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0:00

I'd like to be called committed to order.

0:04

The first item on the agenda are the meeting minutes for October the 28th, 2025.

0:09

Is there a motion?

0:10

Motion I'll second your motion.

0:14

Motion to approve.

0:14

The motion has been made in a second.

0:16

All of you in favor, raise your hand.

0:17

Right hand.

0:19

Whatever hand you can.

0:20

Three.

0:21

Oh, okay.

0:22

The next items on the agenda are the hotel motel tax, auto rental tax, and finance update.

0:29

We'll take those from this.

0:33

Thank you, Chairman.

0:35

Good evening.

0:36

Good evening, everyone.

0:38

So the first item that I have is the hotel motel.

0:42

I am happy to announce that there is a very large uptick in collections this month, as you probably have noticed.

0:51

This is a one-time increase.

0:55

This is a result.

1:14

In this particular instance, it was a marketplace that started reporting later.

1:23

And they were able to determine, reach out to them and determine that they had not submitted collections for uh from 2021 to 2023.

1:36

And so uh we were able to speak with the company and they voluntarily um provided the information as well as the payment, and so that amounts to approximately 174,000 this month.

1:53

That is a one time that will not be you see repeated.

1:58

They have been um paying consistently since that time, but they um did not start and report the time that they were um that they should have, so that was a one-time collections, and we also had another um two payments that were for prior months that totaled 10,000.

2:19

So it's 184,000 that are um outside of the monthly collections.

2:28

So if you normalize those collections for the month, it equals around 264,000, 65,000, which is the lowest that we've seen in the last four years.

2:39

So the pattern that we have seen previously is continuing.

2:44

Um we will um continue to make adjustments.

2:49

Um looking at our hotel, I'm sorry, auto rental, which is actually the highest October that we received.

2:57

So they've kind of done a flip-flop there.

3:01

Um, and so the increase in reserve for the conference um center uh increase by 35,000.

3:10

The increase for reserves for auto rental increase year to date by 39,000.

3:15

So the total year to date um over our distributions is 74,000 for the year, and so we'll continue to monitor that.

3:28

Other than that, for our finance update, there were no major changes in our finance department.

3:34

Um we did issue um business license renewals, they will go out.

3:41

Um you should start seeing them in the mail next week.

3:45

Uh we are um finalizing our annual audit, so those um presentations should be or will be scheduled in January for the committee meetings I'm sorry for the um January finance.

4:07

No, that will be the January council meeting.

4:11

I'm sorry, January council meeting.

4:13

We should have those prepared for that, not the committee meetings in January.

4:17

So we should be good to go for that, and those um are the reports that I have for this month.

4:28

I just have a question on the amount to be reserved for the three percent on the second page of the combined.

4:35

Um why is that a negative one second?

4:43

Negative uh 13K.

4:48

Okay, um, because for um we had an extra 31,000 that came out and that came out of um the reserves, and so the 31,000 for the month plus the normal distribution took it negative, so we pulled it into the res out of the reserves, but year to date we're still up.

5:10

Yes, sir.

5:11

Thank you.

5:14

Yes, sir.

5:16

Ms.

5:17

Ram, can I can I ask you if Georgia take they improved their track and program with a good mirror recruit?

5:27

Yes, sir.

5:29

Um we do have a um Georgia Tech commit for a track and feel for the 2026-27 track season.

5:41

Um my daughter did commit um to check.

5:49

I will say we do have a house divided.

5:56

Yes, but I appreciate it.

6:01

Thank you very much.

6:02

All right, thank you.

6:03

Um we need a motion to receive and file.

6:06

Second uh the motion has been made to receive and file.

6:10

All those in favor, raise your hand.

6:12

Okay, anything else to come before the finance committee.

6:17

If not, we are adjourned.

6:23

Um business is the uh previous minute minutes.

6:31

We should approve the minutes of October 28th.

6:33

Second favor, all right.

6:38

Um solidated pension plan investment policy statement.

6:48

Okay, so good evening again.

6:50

Um you should see the um IPS, which is the investment policy statement for our pension plan.

6:59

Um we do have revisions to that, and since it is um part of our code, we um are requesting um the council review um the changes.

7:13

The request incorporates um changes from the Georgia statute, OCGA 47-20-84, which governs the investment authority of large retirement systems.

7:27

Um the law essentially adjusted the allowable um investment range for alternatives, fixed assets as well as the equities on page nine.

7:40

You'll see that range and alternatives increased from 15% to 20 percent.

7:47

We kept the other ranges um the same as um the max was intact, and this provides additional flexibility in our policy mix, and that benefits our overall plan and allows us a little bit more flexibility and how we can align our assets for our investment policy.

8:09

There are a few other changes that are mostly administrative, and those are on pages 17 and 18.

8:17

You'll see those um changes reflect contact information for the pension plan and board position changes for our treasurer as well as the secretary.

8:29

You will also notice the update to the actuary um as there are uh pending custodial banking changes that we will be making that was mandatory.

8:42

Our current um custodial um banker was bought out, and so we are having to change over.

8:51

So those changes are reflected in that as well.

8:55

Any questions?

8:59

Um investment policy statement.

9:05

Hear a motion, so moved.

9:08

Second all in favor.

9:11

Quick question um quick question, yes, sir.

9:15

Since this is an ordinance, this also places it for first reading.

9:18

So if there's going to be if it if it needed to be waived, waived the council, correct?

9:22

Right.

9:24

Right.

9:27

No objection to consent, just heads up for the council meeting.

9:31

Okay.

9:33

No objection anybody?

9:34

Okay.

9:34

No objection.

9:36

Um no further business for personnel.

9:41

We will join my call to order the parks recreation and tourism committee.

9:49

Uh first order of businesses to approve the October 28th 2025 meeting minutes.

10:00

Do I have the second?

10:01

It's been moved and properly second.

10:03

All in favor.

10:05

Passes the okay.

10:08

Uh Rich.

10:09

Yes, sir.

10:10

Wow.

10:13

Final report.

10:14

Yeah.

10:15

Good to see you.

10:17

I'm reporting over here, huh?

10:18

Yes.

10:19

Wow.

10:20

Okay.

10:20

You look like tired.

10:22

Pardon?

10:23

You look like you're retired.

10:26

Thank you.

10:26

Uh thank you so much for Friday.

10:29

That's great.

10:31

It was great.

10:33

Good to see your family.

10:34

That was neat.

10:35

Pardon?

10:36

Good to see your family.

10:37

That was pretty neat.

10:40

I was gonna come up here and I cry.

10:43

Didn't bring Kleenexes.

10:44

Ah, you left the box in your car.

10:47

Um, yeah.

10:48

We got plenty.

10:50

Yeah, thank you.

10:51

Um I appreciate it.

10:54

Let's see.

10:55

Um, since we met last month, we did get 545 dollars in interest.

11:00

That will continue to decline as uh we continue to spend our available cash as we pay our bills for the West Dixie Park.

11:06

So that's gonna start to dwindle down.

11:08

Um we have 75,629 uh in uncommitted balance at this point.

11:14

We're hoping we're not gonna be able or have to tap that at all for the Larry Sminski Park project.

11:20

May need a little.

11:21

Um, if not, uh there are some future projects coming up.

11:24

Uh we do have a pipe that we need to replace out at Burrus Park.

11:28

Uh could run as much as a quarter million.

11:30

So we have 50,000 in the bond right now for that.

11:33

We have another appropriation in the general fund, so some of this money could go there, and you may need to tap into SPLOSS funds even in order to complete that project.

11:41

But if we don't get it, we're gonna lose access to the back of the park, uh the bridge and connectivity of the trail.

11:47

So uh Mr.

11:48

Deckman's working on that, and you should see that in a few months coming forward to you.

11:52

Other than that, which park uh Burrus Park?

11:56

Yeah, yeah.

11:57

Yeah, it's the only park we haven't touched yet of all the parks that we've done, and we had a small amount there, but uh that uh pipe project is uh an important one for us to get access, keep our vehicles getting back there, maintain the bridge and all the other things that we have there.

12:11

Other than that, you know, we're holding uh about 180,000 for Atherton Square yet.

12:16

The design studio is still working on that one, coming up with some plans and kind of enhance that, make it more of a place-making area.

12:23

And other than that, there's just a few thousand dollars, you know, in the Glover Park, the Kirby Park, uh, those ones with the asterisk on the thing.

12:31

So everything's committed for um Larry Seminski, and then just that little bit of money.

12:38

So we're you know, we're pretty well down there on the cash on the parks months, just about done.

12:44

So since last month, you know, we were held up with the water quality structure that it's slow construction over at West Dixie.

12:50

That came in, that was put in place, so they've been hard at work out there uh getting most of all the final grading completed.

12:57

Uh they actually were pouring more concrete yesterday for the loop trail.

13:01

Uh they should be about 80% complete with all of the flat work, all of the concrete work uh by the end of next week.

13:08

Um what won't be finished will be left intentionally unfinished as we have to get the restroom in and the playground equipment in, so we need to leave access uh for that heavy equipment and not drive over the new concrete.

13:22

Then once those are in, they'll finish that up and the rest of the curb along West Dixie.

13:27

Um currently they're working on undergrounding the electricity for the lighting that'll go in through the park and around the trail.

13:34

Uh irrigation work will come right after that.

13:37

Uh hopefully that will all be finished, and then on December 12th, we should be able to be out there with the tree keepers uh planting trees.

13:45

So it'll start to take another different look when we get that done.

13:49

Uh, right now the playground is scheduled for the week of December 15th.

13:54

Um the uh pavilion will follow in the restroom.

14:00

Right now, if everybody stays on track with deliveries that they've told us we should be complete with the entire project by the end of January.

14:07

Okay, that's good news.

14:11

That is it.

14:13

Can I just say that I saw the um the video that Rachel did of the park?

14:19

It's looking great.

14:21

It's really looking good.

14:22

Thank you.

14:23

Yeah, no, it's looking terrific.

14:24

And with all the cudzu cleared on the bank and all the undergrowth and even where our property separated from the houses on the sort of the west side, uh, that one single house there just looks like a much bigger park, and when we get the grass in, it'll probably even look even bigger yet.

14:40

So and the playground pavilion will be a great enhancement.

14:44

So any other questions?

14:46

Yes, I would just want to say thank you again for everything you've done.

14:52

Absolutely.

14:54

Um again, I'm sorry I missed the event back on Friday.

15:04

I was understandable.

15:05

Yeah.

15:07

Yeah, national for Nash League Cities there.

15:10

Um those will be the last chance.

15:12

I want to say thank you very much.

15:15

I've enjoyed working with you when you're back on the pension board during your time as director and during my time on council.

15:21

You don't you've it's been good, it's been good to hang around with you at different events.

15:27

And uh I've enjoyed working with you, so thank you very much.

15:31

And thank you for everything that you've done for the city for the entire time you've been here.

15:35

Thank you so much.

15:36

Very good.

15:37

Thank you.

15:38

Thanks, Rich.

15:41

Appreciate you, man.

15:43

Thank you.

15:46

Anything else come before the uh parks and recreation tourism committee?

15:52

If not, we are adjourned.

16:02

There is a revision to those.

16:05

Okay.

16:05

Make a motion to approve with revisions.

16:13

Got a motion and a second to the revised meeting minutes.

16:17

All in favor, please so signify.

16:20

All right, and that's the Rio.

16:22

The next item is the final plat for Hive Vale phase one.

16:27

Thank you, Chair, and good evening.

16:28

Um, so this is as you mentioned, the final plat for Highville phase one.

16:32

Um as you'll recall, Highville is the development located primarily off of Breckenridge Road, but also it does have a home located off of Colston as well.

16:40

And so this is phase one, which includes eight houses which are going to be accessed off of Breckenridge and one and the one which will be accessed off of Colston as well.

16:48

Uh I'll turn your attention to the memo.

16:50

There were two comments outstanding at the time that the memo was um developed.

16:54

Um the second one notes that Cobb County um had not yet approved the street name.

16:59

They have since approved Arborcroft court as the street name.

17:03

And then the first comment uh regards the utility poll, which is currently in the drive.

17:07

Um, we've heard from the developer today um that they are currently working with Marietta Power, and in the next week they will be relocating that poll underground uh to serve the site as well.

17:17

And then the only um other change that I'll mention is that the entity name, which was the one for the preliminary plat, Kennesaw Mountain Development LLC.

17:25

We've been notified that there's a different LLC name that they would like to move forward with uh that includes the name Hyvale.

17:30

And so if you move this forward, it will that name will change along with the item as well.

17:36

But happy to answer any questions that anyone may have.

17:38

Thank you, Chair.

17:40

Questions?

17:42

I don't have any.

17:43

Okay.

17:44

Yes, sir.

17:45

I'm just just confirming the two issues should be resolved by the agenda work session, basically.

17:50

Or by correct, one issue is already resolved and the other one will be resolved.

17:54

Yes, sir.

17:55

Okay.

17:58

That's my question.

17:59

Thank you.

18:00

Okay.

18:01

Do I have a motion?

18:02

Uh I make a motion to move this to the agenda work session.

18:07

Second.

18:08

Got a motion and a second to move this to the agenda work session.

18:12

All in favor.

18:15

Thank you.

18:16

All right.

18:18

Um, the next item is just discussing our legislative priorities.

18:26

Good evening, committee.

18:28

Thank you, Chair.

18:29

Um, this stems out of a request by the mayor at the last agenda work session to look at the legislative priorities.

18:35

I think the mayor and the mayors of all the cities have been invited to a uh meeting on December 11th uh to discuss all of the various cities' legislative priorities.

18:45

We were asked to put together a list of those legislative priorities.

18:49

So the city manager and I have talked to some of the uh department heads, and we pulled together a list, uh and that list is here for you uh to review.

18:58

If there is these are issues and um bills that are still lingering out there, some that may come up.

19:06

Um there have been a lot of summer committee meetings, um, so there are issues that we're probably not even fully aware of yet.

19:13

Uh I went ahead and reached out to um the lobbyist that we communicate with regularly and let him know to let us know if there's anything that he has heard that is more recent uh than the last time I spoke with them.

19:27

So all that should be included, but then anything else that you all would like to add to this list, uh we can do that tonight or take off.

19:35

Uh it's really up to the committee and the council's discretion.

19:39

All right, do I have any comments from board from committee members?

19:44

I have no recognize Councilman Kent.

20:03

Uh so there is not a bill to necessarily restrict at this time.

20:10

It's to unrestrict.

20:12

Oh, to unrestrict.

20:13

Um I don't recall that.

20:16

The only thing I think that is still alive is they were talking about putting together a database and then also requiring that whoever was working with the rental company had to reside in the state of Georgia.

20:30

So those are the two bills that were kind of left.

20:33

And one of those sorry.

20:37

One of those bills passed.

20:39

The one with the yeah, you have to have somebody who lives here.

20:42

Yeah, if you're an out of state landlord, you have to work with the Georgia realtor and have a real someone with that broker a broker's license, basically have uh to manage the property or have property management.

20:52

They'd have a phone number that they were available.

20:55

Uh yeah.

20:55

I thought there was one that was challenging that would challenge our ability to restrict them to five percent what we normally do.

21:06

I I will go review that, but yeah.

21:09

I mean, we already have that in our code, but yeah.

21:12

Um I know that there was one.

21:16

Um was it the eight House Bill 812 is the building?

21:22

Is that building codes one uh one that uh was in the MDJ a few weeks ago?

21:27

Um that could do the expedition um, yeah.

21:34

So that's under the section uh home rule protections in this document.

21:38

So it has shot clocks and all that are installed.

21:42

They have to deliver permits within a certain amount of time.

21:45

And we're we're doing it right now, basically.

21:47

Uh we're within what they're talking about, but I know most governments wouldn't like that regulation because they would not meet it at the current time.

21:55

And GMA is very aware of the bill and they've sent some items out, and I'm sure that they've talked to the city manager.

22:02

Um it was already mentioned at the uh I talked with a few GMA people while I was at NLC, so it's already on the radar as well.

22:12

Um they're all getting ready for session at this point, too.

22:16

Um I think they're trying to worry about that, they're worrying about the revenue replacement as that's going on too.

22:23

That's the big one to this year.

22:24

Because uh if we don't need that affect uh affecting uh if the states choosing what to do, it shouldn't be affecting how we're getting our own revenues, though.

22:32

Right.

22:34

Yeah, exactly.

22:35

I mean that's the position of most of the people at GMA, it seems to be that fine, you can do whatever you want to with the state tax code, just don't put an impact on local government when you do it by taking anything away to make up for that loss of revenue.

22:49

And because there's no bill, I did add that section at the bottom really about revenue focused bills and taxation with some of the points that I know are should be important to the city.

22:59

So the only other thing I might add, I'm not I don't think it'll come up in the General Assembly, but it's more the FCC stuff.

23:08

Just be aware they're still trying to do that uh additional restrictions on right-of-way and costs that we can do regarding uh that what they're trying to do with 5G deployment, small cell deployment.

23:19

Yes, sir.

23:21

Um the uh the rest of the ones on here, I think make sense for us to have to be aware of and keep an eye on.

23:33

Um has the Supreme Court ruled on the uh liability case yet?

23:38

They have not.

23:38

It it probably won't be until late spring summer before that ruling comes out from everything I've read.

23:44

But yeah.

23:46

Got it.

23:47

So just keep an eye on the tort reform, the the municipal tort reform then.

23:52

Correct.

23:52

That's the House Bill 531, right?

23:54

Yep.

23:55

Mr.

23:56

Mayor, I know you asked the list.

23:57

Did you have anything?

23:58

Yeah, maybe if it helped it.

24:00

But there's only so much they can do.

24:02

I mean they won't mess with the Southeastern building code or insulated windows or the there's only so they basically go after cosmetic stuff, wouldn't they?

24:17

Yeah, well, I mean the type of sudden uh so far um that's been beat back, which is been good.

24:24

Um that there definitely the last couple years there were efforts to go in and deal with all the external portions of buildings.

24:31

And right, and make it where you couldn't you couldn't make them do what we're doing, which is a four-sided architecture.

24:36

They could basically do whatever they want uh if that those bills had passed, and uh they didn't, which was good.

24:43

Um so now there's not as much of a push on that we're being told at this point.

24:48

Um so they're focused on the other issues which we just talked about, which is revenue and the races coming up for the state, uh who's running for what.

25:00

Um so they're focused on the other issues which we just talked about, which is revenue and the races coming up for the state, um, who's running for what um and uh as far as housing goes, I don't think the there were some individuals that are talking about keeping cities where they couldn't restrict the uh that do the five percent like we're doing, but it seems to be a lot more pressure the other way, which they're cities and counties screaming about the fact that they've got whole subdivisions that are being built for rental.

25:18

So that that's been a big push back on that whole issue.

25:22

To your point, Mayor, we will definitely keep an eye on 812 because that looks like a vehicle where if they decided to slip some of those things in, they might do that during the session for sure about design standards type thing.

25:34

That looks like the bill that could be expanded or changed, but yes, yeah.

25:39

Mark Rice made sure that I'd already seen the article, but Mark Rice made sure that I was aware of it as well.

25:45

Yeah.

25:46

Yeah, because that's what we require well to underground utilities, could they go after that?

25:53

Yes, sir.

25:54

Sure could.

25:54

Right.

25:55

No, and that's that's one thing I'm worried on the FCC stuff too.

25:58

That just that shifts the burden to us rather than the building.

26:04

Yes.

26:05

It definitely could.

26:08

Um 521.

26:13

Do you think that one has legs or think that one's just kind of there?

26:16

I just put it on the list because it is still sitting at the legislature going into the second year.

26:21

Uh I haven't heard anything about it.

26:24

Umnect South had didn't really talk about it, but it is still sitting there, so I wanted to make sure that it was on this list.

26:32

Uh just keep an eye on that.

26:34

If it starts getting anything, just sure.

26:37

We will yeah.

26:39

In our um updates, we'll make sure it's there.

26:44

Anyone else?

26:46

Thank you very much.

26:48

Okay, and I was just uh if this passes, do you want this list just this way, or how would you like this handed to you, Mr.

26:55

Mayor, for your meeting?

26:58

Yeah, if you just gave me a list.

27:00

Okay.

27:01

Yeah, I'd feel better saying what the whole campus wanted to show.

27:05

Okay.

27:07

And do you guys recommend any changes or just as it is?

27:10

I don't see any thing that I'm that you're searching that we are not already aware of.

27:17

Maybe after we hear what our delegation has to say on the 11th.

27:22

Okay.

27:22

Yeah.

27:22

There may be more things that concern me right now.

27:25

You're pretty much there.

27:26

Okay.

27:26

Yeah.

27:27

All right.

27:27

Right now, yeah, right now I think the biggest sorry.

27:30

Yeah, I um it would be an harm.

27:34

All the cities would have the exact same point of view as we probably wouldn't.

27:38

Probably so.

27:38

Yeah.

27:39

We've got you could take a next or two.

27:42

Yeah, we I know the legislative policy council that I'm on uh does feel that way, definitely, the group.

27:48

Uh, but I just want to let y'all know too, because of that, um, we'll we have a meeting every Monday while the set leg legislature is in session, so we'll be um briefing on all that.

28:00

Uh and I can bring it up to y'all anything that uh starts to hit out there that we're not anticipating.

28:07

Um the last thing I think I remember from GMA is that they're expecting probably the biggest thing to be that uh the last point that you have on there about the revenue focus bills.

28:20

That's probably going to take up most of the error on the general assembly things what they're expecting.

28:25

Yes.

28:26

So it could be good, could be bad.

28:29

Just wait and see.

28:32

You were in the legislature wild feel about the same way.

28:36

Or is that kind of the area you're feeling from the from the General Assembly?

28:45

I'm not sure.

28:46

Understood.

28:52

That seems to be where they think a lot of the errors probably going to be for the session.

28:56

They they think also that it may be a quicker session than some because of the fact that they've got primaries coming up.

29:03

Yeah.

29:03

Um, so they might not want to steck stick around the house and senate too long.

29:08

We have election every two weeks now.

29:10

Yes.

29:12

So true.

29:13

And it could get worse depending on who tries to run for now the now open seat or soon to be open seat, could cause a cascade of other issues.

29:24

This is true.

29:29

All right, thank you.

29:31

Thank you.

29:33

So the next two items.

29:35

Uh the first one being the alcohol code section revision.

29:40

Are there any changes recommended to that?

29:44

Um quick question.

29:46

Quick answer.

29:48

Um we have two different versions of the thing of the or of the ordinance draft for Page Rio.

29:56

Uh it's near the end.

29:57

We have uh in the thing, there were two different versions of the ordinance.

30:02

So it should be should be the first of the two, not the second of the two.

30:06

I think the second of the two is an old version.

30:09

Let me uh ask Patina up to brief on that.

30:15

So this says final draft.

30:18

Yeah, the problem with the final draft is it it's the old language and it gets rid of the fee.

30:23

Yes, granting authority.

30:25

That is correct.

30:29

Right.

30:29

But to the top one of the two.

30:31

Yeah.

30:33

Is the one the smaller printed one is the one that is the final line?

30:38

Final.

30:39

Yes, ma'am.

30:39

Okay.

30:42

Do we have any questions, comments, or concerns?

30:47

All right, hearing none.

30:49

We move to the next one.

30:51

No objection, consent.

30:53

Huh?

30:53

No objection to that being placed on consent on the second reading.

30:57

We consent the second reading.

31:00

All right.

31:01

Consent.

31:03

We're good.

31:04

All right.

31:05

On consent, please.

31:07

Um the next item is the vehicle mobilization service.

31:11

And again, the only thing that changed on that was changing the amount from 50 to 75 dollars.

31:17

Um none of the other issues were included.

31:25

Um Kim, she's not here.

31:37

Can we concern?

31:45

I feel like some of this stuff got snuck in here.

31:48

It did not.

31:51

I think this is the current code.

31:53

The only change is a vehicle mobilization.

31:56

Okay.

31:57

All right.

31:58

The top one is the red line, and the only change in there is the set 5075.

32:02

I don't get checked over the weekend last one.

32:04

Neither of mine are redlined.

32:06

Um it's black lined.

32:08

Uh on the first page on the first page.

32:10

All right, I see it.

32:12

Okay.

32:13

All right.

32:15

So no issues, comments, concerns.

32:18

Again, the only changes shown at 2A, which changes from $50 to $75.

32:27

That is the only change that's being approved.

32:31

Correct.

32:32

All right.

32:33

Um consent.

32:35

Second reading.

32:36

One question.

32:37

Yes, sir.

32:38

There's there's no signage.

32:41

Do we have to change any signage?

32:43

We don't put the amount on the sign, do we?

32:45

I don't think we put the amount on the sign.

32:47

Yeah.

32:48

I just you done a better job too.

32:51

About eight or nine meetings last time.

32:56

I guess if it doesn't happen on the square, it's not as emotional.

33:00

Well, that's true.

33:01

It's still now there is some signage in here, but that's already up there that just says that the property owner allows for booting, but that is the only sign, and then nothing under the new law that got signed in July requires anything of us.

33:15

So all we're doing is going up to 75 dollars.

33:18

Yeah, oh behind Johnny McCrackens.

33:22

I think didn't he change that to a pay lot?

33:24

I think it's a pay lot now.

33:25

Is it oh yeah?

33:27

It's one of those just to sign up before, and they were hauling them off as fast as I think that's the reason why some of the stuff got in the ordinance.

33:35

In there done that.

33:37

Um consent for second reading.

33:40

Yes.

33:40

All right, we're on consent, please.

33:43

All right.

33:44

So let's talk about committee and council meeting dates.

33:50

Okay, we uh we've got a packet in front of you or part of your agenda packet that lists the dates.

33:57

So you got the two pages on the front that list the dates and any conflicts.

34:01

Uh and then you've got right behind that, uh, it shows a more detailed listing of when we have department head meetings and agenda meetings uh to put together the uh individual agendas for each meeting.

34:13

Uh there are two dates that uh conflict uh that are definite conflicts, uh and that is on your second page, which is the September meeting, which would uh be end up being on Labor Day.

34:27

So uh can't do that.

34:30

Um and so we moved it to the Thursday before, like you've done in the past.

34:36

So that would be the Monday meeting that would move to the Thursday before instead uh because we can't meet on Monday, and then uh the Wednesday meeting would take place uh as normal on the 9th.

34:48

And then the uh second one is because of Veterans Day that uh we would actually have the Wednesday council meeting on Veterans Day, so we suggested moving that to the Thursday, but that's totally open to council as far as when you would want to move it.

35:04

But um the way the code reads, it says that uh if there's a conflict with an actual holiday, um, then uh it moves to the next Wednesday or when council sets.

35:16

So if council wants to set it as that Thursday, it's fully within the powers in the code to do that.

35:22

Um staff want to have a five day weekend.

35:28

I mean it's the holidays in the middle of the week.

35:32

Do you have some people that are planning to be off Wednesday, Thursday Brian?

35:39

We don't usually have that.

35:41

Um if it was um that'd be a reasonable that we want to have on Thursday.

35:46

Right.

35:46

Like Memorial Day, Labor Day, one of those people would want it, but it's Veterans Day.

35:52

Yeah, I think uh probably people haven't adjusted their schedules yet to make sure that they take off around Veterans Day.

35:59

Um they just know they're getting that holiday then.

36:02

But um if yeah, I was saying if we had to come in on Friday in order to do it, I might have a different opinion.

36:09

But Thursday, I think taking care of it then is probably okay with everybody.

36:14

Now this I will say we've had on this uh draft, we've got fewer conflicts than I can remember.

36:21

Um there usually a lot of conflicts, but that's really the those are the only two that are major.

36:28

The uh madam chair.

36:32

Uh yes, please.

36:34

Um just one other thing to note since we'll have at least two council members um on pension board.

36:42

There's the GAPPT conference for pension, right?

36:46

That's uh right where committee meetings would be right in the middle.

36:49

And it's very possible if you get two uh two people on that, they're away.

36:54

That means you can't you might not be having a committee meeting.

36:57

So we might need to move the committee meetings that particular time to get away from that conference.

37:02

Yeah, I didn't I don't didn't know who was uh going or not going on that one and don't even know who's gonna be appointed at this point.

37:09

Yeah.

37:10

We don't know that, so I'm just raising it as a general if they're two new people is they'd probably probably benefit to go to the thing as they're getting used to getting it on the conference.

37:19

If it's if uh if I was still on there, I'd probably try and go and whatnot too.

37:24

But even then it's also staff members gone.

37:27

Uh because in Keisha would probably go, Patina might go.

37:31

Um Ronnie, it's just it get it can get quite a few different hit quite a few different uh regular members of our committees or regular staff members at our committees as well.

37:42

So that one we might need to shift which which month March 24th.

37:52

Question is when it would be shifted to.

37:54

Yeah, you would have to shift either to the Friday before.

38:00

Thursday or Friday before.

38:02

That's in Thursday before might be the best one.

38:07

Because if you go after you're on the you're you're getting close to the uh work session, yeah, you're too close to the work session.

38:16

March the 13th.

38:17

We were thinking uh March 20th.

38:19

And 19th.

38:21

19th.

38:23

Okay.

38:32

Um what impact does that have, Bill, on any other yeah, the um well we'll have to move some other things around, but I mean we could do it.

38:43

Um the the problem is on the white sheet um that you pull out for March.

38:50

So just two days after the department head meeting.

38:52

Yeah, the department head meeting I'd have to move.

38:55

Um, but I can do that.

38:56

Okay.

39:04

What we do at the department head meeting is we go through the items that need to be considered for the agenda for the committees.

39:11

And then uh after we make the decision at that meeting which ones are gonna go forward and which ones are not, then the staff members of each department have to go in and then they have to create the items and the backup and all the rest and present those, and then they have to be printed and delivered uh to the uh council, you know, 24 hours before, so there's no way we'd be able to do it with the way that that's set up.

39:33

Um so I I would have to move it to either the Monday or the Friday, probably one of those two.

39:42

But that's not anything that had to be set by council.

39:44

Uh that's a staff issue.

39:51

Um did this go out to the new electeds?

40:00

They get the full packet, so they would have gotten it.

40:02

Have we heard anything back?

40:05

Um I've not.

40:07

I I asked because I know that there's a concern with um two of the elected set are Jason and T now coming on with children, because obviously none of us have that as an issue.

40:22

Um several of these are either on the day of spring break or incorporate a spring break, uh a break, a school break.

40:41

Thank you for saying what I thought but decided not to say.

40:45

Yeah, I can say it.

40:47

Yeah, Johnny's like I can say anything now.

40:49

I got two or more of these to go.

40:51

Um yeah, I mean I don't know what's been done in the past, I don't know how that's been handled in the past.

40:57

I'm sure these are not the only two people who have had kids on council.

41:02

We could have three with children.

41:04

We could have three with children.

41:07

I'll be glad to call them, and you they'll probably see other people too.

41:13

They have a spring break, a winter break, Christmas break, all break.

41:17

Yeah, have a lot of breaks.

41:19

Yeah, because like the April April meeting is the first day of spring break, but that's a Monday, so most people would probably try to get out of here on this Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.

41:30

So April.

41:33

Oh, yeah.

41:34

And councils in the middle of that week.

41:36

That's not changeable.

41:38

And then the next one would be in November, with again the first day of the Thanksgiving break being that Monday, and we are like this time committees on Tuesday, and then the last one being the winter break, which starts on the 22nd, and that's the day of a committee meeting.

41:59

And if any two of the three of them wanted to not be here and take that as their meeting, they could miss, especially on the committee meetings, we would be in trouble.

42:13

Yeah, yeah.

42:14

Then I think we all of them would be decided by then so the agenda work session would be good for them to attend.

42:22

Yeah, yes.

42:24

I'll probably want to make the suggestion make the motion to move it to probably get it to the work session with the never thought of that.

42:32

Sorry.

42:35

Let's make a motion to move this listing to the intend to work session with the one change of March 19th for the committee meetings because of the GAPPT conference so moved.

42:58

I moved it, you just have to second it.

42:59

Second.

43:01

I can't I can't make it any other comments, concerns other than Johnny hearing none all in favor.

43:09

We're at agenda work session with that.

43:11

Thank you.

43:12

See nothing else coming before.

43:15

There's an addendum to this item.

43:18

Can we?

43:21

One that doesn't fall anywhere is the organizational meeting.

43:25

Oh, yeah, I guess we should.

43:29

If I could present it, then ask the committee to consider it or it might just be verbal, but you know, we have to have the organizational meet before the council.

43:43

And just pulling out there Monday at new time and just have a I mean we'll have several new members and just because there'll probably be a lot of questions.

43:57

And it it making it because we only do this once every four years, like the uh rules and procedure and the resolution for I guess travel and seminars.

44:14

If that could be on the agenda to push it forward to the we would present something and then push it forward to the agenda to the first meeting.

44:28

Just to give everybody everybody time a week to re review, and you'll I'll set the old copies out for them.

44:35

You know, it's like how long somebody can speak and just a lot of courtesy things, and and the number pulled out was $4,000, but that may or may not be enough.

44:47

So that no one pushing the number other than just I think right now we're at seven.

44:53

Yeah, council had changed that.

44:55

Um I went back and just researched it right before we walked in here.

45:00

Oh, that was an open okay.

45:01

Yeah, it was it was actually in the system uh as that, but uh that got changed.

45:06

Uh this was um this was on March 9th, 2022.

45:11

The council actually changed it and uh put it at a 56,000 total and 7,000 each individual for that and it might be we want to add a there might be seminars other than I think it includes leadership, GOM, leadership Georgia, that type thing.

45:33

Yeah, I think it's got leadership cob and honorary commanders right now.

45:37

Yeah, just yeah anything that makes us do a better job, you could have to go to the new training.

45:45

Is that included in that the recouncil train?

45:49

The new training is separate from that 7,000 number, it's already built in, knowing that they've got to go to that.

45:56

Because it's a have to by law.

45:59

Yeah, yes, sir.

46:00

Yeah.

46:00

If they've answered that question.

46:04

Don't ask the question.

46:06

I hear that I hear it, don't ask it.

46:08

Is that in January when they go?

46:10

Um February.

46:12

February and March.

46:13

Yeah, it's either going to be another two options.

46:17

Athens and Tifton, right?

46:19

Yeah.

46:21

But would they Monday the sixth at lunch of working lunch?

46:27

And it's the sixth the Monday.

46:28

I picked my favorite restaurant, divorceing.

46:32

Okay, so Monday.

46:33

That's really a hint.

46:34

I I Monday the fifth, it would be the fifth.

46:38

Monday fifth, yeah.

46:39

At noon.

46:41

I mean it.

46:41

11 30 noon.

46:43

I think anybody have an ejection then.

46:47

And then because this is a special call to we approve the attorney.

46:56

Then I present the committees for approval by the council and the pro tem and the B of W.

47:03

Right.

47:04

Yes or no.

47:04

And I think our code says the city manager and the clerk work for us, but it doesn't I think once hired, it's just I don't think we do it every four years or one year.

47:20

Yeah, it's got I think well, I I think because of the contract that the city manager has that it's a contract, right?

47:25

Yes, sir.

47:26

The council has the right to terminate it any time.

47:29

So it still falls into the term of council issue as well.

47:33

Yeah, as of any terms contract.

47:36

Right, yeah.

47:37

And do you you do we appoint the somebody appoints the municipal clerk slash manager?

47:44

Right.

47:45

Um I think that would be us.

47:46

Exactly.

47:47

That's the council that does that, yes, sir.

47:49

And um you're gonna have I need to mention this too.

47:53

I mean, you are gonna have a review of all those individuals that are appointed, not just the council, I mean the um folks in the court, but you're gonna have the BLW manager, myself, Stephanie.

48:05

Um, we'll all have to be in there too.

48:08

So um that usually you know takes place in January at the January committee meetings and gets approved in February, but it is gonna be a little different this year because we'll have some people that will not be here.

48:21

Um we'll have new people that will have had no experience with of individuals.

48:26

So the way I read the judges were two years or until their successor is appointed, and not or and yeah, but but the prosecuting attorney it ends after two years.

48:42

Um it doesn't have the and I mean if we appointed a judge for two years and never say anything about it, they could they would serve four.

48:51

Yeah, they would just keep going.

48:52

And the prosecutor attorney, though, I think we we'd have to do it twice.

49:04

So what I don't know if it means the committee action other than just we'll have the agenda that we have the items that are in the code.

49:16

Yeah, so we'll just Doug, can we just go ahead with what we've already passed to just add that language on there?

49:24

Since the calendar's coming to us, yes, agenda work sessions.

49:28

Yes.

49:29

So we'll we'll add Monday the fifth as an organization meeting.

49:35

Mr.

49:36

Mayor, or sorry, Madam Chair, may I ask a question?

49:38

And do the chair to the sure.

49:41

Um I think the organizational meeting per the the way it was amended.

49:46

I think it's a special called meeting called by the mayor.

49:50

So I'm not sure that and because this one specifies the mayor, it might be the mayor that has to call it, not the council.

49:56

But we're not really calling it for the organizational meeting.

50:00

We're just putting it on the calendar.

50:01

Okay.

50:01

He's calling it.

50:02

And I would call it, but I I'd kind of like everybody to come.

50:06

So I'm saying I just want to make sure we're following the correct procedure on it.

50:11

That's all.

50:12

Yes.

50:14

Yeah, I mean at a special call, you could make a vote.

50:20

Which is you're different than the one tonight.

50:23

Yeah.

50:24

Ne my object to our town.

50:30

Dragon Cobb County.

50:32

Yeah, right there over by uh town center.

50:34

Yeah.

50:37

Long as it arrives hot.

50:40

Nothing against the varsity, but once it gets cold, it is not friendly.

50:47

Now we've done this to make you feel real good.

50:49

There was a sign in the bars you said no food over 24 hours over.

50:56

Can we get food from somewhere else please?

50:58

I think about that now.

51:00

Good gracious a lot.

51:02

I'm gonna need food.

51:06

Yeah, I'm gonna need food done the same day.

51:08

I was over there today.

51:09

Very good.

51:15

I have to try that.

51:16

I love this.

51:17

All right.

51:19

Thank you.

51:20

Nothing else coming before the JL.

51:24

We stand adjourned.

51:26

I'd like to call public works committee in order.

51:28

First item is missed to October 28th.

51:31

Make a motion to approve the minute.

51:33

I will second the motion.

51:34

All in favor.

51:36

Next item is the Splosh 2016.

51:42

Thanks, Mr.

51:43

Chairman.

51:44

Um just a quick update on the Rottenwood Creek trail project.

51:49

We finally got a signed approved contract back from GDOT, and so now we're processing that contract through the proper channels so we can get this project officially up and started now.

52:02

So took us quite a while of long discussions with GDOT to get that contract approved, but now we're proceeding forward with our project.

52:12

Um be happy to answer any questions on that project or anything else on the 2016, but that's all I have on the 2016 spLOS.

52:20

Any question?

52:21

I have a question.

52:22

Were there two tier two projects on a 2016?

52:25

I'm sorry.

52:26

Were there any tier two projects on the 2016?

52:29

There are some tier two projects, but we will not have any money left up at the time we finish up Rottenwood Creek.

52:35

I thought I was looking up.

52:38

I'm sure I've I know which one you're looking at, but there won't be any money left for that project.

52:47

One large tree again.

52:49

Yeah.

52:50

Yeah.

52:52

Yeah.

52:54

At this time I do not anticipate any money being left.

52:57

I'll put it that way.

52:58

I just saw about $10,000.

53:02

I definitely know there won't be 10 million left.

53:04

We don't have that much left in the bank.

53:06

Okay.

53:15

2022.

53:17

22, few updates.

53:18

Uh the East Dixie Trail project is continuing to move forward.

53:23

Um we've had uh few questions from some of the residents out there about drainage, and so we're bringing our consultant back in to work on those issues.

53:33

Um questions that they had.

53:36

Um Waverland Atlanta Way uh Atlanta road intersection improvement um signal poles are up.

53:44

We're going to put those on, put that in a traffic signal on flash, not this week, but the week after.

53:50

I wanted to get through all the events on the square for the tree lighting and Santa coming to town and things like that.

53:56

We don't want to impact or cause any other confusion other than all is necessary for Santa Claus.

54:01

So once we get through that, uh then we'll put it on flash and it will remain on flash for uh about a week, week and a half, and then we'll actually activate it and get it get it up and going.

54:12

So question.

54:14

Yes.

54:15

When you're saying on flash, I'm guessing you mean is it going to be red in both directions, yellow and one, red and yellow?

54:20

Yellow.

54:20

It'll be yellow in all directions, along with signs that says it will be active on such on a certain date.

54:26

Okay, yellow in all directions, so just treat it as a yield at that point.

54:30

Right.

54:30

Yep.

54:31

Okay.

54:35

Um question on the 2022 spLOS generally.

54:40

I don't have anything else on the 2022 unless anyone has any other specific questions.

54:45

Uh quick question for me then for the uh Herbert Drive culvert.

54:51

Do we have the estimate on that?

54:52

And that will be taken out of the SLOSS budget by Ward.

54:55

Correct?

54:56

Yes.

54:58

It will be when we get to that point.

55:00

Okay.

55:00

And that's in design at the moment, I guess.

55:02

We're taking a look, taking a look to see if it can be done and everything.

55:05

I'm sorry.

55:06

And that's been taken a look to make sure everything can get done correctly with that.

55:09

We yes, we're we're working on the final design right now, and we want to make sure that we've actually found we did have very early concept to do that several years ago.

55:22

So we're having to kind of dust that off a little bit and see if that will still work with the current conditions.

55:27

Um it's taking us a little longer.

55:30

We want to make sure we do this right, so uh we're not gonna hurry it up.

55:34

We're gonna make sure we get it right.

55:36

So thank you for that.

55:38

Yes, sir.

55:39

Any other questions?

55:44

Uh yes, you have our performance report.

55:46

Everything is uh still holding steady through through the holidays uh as we approach this week, Thanksgiving, and then they'll go into Christmas uh next month.

55:56

Um we will have full staff working this week uh and next week as well as during Christmas the holidays uh for sanitation to make sure we because we'll have staff off and we'll have some delays uh for picking up recycling and brush and things like that.

56:17

So we'll have to be planning to catch up during some of those next days, the week following, and so um but we'll we got full staff working, so we'll make sure we have uh we get everything caught up accordingly uh during those times typically the holidays are always a lot heavier anyways, just by extra family and extra debris and things that we always have to pick up, and so we we work uh make sure we get all that stuff collected and properly disposed of.

56:43

So we'll be working through the holidays for that.

56:46

Um make sure we have all that done.

56:48

So that's all I have on the performance report unless anyone has any questions.

56:52

The uh special pickups, those are the ones you charge for, like water heaters and stuff like that.

56:57

Yes, sir.

56:59

Yes, sir.

57:04

What else is considered on a special pickup is furniture or that kind of stuff?

57:09

Any any large debris items that will not we don't normally pick up with our roll carts?

57:15

Uh it won't fit in the roll cart.

57:17

Uh it's considered a special pickup.

57:19

So it can be furniture, appliances, any large debris type items.

57:26

And you call and make an appointment for that.

57:28

You do.

57:29

Uh you can you can call or you can use our trash talk app and request a special pickup and we'll put it on the list.

57:36

If you go to Trash Talk it list everything that's considered a special pickup, trashy will tell you.

57:41

Okay.

57:42

Yes.

57:43

And then they'll one of the foreman will come by and actually take a look at it, and then you get a notification as to how much the fee will be.

57:50

So it's not any other question.

57:53

They picked up two mattresses from that.

57:56

Next one is donation right away, Garricky Street.

57:59

Uh yes, Mr.

58:00

Chairman.

58:00

This is a uh request that we we requested from Wealth Star Kennestone Hospital as they were developing the uh parcel there at 627 Cherokee Street at the corner of Margaret and Cherokee Street.

58:13

Um they tore down the old building there and made that into a parking lot.

58:18

And so uh we asked them for either a donation of right of way or uh uh to build a sidewalk.

58:25

They actually did both.

58:26

Um they built the sidewalk along Cherokee Street, and now they're donating it back to the city.

58:31

Um so it met our standards, and we're asking for you to re receive this donation of right-of-way with the according sidewalk.

58:39

Mr.

58:39

Chairman, would you like a motion?

58:40

Yes, sir.

58:41

Make a motion to move this forward to the Wednesday uh agenda recommending approval for a motion authorizing the public works to receive a donation of 1,675 square feet of right-of-way and sidewalks, the parcel located at 627 Cherokee Street for the quick claim deed from Kennestone Hospital Inc.

58:57

Ward 4B.

58:58

Okay.

58:59

All that very clear.

59:01

And Mr.

59:01

Chair, before we get to the next item, I have disclosure that relates to the next two items.

59:06

Um I disclosed it to myself and uh uh Philip and Goldstein, my father combined on more than 10,000 of stock and ATT.

59:15

Did we put the last one on consent?

59:18

Yeah, you still no objection to consent on the last one.

59:21

Yeah.

59:25

Next Adams.

59:26

Uh next two items are requests from ATT for uh variances from the underground utility ordinance.

59:32

This first one is a rather large one.

59:35

Uh we did a similar request for them about two, two and a half years ago in the same general area, uh not the same streets per se, but it's the same general area.

59:45

So uh this is along Chestnut Hill Road, Hickory Drive, Pickett Road, Long Street Drive, Hampton Place, Colson Road, and Lake Drive.

59:54

Their request is to for a variance for to install 32,503 feet of fiber optic overlashing along these roads.

1:00:03

Um they've selected these roads to overlash due to the limited right-of-way for burial placement of fiber lines.

1:00:12

They will also be installing 41,342 feet of underground cabling along certain sections of these roads, Chestnut Hill Road, Raleigh Court, Cornwall Court, Roxton Lane, Grantham Way, Charlton Trace, Chowning Court, York Trace, Bruton Court, Westersham Place, Waverley Court, Denmead Walk, Cherbrooke Lane, Bowlingbrook Drive, Bearwood Court, Maybury Court, Marbury Court, sorry, Hampton Place, Colston Road, Breckenridge Road, and Beauregard Drive.

1:00:45

Um again, we did a very similar request two and a half or so years ago.

1:00:49

Um they worked very well by doing the large area at one time.

1:00:54

They worked very well with us, and we've we have no issues with them doing this same large request again.

1:01:00

I have a question.

1:01:01

Yes, sir.

1:01:02

What is the overlash map that overlashes where they take uh the new cabling and they attach it to the existing cabling, and when they say overlash, it's literally like wrapping a coil around the existing cabling.

1:01:15

Literally did it.

1:01:18

Any other question?

1:01:27

Yeah, motion approved.

1:01:29

Second, all in favor.

1:01:32

Thank you.

1:01:33

Next item is uh Washington Avenue.

1:01:36

This is the uh second request, May TNT uh for a little shorter location uh for a variance from the ground utility ordinance for the along Washington Avenue from the utility pole located at 77 Cold Street to the utility pole at 17 Rock Street.

1:01:52

This uh consists of 2400 feet of fiber optic overlashing um along Washington Avenue from 77 Cole Street to 17 Rock Street.

1:02:02

Um this is to provide updated service to the uh structure at 17 Rock Street.

1:02:07

This is located in Ward 5A.

1:02:09

Um we do have overhead structures uh in this area, and we do not have any issues with this overlashing request.

1:02:15

Make a motion to approve that on Washington Avenue.

1:02:19

Second, all in favor.

1:02:22

Thank you.

1:02:22

Uh next Adams McDonald's streets be studied.

1:02:26

Mr.

1:02:26

Chairman, can we move on?

1:02:28

On uh consent.

1:02:30

Those last two on consent.

1:02:33

Okay with that.

1:02:34

Yes, consent.

1:02:36

Thank you.

1:02:37

McDonald Street.

1:02:38

This is requested by Councilmember Walker for us to uh look at a pedestrian safety improvement at the intersection of Maxwell Street and McDonald Street.

1:02:46

Uh we're proposing to conduct a speed study on McDonald Street from Whitlock Avenue to Maxwell Street to evaluate vehicle volume speeds and other conditions to see if this uh could determine if pedestrian safety improvements can be uh installed at this intersection.

1:03:04

Uh if it is, it's we would propose a four-way stop condition with the addition of pedestrian crosswalks at this intersection.

1:03:10

McDonald Street from Whitlock to Maxwell is approximately 1,167 feet in length with a 40-foot right of way.

1:03:17

Does have a current postage speed limit of 25 miles an hour.

1:03:20

It is considered a residential street.

1:03:22

It is located in ward 3A.

1:03:24

Just as a point of reference, we did do a speed study in September of 2022.

1:03:29

At that time, it did not meet volume requirements for further consideration for traffic improvements at that time.

1:03:35

The request is for traffic calming, not intersection improvement.

1:03:38

I just wanted always like all of you to have the full information.

1:03:42

Um I don't know if volume will have changed in the last three years, but we'll we need to take another look to see where the volumes at before we can move forward.

1:03:51

This is just for a speed study request.

1:03:54

Question that a motion.

1:03:55

Yes.

1:03:55

Um you're okay with this.

1:03:59

Okay.

1:03:59

Uh make a motion to approve.

1:04:01

Uh just want to double check.

1:04:04

Second.

1:04:06

Second.

1:04:06

All in favor.

1:04:08

Thank you.

1:04:10

Next Adam.

1:04:11

No, no objection.

1:04:12

No objection.

1:04:13

No objection to consent.

1:04:15

Right, Wood Creek stop sign.

1:04:19

Uh we had this request before you uh a few months ago.

1:04:23

Um, where we requested a speed study.

1:04:25

So we received um the feedback for the speed study along uh Rosewood Creek Drive.

1:04:33

Um this was for the consideration for the installation of a three-way stop at Briar Pond Way in Rosewood Creek Drive with the associated pedestrian improvements for crosswalks at this intersection.

1:04:43

So we did complete the evaluation.

1:04:44

We don't find any issues with the installation of the three-way stop condition with pedestrian crosswalks.

1:04:49

These improvements will require the installation of crosswalks and improvements to the sidewalk access points.

1:04:54

Total estimated cost for these items are 2500.

1:04:57

This is located in ward 6B.

1:05:00

This will require public hearing, and we will, if this is approved and move forward, we will post the signs and notif proper notifications of the subdivision.

1:05:09

Um quick question and then motion.

1:05:12

Are you okay with this going forward for a public hearing?

1:05:15

Yes.

1:05:16

Uh make a motion to move this forward without recommendation to the one say agenda.

1:05:20

Since it requires a public hearing.

1:05:25

All in favor, right here.

1:05:30

Uh proposal splash 2028.

1:05:35

Yes, Mr.

1:05:36

Chairman.

1:05:37

This is our continuing agenda item uh for consideration of the 2028 SPLOSS project list.

1:05:44

Um Mark, if I could jump in right here, there is some good news.

1:05:47

Some of you know about uh, and that is that uh I told you before we had a meeting uh with the county with all the city managers in the county and their finance staff.

1:05:57

Um at that meeting, uh we talked about some different things that they were proposing to change.

1:06:02

One was that they uh wanted to go ahead and take the radio costs and put that on the county side and so take that out of what it was gonna charge to the cities.

1:06:11

So that ended up getting uh about four million extra that we were gonna get uh because of that, which um was good.

1:06:18

Um, but they were insistent that the courthouse was their number one concern, and they were definitely gonna keep that in for uh a countywide project.

1:06:28

Um so I suggested that they go uh and change the amount that they're using uh for the estimate.

1:06:36

Um and then we talked about that for a while.

1:06:39

Um, asked the finance department what they thought the actual would be and then got concurrence among everybody at the table to go ahead and try to put that to the commissioners and ask them if they were okay with that.

1:06:53

And uh very happy that I got an email back saying that they are, so and they're willing to do it.

1:06:59

Uh the big the big discussion was about you know trying to sell the bond, obviously.

1:07:05

Um the SPLOST, and in doing that, um the point some of us were making was that if we we have the extra money in there in the actual um beginning of the project where we can put uh more money into different things that people want uh to see in the SPLOST, then it's probably got a lot better chance of passing than if it's just very minimal on the amount of money that we're actually estimating, and we can just do you know, repaving roads and do storm drainage and things like that.

1:07:33

So uh they did agree, thankfully, so that boots our number up 20 million dollars.

1:07:39

So instead of 58, we're at 678.

1:07:42

So that's gonna help a lot with uh what we need to do.

1:07:47

It doesn't include, I mean, we've got a lot more that could be added in, a whole lot more, you know, twice that or more.

1:07:52

Um, but it does at least uh take us over the what we had in there is must have.

1:07:59

And so I'll let Mark jump in at where the numbers are now.

1:08:02

Yeah, uh, thanks, Bill.

1:08:03

And that was very happy news to give us a little bit more breathing room on this.

1:08:08

However, um, on what we have projected for the tier one list, we're stating at 69 million, so we only have like nine million more uh to play with there to get to the 78 million dollar amount.

1:08:21

So, with what we have laid out, um, it's all up to Mayor and Council on how you would like to do those, do the what we have laid out or uh add to the um the second page with the what we have classified as tier two, and there's no rhyme or reason for what's on tier two other than we what we tried to prioritize um either current projects or uh priority-wise as far as capital requests.

1:08:50

Um tier two is is ranked from most expensive to least expensive.

1:08:56

Uh I did add in uh Mr.

1:08:57

Ken had asked if we do a light um evaluation for Lawrence Street, so I did add that in.

1:09:05

Um so it's right below that the top line there.

1:09:10

So, but everything else is kind of most expensive to least expensive.

1:09:14

A couple of other exceptions in there for light uh projects.

1:09:18

When I say light, we won't might not do the full streetscape.

1:09:22

Scope it down a little bit.

1:09:24

We can still do work, but can't afford to do the whole thing.

1:09:26

So if mayor and council were to choose, well, let's go ahead and do a project, do that project, but we can't afford to do the whole thing, but we can do part of it, so let's just do the what we're calling the light version.

1:09:38

We can go ahead and do that, and so we can go ahead and do some work on XYZ Street, whatever that may be.

1:09:44

So uh you'll see a few of those in there as well.

1:09:47

So um again, I'm happy to answer questions, or we can go through this or whatever the direction uh mayor and counsel would like.

1:09:56

Yes, ma'am, I'm calling.

1:09:57

Okay.

1:10:00

Um I sound like a broken record, and I know that I'm sounding like Carlisle, but I would ask that we consider moving uh fire station 55 and 52 rebuild remodels to a tier one project.

1:10:13

55 is on here for 9.6 million, 52 for 1.2 million.

1:10:19

I know 55 was built in 70, as in 1970.

1:10:25

Um I don't know when 52 was built, but we're asking our first responders to live in unacceptable conditions in my mind.

1:10:40

Yes, sir.

1:10:41

Mark, my question on um Lawrence Street.

1:10:45

You've got uh the widening the street to 22 feet before we were talking about 20 feet.

1:10:51

Is there been some and having a six-foot sidewalk instead of a five foot?

1:10:56

Yes, sir.

1:10:57

We we think um we can get 22 feet by removing one sidewalk off one side, and we think we can get two eleven foot lanes of traffic.

1:11:05

Okay.

1:11:06

So is that a standard or is that going that's what we would prefer to have on that road?

1:11:13

Um as narrow as what it is.

1:11:15

Yeah, um, it's currently 10 foot, and that's very, very tight when you get big trucks moving through there.

1:11:22

So um 10 and a half would be the absolute minimum, but we would prefer an 11 foot if we can get it that way.

1:11:29

Okay.

1:11:29

That's how we would like to move forward with the design, unless we get we run into something where we can't.

1:11:34

So yes, sir.

1:11:38

One thing I'd have been I had I have been asked out from some residents as well on uh par uh no park on park within my ward on that.

1:11:45

I know that these we have the small one over on Lake Drive.

1:11:49

I know I'm still getting out questions about another park in the ward.

1:11:52

So can you I've asked staff before to take a look at seeing the cost on that.

1:11:57

Can you please take a look at that and see if that's there is um I know it's two, I know there's two million for citywide park improvements right now.

1:12:08

Oh need to look rest to get two routes.

1:12:13

I thought we had one on there, but um I'll have to go back and look on that maybe on my other list and 55.6 it's on the yeah, I can see fifty page.

1:12:24

I can see 55, I didn't see 52.

1:12:27

Oh, there it is.

1:12:30

Yep, I see it.

1:12:32

Yeah, and I don't know when 52 was built, but I know 55 was built in 70.

1:12:38

Okay, I can see it.

1:12:41

So 55 is in ward one.

1:12:44

52 probably is ward seven.

1:12:46

Ward five.

1:12:47

Oh, it's five.

1:12:48

That's your ward.

1:12:50

It's right there on Lake Dodd.

1:12:52

Wait a second, that doesn't sound that's not right.

1:12:54

Yeah, right.

1:12:54

52 is the one on Lake Dot or Dot or whatever that is, right?

1:13:00

Dodd.

1:13:01

So that would be fifty that I think it's you.

1:13:04

No, it's on the other side of the street, it's right there by the Walmart.

1:13:07

No, no, I know.

1:13:08

Walmart's in your ward.

1:13:09

Okay, well, if it's mine, then they're both mine.

1:13:12

I know 55 for a fact is on Franklin Gateway on the west side of the street.

1:13:18

Okay.

1:13:36

Anything else public work?

1:13:39

No, on the fire stations that put us over the 78 million amount if we're doing all the all the ones listed with tier one.

1:13:47

No.

1:13:48

No.

1:13:50

Do we have any money reserved for like 500,000 or 750,000 for each ward?

1:13:58

Yes, sir.

1:13:58

500.

1:13:59

Yes, sir.

1:14:00

It's it's it's included uh on the first page.

1:14:03

500,000 as the current amounts.

1:14:06

It's on that first page, right?

1:14:08

And shows 500,000 for each.

1:14:10

Yeah.

1:14:13

I think that's a good way for some of the stuff.

1:14:18

So do we have any parts?

1:14:20

Is it all public works?

1:14:23

Um well, we've got a lot of public safety in there.

1:14:27

Um streets and drainage.

1:14:28

We do have some parks uh in the second list, uh tier two projects.

1:14:35

The reporters and uh we got uh there are two um in the Franklin Gateway turf.

1:14:40

Yeah, turf and then citywide park improvements between those two projects.

1:14:46

That's 5.54 in tier one.

1:14:48

Right.

1:14:49

Because the last one's a facility improvement for the city hall, and of that 7.6.

1:15:06

I'd read the county said they they don't have any more property left.

1:15:12

I just wonder if we could propose a joint venture you know the double compost property because it it touches county pro I'd love to see us give part of it go with this with like each school we have some of them and the county have some because I think they'll be you know the guy said we can't even find 10 acres of paper.

1:15:44

Yeah, we can do more we can serve or black ward one and then have a lot of parts.

1:15:51

Um I'd love to buy cheaply that property, yeah.

1:15:56

They uh the the county's basically saying that uh if if we have a joint project we want to do that we should come to them and propose it.

1:16:05

So I didn't mean to surprise you, but that was good Christmas project.

1:16:13

Yeah, because we we just saw how many parts each of 41 and that that's part of the reason.

1:16:20

We have property and Ms.

1:16:24

Mayor, that's part of the part of the reason I was asking them on the thing there is because that's uh I've as you saw at the rezoning hearing, even they were asking about parks and stuff there too.

1:16:33

So it's it's it's been a pretty common request over the past few years.

1:16:37

That could be a dynamite part with if the county work was gonna be six very large.

1:16:46

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that out.

1:16:51

Understand how this is laid out.

1:16:53

The 2022 splice amount.

1:16:56

Are you carrying that forward or I mean what on you on the spreadsheet page?

1:17:01

I'm just no no sir.

1:17:03

That that is just to show if if that account had funding in the 2022 SPLOS, that's just to show you what that was funded at.

1:17:10

Okay, so you can compare it to what we're proposing to go in the 2028 SPLOSS.

1:17:15

Okay.

1:17:15

That's all that is, just for comparison purposes.

1:17:18

Oh, okay.

1:17:19

Yeah, if I remember if I remember correctly, um we had to do some cutting down on the 22 splash due to the to the fact that it was getting proposed around the same time as COVID and uh County wasn't sure what the funding was going to look like at that time, given the fact that we're going into the c going into a pandemic.

1:17:38

County came back and cut us about eight million.

1:17:41

Yeah, so project or back when we had the the ARPA funds, it was we had an estimate of 1.8 million to do Lawrence Street and now it's up to 5.1.7.

1:17:59

Yeah, I would have got a bargain if you had to let me have the earlier.

1:18:06

You need to find it.

1:18:06

No, it doesn't license I know.

1:18:08

Do I have any money left I can give it to Carla?

1:18:12

You do you do?

1:18:13

You do have money.

1:18:15

That wouldn't be appropriate.

1:18:17

That wouldn't be appropriate.

1:18:18

This later people in your I was thinking that the retired people could donate their money as a deal.

1:18:24

That's how that works.

1:18:25

No.

1:18:28

Did you check it in motion?

1:18:29

Yes, sir.

1:18:34

Eight tomorrow.

1:18:34

Food for thought for the next committees.

1:18:36

Okay.

1:18:37

We'll make those adjustments and bring it back.

1:18:39

Thank you.

1:18:40

Next time.

1:18:41

Thank you, Mark.

1:18:44

Thank you.

1:18:49

I'd call it a special call council meeting, the work session order, please.

1:18:53

First item is the October 28th meeting minutes.

1:18:58

Is there a motion?

1:18:59

So I'll move uh make a motion to approve.

1:19:01

Second.

1:19:02

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

1:19:05

Motion carries you now as we executive session.

1:19:08

Yes, sir.

1:19:09

We have uh need for executive session for property acquisition and disposition and also legal advice.

1:19:17

Mark said there with those red covers.

1:19:24

Two legal matters that the legal advice include top yes, sir.

1:19:28

That are pent that are ongoing.

1:19:30

Yes, sir.

1:19:31

Make a motion to go into executive session for property acquisition disposition and for legal matters.

1:19:43

Leasing all property, I think it's acquisition and leasing, I think is what it says in the code.

1:19:50

In the state code.

1:19:52

Whatever the code says, I would say acquisition and or disposition.

1:19:57

And or disposition, which includes leasing.

1:20:00

Right.

1:20:00

That's a disposition.

1:20:01

Correct.

1:20:02

And legal.

1:20:04

Okay.

1:20:08

All those in favor, please age run in.

1:20:11

Motion carries.

1:20:12

We are entering.

1:20:14

Executive session.

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Summary of Proceedings

Kennesaw City Council Work Session - November 25, 2025

On November 25, 2025, the Kennesaw City Council convened for a work session to review administrative updates, discuss legislative priorities, approve consent items, and deliberate on capital improvement projects and future SPLOST proposals. The meeting included updates on financial collections, park construction progress, and the organization of the new council term, concluding with a special call for executive sessions regarding property and legal matters.

Consent Calendar

  • Meeting Minutes: Unanimous approval of the October 28, 2025, meeting minutes for the Finance Committee, Parks/Recreation Committee, and Public Works Committee.
  • Agenda Work Sessions: Motion carried to adopt the proposed committee and council meeting dates, moving the September Monday meeting to the preceding Thursday (Labor Day conflict) and the Wednesday Veterans Day meeting to Thursday.
  • Second Readings: Consented to the second reading of the Alcohol Code Section Revision and the Vehicle Mobilization Service fee increase from $50 to $75.
  • AT&T Variances: Consent approved for AT&T variance requests to install up to 32,503 feet of fiber optic overloading in the Chestnut Hill vicinity and 2,400 feet along Washington Avenue.
  • Street Studies: Consent approved to proceed with a pedestrian safety speed study on McDonald Street (between Whitlock and Maxwell) and a speed study for Rosewood Creek Drive (Briar Pond Way intersection).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Council Member Kent (Ward 4B): Expressed strong support for upgrading Fire Stations 52 and 55 to Tier One projects, citing unacceptable living conditions for first responders, specifically noting the 1970 construction date of Station 55.
  • Council Member (Unidentified Name in Transcript): Proposed a light evaluation for Lawrence Street widening and requested staff review for a potential new park in Ward 7 (Lake Dodd area).
  • Council Member (Ward 1): Highlighted the lack of county property availability for joint ventures and advocated for a county partnership for a new facility in the Franklin Gateway area.
  • Staff/Manager: Noted that the Georgia Real Estate Brokerage law (requiring out-of-state landlords to have a local broker) had already passed, while bills regarding building code "shot clocks" and rental property restrictions were under review.

Discussion Items

Finance Committee Updates

  • Hotel/Motel Tax: Staff reported a one-time collection increase of approximately $184,000 (comprising $174,000 from a Marketplace retroactive payment for 2021-2023 and $10,000 from prior months). The normalized monthly collection was ~$264,650, the lowest in four years, while auto rental tax collections hit an all-time high for October.
  • Auto Rental Tax: Year-to-date reserve increases totaled $39,000; conference center reserves increased by $35,000.
  • Pension Plan IPS: Council reviewed revisions to the Investment Policy Statement to align with OCGA 47-20-84, increasing the investment range for alternatives from 15% to 20%.

Parks, Recreation & Tourism

  • West Dixie Park: Construction is approximately 80% complete; concrete work is being finalized, with tree planting scheduled for December 12 and the playground for the week of December 15. Full completion is targeted by the end of January.
  • Burrus Park: A pipe replacement project potentially costing up to $250,000 is required to maintain vehicle access and bridge integrity; $50,000 is currently in the bond, with additional funding potentially needed.
  • Budget Status: Approximately $75,629 remains in the uncommitted balance; funds are earmarked for the Larry Sminski Park project, with future needs planned for Atherton Square and Glover/Kirby Parks.

Legislative Priorities

  • Revenue Impact: Discussion focused on the potential for state revenue replacement bills to negatively impact local taxation. Council expressed concern that state tax code changes should not reduce local revenue.
  • Building Codes: Bill SB 812 was identified as a critical item regarding "shot clocks" for permits and potential expansion into design standards.
  • Municipal Tort Reform: Pending Supreme Court ruling on HB 531; Council to monitor for late spring/summer decision.
  • Utility Regulations: Concerns raised regarding FCC rules shifting burdens for right-of-way access to cities.

SPLOST & Capital Projects (2028)

  • Revenue Adjustment: After negotiations with Cobb County, the estimated SPLOST revenue increased from $58 million to $67.8 million due to the removal of road maintenance costs from the city burden.
  • Project Tiering: The Tier 1 list projects at $69 million, requiring a $9 million gap to reach the $78 million target.
  • Fire Stations: Staff confirmed Fire Stations 52 ($1.2M) and 55 ($9.6M) are currently listed but noted that adding them would exceed the $78 million cap. Council expressed desire for both to move to Tier 1.
  • Joint Ventures: Discussion explored a joint venture with Cobb County for a multi-purpose facility in the Franklin Gateway area, given the county's lack of available land.

Organizational Meeting Scheduling

  • Special Call: Moved to add Monday, November 5th as a special organizational meeting for the new council term. The meeting will cover rules of procedure, travel seminars ($7,000 per council member), and staff appointments.
  • Recruitment: Discussion on managing conflicts with school breaks (Spring/Newton/Christmas) for council members with children.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes Approved: The minutes for October 28, 2025, across all committees were officially approved.
  • Legislative List: The legislative priorities list was adopted for the Mayor's upcoming meeting with other city mayors on December 11th.
  • Agenda Work Session: The committee meeting schedule was formally adjusted to accommodate Labor Day, Veterans Day, and the GAPPT conference (moving March 24th to March 19th).
  • AT&T Variances: Approval granted for the overlay cabling requests in two distinct districts.
  • Public Works Donations: Motion to authorize the Public Works Director to receive a donation of 1,675 square feet of right-of-way and a sidewalk from Kennestone Hospital at 627 Cherokee Street (Ward 4B) passed.
  • Executive Session: Council voted to enter executive session for discussions on property acquisition/disposition and legal advice regarding two ongoing matters.

Meeting Transcript

I'd like to be called committed to order. The first item on the agenda are the meeting minutes for October the 28th, 2025. Is there a motion? Motion I'll second your motion. Motion to approve. The motion has been made in a second. All of you in favor, raise your hand. Right hand. Whatever hand you can. Three. Oh, okay. The next items on the agenda are the hotel motel tax, auto rental tax, and finance update. We'll take those from this. Thank you, Chairman. Good evening. Good evening, everyone. So the first item that I have is the hotel motel. I am happy to announce that there is a very large uptick in collections this month, as you probably have noticed. This is a one-time increase. This is a result. In this particular instance, it was a marketplace that started reporting later. And they were able to determine, reach out to them and determine that they had not submitted collections for uh from 2021 to 2023. And so uh we were able to speak with the company and they voluntarily um provided the information as well as the payment, and so that amounts to approximately 174,000 this month. That is a one time that will not be you see repeated. They have been um paying consistently since that time, but they um did not start and report the time that they were um that they should have, so that was a one-time collections, and we also had another um two payments that were for prior months that totaled 10,000. So it's 184,000 that are um outside of the monthly collections. So if you normalize those collections for the month, it equals around 264,000, 65,000, which is the lowest that we've seen in the last four years. So the pattern that we have seen previously is continuing. Um we will um continue to make adjustments. Um looking at our hotel, I'm sorry, auto rental, which is actually the highest October that we received. So they've kind of done a flip-flop there. Um, and so the increase in reserve for the conference um center uh increase by 35,000. The increase for reserves for auto rental increase year to date by 39,000. So the total year to date um over our distributions is 74,000 for the year, and so we'll continue to monitor that. Other than that, for our finance update, there were no major changes in our finance department. Um we did issue um business license renewals, they will go out. Um you should start seeing them in the mail next week. Uh we are um finalizing our annual audit, so those um presentations should be or will be scheduled in January for the committee meetings I'm sorry for the um January finance. No, that will be the January council meeting. I'm sorry, January council meeting. We should have those prepared for that, not the committee meetings in January. So we should be good to go for that, and those um are the reports that I have for this month. I just have a question on the amount to be reserved for the three percent on the second page of the combined. Um why is that a negative one second? Negative uh 13K. Okay, um, because for um we had an extra 31,000 that came out and that came out of um the reserves, and so the 31,000 for the month plus the normal distribution took it negative, so we pulled it into the res out of the reserves, but year to date we're still up. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, sir. Ms.

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