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TRUE Commission Spending Committee and Full Commission Meeting - May 8, 2026

City CouncilFriday, May 8, 2026
BodyJacksonville, Florida
SessionCity Council
DateFriday, May 8, 2026
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:00

We will call them meeting of the spending committee of the taxation revenue and utilization of expenditures commission.

0:12

That committee will have until 429 to conduct any business.

0:18

And we have you on the full commission agenda.

0:28

So we'll kind of use this time maybe to kind of do some brainstorming.

0:32

So all right.

0:36

So there are no presentations today.

0:52

Is that something I'm gonna have to call the mayor's office or the I mean the uh finance department?

1:00

Chair, yeah, I yes, I would uh so y'all don't prepare a variance report.

1:04

No, sir.

1:04

You just simply evaluate and audit the statements that are are presented.

1:10

Evaluate in this case review, it's a it's it's not doesn't fall to the level of an audit, but it can't review those.

1:17

So the uh review that you conduct on a quarterly basis, it is uh those are financial statements that are prepared by the finance department.

1:33

That's that's correct, okay.

1:35

And those financial statements do they conform to the format of the budget or do they conform to the format of the ACFR?

1:44

To the budget.

1:46

The budget it's it's it's it's the cash, it's a basically it's a mostly it's a cash basis statement.

1:53

So you would have you would have original budget or revised budget in whichever case it be actual expenditures projections and a variance or the positive or so if we're for instance and so you're in the process of reviewing quarterly financial statements for the city.

2:13

Is that correct?

2:14

That's correct.

2:14

We're in the current fiscal year.

2:16

We're in the process of reviewing the second quarter of this current fiscal year.

2:20

Okay, so we march 30 years.

2:22

So the budget that was approved last September.

2:25

We have the uh financial statements that were reviewed by your office and as of December 31st of 2025 2025, and you were in the process of reviewing the financial statements for the quarter ending March 31st, 2026.

2:43

That's correct.

2:44

And what would be the status of that review?

2:47

By ordinance, we have to um have the have the review completed and report issued by the 15th of May.

2:56

So a week from Friday.

2:58

So we will have that information available by the June meeting.

3:03

Yes, and well it'll it'll of course it'll go out, and then I th I believe Pauline forwards the reports to you guys, maybe um anyway.

3:12

It'll be it'll be posted, yes.

3:15

All right, and and just there anywhere that the city budget is in an Excel spreadsheet, or is it all in hard copy?

3:28

Would with the finance department prepare it in an Excel spreadsheet?

3:33

It's uh it's it's in a it's not an well, yes, it's it's uh excel spreadsheet format, I believe.

3:40

Okay, all right.

3:41

So I'm gonna start there.

3:43

Can you please request the uh budget for fiscal year 2026 that was approved by city council in September of 2025 from the finance department and then so the report that they submit submitted at the end of December, it should match the format of the actual approved budget, or is it gonna be in the format of the ACFR?

4:21

It's gonna be in the in the uh quarterly summary format.

4:25

Um, which doesn't match the budget.

4:29

Well, it'll agree to it.

4:31

It's just in a different a little bit different format.

4:33

You've got balance sheet information at the top, and then you have uh income statement information in the middle.

4:39

So they they provide you with their with the budget, and then they provide you with the financial statements for the quarter end.

4:48

Well, what what does this what is the finance department send to the council auditory's office?

4:53

What they send is um don't have copy of the uh quarterly summary, but what they send us, and it's a uh for example, it'd be one a department would be on one sheet of basic paper.

4:59

Uh, but it's a it's uh it's in an Excel spreadsheet.

5:13

When you print it out, it's just one page for each department for each department.

5:17

Uh sheriff's office might be two, you know, as big as they are.

5:20

However, um, on the first the top of each page of the quarterly summary, the financials, um, is balance sheet information.

5:30

Now that wouldn't be in the budget because budget is not balance sheet information, it's just expenditures and revenues.

5:37

Um, then you have uh three columns.

5:43

By this time you it'll say revised budget, it won't be original budget.

5:50

Okay, that is that document is the original budget as adopted in September of last year, plus any additional appropriations or reductions that have been done by council action.

6:05

Correct.

6:05

Okay, so that's our revised budget.

6:07

That's your revision, and that is sort of a work in process throughout the year, yes.

6:11

Okay, and then you based on that revised budget, then you do your review of the quarterly financial statements, correct?

6:20

Okay, um, and you have revised um and then um you have a column for the actuals actuals through six month first six months, and then you have um projections, what they're projecting the end of the year at, then you have a variance of whether it's going to be favorable or unfavorable to that specific line item for the for the the end of the year.

6:49

So they project a variance, either positive or negative through the end of the fiscal year.

6:58

They do that every quarter, correct.

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Animal Welfare1%
Summary of Proceedings

TRUE Commission Spending Committee and Full Commission Meeting - May 8, 2026

Note: The meeting transcript references Thursday, May 7, 2026, while the provided date is May 8, 2026. This summary uses the provided date but notes the discrepancy.

The Taxation Revenue and Utilization of Expenditures (TRUE) Commission met in two sessions: a Spending Committee meeting (2:00–4:29 PM) and a Full Commission meeting (4:30 PM onward). The Spending Committee focused on understanding the city's quarterly financial reporting process, while the Full Commission received audit reports, heard public comment, discussed bylaw amendments, and addressed member attendance issues.

Spending Committee Discussion

  • The committee reviewed the process for quarterly financial statement reviews conducted by the Council Auditor's Office. The review covers the second quarter ending March 31, 2026, with a report due by May 15, 2026, and will be available for the June commission meeting.
  • The committee discussed the format of financial statements: they are prepared on a cash basis, include balance sheet and income statement information, and are compared to a revised budget (original budget plus council-approved changes). Departments provide narratives explaining variances.
  • The Council Auditor's Office issues a report (about 5–6 pages of narrative plus a ~100-page packet) that is posted online. The committee requested copies of the first quarter (December 2025) and year-end (fiscal year 2025) reports.
  • Concerns were raised about the timeliness of audited financial statements. The city's independent audit for fiscal year ending September 30, 2025, is due by June 2026, but the city has historically requested budget amendments due to delays. The Council Auditor noted that the city often waits for financial statements from independent authorities (e.g., JTA) before completing its own ACFR.
  • The committee discussed the inefficiency of the city's financial reporting and the need for better access to budget data in a usable format (e.g., Excel).
  • A proposal was made to compare Jacksonville's finances with other consolidated city-county governments (e.g., Nashville) or with Florida counties and their municipalities. Members volunteered to research municipalities in Hillsborough, Pinellas, and Orange counties to enable an apples-to-apples comparison.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • John Nooney (Jacksonville resident, City Council District 4, CPAC 3, School Board District 3) attempted to speak on matters not on the agenda (e.g., a parks trust fund, Northeast Florida Regional Council, Emerald Trail). The Chair ruled his comments out of order per the commission's bylaws, which limit public comment to agenda items. After several exchanges, Mr. Nooney was given time to speak but continued on topics not on the agenda. The Chair eventually ended his comments.
  • Vice Chair Barr and Commissioner Bass expressed support for amending the bylaws to allow public comment on any topic for two minutes, arguing it would be more efficient and avoid lengthy arguments. Commissioner Roundsville agreed with the two-minute limit but preferred comments be related to city government. The Chair noted that a formal amendment would be presented at a future meeting with a quorum.

Discussion Items

  • Audit Report 903 – Clerk of Courts (Tax Deed Process): The Council Auditor presented findings from an audit of the Clerk of Courts' tax deed process. Overall, fees were assessed and collected correctly, and minimum bids and sales proceeds distributions were generally accurate. However, issues were found with the distribution of surplus funds: out of 150 tested applications with $888,127 in surplus, 2.4% had errors totaling $7,604.50. Supplemental testing of 3,924 applications identified 185 additional applications with $50,955 in undistributed surpluses past the date for remittance to the state. The Clerk's office lacked proper policies and procedures, and 15 employees had unnecessary edit access to the tax deed system.
  • Audit Report 904 – Purchasing Card (P-Card) Audit: The audit covered calendar year 2024 transactions. Overall, transactions were appropriate, but several issues were found: lack of written policies for some tasks, lack of reconciliation of P-card expenses to bank reimbursements, 22 additional merchant category codes that should be blocked, 202 transactions ($94,000) not recorded in the financial system as of April 2025 (with 45 transactions totaling $10,946 still unsupported as of June 2025), P-cards of former employees not canceled timely, and many transactions not processed within required timeframes. Three out of 206 tested transactions ($914) were not properly authorized. The city agreed to address the findings.
  • Public Comment Bylaw Amendment: Vice Chair Barr proposed amending Article 9 of the bylaws to allow public comment on any topic for two minutes, arguing it would be more efficient than lengthy arguments about relevance. Commissioner Bass and Roundsville supported the change. The Chair noted the amendment cannot be voted on without a quorum and requested a redlined version for the next meeting.
  • Commission Member Attendance and Vacancies: The Chair reported that two members (Ms. Pryor and Mr. Hoffman) have four unexcused absences, exceeding the two-of-three-meetings limit. The Chair interpreted the city ordinance as requiring the commission to declare the seats vacant. Discussion ensued about the process: the commission must vote to declare the seats vacant, which then starts the process for the relevant CPACs to nominate replacements. The Chair recommended placing this as the first item on the June agenda. Commissioner Roundsville noted her own term may have expired and she would seek reappointment. The commission also discussed the need to track all members' term expiration dates.
  • Future Meeting Schedule and Guest Speakers: The commission agreed to invite the Finance Director (Ms. Brochet) to the June meeting to answer questions about financial reporting. The July meeting is canceled. In August, the Port Authority CEO (Eric Green) is invited. In September, the Jacksonville Aviation Authority will be invited. Commissioner Bass also requested a representative from JAXPORT for August.

Key Outcomes

  • Audit Reports Accepted: The commission received and discussed Audit Reports 903 (Clerk of Courts – Tax Deeds) and 904 (P-Card). No formal vote was taken; the reports were presented for information.
  • Bylaw Amendment on Public Comment: A redlined version of Article 9 (allowing two minutes for public comment on any topic) will be prepared for the June meeting. No action can be taken without a quorum.
  • Declaration of Vacancies: The Chair intends to place a motion to declare the seats of Ms. Pryor and Mr. Hoffman vacant as the first item on the June agenda, citing four unexcused absences. The commission will need a quorum (six members) to act. The Chair will seek an opinion from the Office of General Counsel on the process.
  • Future Meeting Schedule and Guest Speakers:
    • June 4, 2026: Finance Director (Ms. Brochet) invited to discuss financial reporting.
    • July 2026: No meeting.
    • August 2026: Port Authority CEO (Eric Green) invited.
    • September 2026: Jacksonville Aviation Authority invited.
  • Research Project: Members volunteered to identify municipalities within Hillsborough (Chair), Pinellas (Commissioner Bass), and Orange (Commissioner Roundsville) counties to enable a comparative financial analysis with Jacksonville. Results to be reported to the commission.
  • Bylaw Amendment: A redlined version of Article 9 (public comment) will be prepared for the June meeting.
  • Declaration of Vacancies: The Chair will place a motion to declare the seats of Ms. Pryor and Mr. Hoffman vacant as the first item on the June agenda, pending a quorum. The commission will also seek an opinion from the Office of General Counsel on the process.
  • Future Meeting Schedule: The next meeting is Thursday, June 4, 2026. No meeting in July. The August meeting will include the Port Authority.

Meeting Transcript

We will call them meeting of the spending committee of the taxation revenue and utilization of expenditures commission. That committee will have until 429 to conduct any business. And we have you on the full commission agenda. So we'll kind of use this time maybe to kind of do some brainstorming. So all right. So there are no presentations today. Is that something I'm gonna have to call the mayor's office or the I mean the uh finance department? Chair, yeah, I yes, I would uh so y'all don't prepare a variance report. No, sir. You just simply evaluate and audit the statements that are are presented. Evaluate in this case review, it's a it's it's not doesn't fall to the level of an audit, but it can't review those. So the uh review that you conduct on a quarterly basis, it is uh those are financial statements that are prepared by the finance department. That's that's correct, okay. And those financial statements do they conform to the format of the budget or do they conform to the format of the ACFR? To the budget. The budget it's it's it's it's the cash, it's a basically it's a mostly it's a cash basis statement. So you would have you would have original budget or revised budget in whichever case it be actual expenditures projections and a variance or the positive or so if we're for instance and so you're in the process of reviewing quarterly financial statements for the city. Is that correct? That's correct. We're in the current fiscal year. We're in the process of reviewing the second quarter of this current fiscal year. Okay, so we march 30 years. So the budget that was approved last September. We have the uh financial statements that were reviewed by your office and as of December 31st of 2025 2025, and you were in the process of reviewing the financial statements for the quarter ending March 31st, 2026. That's correct. And what would be the status of that review? By ordinance, we have to um have the have the review completed and report issued by the 15th of May. So a week from Friday. So we will have that information available by the June meeting. Yes, and well it'll it'll of course it'll go out, and then I th I believe Pauline forwards the reports to you guys, maybe um anyway. It'll be it'll be posted, yes. All right, and and just there anywhere that the city budget is in an Excel spreadsheet, or is it all in hard copy? Would with the finance department prepare it in an Excel spreadsheet? It's uh it's it's in a it's not an well, yes, it's it's uh excel spreadsheet format, I believe. Okay, all right. So I'm gonna start there. Can you please request the uh budget for fiscal year 2026 that was approved by city council in September of 2025 from the finance department and then so the report that they submit submitted at the end of December, it should match the format of the actual approved budget, or is it gonna be in the format of the ACFR? It's gonna be in the in the uh quarterly summary format. Um, which doesn't match the budget. Well, it'll agree to it. It's just in a different a little bit different format. You've got balance sheet information at the top, and then you have uh income statement information in the middle. So they they provide you with their with the budget, and then they provide you with the financial statements for the quarter end. Well, what what does this what is the finance department send to the council auditory's office? What they send is um don't have copy of the uh quarterly summary, but what they send us, and it's a uh for example, it'd be one a department would be on one sheet of basic paper. Uh, but it's a it's uh it's in an Excel spreadsheet. When you print it out, it's just one page for each department for each department. Uh sheriff's office might be two, you know, as big as they are. However, um, on the first the top of each page of the quarterly summary, the financials, um, is balance sheet information. Now that wouldn't be in the budget because budget is not balance sheet information, it's just expenditures and revenues.

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