I'd like to call the city council agenda work session to order, please.

First item is approval of the November the 10th, 2025 agenda work session minutes.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

Motion carries.

Okay, so we had the BLW meeting this morning.

First item that we actually presented was there was a presentation of an award, and I kind of had to step out, but I think that what I heard was this was the sixth time we've received this award.

Is that correct?

Ron.

Okay, so we've received it over five times.

And so it's a platinum award, but it's the um the Georgia Association of Water Professionals Distribution System of Excellence Award.

So our water department is continuing to kill it in all things that they do.

Um the next item has to do with a big client, and I think that it's in our book.

So I'm gonna basically what happened is we have a data center that is going up in South Fulton.

Yes, and the requirement of that data center is that they have to pay for the construction cost for any construction power centers, so to bring the power load down to them.

And it's one point if I've got correctly, it's 1.4 million.

Um, and they've already actually paid it, so we've got it.

And what this motion was was for us to both receive it and then expense against it for the cost of construction.

All right, so again, this is to do with the data center that's in South Fulton that we will be supplying power to through Marietta Power, but they're having to build their own station to bring the power down to them.

May I right please they paid 28 million in advance for the substation?

Right.

So this is this will be ongoing and very unusual, but very good.

Yeah, so basically, this is they're paying cost, which is exactly what we want.

It's not coming from our either capital improvements or operating fund, none of that.

It's coming from them, and they're paying that, and so that's what this item was from electrical today.

Um the next item was Cobb Marietta Water Authority, and I'll turn it over to Councilman Shalfont for the last time.

Okay.

Um this is a report of uh uh ending October 31st this year.

Uh water sales for the month averaged 79 million gallons a day compared with the budget of 78.

The water sales revenue totaled 8.8 million dollars, and um uh exceeded the budget expectations by 246,000, which is pretty close with any of those things.

Uh net income is 4.1 million.

Then you've got spending on capital projects totaled 61 million dollars at the end of October, with a remaining annual CIP budget commitment of 30 point five million, which we probably won't make, and that'll be held over till next year, a lot of it.

Um rainfall uh totaled 36 inches last year.

It was 44.

It's about a 13 percent decrease in uh water.

I'll tell you a little bit about the planning that the water authority did with their uh planning committee.

Um of the projects they've got for next year.

They've got uh the uh 26 budget.

There are 48 planned um replacements for uh water uh lines.

That's linear water lines, so that's um eight of those projects are carrying over from 2025.

Uh that was 1.5 million of those 48 projects.

Uh seven of them constitute sixty-six percent of the budget.

Um the CIP budget cost has changed um 2026 decreased by 14 million dollars, um, which will probably be rolled into the next year on some of that stuff.

Um the planning committee, the um the committee made a motion uh to approve and recommend to finance committee a five percent increase for fiscal year 2026, um, and to continue planning the planning estimate of five percent per year through 2029, and um six percent in 2030.

These planning estimates will be reviewed annually and uh revised revised as more uh information is available.

Um of the things that we got involved with the finance committee was the um total number of positions for 2025 remains the same.

There's 120 full-time positions at the uh water authority.

Um hundred percent of the 2026 net income along with 2.2 million of bond proceeds and 11.7 million of capital reserves will fund the 2026 capital improvement budget.

Can you say that again?

I'm sorry.

Okay, 100% of the net income along with 2.2 of some of the bond proceeds, and 11.7 million of capital reserves will fund the 2026 capital program budget without having to borrow more money to do that.

So um with the adoption of the 2026 budget, the water authority, the uh Cobb County Marietta Water Authority is committing um to only the 26th improvement plan number and the approving next four years for planning purposes only.

Future cost estimates will be updated annually as more information is available.

That's it.

Okay, thank you.

Um the next item was a couple of committee reports.

Uh the audit committee is setting up a meeting for January 12th.

Nope, I'm sorry, I'm in state.

I just saw Ms.

Brown coming down.

The next item was the finance report.

Sorry for skipping you.

Good evening.

So I'll be presenting the uh November and October um financial reports.

So for on page one, the month of October, the bulk resources were under budget, and the total power is over budget, so it means that we are paying more for less essentially.

So we have over budget.

And for the usage, and we are is costing us more to get to receive it.

Year to date, we are under um total projected cost by 800 to 14,000.

The supplemental offsetting revenue is also down, so that is not um that is increasing our costs.

We are approximately 2 million over budget for our projections thus far.

The overall year-to-date cost is under budget, MIAG budget by 1.27, and total bulk resources is 2.6 million.

And so taking a look at the internal um budget.

The October costs are up by 929,000 compared to budget.

Fiscal year to date, the total project costs are up by 2.9 million, and that includes 855,000 of year-in settlement that we have accrued each month up till now.

We have 2.7 um 5 included for the full year budget, and the year-end settlement, if you recall, helps offset our cost is the credit that we receive at year end for any adjustments after we've settled all of our operating costs.

And looking forward on page three, our natural gas prices are experiencing an uptick.

Um this is due to the weather.

We're in we were anticipating an increase as we went into the winter months.

Um the October close was a low of three dollars.

The November peak was four dollars and eighty-six cents, and as of Friday, we experienced a um daily high of five dollars and thirty-four cents.

So we have seen a um tremendous increase from the October to the December.

We're hoping then that will continue to flow over into January, and that will affect our winter revenue numbers.

The spot market pricing also reflective of the increase.

The October close was at $3.

Um, the Nober November 26th pricing reached $4.59.

So as I said, that will help us with our supplemental sales.

Looking at page five, it's just a um quick snapshot of the November 12th date, is showing the plant operations at that particular hour.

We were that was a day that the highs were in the mid-40s, the lows were in the low um the high 20s.

So we had a um cold snap, and that lasted for a couple of days, and those were some of the change in the plant operations that we noticed for um hourly pricing, and those were all beneficial to us since we're a long city.

Um looking at page six, I did there's one item that I would would like to note.

Wandsley cycle, Wandsley 9, the um combined cycle was scheduled to come back online yesterday.

That one has experienced a um delay, so it will not be back online until the 22nd, and so that is the third resource in line as far as um in order of the cheapest resources that we have available.

Madam Yar.

Oh, please.

Sorry.

For the uh with Wansley 9 being out of commission for right now, then uh us having these uh the with the gas prices going on up and probably having some some of the market prices be what they're gonna be.

What are the resources we're likely going to be seeing then if that's knocked out if we have to go above?

So back to the coal plant for now.

So yes, we're back to the coal.

Um if we see a um pricing that is advantageous enough for us, we will um include Addison in that um stack as well.

Thank you.

Okay, on page 12 is our wholesale water, and that is in line.

As I mentioned, we've seen um a reduction in the usage of water this year, and that was reflective in Council Michelle funds report as well.

Taking a look at the financials, our operating revenues, and this is on page one.

Our operating revenues are under for all of the utilities for the month versus last year.

Um, the year-over-year differential for the water and wastewater is volume.

The electric has to do with the um distributor contributions and the lack thereof this year versus last year's.

So we did not have the additional revenue for that contribution to be included this year, and so that's where you'll see the deduction in revenue there.

Looking um at the uh year to date, the rollover of reserves.

I did want to mention I'm sorry, this is still for the month of uh fiscal year for um November through November.

I wanted to mention the use of reserves that has to do as I mentioned um previously with the rollover.

So any of the purchases that were not fully liquidated at the end of the year for FY25, we rolled over the revenue in order to match the expenditure as not to reduce the overall um expense allotment for the BLW for this fiscal year.

Next, we'll take a look at our um year-to-date actuals.

We are down um compared to last year by just um just under $4 million, and that has to do with the contributor as well as uh the reduction in the usage for our water and sewer this year, and that concludes my report.

All right, are there any questions?

See no, thank you so much.

All right, so the next item, go back to this.

We had committee reports, and again, we're setting a audit meeting for January 12th of next year.

And we got a budget rate committee meeting.

The first budget that we looked at, a first rate that we looked at was the electric rate.

And I am happy to say that there is no increase to the electric rate for 2026.

So last year we did have the I believe it was 2.5 on the electric side.

But we did last year, but this year, no increase again.

So that is always wonderful news.

Please.

Yeah, 12 years ago.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um, as you heard in Mr.

Shalfant's um report on water, the water authority has a increase of 5%, and the board approved that 5% increase as a pass-through.

So there will be a 5% increase for baseline water, actually for all water.

Um with the wastewater, the waste water rate went up three and a half percent, and that's coming from the water authority, and it's a pass-through uh voted on by the board, pass through to consumers.

I have a question.

Please on water rates.

Uh on the and this may be for Ron, on the water rates for irrigation.

Um we don't charge sewer for irrigation, but the water rate is the same as the tier four.

So is that typical how much an average homeowner uses for their um if they have a sprinkler system?

Can you come down, Ron?

I'm gonna make him speak anyway, Sam.

He's young.

But from if I'm looking at this correctly on the irrigation rates, they're going up too, but uh the actual commodity charge is eleven oh three, which is the same as the tier four for residential, and that's assuming they use thirteen thousand or more gallons.

Correct.

And and they don't they still pay the base rate, which is currently at 1485 going to 1559.

Is that competitive around uh the cities surrounding Marietta?

Because I I know I've lived in a couple different places than that rate.

Um is that is that 1103 per gallon, or are they paying the flat rate 1103 or a thousand gallons?

Per thousand gallons.

Do we know what the average per residential that has a sprinkler system uses?

I can't break it down the average residential that has a sprinkler system, but our typical average residential customer uses somewhere between four to six thousand gallons a month.

I just think well, I think that's a little high.

Um for irrigation when you I think we would want to make that attractive to homeowners to keep their lines up and and keep the properties up.

I mean, you can tell the neighborhood that has sprinkler systems versus one that that doesn't.

Um the real savage is you don't have to pay for sewer.

Right.

That's right.

Second thing, controversy, some of these reflect conservation.

Right, that's kind of where these tiers came from the North Metropolitan Water District.

They kind of told folks you needed to rate the heavy base rate, uh, initial tier, and they had a percentage that you would be above each one, you know, maybe 15 or 10 percent for you know between the first and second tier, and they broke the tiers down like that.

So, yes, that's that's why we got those rates the way they are.

Tiers are in the just regular residential, but they don't tier it for the uh irrigation.

Correct, because that's that's considered the a um yes.

The uh water and sewer rates, the um, but the uh is optional on the on the irrigation.

That's why tier four, if you use if you've got to use that much water, you gotta use it, but on the irrigation side is kind of optional, you don't necessarily have to do it.

Right, I don't.

uh irrigation correct because that's that's considered the a um yes the uh water and sewer rates the um but the uh is optional on the on the irrigation that's why tier four if you use if you've got to use that much water you got to use it but the on the irrigation side is kind of optional you don't necessarily have to do it right can what is the cost to have a meter put in for the separate uh well it depends on if you have to have the uh a tap you have to have a tap it's about thirteen hundred dollars if you've got an existing line that you can tap into if it's big enough then it'd be the cost of the meter to be in the you know probably the four or five hundred dollar range do we know if it's cheaper to just hook the irrigation up to your regular water line versus well it depends on what size the service line is uh you know most a lot of lines are uh five eighths and that's what size the meter is we require one one inch meter if you have two or one inch line to the property if you have two meters for a service standpoint because if you start running your irrigation system and you know you dishwash and take a shower you're not gonna have enough water if you have a small 5 eighths line with two 58ths meters so that's when we require that the service line the average homeowner has a five eighths thank you sure any other questions before we move on all right um don't go far um chairman's report sir you're gonna go over the the committee well basically the from the Miag side it was mainly doing the budget which we came up with and you know how we did that other tonight um and then under the chairperson report we we examine the the board meeting schedule for 2026 uh the board committee appointments are coming up in January for the 2026 year and then we talked about the invocation and uh to nobody see trying to remember but but the benefits for me I was primary of the budget yeah it's pretty much just our internal business all right um next is the general manager's report and I'm gonna ask Ron to go ahead and give that please okay I had one item on the general manager's report and it was the uh off system sales that we have to sign up for each year through MIAG where they sell our surplus energy outside of a participants out on the market and what we do is take a credit on our utility bill for that we've asked that the uh board approve that and recommend that council approve that for uh the mayor to sign off on the form as presented which would be a credit to the Miag bill so for the customer go ahead and you said and the reason city council has to do is because the city the city is one with the MIAG correct city has the the contract with MIAG yes they're responsible with full faith and credit so board make approves it makes a recommendation to council for approval so we'll have to add that as an item later on then correct do we need a separate item for that yes ma'am if it's contract with between the city and the BLW.

Okay so then we actually have two separate items um so do you have anything else around no I'm just gonna stick around for questions if something pops up any questions on supplemental as the credit um go ahead Mr.

Gulstein and make your motion on that if you would which one do you want do you want the on the one you just talked about on the supplemental we'll come backwards for the other one.

I make a motion to submit the rules and add and items to the agenda relating relating to the MiAG office and purchase sale margin for the spot for power power supply 26 we have a motion and a second all in favor passes unanimously go ahead please I make a motion to accept the recommendation from the Board of Lights and Water and approve the election of the Miag off systems energy sales margins for the power supply year 2026.

Second again we have a motion and a second any discussions seeing none all in favor no opposed thank you very much so the next item that we actually have to put on is the acceptance of the is actually the expenditure of the funds budget that we've already received so it's a budget amendment.

Supplemental being on consent.

No objection.

All right.

That's fine.

Yeah, that comes out of this, which is gonna have its own issues.

Um so the next is I need a um a motion um regarding the budget item.

I make a motion to suspend the rules and not invite an agenda relating to uh budget amendments got a motion and a second to suspend the rules.

All in favor.

No opposed.

Thank you.

Go ahead, please.

I make a motion to accept the recommendation of the Board on Lights and Water and approve a fiscal year 20 2026 budget amendment enabling large um large customer pay construction costs for cont continuation of construction necessary to serve customer second.

Got a motion and a second.

Any questions, comments, concerns?

Hearing none, all in favor.

Passes unanimously.

Is that good for consent?

No objection.

Objection.

Objection for consent.

Um we've covered the meeting.

Do I have comment on consent for the BLW meeting minutes?

No objection to that being on consent on the Wednesday agenda.

Okay.

You guys are very easy.

I'd like to not have it go on consent, please.

Okay.

On the uh for the record, we had an executive session about a charter item about to give the executive manager review.

I mean, I don't think we have a report other than he was given the review.

Right, yes, sir.

Okay.

Yeah, in the next uh personnel committee uh meetings that we would discuss that process because we've got a six or so individuals that need to be reviewed and council decide how to move forward with that.

So yeah, I guess I guess where I'm going just to executive session, that would be an executive session minutes.

And since the matter is complete, then I think for the BOW that I go to the BLW out of approves the executive session minutes and we're then we approve their actions, approving the minutes and approving their actions, right?

Because it's not in the minutes to come out and report.

Yeah, in January.

In January, yeah, because we didn't come out and report out of this meeting.

Um yeah, I would ask that the BLW minutes not go on consent.

Um I do have, as I said this morning, an issue with the five percent increase.

I personally cannot understand how there is a reduction in capital improvement products of capital improvement from 25 to 26 of 14 million.

There's a hundred percent coverage plus the bond plus the savings, but the we need to go up in cost that's coming to everybody, not not just Cobb County, but the City of Marietta.

We've gone up five percent, and I don't understand how that is mathing.

So I really would like to see more on the waters budget, because right now it does not make any sense to me a across the board five percent, and then to hear them say, and that's our plan for every year through 29 further, does it make sense if you somehow went down in the amount of money needed for next year for capital improvements because you're pushing 25 money forward, but you budgeted that in last year.

I don't understand how it's five percent this year.

I don't understand 26 is gonna be five percent.

So I would just ask for more information on how that equals out.

I'd be glad to um the biggest deal is the amount of infrastructure that we have to replace that's old, and that's what you get in there.

That's like what it says in there of that 66% of that budget is replacing old pipes, aged pipes, and that's not even touching the that's just touching the edge of what it is.

We got 60, 70 year old pipes that you know, and I do understand that.

And but I think that we just need to lay that out.

We're saying to people it's five percent, yeah, it's a dollar or so, but I feel like we need to explain that better.

Um again, there was the what is it 79 million gallons per day, of which the city is seven million gallons a day?

Seven and a half, so we're about 10 percent.

I don't I don't fully understand how this is happening.

I personally, and I know people say this about us, I believe this has more to do with the amount that goes to the general fund to Cobb County, and I know I'm gonna get quoted in the paper for saying that, but I think this has more to do with the large amount that goes over to that general fund that then in fact does not come back to us in a way that makes sense.

I thought they got part of their money from the general fund.

That's their their other water again.

If I'm this confused, I cannot be alone.

Well, that that general fund transfer comes out of the cob water.

Okay, so not out of this one.

But then how did they reduce by 14 million, but then need more money next year?

It's going into it's going into the infrastructure.

It's going back in.

Like I said, everything's going back into repairing pipes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've got the same number of people working.

You're spending the same amount of things.

It's it's not, I don't think they're spending an um over amount out of money that's that's done.

But can yeah, can we get the budget?

I know that you had more kind of layout today during the meeting.

Can we see that on Wednesday?

Yeah, I'll give you the whole thing.

Thank you so much.

Then you can look at it and see, but um I don't know how that'll help you, but that'll I'll be glad to give it to you.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

That's all I have.

Planning commission appointment ward forward.

Um sheehan.

Any objection is you put it on consent?

No, the new new member from that ward uh recommended this.

Oh, okay.

And Ms.

Mayor, it's okay to call it's good to ask Mr.

Anderson to make sure that that's who we who was asking for then.

Would that be appropriate, Mr.

Mayor?

Yes.

Andy just said it.

And he just said he was T that's we agree.

Okay.

Double confirm.

Consent.

Yeah.

Oh, wait, we got a mo we got a motion.

I said he made the recommendation, so that's the reason he knew about it.

Okay.

Well, we need to motion to move it forward.

You want to make the motion for it for I'll second the motion.

All those in favor, please raise right in.

Consent's fine.

Fiscal year budget amendment.

ARPA grant fund.

Ms.

Brown's gonna come explain that.

So last month um we brought before you the year-in budget reconciliation, which kind of cleans up all of the accounts throughout the city from an accounting perspective, making sure that we have enough um expenditure allocated for the year for the expenses that were occurred.

During our um uh audit process, we have um been working with our auditors, and this particular item was not covered.

Um they reclassed some expenditures related to the safety building, and in order to do that, um, we needed to have an amendment to the budget to cover the expenditures for that time frame.

All of this is still within the same ARPA budget and same ARPA allocation, it just moves the expenditure to the FY25 versus FY26, and um to ensure that those funds are covered from an accounting perspective.

So this is just one last cleanup that we were able to um uncover uh during our audit process um due to a reclass from the auditors.

Um Mr.

Mayor, two questions.

Um first with it being ARP with this being a little bit of ARPA, we're all this is all good and good and clean with the ARPA regulations, but um Doug?

Yes, sir.

Um the only other thing to note is on the actual ordinance, it does say ARPA grante G-R A N T E.

Did that mean to speed grant or grantee?

This is grant and messing up.

The no E at the end, right?

Yes, there's no A at the end.

Okay.

Any further question?

Is there a motion to move this forward?

Motion to move forward with that one grammatical revision.

Second, all those in favor, please raise your right hand.

The motion wasn't amended, but the the language was that being the case, all those arch but on consent.

Consent.

No objection.

I bail phase one.

Thank you, Mayor, and good evening.

Um so as you'll recall, this item was um put forward to the work session because there was an outstanding issue related to a power pole.

I actually drove by the property today, and that power pole has been moved, and so that issue has been addressed.

Uh the applicant, however, has submitted a new final plat that is slightly modified from the version that has been uh in front of you prior and to the versions that staff have seen as well.

So there are a couple of um points about that plat that I did want to bring out that I did want to bring out and bring to your radar.

Um firstly, as you can see from what's highlighted on the screen, uh the preliminary plat and the previous final plat as well showed full sidewalk coverage on ArborCroft Court.

The revised final plat submitted uh today shows only partial coverage on the north side of Arborcroft court as you come in.

Um so that is a change wanted to convey to you.

We've not received any explanation as to why that change was made.

And then the other change uh that is needs is currently being addressed relates to an easement which extends off of the property um onto Colston Road.

Uh we are still going back and forth with the applicant trying to get some additional information on that.

Um I feel pretty confident that we can get some additional information by Wednesday evening.

Um, but we there's a couple of things that staff would feel more comfortable with buttoning up between now and then.

Do you know if that is just trying to save money?

I don't, no sir.

Yeah.

If it's just saving money, they need to put the sidewalk in.

Yeah.

Um I kinda I agree with Griff on that one.

The sidewalk is sidewalk's usually important, especially in these kinds of developments.

Yeah, although people on this side, they walked out.

And it's really weird that they're gonna do that for that little circle.

Yeah.

It needs to be all the way over.

Yeah.

Good reason we're like that.

Yeah, they just cut it in half.

Well, they're not continuing on that main street.

Yep.

There's just also the one patch right there, too, which is um that's what I was talking about right there.

Yeah.

I believe it is continuing, it's just not highlighted.

Oh, okay.

That makes it even more questionable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If they're gonna continue down the main street, why not do it on both sides like they had?

That makes it more questionable.

Oh, you'd have more time.

Um Mr.

Mayor, may I ask a question on this?

You said you needed time to button this up.

Is Wednesday enough time or is this need to go back to committee?

Uh I think given the I think given the kind of the simplicity of the two items, we could certainly have more information by the time Wednesday um is here.

And so, but it's certainly council's determination, you're welcome to send it back to committee as you'd like and feel comfortable.

But to get to the nitty-gritty, if these lots were built, you know, before they put them you know, built the other ones, and they did the sidewalks.

Could they get a certificate of occupancy?

If you want complete if the council approves this as is put forward, then they could.

But if we don't approve it, they couldn't get it because it would be complete.

Yes sir.

You can't even get building permits if you don't approve this.

Yeah.

This will be an exception.

I personally would rather see them do it.

I mean go ahead and put it in the sidewalks now.

Yeah if they're shooting a I mean anything could happen turn the economy and they they try and they're putting in that mail kiosk right there.

And they they're gonna try to get out of the sidewalks because they have a mail kiosk I would be speculating to move this was on the original.

Yeah.

It was so the mail kiosk but it was back further that's where they've raised it they brought it yeah they bought it forward.

They brought it into the right of way and the mail kiosk was back we wasn't in the right of way.

Why is it in the right of way then if it's it was going to be private certain kind of private property why why would it be in the right of way there I don't know does it have to be marked does it have to be in the right not in the right of way or feeling tabling.

I imagine this has to do with that yeah because this is not going to be resolved by Wizard too many questions.

Yeah that's my problem as Daniel said we've not had a chance to see this plat either or updated plat.

So answer your question Mr.

Shawfont uh we prefer the male kiosk to be off of the right of way off the right of way off the right of way it was better off the way it was to start with correct because that's off the right of way on that one.

So there's so there's no question about who's responsible for any maintenance?

They've moved it inside the right of way and not dropped off half the sidewalk something's not kosher here.

A lot I have more questions now that did it can I didn't at committees after seeing this is your ward a lot of money it looks like can we give them a chance to hear our response tonight and move it forward and then ask them to come address our issues.

We will let them know yes sir they should be able to square it up by Wednesday one way or another.

And if they don't it just means we table it at Wednesday night back to or refer it back to committee for more discussion.

We're just giving a chance to do it Wednesday if they can yeah is there a motion to move it forward without consent or no recommendation or I guess no recommendation for right now the people recommending or move the award done the RIF ward or to it's what we need the motion to address concerns.

I will make the motion to move this forward to the Wednesday agenda and leave it at that I'll second that motion all those in favor please write in motion carry but like I say it won't be on consent and date sure would hit help if they could come help a lot.

I didn't realize probably move in the telephone here.

City council meeting dates sir we had passed that out pre uh previously showing the uh dates that are recommended uh we did have one one change that was made at the meeting uh that was incorporated in here and uh the only other thing that I've heard this come up has been uh the one in December the actual committee meeting because the fact we have it scheduled December 22nd and just a question of if council would want to move that to the week prior on the Thursday uh since that is so close to the holidays but um either way council prefers it could stay the 22nd or go up to uh I think it's the 17th sounds right right it'd be the 17th is a recommendation if you wanted to move it and that would match what we've done this year for the committee meetings it would yes yeah ours is on the 18th this year yeah I'd like to ask T may I ask you a question the uh January the fifth meeting organizational meetings is gonna be at a different time at noon your two new colleagues do they understand that I believe so okay we wouldn't meet until after that so it and that would be Georgia play and not Alabama and that was vicious now to start while you didn't have a microphone how you feel about the county you want to make a motion I make a motion and if it goes it goes but based off of what based on the fact that we've done the December meeting back on the Thursday before to give I guess staff a little more time than with the holidays um I'll make a motion to move this forward with one change deal

That was vicious.

Now to start while you didn't have a microphone.

Um you feel about the county.

You want to make a motion?

I make a motion, and if it goes, it goes, but based off of what based on the fact that we've done the December meeting back on the Thursday before to give, I guess, staff a little bit more time than with the holidays.

Um I'll make a motion to move this forward with one change dealing with the December committee meetings being moved to December 17th, similar to this year's second.

And then I'd like to leave it off consent and I'll talk to all three of them.

I don't have any issue with that.

And I think it's a wise move.

Yeah.

Excuse me.

Motion was made in second.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

Motion carries, and it's not on consent just for a couple of conversations.

Draft of the city council agenda.

Mr.

Goshim with the invocation, pledge of allegiance.

We have the holiday car design winners.

One of my favorites.

Yeah.

And he can still run.

Probably not as fast, but close to it.

That was a famous socially a famous uh one to middle in in 1968.

We have three people signed up for scheduled appearances.

Yep.

And for the regular meeting for November 12, 2025.

Um no objection to consent.

Any objection to consent?

Blanch, question Quest Ridge.

Thank you again, Mayor.

Um, so as you'll you will all recall this item was tabled from the November meeting.

Um until now.

Uh Mr.

Kevin Moore, who is here tonight, has provided a revised plan and stipulation letter, and just some of the high points of what that revised plan will do.

It will reduce the number of units from 79 to 76.

And then it also um seeks to address the driveway length.

Uh there were two variances associated with that, and so one of those variances would go away because it was well, the one that would remain would be those affect that were accessed by the alleyway, which were previously uh seven foot um driveways, those would now be proposed as 18 on the current plan, and then all others were previously 18 and now they will be 20 feet, and so that will be the plan that will be before you Wednesday evening.

So the six foot's gone away.

The seven foot, yes, sir.

Good anything in general for tonight that anybody would like to ask.

The entrance is still close to Matthews as opposed to something like closer to Milanche to the the other part of Plancham Bamberry.

Correct.

Okay.

Might have more on that.

And so we still have the variance to waive the required turnaround for Dennette Alleys.

Yes.

Fire, you're okay with that.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Well, the chiefs here and the chief of fire that on the more western side where it kind of deads in, I guess, in the 75, is it you know, fire truck turnaround in there?

Good evening.

Good evening.

The driveway or the dead end turnaround requirement doesn't actually come into effect under the fire code until you reach 150 feet of dead end.

And in this plan, that condition does not exist.

That's a I have a request.

That's 150 feet long.

Yes, sir.

It's 150 foot dead end from the point of radius return from an uh a another street.

Okay.

Okay.

Um that basically the dead ends in this particular proposal would be the alley um the eastern alley, the next alley over there from uh on the other side of the park, the two alleys from um on the sides of the uh activity center, and then the dead end at the top at the uh northwest northwest.

So in this case, we're not considering any of those to be fire department access roads by virtue that we have acceptable access uh around using the main streets.

Okay, and but the only ones that could theoretically be considered dead end if they if they had been long enough would have been those ones since there's only ones that quote that's correct.

And none of them hit the one fifty foot requirement.

Uh none of them hit the 150 foot requirement for fire department access roads.

Got it.

And the one that uh required the fire department access is now 20 foot for the alley.

Not the first one, but the second one there.

I believe is what says.

Uh yes, sir.

If we were going to use that alley, it would be prescriptive.

Um other thing I think I'd ask about was the uh least lead the lease ending terms for the uh billboards as well.

So something to have something I might ask about Wednesday.

Thank you.

Any other questions for tonight?

No.

615 Cobb Parkway.

Thank you, Mayor.

No new information since the packet, but this item will be before you can rezoned from CRC to CRC with an additional use of outside storage.

Um so for some time the property has stored uh operable vehicles, and um uh this is coming to you because of a lapsed business license that um has put it in a state to needing these approvals.

The planning commission has recommended approval as a legally non-conforming use with stipulations restricting storage to new passenger vehicles as opposed to large trucks, which um several years ago were on the site, uh and with the under understanding that the frontage and the entrance should be approved, improved rather.

Um and then Mr.

Parks Huff will be representing the request on Wednesday, and he's here tonight if you have any questions for him.

So it it said there were um the planning commission said there were two options.

One is the council can reinstate their previous uh I don't know if it was an ordinance or not, but the condition and what would be the advantages of one over the other if if it was just reinstated so they could use it.

Sure.

So um and as their recommendation is to reinstate as legally non-conforming, um, if you were to go a different route, it would require seven variances, and those variances would go with the property in perpetuity.

And so it comes to a stage it it uh comes to an issue of redevelopment.

And in this case, if if you were to move forward with the planning commission's recommendation, redevelopment would all of those um same issues and restrictions would reply would apply.

Right.

And also if they sold the property, that would no longer go with the property.

Um I think it would take a change in or lapse in business license in order for that to happen, but I'll defer to Mr.

Haney.

That you're correct.

Um sorry.

Yeah.

Mr.

Mayor.

Um did have a question regarding the second stipulation that the uh that the planning commission suggested.

Just I want to make sure I understand what it means.

Uh the properties neglected cob parkway frontage entrance will be improved and maintained accordingly.

What does that mean?

Yeah, so Mr.

Huff will be bringing forward some examples of what that improvement will be on Wednesday.

Um and it's this entrance, this frontage here.

Um if you'll notice the parcel is a little bit odd, and so it's the parcel that's directly onto Cobb Parkway.

And so um, I'll defer to Mr.

Puff as to what those specific improvements will be.

Staff has not received them.

Um, but that's what it's talking about.

Gotta just say it's one of those with the amorphous language in there.

I think we need something a bit if you're trying to go forward with something, you need something a bit more concrete examples or something along those lines.

Because otherwise I could I could probably drive a truck through the thing, and that's my worry.

Yeah, that might they would what's an improvement?

How would it how much improved versus the current conditions?

I'd like to make sure uh see what examples you might have of that Wednesday and stuff.

Just make sure that we get something that makes sense for the corridor.

And if you're going to be allowed to continue, I'm not saying one way or another why go for that, but it's just if you're going to do that, we need to see what see what's going to look like and make sure it protects as well as the other properties.

We will have that on Wednesday.

I would request they go on consent, please.

No objection.

Um there's something at the end of public works that was not on consent.

How did that not go in consent?

Well, there's a hearing and then there's a third second one.

Page five.

Those four items are on consent.

Any objection to that?

No objection, but Mr.

Mayor, one point.

The consolidated pension plan investment policy statement.

I think the pension board would prefer that goes into effect as soon as possible.

It's just one of those might be a motion to waive a second reading after the consent agenda.

Would that be appropriate at the appropriate time on Wednesday?

Oh, sure.

Okay.

Yes, thank you.

Those three items are on consent.

On page seven, the first item is a public hearing for Briar Pondway and Roseword Creek Drive.

Three-way stop.

Uh yes, Mr.

Mayor, we don't have any new in new information for that uh item will be ready for the public hearing on Wednesday.

Okay.

No other questions in the purchase of property by the Willis's force and Roswell Street.

Please.

I have that.

Uh, we did have another item, but we're not gonna bring it up tonight.

Uh we'll we'll do it at another executive session because the staff member cannot be here right now.

Okay.

Nothing else to come for this meeting of yarn.

Okay.