5:46Do a brief presentation followed by public comment if anybody shows up and then any questions you may perhaps have for staff, uh then a discussion amongst planning commissioners, followed by a motion.
6:01So a little background.
6:02Uh Boulder County received grants to replace aging emergency warning equipment, including the six that are in the city.
6:09Uh they're approximately 40 years old at this time.
6:13Uh the new technology offers better message clarity, better sound uh propagation, reduced maintenance needs, and the option for more targeted messaging.
6:24Uh the current code does not actually provide a path forward for these.
6:28Uh that's why we're here tonight.
6:31That being said, I did some research.
6:33It's not always common in every code, and I think sometimes these are done just under like a life safety kind of emergency provision.
6:40Uh and we don't have a record of how the existing ones were processed.
6:44Uh so we could speculate all evening, but we'll never really know.
6:49And uh while we give you the background and while you know that these six new uh emergency warning uh systems are are coming into play.
6:59Really, the hearing tonight is strictly about the code language and not about these the the six uh future warning systems.
7:06So really the the amendment does four basic things, or there's four components to it.
7:11It defines what emergency warning equipment is, it exempts and uh exempts them from the height requirements and from typical setbacks, uh, and requires building permit, but then at the same time it also limits their height and uh the location, and then uh it prohibits co-location of wireless facilities.
7:29We'll go over each of these in a little bit more detail.
7:31This highlight kind of the the main language in each of those sections.
7:36Uh it defines them as emergency and warning sirens, audible warning devices, transmission equipment for public safety services, and associated towers and poles on which such equipment is mounted.
7:53So it also exempts them from the spatial requirements, and that's our whole table that sets out setbacks, heights, all that all those requirements, uh, including the maximum height limits and setbacks.
8:04Uh and then it goes on to say tower polls and equipment must be structurally engineered, meet applicable building code requirements, and receive necessary building permits.
8:14And then where we limit the height is we simply say the height shall be the minimum necessary to accomplish its attended function, and then it shall be set back from any adjacent private property a distance equal to or greater than the total height of the emergency warning equipment.
8:31And then the exemption uh it just this lays out that it cannot apply to wireless communication facilities and co-location is not allowed on the polls.
8:42That was the presentation, so it's pretty straightforward.
8:45And I guess we can open up the public hearing.
8:48Uh yeah, we can um hear from any interested members of the public, and it looks like we do not have any here.
8:58Um seeing no members of the public wish to address commission.
9:01Public comment period is now closed.
9:03Um this item for discussion is the approval of an ordinance of the city council of the city of Lockheed, Colorado.
9:12Um of the code of ordinances regarding height and other spatial requirements for emergency warning equipment.
9:20Um, do we have any questions of staff on this?
9:24I just have one question.
9:26Is there any reason to specify in the code that this is only relevant to city-owned property?
9:33I don't is that is there any circumstance where someone else might want to put up a tower?
9:38We we definitely designed like the setback to kind of imply that because it's it applies to the setbacks apply to adjacent private property.
9:45Uh we did discuss that, and this is kind of where we landed, but I mean we couldn't we can discuss that further.
9:53Um but I can't the this language was was trapped in a way to to only apply to city property, but we could probably be more explicit.
10:04So I don't know if it's necessary.
10:06I mean, I I I sort of was trying to think about it.
10:08I don't know how many private interests would ever have an emergency desire, and if they needed one, would we want them to have an exemption too?
10:16Maybe I so I don't know.
10:17I I just thought it was worth asking.
10:19I was curious about the thoughts on that.
10:22Actually, I'm trying to refresh my memory because we had this expensive uh explicit conversation with Mary Lynn, and she felt comfortable.
10:29And I was trying to look point to the the language.
10:33Uh that she was specifically feeling comfortable with it, maybe D1.
10:49Yeah, I think it's the definition.
10:51I think it's we did have it more narrowly written to just apply to city, but then that's what where the discussion went.
10:58But then it could be the county, it could be state.
11:00So that's where we landed on uh transmission equipment for public safety services.
11:06And we felt that was broad enough that if there was some other legitimate public safety kind of uh level of government or agency or something that we could still apply this to them, or even a private entity that was doing it for public safety, it might still get the exemption.
11:28I had one question you I think you touched on it, but what I was concerned about is sometimes these towers get filled with you know all kinds of different microwaves and communications and none of that's there.
11:39I can't find where it says that in the ordinance.
11:41It's it's uh four sub bullet four d4.
11:45It's on the second page, falls off of the page on my on my copy, anyways.
11:51And there is a potential from another we did leave uh audible warning sorry, transmission equipment for public safety because sometimes there are uh I've dealt with in the past jurisdiction uh kind of satellites had it at the line of sight and they were redundant communication for emergency services.
12:08So we wanted to make sure we made this broad enough that if something like that came up, so they could have some satellite or or mini you know dish uh for, but it would be for um you know a public safety kind of component, it wouldn't be for the private sector or you know, wireless, and that is all assuming that the feds don't change anything with regards to wireless communication facilities.
12:42Any other questions?
12:44There's six right now.
12:47There's six right now.
12:48That's my understanding.
12:49And we're gonna stay with six in the same thing.
12:53Four are generally in the same area, and then two might be shifting some.
12:57Yeah, they're all uh they did a propagation map for the noise.
13:01Um Pete Gratch on the fire chief.
13:03Thanks for having me.
13:04Um they did a propagation map for sound quality and noise.
13:07So there's a few that are shifting.
13:09One of them actually was on a piece of private property on a city easement.
13:12We chose to put that into a city park just to clean up that for the future, so those things do happen.
13:17But yeah, we have six, we're staying with six, and they're within uh hundred of feet of each other.
13:22So the locations generally don't change.
13:25Well, it's nothing new to the neighbors.
13:27No, no, just one in a city park, but otherwise uh everything's pretty much pretty much the same.
13:33Well, I still get building permits and go through that process.
13:37They're all structurally engineered.
13:38We've been kind of reviewing those uh at the same time as going through this process.
13:44Obviously, they won't get it be issued if this isn't approved.
13:50Okay, any other questions or shall we move to our discussion?
14:04It's gonna be a record short meeting.
14:06Yeah, this question.
14:10I think emergency safety equipment is good.
14:14Yes, I don't think that there should be upgrades.
14:18I don't like height limits um for safety and cuts.
14:23Um all right, is there any other discussion or would anyone like to make a motion?
14:31I'll make a motion unless anybody discussion go for it.
14:36Okay, um, I move to approve resolution 2025-5, a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Lafayette, Colorado recommending approval of an ordinance of the city council of the city of Lafayette, Colorado, amending chapter 26 development and zoning of the code of ordinances regarding height and other spatial requirements for emergency warning equipment.
14:56All right, we have a motion.
14:57Do we have a second?
15:00All right, motion and second.
15:01Any further discussion?
15:02If not, all in favor.
15:06Any opposed motion carries.
15:18Allows me to give Stephen a hard time.
15:21I get my meetings stuck fast.
15:26Moving on to other business.
15:28Are there any committee reports or commissioner comments?
15:35I guess you all are.
15:36Just a reminder, Peach Fest is the Saturday.
15:39Looks like it's gonna be a record hot day again.
15:42So if you're going, be sure to bring water and various.
15:56So considering they're expecting 35,000 people over the period of the day.
16:03Do they have satellite parking?
16:04I always walk to it.
16:09So that'd be another thing is if you're if you're going with your car, then you know, just be aware it's gonna be shut down from Kim Bark to Simpson.
16:18Are they putting bike corrals out for what like the like long bike racks out?
16:23No, or is it just gonna be everyone fending for themselves in front of it's a free for all?
16:32Well, they have a their over the years they get smarter, so they're selling peaches at either end and in the middle.
16:39So kind of spread the people out, and they're all agreed that they will sell at the same price, so people don't have to run up and down thinking we'll get a cheaper price somewhere else.
16:52I got involved with uh with a project.
16:55Um the Wanaka Granary, which I don't know if any of you even know where it is, but it's over by Wanaka Lake, kind of tucked away there on the east side, um, is uh in need of some fixing and repair.
17:10So I organized a meeting with uh with the city administrator and a couple of staff people and um historic preservation board and lions club because the Lions Club does on a volunteer basis, you know, maintain the outside cutting weeds and grass and stuff.
17:28And so the city agreed that they would then go see if they can line somebody up to do an assessment of the building of what needs to be done and how much that would cost, and then we would go from there.
17:40Um historic preservation board seems interested in this, so I'm gonna be attending their regular meeting at the end of the month when their uh chair kind of talks about it to them.
17:55Any other committee reports or commission comments?
17:58Are the open space didn't meet, so that's why I don't have a report.
18:03Um department comments.
18:10So just this will move forward to council uh next week.
18:15So quick turnaround on this one.
18:17Uh also for that council meeting, they will be hearing Kindercare and uh parking reduction for Red Queen.
18:26Uh they want to add an addition, a small addition onto Red Queen, and then it'll uh it'll kind of complete the street wall in Geneseo there.
18:35Uh but their only place to go is where three parking spaces are.
18:38So uh that's that's moving forward.
18:41That'll obviously uh come for you guys for uh the spa review, but they want to make sure they can get a parking reduction before they invest too much more money in the design.
18:51So that's kind of what's happening in the case was we don't have a meeting.
18:56Uh we don't have anything for next the next meeting.
18:59However, we were thinking maybe it would be a good one to have dinner and a discussion, and we'd love to know like topics you're interested in.
19:07That all being said, Maryland's on vacation.
19:09We we need to coordinate with her so it's not set in stone yet.
19:12Uh, but that's kind of the thought.
19:14And uh if you have any topics that you want to discuss, email Lauren myself or Steven or all of us.
19:21Uh and we figured we'd do it more in a kind of informal setting, like we do with the working group and just eat dinner around the table and and talk.
19:30So uh, but that's all I have.
19:34Um can we ask just I mean I know we can.
19:37I don't know if you can talk about it.
19:39The the vacant lots on baseline.
19:42I'm just curious if those are moving through a process or if there's a timeline on on those properties because they're quite the eyesore talking about at um um baseline near the library near Sister Carmen.
19:55Okay, uh and if you can't talk about it, that's fine.
20:00No, is my understanding those two with the there's kind of two on either side of the drive aisle.
20:05They're on the south side of the road.
20:06They're often have overgrown grass.
20:09Uh no, there's no we get one of the I think there's two separate properties.
20:15No, actually, I think it's the same property.
20:16That's right, it's unusual.
20:17It's the same property with like an easement through the middle of it for that drive aisle.
20:21Uh now that I think about it.
20:22Don't hold me to that though.
20:24We the the property owner comes forward with kind of soft requests like, hey, can I build this here?
20:30And how many units can I get?
20:32And but not anything uh from like a a professional and no no pre-apps or anything like that in in recent memory.
20:39It's since I've been here and I'm not I'm not aware of anything.
20:41Is the brown field remediation on that land complete?
20:45That is a question I cannot answer.
20:47So what is it related to a previous land use or it was a gas station?
20:51It was a gas station.
20:52And they dug up a lot of earth and they had pipes in there for a while.
20:56There's a gas station with like a block in or half a block out.
20:58Right next to the liquor store.
20:59Well, actually, I've had liquor store around that liquor store there.
21:04We're talking about different here.
21:05I was gonna say, I think we've got different sites.
21:12Isn't that car street?
21:18We're talking about the ones, yeah, the the intersection of baseline cars on the east side.
21:24We are reviewing a sketch plan for that.
21:28It's got a 5,000 square foot commercial building on the hard corner, and then moving to the east.
21:35It's kind of more of like live work style units.
21:38Okay, but there is something in progress.
21:40And we're hoping to schedule that for a sketch plan relatively quickly.
21:45Uh and yeah, and then there's talking with that blue is there.
21:50Yeah, then we have a gas station there.
21:54I thought you were talking about the one that's kind of in front of the uh like the assisted living facility.
22:00That's not quite as much of an extra.
22:03No, that's that's usually just like grass.
22:05Yeah, you know, some tall grass.
22:07Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
22:09Yeah, just um I I've heard from a fellow professional that they that they were working through the process.
22:14I'm just kind of curious where that's at.
22:20Because when they're when they do remediation, then does the city have final sign off?
22:25In my experience, no, it's it's typically the state and the county.
22:30Oh, could you maybe find out if they did what they needed to do, that would be great for sure.
22:38Any other questions or stuff or any other department comments?
22:44Question on the uh project we approved on public and baseline.
22:51That was a gas station.
22:52Is that where you were talking about?
22:55This is further down at car, just north of Luthlade Elementary School.
22:59Um, there's been a gentleman sitting there selling some juice in the last couple weeks.
23:04Um that's big open lot.
23:06Well, that corner baseline and public.
23:10Is there a sign ordinance against those signs being up so long?
23:14Oh, on the census, the the construction side.
23:17The construction sign?
23:18We talked about how important of an intersection that was when we're looking at that project.
23:21It just looks really ratty, and I would think the signage ordinal signs to stay up that long.
23:30Some some real confidence in our code there.
23:35Uh I will I I'm I'm guessing our I'm guessing our code is silent on that kind of signs because it's relatively dated, but uh if it if they're not allowed, and uh you know it could be I'll talk with John Hoffman, our our co-enforcement officer, and and see.
23:49There are some new ones up the the engineer, the building engineer, and the architect signs are those are more recent.
23:55So it tells me that something's moving.
23:57I believe we start building.
24:01I'm pretty confident we received a building permit application.
24:05Okay, whether it was complete or not, or or whether they were just feeling they had some questions.
24:10I know there's been some movement there.
24:11I can't tell you exactly where it's at.
24:13That's like a billboard now instead of a job site.
24:18I can vouch for Boulder Engineering.
24:21I don't know if anybody's checking on what it's playing.
24:25Anybody heard from Dutch Bros?
24:29They they uh uh have submitted uh I believe, and it's the same thing.
24:37They've either submitted or or but they're not through completeness or but it's just very early, but they are yes, which they hadn't been really anything happening in the seven or eight months I've been here.
24:47I think they were saying they were gonna be built by December or something.
24:50Last year, the Dutch brothers.
24:52Yeah, they're going to be open January.
24:54I think I know they're still working through a couple of easements, uh at least one.
25:00I think the pedestrian usement that'll have to go in front of City Council for acceptance.
25:05A pedestrian easement?
25:06Yeah, I believe it's sidewalk easement, but a pedestrian, yeah.
25:11I think it was kind of a compromise on on right of way.
25:15They did dedicate some right away, and I think there is an I think I know what it is actually, if I remember correctly.
25:20It's their it's their entrance because of the apron, they've got to jog the sidewalk back to meet ADA.
25:26So it's to capture that, I'm pretty sure.
25:34Greek restaurants moving on pretty quickly.
25:43It's right across from the other Mediterranean restaurant.
25:46Which is also great.
25:50And then you stop off with the guy, and you forget.
25:57Any other comments or questions?
25:58Or do I have a motion for um adjournment?
26:13You can make your 6 30 community.
26:16Sorry, uh God forbid.