Oh, it missed the hello.

Oh, you're the chair.

Yes.

I'm in one.

Do you call it to order?

I'm about to do this as I switched my glasses so I can read it correctly.

All right.

Thank you all for being here.

And for patiently waiting for me.

I apologize.

Everybody knows how much I hate being late, so you know I'm angry with myself than you are.

So I'm gonna call this to order for the beer.

So no worries, no worries.

He just walked into it.

I literally about a minute ahead of you.

So anyway, uh we really have one thing broken down in little parts on the uh agenda, and it is the 2027 budget.

Sure.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Uh so included a memo, hopefully with some highlights.

Uh so we did break it up again between personnel and operating expenses because right now we are really just looking at operating expenses, salaries and wages, and then the the things that come with personnel will be decided upon, and you didn't talk about later at the speed level.

Um so as I also said, I did prepare it in the new structure.

Um both Pam and Margaret were at the personnel committee meeting, so um, they would be able to really speak very much on that subject if wanted.

Um, but everything with the new or with yeah, current current one with the new one will show the eliminations and where things are moving too.

Um, but I did prepare the current structure as well just to make sure everything balanced, and I didn't forget a budget line somewhere along the way, and it did.

So um I was happy about that.

Um so we kept status quo.

Um, besides those movement things, there were no other changes in operating expenses, except for a little bit for the um for the annual bill on the automated material handlers are AMH, right?

Where is the OCL CLC online catalog and up a couple hundred dollars?

Yeah, um but and then of course um I don't know yet the insurance on the building that comes from Sean Alfred Finance at a later date.

So he told me just to put in what was there, correct?

So that's the only but that may fluctuate.

So should we just go right to questions or where people want to talk?

Sure.

Margaret.

Wait, salary and wages.

This year it was 560,572, and next year it's going to be salaries and wages.

Okay, go ahead.

Well, am I on the wrong thing?

And then next year it says it's only 444 43,490.

So I just wanted to know kind of what happened is that we haven't put in any cost of living raises yet.

Okay.

So there's so those increases aren't there.

So those aren't added in.

So you're looking at last year, there was a cost of living raise and insurance increase from those numbers.

They were already added in personnel, and this year we haven't added anything.

And that and that is because the city which one are you on?

What page are you looking at too?

Pay expenses or just it says public.

Under the public services one.

The city works all those numbers late in the budget process, and there's well, like the other insurance, there's not much you can do for this.

But the budget's dropping 21%.

That's the question.

I just you're talking about specifically in public services.

Is that what you're gonna do?

Okay, not just overall.

You're talking specifically this one.

Like how called it.

Okay, okay.

We had two um positions that are not being refilled.