I'd like to call the finance committee to order.

The first item on the agenda is to approve the minutes from July 29.

Make a motion to approve.

Second.

The motion has been made and second.

All those in favor, raise your right hand.

Three.

Three oh.

Plus John.

All right.

The next item we'll take uh supplemental income, I guess, together hotel motel tax and auto rental tax.

Good evening, Chairman, Council, Mayor.

The first item that I have is the hotel.

The monthly collections total 380,516 for the month.

This is above the three-year average for the month of July, and that three-year average is $370,104.

July for 2025 was much lower due to the delayed payments received.

The following month, there are three locations that are two months behind on their remittance payments.

So we're looking into that as well, and I'll have an update on that next month.

The next one I have is the 3% auto.

This is well below the three-year average of approximately 132,000.

The variance is primarily due to the abnormally high sales that we received in FY 2024, and it had the highest month, which was the month of July, with the collections reaching 216,000 that year.

So that was a normally abnormally high year that year.

We also had some collections that came in from the prior month that rolled into that month.

So that did increase some of the sales for that.

So that does skew that just a bit.

Some may have received them already.

So the final of the batch will is anticipated to be out by Friday.

So everyone, all of the bills will be received mailed in in the delivery process by Friday.

We'll have a state insurance refund that we'll we'll receive.

They were sent out as of August 15th.

The deadline for the alcohol renewals is November 15.

So we'll have revenues coming in for that as well.

So that'll help as we go toward the end of the calendar year and transition into the new second half of the fiscal year.

And that concludes my report.

Did we have a sheet for the finance update in the packet on the You do not?

But I can include that going forward if you'd like.

Thank you.

Any questions?

Was you are you ready for a motion?

Yes.

Motions received and file.

Second.

Motion did made and second.

All those in favor, raise your right hand.

3-0.

Thank you.

Next item on the finance agenda is the revised MOU for SRO for the Marietta City Schools.

Okay.

This is actually just an update.

There was some hesitation.

We have talked with the school board about the increase.

And just for the record, what the the amount of money that we're discussing as far as the increase, it is in total 28,000.

Part of that, if you look at you know, um their actuals versus what they're looking to do.

If we do apples comparisons, apples to apples comparison is about 15,000.

They are looking to increase some of the SROs that they're utilizing, so it that'll expand it.

So that's part of the other difference between the um 15,000 that we were talking about previously and what they're looking to do each year.

So instead of having five SROs, they'll have seven.

One of them is a supervisor, so they you know increases the cost there a little bit.

And so we have talked them.

I spoke with school board, um, the uh CFO there as early as today.

They are still reviewing it as of right now.

Um it looks as though we'll we will be able to move forward.

They'll take it to the board in the next couple of weeks.

So basically they're operating right now without a contract.

Yes, ma'am.

Not what we prefer.

Yeah.

Yes.

Um because it's still an evolving situation with the school board.

Should this just be kept on the agenda, like move to a work session to see if there's any other updates?

I think that'd probably be a good idea.

Because that has was just said we need to get this done as quick as possible since we don't have a contract.

Would you like a motion, Mr.

Chair?

Yes.

I make a motion to move this forward to the agenda work session.

Second.

Motion's been made and second.

All those in favor raise your right hand.

Thank you.

3-0 passes.

Thanks.

Um another well, there's not an item on the agenda, but uh would like to uh have permission to discuss the status of the SPLOS coming up.

I can I can just give an update.

Uh it wouldn't be an action item that would be on the agenda to move forward or anything, but uh unless somebody wanted to amend the agenda later to add something, but I can sure give an update.

I know the mayor has been involved even as of today.

Um so uh yeah, the um we had a meeting with Cobb County to discuss uh where the SPLOST is at this point as far as their planning, and uh they're still working on their projects internally.

They're not their departments are not supposed to get all their projects to the commissioners until October.

Um we do have a draft list that we have pretty much prepared from staff that includes uh just really about everything that uh has been brought up uh either through the last SBLOST or uh since then uh through council or or even individuals that have suggested different things.

Um that list has had to be whittled down pretty heftily uh because of the amount of money that I'm about to tell you that uh that we're gonna have.

Um when you go through the process, y'all will may remember uh every time that we have to have this with the county.

Um state law changed a good while ago, uh, and actually Marietta was not in favor of it, and we uh tried to fight it, but uh ACCG and uh GMA were both in favor of it.

And actually Marietta was not in favor of it, and we uh tried to fight it, but uh ACCG and uh GMA were both in favor of it.

And uh, and I get why they were because in a lot of counties all over the state, uh there it there wasn't equity because the um the amount of votes that were in the city, the small cities in no way would influence the overall vote.

And so you had counties where the counties were just making the decisions on what uh was going to be on the SPLOST, and the uh the cities were really cut out of it.

So uh GMA was getting a lot of pressure uh from many, many counties, cities that are in counties all over the state.

Um we were in a very uh good position as opposed to those cities, and that uh when you add the different cities together in Cobb, that can influence the vote and can make it where a spLOS would not pass if all the cities were against it.

So we had traditionally worked it out with the county and uh would sit down and uh divide it up according to population and everybody would get their amount and move forward.

Uh well when the state went in and changed the law, uh they uh created this category that you have to take money out for first, and that's projects of countywide benefit.

And so uh as an example, last uh SPLOSS, the current SPLOSS we're in, the county put 46 million dollars into that countywide benefit, and they had things you know, dealing with uh the towers with uh the 911 system, different things like that in there.

Um this year they're proposing instead of 46 million, they're proposing 216 million to come off the top.

And so uh that obviously will greatly impact the amount of money that the cities will get uh in a negative way.

Um the estimate that uh Cobb is using right now that they're telling us to draft, then these are all draft uh numbers.

Uh they're not final at all.

Sure, yes, sir.

Like the 46 in 2022, that was consistent for all the prior sponsors before.

Yes, sir.

It was right less than eight or ten percent.

This was about twenty-five.

Very good point.

Yeah, it was very similar, and then all of a sudden we have this, which is not similar at all.

Um, and uh the reason that they're saying they need this much are for two projects.

Um one is forty-one million dollars, which would be the um replacement and upgrade of the public safety radio system that we all use.

Um, and there's some not just cities in the county, but you you've got KSU and others that use it too.

Uh, and so they're looking at 41 million dollars there, but the big one is 175 million dollars for a new state courthouse, uh which they would propose to put uh very near to us, uh, kind of across from the fire department.

Uh at least as I said, this is all draft.

This is not final at all, so I'm not making some statement for the county.

I'm just saying what they're telling us they're looking at.

Um and so uh you add those two together and you get that 216 million dollars.

There can be some question as to whether the state court building should be a project of countywide uh use and benefit uh when not a lot of our cases or city cases in general are tried by that court.

It's mostly not.

Um it's mostly county cases that are tried by that court.

Uh I a couple of the cities have looked at it, and I think we've you know we've got less than five percent of our total cases end up going over there.

Um so uh and I don't know what percent, because I'd have to get their numbers, I don't know what percent that is of total cases they try.

I mean, we may be talking you know two percent or one percent or something of total cases.

Um and the way that the cases get over there, there's some that are written on uh state charges, and so those have to go.

Uh but the the majority probably are um cases where individuals want a jury trial, and so they we don't do jury trials, so then they bind it over to the state court.

Uh so uh that in in order to kind of get the point across, they took all of us uh on a tour through the state court building and showed us um you know areas that are not up to what they believe they should be.

But um anyway, that's uh that's what they're looking at.

Uh by doing that, then um we end up going down to uh 58 million.

Um and if you remember the current SPLOS, we're at 56 million.

So uh the when you put inflation in, that means we're gonna get less money than we're getting now, uh, and we'll be able to do less project-wise than we're able to do now with the current.

Uh now we all know that the current SPLOSS was estimated a certain amount, but it's bringing in a lot more than uh it was estimated to do, so we are gonna have more money than you know than the fifty-six million dollars.

Um I imagine the same thing unless the economy really went in the tank uh would be the same way with this one.

Um that they're gonna probably bring in more money than the nine hundred and fifty million that they're estimating.

Uh and so we would get more, but the problem is we you can't, as a council program more than that money which they're telling us that we're gonna get.

You can have a second tier or whatever we want to call it, um, that could be brought up if if that extra money comes in.

But uh you can't put it out there as um these are the actual projects that we're gonna do with that uh fifty-eight million dollars.

So uh that's that's gonna be a tough one for us.

And Mayor, I don't know if uh you have an update discussions going on.

That's pretty much the way to go in.

I mean, from what I've heard, and the other cities are concerned with it too.

Well question, could we challenge them on that being that if not countywide?

Um good question.

I mean, there's really no mechanism uh out there at this point.

Uh there's no body you go to and um there's no method to challenge in that code.

Yeah.

The challenge would be with the voters.

But I was what I was thinking of is that the fact that it's not benefiting countywide.

Uh we go take them to core over.

Um I don't I don't we would not have a high percentage of prevailing.

Oh and be in state court.

If we might do hold it'd be the same, we get zero.

Yeah.

Yeah, the mayor's point is is exactly what we gotta worry about is yeah, if if we do if we were not to get uh the next splost, uh all our road most of our road paving, uh stormwater work, bridge work, uh paying for police cars, uh fire trucks, building rehab, um, all that would be gone, and uh then we would be in a real bad situation with trying to find fifty million dollars that we would not have.

In the current response to 2022.

Are we gonna be able to finish 80 percent of them?

Even though the it's gone up, inflation has gone up more.

Yeah, let me I can bring Mark down, uh he's tracking the different projects.

What what a what percentage effect would you say the inflation has on the It's a hard one to say because uh there I mean obviously you know what happened to us when we bid out the Rottenwood Creek Trail.

I mean that thing came in well above 100 percent more than what we thought it was gonna be.

I mean, and uh you know our fire trucks, we know what's happened to those.

Um they've increased, you know, over fifty percent.

Uh and then you have some, you know, police cars, same thing.

Uh we've got some areas where it's going up, you know, fifteen, twenty percent, but we got a lot that are going up a lot more than that.

So uh to answer the mayor's question, we feel like we'll be able to complete all of the projects that are the name projects with with this on on the current splots.

Um within the m with the money that we are receiving right now.

Um, we have enough money left to go to the tier two projects and we'll have to kind of wait and see how that goes out a little bit longer.

Um they they're gonna be I know there'll be one project um that we will discuss later on tonight uh whether or not we have enough money to how far we get into construction with that one.

But but other than that, uh we'll we'll get everything completed that we we have planned uh with all the projects, yes.

Mr.

Chair, may I?

Yes.

Um one just doing a quick inflation calculator from January one of twenty twenty-two to now it's been somewhere on if you did one dollar back in twenty uh January twenty twenty two that's now a dollar and fifteen dollars uh down by a dollar and fifteen now, so there's been about fifteen percent inflation uh over this time period, but that's overall.

I know for concrete and some other building materials, that's probably gone up a whole lot more than just that.

Is that correct, Mark?

Yeah, we're we're seeing about a 30-35 percent increase in construction materials.

And Griff, here in the construction industry, you're seeing about the same.

Yeah, yeah.

I just paid a bill.

The uh the other thing is, as you were saying on this, we can't reach the tier two projects or even other tiers outside the tier one without first completing the tier one projects themselves.

So it'll um get is something on a tier one project, that means it gets the first thing if it's on tier one B or Tier Two or something like that.

You can't get to that until you finish off that first.

Correct.

The only way to do it is declare that you cannot finish that project because there's something that has happened that just makes it impossible.

Yes.

It has to either be economically infeasible or engineering and infeasible.

And the mayor and council has to make that determination.

Yeah.

So are you finished?

I'm finished.

Thank you.

So how much money would we need to do the proposed projects?

What would you like to probably don't want to hear the number?

Yeah.

Yeah, the number that uh when all the departments just put the projects down and uh uh because we went to every one of them and said, you know, what do you need?

And I and I'll say I don't think they were putting a lot of fluff in there.

They were putting projects that were really needed as we go forward.

Uh when we added them all up, I mean it was many times what we're gonna have.

Uh currently with everything total, as Bill was saying, we're at about 212 million dollars.

Okay.

No, go ahead.

But you have a little kick in the in the sales tax when we started taxing Amazon and 2020.

I don't think they figured that budget and then they changed the state law for sales and use tax.

Yeah, we've got we've gotten more money when uh because of the outside of the state uh vendors, definitely, and we've gotten more in the hotel motel because of that also.

Because of uh doing all the Airbnb rentals.

The point really is if they say we're getting the same as we did before that that's already included that tremendous amount of money.

Good point.

Yeah, they they estimated around 750 last time.

They're going up 950 this time.

Um probably will be higher, just like the current is Okay.

What was 750?

Yeah, the 2022 estimate that they had uh for the one we're in right now, which we're exceeding.

We're exceeding yeah, just just to give you a number, just it's and it's in your packet for the 2022 SPLOS, but uh currently to date on the 2022 SPLOS, we have collected 57.7 million dollars in revenue.

We were budgeted for the entire SPLOSS, 56.5 million.

So we've already halfway through the SPLOSS, we've already exceeded the entire SPLOSS budget for revenue.

Um that gives you any indication of how well the revenues are coming in, you have a question.

Yeah, just a kind of a crazy question.

Okay, let's say the SPLOS didn't pass, and you know, we're we don't have fifty million that we thought we were gonna have.

And the only thing that we could do was raise taxes.

What what percentage of that would be based, let's say over a four-year period?

I mean, what what percentage would we have to upcharge on the taxes?

25 percent or 50 percent, or I think it'd probably be more, yeah.

I mean, like it's a big number, right?

I guess the finance director comes down.

It would be like uh another study in Cobb County.

Johnny asked one question.

I mean, it was just you know, something to think about.

Are we talking about the difference between what we were anticipating receiving um or what we need in total?

I think they're saying uh if if it was a six-year-old.

Yeah, six-year spot.

I mean, what are we talking about?

How much do we have to do to get that uh that money in, the fifty-eight million?

The fifty-eight million is what they're okay.

Um let me say this.

Um I don't think we could have to raise it to a tenth, probably, in order to get that type of money in revenue based off of what we currently receive to give you an idea from a property tax standpoint, we collect approximately $13 million in property tax revenue annually.

So to increase our millage rate by that amount to recover $58 million over a six-year time frame.

It gives you an idea of what we would have to do.

$9.67 million per year.

Right.

So we would almost need to double our property tax.

Wow.

Because the meals should probably take about three million in it.

Yes, sir.

So we go from our millage about 2.75 to 5.75.

Just to do knitting.

Just things we have to do.

Just to keep everything maintained properly and doing the work we need to do.

But aren't we forbidden from promoting the Splash?

Yes.

But we're most mainly talking about if it the cities and the county got hostile.

Folks that don't like taxes would love that.

If we said something bad about a project, voters agree with it.

Right.

And then another way to go after it is since we have proof that was just stated of how low they are going on their estimates.

And also it might force us to borrow money up front like we did twelve years ago.

16.

I mean which is prudent because you fight inflation.

Make a revenue bond.

But this is going to force us to do something.

Right.

Okay.

I mean, the good as we've all said, the good point about the way it works now with the SPLOS is that all the individuals coming into Cobb County and using all of our services, whether it's roads or whatever, they're all paying a portion of that instead of just the property owners.

So we of course do we charge the county uh property tax on their buildings?

No, sir, and that's a very good point.

Uh that sometimes is not made.

Uh is that we have uh obviously a large portion of our city that is not taxed.

Um and not only the you know the county government, but we have all these nonprofits that are located here, including a nonprofit hospital that is located here.

And uh those properties for the most part, none of them are taxed.

You know, school properties, all the rest is all of them.

So we get no tax on the 175 million dollar building movement.

We got we got some very good uh um permit fees for it.

They can't get better.

But anyway, any other questions along this slide?

If not, I will adjourn the finance committee.

Okay.

I'll second those.

All in favor.

Um group benefits.

Thank you for getting that information for me.

You are very welcome.

Uh good evening.

This item is a request to to approve the 2026 employee group benefits program.

Um so each year with the assistance of uh NFP, which is our uh third party administrator broker, um, they conduct per requests for proposals on our behalf for all of our benefits offering except for medical and dental because they were on a guarantee for this year.

So we are very happy to um propose with their projections a zero increase of premiums for employees with our Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Medical and Dental.

Uh they're also proposing that we move our vision plan to anthem.

Uh they're requesting a renewal of our fully insured Medicare Advantage plan.

However, there is a um pretty big increase on that Medicare Advantage plan.

But we've got some communication that we're gonna send out and kind of explain to everyone how that will work.

We also are proposing an increase on our self-insured pharmacy plan, and then we'd like to move our basic life, supplemental life, short-term disability, and long-term disability to Lincoln because their rates are a lot better.

Uh we like to renew our employee paid accident and critical illness with AFLAC.

And we'd like to renew our contract with the clinic because it has been very successful and a very big hit with our employees.

Thank you.

And to remind everybody how we do this, um, we definitely go out for bids.

Uh we have a broker who works with us on that.

Uh so we try to uh get the best coverage at the best cost that we can get.

Uh we'll say on that Medicare Advantage.

We're we're not real excited about the fact that it is going to increase as much as it is, but uh, in looking at the market and the other options we have, this is the least expensive option that there is.

Uh so uh uh um I wish the market was different, but it is not.

Um but the uh the real good news here is that uh for the eighth or eighth year in a row, we have not increased the amount that our employees have to pay for their insurance, and that's the amount they have to pay and the amount they have to pay for their dependents.

Um we're the only government I'm aware of anywhere near here uh that can say that.

Um we've looked at the uh the rate that we were charging before uh we started that policy.

Um and I will say it's an annual policy, it's not something that we that we guarantee we're gonna do uh because the cost is pretty excessive.

But um when we look back, you know, eight years to now, it's a huge difference.

I don't know if you brought those numbers with you.

Yeah, we had our um third party uh do some projections for us.

So as we've stayed flat over the last eight years, um the recommendation would have been to go up about seven percent each year, so that pretty much doubles um the premiums over the last eight years.

So we're saving our employees a lot of money, which they do appreciate.

And then we also benchmarked it uh according to other uh public uh policies that are out there, and we're our folks are paying way less than anybody else.

So um that's uh just another benefit that we provide to our employees, and that is one of the reasons why when we showed you the take-home pay calculator.

That's one of the reasons why our take-home pay is so high compared to comparative jobs in other places because we're just not taking that out of their check to pay for health insurance.

So Mr.

Chair.

Yeah.

Umly question I have is mostly on the Well Star contract.

The well the current Well SAR contract, I think was done at the beginning of our term, close to the beginning of our term of council in 2022.

And uh was scheduled to end at the end of this end of this calendar year, which is the end of the turn of this term of council.

Um the renewal goes out to 2028 and then goes to annual one-year renewals thereafter.

Um without um without any action of the parties.

Uh the thing I'm concerned about is making sure that the original contract had something to deal with that still allows us to do the term of count um be okay with the state's term of counsel rule since each term of count each new council has to look through and either agree to or disagree to each of the uh contracts.

Um would you all mind taking a look at that to see to make sure everything's in compliance before we have a before we meet again?

Yes.

I'll ask Mr.

Haney to work on that with me.

I just have a question for uh the attorney.

So I've made the disclosure that I work for Rog to the extent that you know somebody reaches out to me.

I believe in the past I've been allowed to vote.

Is that still the case?

Your disclosure lets you vote.

Okay.

Do you need um to move this forward?

Yes, please.

Motion to move this forward to probably W.

To what?

Do you think you can get this done by the AWS dog?

The term council rule.

To the agenda work session.

Okay.

Second.

All in favor?

Good.

Thank you.

Thank you, Keith.

Okay, next up is Parks Recreation and Tourism Committee.

Uh first order of businesses to approve the minutes from July 29th 2025.

We have a motion approved.

That was been uh moved and properly second.

All in favor?

Motion passes 3-0.

Um Rich.

How are you, sir?

I'm well, thank you.

I hope you are, and everyone else.

Yes.

Next stuff is going to be our 2009 Parks Bond report.

Thank you very much.

Um as usual, we've drawn some interest.

Uh we still have a little bit of money in the bank, so we received a little over $1,318 last month to add to our balance.

You'll notice that I've uh indicated that our balance right now of money that we would be able to appropriate moving forward is in the 80,000 range, which is a reduction from last month.

As I've indicated as we went along, we may have had some additional expenses at Wildwood Park.

Uh we're getting that reconciled now as the restrooms gone in, and we still have a little bit of sod to buy and some signs to go up.

So we'll be bringing back an amendment for you to amend that budget.

It'll reduce that money down.

Um point out with that money as we've whittled down the available cash we have.

Um we're funded a lot of these projects, some by SPLOSS like West Dixie or ARPA money, and then by the federal grant program that we're in.

And so what we'll be doing is uh using uh funds that we have to draw down, we can do drawdown payments on the West Dixie project as we move along.

So we'll be submitting those as frequently as we can so we can get in reimbursed as frequently as we can so that we don't go cash negative.

So this 80,000 really wouldn't be available until after we had completed all our projects and got all of our grant money in.

So it's not something that we can tap into right now.

We really need to keep that cash on the books in order to pay our contractors and bills as we go along.

Got it.

Um as far as Wildwood Park, we did get our CEO on the restroom uh I think last Friday.

Uh the guys were prepping for sod to go around that and everything.

So we're we're pretty much ready for a ceremony if you want to hold the ceremony and do an official recognition of the reopening uh the renovations.

Um other than that, that project is pretty much complete.

Okay.

Any questions?

Nope.

All right.

So next up is uh the West Dixie Park renovation update.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, I created a separate agenda item for this uh from the Parks Bond report just since it's an ongoing project and a little more complicated, and uh we've run into a couple of complications uh in the last couple of weeks.

If you've uh read the memo, you can see that as we were doing work out there and demolition work and started pulling out swing sets and started pulling out trees and tree stumps.

Groundwater came to the surface.

Um very shallow, uh which was I guess you could say not unexpected, but on the other hand, we put the swing sets in since I've worked here.

We've done other work out there and never encountered it.

So I don't know if you know all the years of drought we had and we put it in during then and we just had groundwater recharge over those period of time.

Uh we did do some anticipation of this and have unit pricing in our contract with the contractor to import soils or things that we might have encountered if we hit bad soil.

So um I can't say that we were unprepared.

It just was a little bit of surprise how shallow it was.

Uh so we're actively uh looking at it right now with our engineers and geotechnical folks to determine the best course to move forward with construction, whether if that means we have to actually import soil onto the site and raise the level, um, whether we use uh product called soil cement, which hardens the surface, um, whether we regrade and take the walking track, for instance, and elevate it some with some rock underneath so that we can get our concrete poured.

So we're looking at all that right now.

Uh we will be revising our uh storm water and putting in a actual structure that will handle that instead of a I don't want to call it a pond, but you you know what I'm talking about, something that'll hold it attention area.

And then um also we're gonna do a little bit of a redesign on this site uh because of the uh level and bringing in the heavy equipment.

We're gonna readjust the restroom and the playground structure so that we can get the restroom uh closer to the street, as it was if you were looking from West Dixie, you would have seen the pavilion with the playground here and the restroom on the other side.

Well, that has to be brought in with a crane, much like the one at Wildwood Park.

So what we're gonna do is flip-flop the playground and the uh restroom building and move that over where we can put that crane in from uh the crane can reach over from the street to actually bring the restroom onto the site.

That's about a 30,000 pound structure.

Wow.

Okay.

Yes.

Oh, I'm sorry, Tommy.

How close does that put the restroom to the playground?

Well, it already was quite close to the playground.

I don't think it'll be any closer than it was.

It'll be still in you know relative close proximity.

The playground is going to be fenced off, so you'll have separation from the playground to the restroom structure.

Well, actually, you know what, I'll take that back.

One of the cost savings we'll use is to maybe not put the fence around the playground because we already have a fence on the entire frontage of the park on the street.

So we don't worry about kids running out in the street because we're already fenced in.

Uh I get your point though, maybe with the separation of playground restrooms.

So I would ask if we could just take a look at putting the fence around the play area.

One of the concerns that parents had when they came to the meeting was what if somebody grabs one of the kids?

Okay.

And now we're moving the bathrooms closer to the street.

And again, not try to set up a bad situation, but I want something that kind of protects the kids from walking off with someone, being taken off with someone into one of those bathrooms because where they are.

They're nearer to the street now.

Okay.

Oh, we can keep that in mind, because that was in the original design.

So thank you.

All right.

And then um one of the things that we brought up at the last meeting, and you all wanted to hear it back from us was relative to a basketball court.

Uh given the impact that we have right now, and with the grade and the elevation, the additional concrete on there, I don't really think we have a suitable place to place that right now.

Uh so I would say that we would be forgoing the basketball court on that location.

Uh it would have been a small one.

It wouldn't have been even as big as Henry Park to start with.

And then you run into who you built putting a basket for.

Ten feet for old kids, seven, eight feet for young kids, you know, who you're gonna try to serve.

So um and I think but more so than just the construction constraints that we're getting right now.

Uh we should move forward without it.

Any questions?

Okay.

Any uh other questions about West Dixie where we have plans getting ready to submit in to for revised uh approval and uh slowing us down a little bit, but all the demolition has been done on the site um except the existing parking area, which we're keeping for staging for their vehicles when they come in there.

So that'll be the last thing to pull out.

And then in the winter, um our crews will be attacking some more of the kudzu area up on the lots and the the two lots that we purchased.

It's been cleared some, but we we still need to do some additional work there.

Other than that, the demo's done.

Will the goats come back?

I'm sorry.

Will the goats come back?

Uh, don't know that we'll be using the goats because we'll go into a dormant stage by the time that we get to it, and they're they're not gonna bother with the dead material.

The goats are very effective.

They did contribute a little bit to the overrun of Wildwood.

We spent a little bit more money there on those and uh vegetative control with uh true green.

We also ran into some additional dead trees over there beyond what we ex anticipated.

So that kind of contributed to that 20-some thousand dollar overrun.

Uh and we put in six thousand dollars worth of cameras over there that we didn't originally have in the budget.

So that's that's where that came from.

Any other questions?

No, but I do have a comment before the next item before he starts.

But uh I just want to tell you I had the pleasure of playing in a garden club golf tournament yesterday at the city club, and the course is you know top notch.

It's it's you know the best it's been in years, and those golf carts are like the cat's meow, man.

Something out of the future.

I mean, it's really nice.

Yeah, they are and we could have spent a lot more if we'd have gone to club car.

I just want to make that comment.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, they've been doing a great job out there.

So hopefully you didn't hit one over into the fence on 14 there.

We still have that sinkhole that popped up after the other one fixed.

But we're holding off until uh December to do that work just since you brought it up.

Uh we have so much tournament play and some other stuff going on right now, and even though it might only be a week of disruption to create a temporary green and go through that when we've got folks that have been you know paying good money for those tournaments.

Uh we think it's safe enough we can hold on till December, and that's when we have lesser play with the cold weather and everything else.

So that'll be the time that we tackle that project.

All right.

So I guess next up, uh since Johnny brought it up, uh City Club uh Marietta fees.

Yes, sir.

Um, the councilman mentioned the new carts and how nice they are.

Um our former lease uh expired and we had to get new carts, and while we anticip paid it some increase, uh we certainly didn't anticipate 85 percent increase.

Our monthly payments on the golf carts went for 82 carts from about 5300, 5400 a month to over 10,000.

Wow.

Um we do have some budget revenue numbers we're trying to hit to fund other capital in the future years of the golf course, also to transfer some money over to the general fund out of there.

So in order to meet that target, I'm recommending a dollar seventy-five cent increase across the board for anyone who rides carts.

So people that pay uh walking fees, if you're a nine-hole walker, if you're a student that walks, you're not affected, you're not using a cart.

Uh but that's based on you know a good average number of folks that we have, and if we had bad weather a couple months less, we'd still meet that target.

Um I did give you two different charts, and I must admit that uh this one that are has the area rate comparison on there is a little bit messed up when you look at the variance.

The rates on there are all actual as to what we proposed.

I uh just realized when I was sitting up there that the formula that would change those variances wasn't turned on, and so you know we might be a couple dollars, a dollar seventy-five closer or a little more than what we were on somebody else.

But you can see the 5775, for instance, the top left would be the proposed rate and how that transfers across.

So where before uh we were a dollar more than dogwood, now we'd be two and a quarter because we'd be adding uh a 75 a buck seventy-five to that.

Um sorry.

But we're fairly in line with uh the other golf courses that we have.

Yes, yeah.

I think if you look at that rate comparison sheet and you just go on the top line and you go across there, you know, cobblestone, of course, is here in the county.

It's the only other public course in the county.

Dogwood's semi-private.

They do allow some public play on there.

A similar type golf course to what we are in terms of yardage, um, but has less uh ability for public play because they are semi-private.

West Pines just out west where Douglasville, very popular.

Um government-owned property.

And then of course, as we get onto the others, we're getting more into uh private, uh other than Bobby Jones, Chastain Park, which are owned by Atlanta.

But we're we're very favorable and a lot cheaper than some of them.

And uh they each have their own markets.

Um, some of them are a lot longer than we are, might get a little high lower handicapped players that like to get back on the 6500 or 6800 or 7,000 ERTs, which we don't have, and they've got more property to maintain, and that'll keep their prices and their rates up a little bit higher.

Yeah, and I would propose I didn't put the date in, but this would become effective September 29th.

So that would be part of the motion if we were to um adopt this that we do the dollar 75 increase across the board for all riding rates, effective September 29th.

As Rich said, we do transfer a profit from this operation over to the general fund to support all of our other departments.

Uh so what we try to do is get four about four hundred thousand dollars uh from the golf course fund each year and plug that back in to public safety and everybody else.

Do we have any questions?

I'll I'll make a motion to move this forward with the dollar seventy-five fee increase across the board uh effective September 29th.

Across the boards for the golf carts, correct?

For uh golf cart users, yeah.

That would exclude walking rates.

Uh it's been moved and property second.

Um second uh all in favor?

Uh motion passes 3-0 for that increase.

Yeah.

Yes.

Good.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Rich, thank you for doing that.

Oh, you're welcome.

Thank you.

Sorry, it took so long.

We'll adjourn parks rec and tourism.

I call to order the judicial legislative committee.

Um first item are the meeting minutes of July 29th.

Um quick point on that one.

I think uh item 2025 didn't have the effective date of that particular one written into it.

Wait, what?

There was a in the motion, I think there was a for the ethics code new section that was supposed to be effective January 1.

It didn't mention that in the minutes.

Okay.

So I I saw it earlier and submitted in Stephanie, but no, it was close to the meeting.

Okay.

Does everybody get what he's saying?

Okay.

Do I have a motion to amend to add the date?

No move.

Second.

What now?

Oh.

Oh.

See, I just heard it so moved that I was happy.

Andy.

He make the motion.

He's making the motion.

I'll second his motion.

All right.

We have the amended motion to add effective January 1st on the 20250626.

Meeting from the meeting minutes of July 29th.

Do we have any questions, conversations?

This is the amendment.

Hearing none, all in favor of the amendment?

All right.

Now the original motion.

Did Griff make that original motion?

There was no original motion.

Okay.

Do I have a motion to approve the minutes as amended?

So moved.

Second.

Okay.

Real people on the committee.

All right.

I've got a motion and a second.

Without GRIF voting, all in favor, please signify.

All right.

And that passes 3-0.

Thank you.

All right.

Next item of business is the vehicle immobilization ordinance.

And this is just going to us on a second reading.

Has there been any change update?

Who's acting responsibly for this?

Oh.

Our court administrator.

We need you sneak in.

Good evening.

As far as I know, there have been no changes, no updates, no questions asked of that.

So we're moving forward as it was presented.

Thank you.

And this doesn't need anything except for just stays on and moves forward.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

So the next thing is an MOU for the stop arm program.

Good evening, Madam Chair.

Hello.

Committee members.

This is just a continuation of the contract that you have with the school system for the stop arm program.

So at the end of this year, you will come to the end of the in the initial term of the four years.

Now it's just the four one-year continuations as long as either body doesn't give a 60-day notice to opt out.

And the school we reached out to the school system and they are good with the agreement.

So I don't know what the council's intentions are, but the school system is interested in continuing.

Exactly.

And uh this one's different from the other stuff, the term of council because it's an intergovernmental agreement, correct?

So do we need a motion to no this we do nothing and then continue into the one year.

Okay.

Are there any issues?

Does anybody have any concern or issue about this agreement?

Hearing none, we're doing nothing.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

So the next item is the second reading of the ethics code section.

And I'm going to make my own motion.

Uh having given this much thought and much discussion.

Um it wasn't going to go into effect until January 1.

So I'm going to ask that this be tabled.

We do nothing else and we let it go to the new council.

Because it's not going to affect any of us.

I say we just let it go to new council.

Can I can I ask?

Sure.

You know, I have a little I didn't totally understand it last go around.

I'm gonna take mayor's quote that uh gives me some better perspective when it like you can't turn on and turn off the law.

It's like have we ever had a problem?

I mean, it's like I mean, I I see that somebody could make a fake but but it it could go vice versa.

What if we had a bad apple on here?

You know, which we've had some bad apples before, you know.

So that's my thought.

You know, it's like so.

I'm I don't have a dog in this fight because I'm not running for re-election.

Yeah.

And if we had a bad apple, that person would still would not be able to get out of an ethics violation because it would basically stay this till November 4th, but then you can put it in a violation up to six months back.

So we qualified last week, so six months from last week.

In that period.

But again, this isn't something that we even said was going to affect us because it wouldn't become effective until 1 January.

So I think this just needs to move forward to the new council, whatever that looks like to discuss, and not I mean, last time we went through what, three votes, and we had to have a we had a veto and then override of the veto.

We obviously don't agree.

And I'm okay with that, but we don't agree, and I don't think that this is something that has to be done today, because it wasn't gonna take effect until 1 January, and then it was only for an election period, which really meant four years from now when the next election period comes.

So again, this isn't something where we have this much disagreement and not bad disagreement, but we don't agree.

I don't think this is something that we have to force on ourselves or the next council.

I think we have time.

So I I move to table.

Second.

Anyone else want to weigh in concern, comment?

I think it's a good money.

All right, we got a motion to table and a second.

All in favor.

All right.

It is off of the table.

Um showing no more before, Jake.

We still have to take it forward to do the and because it's already on the agenda.

It's not.

It has to be.

So we can take it off.

Yes, sir.

We're done.

It's over.

The first reading is now at this point.

If it comes back, it is no longer it would be a first reading again at this point.

You have to have two readings successfully passed.

The first one passed.

If this was tabled, you would start all over with the new council.

No, I like the motion.

I don't think a committee can reverse in this the city council vote.

With that vote, it automatically put it on the agenda.

I'm uh you could make it you could make it a recommendation to table to full council too.

In which case we just vote on it in September if that's a concern.

Not personally take this.

I'm okay with that motion.

Same result and so I make a recommendation to table that goes to the full council on Wednesday, September 10th.

Second.

All in favor?

All right.

So we're gonna recommend tabling.

No objection to consent.

No objections.

No objection to consent.

So now it's gonna be on consent.

All right, with nothing further coming before the jail, we stand adjourned.

At this point, I'm gonna call to call to order the economic community development committee.

First on a business is the meeting minutes from May 27th, 2025.

Is there a motion or is there any discussion?

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Okay.

There's been uh there's been a motion and second.

Any further discussion or amendment or any amendments?

Hearing none question is called.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

The motion passes 3-0.

The only item of business is the planning year 2024 CDPG consolidated annual performance evaluation report.

Good evening.

This is our yearly annual report.

It does not require a vote, so this is just a presentation.

Um we're currently in public comment period until Monday, and there'll be a public review meeting this Thursday at 11.

So just a little funding overview.

Our grant award last year was a little over 417,000.

We had about 59,000 rollover.

Most of that was money that was allocated to West Dixie Park.

So we had a total of around 476,000 available, and we spent 310 of that in CDBG funds.

If you'll remember, we had about 235,000 in ARPA funds as well.

So we spent a little bit over 550,000 last year.

Um we allocate our normal 15% budget to public services.

These are the six six public services that received funds.

CFR served 21 individuals, which helped six households per prevent eviction.

Um PAL did their after-school and served 35 City of Marietta low-income youth through that.

SafePath served 72 children and parents.

Uh Surfamilias served 13 individuals through their domestic violence program.

The extension served 37 women through their women's residential substance abuse program, and Yells served 148 youth and parents with their after school.

And so these are all city of Marietta residents and all low to moderate income.

Um our other program is our housing rehabilitation.

Uh we spent about 400,000 in that between our CDBG and ARPA funds, and we served 14 households.

That is more than usual, and that's thanks to the ARPA funds.

We had two households that were in progress but not finished as of June.

So we distributed about $85,000 in C D BG grants, and then we spent the full $235,000 in ARPA funds.

The average income of our household served was right at $31,000, which honestly is higher than normal, and all the households were 62 and older.

And in that we had one major code enforcement case that we were able to divert.

We had two houses that we had to do lead-based paint remediation on, and then we did five emergency projects.

So these were done typically in less than a week.

There's somebody who has a major sewer plumbing leak or something that needs immediate attention.

And then we just have some pictures.

Since I've been here, and we were only able to do this because of the ARPA funds.

Any questions?

Yes.

For uh the pro for process.

This was the presentation to us.

Will there be any action needed by council post uh uh comment period?

No, sir.

This is just a presentation.

Our CAPER doesn't require a official council vote for adoption.

We'll after the public comments over, if there's any comments, we incorporate them, but then we just submit to HUD.

Okay, and if they if someone did want to make comments, how would they be how would they do that?

What opportunities are there?

Sure.

There's a public review meeting on Thursday at the Wall Star in the clinic building, and then any comment can be submitted to me by email before the end of business on Monday.

Got it.

And just for the record for people listening, your email in this case would be Kay Thompson at Marietta GA Doug.

Okay.

Thank you.

Just want to make sure everything was good.

Everything was all good on that end.

Thank you.

I have a question.

Yes.

The houses that we were building with the ARPA funds.

Did that go through CD C Habitat Homes?

Yeah, that habit.

It did.

It went through my office.

And so we did obviously the sixth and then the seventh.

Should be finished this year.

I don't know if you're familiar with the all good road property that it will be on right behind the park, but had a very large failing retaining wall that's actually on the neighbors property.

And so they knew about it beforehand, but it ended up being a bigger issue than it is going to cost more money to fix that and then to build the house, but it will be done.

And so they have worked with some contractors to get a discount, but it it took a while.

So the goal is to start in October, and then that should be done by the end of the year.

Has the homeowner been identified?

She has.

She is a um police officer.

She's not a police officer, but she's a I think a records clerk in the police department.

Of course, at our front desk.

Awesome.

Yeah, her and her family are Marietta Natives.

Her and her mom were born in Kennestone.

Her whole family lives here.

Um we have any more land that we could do that anymore.

There are a few lots.

The only lots that I know of are off of fair ground, and there's some they are currently zoned commercial, but I can always bring them back for a discussion.

The big the biggest issue is usually going to be for where the fun um where the funding comes from, because now ARPA and CDBG are both federal funds that allowed us to do it.

I believe.

Correct, Bill?

That's correct.

Um we do have an arrangement with habitat so that if we are able to give them properties, they do look for funding.

Yes, they would be willing to pay.

Yeah.

Um good to know on that end.

Thank you.

No, thank you.

Thank you for what you do.

Is there any other comments on the uh on the on the report?

No.

As this is as this was a presentation only item, there is no motion.

Any further business to come before economic community development?

Hearing none, meetings adjourned.

I'd like to call the public works committee to order the first item is the minutes of July 29th.

Make a motion to approve.

Second.

Uh first item is this 2016 squash.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

The um only update I have on that is I think I stated at the Wednesday meeting a couple weeks ago.

We have awarded the contract for the Rottenwood Creek Trail.

We're waiting a start date from the contractor.

As soon as he gets mobilized, we will have a groundbreaking uh from Aaron Council out there as soon as we get a start date and get him mobilized.

So that's all I have on the 2016, unless anyone has any questions.

Any question?

Next item is uh 2022 splash.

Um a few updates.

As I mentioned a few minutes ago uh about the revenues we've had coming in.

So we're well over our total collection for the entire 2022 SPLOSS at this point with 57.7 million that has been collected so far.

Um we have uh cash in the bank or unencumbered balance of some 28 million sitting in the bank right now.

So we've spent about 29 million out of that so far on maintenance and getting projects ready to go and and working through some of that process.

So we still have a lot of money sitting there to kick off some of these projects as we move forward.

Um first project I'll update on is the White Avenue sidewalk, which runs from Cobb Parkway over to South Marida Parkway.

Um we got the reservicing done right now, and we're waiting on the contractor to come in and put the concrete down, which will build the new sidewalks themselves.

Um we work within basically within our existing right-of-way and some easements that we had acquired through right-of-way acquisition.

But you'll you'll see uh through the lane narrowing and some other work that we had done there.

That work will be done here uh shortly.

Well, again, we're just be after Labor Day, but uh waiting on the concrete to come in and or the contractor come in and do the concrete work itself.

What side of the streets the sidewalk on?

If you're moving from Cobb Parkway to South Mary to Parkway be on the right hand side.

Okay.

Okay, so and the picture on the left hand side.

Because it's facing back towards Cobb Parkway.

Yeah, it's going back the other way.

Yeah, because we couldn't put it on the other side and retaining.

Yeah.

And it's on that side.

Okay.

And with uh with that, they'll connect over to uh phrase gen over there so that I know the student house the student the student purpose housing can walk straight over to KSU at that point.

Yes, we're actually jumping across Call Parkway and finishing that little tie-in because when they built the student housing, they built that in front of the student housing project.

So it was part of this project.

We're going to catch that gap and bring that on down as well.

So that'll be completely tied in from the student housing all the way over to that entrance on uh South Marita Parkway to KSU.

Thank you.

So uh Mark, where how do we stand on the um ace hardware?

What we're doing over there.

We're finishing up well, we've been waiting on Mayor to Power to finish up some of their electrical work in the area as well, but we're just waiting on landscaping to get in.

Landscape.

It's with the with the summer weather and things, it's a little tricky for timing, but we're just waiting on that to finish up.

Any other question?

Next item is the uh three street speech.

Did you have more in 22?

I I had a couple more.

Um Mountain View Ridge.

Uh that project is done.

We've got some striping uh finish up on that project, but the road itself is widened and complete.

Um we got that done again before school got completed, so we're done.

Um the final one I'll mention Waverly and Atlanta intersection, uh right over here off the square, the new signal that'll be going in.

Um I think I mentioned before we've got our signal poles on our yard.

That project bids will be in this Friday for that project.

As soon as we have a contractor on board and contract sign, we will get that con that project underway.

Um so sometime hopefully within the next two to three weeks, contractor be working on that project and get it started and underway.

So the soon we will see some work out there with an intersection and traffic signal going on.

That's right.

Two questions.

The first being how long does that take and will it interfere with or impact in any way October Fest?

It will not interfere with any project or any activities going on.

Um not interfere with any traffic.

We're anticipating that to take 45 to 60 days uh to work to finish up.

But uh work traffic will be minimally impacted.

They'll work during the off hours not being rush hour in the morning or afternoon.

Uh if they have to do any major work with traffic that will impact traffic, they're gonna do that at night.

So just one comment if I might.

Thank you very much for the East Dixie meeting that we had on last Thursday.

Um really great information.

It was attended by uh Mr.

Cummings and Rich Bus was there, uh Dave Collins was there.

We had a lot of city staff there in support, and I think we got all the questions answered, so thank you.

You're welcome.

Any other questions?

Uh one.

Yes, sir.

On on church street is in extension signal coordination.

Is that gonna help with the traffic on that?

I I don't know.

I've gotten some comments about the speed of the traffic and uh flaw of the traffic, especially during rush hours.

It it will help uh with with something with that timing.

It's gets finished that coordination, and when we get that done.

Yes.

Some of that has to do with our coordination with GDOT and some of the other signals on down.

So it's going a little slower than we'd like.

Anything else from anybody?

Oh, one other no performance report this month.

I'm sorry, no performance report this month.

I was getting ready to mention that.

Uh no, I do not have a departmental performance report this month.

Uh my person that compiles that report has been out with knee replacement surgery.

So um she will she's coming back, so you'll have two reports next month.

One to catch up for this month and then one for your normal report for next month.

Okay.

Maybe anything else?

She she's back.

She she came back this week.

She's just getting caught up.

So yes.

Next item is speech study.

Uh yes, Mr.

Chairman.

Uh first speed study is for Faith Hope and Debonair area, and I had put these together before we we had done a previous speed study on these three streets back in December of 2022.

And when we had looked at these before, um, we did determine there was some volume issues, but speed was not an issue on on any of these streets at the time.

Um we did at the time set the speed limit to 25 miles an hour on all three streets.

We have had a subsequent request for us to come back and look at it again on all three streets to see if there's anything going on now.

So I put them back on together again like I did before.

So we would request that we do a speed study on Faith Street from Lindley to Debonair, Hope Street from Polk Street to Faith Street, and Debonair Drive from Polk Street to the Cul de Sac to determine if if traffic calming devices may be needed on all three streets.

All three of these streets are located in Ward 3A, and all three have posted speed limits of 25 miles an hour.

Johnny, you good?

Very much so I'm going to make a motion.

I'll make a motion to approve then.

All in favor.

Passes.

No objection to consent.

Any other question on none?

Next is Rosewood Creek Drive.

This was requested by the Briarwood Subdivision Homeowners Association for us to uh look look at a pedestrian safety improvement at the intersection of Briar Pond Way and Rosewood Creek Drive.

The intersection there of Rosewood Creek or Briar Pond Way in Rosewood Creek Drive currently has a yield sign at the intersection.

They were requesting us to look at possibly making that a stop sign with additional pedestrian crosswalks at this intersection.

In order for us to do that, we need to do a speed study to determine volume along uh Rosewood Creek Drive.

So we're requesting that we do a speed study along that along that road.

Um does have a post-speed limit of 25 miles an hour.

It is a residential street.

It is located in Ward 6B.

It's just a for the residential.

I mean, it's nothing where it goes through the intersect.

I mean, resident it doesn't go through the I mean it's just a dead end.

It does.

It's just one way in and out of that neighborhood.

So I hear a motion.

I'm good.

Make a motion to approve.

All in favor, it's okay for consent.

No objection.

No objection.

Next item is Cherokee Street widening.

This item is for discussion, unless Mayor Council wants to proceed with any with any one of these concepts, or however you would like to proceed.

So Cherokee Street Widening Improvement Project is a project that was approved in the 2022 SPLOST.

We've been working on this project for some time now, coming up with different concepts that would meet the best flow of traffic on this street.

This project came on our radar after some traffic studies that were presented several years back when uh Wellsar was looking at doing the ER expansion and build there that projected traffic volume to increase along this street from the current 30,000 cars per day up sometime around 2035-2036, year 2025-2036, to increase to around 40,000 cars per day.

So we determined that we needed to get some additional lanes of traffic through there to help accommodate those at that additional volume.

The proposed design will add an additional lane of traffic from Chickape Drive to Van Street, which is almost up to the church street extension.

We have three concepts here that we will go over with you.

Proposed intersection designs here as we go through these.

Yeah, say there.

Shows the intersection there at Cherry Cherokee and Canton Road, where it all comes together there right across from the ER.

We would realign that intersection for better sight distance and pedestrian safety.

And traffic flow through there.

It would also add uh a better turn lane as you approach and turn on to Canton Road.

Um a lot better movement onto there as well.

So it'll just be an intersection realignment, um, which kind of shift everything over a little bit uh toward the hospital area.

Um again, improving everything.

That was the first concept that we looked at, or one of the concepts that came back that we looked at again.

The additional lane of traffic would continue all the way up over to Van Street as we continue to merge.

Uh and I'll get to the reason why we're stopping at Van Street in just a minute.

There's a reason why we're stopping there as we we picked a point to stop, but that that was there's a reason for that.

The next option we considered was a roundabout at the same intersection.

This particular option takes up a lot of property.

Uh real estate from the adjoining property owners, including the iClinic as well as the Piedmont doctors off medical facility there at the corner of Cherokee and Canton.

We're the issue that came up when we discussed this one.

This this roundabout, although good in theory, as you know that I'm a proponent of roundabouts when they will work.

However, they've a lot of questions begin to rise when we begin looking at this particular roundabout.

Um this roundabout without an additional roundabout up at Tower Road, which is your next concept, will not work.

Traffic without the additional roundabout at tower would continue to back up down Cherokee and back up into the roundabout, which defeats the whole purpose of having the roundabout, the first roundabout.

So we went back and looked, okay, what does that look like if we have two roundabouts?

Um it got worse when we were looking at the concepts.

Um that concept there with the one at tower, uh, both of these will work in theory.

Um the price tag goes up considerably when you're looking at doing both of these roundabouts.

We take up a considerable amount of real estate up at tower uh with Wealth Star property primarily by having to install that roundabout.

That roundabout at tower uh would be the largest roundabout if it is installed in the city of Marietta.

I dare say one of the largest, if not the largest, in Cobb County, due to the volume of traffic that would be coming through there.

So that's the reason it takes up so much real estate at that intersection.

Does that would be a double lane?

It would be a double lane, yes, sir.

As well as a pass-through lane for turns and moving moving through there.

It would be a monster of your roundabout through there.

The one down at Cherry and Cherokee would be about half that size.

Um they just say a lot of volume that moved through that top intersection up there.

So we looked at all three proposals.

Um cost-wise, this concept that you have in front of you.

Our consultant, which I believe they have undervalued this particular proposal, has this estimated at uh a little over 13 million dollars just to construct the roundabouts.

Um I think again they're undervalued.

I think that project roundabout-wise is gonna be 16 to 18 million to consult to to construct just those two roundabouts.

To do the one roundabout down at Cherokee and uh Cherry, they have that estimated at about 9 million.

Um again, I think that's probably an 11 to 12 million dollar project, just the roundabout.

You say it wouldn't work anyway.

And it will not work in and of itself, not in my opinion.

Going back to the first option with just the intersection improvement there, uh, just by realigning the intersection on Canton and Cherry by realigning those roads and shifting the intersection up just slightly to make that work a lot better.

That actually brings uh the project doing the intersection improvement along with the lane improvement that we have there, brings that project in at about 7.8 million.

Our project budget right now was set at about four and a half million, so we're we're within striking distance uh of what our original budget was.

Um again, based on we set this numbers originally, inflation where we're at now, so we're within striking distance at this point with that particular design.

So those are the concepts.

Again, this is for discussion only at this point, unless mayor and council decide they want to move forward with one of these concepts, or we can bring this back for further discussion at some other some other time.

So I'll be happy to answer questions.

I'll have two questions right now.

First, is there a preference on the staff side?

Is based on basing your description, seems like option two doesn't seem to work regardless, even even uh even with the thing.

So it's kind of between those two.

Is there a preference between those two?

You know, I don't normally give council a preference one way or the other, but if I'm asked, option one makes the better sense to do uh this way, not only budget-wise, traffic flow-wise, least impactful to properties uh at this time.

So that seemed like that's a better option to move forward with on this project.

And yeah, that's our only choice.

I agree, I agree with you on that.

The other question is going to be even with the increased cost on cost of this from the 4.5 to the 7.5 to 8.

Um we should still be good for the other projects in SPOS to still get those done under tier one.

Yes, sir.

And and we have not uh went after any type of grant money or anything, so they there's a possibility we could get some additional grant money for this uh project, being that it is so impactful for the hospital area.

So there's a possibility that might contribute.

SPLOSS might not even see a that significant of an impact, but until I presented this to council and see how you wanted to proceed, we've not moved forward with any type of further funding opportunities.

So uh Mark, so what what's the timeline if we were to vote on it for completion?

If council wind council gives me the go-ahead, then we will start pursuing right-of-way acquisition, because I I can't proceed with that until I know which way I need to go.

Um once we get right-of-way acquisition, we would have this potentially could have this up and start it in the next 24 to 36 months time frame.

That would be our goal.

This was high on the priority list that Marin Council gave, so we want to get this going just as quickly as we can.

Yes, sir.

So what percentage of impact would you say that this option will have on the traffic flow?

Versus the roundabout option.

The the traffic flow going on Cherokee Street uh with the improved site distance and turning radius is coming off Canton and Cherry, uh, it will be impactful.

Uh it will improve that traffic flow.

It's very difficult to make those turns coming off of Canton and Cherry right now.

So it will improve that as well.

Um the biggest impact, of course, will be the additional line of traffic as you move through there.

Um the other part of this whole package will be up at tower.

We're going to improve that triangle and those turn lanes up there as well.

I didn't I didn't talk too much about that, but uh we're going to improve that up there as well.

So you'll you'll see traffic flow improve in general in this whole corridor by everything that we're doing.

Uh the roundabout issue is just if we do one, we've got to do the other, or else we will have traffic backing up into one, and then that just defeats the whole purpose.

And then if you do both, it becomes to me, it becomes cost prohibitive at that point.

What impact will would it have on the speed of the vehicles?

Because I get complaints about the speed coming up Cherokee Street or that's impact positive or negative because we got an additional lane.

Um not the disallow down.

Yeah, that you know the the speed limit on that road is 35.

So um that's gonna come back.

I hate to put chief on the spot, but it's gonna put more of an enforcement issue uh at that point.

Uh for what we're doing, uh, will the lanes be narrowed a little bit, yes, uh, which will help some, but um what we're doing is not going to be considered traffic calming, so it's not going to be that effective for slowing a lot of people down.

That's going to become more of an enforcement issue.

Okay.

One final time.

And the turn from Cherokee on to church, that little loop thing is still that's still being retained.

It looks correct.

That lane will be obtained, yes, but we're going to rework that triangle uh to make to improve site distance.

Got it, so I can see a little better.

Looks like it's shortened up and doing the turn lane a little bit more over so you can get more people seeing.

That's correct.

Okay.

And we're looking at that triangle uh city manager and I have been talking for a long time about improving that triangle more as a gateway as you're coming in there, some sort of gateway feature monument sign, something we're we haven't finalized that yet, but we will before we move to construction, and we'll show you what that looks like.

Um but definitely take it from a concrete piece of concrete on the ground.

It was gonna it's it will be dressed up, uh make it a lot a lot nicer.

Um given the discussion, I'd I'm okay moving forward with uh two intersect the two normal intersection concept and giving them the go ahead to start up the land acquisition.

Griff, you good with that?

I know you're the member of the committee.

No, I'm fine with that because I think uh I love roundabouts, you know that.

But this one doesn't seem to make sense.

And as I said, I'm uh you know me, I'm I'm a proponent for roundabouts, but in this particular case, they will not work.

I'm I'm a proponent for roundabouts, but in this particular case, they will not work.

Yeah, if you don't work, let's go with the first one to start working on it.

Right.

So while we're working on Cherokee.

Well no, Cherokee is a good street, been a long time, but south of those steps.

Uh way.

At least down to prayers, is there any way we could curb and gutter the other side?

Yeah, we'll we'll we'll get that on our list, sure.

Yeah, for that.

Yeah.

It's a blight, and that's a probably the only street in town that just has a depth.

Yeah, we'll we'll we'll definitely get that on our list, Mayor, for sure.

Are those steps on city property?

Those steps never seen anybody on them, and I've lived here a long time.

Yes, those steps are on city property.

Uh and the reason I know that we had to go do some repairs on the handrail a couple of three years ago.

So yes, they are on city property.

If you could look at curve and gutter where you can, I think it'd be nice on the west side.

Yes, sir.

For a good street.

Um for the Cherokee Street widening improvement project.

This is listed as alternative one, correct?

That's correct.

Or concept one, however, you want to refer to it.

Um I'll make a motion to allow staff to proceed with concept one alternative one, whatever you're calling it, the one with the two intersections.

That's there.

And I don't have an objection to consent.

Okay.

Okay.

Can I ask one question?

You know, new to me.

Any uh new developments on wind wetlock drive and South Woodland, that those two little and and I've been pushing to get that one done.

We've had some slowdown with our consultant getting the plans finalized.

He's about 85 percent right now with the plan.

As soon as he gets that done, it will go out to bid and we'll get it started.

It is one of our next ones.

If not, uh thank you.

Thank you all.

No public safety meeting?

No.

No public safety.

It says not to our following public safety.

Uh Doug, any need for an executive session from your side?

No, sir, not from Lee.

But it says following public safety of it.

Yeah, I'd like to call the special call council meeting work session to order.

Is there a motion to approve the minutes from July the 29th?

Second.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

Motion carries.

If um any no need for executive session?

No, sir.

Yes, sir.

Gift torture in the mouth, meeting adjourned.