0:03I don't think I've talked to you once today.
0:07Well, we talked by teams.
0:17We were making all sorts of legal wonders in that meeting yesterday when you were.
0:22Oh, you are watching.
0:26I don't have any legal blunders though.
0:28Work session meeting here in the Lehigh City Council chambers.
0:32This is a work session.
0:33We have a full council tonight.
0:35Councilmember Newell, Councilmember Harrison, Councilmember Stallings, Councilmember Freeman, Councilmember Lockhart, welcome.
0:42We welcome everybody who's here.
0:45It's good to see you.
0:57Our dear Father in Heaven, we're grateful to be here today to be able to talk about important matters that involve our residents and our city.
1:06We're thankful for this great country and for the land we live in for the freedom that we enjoy.
1:11We're thankful for opportunity we have to serve, to be involved in public service.
1:17And for all of those who join with us to also serve and work here in this great city of Lehigh.
1:24We're thankful for those residents that we can be mindful of and that we can come together and counsel together.
1:32And we now ask the um to help us make decisions and have discernment about these things in the name of Jesus Christ statement.
1:43Okay, so just a reminder it's a work session, so there won't be any public comment tonight for the work session portion.
1:50Um with that, we'll go ahead and get started with item two point one.
1:54This is a discussion of a development code amendment uh to include fencing requirements for temporary construction.
2:00I was the one that brought this one up.
2:02Let me maybe give you a little feedback before we go to Kim.
2:04Kim if I so you'll you guys may remember this.
2:08About four years ago, they were building a uh storage, some storage units there next to the Maverick on Pioneer Crossing in 11th West.
2:17Um that work site did not have any security of any kind.
2:21So there weren't any fences, there weren't any trespassing signs, uh, there was nothing there.
2:25It was a three-story building.
2:27Um interestingly enough, we had a young man from our neighborhood who was 14 at the time, went over with another 14-year-old uh that invited them into to mess around, which they shouldn't have been there, however they were there.
2:40And uh one of the 14-year-olds went up, happened to be my neighbor and fell through the soffit 42 feet straight down to the ground.
2:49And so after talking to his parents and dealing with this, I talked to Kim a little bit about just making sure our code for construction, and you guys will remember when we built this building, there were construction fences, there weren't no trespassing signs.
3:03Obviously, to let the public know that this is a construction site uh to do our best as a city to mitigate um accidents and whatnot like that happening.
3:12Kim's adjusted that code just a little bit that would we would ask for um some fencing or some signage uh to be able to protect some of these work sites.
3:22To be quite honest, when you drive around, probably 98% of all of our work sites are already secure.
3:28Uh but this would help um them when they come pull a permit to let them know that they should be secure.
3:33So with that I'll kick it over to you, Kim.
3:37I'll just walk you through what we have.
3:42Hopefully that'll pull up on the screen there.
3:45And you should have, I think these went out in your packet, so I I won't spend a lot of time in detail.
3:53Um yeah, we've got so so there's really no standards currently, so these would be added to either the development code or we have another document that's the design standards and public improvement specifications that has a lot of our construction related things in there.
4:11It could go in either place or even in the municipal code.
4:14But um so yeah, the purpose is pretty obvious as the mayor stated just to protect the public from construction areas.
4:24We talked about this, you know.
4:26Should this we I don't I think it would be over a kill to go to every single, you know, say somebody's building a house.
4:33We hope that people have common sense, but yeah, you know, so we're just focused on the big project, so any commercial project or any multifamily project greater than six units, which uh you know that that would capture quite a few of those big projects.
4:52Um and then C just goes into, you know, we would require some form of security.
5:00And uh number two talks about unless they have some other plan, we're thinking it's six foot chain link fence or our no-climb fence is kind of what we have in mind.
5:09And then I think number three just talks about that it needs to be secured, there needs to be gates so that if nobody's on the construction site, it's locked or secured.
5:19And then four just talks about the warning signs, you know, danger construction area, hazardous uh entry is prohibited.
5:28And then we would require those to be kept up until such time as the hazardous conditions no longer exist, which I know that's a little bit squishy, but you know, I think once they have um you know the the building is has doors and they can secure it so that people can't enter, and as long as there's no obvious hazards, if they still have trenches or things like that outside, we'd still keep it up.
5:53But um and then yeah, if there's some unforeseen circumstance, we left a little bit of flexibility on E, where um our building official could approve modifications or other security measures.
6:07Um but yeah, the default would just be that fence around the site to hopefully prevent entry, at least deter most.
6:16I mean, if somebody wants to get in, they'll probably figure out a way, but this would deter maybe some of the youth and the especially younger kids that can't climb a six-foot fence very easily.
6:28And then for violations, um, we just say that you know we could put a stop work order so that it freezes their construction until they get this in place if if they have taken it down or they're not keeping it locked up or whatever.
6:45And this is very much a draft.
6:47This was just our kind of our initial attempt to try and capture the concerns and and write a policy that hopefully prevents the situation that happened and down on that storage unit building.
7:01So open to any feedback, comments, changes.
7:06Um I really like this.
7:11I think actually it'll cut down on dust, especially if it's if it's lined, if it's just chain link, it's one thing, but if it's lined, I think that'll cut down significantly on dust.
7:22I'm thinking of 3600 west with the huge new development.
7:25I think it's edge out there doing it.
7:29But if there's just a constant dust and mud and dirt issue on 3600 west, and so maybe this would help with that.
7:37One one clarifying question on B2.
7:40When you say multifamily residential, are you talking about multifamily units, or are you talking about just any residential units more than six?
7:50Uh it would be attached, like townhomes, condos, the apartments that are going up by the point of the mountain.
7:58So, yeah, um that's what our at least that's the way our development code defines multifamily, so it's attached walls instead of detached single family.
8:09Would there would there be any heartburn if we just took out the word multifamily?
8:14I guess I'm thinking of other developments in mind over um near Jordan Willows anyway, off of Seventh South.
8:24There's it's mostly single family homes, but it's a large project.
8:28I think there's probably I don't know, 30, 40, 50 units being built, but it's oh yeah.
8:34It's around residential, and I think there's this there's the same hazards.
8:37All the homes are being built at the same time.
8:40So would um in the areas where there's not fencing, would could we apply that as well?
8:47Um, I think the reason we drafted it this way is it might get kind of cost prohibitive.
8:52Like if you think of Sky or you know, some or I should say inverness now.
8:58Some, you know, you might have you know hundreds of units.
9:02It would be probably cost, well, I guess anything can be done, but it would be very expensive to fence, you know, say you have 40 acres or a hundred acres, like up in sky, some of those phases are really big.
9:17So and I think our biggest concern is with the multifamily, you usually have multiple floors, so the height becomes an issue and just the scale of the project.
9:28But we're yeah, if you want, we could we could definitely modify it and pick up, you know, we could do whatever, you know, you're the policy group.
9:38Maybe maybe it would be a max like if we did go single family home residential, maybe there would be like a maximum unit, like if it's up to 20 units, the space shouldn't be too large to fence, but if it's like 300 units, then yeah, I totally agree.
9:55I think it would be too much area to cover.
10:00Sorry, um, what if it on those developments if it was more signage or some other things that weren't where you'd have to fence a hundred acres in, but yeah, signage could be really important to have the bare minimum.
10:13Yeah, yeah, we could put warning signs or things if it's over a certain number of units or acreage.
10:24I like the um the draft as is.
10:28I think it uh direct it addresses the concern and the purpose um that the mayor brought up.
10:34And um there is that there is that um other side where it is kind of the responsibility of the construction company, the home building company to make sure that their site is secure and they are liable for things that happen on their site, and so they can take it upon them to do what they feel is necessary to be safe, and and maybe we don't uh need to overreach too much into every construction site, but into the ones that we we've seen a problem with.
11:07I think that makes sense to me.
11:18Well, it's yeah, we'll come in.
11:20I was just gonna say good job here.
11:23And and like I said, I think I think most of the time, 99% of the time, I think our construction crews are real good about uh securing their construction sites, but it's the ones these two make sure they're are safe.
11:34So okay, we will uh Kim will put that and then we'll send it out.
11:38Yeah, yeah, we'll that's let's do that and then we'll get some approvals on and put it on the consent so we should move forward on it.
11:44Yeah, uh if we go with the development code, it'll need to go through planning commission, and they'll make the recommendation, then we'll come back.
11:52So we'll just plan on routing it through the process from here.
11:57Okay, next item 2.2 discussion of public safety and firefighter contributions to the Utah retirement system.
12:12Um so per IRS regulations, we have to do a resolution to pick up the employee side of any um of the public safety and firefighters um retirement systems.
12:25Um that's what this resolution is.
12:28Um on the tier two side, last year it was 4.73.
12:33We can't do any less than that.
12:36Um this year it's 5.98.
12:38That amount is included in the tentative budget.
12:42Um so we're recommending that we pick up that entire amount.
12:47Otherwise, the employees would have to pay it.
12:49So I'm did you say it's not in the tender budget?
12:58Yeah, these amounts are included in the tentative budget.
13:05Any questions for Allison on this item?
13:13I think you're good.
13:18Okay, 2.3 discussion of proposed spring meadows subdivision density in lieu.
13:23I think Brad, this is yours, correct?
13:29I'm stretching my computer to this HD my cable, so hopefully it works.
13:44So just to start off with um uh mayor and counsel, thank you for your time.
13:50Um about a month ago, um, in April, the spring metal subdivision came to you.
13:58And um, as I said on the back, one of the questions that came up is how did in the engineering department come up with our um density numbers?
14:10How did how do we come up with the fact that we felt like that this development was warranted as many as 10 units?
14:16So I just wanted to uh be able to show you kind of how we came up with those calculations and let you just kind of evaluate that.
14:24So um really um simply um this is the um layout that you saw a month ago when the Spring Meadows Villas concept plan came through.
14:36I've taken the liberty to take this layout.
14:38Um in doing so, I highlighted in green the 20% open space that was required for the PUD.
14:47So as you will notice that um all of those uh green areas are that's basically represents the 20% uh requirement, and then that the area in yellow is the area that was left over that they were proposing to dedicate to the city as part of their development.
15:06So I just wanted to go through these calculations really quickly.
15:15But I'll so and please stop me if if you have any questions as I go along.
15:20So just going through the basic numbers for the subdivision.
15:25Their original allowed density for 33.17 acres was the 1.75 units per acre.
15:33That's based on their IR, the R122 zoning.
15:37So their base density was uh 58 lots.
15:41Um much like the um the Willis subdivision that dedicated the dragonfly park.
15:49Let me just move over to that one really quick, if I could, just so that you can see that one.
15:54So just to the west of here, um, this subdivision to the west was the Willis subdivision.
16:00I don't remember the exact name, but essentially when this subdivision came through the city, um, much of this property downward dragonfly park was well, it was owned by the developer, and uh it was all ESA, much like this property is um below the spring meadow subdivision.
16:19So, what we've allowed from a density standpoint is um one lot per five acres in the ESA area.
16:28So essentially what we did is when they dedicated all the dragonfly park, we totaled up that acreage, um, gave them one unit per five acres, and they moved that density up into the up into the upper portion.
16:42Um so now back on to uh back onto this subdivision.
16:48Um they had approximately 18.29 acres left over, which equated to at one unit per five acres equated of 3.7 lots, so that gave them a total of 61 lots.
17:01Uh well, 61.7, so we rounded up to 62.
17:05So we called that their base density 62 units.
17:09Um so then what we did is we came through and we said, well, how much would the city need to pay for the various improvements that were requiring of the development?
17:21So let me just go back to the first page again.
17:24So by code, we would reimburse um the developer for the right way and pavement along 1630 south.
17:33Um we have um we've also um determined that in order for a roadway to uh pass through the development and on to um and onto Pony Express Park, we wanted that roadway to be a little bit wider.
17:49Um as you you can and so we determined that if we if we widened that road, say by six feet or so, and we paid them for that, which we would we would have to pay them for that because we required the road to be wider.
18:04So I included that in the costs, and we included the right way for Pony Express Parkway, because that's a right way that we would need to purchase anyways for the for the roadway as Pony Express Park would come through.
18:19And then we also calculated the value of the trail, um, not the open space, but because the open so open space they would dedicate as part of their 20%.
18:29So we just calculated the value of the trail.
18:31So let me go on to the so here we have the trail cost, the 16 south, 1630 south widening, 16 east widening, the Pony Express Rideway, and then what we did is we took the area of that 10.38 acres on the lake side, and because it's um because it's in the ESA and because it's um more of a wetland area, we didn't feel like that it was warranted full value of property.
19:02It's just not worth the full value of the property.
19:04So we assigned it approximately 50% of its of its value.
19:10So that what that does is it totals up to approximately 2.4 million dollars.
19:16So then what we do is we take that 2.4 million dollars and we divide it by the purchase price of the property.
19:24So this is the price that they purchased the property for.
19:28So obviously, as we go through different areas of the city, different developers are paying different prices for the property.
19:34So this so we require that they share that with us.
19:38In this case, they paid approximately 287,000 per acre for the property.
19:49Um, and so we just divide the value by that property cost per acre, and it essentially says that's that's a value of 8.4, basically 8.5 acres.
20:01So then we take the 8.5 acres and we times it by their density again, and we come up with what we felt like could be allowed was 14.9 lots.
20:11Now we didn't we felt like that number was was very high.
20:16Um so we but we did feel like that maybe 10 acres or 10 lots would be more applicable to this to this project.
20:26We didn't want to just immediately just give them 15 lots.
20:29So we settled on what we felt comfortable with between engineering and planning at a number of 10 lots.
20:36So that's how we came up with that number, and I'm willing to answer any questions that you might have or comments.
20:45Mayor, if I may, I just really appreciate this.
20:48I I know um over the years we talk about all of this, and I know we've had conversations like this before, but it's really nice to see it this way.
20:56So thank you for putting it together like this.
21:01Oh go ahead, Rachel.
21:04I this made a lot more sense to me seeing the numbers.
21:08I'm a numbers person than just hearing that it's density and loo.
21:14Like it just helped it helped me to to understand it better.
21:19Brad for the parcel A, so the 10.3 acres, what would the city do with that?
21:25Is that just gonna stay kind of wild and or is it gonna be maintained?
21:29What's the cost of the city on that?
21:31So the um on the Willis subdivision, it obviously became Dragonfly Park.
21:37In the in the case of this property, I would expect that this property will likely be needed as a wetlands mitigation area for the Pony Express Parkway road.
21:48Um, you know, as we as we build the road as we take out wetlands that are jurisdictionally, you know, the jurisdictional wetlands, then we have to replace those.
21:59Either we have to create new wetlands or we have to improve wetlands that are out there.
22:04So I expect that we would use that property.
22:06Um we did the same thing out at um Jordan Willows.
22:10Um I'm not sure if you're familiar.
22:12I'm happy to share that with you if you want.
22:15But when we did the main street project, we went in and improved and enhance some wetlands in the Jordan Willows area.
22:22Um, and in that case, the um there is some there is some portion of cost.
22:29Um let me just go ahead and pull that up if if I may.
22:32Um it shouldn't take too long here.
22:35So I'll just pull up what we did at the main with the main street project.
22:40So if I can get my bearings here.
22:45Okay, so here's the Jordan Willows.
22:48This is the Jordan Willows area.
22:52This section right here, we enhanced and created new wetlands as part of the project.
22:58We also installed this boardwalk across the wetlands.
23:01So this is all these are all enhancements that we ended up doing as part of the main street project.
23:07Um, just for your information, as part of the main street project, um, we're required by the core to maintain that area for five years and keep the the plants and vegetation growing.
23:19So I worked up in our agreement with the county that they leave the project open for that five years so that we could then use project cost to keep and maintain spray and install new trees and whatnot in that area for those five years, and then once uh we passed that five-year time frame, the core generally feels like those those plants are you know they're established, they take less time to maintain.
23:45So, yeah, there is some there's definitely some enhancements, but generally speaking, from the standpoint of the core, we have to do that for five years.
23:54And my intention is to again uh require that of the of the project that we were funded through the county, and that's actually in the contract.
24:03Okay, but I guess as far as anything beyond just wetlands, are there gonna be sidewalks?
24:10Are there gonna be any like places where public and you know people can go or or is it just gonna be left fairly untouched but somewhat improved?
24:21So it it really depends.
24:22Uh let me move back down to the area we're discussing on this one.
24:29So you can see um in yellow or this kind of orange color shows the approximate location of the Pony Express Parkway trail or the Prone Express Parkway roadway.
24:42Also, as part of that project, we have contracted with Utah County to extend the North Utah Lake Trail, which runs along the south side of North Lake Park.
24:53So depending on whether that trail runs straight east and ties over, or whether it runs up along the roadway and follows the roadway.
25:02If it follows the roadway, obviously there's a little bit less of a maintenance issue on that.
25:06It's easier for us to maintain when it's next to a roadway.
25:10But if we do extend it through the wetlands, my understanding is that that's a county trail.
25:16And so I think they have to maintain.
25:18Is that correct, Kim?
25:19They they maintain the trail currently through Saratoga.
25:23So anyways, yeah, so that's my understanding that depending on where the alignment of the trail ends up being, it obviously changes things.
25:36So on the open space, that parallel line area, is that calculated at 50%, the corridor open space?
25:44Uh the 10.38 shown on the map here.
25:47No, the one uh over in the development, the power corridor.
25:52You want me to go back to the Google image?
25:55Uh no, right here where it's like 0.49.95, the power corridor trail.
26:02Now again, we just went off of the layout that was proposed before.
26:08I think if it's under a power line, it's only counting.
26:12It is underneath the power line.
26:14And so it essentially mimics the open space area that was south of here in the Spring Creek development.
26:20You can see that open space area.
26:22So even if that so that's, I mean, it's two acres, but it would count as one acre towards their 20% requirement, but are they still over anyways on open space?
26:32Um well, the way this was set out here, I I drew this line in.
26:36The line between the green and the yellow because I want to determine how much extra they were giving.
26:41The whole thing is all open space as part of their space.
26:43Yeah, it's all the green and the yellow both all are all open space.
26:46I think wetlands are also 50%.
26:49Uh that is that is true, but but generally speaking, the thing to remember is years ago when they the developer went in and filled this area, they took it out of the wetlands.
27:02You can see that if you look on the um aerial, see how they've filled this in.
27:07This is no longer part of wetlands or part of the FEMA floodplain.
27:12So you know, again, when we ran our calcs, it's somewhat rough, right?
27:17I mean, we're doing our best to estimate the density.
27:20Yeah, no, my question was just like it's being calculated at what it's required for to make sure that there's still 20% open space value.
27:29I mean, in the case of the development that they proposed, yeah, we're obviously getting much more than 20%.
27:35And honestly, when I spoke with uh, if I go back to this layout here, when I spoke to the to um MAG regarding the Pony Express Parkway roadway, um, as you may remember, um, we have a a lot, we have six million dollars for this roadway to of quarter preservation funds, but they indicated that these like like um open space that's off the roadway corridor would be super hard for us to buy with quarter preservation funds.
28:07And so that's another benefit I think that we're getting that we would be getting.
28:11This is dedicated to the city because I I literally can't really go and buy property so far off the corridor with quarter preservation funds.
28:22I could buy it with project funds, but not quarter preservation funds.
28:27And also this you know, mimic what others have said, it's really awesome to see the breakdown of the numbers.
28:34I know that was something when in planning commission we had to make these density in lieu of, we're just like we don't know what the value is.
28:40It's also great to see here's what the value is, but also to have that because I always pictured it as a way like the city should benefit 50% develop, you know, we're partnering on this density in lieu of, so we don't have to spend millions on improvements, but at the same time it should be something where the city does gain even more from doing that.
29:00So it uh like you showed that part too, so I appreciate that.
29:08Any other questions for any other thoughts?
29:13Uh I just have a question.
29:14And just I think the goal tonight would be you know, obviously, I just wanted to explain to you how we came up with our numbers, but then the ultimate goal would be to get some direction from you as a council how you feel that this subdivision should move forward.
29:29If you feel comfortable with what we've done, then I believe that they would come forward with roughly the same plan.
29:36Um, or if you had any changes you wanted to make to it, then they would bring those forward um in two weeks on the 26th.
29:44But that that's that would be my hope is that we can get some, you know.
29:48First of all, are you okay with the density as proposed, or do you have any suggestions so that um I know Tony's in the back here representing the developer?
30:00So if we could just give them some guidance to what our feelings are so they know how to move forward.
30:05Mayor, if I may, I think like the two things I look for when we talk about stuff like this is infrastructure, which Pony Express obviously is a critical need and a critical road for our community, and then public benefit.
30:19Um and talking about the 10 units and where the public benefit is.
30:24Um I think that's why the calculations you've done a great job of demonstrating the give and take here.
30:30Um so those are the two things I look for when having this conversation.
30:35I think this application has met those, but I'm absolutely open to hearing what the council has to say.
30:40And if I haven't seen something that you guys see, I'd love to know about it.
30:46So when let's pretend he comes back in two weeks.
30:50We are just approving basically the density.
30:52Is that what we're looking for?
30:55Because from what I understand is we can't have these two roads that are too close to each other, 610 East, 530 East.
31:02There's some regulation about how close an intersection can be, and some things like that that we were talking about before.
31:10So I don't know if we need to have it done a little differently so that we can visualize it and see what the plan is.
31:20But I mean I'm comfortable with this density as explained.
31:26Maybe I could just hit maybe I could just weigh in on the on the roadway, the close proximity of those.
31:32I'm not sure my um Oh, I think the whoever's could I maybe just show the show it on the screen one more time.
31:40Um I've talked to Lauren, we've talked to Lauren about the close proximity of 610 east to 530 east.
31:46There are some allowances that we allow within our code for access management where the city engineer can make that call and determine whether the the benefit, you know, the the benefit to the entire public and the good um we can waive those requirements just a little bit.
32:04We would say that our preference would be the 610 east would be the connecting street, not 530 east.
32:12Um so I I think that would be a recommendation that we would make to the developer.
32:17But generally speaking, after talking with Lauren, um and we even talked with Luke a little bit about it, you know, he he kind of helps us a little bit while we're waiting for our uh engineer to be hired.
32:30We've we we do feel comfortable uh now just seeing the overall benefit of everything to have this roadway right here.
32:38And so we we would support that.
32:41I just remember that from DRC.
32:45But then looking at the overall benefit, we've let's just say we've kind of changed our mind on that one and we feel comfortable with it.
32:52I think I'm overall supportive.
32:54Um just a question on the timing.
32:56So for this development.
32:58What's the expected timing of construction and completion as well as the expected timing with Pony Express?
33:07I'm just trying to figure out is it gonna be around the same time?
33:11I'm I'm sure this will be done long before Pony Express, but I'm just curious what the timing is.
33:16Yeah, I think um based on the fact that you probably will see a contract from our design engineer um on the 26th.
33:26We don't expect that any construction will begin until most likely 2020, the spring of 2028.
33:33My guess is that this subdivision and the stub road into the roadway would be built beforehand, but but that would be really up to the developer.
33:42I I couldn't answer that question.
33:49I again I appreciate this.
33:52It's it's always nice to have the numbers, so I appreciate the work you went to.
33:56Um question and maybe some concerns, but with the the trail, the construction cost of the trail, so the developer would be putting that in.
34:07Uh yes, the the developer would be installing I I think I've got this right.
34:13The developer would be installing the trail along the corridor, and that those three green areas, that would be dedicated open space to the city that this city would be maintaining.
34:26Um just just some concerns I have.
34:32It some of this open space counts for the PUD, but it's I'm looking at the green on the the left.
34:41Um it doesn't it seems like it's not very useful open space for the development.
34:48Um that's kind of a concern of mine.
34:51Um then of course the other one is just the cost to maintain the wetland area.
35:00Um I was just thinking, I'm glad we got that Fragmite Mower because we'll probably be using it over there.
35:06Um so maybe when you present formally to the city council or however it goes.
35:14Um I kind of would like to hear, I guess, from Steve of the costs associated with that or plans.
35:22I mean, if it could be a county trail and they maintain it, that's great for us kind of thing.
35:26But um I I get that it's needed for the road and it's a benefit that way, but it's also add uh cost.
35:35So um maybe just hearing a little more about that later would be.
35:39Yeah, we I mean I I would not generally be uh presenting the subdivision to you that would be the developer, but but we could definitely have Steve come and weigh in and he's got that feedback, so maybe talk to Steve.
35:55I mean I I can help, but um generally the developer would be presenting it.
35:59But um we just they just wanted to know what our thought you know what your thoughts were if you were generally in support of it.
36:05If so, they would proceed with probably the main change would just be six ten east tying directly into the road instead of five thirty east.
36:19Any other questions?
36:22I think Tony, do you feel like that gives you guidance?
36:30Okay, let's go to uh item number three.
36:34Any agenda questions on the agenda that uh is before you for tonight?
36:42I I just have a question on the land purchase that we the council approved, but now we're having the public hearing.
36:50Is that why do we do it that way?
36:54Because we missed it.
36:55Oh, so there's a definite there's a term in state called called significant parcel of real property.
37:01And so if the way it's defined is that more than an acre that we've owned for more than a year or a year or more, then you have to have a public hearing if you're going to dispose of the a significant parcel of real property.
37:14And all three of us just totally forgot.
37:18So I just wondered if it was a state weird state code.
37:20Yeah, we're just correcting an oversight.
37:26Any other questions?
37:27Um I was just gonna make sure everyone was aware that the X development code uh amendment.
37:34Um they weren't ready for tonight.
37:36They so anyways, we we'll plan on them in two weeks, the end of the months.
37:44Jason, any uh administrative reports?
37:48Um maybe just a quick update for the council.
37:51So we uh we met as a with the mayor and the budget committee uh today.
37:56Uh we talked about some of the budget priorities and direction that the council gave us yesterday.
38:02Um it by no means are we done, but we are uh working to put together something that I hope reflects all of your desires, or maybe none of your desires.
38:12I don't know, maybe it'll fail zero to five, but um hopefully we'll we get something that we can all come to consensus to.
38:19So again, that'll be a few days before we can get something out to you.
38:22Um just want to make sure we get the numbers right.
38:29Council uh mayor council reports, any reports anyone would like to share.
38:38Um I attended the Parks, Trails and Trees Committee meeting last week, and they have some I um dates to note on May 28th.
38:49There's an open space and trails master plan, community engagement plan.
38:55So that's something that they're going to try to get some resident feedback on and um something that's gonna be coming up to look at.
39:02And then on June 6th, there's a National Trails Day, Trails Appreciation and Education Event.
39:09And it's um CTMT, the Travers Mountain Trail Association is leading it, but it's supported by the city as well.
39:18So something to know.
39:20Where will that event be on the 28th?
39:23I wish that the someone from Parks is here to tell us.
39:27So um they will be the Parks Trails and Chase Committee, I think is going to join us at the next city council meeting.
39:39I think it's been on the calendar for a while to talk about upcoming park priorities and kind of their vision of what how they see themselves being utilized.
40:00Uh just a shout out to the historical society and the Carter Airport event that we had, what was it, a couple couple weekends ago.
40:06And yeah, and everybody that participated in that.
40:09I know that Michelle and Heather are very active, and I know the pens are still in China at the time, unfortunately.
40:16But hopefully they arrived.
40:20And it's probably one of my favorites.
40:22But yeah, just I think those are really awesome, and it it provides a unique um perspective on history.
40:29That I mean, I had no idea there was an airport in Lehigh before that.
40:33Um at this point, you could probably only fly clipes off of that airport drive.
40:38But um, but thank you for all involved with that.
40:42Thank you for speaking.
40:43So that our next one is this Saturday.
40:46Rachel gets to speak, and it will be for the Lehigh Tabernacle.
40:50So this Saturday, May 16th at 10 a.m.
40:53at 200 North Center Street.
40:55You of course are all invited to that.
41:03Um great Lehigh Arts Council um meeting.
41:07They've got Tuck Everlasting going on right now through the 16th, and then Frozen, they're doing uh in July.
41:14You they would love to have you guys attend, you know, reach out.
41:18I can probably work some tickets out or something through them.
41:22Um Tucker, we went and saw Tuck Everlasting.
41:24That's pretty cool because they had um a moving turntable on the stage.
41:29So they were really ambitious with this one in that little theater.
41:31Um frozen's gonna be at Lehigh High, which I'm really excited about because when they rebuilt that, they built it as a performing for theater stage.
41:39So they've got a so it's a great place to have frozen at.
41:42So some fun stuff this summer.
41:45Well, I'll just chime in.
41:47I really enjoyed going to the Curtis Center and seeing the Hope of America um presentation.
41:52That was really, really cool.
41:54Getting a tour of the facility.
41:56Um and then I also had the opportunity to do the um Jordan River Commission board member duties.
42:04And um just as a quick question, I believe it's been brought up before.
42:09I know that I was assigned to that, but do we need to do like an official appointment for board members?
42:16For what board again?
42:20I think we do require an appointment for resolution.
42:23Um could you get me maybe just a contact with them?
42:28Yeah, I just wanted to check in.
42:29I'm I'm in it and I'm voting at meetings, so we should yeah, we should make sure that gets done.
42:35But anyway, thank you.
42:38Any other I've got two.
42:40Um next week is high school graduation for two high schools.
42:43Remember, I know we've been invited to both.
42:45If you can make it, that's great.
42:47Both of those will be at BYU in the Marriott Center.
42:49Skyrige, I believe, is first early in the morning, and then Lehigh High School follows right after.
42:54Um the other piece of information.
42:56I got a call today from Mr.
42:58Mike Southwick, who is the president of the seat currently president of the CIA.
43:02We uh as council members and our spouses or a significant other have been invited to ride in the wagon for all four days of the rodeo.
43:12So the wagon may not fit us all, so there may be some days that you can't do or some days that you can.
43:19So I will send an email probably tomorrow.
43:21Well, probably tonight or tomorrow, just with those dates.
43:24If what dates you're available or you're coming, let us know.
43:27Um they'll get you on the wagon.
43:29Uh other days that you won't be there, no problem, you won't be in the wagon.
43:32Are they the racing wagons?
43:33We are not racing the wagon.
43:35We are in the wagon.
43:36I believe we'll be in the wagon that is safely goes around and returns safely.
43:40However, I've had some interesting rides on horses.
43:46Southwick reached out, I'll send out an email with those dates, and you can reply accordingly as to which dates you're available and which ones you're not available.
43:52That of course is uh uh Lehigh Roundup Week, which is the last full week of June.
43:58So uh that was it for that.
44:00Any other uh comments before we adjourn our work session?
44:05Mayor, I think we just did the fastest work session, like this is our record, right?
44:10Well, for this council.
44:11Yeah, this is could be it.
44:13Now Bo's got something he'd like to share.
44:16I just wanted to answer uh Rachel's question.
44:19Um Hidden Canyon Trailhead, that event will be at um it's gonna be they'll get they'll get some more information out of the council soon.
44:29Okay, with that I'm happy to take uh adjournment.
44:36Can I ask a question?
44:40Work session is over, so you can just I mean yeah, let's go ahead and adjourn, then you can ask questions.
44:47So I have a motion to adjourn.
45:02Woods, most of the and can't.
45:09And I would like to take you guys on a tour of my land.
45:13I mean if that'd be all possible.
45:15I figured somebody said this would be the easiest way to contact y'all.
45:19And so I'd I can probably take three of you at a time.
45:27I I live whether you're putting the new well in on 12th East.
45:32As some of you know.
45:33But uh I'd like to just take you on a tour, show you what I have.
45:44But I hate Highland.
45:45I just leave bringing in to Lehigh.
45:48You guys need to see it.
45:50So I would recommend it.
45:53I've driven your land with you.
45:54I've driven your land with you.
45:55I'd recommend going and doing it, because it's seal your deer and everything.
46:00I I didn't recognize you right off, but I I'm new at this place.
46:06Anyway, if I could work that out somehow.
46:11Do you mind sharing with me your contact information?
46:13I'll have Sherry contact you and we can set that up.
46:19You want me to have Sherry reach out to you?
46:22I can I can do that.
46:23Just tell her Gary Cooper.
46:25Because she's kind of a hard woman to get a hold of.
46:31So I will uh I'll reach out to Haver and we'll I do have her private number, so you know it's one of those bills.