Good morning, everyone.

We'll go ahead and get started with the Tuesday, June 2nd meeting of the Transportation Energy and Utilities Committee.

We'll go ahead and get started with introductions to my left.

Good morning, Bill Delaney, Mayor's Office.

Stephen Lippy, Council Research.

Carla Shell, Office of General Counsel.

Edward Lindsky, Council Auditor's Office.

Kenamar, City Council, District 1.

Reginald Gaffin's Junior, District 8.

Lane and District 3.

Carlucci, City Councilman District, or At Large Group 4.

Good morning, Tyrona Clark Murray, District 9.

And happy summer to all the teachers because it has started.

Alright.

Congratulations on another successful school year for all involved.

Fairly light agenda today.

I'll go through it real quick.

Uh item one is 2026 0358.

That has been deferred.

2026 379.

We'll have a public hearing open and closed and then take action on that.

I know uh Ms.

Hunter as well as planning and a representative of the church are in the audience if we have questions on that one.

Item three, Council Member Morrow's Bill 2026, 0389.

Item 4, 2026 0390, we'll amend and then take action on that.

Items 5 and 6, 2026, 0391 and 0393.

We will uh take action on five, then we'll amend and take action on item six and item seven, twenty twenty six zero three nine four.

We'll take action on that.

Uh I will note we actually have no items on second read.

So our next meeting uh we will either meet to further uh defer 2026 or take uh 0358 or to take action on that one.

Uh with that, do I have any public comment cards?

Okay, our first public comment card is Carnell Oliver, and you have two minutes.

Please come and speak to an item on the agenda.

Uh yes, my name is Carnell.

Address is on file.

Uh what I'm gonna speak to as a summary is uh to 2026-0390.

That's the first issue, and the other bill is uh Mr.

Ken Nomero's bill dealing with mobility fees.

Um, in the direction of this city, I believe that infrastructure should be represented by the people of specific neighborhoods and community, and that's where the failures of consolidation has failed a lot of people.

For example, the jurisdiction of those uh scooters, the parking lot, stay within the jurisdictions of downtown.

Why can we not bring back the old city limits?

Why don't we bring back the power to the people?

Because I'm gonna tell you something.

Underneath this system, it has not served black American communities very fairly.

I'm giving you the evidence and the exhibits so that you can understand my point.

We have mobility fees that are isolated downtown, but we have road command traffic countywide, but y'all fight for resources for your individual districts, and the ones that are foundational to this country are the ones that get left behind.

We get the crimes off the table.

And as an indigenous black American, I am written in the Constitution.

I feel like we need our own mobile, we need our own impact fee.

For all the damage that we went through from 1965 dealing with immigration, we have not gotten the investments in human capital within my own community.

Infrastructure.

Thank you, Mr.

Oliver.

I have one other speaker card who does not wish to speak.

Matthew Marshall and his comments were third-party water billing, lack of clear state and local regulations.

Sir, you do wish to are you Matthew Marshall?

Yes, sir.

Okay, you did check.

I do not wish to speak.

Come on up.

You get two minutes.

Uh, and ideally, it is on something that is on our agenda somewhere.

I specifically asked the lady that I spoke to that it wasn't specifically on the agenda, and I do apologize.

Okay, well we'll give you your two minutes.

We've got a pretty light agenda.

Go ahead, sir.

My concern is third party billing by landlords specifically.

And sir, I'm sorry, can you start with your name and address just so we've got on the road?

My name is Matthew Marshall.

I live at 754 Henley Court, Jacksonville, Florida.

Thank you.

And my concern is third-party billing by uh like conservatives and landlords.

Um I'm currently there's no real regulation based on this, it's really a vague area.

And can you guys actually implement some laws that help the uh citizens of Jacksonville better have a you know way to get to retribution for uh illegal billing?

Sorry it's not clear, but I didn't expect to be speaking so quickly.

Um because like right now, I received it a year ago.

I received a water bill for um almost twelve hundred dollars out of nowhere, and I still haven't got it resolved, and I went through every avenue I could, so that is why I'm here.

So that's all I have to say, but it's just not fair.

Okay, thank you, sir.

With that, no more public comment.

We do have a public hearing card when we get to that item.

Uh we'll start at the top of the agenda.

And I'm sorry, I'd like to recognize Miss Jacoby Pittman has joined us here this morning.

Good morning, Jacoby.

Uh, one twenty twenty-six-0358.

That item is deferred.

Item two, twenty twenty-six three seven nine.

I'm going to open the public hearing.

I do have one speaker card, Reverend Charlie Holt.

Uh, coming up, sir, if you wish to speak.

Good morning.

Uh Charlie Holt.

I'm the rector of St.

Mark's Episcopal Church, and uh we're proposing to abandon a section of Ionic Avenue and Ortiga.

And the primary reason is as we own both sides of that section of Ionic, and we're wanting to work on our master planning and make our campus safe, primarily for children and youth, uh, and having roads running through a campus uh creates uh unsafe environment.

It's uh um there's a precedent for closing roads on our campus.

We've had the Oxford Avenue um uh abandoned as well as Dorick Avenue even before that, and so this is just part of that same master planning for our campus.

I'm available for questions too.

Thank you, sir.

I'm going to close the public hearing.

Okay, get a motion on the bill.

I got a motion, second on the bill.

Councilmember Amara, you're recognized.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Chair uh Reverend Holt.

Uh Reverend Holt, would you please come back to uh uh through the chair to our Reverend Holt.

Um there are a couple of adjacent businesses next to uh the school.

How will this closing impact them?

They have act you're talking about Ortiga Village.

Yeah, and the their primary access for Ortiga villages through Corinthian, and uh we we pr really do not want uh business traffic going through the church and school campus.

So the question is they're not gonna be impacted through the chair.

Correct.

Okay.

Um the school and that uh uh the the adjacent business.

I mean they've been there forever in a day, so they've kind of coexisted.

Uh the traffic has been um ongoing.

I presume that based on your earlier remarks through the chair, that there's uh going to be some work done uh to expand the campus and and justifies the needs for this road closing.

That's correct.

We we have a multi-phase master plan that we're working on, and uh this gives us the flexibility to have that canvas to be able to create buildings that are more adjacent to our existing buildings so that we don't have pedestrian traffic having to cross uh a vehicular traffic road in order to get to various buildings on our campus and trying to keep cars and people separate from one another is the main goal here.

Um, but we do want to maintain the the um look and feel of the neighborhood we we are part of the historic nature of the neighborhood and um hundred-year-old church so we're everything that we do is in in keeping with with the heart of that you recognize morning and thank you for being here I just wanted to confirm um regarding a safety issue as well if you can talk just a little bit more about that and what type of support that you have from the community um if this master plan is implemented.

Yes the we are a campus that has um active youth program and a campus that has an elementary school on our campus and so one of the a prior example is the Ortiga I mean the Oxford Avenue uh abandonment that basically unified the school and the church buildings so that there could be green space instead of a road going through we have the same situation with our youth center and our existing buildings and then the desire to to bring more supporting children's and youth buildings and structures closer to the adult um programming space and so we have the support of our you know the school the church the and the families um to do this okay and I just want to what phase of this of your master plan is this the the last part of the first part where are you all in the completion of your master plan we we are in um early stages of phase one okay the what we're contemplating at the moment will not actually um change ionic road um so that would be a future phase the the decision of the city on on whether we have the right to you know the right to that um abandonment will help us in planning those second and third phases um but right now we we don't we don't have the ability to plan uh okay so it would definitely help in terms of continuity of both sides of the property and align with the bigger vision um that you all and your um members uh would like to do that's correct okay all right thank you very much councilmember carlicci uh thank you uh mr chair i just uh wanted to say uh that i um received a text from well i got a call from former council member defore yesterday and i couldn't take the call because i was on another call and so she sent me a text and said um she knew that we would be concerned about neighborhood support and so forth and um the neighborhood was fully supported there was one person that was not for a particular reason and and um and I know knew what that reason was and it really wasn't as far as I can tell it was more for another reason than the actual uh reason that the I've watched this church by the way because I had some family that was member of the church uh there um I've watched them grow and um and so I'm a little familiar with this and I think it's be a good move for the church, and I fully support it.

Uh but um when council member defore uh called me uh, you know, she just wanted me to know what the feeling was in the neighborhood, because her being a district council person, she knew that we would be sensitive to uh want to know what that might temperature might be there, and um and and uh we all uh whether we always agreed with Councilmember DeFor.

We never ever had any reason to doubt her honesty and her integrity.

Um, and so I appreciated what she communicated to me yesterday, and um so I fully support this 100% and Saint Mark's has been that church has been like it's it's it's an iconic church in this community, uh particularly on that part of town, and um and uh the family our our family that was actually uh um my mother's um late husband, um Major McCraight, his family was uh members there, and um, and so uh at any rate uh it's it's it's a um it's been a wonderful contributor to Jacksonville.

I appreciate uh the minister being here today.

Uh I just want to let the my colleagues know on the council uh you know what I had heard from our former colleague uh council member DeFor.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And uh I I fully plan on supporting this as well.

I did want to, since it's on the agenda, uh note that the planning development department discourages the closure due to its location within the boundaries of old Ortea National Register Historical District.

Uh, but my assumption is that this was any other part of town that was not a historic district.

Uh we would not have that there.

Uh and again, sounds like we have the community support.

This is going to help the church uh grow and expand.

So uh I will be supporting this as well.

I have no one in the queue open the ballot, record your vote.

Six years, you're on A's.

By our actions, we have passed 2026 0379.

Thank you, Reverend, for joining us this morning.

Item three, 2026 0389.

Can I give a motion?

Got a motion second.

Uh council member Marr.

Do you want to speak to your bill?

No, sir.

I have no in the queue.

Open the ballot, record your vote.

Six years, zero and nays.

By our actions, we have passed 2026 0389.

Item 4, 2026 0390.

Can I get a motion on the amendment?

Got a motion to second on the amendment.

Mr.

Linsky, please explain it to us.

The chair to the committee.

Uh, the amendment before you today is technical in nature and just attaches revised CIP sheets and then also correct Scribner's items within the bill.

Thank you.

All those in favor of the amendment, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say nay.

Passes.

Got a motion second on the bill as amended, known in the queue, open the ballot, record your vote.

Six years, zero nays.

Our actions we have passed 2026 0390.

And for those in the audience or watching, I did want to point out every bill we're taken up till the end of the agenda.

Has already gone through at least one other committee and has been a unanimous vote.

So that is why uh there's been limited discussion on these here today.

Item five, 2026 0391.

Got motion second on the bill, known in the queue.

Open the ball, record your vote.

Six years, you're on a's by our actions we pass 2026 there 391.

Item 6, 2026 393.

Got motion and second on the amendment on the amendment, Mr.

Linsky, please explain it.

Through the chair to the committee, the amendment attaches the amended contract agreement that expresses the increase in the amount that's going to be delivered to the city.

This just checks the box for the municipal code.

Thank you, Mr.

Linsky.

All those in favor of the amendment, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed say nay.

Amendment passes.

Got a motion and second on the bill as amended known in the queue, open the ballot, record your vote.

Six years, your and a's.

By our actions, we pass 2026 393.

Item seven, 2026 394.

Got a motion, second on the bill, known in the queue.

Open the ballot, record your vote.

Six years, zero and a's by our actions, we have passed 2026 0394.

No other items on the agenda, nothing on second read.

Your motivation to come here in two weeks is to get your end of year chairs gifts, if nothing else.

Anyone on the committee have anything?

All right, we are adjourned.

Thank you.