets done.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next is Mr.

James Matchett, please.

James Matchett address on file.

Uh good evening.

This has been tough because it makes it seem like it's just a group of people fighting, can't get along.

And that's nothing could be farther from the truth.

Um we're fighting for the community.

We're not fighting particularly against anybody, we're fighting for the community.

We're fighting for their voice for their opportunity to speak out and to be involved in this process and reshaping their community.

We were led to believe that these anomali these nominations was gonna cover that, was gonna allow community people to have a voice.

I said from the beginning, transparency, accountability, and community involvement is what I was fighting for.

I don't really have a dog in this fight.

I'm not an east sider.

But I see the wrongs that was done here.

I sat in the rooms, I've been a part of the conversations, and what we came up with a breach of contract, uh a breach of confidence.

Um we gave up that fight.

We simply tried to tell you about these people that they want to put in charge.

All the allegations that we was made, that was for your benefit to do your research.

We made the allegation.

I gave documents to support it.

Every one of you got an email from me as to how they were conducting their business.

All we wanted was somebody else outside of us to look at it and see what we saw.

We wasn't trying to besmirch nobody, we wasn't trying to engage in a battle with any one entity.

It was about what was gonna be best for the community.

I hope by now I have earned the credibility to say that I want to do what is right, I want to do what is fair, and I want to do what is in the best interest of the community.

None of this is about a personal vendetta as some people framed it.

The mere fact that this other entity went on PR work instead of simply sitting down with the community and say, how can we make this better?

Should tell you all you need to know about this opposing group.

They rather tell small lies about incomplete projects than to tell the truth and say how can we solve this problem?

I don't come in here looking for confrontation.

I come in here looking for collaboration.

How can I help make people life better?

Not miserable, not fighting just because the sake of fighting, but fighting what is right for the community.

So as you go forward with these nominations, please hear what we're saying.

They are good people, they're just not right people for the east side.

Thank you, sir.

Is Ms.

Harris here?

Okay.

You're you're next.

Well, um, I didn't know.

Yes, sir.

If you uh Latavia Harris address on file.

Thank you.

Um, I'm coming to you guys today in reference to the appointees.

First, we're gonna start with Dr.

Rudy Jameson.

Uh, I wasn't here when Lisa had a chance to speak, but I actually have the sign-in sheet where he took these girls to lunch, sat with them, told them he was gonna correct their living conditions, which still haven't been corrected.

You know, we still have the same issue, did nothing about it.

Close to a year past, even after talking to the apartment manager, which is Miss Suzanne Pickett, the case manager for the apartments who's also affiliated with Lyft Jacks, nothing was done.

James Matt had to come along, go up the stream to get code enforcement to come wrong.

Some you know, a whole bunch of citations, you know, just like Peluso told us he was going to have it fixed, it's not.

So I understand that he works with some of you guys, and that's fine.

But your character is the things you're looking doing when nobody else is paying you any attention.

So the fact that you left those children and those women in that condition and you're the director of human rights, I have an issue with that.

Next of all, you have Mr.

Cleve Warren.

When we say people in the community, we're talking about we understand the business professionals.

We don't need a bunch of professional board members.

Cleve Warren sits on the same boards as Travis Williams.

He's also on the board for fams, which is affiliated and associated with Lyft Jacks.

So when it comes to these type of things, these are the type of things we wanted this to be was community led.

We have a bunch of no disrespect, no at all.

Everybody who thinks they know and done everything sitting on this board, but you have to have the lived experience.

Please keep in mind, Mr.

Warren was also on the original 501c3.

So all they did was pass them through.

When I had a chance to speak with someone in the mayor's office, he explained to me some of these applications was just handed over.

They didn't even go through the same process.

The process was to get online, do your application, submit your resume, not use your bases and your friendships to walk in the door and say, hey, I want to be on the board.

You know, that's not how this shit worked.

Everybody should have their fair chance.

Everybody shouldn't be able to sign their name and do the same thing.

Um, Miss Kim Black.

Yes, she lives in her daughter's house in the community, but you don't affiliate yourself with the community.

And I understand we're doing a whole lot of lift jacks, but these developers are getting beyond themselves because again, it's the checks and balances.

They're making the framework for what we're setting this board to be.

And that's why we fought for this to have your everyday people are people who engage in the community, be on this board, and your models are like your Larry Schrank, Mr.

James Edwards, who I spoke with people in the 21st community, and they agree with him being on the board.

Thank you, ma'am.

Yes, sir.

And the last person to speak is Ms.

Kay Prior, please.

Oh, Kim Pryor.

Excuse me, Kim Pryor.

Sorry, I didn't realize my handwriting was that bad.

I think it's my eyesight.

Yeah, please state your name and address for the record.

Yep, thank you.

My name is Kim Pryor.

I live at 245 West Fifth Street.

And I'm here as other members have already spoken to encourage you to rethink some of the board appointments to the CBA.

There are a couple of them that um that I personally think are good.

Um I don't recall their names, but the there's one that owns the Berman Brothers scrapyard.

They've been in the neighborhood for years, and so they are, you know, she is one that I believe would be a good candidate for the board.

She's had a significant economic interest in the neighborhood for decades.

Um there's another gentleman, and again, I'm sorry, I was rushing to get here, but um, who has also been in the neighborhood for a long time, but there are others who don't live in the neighborhoods, they don't have a significant business interest in the neighborhood.

And what is a significant business interest?

That is not really defined in the ordinance, and you know, someone that has just come in and set up a business two years ago, is that significant?

Or is five years significant, or is 20 years significant?

What is significant?

We need people that are gonna sit on this board that are in tune with the residents of the neighborhood.

The people who live there, who walk the streets there, who possibly work there, they're the ones that know best what our east needs.

And so I don't know if we just didn't do a good job of putting it out there that hey, we've got these board positions available, and maybe we didn't get a good job of describing what type of qualifications that that person should have.

I don't know what it is, but it didn't seem to me that you had very many applicants.

And when I put in a public records request for copies of everything that was sent in, including the application that was filled out, the only thing returned to me were the resumes.

Did those people fill out the applications?

Because if they did, I didn't get what I asked for in the public records request.

So again, it's this is so very important.

And I know a lot of you have seen me as well as other folks that have spoken up.

We you've seen us here for months talking about how very important this is.

Just do some more check-in.

Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am.

We're now going to go to our agenda, but before we do that, um, we had a presentation, ADA presentation by Teresa Eichner.

Um, however, I just wanted to ask is there anything new from the neighborhoods time when you gave your presentation this morning?

Because I I will tell you the only person who wasn't there was Council past President Freeman, and he said he watched and listened to your presentation.

So I just I want to give you opportunity if there's something more you wanted to say or want something you wanted to add.

No, Teresa Eichner, City Council, there's nothing additional, same presentation.

I don't know, or if there's you know, a members, I I kind of ask over here, but I didn't ask over this way.

If there's something you think we need she needs to cover for for others, uh yeah, please go ahead.

I just worry that members of the public may have watched neighborhoods but are not or are now watching rules for the first time.

And I think we have an obligation to for Teresa, it's very brief.

I mean, it's not very long, but I wouldn't want the public to get short changed because she didn't give the presentation here.

Okay, that's fair.

Please go ahead.

I mean, it's a it's a good point.

I just uh just didn't want to want you to have to give it twice uh if we had all heard it.

Um but that's a good point.

So please go ahead.

Thank you through the chair to the committee.

I get I get three more bites of this apple, so I appreciate that.

So uh as part of an ongoing um uh lesson in uh ADA requirements, the Department of Justice Um gave us an additional year, so there is a little bit of new information that I'll share with this committee that we didn't have earlier.

Um but we're gonna continue on um to meet that deadline that was this Friday.

Um so as part of that Wednesday of this week, we will be taking down our legislative gateway um from our website so that um legislation and the exhibits attached to that um will need to be records requested for members of the public.

Um that is gonna be um down for four to s four to six weeks.

Um we expect over that time that we'll be able to get those documents not remediated but um in a in a um uh portions of that's uh with our vendor archived so that it will once it comes back up, we'll be um compliant with the new regulations coming from the uh Department of Justice, and we will have a vendor in place that I'm working with the IT um department on so that um screen readers will find those documents and and um when they click on them will um open them in a compliant manner, and so the portions of the uh website that we control internally now are compliant.

There are a couple of pages and links that we're finishing today and tomorrow.

Um but for the most part our uh website, council's website is compliant, um, but that legislative services, legislative gateway that you see on our website will come down likely Wednesday morning internally for staff, we'll have a username and password where they will be able to access that.

Um, but the most significant challenge that I find um will be with our public having to request that legislation and any exhibits attached to that agendas and minutes will be available on the website.

Thank you very much for the update.

Um when do you believe then things will be back up to um you know the level for everyone's use?

I said four to six weeks.

I'm giving myself a little leeway in there.

I'm hoping I'll get it up sooner than that.

Okay, thank you.

And we have one person in the queue that's council member Amaro, please.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh just two quick questions for uh Ms.

Teresa.

Um you said the documents are going down, or the legislative gateway is going down on Wednesday, and I thought I heard you say at the same time there will be some access internally for staff.

Does that include us as well if we wanted to uh look at certain uh it does?

So all council staff, ECAs, department staff.

I'm gonna circulate an um uh a kind of an SOP for how to access that auditors, OGC, a bunch of us internally use that kind of for research and other air and and other reasons, right?

And so I'll be in I'll be providing that information so that everybody can access that.

Um thank you.

Uh the second question through the chair.

Um out of curiosity, what makes these uh documents ADA compliant?

Uh so that when um someone with a disability, either blind or otherwise, uses a device to read those documents, it can read it on their behalf and and in an order and picks up all of the um alternative text for pictures and those kinds of things.

So we have documents, for instance, land use and zoning has surveys, pictures of property, those kinds of things.

And if the information behind that is not available, it will not read that information to someone with a disability who's trying to access the information.

Thank you.

Um Pastor President Salem, would you like to comment?

Okay.

No, that's good information there.

Thank you for the question.

Actually, um I think that that helped give a little more insight into what's what's transpiring here, and thank you for all your efforts.

Anyone else?

All right, thank you very much.

Thanks.

We'll next go to the order of agenda items, the extra uh two-pager that was given out, and we'll go over the appointments, and uh we will we will start on page four.

And uh I'll turn turn there myself.

Page four, item number seven.

On the amendment, uh Ms.

Kerher, would you please explain the amendment?

Through the chairs of the committee, the amendment will remove the emergency language from the bill.

Um, in fact, I I should have stated the actual bill uh 2026 0206.

Um thank you for that.

Um I have a let's see.

We have any any comments on the amendment.

If if not, all those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

We have motion and second on the bill is amended.

No one in the queue.

Um we would I guess is Mr.

Is Mr.

Mashney here?

Um Cody.

Yeah, if you would please come up.

If you'd state your name and address for the record, please, and then tell us a little bit about why you believe this is uh a good fit for you to be on this five points dependent special uh district board of supervisors.

I'm Cody Mashney, um 3342 Rosel Street is my address.

Uh I've had the opportunity to be the general manager at Bertie's Bar and Five Point Slicker Lounge for the last several years.

Uh and now find myself in a position as director of beverage operations for those bars and uh Hoptanger in Five Points as well.

Uh I've been uh intricate part of the community for all of that time, uh attending meetings at the uh Five Points Merchants Association.

Uh I've been vocal about increasing security and beautification efforts in the neighborhood and um and have operated heavily with uh JSO as well uh to kind of make sure that we're getting the support that we need in the neighborhood.

Um super excited about the business improvement district.

Uh very thankful to the mayor for the appointment.

Uh and I believe that we can make five points uh a really great place to to live and to visit for years to come.

Okay, great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

See no one else in no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yay, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0206 as amended.

We'll now now go to page six, item number 10, 2026 0221.

Uh may I have a motion on the amendment?

I have a motion second on the amendment.

Uh Ms.

Kaher, could you please explain the amendment?

Yes, through the chair to the committee.

The amendment will strike the appointment for the first full term ending June 30th, 2023, and instead it will just be for the partial term ending June 30th, 2027.

We'll add a waiver of the requirement in code section 5102 that the appointment maintains a substantial business or philanthropic interest in Duval County.

You may recall at the last rules committee meeting, uh, this was discussed and it was determined that the appointee did not meet those requirements.

So we'll add that waiver.

Also, lastly, we'll correct a code section reference within the bill.

Thank you very much.

Um is Ms.

Nasworth here.

Uh yes.

Hi, Shannon Nasworth, address on file.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh would you please share with us a little bit about why you believe this is uh the right fit for you to be um on the JHFA?

Absolutely.

So I'm I'm several of you are familiar with me.

I retired at the end of last year as the CEO of Ability Housing, an affordable housing developer that works around the state that is headquartered here in Jacksonville.

I have spent well over 30 years of my life of advancing affordable housing, first with Habitat for Humanity and then through Ability Housing, been actively involved with the city of Jacksonville.

It's myriad of special committees on homelessness and affordable housing over the years, been very active on other commissions and special committees, both for the council and the mayor's office over the years.

While I have retired from ability housing, I did spend again over 30 years working diligently in Jacksonville on this topic.

I think my experience with the technicalities of the decisions JHFA has to make will help.

Um I won't have as high of a learning curve, but I also bring a lot of knowledge about the broad scope of need in the city, and I'm really looking forward to helping the JHFA help the city meet its needs to with regards to affordable housing.

Okay.

Thank you.

We'll we'll first go to Past President Freeman, please.

Oh, it's not.

I'm sorry.

Oh, and anybody first have questions um for Ms.

Nasworth.

You do?

Okay, we'll go to uh past President Salem, please.

Thank you, Chair.

I had the pleasure of working with Ms.

Nasworth when she was at Ability Housing.

She's terrific, had a great uh knowledge base of the realities of homelessness and what can be done in that sphere.

And I think I'm just excited you've come out of retirement to serve this community, and you'll do great.

Thank you very much, Chair.

Thank you.

Yes, uh I've got things a little bit out of order here.

Um sorry about that.

Let's uh want to vote on the amendment uh before we go forward.

Um all those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

Uh motion second on the bill as amended.

Um we'll go let's see.

Do you have any questions?

Uh Councilman Boilin for Ms.

Nasr.

Okay, yes, please.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just first of all, could could I be added as a co-sponsor, please?

Uh and Shannon, I just echo everything that Councilman Salem said.

You're well versed in this.

As you said, you've got a leg up in the conversation.

I think you're gonna be a great asset to this entity.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Okay, we'll um go next to uh councilmember Amaru.

You're recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um I just want to uh do a ditto on what's already been stated.

Uh uh know to work of Shannon and what she's done over the years at Ability Housing, and I think uh the knowledge and wisdom that you will bring to this capacity will also help to increase and address the concerns about affordable housing.

And so uh thank you for stepping forward and and having a desire to continue serving uh this community.

Thank you very much.

We'll next to pass President Freeman, please.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chairman's Nasworth.

Um I'm good.

Thank you so much for your service and putting yourself forward.

Just a few comments to the body.

You don't have to stand up there anymore.

You're fine.

Thank you very much.

And I've met with Ms.

Nasworthy, been on uh calling Nasworth.

I'm sorry, not Nasworthy, Ms.

Nasworth.

Um been over there, been through many things from my last 10 years on here.

Never a doubt about her experience, never a doubt about the value she would bring this board.

So I wanted to make sure I wanted others to give her her praise and her roses uh while she could smell it because I do agree with them.

However, yet again, I'm putting in a situation where my principals are going to have to rise above all of the compliments.

Uh we had a young lady that was from ROC, what's the name of the group, Rock something, um had significant black they had significant interest businesses in downtown, but she resided in the Latua.

And I met with her and had to share with her that I would not be supporting her.

Uh and then I passed legislation that removed that portion of the code.

Well, when I asked, is this something a scenario I could do it here?

They said it's a slippery slope.

Because this is for all boards and commissions.

That was solely for DIA the first time.

So now this is for all boards and commissions.

And so waiving codes, doing those things, that's fine.

I'm gonna stay principled.

I voted against another person that was phenomenal.

Um, and here's another one that is, and I'm grateful that you all are supporting her, uh, but I will not be for that reason said.

Thank you.

No one else in the queue.

I I will make one comment.

I mean, there's no no doubt that Ms.

Nasworth is beyond qualified uh to do a great job here.

I guess the question does always come to when we have to grant a waiver, uh, in this case, uh believe it would be a two-part waiver.

Um, you know, then it must be an exceptional situation in my mind uh to to make that exception and hopefully we we take that seriously going forward to to grant what is in effect uh a double waiver or a residency waiver, but also the business interest, even though there recently just was uh that recently was the case.

Uh but in this case, I I will say I'm I'm going to support this because of the years of um experience, direct experience, and it was very recent.

And so for me, um I I'm get where Past President uh Freeman is coming from, and and uh and I'm in that same place, uh, but in this in this case, I am willing to um entertain the exception, um the waiver, if you will, and um and support uh this appointment.

So no one else in the queue, please open the bot and record your vote.

Five years, two nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0221 as amended.

We'll next go to page eight, item number 15, 2026 0236.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Um is uh Chief Stronko here?

Yes, please come forward.

If you would please state your name and uh address for the record.

Good afternoon, members of council.

Uh it's uh acting chief uh JD Stronko, um 23-year employee of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

Okay.

And um Yeah, it's probably on file, right?

Address on file.

Yes, I believe in your situation.

Yes, sir.

Yes, thank you.

And if you just tell us a little bit about yourself, uh same same kind of thing, even though it's a different type of uh situation here, but just gives everybody a good feel for your qualifications.

Yes, sir, absolutely.

Um served in uh multiple areas of agency.

Is anybody with my time on wood, but some of the more notable positions were the commander of the homicide unit.

Uh after that, I was appointed under Sheriff Williams to the assistant chief of what was then zone five.

That's now district five.

Uh after that, under Sheriff Waters, I was appointed to the commander of the major case section over style homicide, robbery violent crime, special assault unit uh until my recent appointment to the chief of the patrol support division.

All right.

Thank you very much.

We have uh past president white in the queue.

Uh you recognize her.

Yes, sir.

Through the chair.

Please add me as a co-sponsor.

Um we have both uh past president white, past president Freeman would like to be added co-sponsor also past President Salem.

Anyone else?

Um Councilmember Amara and Gay.

We're almost going down the line.

I think I was I think I was already added, so um we have we have the full committee uh being added, please.

Okay.

Please open the bound and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero and nays.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0236.

Thanks, Chief.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, gentlemen.

We'll next go to page nine, item number seventeen twenty twenty-six zero two three nine.

We have a motion second on the bill.

Um is Ms.

Stoddard here, please.

If you would please come forward.

If you would uh please state your name and address for the for the record, please.

Yes, sir.

Through the chair, my name is Rochelle Stoddard.

Forgive me up nervous.

I've never done this before.

It's okay.

Uh my address is 1346 Homesdale Road.

Okay.

And would you please just tell us a little bit about yourself and why you believe uh being on the East Side Grants Committee is a is a good and proper fit for you.

I am the third generation owner and operator of an 81-year-old scrapyard and metal recycling facility in um on Evergreen Avenue.

My family has been in the neighborhood since 1933, both living and working.

And um I recognize that this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to preserve the culture and help the residents of this the communities maintain their legacy.

Okay, thank you, ma'am.

Um, we have past president Freeman in the queue.

You're recognized.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Through the chair to Miss Starter, thank you so much for coming.

Um, you say you have a a business in it.

Is it in the district or does it abut the district?

We're in we're above.

We're the we're neighbor on uh in the Phoenix area at neighborhood.

Okay, so you're near that.

Thank you so much for that.

And through the chair to uh Miss Shell, when we're looking at codes, is this yet again a scenario where we're gonna have to potentially waive a code or I know I believe I believe that there's ambiguity in the language of how this committee is written, where it is kind of an if or shall as opposed to may.

Uh, but can you help me understand when we say business interest if they're not in it and they're across the street from it?

How is that a business interest?

Sure.

Through the chair to council member Freeman and the committee.

So I think you're thinking of a different bill.

Um where you're going with that.

But the language in the code is that um to the extent feasible appointees shall either reside in or have a substantial business or philanthropic interest in the neighborhood.

And my understanding is this appointee um does her business is within the boundary of the east side community.

Perfect, and and just heated up for something later.

Um, and so I think where I'm at with this, and and I may be the only one sitting up here, but many times we hear the voice of the people, we don't hear the voices of the people, and now we've repeatedly you can have a seat, ma'am.

Thank you so much for coming started.

Thank you so much for putting yourself forward as well.

Thank you, ma'am.

Um we hear the voices of people coming, and now this is one of the first times where there's a um there's a divide, and a divide is not between us, and the divide is not our a Republican or a Democrat issue.

This is a people who are of the community and from the community, and then a board that we're being asked to form that's going to oversee that said community.

Um, I'm not in a place where I want to take a vote on anybody right now until I fully understand the how we're getting here, and that's even on our picks.

I'm not saying this is just the picks from the other side until I fully understand, and I've actually signed on as a co-sponsor somehow for one of them because I think they're amazing people, just like I did for Miss Nasworth with who was here earlier.

But there's a conflict going on here, and I don't understand why.

So I'm gonna hold here and see what the rest of you all say about it.

I hate to vote against good people, but I I see people here that have been here consistently, and I haven't seen anyone put up from that group yet.

And I'd be interested in to see you understand why.

Thank you.

And I just go to council member Boylan, please.

You're recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

At the last meeting, I suggest we hear from the administration as well as the council president as to the rationale or criteria they use to identify their nominees.

And so I'm going to turn to Mr.

Dennis and I asked Ms.

Norris this morning to be for you to be prepared to speak to the rationale why each of the appointments that the administration has made has picked those persons.

I do have a Christian question from Ms.

Stoddard, why don't you get finished?

Through the chair uh to Councilman Bowlin or to the entire uh committee.

Um the first thing we did, of course, was look at um the legislation.

Um and one of the things that the mayor was committed of nominating uh individuals who actually live in uh the east side boundary.

Uh there's definitely a difference, and we've and we've heard and the the mayor has heard over and over and over, there's a difference between uh an eight to five out east and a after five out east.

And so uh her stance was to find um individuals who actually lived out there.

Now, Ms.

Stotter is our uh nominee, um, but her family's business has been there, like she said, 81 years.

Uh and so she's the only outlier of our four appointees.

Um as you'll see um uh over the next couple weeks, our four appointees, uh one uh that I think uh uh chairman that we emailed the chairman today is gonna be withdrawn because of conflict.

Um but the other two appointees, they actually live and reside uh in the out east boundary based upon uh the legislation requirements.

So uh so again uh the mayor's you know her number one thing is to have individuals who actually live and reside uh on the east side based on the uh criteria in the um in the legislation.

Thank you.

Yes, please.

Ms.

Starter, would you mind coming back up for a minute, please?

You know, uh as a longtime member of a nonprofit who often sought out money, I can tell you for a fact it's a hot lot harder to give out money than to get money.

Uh do you have any experience in the grant making process setting uh one of the biggest challenges this uh committee is gonna have is setting the criterion.

There's an awful lot of legwork this committee is gonna have to do in order to set the table and be prepared to provide credible criteria in order for people to know what they're looking for or what they're gonna be asking for and why they qualify for it.

Uh do you have any experience with that kind of critical creation, if you will?

Not specifically in grant writing.

Sure.

But I do have 15 years of hard decision making as um both a general board member and an executive board member on a nonprofit.

I was the uh board chair during COVID and had to make some unpopular decisions at that time.

So I believe that gives me board experience that might be a perfect fit for this opportunity.

I appreciate your answer.

Thank you very much.

And I just I'm making the point uh for all of us concerned in this process.

Sometimes you need some subject matter experts, people who have the ability to understand what it takes to create you know the criteria for grants and who qualifies for it and who doesn't in that process.

And the difficult challenges you know and saying no to entities and say you don't meet the standard that we have set in order to you know be awarded funding through this process.

We need to make sure living inside or outside to me is important, no doubt about it, some balance in that process.

Well, I think we do need to have some subject matter experts, and that's why I asked the question with respect to your ability to understand how the nonprofit sector works and the difficult challenges that you and others will have in setting the criteria and the standards for the awarding of grants through this process.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

We'll go next to pass President Salem, please.

You're recognized.

Thank you, Chair.

First of all, Ms.

Starter will be an excellent choice.

I spent uh half hour talking to her, and I I think she's terrific.

The other point I'm gonna make, and I may disappoint some of my friends up here on the left.

I was on the committee that worked months to get this legislation to the point to where we could have appointments.

And we went from the opioid model to the uh but uh with the public service grant model.

I was very much a lone ranger with the opioid model, but finally at the end we got it passed after months of debate.

And I'm just concerned about the time that we are sitting here now.

We're getting to the end of this budget year and not in the not too distant future, and we don't even have a board in place.

And I I would not have made all the appointments, whether that be by the mayor or by the council president.

It was their prerogative.

They picked four people apiece.

And I it's it's and this may be distasteful to some of my friends out here, but I think we need to move forward and and accept these appointments, and I've encouraged those that might be disappointed in some of the appointments to attend the meetings, have input just like you are today, and be a part of the process.

But I think to start this process over and look at other appointments.

We're another two or three months down the road.

And so Mr.

Dennis, um, I don't agree with all the the mayor's appointments, but at this point, we have got to bite this bullet and move forward.

So I would I will I'm gonna vote for all of them.

Just because I want this process to start.

Forty million dollars in seven years.

There's I think four million dollars in this year that we're sitting on, and now we're about ready to add another four to six million for next year.

And it's and nothing's happening.

So I hear uh councilmember freemas.

I I don't disagree with you, but I I just feel like the the better approach now is just to approve them all, move forward, and uh they serve a certain period of time.

There'll be other appointments, other council presidents, other mayors potentially, and have a chance to have other appointments, is what I would say.

So but I will be voting for this one and all the others.

Thank you.

Next go to Councilmember Gay, you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh I concur with past president Freeman that as I said before that uh I think we're we're we're doing a board that's not really connected, like the was the desire, the spirit of it originally.

And so that that's where my hesitation, reluctance to move forward with this.

I understand fully by this is sitting here, and it's just we need to get moving forward with the funding.

Uh, but it it's we're being put in a bad situation to where you know the the community has repeatedly come and showed up and said this is not what we we want.

This is not what we desire uh to to move forward with.

So it's uh through the chair to Ms.

Stuttered uh with you sitting on the board.

Um do you see how the community is trying to uh uh cry out that they that they really want to make sure their voices are heard?

Is this something that that you will be tuned in to?

100%.

I this is a community that deserves respect.

I'm happy to hear any voice.

I'm grateful to be given the opportunity to represent this part of our history in Jacksonville.

And I want to make sure the residents get to stay in their homes.

Okay, all right.

Well thank thank you.

So you know, back to the the community or the the committee here.

It the this is what I'm I'm wanting all the members to be able that's coming before us to commit to us that they are going to be dialed into not just what the the this new board wants, but what the community wants.

And that's where uh I really feel that the the communities wanting a sense of security that this will be going in the right direction.

This will have their uh you know their thoughts and their desires and and will represent their desires for the community.

So that that's that's my biggest biggest concern is that yes, move it forward, but it's we we're on track with the community.

And so that that's where I'm still torn to support these or not, but that that's my desire to each one of these uh candidates that are coming before us that they commit that they are going to be tuned in and cognizant of the community.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

We'll go next uh again to pass President Freeman.

Uh thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

Uh, you do you want to go to Council Member?

Is your first time speaking?

Yeah, okay.

For the council member for his first time.

All right.

Please.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I uh I'm gonna support this.

I I share some of the same sentiments of uh Mrs.

Salem.

Um we were not privileged to be part of the selection process.

Uh when it comes to choosing, sometimes you feel left out that you're not part of the process, and and that happens in just about every avenue of life when choices are made.

Um I'm gonna trust the process.

I believe the selection process began with one fundamental thought.

What is in the best interest of this community?

And don't know how many applicants were there, but these are the ones that were were chosen.

This is where the lots were cast.

And I have to assume and believe that these were great choices, and therefore I'm gonna trust the process, and I'm gonna support the names that were brought forth.

Um of them are residents.

Um have vested interests, like Berman has been in the community for 80 years, you said.

Those are vested interests, and we can't ignore that.

Um because of all the uh the calamity, and uh I know that there are two of the uh names that have been put forth, have now withdrawn.

Uh they don't want to be a part of the uh the mess.

They don't want to be part of the confusion.

But we gotta trust the process.

All we've been asked to do is approve the nomination.

They have vetted the the uh nominees, and we move forward.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

I'll I'll just simply close with this.

When I'm still gonna take each on a case-by-case basis.

I don't believe in blanket supporting on the rules committee of any of them.

Uh government is slow, we understand that.

Um, I do believe the difference between what was done in the past that uh council and Gullifer started and council member Salem past president picked up was such a unique area when it comes to that opioid and the trust fund and the lawsuit, the skill that it took, the the educational background that it took, as well as the experience of dealing and treating patients, it automatically created a it narrowed the scope here, and as always, Councilmember Boylan really kind of landed a plane a little bit, was talking more about tough decisions and nonprofits.

Well, that's relative.

Tough decisions for some families living in the community is different than a tough decision for someone that's running a business or sitting on the board.

It's still a tough decision.

Um what I'm saying is this.

Why was it delayed this long?

Like I hear it's been delayed so long.

Is it because of the council?

And is it can someone answer that question for me through the chair to anyone to Mr.

Dennis?

Are we the cause for this to be delayed until this point?

Because I hear it's been going so long, and now there's this sense of urgency.

Uh through the chair to Councilman uh Freeman.

Um I hate to point the fingers.

So uh you know, it was a legislative process, you know, the the sausage was was made up here.

Uh but but you know, now we're at a point uh to start, you know, executing something.

Okay, that that works.

Thank you.

So he's saying that it is it is incumbent on us that we have taken this long to get to this point, um, although it's not our appointment.

So now there is a cause a call for action.

To me, through through the chair to to OGC, if one of these uh amazing individuals sitting in that front row wanted to be put forward, how long is the legislative process if we wanted to bring someone new to it starting next Tuesday?

If we did an in and out emergency, I already know the answer, but I'm just gonna just try to ask you like if we're if we if there's a code or something that requires if we're appointing people to boards, they must go through a process for 20 days or 30 days.

How quickly could we get someone turned around through the chair to council member freeman?

So there were a lot of ifs in that sentence.

Um but let me just say this.

So you could do an in and out emergency.

You could introduce that on Tuesday night, and you need to waive the code provision that requires appearance at the rules committee if you did not, if you did not uh interview them, um you'd have to waive that.

Uh but that could be done very quickly.

So the regular cycle is six weeks, and that doesn't factor in the application interview process that before the legislation is drafted.

So you just mentioned, and one, I wouldn't be in favor of waiv coming to being confirmed by rules.

So we're saying a two-week cycle, a one cycle.

They'd have to at least go through a cycle once.

But you just said something about interviewing through the chair to Ms.

Shell.

What do you even mean when you say interviewing?

Are you saying all of these people that are here before us now have been interviewed by somebody?

And if so, can we get dates of when they were first interviewed?

Because I've been told it's the policymaking process that has dragged it out to this point.

I didn't interview anybody up here.

I don't know if anybody up over here interviewed them.

Which one did you interview?

Once once they were put forward.

Yes.

Is that what you're talking about when you say interview?

So through the chair to council member Freeman, I am referring to the council rule that requires that all appointees appear here before rules committee, and you are right now interviewing Ms.

Stoddard, and you have the opportunity to ask her questions.

Fair enough, but not interviewed or vetted, because I heard the term vetted earlier.

That they would have been vetted and we were going to trust that they were being vetted.

So I was trying to figure out if you were saying that was a part of the process, them being vetted to get to the point where they're confirmed.

So that is part of the process.

The appointment, the whoever's doing the appointee, whether it's the mayoral administration or council president, looks through applications and has the opportunity to contact them and and decide who they are going to put forward in before any legislation is drafted.

Yes, ma'am.

So if I'm hearing it correctly, in the sausage making process, the vetting part from not our side, but from the administration side, that delay would be on their side then, not us.

Through the chair, that is correct.

Okay, so I wanted to make sure those sitting in the front know, because we get our fair share of blame sitting on this council.

And so I want to make sure that there is a complete and clear understanding of and we have our picks coming up next.

So uh Ms.

Starter, thank you for putting yourself forward.

I'm I'm probably going to be voting against everyone right now, even my friends, and I'm sorry, Mr.

Warren back there, and I'm sorry, Mr.

Dr.

Jameson, who's a really good friend, because I hear them.

I don't know the story.

I know Ms.

Pickett well.

I would love to talk with people.

Yes, I have time to do it.

I had time to do it, and I still have time.

I'm not gonna feel urgency for spending taxpayer dollars, 40 million dollars.

I'm not gonna feel that in the urgency to spend taxpayer dollars if I don't think that there's confidence in the community where it's gonna be spent that it's gonna be spent effectively.

And whenever I hear people pressing me to hurry and do something, I oftentimes wonder then who's benefiting.

I'm sorry, but that's just the frame of reference that I work from.

So I'm going to thank you for coming.

I'm probably if I have to vote today, will probably be no, and then have a right to support change my mind at a later period, which would probably be next Tuesday.

And in the meantime, between now and then, I would love to meet with Ms.

Pickett.

Uh, and I'd love to meet with whoever your leader is from this group and get an understanding of did you have an opportunity to apply?

And did anyone apply?

And if so, how many of your people were even put forward to get a chance to stand up here?

Um access is always the biggest barrier.

I understand that.

Thank you.

All right.

I'm I'm sorry, Ms.

Starter.

Uh a lot of this discussion hasn't been about you, it's been more about the process.

So thank you very much for your for your patience here.

Um we will we will address your nominations specifically, but I wanted to make some comments because there were some overall comments made about the process.

Um as the rules chair, I take the process very seriously.

I've spent a lot of time looking into the process, looking into our legislation, how it's worded, and what criteria we have established, as well as looking into all of the nominees and whether or not they match up with that criteria.

Um I must tell you, um, even though there was a tremendous amount of wonderful work that went into all of this, putting all this together, I still believe going forward, we have some adjustments to make on our criteria for selection.

Um that doesn't mean we can't go forward with the qualified people now.

Um, so we can get the process started.

Uh that's going to be up to our body as a whole uh to entertain that.

However, um, and I'll I'll go through these two where as clauses because I think it's important for us to understand.

Other nominations for other boards, these aren't options.

Some of these criteria, they're required, and we have to get waivers if they don't meet those requirements.

However, the way this has been worded for this particular um this particular board, it's a committee rather, Eastside Grants Committee.

Both of the main sets of criteria aren't required.

So I'm going to read through this just so we make sure we understand, and I'm doing that only because if we as a body have input into changes, we can do that.

Great start.

Like I said, a lot of great work, but I think these two paragraphs, we need to get further scrutiny going forward after this process.

And the one states, whereas to the extent feasible, the mayor and city council president, council president rather, shall endeavor to appoint members who reside in or have a substantial economic business interest in each of the five neighborhoods that comprise the East Wood, the East Side as follows.

Campbell's addition, Fairfield, Long Branch, Oakland, Phoenix, and whereas in addition, the mayor and council president are encouraged to appoint members who also have experience or expertise in one of the following areas: economic development or workforce development, affordable housing, and or workforce housing and mitigation and prevention of homelessness, which may include, but it's not limited to experience and home repairs, tax relief, airs, property, or related matters.

Those two areas say I believe a lot of wonderful criteria, but in neither case are they required.

So the mayor and the City Council President may put forth nominees that don't fit any of those criteria, actually.

And they would be perfectly within their authority to do that.

I'm just saying long term, I would like to see some of your input on those two paragraphs specifically.

I think most of what I've read and the rest of what's been done, again, wonderful work, but there's some fine tuning that needs to be done.

And I would say, Mr.

Dennis, with the administration, there are a couple of people you mentioned who have been withdrawn or are being withdrawn from consideration.

There may be a perfect opportunity to take a look at some of the other folks that have put in resumes.

Some of them I heard went in after this selection process occurred.

Maybe there's a perfect opportunity to get a couple more people that that actually fit this criteria that that would be amenable to all concerned.

I'm just suggesting that may be a uh a good way to look at this.

And um I thank everyone for your partner's process again.

Past President Salem and the others that did all this wonderful work, it's wonderful work.

A lot of people from the out east gave a lot of great input, and it was incorporated into what was done.

So I'm not, please hear me correctly.

I'm not condemning the process or saying it's all messed up.

Every new program, every new process can always be improved upon.

And so for me, this is this is an example, and it's great we voice all of this, that the residents and our colleagues.

So I'm gonna leave it there for now.

I I do getting back to you again, thank you so much for your patience and everyone else as well.

I believe your significant long-term family business interest speaks loudly, and I've heard a couple of people mention you who came forward numerous times.

And I think, in my opinion, that is a good enough uh you know, very substantial credibility and interest in out east.

Uh so I will I personally will be supporting your your nomination here uh today.

Uh so uh that was a lot of talk, but that was about everything, so I I think it going forward, we won't have as much conversation on each one of the people who comes forward, I believe.

Um anyone else before we open the ballot and record your votes.

Okay, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Six years, one abstention.

Okay, by your actions, you have approved 2026 0239.

Um again, Ms.

Doddard, thank you very much and thank you for your your patience.

Thank you.

Um we have past President Freeman like to comment on his vote.

Uh thank you, you can have thank you, uh, Mr.

Chair.

Uh if you all can recall during the budgetary uh process or session, anything involving with the CBA.

I recused myself or abstained out of an abundance of caution uh because my employer Mill Electric uh does work uh with the Jaguars.

Uh I just thought of it as I was sitting here going through it, probably would have never said anything had I not, but I went and talked to the attorneys and they're waiting to hear back.

So just wanted to give everybody an understanding of why I'm going to be abstaining moving forward uh and as I did before.

So thank you.

Now I was allowed to speak during the CBA, so it was not any type of an ethics issue with me speaking.

It's just only on the vote.

Okay, thank you.

Well, next also on page nine to item 18, 2026 0240.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Is uh Dr.

Jameson here, please.

Good afternoon.

Uh Rudy Jameson, 1402 Florida Avenue.

Okay.

Um Dr.

Jameson, would you give us a little bit about your background and and uh tell us a little bit about why you believe this is the right fit for you for Eastside Grants Committee?

Absolutely.

Um I'm from Out East.

I was born and raised out there, had the opportunity to grow up in the same home that my mother and all of her siblings grew up in.

My father and my mother graduated from Matthew W.

Gilbert, which is the was a junior senior high school out there.

So there's there's a live experience there.

Um I'm former educator.

I currently serve as the executive director for the Jacksonville Human Rights Commission.

Uh I live out east and I love out, and I think I bring a unique perspective as it relates to uh the community benefits agreement, and that um I've lived my life out there.

I spend my time, my treasure, and my talents out there.

Um I have a understanding of the history of out east, and I work in a I work in the fair housing.

So I understand fair housing and equal employment opportunity, and I think those are the things that I I bring to the table to help steward uh this incredible opportunity of revitalizing out east.

Okay, thank you.

Um anyone in the queue?

Anyone like to oh yes.

Um councilmember Amar, you're recognized, please.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair Um Rudy.

Can I call you Rudy?

Yeah, uh thank you for stepping forward.

Uh I have no question about your commitment and your conviction to the community uh that you call your home.

Uh the uh there have been some questions raised about uh your service on uh JAX uh Lyft, Lyft Jacks.

Uh are you still associated with that entity and and what's going on there?

I have resigned from the Lyft Jacks board.

Okay.

All righty, thank you.

I will go next to Councilmember Gay.

Be recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And uh as I did with the the last uh candidate, Mr.

J through the chair to Mr.

Jameson.

Um you've heard all the uh comments and concerns from the community, and I just employ you to keep keep their uh them in focus, their desires, and uh what the community uh wants to have done, keep their voices uh pertinent to this board and uh uh to the best that that can be, but uh that I just want that commitment uh as we move forward that their voices will not go unheard.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So through the chair to Councilman Gay, um I absolutely agree with the concerns that you heard earlier.

Uh you heard um you heard Garrett Dennis talk about uh after five out east and uh eight to five out east, so to speak.

Um, and I think there has been an underrepresentation of an after-five voice.

And I use after five after five as a metaphor, right?

Because when you come out east, there's a different leadership looks different, and politics looks different after five, right?

I live out there.

I spent all of my time out there, so I'm a 24-7 out east, right?

So to your concerns about that, I share those concerns, and I'm committed to involving those voices.

Absolutely.

Past president Freeman, you're recognized.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair, and I just want to go on record to say again, I'll I'll be abstaining.

Uh Dr.

Jameson, good to see you.

No, know you bleed out east uh out east, and um never a doubt my mind uh when it comes to uh names like this.

Definitely a concern, and but again, you to your point of the 24-7, you hearing them.

I trust and I lead with trust, and I do believe that situations that were mentioned earlier, uh you will resolve them.

So one thank you, sir, for resigning from the board.

That was the itch that needed to be scratched in that conflict.

So you remove that conflict that that was the issue that I had per se as well.

Um so I wish you the best uh uh as you move forward, but I'll be abstaining obviously until I hear from our attorneys if I'm able to vote or not.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And I'll I'll close this out before we take our vote.

Um Dr.

Jameson.

Um this is not part of the process, but as you heard, um someone made some direct comments, some direct claims.

If you'd like to address uh any of those things at this time, feel free to do that.

If not, we'll move forward uh to the vote.

Oh, absolutely.

Um so the young lady who mentioned that I had lunch with her regarding her apartment.

I had lunch with her, and I'll let her know that that wasn't within the jurisdiction of the Jacksonville Human Rights Commission because it it was non-jurisdictional and it there wasn't any discriminatory practices associated with that.

I did report her issues to Lyft Jacks to that organization, although they do not they are not the sole owner of that property.

I think they do some case management for that property.

So I think that's a landlord tenant tenant issue that absolutely needs to be addressed.

Thank you, Mars sir.

And I'm hoping the right people are listening, or if not, someone will go and let them know very clearly what the concerns are.

Um so having having said that, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Six years, zero nays, one abstention.

By your action, you approve 2026 0240.

Thank you, Dr.

Jameson.

And for all the um appointments, I should have said this earlier.

Uh, for those who have gone through the the system, you are welcome next Tuesday night at the full council to come and at the beginning of the council meeting, you will all be recognized for stepping up to serve your community.

Um we will go through person by person each name and ask you to stand and be recognized.

Um with that, we'll go also go to page number 10, item number 21, 2026 0243.

We have motion and second on the bill.

Is Ms.

Breeding here, please.

Good afternoon.

Hello, would you please state your name and address for the record and tell us a little bit about why you think the mobility system working group is a good fit for you?

Beth Breeding, 1368, Birmingham Road South, Jacksonville, 32207.

Um, I've been a developer, a real estate developer for more than 36 years.

Um I've done probably more than a hundred projects, and on every single one, we had to do a traffic study.

I've been part of development orders.

Um I've been in charge of widening uh major collector roadways.

So I've had quite a bit of experience of seeing how the communities affected by traffic from development and um how the community can benefit from developers doing the job in the right way.

And so I believe uh with as many traffic studies and uh projects that I've been a part of, I can lend I can lend a different uh perspective uh to the mobility fees.

Thank you very much.

Anyone in the queue?

Would you like to um ask any questions?

No, I see no one, but I'm I'm gonna make a comment because I've I've had the pleasure of being around many meetings where um where Ms.

Breeding has participated and uh she brings a wealth of experience.

Um I've been to many NEFPA different meetings, different challenges they've had with different counties that they've had to work through in Northeast Florida, and she has led the way on many of those issues to get things resolved between the different parties.

And so I just wanted to put that on the record.

Um you are way more than qualified for this position, and we thank you for for stepping up and and serving.

Uh would you please open the ballot and record your votes?

Seven yays, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0243.

Thank you.

We'll now go to page 11, item number 23, 2026, 0245.

We have a motion second on the bill.

Is Ms.

Pierce here, please?

If you would introduce yourself and uh state your address for the record as well.

Good afternoon.

Emily Pierce, 1301, River Place Boulevard.

Thank you.

If you could also tell us a little bit about your background and why the mobility system working group is a good fit for you.

Gladly.

I've been practicing law in the city of Jacksonville for 35 years.

I practice exclusively in land use zoning and entitlements.

I have dealt with mobility issues both in Jacksonville and in other jurisdictions.

I have both defended them for cities and counties and challenged them for people like NIFPA.

I believe that I bring a unique perspective because I know what it takes from the legal side to make a mobility fee that is fair and equitable for everyone.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Seeing no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0245, and thank you as well.

We'll next go to item number 24, 2026, 0247.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Is Ms.

Reed here, please.

Good afternoon, Kristen Reid.

My address is 12740, Grand Bay Parkway West, suite 2350, Jacksonville, Florida, 32258.

Thank you.

Would you also give us a little bit about your background as well?

Certainly.

I was with the department when we did the initial transition from transportation concurrency to the mobility system and helped draft the initial initial mobility plan.

And over the years, uh working with the planning department had many interactions with people on mobility.

And now that I'm in the private sector, I have the opportunity to see that from the other side.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you approve 2026 0247.

We'll now go to page 12, item number 25, 2026 0250.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Is Mr.

Small here, please?

Yes, he's already there.

Good afternoon.

Brian Small, address on file.

Thank you.

Would you also tell us a little bit about your background and how that's a good fit for the mobility system working group?

Absolutely.

I'm a 20-year resident of Jacksonville.

The first five years were with the planning and development department.

The next 10 were with private and public home builders.

And the last six, the last five have been with my company Bird Dog.

I've seen mobility fees on both sides of the aisle, and I'd like to be a part of coming up with a fair and equitable fee for the future.

Thank you, sir.

There's no one in the queue.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0250.

We'll next go to item number 26, 2026 0251.

May I have a motion.

We have a motion, second on the bill.

Mr.

Hertzberg, are you here?

Yes, please come forward.

Good afternoon, Mr.

Chairman.

Mike Herzberg, 12483 Aladdin Road, Jacksonville, Florida.

Thank you for the opportunity.

I I really just want to work with all my former planning department friends.

But uh no, I've actually been planning in the uh in the city of Jacksonville for the past three plus decades.

I started off as a transportation planner in this city.

I've worked with the mobility program not only as a developer uh but as a as with a consultant uh to others.

Uh I would like to use my experience and and uh time spent with the city and its programs to try and further and bring about a better mobility program, one that's uh both fair to the industry of which I work, the commercial industry as well as uh the city and its citizens.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven Yay's zero and ease.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0251.

We'll next go to page 13, item number 27, 2026 0252.

Motion second on the bill.

Um anyone in the queue, this is your chance.

Councilman Johnson is not here.

So you have an opportunity.

Okay, open the bot and record your vote.

Seven Yay's zero and by reaction, you've approved 2026 0252.

We'll next go to um item number 28, 2026 0254.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Is Mr.

Warren here, please?

Would you please come forward and introduce yourself?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

My name is Cleve Warren.

I'm a resident of Jacksonville.

I live at 3061 Sunset Landing Drive.

My zip code is 3220.

I'm sorry, 3226.

Yeah, thank you.

Would you please tell us a little bit about your background that seems to be in your mind a uh really good fit for the East Side Grants Committee?

Well, I don't live on the East Side.

I was born there, and I my family settled in a church that's still there.

It's been there 146 years as the first Baptist Church of Oakland.

My grandmother and two older sisters moved to Jacksonville in two in 1924 and settled in that church, and we've been worshiping there as a family ever since.

At the corner of uh of uh Philip Randolph and Third Street is Debs Groceries.

It's an apartment upstairs.

Uh now I think it's by star.

But my grandmother married uh three of her daughters were married in that apartment when Cleve was in kindergarten.

Um in the city, I've served in uh Mayor Austin administration in the 90s as uh chief of economic development.

And on leaving state the city government, I went to work for Governor Martinez in the state of Florida as executive director of the uh Florida Black Business Investment Board.

My professionally I've grown up primarily in the city of Jacksonville as a banker.

I worked for the old Barnett Bank system as a commercial lender uh and employed those skills uh lending money to some very large businesses in our community.

Later settled into being executive director of a small business lending firm that did SPA 504 lending.

And in fact, that entity we partnered with the city to do uh small business lending and something called um essential capital is the name of the company.

We the city made a grant to the entity for about a million and a half dollars, and we gave we uh closed the program down with the exception of one loan loss.

All of the proceeds were returned to the city.

That church I mentioned, uh First Baptist Church of Oakland, owned the first CDC in this area, and by way of that CDC and a Choto license that we got in 1991, I believe.

We built some 52 houses in the East Side community by way of our church.

That same church started a credit union in the early 60s that we ran for more than 30 years.

That same church built the 60 unit apartment at the corner of Jesse Street and Van Buren that exists today.

It was then called um uh Oakland Terrace.

I'm not sure what the name of it is now, but our church has been intimately engaged in affordable housing and construction and economic development uh as an entity housed in the community in Cleve being a member of it and a member of the leadership of that church involved in that economic development activity as well.

So a personal experience as a family growing up with my family in the east side.

I didn't finish high school from Jackson or or Matthew Gilbert by the time I graduated was still Matthew Gilbert.

A rain's graduate.

We moved to the North Side, but we stayed in touch with the community that we settled into in 1924.

And as I said earlier, I still worship there.

All right, thank you, sir.

Anyone anyone in the queue?

Yes, we have Councilmember Gay, you recognize.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh, through the chair to Mr.

Warren here.

The uh question that I I've posed to all the candidates that's come forward.

Um your credentials are outstanding, but uh in fairness, I want to uh ask you the same.

Are you committed to the the commit to the community that you'll hear their voice and work with them uh throughout uh your tenure on on this board, and that that's that's what I want to make sure is that the voice of the community is going to be uh recognized.

Through the chair to Councilman Gay, absolutely.

That would be my response.

Um it's hard to um for me anyway to make a distinction between uh my family's history in the east side and for somebody who lives there today.

I drive to it three times a week.

So worship to Bible study, but to some youth program, and my wife, quite frankly, is an assistant pastor at the first Baptist Church of Oakland.

So our engagement in the neighborhood uh is constant, it's active, we see what's going on in it, and our church still remains actively involved in it, and by way of my membership in that church, I stay involved.

So I I I would say to you, have no doubt that we would give the time and energy that's needed uh to do a productive job for our community and more particularly for the east side.

All right, thank you, sir.

We'll go next to Councilmember Amara, you recognize thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um Cleve, you spoke of yourself in a third person a second ago, and I thought that was interesting.

Through the chair, what I'd like to hear you explain is in your role as a member of first Baptist Church of Oakland in the development of these 52 houses and 60 apartment units.

Just how instrumental you were in achieving that.

I'd like to I'd like you to expound on that.

Sure.

As a picture of your commitment to the community.

Uh through the chair to Councilman uh Amaro.

The apartments were built when Cleve was in high school.

So I was not involved in it, but just saw it come up, uh, built on the spot where Borlinhaven uh girls' school used to be, and I have family members who are graduates of Borlandhaven.

The houses, however, was a horse of a different hue.

Uh Reverend Daly, C.B.

Daly was uh pastor of the church at the time.

He had a history in the community as being entrepreneurial.

It was his idea to start the credit union.

It was his idea to acquire the the um uh Cho.

It was his idea to build the houses as we looked around the neighborhood to see what the housing stock looked like.

We needed and felt like as a church, we needed to be involved.

And I had a personal role in that.

He was Reverend Daly was president and chair of everything we did at our church.

But there were folk that he uh employed, not financially, but assigned in our church to be responsible for, and the housing project was one of those for me.

The credit union was one of those for me, in addition to serving as a deacon in our church.

Thank you.

We'll go next to past President Freeman.

You're you're recognized.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair, through the chair to Mr.

Warren.

One again, thank you for putting yourself forward.

One, I'll tell you you have the right temperament, you have the right connectivity, um, and I think, and I know you have the right heart for it.

And that was one of the reasons why, and I know in the beginning it sounded like I was against everybody, which is unfortunately how this slate's kind of been drawn.

Um it's more the process that I'm upset with.

I have to abstain, but I think having watching the body language of those who might not have known you prior to coming up here.

I see a I see a I see a shift even in the body language.

You're someone that's gonna add value to it.

You're someone that's gonna listen.

You're someone that is still engaged, you choose to come back to the community eight three days a week, as you say, and worship in it.

Listen, I'm the son of a pastor.

I get it.

And as a small church and a small community that was an hour away from my house, and no less than four days a week, we were going into that community and serving it.

I know your heart's gonna be in the right place for this one.

So again, this is this was not an indictment on the slate, Miss Stoddard in the back.

It was more of a process.

And so thank you for putting yourself forward.

I'll be abstaining until I hear back from the attorneys, but this would be one that I would truly uh enjoy supporting.

Thank you, Councilman.

Thank you.

Uh before we go to the vote, I just want to also add you hadn't mentioned this, but no one had asked.

Um I just want to thank you as a old 30-year army guy for your army and your Air Force service for our country.

I appreciate that.

And this is continued service.

So I I thank you for continuing to have that selfless service attitude uh that is needed, especially in this community that needs the help to be able to get to the place they deserve to be.

So thank you very much.

Thank you very much, Councillor.

With that, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Six years, zero nays, one abstention.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0254.

Next, we'll go to item number 29, 2026 0255.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Is Mr.

Edwards here, please?

If you'll come forward and introduce yourself.

Okay, sir.

If you give us a little bit about your background and where you're a good fit for the East Side Grants Committee.

I'm a lifetime member of Alice 24st Street, not Florida Avenue area.

Um family been out there since 1883.

Um I went to every high school on the east side, Andrew Jackson.

Me and my me and Councilman Gay played high school football together.

Yeah.

And um, I've been a farmer, retired captain for Jacksonville Fire Rescue Department, did 27 years there.

Um I still go to church at least.

I own my mom hall side east 1248 East 24th Street.

I'm the president of Jacksonville Brotherhood of Firefighters.

I'm over the Andrew Jackson Alumni Association.

Um I love our least.

I don't actually feel to go live on the east side, but I'm out there four to five times a day on 21st Street side.

So not Florida Avenue side.

So um that's where I think I'm a good fit for it.

Okay.

Thank you, sir.

We'll go next to Past President White.

You recognize Yes, Mr.

Chair.

I don't have any questions for James.

I just can confirm, and I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor.

I watched him for 27 years, or he watched me.

Uh, he is a man that compromises, he's a man of character, and he's a man of doing the right thing.

And uh congratulations, hopefully, James.

Thank you, Chief.

Thank you.

We'll next go to Councilmember Gay.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and uh thank you, Mr.

Edwards coming forward and uh uh for this for this role.

Uh as all the other candidates that's come forward, I just want to get that uh commitment that you're gonna listen to the to the community and uh let their voice be heard and that resonate with your performance on this board.

And uh as I know I know you will because that's you know that that's where it's where you come from.

And uh so I just want to uh get that commitment, and uh I'd also like to be added as a co-sponsor to one of my fellow tiger football players.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

We'll next go to council member Omaro.

You recognize thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh Mr.

Edwards, I thank you for putting yourself forward and having a desire to uh give back to the community.

I just got one question, uh, just a little bit of levity.

What kind of player was Mr.

Gay?

Did he hit hard?

Yeah.

Um councilman gay who's a two years older than me, so I played with him for about five games.

I was on the JV and I got moved up to the boss and he played similar for us.

Yeah, Councilman Gay was a player.

He's a player.

All right.

With that light moment, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Six years, zero nays, one abstention.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0255.

We'll now go to page 31.

Excuse me, page 14, item 31.

2026 0257.

Looking for a motion on the amendment, please.

We have a motion and second on amendment.

Ms.

Carrer, would you please explain the amendment?

Yes, through the chair to the committee.

The amendment will strike the reference to the emplo the appointees substantial business interest in the Fairfield neighborhood.

This appointee owns a business that's located just outside of the boundary of the Fairfield neighborhood that was identified through the legislation that established this committee.

So technically that qualification is not met.

So we'll strike that and we'll correct some scriveners' errors within the bill.

Okay.

Thank you.

All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

We have a motion second on the bill as amended.

Mr.

Swink, would you please come forward and introduce yourself?

Good afternoon.

My name is Larry Swink.

As stated, I run a business and uh Jackson Electric Supply 1502 Jesse Street.

Um any Odd East neighborhood.

I apologize.

I did think until a moment ago that I was in the Fairfield district.

So we uh I'm here because uh well I'll let you ask the question, I'm sorry.

And then my address is uh yeah, 1502 Jesse Street.

Well you you are in that district, however, when the district was created for this legislation, it didn't include the industrial the industrial section.

I believe you're right across the road, actually.

Um so it isn't a matter of you aren't in that neighborhood.

It that area of the neighborhood industrial wasn't included uh in the original map.

So yes, if and if you just tell us a little bit about your background, please.

Sure, absolutely.

Um so uh I've been in electrical distribution uh for almost 30 years.

Um a good portion of that was actually uh in the Odyssey neighborhood.

I started with GE supply and we were located uh on um Fourth Street and just across from Dansauto Air, and then in uh 2013, I was fortunate to start my own business, and in 2020, uh we needed a bigger building, and I was able to move uh out east, and so we purchased a building uh there on Jesse Street.

Um I uh spent most of the time really just trying to grow my business and keep our doors open, and that's what my focus was.

A couple of years ago, I had some things in my business that shook me a little bit, and uh let me know that it was time to find things to be focused on other than the bottom line.

I started to get involved in uh things happening um in our neighborhood in out east with all the different groups that are doing fantastic work there, and I found more than something to give to.

We found something we really believe in.

Um I think we've become a partner in the community.

Uh people know that they can pick up the phone and call us, and we're gonna be there to support them.

Uh we certainly um support all the groups are represented here today.

Um, and when it comes to listening to the community, um I'm only here because I listened to the community and I had several community members that did ask that we represent business interests.

It's very important to me that every penny of this money goes to the people of out east that have been doing the work for years long before the CBA showed up and uh long after that money is spent, they'll be there doing the hard work, and I just want to support it.

All right, thank you, sir.

Anyone in the queue.

We'll go to councilmember gay, please.

You recognize thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Swink, for coming forward for this.

And as I've uh addressed each of the candidates that come, uh, just want to get that commitment that you're always going to be uh have an ear to the community and and their desires, and uh just let their voices, voices be heard and uh uh represent them is is what the commitment I'm looking for, and uh appreciate you coming forward.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

No one else in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Six yays, zero nays, one abstention.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0257.

We'll now go to the front part of the uh revised marked agenda, and we'll work our way through the rest of the bills.

Thank you all for coming who were nominated.

Item number one, 2024-0627 is deferred at the request of Councilmember Diamond, and I am following up on this and the next one as as requested, but I don't have an answer for you yet.

Uh but 2024 0627 is deferred.

2024 0966 is also deferred at the request of Council President Carrico.

Item 3, 2025 0775 is deferred at the request of Councilmember Carlucci.

Item number four, 2026-0187.

We have a motion second on the bill.

Anyone in the queue?

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you have approved 2026 0187.

Item number five, 2026 0192 is deferred.

Um and this is my decision to continue the deferral until we get the additional information.

Um the efforts that are ongoing regarding JEA.

Also, item number six, 2026 0203 is also deferred for the same reason.

We have already taken up item 7 and item number 8, 2026 0213.

We have a motion second on the amendment.

Ms.

Kerr, would you please explain the amendment?

Through the chair to the committee.

The amendment will add the exact dollar amount that's in the September 30th, 2024.

Um, 392,138,000.

And also add some language explaining that amount and how it uh reconciles with the amounts that are reported in the ACFER.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Um excuse me, pass President Sam on the amendment.

No, not on the amendment.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um anyone on the amendment?

Uh all those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

We have a motion and second on the bill is amended.

We're going to pass President Salem.

Yes, uh, thank you, Chair.

Y'all might recall that I had some discussion about a percentage on this bill.

Um I have an amendment, but I left it upstairs, and I will do it tomorrow at finance.

Um it's 17 percent, but I want to use the right language that was that oh, I'm sorry, Philip is here.

I didn't see Philip behind me.

Philip, can you help me please?

I forgot my cheat sheet upstairs.

Yes, sir.

Through the chair to the committee uh working with Councilmember Salem.

Um his goal was to uh establish the operating reserves at a certain percentage of the city's operating budget and be able to fund this um unfunded completion grants or unfunded one-time lump sum incentive payments as long as that percentage is met.

And so his amendment would be to um establish an operating reserve balance floor that would be the higher of the 392 million 138,000 dollars that uh Ms.

Carriher referenced as part of the amendment, or 17 percent of the General Fund General Service District operating budget.

The purpose of that is as the budget um continues to rise, and we assume it will, uh the 392 will continue to be a smaller portion of that budget.

So I wanted a percentage that will that we will maintain.

The auditors work with me.

They felt like 17 percent was the right number, so that's that's what I'm recommending.

Looking for a second.

I got we have we have a second.

Um we have an amendment and a second.

Um any discussion uh past President, excuse me, past President Freeman, please.

You recognize.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Through the chair to uh Councilman uh Salem.

Councilman Lennon kind of did the rounds with this last week, and I do recall you mentioning something.

How we can't read his mind.

He's obviously not here, but how does this align with the conversation that you all had last week, just so we make sure that it aligns completely.

He he left it up to myself and uh Mr.

Peterson to come up with the percentage, but he was all on board with a percentage as a floor, and we just came up with 17 percent.

So uh um he's very supportive.

Thank you.

Thank you both.

Uh that was my question.

I just want to make sure the introducer, this uh this was in sync with with his thinking, and if there is anything to address, I'm sure they'll have another shot in finance, but it sounds like that's all been worked out, so that's great.

So that's great.

Um anyone else.

Let's see.

Now where are we again?

I'm sorry.

To the chair, you're on the Salem amendment, which is the same.

And you could take a vote on that.

We we need a vote on that amendment.

Okay.

All those in favor of the Salem amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The Salem amendment passes.

Um the chair, would you like to roll those up for key?

Okay.

So I'm looking for a motion.

Okay.

We have a motion and second on the bill as amended.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero and nays.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0213 as amended.

We next go to item 9, 2026 0220.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Seeing no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 zero two two zero.

We've already taken up item number ten.

We'll go to item number eleven.

And I see council member Peluso has joined us.

Item 20260223.

We move motion second on the bill.

Um we have uh past President Salem.

Uh you're recognized.

Thank you, Chair.

I voted uh against this in neighborhoods this morning.

Um we expanded the downtown hours of operation from 2 a.m.

to 3 a.m.

Um and that bill was signed at the end of February.

So it's been in place about seven weeks.

I think the um the idea behind when council member Arius brought this to the council was to gain some experience with the 3 a.m.

He was looking at 5 a.m.

and compromised at 3.

I would like to see 3 a.m.

for some period of time before we expand it to 5 in this area and or in any other area of of Jacksonville.

So I'll be I'll be a no on this.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll go to visiting councilmember Peluso.

You're recognized.

Thank you, Chair.

Um to the point that I know it got through neighborhoods.

I know many of you were in there, so we kind of talked about it then.

Um I did expect to have um Stacey here.

She is not in town, she's in Key West for a funeral, so I apologize for that.

She she's the owner of Inca Hoots and the one who um has been the most vocal about this.

But this was this was amended into the last version.

So we did have Brooklyn as a part of the last version.

Um DIA approved it.

Um and the council sponsor also was on board with it.

And so I I don't think because he wasn't here on council night because I maybe wasn't paying attention as well as I should have.

Uh the amendment that carried uh the Brooklyn addition did not move forward and on city council night, and instead it went through without it.

And so that's what that's when you know when I heard from from um the owners of Incahoots how how disappointed they were.

And I I said that I would file this bill um to make sure that we get them in there because that was the expectation.

Um and so that's one of the reasons why we're here, and if it wasn't for a funeral, she would be here tonight.

She'll be here on Tuesday during uh council evening.

Um but I just asked that we, you know.

It it we look at downtown and and we wanted to do something good for Bay Street.

Um, this will be the only establishment in in Brooklyn that would even consider probably staying out this late.

It's a nightclub, it's been there for many long many, many years, and she's a small business owner who's been doing this work for a long time.

And so her big concern was hey, you know, I thought I thought we cared about small businesses, and here I am, you know, trying to do all this work and and work.

We're kind of gifting something to folks on on one street and and not to the rest of the downtown area.

So when it was approved by DIA, I thought that was a good sign.

When it was approved by um uh the neighborhoods committee, I thought it was a good sign, but but just asking that you you take a look at this and support it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll go next to pass president Freeman, please.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair, and and I'm a lover of small businesses, thus the 200,000 you see coming later for J Seb, and I do hope the administration changes their mind and supports that.

Um I am going to align with Councilman Salem on this one in the aspect, not that I don't want to see maybe potentially if this can I see this a little bit as a vote of a sprawl, but if we get go through a period, which is kind of the pilot time downtown area, which makes sense, and we we notice that they're not more incidences that cause challenges or concerns, then talking about expanding is uh I think then the appropriate time to do so.

And we we notice that they're not more incidences that cause challenges or concerns, then talking about expanding is uh I think then the appropriate time to do so.

So uh I'm gonna align with uh my colleagues here, Councilman Salem and Councilman Gay um in the time being and not support the expansion of what's already been done and signed.

Um had they gotten in that early one, they would have fallen in under, I guess under the wire, but unfortunately they uh they missed that window and so they'll have to catch the next one.

Thank you.

Okay, no one else in the queue.

I'll wrap this up before the vote.

Um I will say the same thing that I said in neighborhoods.

Um I will be supporting uh this bill.

Um I've looked up where the current location is and Cahoots is currently located in an area where it's it's uh business area.

Yes, there are a couple streets across, you go across and you'll you'll touch into some some residential high-rise.

Um but for now, because this is a one-hour difference, and because uh specific business has asked for it.

Um I I will go with this for now.

However, as I said earlier today, if we get any pushback, whether it be downtown or in the Brooklyn area from a significant amount of uh residential uh individuals, um I will I will do my best to bring this back up and we'll we'll revisit it.

But at this point, I will support um this this bill.

Anyone else?

Okay, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Four yes, three nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 two, excuse me, 2026 0223.

We'll next go to item 12 uh 2026 0227 is being deferred at the request of councilmember Diamond.

Uh item 13, 2026 0230.

We have motion and second on the bill.

We have Councilmember Amaro in the queue.

You recognize sir.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I want our offer up a floor amendment.

It's uh technical.

I'll uh defer to Ms.

Shell to explain what it's about.

Thank you.

Through the chair of the committee.

Second on it.

Do I need a second on it before?

I'll explain it and then I'll look for a second.

So the bill title in the first line refers to subdivision of lot 10, section 33 T1S-27E.

That is the correct um subdivision plat, but later in the title or first at Jack's Heights subdivision, and that is incorrect.

So this technical amendment would just remove the incorrect um subdivision reference in the title.

If we could get a second on that.

Second.

We have a motion, second on the uh Amaro amendment.

All those in favor, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed no.

The amendment passes.

We have motion and second on the bill is amended.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0230 as amended.

Item 14, 2026, 0231.

We have motion and second on the bill.

Um no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you have approved 2026 0231.

We've already taken up item 15.

Thank you.

Um, three seven.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

Um anyone in the queue, no.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you have approved 2026 0237.

We've already taken up item 17 and 18.

Um and uh item 19, 2026, 0241.

I have deferred.

Um Ms.

Black and I have been trying to catch up with each other, and she is returned from her trip, and we'll be getting together um sometime this week.

So thank the I thank the administration and also Ms.

Black for allowing me to defer until we we've been able to sit down and have a good chat.

Um item number 20, item 2026 0242.

I'm looking for a motion on a withdrawal.

We have a uh motion and a second uh on a withdrawal.

Um please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yay, zero nays.

By reaction, you have withdrawn 2026 through 242, and we have past President Salem.

Uh, you recognize.

Thank you.

Through the chair to Mr.

Dennis.

So we've had two people withdrawal.

Is that my understanding?

Are they both mayoral appointments?

Uh through the chair.

One is counsel.

Uh that was Sean Ashley, and then this one, Ariana Randolph, which is ours.

Do we know why they're withdrawing?

Um for ours, uh, the opinion came back from Ethys, the state ethics opinion.

I'll be more than happy to share that.

But basically, she is an employee of Lyft Jacks.

And if she is seated on the board, Lyft Jacks cannot apply for any of the funding.

And I think uh Sean Ashley, I think it was more so uh I think what uh Councilman O'Mara alluded to is a just a just a lot.

Uh and so he decided to just step away.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you.

Yes, we've already taken up item number 21.

So we'll move to item 22 2026 0244, which has been deferred also at the request of the appointee.

Um item 23, we've already taken up, item 24, we've taken up as well as 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, um item 30, 2026, 0256.

Uh looking for a motion on the withdrawal.

Yeah, we have motion, second on withdrawal, um, as was just talked about at the request of the appointee, please open the bot and record your vote.

7 yes, 0 nays.

By your action, you have withdrawn 2026 0256.

We've already taken up item 31.

Item 32, 2026 0258 is on second read, as well as item 33, 2026 0260, second read.

Item 34, 2026, 0262.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By reaction, you've approved 2026 0262.

Item 35, 2026, 0263.

We have a motion and second on the emergency, Ms.

Kerr, would you please explain the emergency?

Through the chair to the committee.

Uh the nature of the emergency is that the dollars uh that these uh that these dollars are going to be used for is an event that occurred uh this last weekend.

So the council member would like to make these funds available as soon as possible to offset those costs.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um those in favor of the emergency, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

Uh the emergency passes.

We have motion second amendment.

Would you also explain the amendment, Ms.

Kerr?

Through the chair to the committee.

The amendment will include CIP amendment language and attach a CIP project information sheet for the Council District 8 traffic calming project, which is being used to fund this grant.

And attach or revised exhibit two, which is the term sheet and budget to correct discriminator's error on the budget narrative.

Thank you.

Um the amendment?

Okay, we'll go to pass President Freeman, please.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair, and I'll just ask the tough questions.

Uh Gaffney, Councilman Jr.

Gaffney Jr.

is not here, but how many times have we as a body taken money that was for infrastructure roads and redirected it for a party that is already an event that's already happened?

I just want to see if we're creating a precedent because I have I have no problem voting against something like this if we're creating a precedent now that I don't want to see a slippery slope.

Through the chair to council member Freeman, uh I don't know the answer to your question, but I will say that these dollars, the council district eight traffic calming project, uh this was funded in the 23-24 budget.

This was a council strategic initiative that was requested by Councilmember Gaffney Jr.

Uh so the funds are being shifted to another request of his.

I mean, is the I'm trying to figure out what the urgency is in getting these dollars out.

One, and then two, why can't we use these dollars to fix a pothole or fix a light or make a park safer?

Through the chair to council member Freeman, the dollars in the Council of District 8 traffic calming project will not lapse.

It's the CIP project.

Uh it's in a capital fund, so those dollars will stay in that project until they the project is completed or they're appropriated to a different project.

Okay, thank you.

I'm gonna be voting against this only because I this reminds me of something last cycle where people were with the babies, and we're like, can we find a but we're all support saving lives, but can we find a better source for funding?

I don't know anybody up here that's gonna agree with traffic calming, anything that's dealing with infrastructure and safety um being shifted to a party that's already happened.

Uh so I'm not supporting this.

I'll gladly go to District 8, live close by it and share it with them and see if they have any concerns or if they have a sidewalk that needs some repair.

If we have this much money, then a lot of these individuals that are living in these communities they don't need to be complaining as much.

But we they have issues.

So I'm not gonna be a part of paying for this.

I wish Councilman Gaffney was here to explain it better to me, so I understand it, but I will gladly stand up on Tuesday as well, because I want the community to know, because I get yelled at a bunch.

I want them to know that we're choosing to spend $25,000 on an event that's already happened, oyster fest, and not fixing potholes and not fixing street lights and not lighting parks for our seniors to walk in.

Thank you.

Good next, Councilmember Gay, you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh I initially did support this in uh neighborhoods and as always uh uh I reserve my right to change my vote at any committee or council.

So uh now that you brought that to light, uh uh I think uh we we need to have have these answers and uh make sure that uh we get the money used as it was initially approved.

Um but let's let's uh we'll we'll see what uh what the next council meeting that uh TEU, what what what is said from Councilmember Gaffney?

So I'll I'll uh be changing my vote on this one and uh look forward to more dialogue on it.

Thank you.

Okay, well no we'll go next to uh past President White and then we'll go past President Salem.

I can't remember.

Oh well we'll go to Past President Salem.

Uh through the chair to Councilman Firm, you may recall through our dose, we we found 10 million dollars in the CIP for projects that had been completed and they were still all there a year later.

I I think I actually I think it was 18 months later.

So I mean this is not unusual to have dollars sitting there, unfortunately.

Sometimes there's there may be good reasons for that, but um it is frustrating.

And through the chair to Councilman Salem, that great work that you all did.

What did you do with a lot of those savings?

Did y'all pay down parties or did you put it towards debt?

Did we put it towards critical infrastructure and needs for our city?

Right?

And that's kind of where I'm going with this is is when we do the good work and he finds it.

Um is this the best use?

And I want him to answer that question on the record.

Is this the best use of taxpayer dollars, the 25,000, which is now the minimum threshold per year bill for anything that goes for nonprofits and small things.

So this is a big chunk to me now.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, we'll now go to uh past President White, you're recognized.

Yes, sir.

Uh through the through the trigger, I have a question if I can.

If we defer this and can we debate it a little bit, I'd like to hear from uh Gaffney myself.

I mean, I hate to do a yes vote from what I've heard here, but I hate to do a no vote if there's a good explanation.

So is there a place we can put it uh there he is.

Oh, here he is.

Good.

I was gonna say it's gonna go to finance next.

Finance next as well, so I'm glad he's here.

Okay.

Thank you.

Would you want to comment as well?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I I I just wanted some clarity on uh Councilman Freeman's concerns, and if I hear him correctly, um your concern is the use of dollars that were dedicated to traffic calming to now be used for a an oyster fest, which doesn't seem like they're in the same lane.

Just just clarify that for me.

Uh yes, sir.

I just and and I'm glad the council members here.

It seems almost as if it's a bait or switch.

Like we get the dollars set aside or appropriated to do something that is needed.

Uh obviously in certain parts of our community, cars are racing through them.

And and so it is 25 from traffic calming for district eight or other construction cost.

Uh account to the Riverview collective community.

I know the area well.

I'm just wondering how those two align.

And that's that is truly my concern.

And then not should they give the money to Orster Fest, but is there another bucket that we can find to give the money?

And so that would be the question that I would ask through the chair to Councilmember Gaffney is is this the only I wouldn't I I just hate seeing any money from 78, 9 and 10 leave infrastructure, knowing how hard your dad fought for sidewalks and everything else when the GIA, when we close that, um is there any other way that we can find money or buckets?

And I'd be fully able to willing to support if we can.

Councilmember Gaffney, you're recognized.

Thanks for joining us.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

And through the chair, I I apologize for not being here.

As a matter of fact, I didn't even know it was going to the rules committee or else I would have been here.

Uh, you know, I respect you guys' time and attention to this matter.

So please forgive me for not being here.

I was actually in the office in the meeting with Her Lena discussing some L U Z stuff for the Mar.

So they were shot up Roshanna brought it to my attention, and then that's why I immediately raced down, came down here.

But um, yeah, thank you.

So, Councilman Freeman, so I understand where you're coming from.

So, when I designated these funds to traffic coming, it was two years ago.

I had a lot of communities reaching out to me about speeding.

Um, you know, just safety measures and safety comments in terms of speed humps.

But what I have learned over the last two years, a lot of these subdivisions can't get 75%.

And they can't get the people petitions to sign for these speed and comments.

So I had some money sitting aside, and it's only 25,000.

I think we're talking about 25,000 and 300,000.

So I still got a good batch of funds left for speed and commons.

So another group approached me, um, my riverview, another group of my community.

Um, it's an educational opportunity call it Rip Oyster Fest.

Um, they had a we had an event this past Saturday where we talked we talked about oysters, the whole festival.

We had 2,000 people came out, very educational.

Um, just about the St.

John's Forever and um reserving that.

So they asked me for some funds in a way I thought as a district councilman, it was the best to remove 25,000 for those funds until this bucket of money.

So I think we still in good shape in terms of the 275,000 left and uh um speed um safety measures um funding.

No may I uh through the chair to Councilmember Gaffney.

Uh no, definitely hear your heart and appreciate that.

I guess my question was was are these the only funds that we can find to utilize for to use for this event?

One, two, uh, does this require some type of a waiver because we're direct funding an organization now to provide a service which was training of oysters?

And so are you we are now being asked to waive a code in order for these funds to go to this organization.

Um I'm just seeing I'm just I'm just trying to ensure that because you know as well as I know, once you once it happens in one district, we all start we'll start getting these phone calls of uh Councilman Gaffney did it, how can we do it?

And your pot of money is gonna be the pot of money that people are gonna say it was tapped into once.

Can we tap into it again?

So I'm just trying to make sure that we're we we have guardrails, like if this is a one-time thing you're looking to do, or are you gonna look to go back to this pot again?

And if there's and if there's a chance for any of the dollars, can we just go that route?

Yeah, so great question through the chair.

So you know, as a council member, you know, priorities and issues go change each year.

You know, next year could be small businesses, the following year could be some type of social program, and the next year could be speed humps.

A couple of years ago, like I said, it was speed humps.

I had so many organizations and so many communities calling me about speed humps.

Two years pass, we can't get the petitions, we can't get the match, we can't do this, and the funds just been sitting.

You know, so next year might be something else.

So I probably will tap into these fees next year, and it might be going to additional initi initiative.

One of the um calls I'm getting now is affordable housing.

Council McGaffner, how can you help me with affordable housing?

So I'm thinking about going into that fund again and helping out affordable housing.

So to answer your question, I will be tapping back into this funds because right now the communities are not stepping up the plate to get these 75% petition signs so I can use them for speed humps.

And and I definitely understand the challenge of that.

I just love your heart, love where you're going with it.

I'm I can't support taking it from traffic calming.

Is there a way moving forward?

And I'm done.

It's the last time I'm talking on it.

I'm gonna be voting against this, not against the Orster Fest, not against traffic calming, I'm more against the process.

Is there a way to change the title of this trust fund now?

Because if we I think it's just misleading to me personally as a council member to our citizens that when we see money put aside, uh, I'm a big believer that when you set money in trust funds, you don't sweep them.

Um that's just my own principal thought process.

Uh, and that is essentially what's happening here is money's been set aside to your point.

It is a challenge getting it.

Um is there a closer thing to speak traffic economy, like street lights or I mean, are there other things that we can do?

I don't know, but I just don't feel comfortable taking unless we change that title.

I will I wouldn't feel comfortable taking from there for this.

Yeah, so through the chair, I I I guess we could change the title.

I'm not sure.

And I'll reiterate myself.

So two or three years ago, I just put aside of some arbitrary number, $300,000 aside for speed humps.

Not knowing if I'm gonna need $300,000 for speed humps.

I just know I was getting a lot of calls at the time.

Just right when I got in office.

Two years passed, a lot of communities have not stepped up the plate.

So I would be doing a community of disservice by continuing to leave the funds in there.

Um, and we can't use it and just waiting on the community.

So if we have other needs for the community, I'm gonna move it where I feel like it's best for the community.

That's fair.

And where did what account did you get those 300,000 from?

So, and I guess that I thought that was mentioned in the um these are strategic funds.

Right.

So, you know, to the council councilman discretionary funds.

Thank you.

One next go to council member gay.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh so through the chair to m Mr.

Gaffney.

So these are coming from your uh contingency special funds, not for uh specific for speed speed uh common.

Yeah, so thank you, Councilman Gay.

So two years ago, um, these are my strategic funds, like I said, this number just arbitrary.

I just you I just removed all my strategic funds to one bucket of money to um speed humps only.

That was the only thing that was designated for.

I didn't know if I was gonna need 300,000.

I didn't know if I was gonna need 700,000.

Um, they was used for speed humps only.

The only reason I took so much because at that time I received like seven or eight calls.

Two years passed by, well, half of the community don't want it.

I went to a meeting at North Creek, and JSON JFRD, they they could reference this.

It was a fight almost broke out because when I told them that I had funds for the speed humps, they thought I was an advocate for it.

I was advocating for it.

I was just trying to help.

But half of the community don't want it, half of them do.

So what I have found out going to these meetings now, half of the community won't it, half of them don't want it.

So now it have put me in a big dilemma.

Even though I got funds set aside for it, I'm stuck in the pickle.

So now these funds just sit in.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um, um, could we appropriately legally list this as strategic initiatives of the council member versus traffic calming?

I mean, it it because it does beg the question versus the original source of this funding, um, is what he stated was was his council member strategic initiatives.

Through the to the chair, uh typically in legislation, we list the actual account name that's being used to fund.

So in this case, that's what we have listed.

Um we could add a whereas clause to explain how that account was funded using strategic dollars.

Um that would be an option.

If we could somehow in the title in that first line, put strategic uh initiatives or strategic, whatever the term is, even if it's in brackets or or perins, um, however, that is, so that people know what the original source was.

To the chair, that would need to be an additional amendment.

Okay.

If we could one second and vote on the amendment that was moved and seconded and not yet voted on, that would be very helpful.

Okay.

Uh all those in favor of the amendment that was already discussed, please signify by saying yes.

I was opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And through the chair to uh Ms.

Show, I would like to offer an amendment so that uh there's a whereas clause added that clearly indicates that these dollars were from the contingency, the special council contingency fund, and that he is appropriating these dollars in such a manner.

And I think that is consistent to how all of us have spent dollars, and then it will it will protect Councilman Gaffney from future attacks that he's taking money for infrastructure and giving it for events.

And that was my biggest concern coming up.

So thank you.

We have uh a motion and second on the Freeman Amendment.

Uh all those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

Oh, we have we have uh both before we vote.

Okay, we have past presidents.

If I can Salem, please.

These were dollars that I'm sure during the budget process.

I I think I was finance chair at the time.

You know, we we allotted these dollars, so it it's not global council contingency as is as I view it.

It's more uh and I don't know what the terminology is, but it was dollars that were signed to you or signed to him or signed to me, not a global council.

It's yes, strategic initiatives is is the word that thank you.

I think strategic initiatives is a better word.

I'm not gonna get into, but it was his strategic initiative dollars.

Okay.

If we could include that in the language.

Through the chair to the committee.

That's correct.

Councilmember Salem is correct.

Uh this the 300,000 dollars that funded the council district eight traffic calming project, 250,000 was appropriated in the budget process from the city council strategic plan set aside contingency account.

An additional 50,000 was added to that as an enhancement uh during the budget process from the special council contingency.

So both uh both were contingency accounts that funded this project.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um this will be quick through the chair.

Um 50,000.

I think it came from councilman Kevin Carico at the time.

I think he gave every council district 50,000 at the time, um, just like two years ago.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, on the amendment uh before us all those in favor, please signify by saying yes.

All those opposed, no.

The amendment passes, please roll those up.

We have a motion set.

We have a motion and second on the bill as an emergency as amended.

We have uh councilmember gay in the queue.

Uh you're recognized.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, so yes, this this I think gives it a uh clear uh path to uh so we we don't get so much uh contention from the community and the rest of the dollars.

Uh I I know a lot of your uh area there that they uh communicate with me where we can spend it, so I'll get with you on that.

Thank you.

Um and pass President Freeman and Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and Councilmember Gay just hit the nail on the head.

Uh uh we all live in close proximity with our district, so we get stopped from Chick-fil-A's uh from everything else that comes.

And so this is another one.

So thank you so much for your uh willingness to work with us on this to get it to a good place.

Thanks everybody.

Um appreciate everybody's input and uh willingness to work together on that.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

I'm a yes.

Do we have an announcement on the vote?

Seven gays, C Renees.

Thank you.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0263 as an emergency as amended.

Thank you all.

And I and through the chair, if I think I'm the last person, so I'll be quick.

So I just want to say I thank you again.

I apologize.

I would I would even have a young lady from the Orstafest to come here to talk about the um festival.

But uh, you know, like I said, it was my excuse.

Um I didn't know it was on that day.

Um I would have been here.

So uh but I appreciate it.

Thanks for coming down.

Appreciate it.

Okay, item 36, 2026 0265 is on second read.

Also 37, 2026 0267 is on second read.

Item 38, 2026, 0268.

Um we have a a deferral at the request of Councilman Salem, uh, past President Salem would like to comment.

Please.

I I asked for a deferral because I'm still fine-tuning some of the uh um the uh survey tool and everything, but I I I I'm compelled to say something else.

Um I have been astounded, and I can't say that enough over the lack of memory to 2019.

And I'm looking at Councilmember Freeman and and White and Boylan down here who were with me on what this council did during the JEA sale, stopping the sale and then rewriting their charter through the help of Councilmember Boylan who led that effort, is if the council does not have the ability to investigate some of the comments I'm hearing, just uh it's uh it's unbelievable to me.

So I I will prepare particularly for the first termers and those that have not been on the council since the need to understand the council's role and what the charter says about investigations and of the council.

So I will bring all that in two weeks.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll go next to Councilmember Boylan.

You're recognized.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, with all due respect to my colleague, Mr.

Salem.

Absolutely right.

The Charter does allow a special investigative committee.

But this charter is also very explicit that only the board of JEA has authority to deal with personnel matters.

That's black and white, one paragraph, cut and dry.

For us, uh for the special investigative committee to take a look at some of the other issues on policy and practice and business matters.

Absolutely.

Management and personnel is not one of them.

Yes, please, please go ahead.

Uh and and I don't deny what that's what it says.

We are not gonna uh take any action on any leadership at JEA.

We will provide information to the JEA board, which I think will allow them to evaluate their leadership.

That's the purpose.

We have no authority, as Councilman Boylan just said, to take any action on any personnel at J.

I couldn't agree with you more, but we can provide information that will allow them to evaluate their personnel.

And there's a big difference there.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So uh again, this is being deferred at the request of councilmember Salem.

Okay, item number 39, 2026, 0269.

I'd heard there might be an amendment on this.

Gotcha.

Uh we got a motion and do we have a second?

Uh motion second on the bill.

Uh we also have an amendment to be offered by uh past president uh Freeman, please.

Uh thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

And since this bill was filed, uh the uh jax gents have gone on to compete nationally, so there's an amendment being offered, and it's already been circulated to uh Mr.

Stapopoulos, so I think she's got it.

I don't know if if Ms.

Shell, does she send it down to you at all by any chance?

If not, I can give you a sheet of paper here.

But it's pretty wordy.

Um do you want to read it?

Would you care?

Uh I'll pass it down because I'm not gonna, or I could have uh Mr.

Councilmember Omar read it.

I mean it this deserves some like distinction.

May I, Mr.

J.

Yes, Ms.

Shell, please.

Okay, so the Freeman Amendment would add a whereas clause, which reads as follows.

Whereas in April, competing on the national stage in Dallas, Texas, at the prestigious Stomp Wars National Step Show, one of the premier step competitions in the United States.

The Jacks Gents proudly represented the state of Florida and once again demonstrated unmatched precision, discipline, and cultural artistry, earning the title of national champion for the second time.

A historic achievement that not only affirms their dominance in the art of stepping, but also elevates the reputation of these young men and positions.

The city of Jacksonville is a national leader in youth excellence, performance, and cultural expression.

What she said.

Okay.

Okay.

We have a motion on that amendment.

Do we have a second?

Second.

We have a second.

All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes.

All is opposed, no.

The amendment passes.

We have a motion and second on the bill is amended.

We have councilmember Amaro in the queue.

You recognize.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Very expeditiously.

I wonder through the sponsor of the amendment.

Would these guys come in and give us a demonstration of their skills?

They were the group of young men that were doing the stepping then.

So I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure I left shortly after you, but uh I'm pretty sure you could do it.

But I do know that they requested specifically Councilmember Pride past President Salem to join them.

So when they do come, Councilman, we're gonna have to get out there and try to step with them.

So we'll see what happens.

All right.

Thank you all.

Do we need to vote on that?

I think.

Do we?

Yeah, please.

Please please.

Oh, we did.

We finished that.

Oh.

Oh, just the amendment.

Yeah, yeah.

I wanted to.

Um you moved the bill as amended, right?

Okay.

Open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By our action, you've approved 2026 0269 as amended.

Item 40, 2026, 0270 is on second read.

Item 41, 2026, 0271.

We have a motion.

And uh second on the uh bill.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0271.

Item 42, 2026, 0272.

Looking for a motion.

We have a motion second on the bill.

See no one in the queue.

Um we have two co-sponsor ads.

I think I'm already on it.

And we have another one.

I I did in our pre-meeting.

I think I'm in there, right?

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Okay.

Uh Councilmember Gay as well, please.

All right.

Uh if you would please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

I reaction you've approved 2026 0272.

Item number 43, 2026 027 is on second read.

Item 44, 2026 0278.

We have a motion and a second on the bill.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Oh, we have uh Kennemaro, um, Councilman Omar.

Thank you, sir.

Very quickly, I want to be added.

Um, Ms.

Cornelius was at uh DA when my kids were there.

Uh so I just want to be added.

Okay, very good.

Thank you.

Also, Councilmember Boylan, you're recognized.

All right.

Please open the ballot and record your your votes.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you have approved 2026, 0278.

Item 45, 2026, 0279.

We have a motion second on the bill.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven yes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved 2026 0279.

Um if you'd also please mad me as a co-sponsor too, I missed that one.

Item 46, 2026 0280 is on second read.

Item 47, 2026 0281.

We have a motion second on the bill.

No one on the queue, please open the ballot, record your vote.

Seven Yayes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved twenty twenty-six zero two eight one.

Item forty-eight, twenty twenty-six zero two eight two.

We have a motion, second on the bill.

No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven Yayes, zero nays.

By your action, you've approved twenty twenty-six zero two eight two.

Item forty-nine, twenty twenty-six zero two eight three.

We have motion and second on the bill.

Please open the ballot and record your vote.

Seven Yayes, zero nays.

By your action you've approved twenty twenty-six zero two eight three.

Item fifty, twenty twenty-six zero two eight four.

We have a motion and second on the bill.

We have Councilmember Boylan in the queue.

You recognize.

Okay, please open the ballot and record your vote.

Two more ads there, uh, Councilmember Freeman and Gay.

Okay, please open the ballot and record your vote.

I love my dear.

Everybody vote.

Oh, seven Yes, zero and your action you have approved twenty twenty-six zero two eighty four.

Item fifty-one, twenty twenty-six zero two eighty eight is on second read.

And unless someone has something, this uh ends our meeting.

Thank you all very much.

Oh, we have we have a quick one from Council.

No, though, thank you.

Just real just real quick.

I wanted um my apologies for missing your committee this morning.

I was watching it.

Um and yes, I heard you, Councilmember Bowling, and I will I do plan on helping you uh in the next cycle.

I will tell you that I did get a call from the administration saying that they're gonna work against it, um, which I'm not sure why, because it was funds that we found, and they're saying they don't have the capacity.

Uh if anybody has any questions, I have the minutes from the last J sub advisory board meeting where before I filed a bill, I asked that advisory board, do they think we can use it?

And the administrator was there, and the answer was yes.

So something has changed from March 25th till today, and I'll leave it at that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate that clarification.

All right, we we are second time adjourned.