Yeah.

All right, it's four o'clock on call today's finance administration council committee meeting to order.

Um please record your attendance.

We have five present.

We do have a quorum.

Um next up is approval minutes from the Friday, December 5th, 2025 special meeting and the Tuesday, December 9th, 2025 meeting.

Move to approve both sets unless there's no to change.

Second.

Motion second.

Any question or comments on the minutes as presented.

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to approve the minutes.

I'll have to do each one separately.

Okay, that's fine.

First vote will be to approve the December 5th meeting minutes.

No, he got it.

Okay.

All right.

The next vote will be on the December 9th meeting.

Oh, today we intend.

All right, we'll move into new business.

There's a lot of municipal liens on the agenda, so I'll just read those by title only.

Um first up resolution 25202.

Resolution by the city council, city of Jonesburg, Arkansas to place municipal lien on property located at 1617 Rich Road, Parcel 01-143252-2500, owned by Randolph and Judith Rynolds in the amount of 275 dollars.

I move forward to full council.

Second.

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to approve resolution 25202.

Resolution 25203, resolution by the city council of the city of Jones for Arkansas, to place municipal lien on property located at 2009, Timber Ridge Drive, Parcel 01-143-231-1720.

Owned by Brian D.

Maudshine Maud Sheen in the amount of 275 dollars.

Any recommendations on how I should read the parcel numbers.

I know.

Scattered.

All right, resolution 25204.

Resolution by City Council of the City of Johnsburg, Arkansas to place municipal line on property located at 3104 Parkwood, parcel 01-144-281-23800, owned by Michael R.

and Sandra Beagler in the amount of 275 dollars.

Move forward full counsel.

Second.

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward 25204 to full council.

All right, resolution 25205.

Resolution by City Council of the City of Jones for Arkansas.

On Granger, Parcel 01-144-082-05-020, owned by Jerry Delaney in the amount of 275 dollars.

Move forward full counsel.

Second.

Most second forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this item?

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward the full council.

Resolution 25206.

Resolution by the city council, city of Jonesburg, Arkansas, place municipal lien on property located at 1400.

The amount of 315 dollars.

Moving forward full counsel.

Second.

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward the full council.

Resolution 25207.

Resolution by City Council, City of Jonesburg, Arkansas.

Place municipal line on property located at 2410 West Acre, Parcel 01-144-272-22100.

On by more units real estate, LLC in the amount of 315.

Move forward full council.

Second.

Ocean second forward full council.

Any questions or comments on this agenda item?

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Resolution 25208.

Resolution by the city council of City of Jonesville, Arkansas place municipal line on property located at 3806 School Street, Parcel 01-144-272-1650.

Owned by Ogla Hernandez in the amount of 275 dollars.

Moving forward full council.

Second.

Motion second forward full counsel.

Any questions or comments on this item?

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward the full council.

Resolution 25209.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas, to place the municipal line on property located at 200 West Woodrow, Parcel 01-144, 073-23600, owned by Prince Michael Bobbitt and Dania in the amount of 965 dollars.

Moving forward to full council.

Second.

Most second forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this item?

Not please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Resolution 25210.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesville, Arkansas, place municipal lane on property located at 1317 HAFCOT, Parcel 01-143-121-048000, owned by Joseph Clark and Helena Sykes in the amount of 275 dollars.

Moving forward to full council.

Second.

Most second forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this item?

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Resolution 25211.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesville, Arkansas, to place municipal lien on property located at 2612 Profit Parcels 01-144-273-02300 on by Randy and Allie Crawford at the amount of 275 dollars.

Move forward full counsel.

Second.

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward resolution 25211 to full council.

Resolution 25212.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas, to place municipal lien on property located at 2020 Lauterette Drive, Parcel 01-144-321-08500 on by professional communication services of Jonesboro, the amount of 465 dollars.

Moving forward to full council.

Second.

Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Resolution 25213.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesville, Arkansas, to place municipal lien on property located at 2701 Kirkview, parcel 01-144-273-04400 owned by Jesse and James Harrell in the amount of 275 dollars.

Moving forward to full counsel.

Second.

Motion second forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this agenda item?

Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Resolution 25214.

Resolution by City Council of the City of Jonesville, Arkansas, to place municipal lien on property located at 1821 Brookhaven, parcel 01-143-243-04700.

On by Regents Bank, DBA Regions Mortgage in the amount of 275 dollars.

Move forward to full council.

Second.

Motion saving forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this agenda item?

Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council.

Right, and our last municipal lien is resolution 25215.

Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesville, Arkansas to place municipal lien on property located at 3707 Ashley Cove, Parcel 01-134-032-06600.

Owned by Scott Woods, the amount of $275.

Move forward to full council.

Second.

Motion second forward to full council.

Any questions or comments on this item?

If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward the full council.

All right.

The next resolution I will read in its entirety, which I know makes you all very happy.

Um resolution 25217.

Resolution of the City, a resolution of the City of Jonesville, Arkansas authorizing the mayor to enter into an agreement with Axon Incorporated for prepared assist communication services for Jonesboro emergency services.

To provide prepared assist communication services to a dispatch and handling calls and radio traffic and to ensure quality and consistency in the protocols and information provided in costs.

In addition, this product will perform translation services to aid dispatch and providing real time assistance for persons for whom English is not their first language, and we'll transcribe the conversations in real time for the dispatchers to better understand the emergency, and whereas said agreement is attached here to and terms set out therein.

Therefore, be it resolved by the city council for the city of Jonesville, Arkansas.

That number one, the city of Jonesboro approves and approves the agreement with Axon Incorporated to provide to provide prepared assist communication services for Jones for emergency emergency services at the term of the agreement shall be for a period of three years, and the payment taxon incorporated shall be 211,565 for the first year and 199,665 dollars for the two subsequent years.

Including the scope of services to be provided are set out in the attachment.

Number two, the that the agreement has already been approved by the Craig Head County 911 board.

Three, that there is no requirement to bid this agreement because Axon Incorporated is on the NASBO state contract list.

Number four, the mayor Harold Copenhaver and City Clerk April Leggett are hereby authorized by the city council for the City of Jonesboro to execute all documents necessary to effectuate this agreement.

Move forward to full council.

Second.

Motion second to forward to forward to full council, and I would like the record to reflect that Dr.

Anthony Coleman is now present.

Any questions or comments regarding this resolution?

The co only question I have, Mr.

Chairman is I was just trying to get some clarity on this as I don't I'm not in this line of work.

Just so the translation is a feature.

Um and then also just trying to understand says handling calls and radio traffic to ensure quality consistency.

Can you just touch on a little bit about how that how it's different from now?

I mean, obviously the translation piece, but other than that, absolutely.

Thank you so much, Dr.

I mean, I'm sorry, Mr.

Councilman McLean.

Don't give them a big head.

Come on, man.

Come on back, Councilman McLean.

Um this is technology, AI technology that uh I'll be honest with you up until last year didn't exist.

Uh what it's going to do is handle all of our incoming nine more um uh non-emergency calls.

It will take those calls, it will determine uh number one if those calls need to be rerouted to a different department or agency, and it will automatically reroute those calls uh if it needs to go to the 911 dispatcher, some of the non-emerge what we call non-emergency calls that come in uh do translate into emergency calls.

Okay, they're actually 911 calls and should be transferred to them.

So it will take those calls and route those straight to the dispatcher.

This does not it's not handling the 911 calls, it does not take those calls and reroute those.

Those are still answered by a live 911 dispatcher.

Um we handle uh we receive uh can't remember the exact numbers approximately uh 90 something thousand non-emergency calls.

Uh and what this does are those calls are overwhelming our 911 dispatchers to the point that they have to answer those calls, and sometimes it's calls just I need this rerouted, or I need to know about a warrant I have, or I need to talk to the jail.

Uh it's gonna automatically take those calls.

The dispatcher will never even hear those.

It will answer 100% of those calls.

Uh, we currently use a call tree, uh, an automated answering system that if you want to talk to the county jail, press such and such that works sometimes, but uh only about 40 percent, 30 to 40 percent of those that come in, they want to punch that number, they'll wait and still talk to a 911 dispatcher, and they say, Well, we need to talk to the county jail, and then our dispatcher has to handle that.

What it's doing is taking those non-emergency calls and tying up dispatchers that should be handling emergency calls.

That is one segment of it.

That's just one feature that they provide.

That's the what we call the call taking assistive side of it.

There's also uh the translation side that what we're faced with right now is our translation service.

We do have a translation service.

Uh we timed one the other day just to see how long it takes.

Uh the dispatcher got the translator on the phone, took about 30 seconds.

By the time that translator was trying to translate and get all the information back to the dispatcher, uh, that call ended up taking nine minutes before the dispatcher got all the information they need out of that translation service.

What this does is real time automatically translates all those calls.

Uh and this includes nine one one calls.

Back and forth conversation or just on one side where I the dispatchers can hear um are you talking about this, this or this yes, just uh how does it work?

Because I know there's some stuff out there that you can I can see it, but the other person can't I can't say anything back.

No, this is real time for both ends.

Okay.

Someone calls dispatch, they speak a foreign language.

As soon as they start speaking, the system recognizes that language.

I think it recognizes something like eighty something languages.

So it will recognize that language and the dispatcher will automatically see it in the text format in front of them.

It translates it for the dispatcher real time.

Not having to call a translator, but that dispatcher is there, the call taker's talking to them, they're seeing what they're saying.

The dispatcher speaks back over the phone and it translates their voice into text for that person in their language.

So it's all going on real time, so there's no delay based on the translation.

Uh the transcription side of it provides live transcription uh of all those what what happened on that call, what was said, so that can be posted right into the records and documented.

Uh the dispatch assistive side of it actually takes all the radio traffic and transcribes that in front of the dispatcher.

Sometimes uh, you know, officers will be out there in a windy condition or whatever.

They're talking to us, the dispatcher's having difficulty understanding what they're saying, it's transcribing it in real time right in front of the dispatcher.

So they're getting that information.

Um I I could go on and on and on.

There's so many features that exist with this, and again, this is technology that didn't exist.

Uh it's very impressive.

Uh if you ever watch the demos, it it's just so impressive to see.

And it will save our dispatchers a lot of time and let them focus on what they need to focus on, which are 911 calls.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

I have another question.

Connor different from that.

Your power system, what goes happens if your power system goes down?

What kind of backup do we have?

I'm sorry.

What kind of backup do we power system do we have?

At the dispatch center?

There's two things that happen.

First of all, we're we're on a UPS system on a uninterrupted power supply that instantly, and I mean in a fraction of a second.

If the power goes down within a fraction of a second, all of our systems are still by they're still running.

It stays up.

That UPS system holds that uh and keeps it up uh I think up to like 30 minutes until our our generator kicks on within generally within 15 seconds, 10 to 15 seconds, but uh even faster than that actually, but the UPS system holds it and doesn't let it go down until we make sure that that generator is kicked on and powering the the center.

I guess other part of that question uh I guess because I've never heard the relationship of keeping that power system up or financial wise.

How do we handle that?

How do we pay for it?

It's budgeted in every year.

Uh the UPS system was a system that was purchased.

Uh the system we that we put in now powers the entire equipment, the entire center, basically all the equipment.

I think that was put into the budget year before last when we installed that that ran through the IT department, and what we utilized up until that time were small UPS boxes that each system, like each radio had one, the phone system.

They had all these small little UPS systems that um we've incorporated into one system that powers it all now.

That's good.

I I just want to know that that had always bothered me if something goes down in an emergency or Tony or Absolutely, you know.

If it goes down the power of the UPS system kicks in it's up and running and then the generator kicks in and it's up and running so we test those systems all the time the generator and the UPS system and so we we have to make sure we don't go down.

We can't go down in our business.

Great question.

Thank you.

Dr.

Anthony Coman had something first real quick real quick um I I going back to piggyback off of McLean's uh question.

Yes sir software is is well it's not software but that program is is quite impressive just hearing about it but I do have a question you said 100% and so I'm into numbers so when you said 100% I want to know how um just give me a layman's term if I call how would that system know that I'm non-emergent well the the number you call in on it's based on the number if I call 911 right okay I think we have several non-emergency lines that come into the center uh and if you call one of those lines that actually we have to by law we have to publish a number that's a non-emergency number that comes into the center uh so that people can call the 911 center for a non-emergency uh also to to that point all of our alarm companies the monitoring companies well if you have a you know an alarm at your house let's say it's um a dt security system and it's monitored that doesn't happen in Jonesville that monitoring system like for ATT may come from Denver Colorado.

Well if they call 911 it's gonna go to Denver Colorado it's not gonna come here.

So we have they have to be provided those numbers that will those not emergency numbers that they call in on and so forth.

But it handles a hundred percent of all costs coming into the the center yes sir agreed thank you yes sir Emerson thank you Mr.

Starch I had a quick question for you the current translation service that we're currently using how long do you think that we're gonna keep that on the books after we get this system put into place we are told uh what we're looking at and I asked that question how long is it gonna take to implement this program and that's one of the reason we have tried is this y'all just approved this in budget for 2026 so uh we got this resolution to get it for the mayor to get signed uh we will be we are actually going to be the first in the state of Arkansas that implements this entire package there are a couple of agencies utilizing AI uh North Little Rock just put it in their 26th budget for the entire package so I want to get it on the books first because I want to be the first and just I want those brag right so anyway that's the reason we put it out here but to answer your question uh the I've talked to our representative from from I'm sorry from prepared I can I can't talk right now he says the call taking assistive side of it generally takes about he said it can run anywhere from 30 to 60 days uh for them they'll send a team of technicians in here their support team and they will come in they will get start getting a lot of information from us as to this type call who do we want to route it to and so forth and so forth he said about 30 to 60 days that they will have that set up so uh and with that to that point that the money that's pre paid for this system uh when it's all fully implemented now it's gonna take a little while to fully implement everything all the features but we can do away uh the the goal is we will do away with that translation service that we're paying fees to every month we can do away with our text and 911 service that we're paying fees to every month uh so there's a lot of things that is incorporated into this one that we will be able to eliminate and narrow down to this one system.

So there's a lot of savings that will come along with this system too from the annual budget.

Thank you sir.

Any other questions from the committee anything from the public or other staff if not um please cast your vote on whether or not to forward resolution 25 217 to full council that was the last item under new business um under pending items um we have res I'm not gonna read this resolution um it's resolution 25198 it's a resolution by the city by the Jonesboro City Council to accept an offer and enter into a contract to purchase property and indoor litigation efforts between the city of Jones were on Laurel Park LLC.

Um obviously this was you know sent back to the council or sent back by the council at the last city council meeting.

Um the times already passed for the for the agreement.

So I get I think today we're just gonna kind of get an update from Mr.

Richardson about you know what our next steps might be.

I don't know if Carol's got anything to add, but I can say my my viewpoint is I think we need to end the litigation and get moving on so that someone can sell it.

But uh yeah, obviously that the offer that was outlined by this resolution is effectively expired.

I think it technically expires tomorrow, but there's no way to to actually perfect that and close that.

So really, I guess our next steps are I believe that last time we kind of laid out the steps or proceed with the lien, you know, um settle the lien or buy the property and then a lien.

So obviously the latter, unless the finance and and city council wants to make a counter offer, um, and I don't know how successful that would be, but that's certainly an option we could entertain.

The others would be to you know possibly either negotiate out of settlement and end all the litigation or just carry on and and attempt to perfect the lien and eventually you know foreclose on the lien, but that would be several years.

So you know, I think it's just that a continued discussion that we need to have because I get it, it's really confusing for the public and for me and for everybody trying to follow it's pretty complicated.

And uh, so the obviously the more we can talk about it in here, hopefully the better the public can understand how their tax dollars are are affected one way or the other with this.

I guess my question is may it be silly.

When is it done?

When is there need to be a motion on this?

It's more just discussion.

We're not sending it back to full council.

It's just more it was a we'll get Carol's opinion.

I mean it was sent back to you, so eventually you'll need a motion whether that's to postpone indefinitely or whether that's to voted up or down or maybe we postpone.

There's still second questions.

There's no discussion on that.

No, you can have it as long as we got if it was days, if we said 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, from what I gather, it's no discussion, but then definitely I believe we can still have discussion.

Chris isn't here, so I'll say yes.

We can have discussion on indefinite.

All right, so now there is a motion and now we can have discussion.

Go ahead, Charles.

Well, I was just gonna say you know, if I remember correctly, I think the appraised value was somewhere around 300,000.

Um so if there if it's 300,000, then the most we can expect to get back would be 300,000.

If you if you add a 3.6 million dollar lien to that, that property is probably not gonna move.

Um litigation or attorney fees are gonna be no telling how much.

I just think you know, when we did this, as we have said many times, it was a public safety issue.

Um it was never like, well, we we're probably gonna do this unless we get our money back.

I mean, we had to do something.

Unfortunately, it was it fell on our shoulders, but I just think the you know, it in my opinion, if the you know, mayor continues discussions with Laurel Laurel Park and see what kind of offer it can be brought back to finance and or to you know maybe the committee or the council, I think in my opinion that might be our best next move, but Dr.

Coleman.

Well, I I just show what when I made statements I'm done.

It just you know it's like we keep throwing money.

When are we gonna get this settle uh how long?

I guess maybe that's from a litigation standpoint.

Maybe it's gonna take a little bit longer than but it just I just don't think we need to be taught anymore about this issue.

Yeah, to to Dr.

Coleman's point and uh Councilman Haftner, uh you know there's no way to estimate the time period and the money that's gonna be involved to defend this lien.

There's um it's not gonna be cheap.

That's that's what we know.

It's not gonna be cheap and it's not gonna be fast.

Um and at the end of the day, what you've got is a lien that's on that one parcel of property where the tower was.

Um, you know, and in three or four years, if that sells for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, then you know the the city I guess could go after the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, but the the real question is in the unknown is how much it's gonna cost us to get to a point where we can collect three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

For obviously way less than 3.2 million dollars.

But at the end of the day if if it's uh you know if you're comparing what is the most efficient and and beneficial use to the taxpayers again we're not getting back the 3.25 million dollars we spent to tear down that building I mean I don't know how to be any more clear than that and that's been discussed from the get go that that money's not coming back through conventional lien recovery through economic development over time maybe but I bet either yeah well so what we are happy to do in the city administration is we can continue negotiating a possible possible settlement or we can work with city attorney to continue um legal proceedings and and hire an outside council so those are that's really where we're at right now again what you win in the end if you win I don't know that it's a whole lot um you know it's if you can settle it for a reasonable amount it's probably it's probably more money in your pocket from a profit standpoint over fighting litigation.

I I guess the confusing part to me and it is confusing you said the city bought it do we have any if they bought do we have any more litigation anywhere period okay or if the city bought do we should have other obligations and legal entities involved and I think that's why I made a statement you know to me it needs to be done.

If if we're gonna buy and know other legal aspects of go into court and all that that's more probable to me than to keep going and put more money into it and you add into the 3.5 million that we've already spent that's that's insane that's you know it's taking tax people's money to split it around far as I concern.

So I can answer the litigation part of that Dr.

Coleman um if we had purchased the property that would have ended our part of the litigation because there is still currently pending litigation between Laurel Park and one main that's the name of it right one main and that is on appeal but that litigation is basically money.

It's over the building that's no longer there.

So that is you know is is one main owed money because the building was you know that that type it's between those two entities we're not a party to that at this time.

So the answer to that as far as if we had purchased it would be no there would be no more litigation but um and the litigation that would be that's pending right now is they've appealed our placement of the lien.

So we would have to and they have a right to do that under our code um appeal it to circuit court our answers due on February one.

So Mr Chairman one of the things I was just thinking about you know I I know you guys negotiating I'd love to see us um come away with something to recover some money for our taxpayers I don't know what that number is I know what my number would be but at the same time would love to see us either a well let me ask you this have we countered so on the initial property purchase you know that the the owner was asked multiple times if that was their you know if that was pretty much their their final offer.

Again that the offer to purchase that is currently up for discussion about tabling right now you know as a part of trying to make this a transparent proje process as possible you presented what we were you know council was presenting what we were presented and there wasn't you know just a whole lot of of back and forth other than just okay here's your terms is this how much money you want and uh you know is this the final offer and that that was the final offer there wasn't there wasn't any interest in going any lower by the by the the by the owner uh you know when it comes to negotiating on a possible lane obviously there's there's some back and forth I think we'd all like to see as much money as possible but you know that the property owner obviously is under no you know he's under no obligation to to settle that's his choice and so you know I would I would say that not not to sell I'm not asking if we were to sell just or even to settle.

Um obviously you guys bring it back to us and we um get to decide, but have we done have we done that or no?

Well, it that was kind of what councilman haftner and I and um briefly kind of just discussed as far as do we use this meeting to to discuss um or use this motion to discuss what kind of range of s of settlement um that we might want to look at and uh obviously we're not asking to pass a resolution to approve a settlement, but I mean I would anticipate that you know you're not gonna get a three hundred thousand dollar settlement out of this, but we can start there if you would like.

Uh I don't think we need to set the range.

I think y'all need to negotiate and bring back to us what you think's a acceptable offer.

Well, we'll bring back what the what the what the uh the the owner would agree with.

Yeah.

Um happy to do that, and I'm sure that we can probably have that for the next finance committee meeting.

Um way or the other, we need to be able to move on to hire outside council to answer to answer a lawsuit.

So my only point of caution is that the next finance meeting is on the thirteenth.

Let me look at a calendar.

But yeah, but the thirteenth.

And if something is approved by council or by committee, it would then go to council on the 20th, which would then be within a week and a half of when our answer is due as far as hiring outside legal counsel and giving them the opportunity to get that filed.

So, you know, if if we had something sooner, you may have a special called finance meeting requested so that it could potentially go on the council meeting on the thirteenth and give at least a little more time for litigation to be prepared for if they were gonna.

But you mean on the I mean on the sixth.

Yeah, yeah.

Which is really close.

Okay.

Well, if there's I mean, if there is a yeah, if there is a worthwhile offer to consider, I think that would happen pretty quick.

I mean, there have been continuing discussions with with uh representatives from Lowell Park about what a realistic settlement amount could possibly be.

Yeah, yeah.

I was gonna say depending on what the timeline is.

We could I mean we could if we don't if they don't have something in a a week, I mean that's not very far out the next council meeting, but we could have it we could always do a special call at council meeting too, couldn't we?

Had to, and could get a quorum.

Yeah.

So I mean do we wanna set I guess Monday try to have some information back by Monday for for consideration for potential special called meeting on Tuesday.

Good to me.

I mean, I guess the the worst the worst we can do is just hear no.

So I mean that would be my recommendation just to give you time to go ahead and get council hired and get an answer filed timely.

Because they gave us an extension, just so y'all are aware.

Um during the discussions of the offer to sell, um part of our negotiation was they had amended their appeal complaint.

I accepted service on behalf of you guys for that, so they didn't have to expend more money serving everyone.

The exchange for that was I agreed to accept that service in exchange for them extending our time to file an answer to February one so that we had time to deal with all of this with the holidays and everything like crunching in right there together, our answer would have already been due.

So they agreed to extend to February one to give us time to work through all of that.

I had a curiosity.

I mean, could we run this thing concurrently as if a deal wasn't coming down the pipeline?

We could proceed with outside council.

I don't know what the dollar amount would necessarily be on that.

I don't know either you can, you just incur legal expenses at that point.

You know, at this point.

And maybe obviously I'd rather not throw good money at bad money if there was a deal to be made, would much rather do that.

But I also realize that they've kicked this thing for 30 days to go through time and look at this deal.

However, I don't know if they'd give us another 30 days to try to mediate between settling.

I would not count on that based upon my discussions.

We can always ask, but I would not expect that.

I pushed really hard to get February one instead of January one.

Thank you for your efforts.

Okay.

Any other questions or comments?

Anything from the public in attendance?

I think this is I I would like to say this.

I think it's a great discussion, but on the same token, I do want to save our taxpayers' money, obviously, but I also don't want to waste uh money either.

So even if it takes a few more days, then I'd rather I'd rather take a few more days than just throw something up.

Now I was intrigued by uh what councilman member um more said the other week was about having this lien.

I don't know how that works because all of this is very confusing.

But to have this, but to have type um he was mentioning because we have the lien, then we can kind of help navigate who purchases and all of that kind of stuff.

So I don't know if that's in this part or no, that was only if we purchased the property that we would have control over who how it was developed and who we sold it to.

That's the other thing.

If we purchase what's in this, we still don't own every parcel there.

I mean it's well the offer to purchase was for his additional parcels, but not for the ones uh right right.

All right, any other discussion before we vote on the motion to postpone indefinitely about it on postponing indefinitely resolution 25198.

All right.

Um that was all under pending items.

Is there any other business for the committee today?

I would like to mention or ask um I talk about this in the I don't know, public works, public service, I forget those names.

But um the timing is is really tough as far as the four o'clock meetings.

Have we ever had a discussion on moving this closer to city council times or whatever?

The issue we have is we have MAPC that starts at 5 30 or 5 or 5 30.

So we if we moved it back to five, we would we'd only give ourselves a 30-minute window to and I will say on the last meeting where it ran over, it takes a while for the system to reboot.

We started MAPC like 30 minutes late because the system has to go down and I don't know, I don't know how that works, but they have to pull up the next meeting and get it rebooted and ready for them to vote.

So I'm not sure exactly what that entails.

That would be maybe an IT or an maybe a U question.

I don't know.

But I just know it took a while and we started late because the finance meeting had run late before.

I mean, I guess you know, an option would be you know, if if MAPC wanted to flip spots with us, but that's a uh no it takes more time for I believe for them in the back to reset than it does to reset this computer.

Right.

So there are no options.

Okay.

I hear you.

Sarcastic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Any other business?

By the way, Dr.

Anthony, that's it's not the first time that's come up and still no options.

I got you.

Um if not, if there's no other business, we'll move into public comments.

This gives the public a chance to comment on something that was not discussed on today's agenda.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Patty Lack, 4108, Forest Hill Road.

A couple of months you guys, I brought up the idea of the city of Jonesboro going cashless or mostly cashless, and I think it's about time that we start implementing that in a lot of our uh parks and facilities.

I don't know how it's done.

It can't be too too hard because I think you look at like first national bank is um they had their little quirks on all that for uh a couple of uh weeks, but they've got that fixed already.

Um and I know that um in the newspaper or I saw a write-up that it was when Jonesboro was taking over City Stars that one of the things was is that they wanted them to go cashless.

So I don't know if that situation with City Stars is cashless or not.

But there's plenty of options that we have.

You look at the high schools, they do like the GoFan um page.

There's also a another um uh uh system that it's called core that you can have, and then also to how that can tie in maybe to the city buses.

But I think it's about time, and I think the situation that the city is in right now that we look to going, maybe not totally cashless, but I think it's important that we start doing that, um, especially when there's not a lot of sports being played right now, it's a kind of a slow time that maybe the IT or maybe that there's someone from the outside that can help us implement or we can get ideas from whoever did the first national bank.

Um, but I think it's about time that we go because I think there's so many companies now that are doing that.

So I hope you guys can look into it.

I don't know who that person is, but just to put that um for the last thing for the year, and I wish you guys happy new year.

Thank you.

Any other comments from the public?

I just want to say that what I've learned about sports is there's apparently never a slow season.

I don't know if y'all knew that, but like there's like four things going on now, I think.

I thought that too.

I thought, oh well, this is a slow time.

We'll be able to to figure all this out, but I don't think it I don't think there ever is one over there.

But I do know the discussions have been ongoing about that.

There's really no no such thing as an off-season anymore.

I don't think so, man.

There's so many sports now that it's all all year round is what they're telling me.

So if there's no other public comments, the next item is adjournment.

So moved.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?