0:25I think that's for the city council and it's not for the data work session.
0:29I'll make there any changes to the data work sessions right now.
0:32So would you like a motion, sir?
0:35Make a motion to approve second.
0:43Okay, but you can't report yes.
0:58To kind of summarize what we talked about outages, considering how they handle uh software, I guess it's been implemented called FDIR which rolled out uh stated that we had about 50 uh start receiving grant for two funds in July to start approximately one smart switch per week to this program completion operation of targeted by 2028 uh to track uh installations and report progress these these are uh funded by a grant uh City Six Talk in the two strong labor cut the hybrids of customer experiences one point four or five outages per year and customers were plus or minus one outside this two point four uh the targeted service availability is many point one percent uh pretty close to the unit based and focused on security cloud downs AI palette's call since sediment grid uh S upgrades out it's SMS capability and six days and monitor also by the IT uh uh department uh it's I guess budget is two point nine percent of the operating expense, which is uh I guess uh we took four one percent.
3:32Doing the the storm uh there were several uh I guess the people from the groups from as far as Florida getting pay help basically the uh it's necessary as protect protected when we have people from uh tallahas also from uh scale.
4:11Uh these crowds uh would be a four emergency emergency preparedness price was falling the crew's inspected all equipment and drugs to ensure that they went out to work the condition in order to assess the conditions after the start the crew conducted assessments to evaluate the condition of one and through a line's check in the new blockages all the floors and stores that responded to the markets responding to customer reports and collaboration, and also rescue issues right now.
6:54So if you use two centers or replacement markets and placement of thirty-seven room feeding sewer money alone, all goodly well street and one uh checkboard the charity street using plate percent in concrete some sections would even see replaced in some areas with some around confined by your lines would also put it to pay for when these money was often good.
7:36The pipeline was actually worth it to the house toward the other way in case ten thousand dollars.
9:13Very good uh the uh data centers water usage and electrical usage and they also had a representative from the RC so it was it was very good meeting.
9:28Uh report ending in December 31st this year.
9:36Um after this because this is just taken at that day.
9:45So water sales for the month averages sixty-nine million gallons a day compared with the budget of seventy million gallons a day.
9:54Water sales would be a total big five seven point eight million.
10:03Operating income for the month uh totaled 1.7 million and fell short of the budget expectation by six hundred and thirty six thousand.
10:16Um I'm just gonna highlight the thing.
10:21Uh year-to-day uh spending on capital projects totaled 79.6 million due to um uh as of the date of the financial report, which many more coming in.
10:34So uh with the remaining CIP budget commitment of twelve point five million cash reserve for CIP spending totaled fifty-nine point eight million dollars at the end of December.
10:50Um recorded at the water authority totaled forty-one point five inches at the end of November.
10:59And compared with an average of fifty-two for the same period last year, which is about twenty percent decrease year over year.
11:11That costs you to have a lot more water sales, which is some reason we're not getting these water still.
11:20Um we had um three linear projects, the uh Marshall project widening from 241 to Palmy County, and the project on the national park over by the National Park Service, which is an imposter there.
11:47The contractor on that was unity construction, which is pretty well, they're they're a well-known entity.
11:55But they subbed out the paving to another company to a PC for paving or something.
12:02And it looks like they're it's gonna be a fight because water only started only took up payment on one lane, and the DOT is requiring them to repave both lanes and to do the curbing on both sides.
12:21So this this should be a very interesting deal here coming on.
12:26So they're supposed to start on that uh this Friday.
12:30So we'll see what happens.
12:36We had also three facilities and two design projects, and they're all on schedule.
12:43Any other questions?
13:10Um this evening I'll be doing the supplementals as well as the financials.
13:16Um I'll try to um identify the pages as I go along.
13:21So some of the um trucks found in the presentation may not necessarily be um in the um books, but then we'll um take it to the same information.
13:38So look at page one, uh looking at the Miag monthly uh versus year to date, separate 2025.
13:48I think costs were five percent over MIAG's projected budget, and the supplementals were fifty percent under budget, and full year the costs were under budget by one million dollars despite the supplemental by almost 17%.
14:07On phase two, looking at our internal budget, the total cost for December exceeded projections by 9.37%.
14:16Fiscal year to date, the total power costs are over budget by four million dollars.
14:211.1 million of that is supplemental shortfall.
14:25And even though the cost um, even with the cost increase overall financials are still favorable, I'll talk to that um later on when we get into our finances.
14:44So if you take a look at page two, I'm sorry, if you look at page three, the December pricing, looking at the gas price comparison for 2025 and 2026.
15:00The actuals for 2025 ended with um close to uh right at $4 per MMBTU.
15:06And they're starting off is um the updated projection costs are at $4.75 per MMBTU, which is almost five percent higher than it was budgeted, which we're anticipating that the gas prices um, especially for the month of January, which I'll get into momentarily um to be higher, and that's primarily due to the weather.
15:30So we got saw an increase there, and that's not necessarily gonna um spread throughout the rest of the year because you see it fall and kind of level out, and then um as the winter comes back in for the month of December start to kind of hike back up at the end of the year, we'll get monthly updates on that uh um as we go throughout the year for PA.
15:54So then moving on to the spot market comparison.
15:57These prices average about a dollar um for M BTU higher, 426 and um 427 uh per on each month, and so taking a look at where we are this morning, it was approximately um three dollars and twenty cents per mm BTU.
16:18Um this morning for today's project projected costs.
16:25And looking at page five, um as you know, uh most of Georgia and um country experienced um two consecutive weekends of um stream implement weather, and this chart just gives a um a um hourly projection of what the hourly um forecast of what those costs would have been um at each hour.
16:52The red dots indicate the night hour, so it shows a range from about 30 low 30s to um upwards of 780 dollars.
17:06Um per um megawatt hour for the sale price um over the course of this nine-day period.
17:18So it just gives you the wide range of where we are, um, put them off of January.
17:23We wouldn't see those um revenues from any sales of those come in until the next month.
17:30Um how the February billing and it'll be for the March payment as well as the March board meeting.
17:42And this particular um slide just kind of gives you an idea of um one of the days that we were looking at the plat activity on the 27th at 741 a.m.
17:55And markets are at the mid-500 range, and all of the available plants are running.
18:03One thing to note is that Pine View, which is our solar plant, is now in operations, and we're looking at a snapshot for the morning time frame, and we have three megawatts of investment or capacity in uh Pine View, and currently at that time it was at 0.046, which is the minimum amount to run to start up the plant.
18:30The reason for that is because it's in the morning time, we don't have as much sun.
18:35The next slide shows um Pine View or our solar at almost three megawatts, and that is at a time frame of 11.42 in the morning, so we're almost at midday where the sun is up, so we'll get the most use out of that particular plant.
18:56So just to kind of give you a little bit of background on how those um particular plants operate from a solar standpoint um versus how um some of the others operate a little bit differently based on the type of plant that they uh um resource that we're utilizing to generation for those two particular days.
19:22Um share was running economically about north of power or something like that.
19:30Is that extent on eight?
19:31Yeah, it's where we have 25 dollars per time as opposed to the higher amount.
19:37We couldn't control.
19:39Yes, so that was um due to commitment that we had, and then um we there was um one of the plants scheduled to go out, and so that was going to have to ramp it up in order for so it would be on in the time that we need it.
19:56So uh because of the coal plant has um it has an eight-hour runtime at the 28 hour runtime.
20:05And then during the winter storm we saw what the what the price was for the hour on January 27th, but it's usually um for the most part on ours.
20:18We have a lot of fixed costs cost running outside of the uh the combined cycle and uh and then the most accounts the gas plants the cost of gas and time cost by pulling up of their own costs while sort of realized gains during that time period.
20:38So um because we uh were able to um request in advance.
20:47Um we were able to get a lower pricing, so the market did exceed what our pricing was.
20:53I'm not exactly sure.
20:54Um it varied by hour, but yes, um the profitability on that exceeded.
21:01Um we didn't make profits on that exceeding uh what our costs were, and but um we won't be know exactly what the ones were until next week exceed the bill.
21:16Of course, we're gonna come in the world.
21:26Um cost of electricity, but because of excess electricity to provide electricity, uh just gave it away.
21:53Which day are you looking at the launch?
22:11So like market projects versus cost plus which would be five courtesy once it doesn't work.
22:19Yes, um, on this um particular slide, you'll see that the total load, which is our base load is at 107.
22:29And then the sales are at 70.
22:32And so what we have at excess at this point.
22:39Um at some point we will um have maxed out on our resources and we'll have to either find additional resources that go to the market.
22:49However, with the way that um the data center instructs, we do not lose money as cost plus.
22:58So we will always have our um expenses covered um in our base load is uh triggered first so that we're able to uh maintain that for all of our cities.
23:16Right, so taking a look at the NCP, which actually was the second highest that we um have seen uh in the five year time period.
23:30So we are um we're seeing more peaks, and that had to do with the weather and the spikes that we saw at those particular days.
23:38Our energy requirements are gradually increasing as well.
23:43So we are seeing that um continually rise.
23:47And then lastly take a look at our water purchases, because our water prices for um the month of December before we over to the new calendar year, but our um last month I indicated that we had one of the lowest months that we've had in the month of December.
24:05There was a um we were able to catch a uh error in the billing, and so it was sort of about twenty-three thousand uh t gallons, so that has been um corrected and added to the December bill, and so uh both the December and January are reflected with the actual question.
24:29Non-coincident peaks.
24:31What is that what's the term mean?
24:33Um particular time frame where their energy um where we have the highest request of energy in time or not necessarily full load actually for the scenarios.
25:07So we want to our financials.
25:12The graph on the screen um is going to reference pages one through three of your financials.
25:22So um our injector revenues are up for the month, and that's due to um 4.5 million dollar in developer contributions, and that is um in relation to the substation um purchase uh expenses towards the substation.
25:44And so that um I can make sure that everybody is fine that's a couple of people looking.
25:49We are um it's referencing the revenues and the P and L's.
25:56This is just a graphic of the next that you see in detail.
26:03So um so as a result of that, um, our income for operations are much higher than normal.
26:12So you'll see that uh for the month they're at 5.7 versus last year, same time of 1.5.
26:19Essentially, all of that is in reduced in the um substate substation revenue.
26:25We received it um in month of January.
26:29It's gonna be paid out this month, so you'll see that expenditures come to in next month's uh question.
26:44Without that um additional revenue now, are we in close to kind of where we were last year or a bit above and below?
26:52So we're expecting it to be expensive this month.
26:56So without that, we are uh pretty much in step with where we were last year.
27:02Also um the year to date, um, in just a moment, and you can kind of see that uh uh shortfall um in the fact that we are in our budget versus our actuals, and I'll go ahead and actually skip to that so that you can see so taking a look at the budget versus our actuals.
27:32Um we are for our um income from operations, we're pretty much in lapse up.
27:39Um but we are um over for our revenue versus last year, just slightly, and all of that has to do pretty much with our um distributor contributions.
27:54Our expenses are pretty much in line as well, so we uh we have budgeted additional revenue to as a user reserve that we haven't had to use.
28:05So the budget is slightly elevated uh because of that, but it has about three million dollars additional uh use of reserve that we hadn't have not had to tap into.
28:16We've been able to manage our uh revenues and expenditures without uh realizing that the only reason we put that extra reserve and almost allow us to do some additional capital because our reserves were uh fairly robust at this point, so it will allow us to produce some bigger projects in the building.
28:44And then lastly, um I have our current fiscal year today versus up for our year um fiscal year date, and our uh margins are hovering around about 46%, and other than that, pretty much um in line over lambster.
29:07Last slide I had that was our reserve, so our surplus is uh Mr.
29:12Bruton just mentioned um scale.
29:31Well the camera's report is a print.
29:37You know it goes up like it's going back to every year, page one and two, one or two, that's not pretty cool.
30:00It would come down to the city, but instead of us getting 13% of it, they're gonna take it to finance for the years to which we'll spend it easily you know your proportion is here.
30:15So some cities that own us fortunate like to have the money today, but that was a major decision, but that's a because of 14 years we can shorten for those of you that are new.
30:38We're not getting any of the volume, the generation companies, but we're not making the monthly money, which is a good same amount of money, and we're picking it.
30:54The cost, which is six years before we started getting out.
30:57Revenue with vocal took a lot longer to build.
31:03But what we're doing just see if you go through the budget process, we reserve some money to go to mitigate the cost.
31:16The one thing you mean VAG was the first the data center there, you know, there were a lot of scare, but the tax year Georgia did a good job of tracking the second.
31:44So this is straight down what B AG was, and it goes so we're basically it's got the line shield, those two one where we partner ship the dirt and the zoning does uh it's for it, but we're we're thirsty in the operation in the generation because we've been long for 48 years.
32:11That's uh everybody's different.
32:19We call power supply agreements, and we're every one of them, whether it's edge, vogue, wisely, um it used to be down, there wasn't data monrows, anything to do with that one.
32:35Which one did my wrong?
32:37City five and four seventy five.
32:42The biggest one in the country.
32:50But we're just a little part of that, but the one it also been a while.
32:58We torn down that coal plant, you know, we put a lot of money into it.
33:04The most we could build in the next, we got to talk about it if we don't want to make them with a big 600 megawatts.
33:22We can only use 40 percent of them.
33:26So we probably have got all the data centers that we could possibly do, but two good things have come.
33:36We learned a lot from turning down income.
33:40They come and come to us, they try to discount the price, but volume 30 or 40-year-old contract, you need to get a premium out of this because we we didn't get any bit time.
33:56What what came in the suggestion would sell and them with their committee didn't do it, excuse me, their town hall brought up the uh it just thing we did.
34:14We we had probably the best contract in the state back, it's the model where it's basically an hourly rate.
34:22So if it goes up and down, works out good.
34:25That's a help, you know.
34:28The data center in Marietta used to be two and a half megawatts.
34:34You know, now these ones would be 137 years out, we're not gonna 150 like the wheel, but they're still years out.
34:43They're gonna come from what we ought because we're gonna pick up 32 megawatts for both vocal three and vocal fours.
34:52We're not having to create any generation for what we have, which is where the cost, you know.
35:06But that's uh we were the only neck of this built.
35:10That's not a reason we have a lucky we don't need nuclear fashion built the last 40 year old.
35:16But the second given and also the other thing we act down they invited to pay up for they paid over 30 million dollars for the one in college for stop revenue, which it costs donated capital, so we we don't have to recover that to our costume and then I mean for a substation that type thing in it.
35:42What they proved yesterday we've been on hold, we have the again.
35:46We just we're part of that family.
35:49The to study the transmission lines, we're in a good area.
35:53There's a lot of this over.
36:09So any interested customer would have to pay that first to see if we could freeze it, it could have to do.
36:15But then again, that's on their data.
36:20So we're we're gonna check it out to be profitable because we just don't have them.
36:26We're not everything we're shouting, we should have been thankful.
36:42That's fewer development study.
36:4325,000 fifty and a much higher amount.
36:49Um I think the 25, that was for just uh addition to the current to an existing project.
36:55They 50 was for just below 50 megawatts, and the 175s was above 50 megawatts, you know, something like that.
37:02175 would probably be if you get the number what would probably over 200 megawatts here.
37:11Yeah, so a large amount of problems, a large amount of megawatts for the service why.
37:17And then and also there's some areas of the state where they don't you can imagine how much is a south full to the airport, and the number of homes we just have here besides businesses in Cobb County.
37:32It's especially all Fortune, so this being good estimate this where I shop out lift, but Cabrietta Water is one of the best in the state, and it started in 1950.
37:50They have always provided for Metropolitan, especially north side of the county.
37:56I mean it's bad from Atlanta, so we when they put it in cover, Marietta probably had the more water in Cobb County in 1950.
38:03That's why we're we're still on it.
38:06So we're we're doing good there.
38:09The other thing we're missing Brown talked about Baby is not officially open yet, but it's more commercial, and it's not a little bit we had as they go, so we're uh 131 was when they show me through, but it hadn't got the final thing, but just up and running and they're very, very happy with it.
38:27So we're gonna be glad we had but invested in solar.
38:33And I'm just trying to just look a little applicant like what I am for the running habit.
38:49I won't computer it was something because I know we use a lot of acronyms.
38:53But one of the things I was trying to point out is that the IT department has been fantastic job in innovating um new technology and then FDR and FDIR stands for fault detects and isolation restoration and 50 switches have done installed and the grant was 400 and this could be completed and when these switches do to correct me if I'm wrong, we route if there's an out, it's figuring out a way to reroute the electricity to minimize the outing so that our customers can come back online in the in a much faster period of time.
39:33So we want to clarify that because I'm still the number of people that are out, but it doesn't reduce the number of addicts.
40:00Does it require that full feeders out of it because I know what you want during the ice to work?
40:14So does the FKIR, does it you said detects feeders that are out, but we had a part parts of three different ones, not full feeders, which is kind of why the system didn't put out the notification saying we had an outage because it didn't read it as a feeder.
40:31So will the FDIR detect that move those people, or does it need to fall like 104 to be out?
40:46If there's an out isolated story and minimize.
41:00Okay, yes, I had uh just a couple of things.
41:07The uh first item was the uh part of our strategic plan and deliverables and uh the accomplishments that we had for years that they're listed there in the boards and accomplishments that we received.
41:19And then the second item was the uh board governing policies, there's one space to that where we inserted the mission statement to the uh board purpose and the motion was to change the title for board purpose to board mission, and we inserted the mission statement there, and the third item was the uh strategic plan, and it was the change that care program that's really like we've done our best of what we do is bring employees to make the board with the mindset recognition they receive, motion they receive, or if you're a new employees, for the board to meet employees and the employees put a second board number two questions.
42:12Um the board policy one, so it was there were no deletions, but just the addition of the conditional statement and the retitling.
42:29The title file should be board purpose and organizational mission.
42:34Um this is the title just for future recommendation.
42:39Um the same questions when you had I didn't attend the meeting today.
42:44That first statement that says the board's principal purpose that's still in there.
42:50You just added that additional language.
42:57Uh file questions on the the care program.
43:01Um does that still exist or is that going to go away after this?
43:10Non existent, so we deleted that information today.
43:14What we're going to do once we cover it.
43:48Um I know if item 2026 report.
43:54Do we make a motion on this item or do we need to add a motion to this to the agenda relating to the BLW approval to BLW actions from today?
44:04So it's not on the one-side of the move something forward to win state.
44:19Um right now we just have an item that has BLW reports, which says it's uh council member Campbell gave the report.
44:27Right, but we don't have an item on the Wednesday agenda related to the actions of the BLW approval of the actions.
44:34So we need to add that item to the Wednesday agenda.
44:37So is it more appropriate to make a motion from this item 2026?
44:43Or would it be more appropriate to suspend the rules and add an item to this agenda to pass forward to us?
44:56Change the camp or you would change the wording with that items.
45:00You would change the wording with that item.
45:04So that's all I was asking us to make sure we call the pathway process.
45:16So uh make a loose and too.
45:39All right for consent.
45:40It's no objection to consent.
45:43All right, there we're board 5 minutes.
46:02Before the next item, I do want to know that by four as a disclosures to apply to the six items on detours of contract.
46:18Um you're doing it against the book, and I will take it.
46:27I can't get a bike in the box, but I know we see with this contract.
46:32I've generally set down whatever it will be.
47:00We have the things like the board.
47:03We can't just set it tourists.
47:14Well, the committee.
47:38I make a motion to approve the amendment.
47:43Well, the Senate present funding agreement to add current CL tag.
47:57Motion carries and 2000 coronavirus.
48:17Wait, Lanta said this is related specifically to the Atlanta Street project proposal.
48:24Um just disclose that it's members of my family and it's disappointed by members of the family owned the property on that along that section of road.
48:32So I'll be voted on that section.
48:46Um you should have two proposals in front of you.
48:50First one is the lack of better definition.
48:55We'll call it the parks bond.
49:00So it has removed the parks projects, except for the maintenance count from there.
49:10Uh if we move the Whitlock Avenue project, and it's added the Orange Street Street Cape project.
49:15Um with that, everything is balanced.
49:35From Cobb County, there will be no joint projects with Cobb County this time.
49:41So the joint projects we have used at the bottom there, only they have to be quantity to them, it'll have to be moved up onto the list and we'll have to figure out a way to balance the budget, or then we'll go to two projects.
50:21So we will need a funding mechanism if we want to move forward with any other improvements.
50:49We won't be there won't be any funding there to do anything.
50:53So I got added back.
50:57We can I can add that back.
50:58Matter of fact, I have an alternative there that shows that I just need to put in, put some money there.
51:04It doesn't have to be a large amount right now.
51:06Take that from another project all out, so it wouldn't be a major thing right now.
51:18We were repayment quite long after new maintenance and for renting something along that line.
51:22So it's not reference to it.
51:33We have to wait back to improve the area.
51:43And and those joint projects were uh except the Merritt Road Park, um the other two sidewalk projects were they were already on our tier two list, and when we started looking for possible joint projects with the county, I moved them up there just to try to figure out some joint projects with the county.
52:02So they were already on the tier two list initially, so they could go back on tier two, but we don't get to tier two every tier one is done.
52:14And if there's funding left to do anything, we add this right.
52:25There are two different tests here.
52:27One is one without parks and one is one list to choose possible grant grant funding.
52:33Yes, I haven't got to the other list.
52:35So um the other list that you have, uh Mr.
52:39Goldsame only to go back and look at possibly funding some of these projects, keeping everything on the list, all the parks, all the other projects, including adding more extreme uh projects.
52:51Um look at possible what can be funded about potential grants to try to balance this thing out.
52:59So you see that middle uh column there that shows what I think we could get grant money for those specific projects and still balance the budget.
53:09Um that is a potential list for you to look at as well.
53:13Um it just depends on which way you would like to go with the parks balanced either way.
53:27Which one's what we're doing for the except for the Cobb County with the joint project with the county and you're like to give it some direction on what you would like to do with those.
53:51Of course, there wouldn't seem combined project like that to what uh since Cobb County was that one million output.
54:05That one million is based on this current splots.
54:08That's what the county had put up before.
54:10Um since that re steps in the county like last week to figure out if I hadn't heard from their joint projects, or we're gonna do joint projects if so, what's the dollar amount?
54:21And they wrote back and said, no, we're not doing joint projects.
54:26So it takes them off the list.
54:28But if they were that one million would be the one million would be what the county would be putting up, and then we would put up another time that we would do that.
54:40Similar to what we're doing in the streets lost joint projects.
54:49That bottom number is not figured into the battle set top.
55:11Is there a former tier two projects?
55:14Uh no, it was not only another tier two list that came into play uh primarily when that new development was being built, has been built through the corner of St.
55:24New town home development.
55:25Uh so when that was kind of going through, we had some requests to extend the sidewalk on out.
55:30And that road is kind of in and out with Cobb County and us.
55:34And so uh felt like that'd be a good joint project, but we did put it on our list, to look at, but that is going to be a somewhat expensive project due to the no retaining walls.
55:48We're gonna have to build, we're just gonna have to be built.
55:50Uh no matter which side of the road you're going.
55:52So um this reason it's a million dollar beach, so it's not going to be cheap to do that.
56:10But primarily it came from some of the other restaurants in the area.
56:23This is the bottom line of the uh county joint project on the Cobb County joint project, same drop sidewalk.
56:30Sand joint projects may have good things either off or in tier two.
56:38Correct, it'll either go to tier two, or if you want to move them up to the main list, it can be, but we're gonna have to figure out a way to rebalance for it if you move them up.
57:04In a large street, streetscapes, are we committed to exactly what it says on here?
57:10If we say widening roadway, would have ended up you don't need them to widen the roadway or nothing to happen, etc.
57:19I mean, I'm not saying do nothing, I'm just saying are we committing to doing all these things if we itemize them here versus setting R3 streets gates to include possibly?
57:32The way the way the wall reads, unless it becomes engineering, it's pretty much we're still so we've looked at that, and we've looked at that just to get not several different times.
57:46It's going to require some type of road widening.
57:49Uh whether or not we can accomplish when I say road widening, whether or not that means widening within the existing route of way, or we're gonna have to require route of way to widen the road, we don't know yet to be fit one more detail.
58:03We'll require widening some length of travel through in some form of fashion.
58:20Uh was somewhat conservative in these numbers.
58:28That's conserving the perfect.
58:33What was the width currently of Lord Street?
58:36The lanes of travel?
58:38Uh right, ten feet with that.
58:42So we're talking currently the same as about twenty feet.
58:46In some areas that's 19, 19 and a half feet, so it's if you drop a regular size pickup truck and you need another pickup truck coming through there, you almost touch mirrors.
59:03Speeds are initially.
59:06Um is it just two to twenty-five already?
59:09It's twenty-five, and it has about three or four speed tables on it.
59:15Yeah, we can make some wet lines, yeah.
59:17That does I'll leave that up to Mary Castles.
59:30I would do whatever Mary Castle would like on the one way.
59:35But the sidewalks are supposed to be four feet.
59:38That's what that was the call.
59:42So we'll go one side.
59:50So our cubicle sidewalk's five feet, right?
59:57So we could try to build that to five feet.
1:00:00So the thinking is again.
1:00:08If we don't acquire any route of way, try to work within the existing route of way.
1:00:14I'm not talking construction instruments at this point, just talking about roadway.
1:00:18One sidewalk will have to go away.
1:00:23That will give us enough room to widen the lane to travel and build size sidewalk on one side or the other.
1:00:38Pluses and minuses is uh utilities for tetting walls, things all we have once.
1:00:45Just as a heads up on that.
1:00:52We definitely want to minimize the number of walls that we do.
1:01:01This is not on the current description for Lawrence Street.
1:01:04It does specify which side of the street.
1:01:10If you're saying you can't figure that out, that would be definitely going to be a lot of just that.
1:01:16Like there's a lot of descriptions in here to the part where we just went out.
1:01:19We know the final.
1:01:29So the rest of the description.
1:01:32And there's just a project, but that description was listened for us to get an idea of what we'd be looking at.
1:01:37So maybe that'd be the final complete project, but that's pretty much pretty good.
1:01:51Try to get a two-foot people saying we'll have a two-foot.
1:01:56We don't even try to call it beauty switch anymore, but the two foot gap between sidewalk and the curb just to have people a little bit of safe zone that walk in through there.
1:02:04So then right at traffic.
1:02:11Um it's kind of my sheriff's gravel driveways, road lightning spot.
1:02:17I'd encourage council to consider keeping the lane narrow and slow speeds, natural, and maybe even expand more so that you can have a larger landscape strip and plant trees to create buffer from the pedestrians for the motorists.
1:02:35But someone piece.
1:03:10That's details on here primarily for your main things that you understand.
1:03:16I'm supposed to have flexibility the best thing and not wet on paper record.
1:03:21Because that may not be it when we do the engineering.
1:03:48Not for Lawrence Street, other than very, very high level conceptual.
1:03:53Yes, we know we know we're gonna do something with the road, the lane width.
1:03:58We do need to widen them just a little bit because they are too narrow at this point to traffic.
1:04:03Um we know we're gonna go redo the sidewalks.
1:04:08Uh any other details from that at this point.
1:04:12But then for estimation purposes, it's hard to drill down to when you get rid of developments.
1:04:24Uh it it would be uh for the new projects.
1:04:28Uh Cherokee Street, uh, you guys have already uh looked at the concept for Cherokee Street.
1:04:34Um North Marietta, you have not yet, because we've we're still going back and forth with two docs.
1:04:41Well that one's uh you will have an opportunity to see that one, but the two new projects yes, you will you wouldn't have that opportunity.
1:05:18And we've got some tools and then all the things could be all that's not so theory or didn't it's like don't break it.
1:05:42We did not take the trees to go.
1:05:45Property owner, new property owners.
1:06:09Not like the specific project looking at the overall lists, the two options curved out in front of us.
1:06:17I think that's my preference look to proposing list that has more of those projects on there and to reduce the amount for those grants, the conservatively estimated grants from what market set.
1:06:29Um, this is a backup on stuff that parks they pretty slow time to figure out what we do in case we do choose to park spot in the future or something along those lines.
1:06:41Um we can figure out how to properly handle that with a sloss probably would probably be uh guess probably figure out if we have that parks one would pass front or something like that.
1:06:52If we did ask them, if we did have a park spot in the past, for example, then put it in some of the projects on the sloss at that point you would figure it out on the sloss instead.
1:07:04It could be in that situation, yes, it would be zero because it would be deemed in feasible at that point you'd find even another source.
1:07:11Um yeah, they could be needed indeed in feasible that money could be reallocated to either one existing tier one projects, or you could bring up a tier two project and find it at that due to the better idea to keep it and keep those projects around the list but have to reduce amounts from what we expect in the grants, since that's already gotten the balance and you see the figure out funding what we're doing with the paragraph comp part of it.
1:07:41And they have reasonable.
1:07:44I can give you a little bit more of the timelines already.
1:07:47Um several phone calls, which we don't have had some conversations.
1:07:52So we have to have this list done so I can give it to the county as soon as you know.
1:08:00We have a public input meeting uh with Cobb County on March the fifth.
1:08:04That will be the public input meeting, not a public hearing.
1:08:08Uh some people say we're having a public hearing on March 5th.
1:08:14Uh people will come in, they'll be able to talk to us.
1:08:17Uh saying Cobb County because Cobb County will be there as well.
1:08:19I'm at the Civic Center.
1:08:21Um, we will have our projects kind of board and so I'll level videos and descriptions, whatever this body agrees suit, and then we'll we have to talk to them and answer the questions.
1:08:37I plan on having at least two more of those public input meetings late March, sometime mid-April here in the council chambers.
1:08:46Um April committee meetings, uh bring this back on the agenda with all any feedback that we have gathered, public input we've gathered, present that back to this body can decide that at that point, we'll do anything.
1:09:05Changes you'll tweak whatever you want to do with it.
1:09:11You would take your final one of your final votes on the final list in the type of recommend that too.
1:09:20That would be a public hearing.
1:09:26We would have another meet at the June council meeting would be the final vote um public hearing that would be adopting the intergovernmental agreement with Cobb County.
1:09:38Um you've got a couple more bites at the Apple here to tweak and do some adjusting.
1:09:44So if you know you need to think about the Merritt Road thing, and then we need to come back and put that in and do something else with that later on.
1:09:51You you've got some time um to do that.
1:09:55So don't want to make that decision right now.
1:10:02So we're gonna work two miles and up award from the code freaking.
1:10:11Oh to fair ground.
1:10:12It's just a little over a mile.
1:10:15It's about one point two, I think.
1:10:18I think that's an ordered schedule.
1:10:28That would modify it.
1:10:42We I've had some initial conversations.
1:10:46Um that wouldn't even be uh dropping in the bucket to do the underground.
1:10:53It would not matter.
1:11:01So I mean they could start the process with underground.
1:11:07But it it would be to do the full length to underground service or services through there.
1:11:14Um I don't have that number in front of me, but if I remember correctly, it was somewhere around 15 to 18 million dollars just in the underground electric services and that street was an extravagant amount of money to do that.
1:11:28So we're gonna say they couldn't do it.
1:11:31I mean, I think they would want they can only take that a little bit pieces through there.
1:11:35So my question is about the resonance on uh street, but somebody probably can put meetings on to have the choices or have already remained this case, and then this is what it's going to be.
1:11:57It would be on the list, and then they can give me feedback or give us feedback as to call it and give us some more detail as well.
1:12:04Well, that's kind of what we're planning.
1:12:05Well, then only tell me uh we're adamant we won't sidewalk on both sides of it.
1:12:11Uh or we want a medium down in the middle of it, or you know, stuff like that.
1:12:16And so that would be the type of feedback that I would bring back to this body and say, well, this is the feedback we got.
1:12:22This is going to run the cost up, whatever the dollar minute is.
1:12:27What is the print?
1:12:30It's a part of what is the band on their first input.
1:12:34Parts of the field.
1:12:53They had posters up, and it was sort of a you know, truth roll adventures you want to do it to spend that being the same sort of style looking.
1:12:59It's not going to be all the adds how cops doing all of theirs and then um I don't know that I'll have this uh nice detail is what they had because I spent a little bit more money on theirs, but I will have boards have um at least broken up by category uh that we have here uh with the projects listed and as much pictures and details as I can get together, and so they can we can talk about each one of them so they can just wrong with it.
1:13:45I guess my notion is what we can do to get this for it because I guess we do have one more opportunity because at that committee's not to keep waiting tonight, but at the committees at the committee, but you'll have one at the May council meeting and then the June council meeting.
1:14:06Yeah, I'm talking for the first from the outright.
1:14:10So if you give me direction as to which one of these grants or parts bond that you would prefer if you have that decision tonight, then I can clean it up far as that in the woodlock one in and have that clean document for you at Wednesday night.
1:14:30If you're ready to make that decision today.
1:14:36Explain what you mean by grants versus the middle column in there that says proposed grants.
1:14:56It still has the parts.
1:14:57Still has the parts.
1:15:03That's the opposite.
1:15:12If we do teach the parts of the passes, we're in that two.
1:15:20And then that allows us to reallocate those other funds to get to those other projects.
1:15:25Or if we can't put everything on two.
1:15:28So it gives us I think it gives us more options on that.
1:15:32Always have a option is the best way.
1:15:51I want to take a look and see what we're doing first.
1:16:25Okay, that's right.
1:16:26I have no remote question.
1:16:31Do we need to make that expensive?
1:16:39Just move the channel.
1:16:42Point uh point from the charter per section 2.9 that review session.
1:16:49Um says this one hour before.
1:16:53So I'm not sure it can be moved toward that a little bit.
1:17:00Yeah, I think this is the same.
1:17:01I'm sure you're um there's any regular special goal.
1:17:12Special call probably better because it first sent you says council shall hold a monthly agenda review session, one hour proceeding to regular ones, so by construction, I think that means whatever.
1:17:53We need to have a point of point of inquiry here.
1:17:58Would there need to be a motion to move this forward to a special poll at five o'clock then?
1:18:05Or would it just be on the call on the poll?
1:18:16I have to partially say, so I can't make your second point.
1:18:42And by clarification, that is to discuss both options.
1:18:46We have the windlock addition.
1:19:41We'll be ready on Wednesday.
1:19:55Would I do that with the park about the pressure USI awards?
1:20:00USI award is extra points.
1:20:18We have two biggest schedules.
1:20:19We can go to Paris.
1:20:22We have two cents of bench for regular meeting for Gangway the 14th and the special meeting.
1:20:42Regular check shit.
1:20:44And as presented for the special name.
1:21:39One related to lot width on each property and also a lot size on each property as well.
1:21:45The properties were initially platted as two separate properties back in the 50s, but over the course of time they were combined even before they were annexed into the service of time in the mid-1980s.
1:21:56And the only other uh thing I will point out is there's uh some good reference in the SAV report to some stream impacts that would be on the undeveloped piece of property.
1:22:04Um and just to make a clear that that would be a separate process should this rezoning uh move forward, then at the time of development, they would come forward to public to the public works and they would come through as from the street buffer mirrorance process with the uh that would be resolved that way.
1:22:21So if it happened to be approved, if not to approve the street buffer party thing, there should that be a separate process entirely.
1:22:28This very clear that that's that would have to come through something.
1:22:38Smaller than what we do for infill.
1:22:43I'm not sh I'm not sure if it's smaller than what we do from infill.
1:22:47It's it's a character with the rest of the neighborhood as a position.
1:22:57Any other comments for tonight?
1:23:06Hey, we have three an hour climate, would you like to ship like a little bit?
1:23:35I probably all know that.
1:23:48Yeah, this was left off of consent at the time of the Janison Legislative Committee.
1:23:52Uh, because Chairman Goldstein wanted to see some additional information related to the second regulations of the Department of Public Health.
1:23:59So staff is able to look into their regulation uh manual uh and determine uh specifically related to the size of property for which they will allow septic for those serviced by public water, and those would be about a half acre, which is consistent with the language that we have had historically, and those certified well would be one acre, uh, which we don't have a lot of in the city, but there may be still a few properties that that would be delicate to do.
1:24:24That is how the department of public health would regulate symptoms.
1:24:37It's great in line with decent, I'm sorry, half an acre if it has city water.
1:24:49You can have a second.
1:24:51But if it's a well water, it would be one acre.
1:24:56That's that's similar to what we already had in there essentially.
1:25:02We had a half acre term requirement with a park.
1:25:06If it's being served with the city water as it's being served in city water, yes, that's correct.
1:25:18The only thing I think about replaced on that discovery is keeping line those regulations.
1:25:22And if they start if you see it, if you see a major shift in it, it would probably be a good idea to bring that back up to council so that we're okay with the ship.
1:25:39With that with that, I'll all okay with the going on consent.
1:25:50I don't want to have time to develop shift.
1:26:58So we'd love to work it out.
1:27:09I think we're what your plans are for judge.
1:27:12And I'd like to ask Mail and the clerk.
1:27:22Should Cheryl have been on that side of the bridge.
1:27:25She would be part of the discussion.
1:27:28And it's perfectly fine.
1:27:30Um my purpose for coming, one to thanking for the reappointment, and also to thank you for the foresight in bringing up um the addition of a prosecutor.
1:27:41Um typically for in my profession at this time of the year, we usually get kind of a report about the state of the judiciary.
1:27:50And I wasn't going to get into any details, but I did want to indicate to um you that um we had a substantial increase.
1:28:00Um there's been a 47% 45% increase in the number of citations we've had uh from 24 to 25.
1:28:09Um there's also um in the current situation, um, we do get tickets from um the uh state patrol.
1:28:18Um in the past, we haven't gotten a lot of tickets from the state patrol, but the state court has now um taken a new position.
1:28:27Um they are requiring their officers to designate those tickets to the municipalities that those violations occurring before the state troopers used to just put down Cobb County.
1:28:43They didn't know where the jurisdiction limits were.
1:28:46Now the state court is saying we're not going to take everything in Cobb County.
1:28:51We want you to specifically send those citations to municipality that they occur in.
1:29:00Well, um what that means, the prior year, all year, we only got 638 citations from state control.
1:29:22So if this continues, we're looking at a substantial increase in the number of citations we're going to be dealing with on a daily day basis.
1:29:31But currently, we uh cap our uh plane random calendars roughly somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 positions.
1:29:41That's 110 positions to deal with in three and a half hours of time.
1:29:47Um with our solicitor, if he's got to deal with the number of attorney cases, and it's taking a good bit of time.
1:29:55Right now, our um citizens are sitting in their courtrooms looking for four and a half hours when the cases are being dealt with.
1:30:03And in addition, we're sending cases out five months, which is absolutely an exception.
1:30:10So I thank you very much for the uh consideration within the prosecutor.
1:30:15Um we do intend to increase the number of cases we can use.
1:30:22Calendar as a result of that, and uh we have several other options that we didn't have to do uh discuss with anyone's industry, so we just wanted to getting that uh update and also um to be here to request anything.
1:30:49I know I used to say it as a state court judge that never should be.
1:31:26We don't have any of those science price and go with business license.
1:31:38A lot more cases that come in to school most in this fact.
1:31:42Yeah, I will say the school bus calendar is extended.
1:31:45Um last session, I think we had probably closer to two because of the increase of the file uh uh you know, regulations require a one thousand dollar in fine testing school bus.
1:32:02Everybody is from the water and to contest those.
1:32:06So uh we are literally reviewing uh you know, it was one of those cases almost on a day-to-day basis uh we have a problem.
1:32:27Does the prosecutor have to start to set five correctly?
1:32:31There is a big question about um, but technically we've taken the position that no, we do not have discretion.
1:32:37Um the only thing I've done um in uh cases where we have situation where there's just no way we're going to get I've uh instituted a policy allowing people to take the main service uh as well as we need to do.
1:32:54Clearly cannot afford it, and we're gonna be able to do this.
1:33:02So lot it does that case introduced into uh community service.
1:33:14So how is that regulated?
1:33:17How is that we have this question?
1:33:22Yeah, we have a policy that um they have to come in with the the letters on the letter head of the organization that they did it to check to make sure it is a valid nonprofit organization that's currently um uh recognized by the Secretary of State, and then we even typically call um that entity to make sure that uh it's a valid, which we do get false uh false documents, but we're gonna do follow up on all of those.
1:34:01With the increased tickets for the state control.
1:34:05And imagine, like you said, so they don't show, so maybe a lot is we can't even end up I don't know.
1:34:13Maybe this ticket will get off without with the same yeah.
1:34:17Do they get any more revenue if that's not coming to us?
1:34:20We do, we will get more revenue.
1:34:22Um normally if there's an issue with uh the uh state co-host general might try to negotiate a resolution that's still results in revenue, um, but at the same time.
1:34:56Uh built it to this can't pay how to do it.
1:35:00negotiate the resolution that's the result revenue um but at the same time individual depending upon what the indications can't pay how to just put them on the oath last and don't have to do it too much for a lot of the times they can't just putting them under oath if it did if something can have something kind of player that shows they applied under oath they could be held a contempt of court then possibly suggest oh it's under in a court of law and possible false swearing charge it would be a perjury charge which is felony and fence um would be tabled and so we had uh recording the what was said misdemeanor to have been not it's not questions or concerns you do know that there was some concern about some of the good enforcement cases um I did just want to address that briefly um just to make sure everyone understands that um when you get told the case might be nine months old that's not nine months of sitting in our court the um code enforcement um they went through and looked at all these um the typical time frame uh for code enforcement to have a citation just within their department is three point seven the typical um time frame for us to have it in in the courtroom uh that the uh four point three months and this one is the week we need to be supplyed um primary objective has always been to uh compliance was the send an out the door compliance we're right back to judge reputation for the whole for the impairment we have an excellent and we are continuing to improve on the everything we do with the civil prior to see in your medical court structure judge judge oh strength can do that um you should have it in your package contracts compensation that we're gonna say questions did the motion correctly did motions yes you've already got that with something from the back of one there you had your uh dollar amounts which they're indexed motions which we act as far as the dollar amounts for every one of them um going down to looking at just the matter of form when you get all the way to the next page on the um oh one settings and compensation plus water management we usually don't we usually list the compensation on the motion and it's act and don't think where would have been that one we just got mostly true general manager um polls compensation retroact at the January first show that on the motion actually got a tax they have an option where you're probably contract um no actually he doesn't have a contract on that some object some of the yes sir and so we've got uh contracts tax also um that are as part of that package and uh so the ones that have contracts listed so everyone has a contract except for Mr Wall and then there's ordinances also to the package for the prosecuting attorney judge the assistant judges can also be associated judges so we don't talk through the motions which I've seen the ones that have contracts they have an additional con approving the contract language as well for the judge and the prosecuting attorney has the contract the motion does not be so the most of the detail need to say that it's fixing compensation
1:40:00I've seen the ones that have contracts, they have the additional con approving the contract language as well for the judge and the prosecuting attorney.
1:40:18So the most of the detox need to say that it's fixing compensation.
1:40:24Oh man, I can't go to the tax.
1:40:28Yeah, you could apparently it's both ordinance and uh contract for this.
1:40:38We won't change the council.
1:40:50Actually, there's our motion to approve the force from which of the short four judge.
1:40:58The chief judge RT work, retroactive team, can read the first and the company contract.
1:41:05Actually, this was a joint on the agenda.
1:41:08All we need is take and tent.
1:41:10And this would just be put on to our with the with the contracting for what's the negative.
1:41:25I'm saying yes to consent.
1:41:31What I do believe we're still working on from zero to 2026 0169 before the chief assistant prosecuting attorney.
1:41:47We would like to discuss that in the second session as we're putting overwhelming.
1:41:55But added that old consent.
1:42:18Next item will be tricky paid drive your counter is anymore.
1:42:31Oh, it's not a good thing.
1:42:45And the next story items are all consent.
1:42:56Uh we don't have any new information.
1:42:58Um notices have been mailed out, so we'll be prepared for the public hearing.
1:43:26You haven't heard anything back on back from any back.
1:43:49So actually, for this item and the next two items that follow it, those mission will be public hearings, and so we will update the agenda that they'll be labeled as such.
1:43:57Well, they'd be public hearing this.
1:44:02And so for this one, uh Lamar advertising is looking to convert the existing two faces of a uh of a typical regular billboard into digital billboard.
1:44:12And so the city has a fairly uh lengthy regulatory section related to that.
1:44:16Um requires that for every one digital face that's added, four have to be taken away.
1:44:23And so in this case there are two being requested, so that would be eight needed to be uh eight existing billboard panels that would need to be taken away in order to accommodate that.
1:44:33And there's a number of provisions related to that.
1:44:35One of uh those is that the one of the ones counted to be removed cannot be counted if it was part of a agreement to be removed.
1:44:44So an example would be if there was a uh unit zoning or some type of variant situation in which they uh needed to take down the billboard, that would not count as one of the replacement billboards.
1:44:55And so has proposed six billboards that they're putting forward.
1:45:00Um they are not existing today, they have already been taken down, uh but they've been taken down in the past two to three years.
1:45:05And so it comes to a matter of interpretation of an existing versus um recently existing and articulate that.
1:45:13Um staff has identified that two out of the six of those billboard panels were taken down as a result of a variant of action in 2016.
1:45:21Um and so you know, for that reason it would not qualify in the state regulations that's a count towards that digital panel.
1:45:29Um and so with that, uh, they do have four that they're proposing if council chooses to accept the recently removed billboards as existing billboards for you, which would allow one digital face to be changed on the side, a lot of powers for replace.
1:45:45Um with that, because it is closing the regulation allows to residential property that is the main thing that is coming on Wednesday.
1:45:56If you have any questions, uh please uh please do ask me to answer that.
1:46:10Not quite on the standard, but does that work?
1:46:15So have no more than this one page.
1:46:28They like to modify this existing billboard, uh they would lower the height in order to control with the regulations for digital billboard height, and they would like to switch out the panels, which are just you know static regular panels currently and exchange them for digital panels.
1:46:43And um, and what I was articulating about the exchange of four billboards for one digital panel is what our code describes.
1:46:50Um that is what it takes in order to add a new digital research panels.
1:46:58Sure, yeah, absolutely.
1:46:59So in this case it's one billboard, but there are two panels because there's one facing one direction and the other facing our relationship actually.
1:47:07And so um, if they have four to exchange, for example, that would allow them to make one into a digital billboard, but would not allow them to do both.
1:47:16You would need eight total to exchange, that's correct.
1:47:27But Daniel, six of those eight have already been correct.
1:47:33Yeah, all of the ones that they are proposing to count have already been removed.
1:47:38They they have proposed that there be a separate billboard with two panels can remove that they would be willing to remove as a part of this exchange as well, but the six that they have formally proposed to staff, those have been removed historic last couple of months.
1:47:54Two of those six were based off of a resign.
1:48:01Regardless, they can't be counted for the code or the code, that's correct.
1:48:06The other the other four panels have been removed.
1:48:10Subject interpretation is clear.
1:48:14Why were that on the floor removed?
1:48:20So demode for new QT and 41 uh parkway?
1:48:25Accommodate development.
1:48:27And then demode by KSU forward budget car rental from the one 1250 South Paris Parkway.
1:48:34Yeah, that was in the South Western Quadrant and South Marina Parkway.
1:48:38There was the one there where currently there's really some gravel and there's this improvements that have been made on that side.
1:48:44KSU can be required that that would be so a different government entity required it to be removed.
1:48:52How does that one count towards it?
1:48:54Possibly how could that possibly count towards it?
1:48:58I think it's the term agreement.
1:49:00Uh we need to look at specific code language, but in particular agreement is contemplating some type of zoning action as opposed to directing from KSU different.
1:49:31So if you say one already exists.
1:50:00And does it doesn't have to be answered by but would like an answer by Wednesday?
1:50:04What we have the line we've identified the language that deals with this.
1:50:10And the black are opinion is to whether previously removed bellboards count towards this or not.
1:50:18Oh yeah, that Wednesday night, but it will depend on the facts that have presented to you.
1:50:28And are those a test, or will that be exactly when is the night?
1:50:50Yeah, uh I have a few questions for that.
1:51:12There could be many different reasons why suddenly got removed.
1:51:33Oh, they just removed it without any action by the government.
1:51:45Got rid of the other things in the multiproperty government.
1:51:50So we do have a staff report that two that were removed as a part of a government agreement.
1:51:56We have the variance case listed.
1:51:57Um that was considered.
1:51:58So it was considered back in 2016.
1:52:01Um according to our records, the billboard wasn't actually removed until 2020, 2022, 2023 time for now despite it being required to be removed by the end of 2016.
1:52:24And uh the residential is close to area to Ancock County, Jiscomb County, just out one room.
1:52:33Uh my both City of Maria.
1:52:37City of Mary Edit.
1:52:38Yeah, it's a multifamily complex behind the commercial building that occupies the site, the storage building.
1:52:44Okay, you know, that's what we were talking about right there.
1:53:03I actually think we have six, seven, five powder spring seat.
1:53:07Next up, and I'll speak to that very quickly.
1:53:09Um so that is another variance.
1:53:11Once again, it will be a public hearing that's the corner.
1:53:15Um so this uh is a case in which it's a piece of property a little over an acre.
1:53:20Um that uh is a history of occupying auto-oriented uses that's been vacant for quite some time as far as the occupancy of the business there.
1:53:30There are two existing fairly dilapidated buildings looks like the owner would like to come in and use this for a commercial landscaping business, so at least the property for that purpose.
1:53:39Uh and as a result, that triggers six different variants that are coming before you'll be coming for you on Wednesday night.
1:53:46So the first one is to allow a commercial landscaper within 200 feet of residential property.
1:53:50The property is adjacent to properties, both stone to PRDSF, which were pretty often dangerous circle, not yet developed, and then there's an existing multi-failing property that is also adjacent to this in the back.
1:54:03Uh, they're also seeking to waive compliance with all of the overlay uh district ordinance requirements.
1:54:08Uh some of you will recall that includes a lot of aesthetic improvements, but it also has limitations on the ability to store things on the outside going to be required to be stored inside.
1:54:19They're seeking to reduce the setbacks on the two existing buildings.
1:54:22Um they're both extremely close to the property lines, and with the overlay, they're required to be at least six feet from the site setback property.
1:54:31And then there's the uh elimination of the 45 buffer requirement is currently shown.
1:54:35The storage goes all the way back into the property line, uh, to go back to the multi-field and to the PRD into that properties.
1:54:42Then there's a variance to allow outdoor storage within 50 feet of residential and more than 25% parcel.
1:54:48Umstation more than that.
1:54:50And then lastly, uh they're showing gravel on the site and showing approximately 69% of the site with gravel, gravel not being um allowed.
1:55:05And on that gravel, they would have parking surface, and so that is what triggers the code and the parking parking order in 760.
1:55:33The commercial corridor tier B was established in our ordinance approximately all marked area, but I don't want to miss the office.
1:56:00I think the plug would have been done around the time we started working on the powder spring streetscape and whatnot.
1:56:05If I have to guess because I know we had solar tier over there with the Rosal Street Railroad at the same time, you interior it.
1:56:15That was before the Worldview drugstore would have the corner of uh Wall Range.
1:56:41Yeah, walking I shot to five.
1:57:03Um this item is coming before city council uh because any historic projects that result uh wit results uh in demolition are not just to be approved by the historic bodies, but they would come uh before you as well.
1:57:15Uh kind of unfortunate position to where this property has already been demolished, and I'm looking at a little bit of history on how that happened.
1:57:23Um so this project initially came for an HPC uh back in October when they were working with the board uh on the aesthetics that they were getting approved for the historic property, uh, and that description um ultimately did get approved in the November time frame with a description of a limited demolition and partial new construction.
1:57:41Um as the property went forward to permitting uh the description on the permitting as that something to the effect of uh selective demolition and new construction, and then referred to submitted plans.
1:57:54Um unfortunately those plans uh had a lot more than demolition than what was initially contemplated at the HPC meeting where it was staff's understanding.
1:58:03And so it wasn't until the demolition started, uh staff was made aware of this and stop work order to put on the site because of the certain uh the need to take this before you uh they took it back to HPC uh where they ended up referring it back here for your consideration.
1:58:20So uh once again this will be a public hearing as well.
1:58:24Um question to be happening.
1:58:33So the HP C did they their initial recommendation pri uh prior to all this happening?
1:58:39They rec they approved the uh remodel correct yes for it.
1:58:44Um last week when they heard the stuff from something was delicious, could they just stored it along without recommendation or was it recommendation to they came out of that?
1:58:54It was a little bit unclear, to be honest with you, uh, but there was a lot of discussion about reuse of brick and existing materials from the historic pole that was taken down, uh, but there was nothing clear definitive coming forward to you in that mode except that that was a conversation piece that they had a mic.
1:59:14And um I guess it's kind of a question to the attorney as well as you just want what is before the city council in this case.
1:59:23Is it the entire COA or is it just the demolition?
1:59:27It is only the demolition.
1:59:30So uh if the fish become aware that uh Mr.
1:59:34Cummings uh is going to be on the BCAs and uh issues unrelated to the demolition authority.
1:59:44So it will not be before you missed it, they were thinking it would be before you are code and then demolition.
1:59:52And it's clear that regardless of what we do on Wednesday, the B the BCA action is something that's completely separate to our whatever we decide what affect that basically.
2:00:06H I think that may be a different piece of property.
2:00:16Um in that case there's one final question regarding the COA.
2:00:20Since it was approved back in November, yes.
2:00:27That might eventually get built regarding that.
2:00:29It has to follow that COA, correct?
2:00:33So it's supposed to have that look, the materials and stuff that was already approved back in November if it happened if it is built that's it.
2:01:03So what the order did do with basically this program.
2:01:35The HPC historic preservation commission.
2:01:38They have control not on the interior instruction, they're gonna control the mixed correctly.
2:01:44So if they did a different foundation on the interior and then add the port had bricks around it to cover it up and it's shown on the plants were back in November, that would theoretically be okay because it shouldn't show an exterior.
2:02:02I don't really know how to answer that question.
2:02:09Is the is that first question makes sense?
2:02:15If they did an interior if they did it if then the foundation within the footprint of the building.
2:02:23It had that foundation cover the better the stronger foundation, because I think the issue here is the fact that it was a one-story building trying to have a second story edition.
2:02:34If they had that set if they had the uh the foundation a new foundation, some stronger foundation could more on the interior side and then kind of cover bricks for the exterior look as part of that.
2:02:47Would that cover up?
2:02:48Would that be within the COA since that would then still look the same on the outside without the change?
2:02:55That's the wrong one, but I'm looking at the photographs uh in the package and it looks like the foundation is away in front of the view of picture.
2:03:08Yeah, it's I'm not able to ask that tonight.
2:03:23We had to say that circle about three years ago.
2:03:29And then my car's point, I should already have been one.
2:03:42We try to like a little bill the historical preservation could be.
2:03:55I remember it, but I don't remember any more details than you just brought up.
2:04:10I think we'd have to look what we did with Mr.
2:04:17Mayor, spotted stating that under our purview always denied just a demolition just specifically which is already occurred.
2:04:25So we are retroactively approving the demolition attorney.
2:04:28So they can move forward, completing the project at HP C appropriate.
2:04:33Is that is that your understanding is right?
2:04:36That sounds correct, but how do you get this new structure that is substantially complete?
2:04:41And it has to maybe we need Mr.
2:04:43Rice for how do they get this permitted?
2:04:47It's already been permitted.
2:04:48It had it has been perhaps it would be it's waiting upon this action by city council, and the stop work order would be lifted and there would be a lot of percentage.
2:06:49Maybe you can't answer this like that.
2:06:52But it's already going.
2:06:55So if we were to say no, you can't demo win.
2:07:03I don't see if we're the that's our only thing we're voting on.
2:07:15But no, we've been hanging on less this conversation needs to stay on the license, which is front.
2:07:22And if you vote to deny it, I I don't know where you are.
2:07:31What rugged is that it's no longer historical happening.
2:07:35And that's true true as well.
2:07:41But now they bear on the footprint.
2:07:56There's no big rebuild with that basic guidelines.
2:08:16Maybe we're gonna tomorrow like they're doing it.
2:08:38Okay, we're not just gonna hysterical mark.
2:08:45I think that's an HBC.
2:09:16Do I think she just gonna step on the war on the war?
2:09:33Is it after the point of work?
2:09:43Sometimes like February 15th or something or March 15th, but we can find out on the special phone.
2:10:14It would be okay if we have a special way.
2:10:17March twelfth this year is after the DLW meeting in March.
2:10:21And after our council meeting.
2:10:22So we got one to round the Thursday after the first day.
2:10:31So we're he's he's on the DLW through March March meetings, we don't need it especially cold.
2:10:37But we do it at the March council meeting.
2:10:40It's still the good threat.
2:10:52But the mail driver's still making a water.
2:10:59It's still on Wednesday.
2:11:02This turn expires the day after.
2:11:09It's on the night.
2:11:14Well it's our meeting, which hasn't been much.
2:11:18So I can just stay on the agenda for March meeting if we're fine.
2:11:50And the motion right back to the session is personnel uh leasing property acquisition of this position.
2:12:05All the bottom station.
2:12:12Yeah, why are you actually?