1:08Do I read the items first and then the call to order or do we have done matter?
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1:47Call to order and roll call.
1:58I believe that Lisa is out today.
2:01And uh Bob Potter here.
2:05Announcement regarding compliance with open meeting law.
2:13During this portion of the agenda, may it must be limited to matters on the agenda for action.
2:18If you wish to be heard, come forward and give your name for the record.
2:21The amount of discussion as well as the amount of time any single speaker is allowed may be limited.
2:28Okay, public comment.
2:31Do we have any public comment?
2:35Chairman Seth Floyd for the record.
2:37Maybe this is the first time since I can remember we've had public comment uh at this meeting, and I think it's appropriate, uh, Mr.
2:43Chairman, because it is your last meeting, and I'm not on the agenda like Mike is uh all over the agenda.
2:49So I wanted to come up with public comment and say a few words.
2:52But first, uh we need you to answer a question for us that we have not even Google could not figure this out for us.
2:58Uh who was the building official when you were appointed to the Enterprise Fund Committee.
3:07Well, I'll give you I'll give you three.
3:09We've got it, we've narrowed it down to three.
3:11It was either Earl Russell, Rod Clark, or Chris Knight.
3:18All right, everyone, we now know the answer uh to who the building official was.
3:22I think Earl Russell predates them and then God, I don't even remember Rod Clark being.
3:29He was in an acting role, I think, for uh a very short time.
3:34Uh I remember him one time when we were building a uh a commercial building early on up off of Sahara, and they made us put in a doghouse all the way to the street, which probably 250 feet, so someone could come there before the AI or the uh ADA route was in.
3:57I said, You're kidding me, Rod.
4:04Chairman, uh, it it is there are not many people who have been on a committee for as long as you have since 2008.
4:11So that's uh what about 18 18 years of service on this board.
4:16Uh and it's special for a few reasons.
4:18One, obviously you've demonstrated a lot of commitment to the city, but I want to tell a quick story about the first time you and I met, and that was when I first uh started as the director of community development, and we came and reported to this committee that we were going to be merging a couple of departments together, and I said a few words and then I left the room, and as I was leaving, you said, excuse me, where where exactly are you going?
4:41Aren't you now over this board?
4:43And uh the message that sent to me was a couple of things.
4:47One, uh, how much respect you have for this board and the high expectations that you have for others, and I think that's reflected in everybody who sits up here takes this role very seriously.
5:00I know our team does, uh, and we always try to give uh the best information to you, give you solid reports and answer all of your questions.
5:06And I think that's a legacy that you will leave to everyone who follows.
5:09So I certainly appreciate that.
5:10We don't have that on all of our boards.
5:12Uh, so it's refreshing when someone brings that kind of uh approach to these boards.
5:17So with that, thank you, Mr.
5:19Um, unfortunately, I do have to leave this meeting early, also.
5:24I have a meeting with the city manager.
5:26Um, so I think it's appropriate that we're gonna finish how we started, but I hope you won't be a stranger.
5:30Uh, I know Jerry is planning to take you to lunch uh as the acting building official and glean some information from you.
5:36But thank you for your service.
5:38We really appreciate it.
5:39Thank you for those compliments.
5:49Okay, boy, that was unexpected and certainly uh certainly welcome.
5:55Uh we work with all of us in the industry, the rest of the people up here.
6:00Uh we do take this job seriously and we try hard.
6:04So it's nice to be appreciated sometimes.
6:09Okay, with that, we'll go to uh possible uh action to approve the final minutes by reference to the regular meeting of October 9, 2025.
6:19Um I think everybody has seen them when I'll take a motion to approve those.
6:24I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes.
6:27Uh all those in favor?
6:34Oh boy, look at this.
6:35Number five report by Michael Cunningham, Deputy Community Development Director and Building Official regarding the enterprise fund budget for fiscal year 2026.
6:45All right, good afternoon, everybody.
6:47It sounds like we are about to start the mic show.
6:49So thank you for having me for the record, Michael Cunningham, Deputy Community Development Director.
6:54Um, before I get into the report, I did also just want to say a few words.
6:57Um it is it is truly impressive that you've been involved with this enterprise fund board um for as long as you have.
7:03I remember when I first started shadowing kind of Kevin to kind of see all the different roles that a building official had to do.
7:09Um, we sat down, we talked about this board, we talked about the importance of it.
7:12Um I did not realize your tenure was as long.
7:15Nor did I until we saw when you were first appointed to the board.
7:19So it is it is a press impressive.
7:21Um appreciate um all the years that you put into it and hope you you get to move off and enjoy the next chapter in your life.
7:28And with that, I will jump into our report.
7:30So um, so unfortunately now the bad news starts.
7:34Um, so with our budget, um, kind of like we've been having over the last few meetings, we still haven't seen a huge increase in permit volume.
7:40So if you had a chance to review the the budget for this year so far, we're still kind of in the red um monthly.
7:47There's a few things I wanted to point out.
7:49One in January, uh, you'll see a large deposit, um a big increase in our revenue dollars.
7:55That had to do with um our deferred revenue.
7:58So, as you guys know, we have the deferred revenue account when we issue permits, we put money into that fund, and then as projects are completed and we complete certain milestones, we transfer that money back every so often when we check.
8:09Uh, we did a check in January and we needed to transfer 923,000 back into our account, um, which is good.
8:15It helped us be in the green.
8:17Um, what that does show you is kind of what the permit volume is showing.
8:20We're getting more projects that are closing than are kind of being submitted, so we're starting to see that backlog of open permits kind of finish out.
8:27A couple other things I wanted to point out just because we are getting close to the end of the year.
8:31We only got uh four months left.
8:33Right now we're projected on our revenues to finish at 13,488,941 dollars.
8:40That's down about 15% from what we originally projected when we when we submitted this budget last year.
8:45So our original projected amount for revenue was just over 15 million.
8:49Um, and then if you look at our expenses on the labor side, um, we're gonna projected to finish at 10 million, 32,000 245.
8:58That's down 17% from what our projected salary or labor account was.
9:03And as you can imagine, that's a lot of the frozen positions that we've had.
9:06If I've as I've mentioned in this meeting before, due to where our current revenues are, we have been holding our positions.
9:12Um, so that's kind of reflected in our labor dollars.
9:14And then if you go down to our discretionary account and you add everything up, right now we're projected to finish the year with total expenses at 16,432,496.
9:26Now, while that's down 16% from what we projected to spend of just over 19 and a half million, that still will put us in the red at the end of the year at almost three million dollars.
9:36Um, so that's something that we're continuing to keep an eye on.
9:40Um, we are obviously aware of that.
9:42As I mentioned before, we are working on our fee study.
9:45Uh, we have another meeting with our consultant next week to try to wrap up that process with the hopes of trying to get a fee study approved sometime this year so we can try to correct um some of the loss that we're seeing just due to increases in our operating revenues.
10:00Um, and then hopefully we'll we'll start to pick up and see a little bit more permit volume.
10:04Uh, with those two things combined, I think we can get kind of our revenue situation corrected.
10:09Uh, we do still have money in our deferred revenue account.
10:12Um, so we will still continue to draw on that as we close out some of the bigger projects.
10:17Um, and then we do still have reserve balance as well with some money in our reserve balance, and then I'll talk a little bit later about some of the bigger projects we got coming up that'll hopefully help us correct this as well.
10:30Um, Chair Potter, does uh anybody have any questions on his report?
10:36Yes, thank you for the update.
10:37Uh this is member Tatum for the record.
10:40Uh I thought that uh the fee study was supposed to conclude sometime around uh the beginning of the year.
10:45Uh what's the update on where that sits right now?
10:48Um so for the record, Michael Cunningham, deputy community development director.
10:52Um so our goal was to have it start with the fiscal year, so the beginning of the fiscal year, which would be July 1.
10:58Um, unfortunately, I don't think we're gonna hit that.
11:00So we have our next meeting uh is next week.
11:04Probably have one to two more meetings before it'll be finalized, and then we have to start the process of business impact statement, getting it on a council agenda, notifying the industry, all that.
11:14So I'm I'm guessing we're probably gonna be closer to the fall time frame before it'll be um in effect.
11:19Uh but the original goal was that July 1, so we'll miss that probably by a couple of months.
11:24Um, but we will continue to work with after this next meeting.
11:27We should have a ballpark on what our increase will uh may look like, and that's when we can start to talk with the industry just to give the industry kind of a heads up on what we're what we're thinking uh might be the increase.
11:39And I have another question that might be a little bit more challenging to answer.
11:42What's the balancing act?
11:43I guess between revenue projections and just shortfalls just due to market conditions versus the fee studies intent to try to what I presume to be to right size the fees to account for some future uh you know expense profile.
11:58Like what's that balance between when the market's just down versus when it's normal and how the fee study correlates?
12:05Um, again, for the record, Michael Cunningham, deputy community development director, and I don't know if Gail wants to speak on this one either.
12:10But from the building perspective, when we do our fee study, um, so we try to take in an average year.
12:15So when we look at our fee study, it has a breakdown of workload, how many positions are total in our staffing plan?
12:21So it assumes we're fully staffed, and what a normal work year would be for us.
12:25Um that's how we come up with like our baseline data.
12:28Um, outside of that, the market volatility is something that unfortunately in the construction industry, as you guys know, is just a volatile industry.
12:36Um, and so we're gonna have up and ups and downs.
12:38We always try to hit that midpoint, knowing that there's gonna be some low months and then there's gonna be some high months, and the hopes is at the end of it, we'll kind of balance out in the middle.
12:47Um, but to get that baseline, that's what we use.
12:49We use an average year because we've been down these last few years.
12:53Um, we've been using I think it was two years, or we're in 26, 20, 24.
13:00Calendar year 24 is the the permit volume year that we've been using to kind of establish um this fee study.
13:09Uh member Tatum for the record, which is another follow-up question.
13:12So, in terms of the I guess staffing projections, when you said that it's based off of a full load staff profile.
13:18Um, is there a certain point where the remedy to some of the shortfall is to consider staffing reductions of any kind?
13:25And if so, what does that look like in terms of the thought process that triggers that?
13:31Uh for the record, Michael Cunningham.
13:33So uh right now the we're holding those positions, so we don't have to look at any staffing reductions.
13:38So that's it's kind of just the the ebb and flow of the um of our staffing.
13:43So if we're in a up up month and we can see a trend going up, we usually look a few months out and then we look back a couple years to kind of see what our um trends have been, and so we will staff based on that.
13:55Um, with our current market right now, like I said, we're gonna be holding those positions.
13:58Our fee study is gonna assume that we'll fill those positions so that we can, if we ever got fully staffed and the permit volume supported being fully staffed, we could afford it.
14:07Um, right now we're gonna be in that gray area where the the fees and the permit volume aren't coinciding with our staffing, and so we'll just have to manage it on a month to month basis until we can start to see some better trends.
14:20All right, member Tatum for the record.
14:21Thank you for clarifying that because one of the things I think I'd be most sensitive to, and I think a lot of people would be is some short-term kind of shortfall of revenue and then that equating to reduction in staffing, and then when things pick up, then the staffing is not available to actually keep up with the market requirements.
14:37So I can appreciate the delicate balance of trying to hedge between both, uh, but just wanted to get that clarity from you.
14:44Yeah, and then I'll just add one more thing since um that added a little bit more context for me too.
14:49So that is one of the reasons too.
14:50We have the plan review consultant contract.
14:52So if you remember in our in our budget, we have a very large amount of money that we use for professional services.
15:00So as permit volume, if it continues to trend down, we'll pull back from the consultants first.
15:03And so we would end up potentially getting down if it if it got to the point where we weren't spending any money on professional services, which is a is a pretty large gap for us.
15:10So that also helps us do this this balancing act balancing act and why those consultant contracts are so important.
15:21That was all very informative.
15:42All right, one more time for the record, Michael Cunningham, Deputy Community Development Director.
15:46Um this one's gonna be a pretty short presentation given where we're at.
15:49You can imagine it's a flat budget.
15:51Um it's actually down slightly on our expenses or up slightly on the salary and labor just because of contract um obligations.
16:00Um our overall expenses, you can see we're projecting down just negative two percent.
16:05Um, revenue we are because we are seeing that trend.
16:09We did update our revenue balance.
16:11So you'll see our revenue we're projecting to be down 10% from what was budgeted this year.
16:15That will put us slightly above what we're planning on collecting this year, but we do see um larger projects and stuff coming in.
16:22So we feel confident we'll be able to make more than we did this year, um, just not what we originally projected.
16:27So as you can see, that puts us in a very negative um budget if you just look at revenue and expenses.
16:33But we are treating this budget um very much like a deficit budget.
16:37So we know that there is that shortfall right now.
16:40Um, so we will continue to operate that way, withholding um positions, limiting our spending um to only what's mandatory to try to help again wait until we get this fee study and hopefully some more permit volume to get it um corrected.
16:55And with that, I can answer any questions.
16:58Any questions, Vincent?
17:01You you know the budget.
17:05Okay, with that in mind, then we'll go ahead and move on to item eight report by David Cross, fire plans review section manager regarding updates on Las Vegas fire and rescue issues that can affect the administration and finances of the building and safety enterprise funds, such as updates on fire sprinkler inspections, plan reviews, and or fees.
17:29Oh, gee, whiz I did skip it, you know.
17:32You know, these last timers gotta watch them.
17:38Well, we'll go forward.
17:39That's embarrassing.
17:40Report by Michael Cunningham, deputy deputy community development director and building official regarding project with significant impact, the building and safety division resource.
17:49Now, how can I miss that one?
17:51That one's important on our budget.
17:58Uh one more time for the record, Michael Cunningham, uh deputy community development director.
18:03Um, so this is the report I've been given the last few times, kind of just to go over some of the projects we have in the pipeline, um, so that you guys have an idea of what we're we're looking at and some of the projections that we're using.
18:14So, first I like to start off with just our overall valuation project.
18:18Um, so projects under 5,000.
18:20So we kind of track two categories.
18:22We track projects under $5,000 in construction valuation, and then we have projects that are over $5,000 in construction valuation.
18:30So right now on projects under $500,000, we have uh 97 projects, so that's a total construction valuation of $16,507, $636.
18:40So as you can see, we still have a lot of projects in the pipeline.
18:43Um, a couple of the bigger ones.
18:44So as we've talked about many times, Area 15 is just continuing to bill out.
18:48So there's uh a new bar restaurant going in there called Fuku.
18:51Um so that's in there, and then the uh TI for Birken stock out at the premium outlet mall, one of the remodels.
18:57So those are two of our bigger projects that are right under 500,000 in valuation.
19:01And then when we go over to the projects over 500,000 invaluation, we have 92 projects in that category with the total construction valuation of 747,868,494.
19:14Um the bigger ones on that one is the English residences, that's also called midtown.
19:18I mentioned that at a couple of these presentations as well.
19:21Um so we've issued a couple permits on that one.
19:23We just recently issued the North Tower, they had the other tower foundation only permit, um, and then the share foo hall, share food hall, uh, which is right next to Share West Side was uh is on that list as well.
19:34That one's under construction as we as we speak.
19:38Another new one that we haven't mentioned yet is a home two suites going in the medical district just south of Charleston or on the south side of Charleston, um just west of just west of Westwood.
20:00Um so that one it's gonna be a hundred and thirty room key hotel with five floors, and then it's gonna have the traditional amenities that you would find with the home two suites, um, a little restaurant, pool area, recreational area, um, and free breakfast, all the things that normally come along with one of the the home two suite product lines.
20:09Another one is Alta and Tonopah.
20:11This one's also in the medical district area.
20:13It's a class A apartment project.
20:15Um five stories, 200 units, and it's 5,000 square feet of retail.
20:19It's just caddy corner to one of the groundbreakings we just had, that's just south of Alta and Tonopah.
20:24So this is another big uh apartment project coming to the city.
20:28And then this one's actually under construction, but I never had a chance to mention it in this meeting, so I wanted to mention it.
20:33Um, the the site where the UNLV School of Medicine building, the Kirkorian Kirkorian School of Medicine building is they're starting this building.
20:41It's under construction now.
20:42If you drive by, you'll actually see the steel starting to go up.
20:45Um it's a Southern Nevada Health Labs laboratory.
20:47Um it's a two-story building with 34,000 square feet of medical labs to help um grow out that campus for the medical students.
20:56And then a lot of medical stuff as you can see on this one.
20:59So under out at Symphony Park.
21:01This one I mentioned before, but this one has a better rendering of it, so I wanted to show it, and I got a little bit more details on it.
21:06Um, so this is over by uh the um Lou Rove Brain Center, um, just across from it.
21:13The facility size is 100,000 square feet, a total investment of over 40 million dollars, um, estimated 388 jobs, um, economic output of 66 million, um, and it's a total, it's on parcel J just over 1.3 acres.
21:28And then Desert Pines, this one I think I've mentioned at every one of these ones, but it's a long project and it's still going through the process, so I just want to keep it up because this one is a big project for us.
21:36This one will bring a lot of permits.
21:38Um, it's getting even closer to actually breaking ground.
21:41Um the lease that needed to be transferred or the reservation that needed to be transferred is in the works, and once that's done, then the developer will be able to take control of this land and start working on the initial demolition and getting the the land ready for uh development.
21:56Just as a reminder, it's around 1500 housing units.
21:59It's gonna be a mix of rental and for sale, affordable housing, mixed income, and market rate.
22:04There's some open space, and then if you recall, the portion up there that says not a part is reserved out for the um east side training center that we will be working with CC CSN on.
22:14I almost said you know CCSN, uh CSN, uh similar to their West Wide or West Side Education Training Center that we've built with them.
22:22Um and they are looking, like I said, to start construction, which will be the initial demo phase um later this year.
22:31And with that, I would be happy to answer any questions.
22:37Um member Tatum, uh for the record.
22:39Now I just want to I don't have any questions.
22:41I just want to say thank you for providing that clarity.
22:43I think I mentioned at every meeting that it's helpful to get a sense of the types of projects that are happening in the jurisdiction and also some of those that uh you can be anticipating to help achieve the projected revenue goals.
22:54So thank you for doing that.
22:58Um Chair Potter, I uh reiterate that.
23:03I go I go away very blessed when I hear that.
23:07I think there's future ahead of us.
23:09Yeah, there's a lot in the pipeline.
23:15Then we'll now go to item eight by David Cross.
23:22Thank you, David Cross for the record, Las Vegas Fire and Rescue.
23:25Um, so for our plan review section, uh, over the last since the last meeting, we've seen a 35% decrease in reviews, overall reviews uh completed, um, which is uh still a 20% increase over last year's uh same time frame reporting.
23:44Uh during that period, we witnessed uh an average increase in meeting our our two-week turnaround goal uh by uh 5% to 86% overall.
23:55Uh and that that equates to a 7% increase from the same time last year.
24:00So we're trending to be uh better in getting our review times met on that.
24:07Uh despite uh despite all that, we were short staffed over the um holidays and numerous vacations and that people taking time off.
24:17So we were still able to maintain that higher level of uh commitment and uh during that.
24:24On our inspection side, we filled uh our vacant inspector supervisor position that we've had for over a year.
24:30Um we were able to backfill that with one of our uh current inspectors, and with that we were able to backfill that, and we also had a uh retirement, so we've uh backfilled two inspection positions with two trainees right now uh for maintaining service.
24:49Um, and then for us over the next six months, we're gonna be working on uh strategies to improve our plan review consistency, uh just to make sure that all of our plan reviewers are on the same page and and as consistent as possible.
25:03Uh training, and uh then also evaluating some of our processes to see if we can do any process improvements and streamline, make uh the reviews go faster and better.
25:17Chair Potter, I want to uh compliment you on promoting from within.
25:22That's always a good sign of stability and and thank you.
25:30Yes, uh, member Tatum for the record.
25:32Uh I was hoping maybe you can elaborate a little bit more on the next steps where you said you're taking a look at the plan review, I guess maybe continuity or consistency, and then also the training and then the process improvement.
25:44Can you explain a little bit more about what that looks like and how I'm I'm curious, how often does that occur?
25:50So it is uh it is a new program that we are uh trying to roll out.
25:55Um throughout the fire service, there's very strict training guidelines for our firefighters, our paramedics, and and that and in our plan review and inspections division, we we've kind of fallen behind that.
26:09So we haven't had that strict regimen of training.
26:13So we're really developing that training is from a new hire, the steps and processes to get them up to speed uh to be able to contribute faster.
26:25Um, and so that is one of the things that we are really working towards streamlining and making sure that plan reviewer A and plan reviewer B are kind of seeing the same things.
26:36So that's one of the areas that we're really working in.
26:40Uh member Tatum for record.
26:41Now I appreciate you doing that because I think that's probably a big part of what some of the community looks for in terms of uh I guess reliance on a consistent message.
26:50Certainly aware of the things on the community side that they can be doing to assist with that.
26:55But I do uh admire that you're putting the program in place to at least try to address it and would love to hear uh maybe in the next time when we come back as to like how that has you know transpired and what you've seen, because I definitely hope that more departments and more jurisdictions look at that as a model because I think it's a positive thing.
27:17Okay, item number nine discussion regarding topics for future agenda items.
27:23Comments made during this portion of the agenda by the individual members shall refer slowly to the proposals for future agenda items, and any discussion shall be limited to whether or not such proposed items are within the purview of the committee and or whether such proposed items shall be placed on a future agenda.
27:39No discussion regarding the substance of any such proposed topic shall occur, and no action shall be taken.
27:47Do we have any discussion regarding topics for future agenda items from the board?
27:53Uh for the record, Michael Cunningham, Deputy Community Development Director.
27:57So just to make sure that we have um the ones covered that I that I think we should have.
28:01So I just heard an update on the fire training.
28:04Um I was planning on giving an update on the fee study at the next meeting at the by the time we have the next meeting in September, October.
28:11Um, that should hopefully be adopted or at the very final stages.
28:15So I was gonna give an update on the the fee study.
28:18Um if everyone on the board agrees with that.
28:21Uh member Tatum for the reggae, yeah.
28:26And then and then from that, I'll have the same three items that we always have.
28:29So we'll give uh budget how we finish FY26.
28:32I'll let you guys know what the final budget for FY27 was with any updates so that we're current on that, and then the project list.
28:40Um we will do that one as well.
28:43And then unless there's anything else, those that would tend to be our topics for the agenda.
28:51We'll move on to item 10 citizens participation.
28:56Uh, member Tatum for the record.
28:58Do is it also at this time that we start to determine when the next meeting would happen?
29:05I will turn over to Tosh.
29:06I think we have the dates.
29:13I was going to say I think everybody's behind.
29:20Tasha Ailey, it's October.
29:28It will be um October 8th at 2 p.m.
29:45Okay, so this is participation.
29:46Public comment during this portion of the agenda must be limited to matters within the jurisdiction of the committee.
29:51No subject may be acted upon by the committee unless that subject is on the agenda and is scheduled for action.
29:56If you wish to be heard, come forward and give your name for the record.
30:00The amount of discussion on any single subject, as well as the amount of time any single speaker is allowed, may be limited.
30:06Now, I know that we have a gentleman out here in the public.
30:10Are are you prepared to come forward and introduce yourself?
30:17I don't see it on the agenda, but I know he's there, so I'm just asking.
30:21So for the record, Michael Cunningham, not to put it too much on the spot.
30:25So Jerry, I asked him to come, so he's our acting building official right now.
30:29Um so I asked him to come to this meeting so he can kind of see how it runs.
30:33Um depending on how the the rest of this time goes, uh by September.
30:38Hopefully, we'll have some decisions made, but if not, Jerry might be um in my role um just doing the the interim report.
30:45Um Jerry's been with the city now in the building department for over 23 years, 26 and a half.
30:54I did not I did not give him enough credit where credit is due.
30:56Um he's always been in the building department with us.
30:59Um he started off as one of our permit techs, and then he became our plans exam accommodation plans examiner, then he became our supervisor of our plans examiners, um, then he became our manager over the plans examiners and the the building inspectors, um and now he's sitting in the acting building official role.
31:15So this is his first meeting.
31:16I didn't I didn't I didn't expect to put him on the spot, but he did sit in the front row, so it's kinda on you, Jerry.
31:26Well, listen, so that was my comment to you.
31:29My comment to everyone here and the board is as you well aware, this is my last one, and no one no way did I think I've been here since 2008, but you know it's been a good run, and uh I've always felt privileged to set up here with the the talent that is the next to me, and and I'm telling you, all professional people, it's always been professional on the other side, and uh, you know, I'm gonna miss it, but it's time to move on and let the smarter ones take my place.
32:03So and I want to I want to thank Michael for doing such a good job at the building department and Jerry, you have big shoes to fill.
32:13And I don't know whether I'm allowed to say this, but congratulations on your promotion.
32:18It's not on the agenda, but against this is my last one, so I get to push the envelope a little bit.
32:27And with that, then I'll call for adjournment.
32:33Aye, aye, median adjourned.
32:37You don't want to hit that harder than it last one?