I call five to one of first time on a while because one of the goods.

I'll make them out of it.

Probably sucking on the right.

So hotel tax or rural tax financing.

So we'll take a look at our um January full-time melt.

And full-time maltel for this month includes 40,000 of out-of-period payments.

So if we normalize the receipts, we'll be approximately at 219,000.

And this is the lowest January collection that we've seen since COVID.

And that was in fiscal year 2021.

So $200,000 of additional revenue received throughout this fiscal year for the short-term rental marketplace audits have allowed us for fiscal year-to-year debate to remain in line with our prior year collections.

However, we have seen, and as I've expressed before, is continued to decline in some of the hotel collections.

So moving forward to our 3% auto rental.

And the auto rental is 105,000 239 dollars for this month, and this is on par for um with January 2024 collections.

So it is lower than prior year 125, but is required for 424.

And then lastly, we take a look at our quarterly financial report.

In all areas of our general funds revenue has remained stable, which is um good news, so we don't see any um major areas of concern um other than some of the um trends that we've talked about in the past.

Um nothing that we have forecasted um has um nothing has come to fruition outside of our normal forecast that we are online budget.

Our revenue collections fiscal year to date are at 3.1 million higher than last year.

Um this increase is generated uh primarily in three major areas, and that's um property tax licensing and intergovernmental revenue.

Um and those collections um are up the tax collections are up by six hundred and fifty thousand, licensing and permits are above point six million, and intergovernmental revenue is up thirty-six three hundred and sixty thousand.

Um our franchise taxes are steady, however, can um telephone as we've mentioned before continues to decline.

Uh business license our funds and forfeitures as well as sanitation and parts um will be our primary revenue as we enter into the last um month of our current fiscal year.

And looking at our operating expenditures, these are um less than expected, so that is helping our overall um have multiple areas that are optimizing savings opportunities.

These typically um they are typically enhanced.

Um we'll see in this activity for our purchases toward the end of the fiscal year, and everybody tries to make sure that they have um all of their expenditures um at least in um encumbered by year end so that they would be able to optimize on that kind of budget.

So you'll see those expenditure line items kind of um increase incrementally as we go along to the remainder of the fiscal year.

From a personnel um standpoint, we are operating at 4%, so um about 15% of the improvement positions are currently on field um and management continues to monitor um the operating and all uh salary savings funds are capital.

So we are on a completely um played hiring schedule, so it's not um I think it's uh two months delay the uh hiring school of the month.

Okay.

So um so just a small delay because we have um in meeting our um operating expectations as well as our revenue and that company is not right for which so I attended uh the tourism meeting today, that county and overall the county has seen a five percent decrease in a hotel book to uh AR show and of all the places around Metro Atlanta, we had the lowest at five percent.

There were a couple places that were in 26%.

Um so this is what everyone is seeing with the January.

Um now one hotel here did say that he saw an increase in February, and it's expect the March to be even better.

Um currently, this is kind of the state that we're in right now year to year over year.

Um those collections have done some of the um testing that has to do with the weather.

They are anticipating that uh there's as we go into the Mars was no more C increase.

Um also with um the um soccer with soccer.

I mean um some are in anticipated um which are uh profit margin that they've seen in the past we expect probably from um May to the July time frame just um motion to see the file second.

Second second round parts of budget.

So the parks bond um amendment is um a request to use um the reserve funds in the parks bond budget, uh parts about the cap reserve account in order to um pay for some additional expenses uh for the expenses for the remainder of the test of the year companies wanting to act as you are just really authorized.

So the funds are asked for have been appropriated, so these are everything that we've uh spent uh or will spend for appropriate uh funds for towards parks.

So really what probably should happen all is funds were appropriating, should we move from one account to the other so we can make it we can spend that money?

So that did not happen.

Uh so this is really more of a catch-up to that.

So we're moving funds throughout the cover funds we've already spent because that comes from the negative.

And this will also move us funds uh towards anything that's already appropriated towards larger score or nothing for what if it's already been purchased.

This will be a lot of and uh allows us to those funds well.

Um this is everything we have left, so so everything the uh everything in the parchment has been appropriated towards towards a project uh other than the uh additional interest that we're reporting spontaneous.

That is not that's not just to go to the two books.

Yes, I'll make a motion and so for instance.

Back in part of the second model.

Yeah.

So judge it to get some differences.

We haven't assisted cities program for a very long time.

We've got two sister cities or out there Germany and uh South America.

Um the uh group itself uh is not currently planning a trips or bringing anybody over and they're really proud of interactive in the staff.

They did a lot a lot.

Um ended up with a balance with $1,604.51 cents, and they wanted to give that over to the city for some other use.

Um it was suggested that uh maybe the people can talk about the mayor that um maybe they had to go to the World Cup customities when it may have going on because that would be definitely something involved in other countries and uh relationships and all.

So that's a question to this body of whether you want to accept a deposit uh and allocate it over to World Cup developments.

Costa Rica, the other nation.

And we haven't done anything with them in a good while.

Uh Germany would link to Germany was the one that uh would really have more activity with I mean they sent delegation over uh quick decisions citizens and we sent delegations over.

They said uh the last group that came over were counted students the mission over, and then we actually sent some students over there to school and search for last group students.

That was back when I was still in buried in high school, and uh no five members of the other families that had uh had a lot of German than my family just to make because it's gonna work enough for most families.

Obviously, what's the point to the kids during their time there?

That was probably back in 2009, 2010 range and reach.

We get one a long time ago to go in the street.

Hey, they were just fighting for years, and they were happy with that here for me, sure.

That's what their purpose was.

The motion is to recommend acceptance for the goal to meet this.

Oh to um recommend uh budget amendment uh to accept and deposit data at a moment.

Yeah, I'll make a motion um to accept and deposit uh eight thousand six hundred and thirty dollars and fifty one from the sister cities again.

Back in all those in fact business finance committee.

Well, but we'll send up your report a little later about uh the state legislature and different things that are going on and that we'll definitely pretend to find it.

Personnel committee, first item making meeting minutes of June 22nd is it to approve?

Hearing that all of things we sing the fight.

All right.

Uh the next item is this is the year 2025 page audit report.

Um the pension board.

Okay.

So we have um two packets in front of you.

Um first one.

The first one 2025 detention board audit.

This is an independent audit last month.

You may recall that we had for the council at the agenda work session.

The external auditors came and presented the audit in totality for the city.

So this is an independent audit is set aside specifically for the pension fund.

And during that audit, they go a little bit more in depth in this particular subject because it is pertaining to all of the retirement plans associated with the city.

So in your first packet in Nicholas College, you'll see on the first page, first three pages, is the auditor's opinion.

And these pages kind of outline the roles and responsibility of auditors and the management during audit process.

So you may have read in there that the first one was a revenue recognition.

In this instance, the auditors are stating that we could include or recognize our revenue sooner than we do.

So all it's what they mean by that is we can say that we have revenue or included on our financials sooner than we were actually recognizing it.

We are waiting until it actually gets in and is deposited that we're more conservative than we have to be.

So even though they consider it a risk only in so much that our finances could be higher sooner, but we just take the more conservative route and decide to recognize the winner.

Over the last fiscal year, we have made some major adjustments to internal authority and the ability to approve and override financial transactions, and so that has since been rectified, and we are no longer considered that to be a risk.

It outlines the net position of the pension fund.

So the change and the net position for 2025 was an increase of 7.66 million, which is higher than our prior year balance, which went from one point 131.9 million to 139.5 million.

And the net position shows the difference in inflows and outflows representing the overall falls of the pension fund.

So then it we can move on to page 17.

And on the third line from the bottom, it says pension fund pension fund plans funding ratio.

And this is an increase from the prior year, which was 62.98.

Um 70% is essentially our benchmark that we will look to strive to.

And also alternative investments.

So looking at page 18, we have the employer contributions.

So we decided that we were answering to a 25-year planned to get to 100% funding.

And so we are there are 17 and a half more years remaining on that amortization schedule.

And we are moving closer and closer to that as you can as I just mentioned we're striving for that 70%, but we have reached around about 66% funding ratio.

And so those payments, the um four-year payments are determined based on the amortization schedule.

So each year we get uh every two years, I'm sorry, our auditor our um we get a um actuarial update that we're that um outlines what we should be paying each year um or the city should be contributing to our uh pension in order to remain on that 25 year schedule.

Um you can see on the report that it's fluctuated um over the last 10 years, anywhere from 16.7 percent to 2012 um and in 2017 and 2018 we actually had excess funds that are circuit.

So on page 19, it talks about our investment returns.

Um this uh very important to the fund.

It talks about what we've um our return on investments, and um over the past 10 years we've averaged right at 8% uh of that, which for um a pension fund um is very, very, very, very good.

So we have been, especially during uh COVID and some of the other recessionary times, we've been able to um manage a very both interestment, and that speaks to our board and in their um diligence in monitoring those funds.

Um so that kind of walks you through everything from the auditors endpoint, and um I'll try to answer your questions that you may have if you have anything related to the auditor's report before I move on to the extra working.

We have no right to say what I do you have remaining average period of 1746 or check here.

What I actually might have number three okay, um stock market and all that.

It's actually a pretty good incident in here, which is okay.

Um if we turn to that, if you turn to page 17, and it's the third line from the bottom.

You'll see a uh row of percentages that goes from 2025 to 2026.

So in 2026, the pension fund was at 55.05%.

This is 25 to see.

I'm sorry, I said 2025.

Sorry.

Um 2016 is at 55.05%.

It has gone up and down fluctuating um as high as 67.9% in 2021.

And we are currently at 65.92%.

And there are um different factors that have contributed to that.

Um in 2022, we did have um some uh uh increase in salaries that affected that number.

Um, so we were um diligent about ensuring that our employees um had salary increases each year, so that does impact that percentage um as well.

We are striving to get a better story.

Worldwide let's remember that what we could block at it.

It does print it out of section added church, but we're gonna save boards or what that value pension population.

The 17.6.

Yes.

Yeah, so that's what they said.

Um, we're gonna be on air.

Yes, sir.

I'll uh make a look at that.

And we are scheduling for um another action where we'll let me this year for the next two years.

So I will ask them to include that in that report.

So we've got our shitty pigeon.

We had not it's bad.

That's our uh controls in place.

And then you turn back to my function don't work public pensions very often.

That's George State Law.

I mean, we're state losses we have to fund.

Um if we uh didn't actually state step in to a tax increase in front of it.

So uh that's not a problem.

Or if you have a private company like way back in Ron or something like that, um they have to pick into the back.

Um we can't do that.

So um even though we're uh you know we're trying to get to that hundred percent fund.

We fully follow every year, whatever we have to do.

Would have to be.

So um it's a cost issue of us going up kind of the back.

And so uh you know, I remember years we're starting.

We thought in the future we could get to 100 million.

And we thought that was gonna be way off in the future, but never here so it's a good thing.

And I I will say too, I think it's important to remember that we talk about returns in an average value or television or whatever else.

There's a size we're trying to run money to state law that we can buy with the investment stocks.

We have to put a few bonds of a rock.

Not the greatest turn off of all that, obviously, but it's pretty low.

So it shows you how high a return we're getting off the stock because we're gonna be able to do it.

So right now that the foreign market is like we can't invest in that, which is where we want if people are capturing increases because we can't do that when I had 70% funding yet.

So we're missing out on that opportunity, but we still stay steadfast to what our guidance is and points very seriously, which is one of the reasons I asked that we cover this topic today because we can see what the and the full attention that is paid.

Investments, and if we have to lose things around, making sure even in bad years that we're still doing well.

Yes, and uh we have our consultants called to make sure they're keeping everything.

That's important that's happening in the market and also helping us with every those rebalancing decisions and making sure that for keeping in line with both our policy as well as state law.

Um making sure that we're keeping it diversified.

We're we're usually return-wise in the top ten percent of all public pensions.

What do you think we had to do?

Or just for pigeon.

Uh no, it's not how to call that.

Um that's disguised absolutely stuff.

Um and that's that's hard to try to get this as fully funded as possible to have things like that.

I will say we have to see if this uh definitely monitoring too because of the multipliers that we have in our pension.

Our pension is lots of better than a lot of folks uh in the public sector here's the problem sector a lot of them have it.

But uh there are uh some very large uh entities near us, very near us, um, that we're actually twice what their pension is.

They uh can't be you working with this include the church, do you think that'll retire in that's separate so uh yeah?

Yes, sir.

That's so we're gonna fund it in September.

We do, we fund that out of the general fund.

Um it's not out of investments or anything else, it's actual money that we fund in the budget every year out of the general fund, it goes over into uh we've got pension benefits, we have uh regular employee benefits, uh, we have uh our um insurance uh costs that we put in there, and that's not only health, but that's risk management costs that are all in there.

Uh whereas comp is in there.

Um so there's a pull of funds, uh insurance slash risk fund uh that we have, and uh that goes up and down depending on the years that we have.

Um sometimes we draw from it, sometimes we add to it.

Uh, but it it is it's separate from the general funding, but it's funded by the general fund and the other.

So all our active funds we have employees, it's funded uh when we do the paychecks for those individuals that uh it's a portion of the money goes into the city, 15 yard paycheck, and so when we put that in, uh and then you revisit that every year and look and see uh how we're doing there.

Um say some years are real good, and some years are we gonna hit it harder.

Um imagine some insurance costs, uh different things, so uh we keep track of that where we are.

Um right now the employees are paying four percent on their pension and what's a god, and then as you um know, uh with the health insurance, uh we're one of the lowest anywhere, uh, as far as what we charge our employees.

We've been uh having the city for most of that cost for a long period of time, and that's one of the reasons why our benefit package is so good compared to other governance here as for private sector, uh, because their cost for family insurance and single insurance uh is much lower than just going to work anywhere else around you.

And so uh we that really gives us a good benefit to help us retire and also too.

That'll go go, which you can there's a big conversion for the kitchen.

Um guess and what happens on that, I kind of can go quickly through that.

Um we have a lot of folks that really uh we can't be educated on this because it um it's not as simple on its face.

Um so basically when you retire, um your amount that you pay into employee health is frozen.

Now that word uh means a lot of different things to a lot of people, but that's frozen, so that can be frozen um at you, say you're currently paying um five hundred dollars a month or whatever it is.

Um well once you hit 60 minutes free for that amount and it's not gonna go up for you.

Um but then once uh in 65, then you're gonna go on the federal program.

Plus, we're gonna have supplemental programs that we're gonna give you.

Well, what happens at that point is usually the amount drops somewhat what they're paying.

And then it may go up usually as number down, but it can usually go up a little bit.

But it never can go above that amount of frozen year.

So if they go on the federal system and they drop down $200, it may go up $30 next year, but it can't go above where it was frozen.

And that's what they were paying when they left us.

Um now, some folks are sitting there and go, well, I'm confused.

It's you said it's frozen, so why am I paying more this year than I paid last year?

Well, you are paying more than you paid last year, but you're still below your frozen amount, um, which is $200 more than you're paying.

Um, because that's what you were paying when you left us, and that's what it was frozen.

Um so we have to bid it out every year um as far as the uh supplemental insurgents that you get, and so it's a retiree uh when you go on um Medicaid.

Um uh that amount depending on the year, the responders that we get, different companies, um, it can fluctuate.

So and and also it can change the uh what it covers you know how much it's paying and all.

And so that's where it gets real confusing for retirees.

And then we have to say, okay, let's go back to when you retired.

Here's what you were paying when you retire.

It's gonna go like this.

Um, but it will never go more than you were paying when you're here.

I can't I wish I could put them on that.

What they do uh with us, they go on to M65, they go on to Medicare.

So they're they're dealing with Medicare.

And then they've got a supplemental plan.

I forget what it's called.

Yes, the supplemental weekend and we have two.

Oh yeah, so that's where it's all the middle.

That's what we've done as a subject.

Yes, um make this portion um because we covered a lot of it um during the overall um auditors report, but a couple things I did wanna um point out.

Um on page five.

We talked about the um liability, and that just kind of um puts it in the dollar amount and outlines that for the um overall pension liability.

We talked about the percentage of that that's it in a dollar amount, and then on phase seven.

As I mentioned, um, over the past ten years, we've averaged eight percent return on investment.

We have a discount rate um at seven and a half percent.

And so this case gives you an idea if we move that percentage up or down, plus or minus eight percent, what that would do for our overall liability.

So you'll see the seven and a half percent, um, and then you'll see the liability if it falls um below that, and then the eight and a half percent.

So if we increased it by one, the um one percent in increase with it in millions with that um liability would be, and then if we decreased it by one percent to six and a half if that liability would be.

So, um as I mentioned that uh return on investment or discount rate has a tremendous impact on what our overall liability and uh percentage funding is.

So it's it's um very important to the fund um that we maintain a decent return on investment.

Um and then lastly, if you turn to the first stage of the attendance, mayor.

I think this is equal to that reports when you were uh referring to.

It doesn't have a 25 year, but it does have a 47 year projection report of where we um based on um evaluation at the time this one was conducted.

Um this is uh two years ago, something had the other one just now.

So this one um gives us an idea if we looked at the head 47 years into 2073 what we would look like.

The pension fund may look like based on the criteria that was set at the time.

And that sums up completely more report.

Right, so the next item is um appointments, and the first one being a planning commission appointment, which is a reappointment of Bob Kenny for Ward 6.

Uh, do I have a condition for this?

We're having that problem today.

I don't know, I'm assuming that's true.

Yes.

Second.

Motion to approve a second all of day for please just think the five years.

Which we have section one.

Um we can focus on consent if we turn one consent, or we can have consent.

It feels like doing it.

So I've got to make it up.

Uh the next item of the Historic Preservation Commission again, Ward Six, and that is an appointment of Judy Renfro to the HPC.

Uh to build the I think the market turn back in the motion.

We're recommending the law for council.

I have a question to do it after the second.

Thank you.

Okay, question.

So Mr.

Aaron Friday.

Council said, if you've got a look at her, obviously we have a change from Rebecca to be how do you know her?

So you should talk here.

And that's in the ward spirit.

Um what we do in the windows.

Umfortunately in this remote.

And so we're section with the play.

So just so I could really use the cards.

So, yeah, we're saying that we have to do it.

Okay, we're saying that's the category.

Yes, sir.

Uh all parties both be okay with uh with those.

Alright.

Anybody else comments?

Got a vote in the second.

All in favor?

Reopening those is this good for consent?

Uh next is my appointment, or actually reappointment from Steve Steve Edler, uh, to the Historic Preservation Commission for a term expiry on March 11th, 2029.

Do I have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Second.

Sorry, don't you know stage?

At least the last 20 minutes of that long.

We're currently trying.

Very good.

Um questions or concerns all in favor?

Mr.

Rio.

Is it good for consent?

Yes.

My consent, please.

Next is the board of zoning appeals.

Uh this is an appointment of Gene Alright to BCA from Board 5 for a term effective May 13th, 2026.

March 13th.

Hey.

Mr.

Attorney.

Okay.

So you may do that.

Okay.

Um councilman can spot the obviously with the separate.

Do I have a motion?

Make a motion for what we call full council.

Second.

Okay, we got a motion or second comment question.

So I've talked to this command call.

I should end up probably made the late.

Like we did when Jay Davis came off a planet.

I think the council is a good one.

Whatever you go outwards, definitely distinguish service for the good thing.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Please.

Um can you tell me what about land use and zoning uh this only computer?

So many messages are very interesting what's going on.

So this is going to be council meetings that we'll get to just be able to do.

That's cool.

I know.

Any other questions?

Comments, concerns.

Hearing done, we have a motion and a second.

All in favor, so signify.

That's a three-o.

Is that good for consent?

Uh next is the historic board of review.

Appointment for board four.

This is a reappointment of Jim Turtle to the historic board of review for a two-year term.

Please.

Strong vocal leader, so nothing.

We'll continue doing good job.

Okay.

Alright, I've got a motion second.

Any comments, questions, concern?

Hearing not all favors are signified.

That's the Rio.

Uh is good for consent.

All right.

Board of lights and water reasoning.

Chef your board members should be egg-backed round.

Good factor.

After so many.

I hope they'll pick you, but I don't know.

I spoke to Mr.

Wanted to put it on the side.

So we're chairs of animal chair.

Please.

I make a motion for Terry Lee's four lights in the water for the rest of the member for a four-year term.

Sorry.

Got a motion and a second.

Uh any other comments, any questions, any concerns?

I'll just say that I've known Terry for a few years now, and I fully support this.

I think he has outstanding um for the board when we're here, but also in conferences when he goes.

So I think that's what's saying with that.

For the reappointment of Mr.

Terry Lane is just good for set.

Well, if we're four to the Wednesday's new for consent.

Alright, the last I know.

So kind of discuss this a little bit back in our January 5th meeting.

Um this the current list, and there's all sorts of different terms.

Two year, four years, six year.

Clearly on here we will need to.

I think everybody is expired except for Mr.

James Southern, and you might have to call him that.

Um that's Mr.

Chobs.

Um everybody else is timed out and remain until placed.

I I've seen a couple of um I put up somebody card line.

Oh, I can see what's right means today's the first one in there.

Okay.

Oh four.

Okay, got it.

First remote servers application.

Great.

Got it.

So I'm not really sure how to do this, Mr.

Mayor, because I don't think we've ever had a time when everybody was leaving at the same time.

So it's a replacement replaced for the particular board.

They're not board specifically.

There's they're post specific.

So we've got to decide who goes into what post.

Because like I said, post one and two are two-year terms, three and four or four-year terms, five, six, and seven or three-year terms.

So as we appoint people, they're not all seeing a ball in terms of.

So we're not only gonna decide on the people, but we also need to decide on which post.

Yeah, I guess we're looking for it or something.

Okay.

He has resigned the city, which is in extra reason.

That one's for sure.

So Mr.

Henderson is trying to and Judy is dying because we just put Judy on a different board.

Um calls so long because it's all at this point.

He also need to be reappointed if he's going to be tensor.

Yes.

I have not spoken to Mr.

Sutherland.

Um I can probably find talk to him between now and the work session.

Two four.

So I said six.

Two that are four and three that are six years.

And so far two of our six years are gone.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

Sorry.

Are we trying to I know this is the committee, but move these forward tonight, or this is just a discussion about it, and then not moving these forward tonight.

This is right now, this is just a discussion on that's where that we are in a position.

Yes.

We've got to figure out who goes into which.

No, I agree.

That's that's why I was that's why I was asking.

Yeah.

Okay.

I I think it definitely is that we need to just discuss this, and so we've got right now three people.

His fans were presented to us.

Mr.

Elliot would like to remain, so that would be four uh for the check with Mr.

Sutherland.

That would be but we still need two more because we're gonna tell her setting.

Okay, and I was somewhat confused about post versus wars.

So they're just shooting it.

Well, yeah, posts are all citywide.

Okay.

We're not gonna do it.

We're just discussing right now.

There's no way we've gotten right that point.

I think we need to check with Mr.

Sutherland, which is what I think the younger Mr.

Sutherland is going to do right now.

Um might be better to get this either either by the end to do the work session.

Yes, or a level committee item on the article to get this uh work session to start working on case based on the floor.

We need to five people on there.

Um just looking at what they do.

We need to find them all there.

We need to decide.

So I think we do need to move it forward to the agenda work session.

Um because again, we're we're still two days short.

If anybody knows anybody else who would like to see one of these board, um we have Mr.

Little, Mr.

Deeds, and Mr.

Woodland.

Um we have Mr.

Elliott would like to stay with four, and we're checking with Mr.

Sutherland.

So that would be five.

Okay, uh I'm assuming Mr.

Dunway's probably still just I think Mr.

Dunway is still in the city.

So you check with Fran and France.

Uh now we're also sitting here with sure.

So it's in the Senator.

So we still have it and I don't believe that Fran is also still in the city.

But uh nominated.

No, the five includes the three nominees, so three nominated, Mr.

Elliott, Mr.

Sutherland would be five.

But I got an email.

Yes, that's Mr.

that's the three, Mr.

Little, Mr.

Deeds, and Mr.

Malone.

So that's three.

And then we know that Mr.

Elliot wants to stay, then we're checking on Mr.

Sutherland.

So we still have two board positions.

Oh, we need to have two three except for three that have been nominated.

I got both.

Well, no, okay, yes.

I I see what you're doing.

So we know that TD Redfro is off and we know that Mr.

Henderson's up.

So if we were to reappoint the current five, then yes, rep to eight right now.

But is anybody talking to any of the current settings?

No, sorry, Mr.

Okay, Mr.

Sutherland would like to stay.

That's out of those two minutes.

So we know Mr.

Elliott and Mr.

Sutherland, so we're gonna need to check with Mr.

Morton, Mayor Donnaway, and Fred's.

I'm happy to reach out to Stringwort.

Please do so, okay.

I can call it.

Let's just all call to the bad way and see if he wants to be away.

Oh god.

Mayor.

Mayor.

We're the one the other ones of us called.

Oh, mayor Dunaway.

We got it.

I think we've been here.

We're years behind.

I might just share the nomination.

We closed it.

At eight.

Oh, today.

We don't.

Do you say about that?

Because I have dressed the three that all nominated.

Step forward.

So again, if we added three more, we'd be four.

It's we're up to three.

We're up to five.

Three nominated um Mr.

Elliott, Mr.

Sutter.

So now we're looking at Mr.

Morton, Aaron Dunaway and France then.

We're gonna need to make some decisions.

I'll be glad.

We'd like to talk to me.

The last time I bought a subject and Mr.

Dunaway ended up in trouble.

We got all the bunch of years.

I'll confirm with sacrifice.

There's no way to follow the boom.

I'm happy to talk to them still in Morgan Francis, too, just to make sure if they're solid, they might not be interested.

So I'll reach out before the next meeting we can.

Okay.

I agree with the mayor.

I mean, I think these three qualifications.

I think that the mayor has used to computer systems to bring you know bring force nominations.

I think uh it's just a matter of what post there can be in terms of how next month is my view.

I agree.

That's something we're also gonna think for doing that.

We uh want to first six more years, yeah.

How many years must say what we have terms of two four and six?

Um less than six, and if so, what were you looking at?

Or could be points or up to six, then that might part of that might be their account where I want to meet.

Okay, Jason, do you have any thoughts?

I know you're kind of out there on an island at this point.

Okay, tweet that again, please.

And do you have any thoughts about anybody to nominate or anybody that's currently serving?

Um the discussion has been that we've had three people that we've come up with, um, and they're in your packet, Mr.

Dates, Mr.

Huttle, and Mr.

Malone.

And then we've got we know for a fact that Mr.

Sutherland and Mr.

Elliott would like to remain.

So that's five seven.

I think.

I think we're talking to Mike Henderson.

He's more young side of the seven automatically present.

Yes.

Well, yes.

So that's a resignation.

And Miss Renfro, we just appointed her for Ward Six HBC.

So we know that those two positions we definitely are gonna need to fill.

Okay.

So we're looking at moving this.

I guess I need a motion on what we're gonna do, but i it appears to me that, and I'll make the motion that we move this forward to the Monday agenda work session, and we speak to the people remaining and the people that we'd like to appoint so that we know what post they they would most likely want to be in.

Whether they want to do six forward two years, and we come up with um a slate of seven for a vote.

Okay.

That's my motion.

I'll second that motion.

Any more discussion?

T'es gonna reach out to France that's Jordan Horton, and we're gonna let somebody with a let Bill reach out to Dunaway.

Or I'll do it.

One one of the two of us will do it.

Alright, I've got a motion second.

Any other discussion?

Hearing that all in favor.

Alright, that's 3-0, so we're gonna move this forward to the temperature section.

And on that personnel committee stands adjourned.

All right, my turn.

Alright, so Parks Record Tourism Committee is called to order.

Uh Andre and T, if you don't mind using voice vote because video is about 10 seconds behind.

So first item of business is approval of minutes.

We have a motion to approve.

All in favor?

Aye.

It was an animation motion.

Right.

Sorry.

Said it again.

There's also uh statement amending minutes for this for this committee.

Say that again.

I'm sorry, it's hard to hear.

Um there's there's uh amended minutes for the park spectrum tourism committee.

I believe Stephanie uh Stephanie said that she forward the law for the back to you.

Got it.

Yes, I do.

Amended minutes.

Do we have a motion for the amended minutes?

Okay, second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Okay, motion carries.

First item of business is the 2009 park spond report.

I'll start with that.

So uh for park sponsors the January committee report, uh interest earnings were credited in the accredited in the amount of 238 dollars and twenty-seven cents.

Uh sense uh seventy-seven thousand five hundred and eighteen dollars and twenty six twenty-seven cents is available for future proportions to include any overages uh very specific art.

Um speaking of that, I'll turn it over to Rich Devin and give it up to what's more.

The evening last uh last month we uh had good news that the restaurant was coming in early, and as of last Thursday, it rolled in, and the gentleman driving club the crane drove in, took one look at the job, and said we can't do this.

So um unfortunately the rest of it was not installed, but I don't have any pictures for you today because it really not much has changed.

We did do our treekeeper planting out there, uh wouldn't have been two Saturdays ago now.

Um but there is trees over on the new trees over about 80% of the property are out there.

Um the rest of we're actually waiting.

Uh the uh crane company has indicated they need a taller train, and given that well, there's power lines across the street from uh the site, and they've requested that we de-energize those lines.

And so our friends at the BLW are really uh uh doing us a favor, and they've been making the phone calls and bringing the letters to get that uh it's a it's a transmission line de-energized, and they will uh BLW will de-energize the local lines, and the great folks should be happy with that.

Um time frame right now we're not getting anything clear.

Um initially we're getting up to two months, uh, but that time frame is starting to pull, pull in tighter.

Um we are still waiting for the uh picking shelter, which uh is only March installation, and uh there's just little things here and they're being done by the contractor and my staff, and that's important that it right now.

Thank you.

And I'd love to see that Wildwood is the number four most used disk golf park.

In the state, yeah.

Yeah, yes, sir.

So uh thanks for mentioning that, uh, Councilman.

So just in your uh in your packet is a copy of the uh 2005 recreation impact report uh for the uh for the disk golf course, and so that uh report was created by UDISC.

Uh so you disc is a popular app used by disc golfers that tractor's report.

Um, just some knowledge is as counsel pointed out uh in 2025 while would Wildwood Park Disc golf course was the number four most playing force in the state.

Um so that was pretty cool.

Um a little a little over 11,500 rounds of disc golf were played uh at the park this past year.

Um RT Hunter Disc offers uh played the park for the first time last year, and then I thought this was a uh pretty cool physic.

Uh 115 people try this golf for the very first time on that one.

Um so that's uh I think that's uh pretty good for our for our uh first year in existence then.

And so uh Yeah, that's maybe that's it too.

Uh so councilman, uh this report is presented as informational and requires no additional average.

Thank you.

Any further questions on the park spond report?

All right.

Thank you, sir.

There's no action on this.

Uh next uh meag right of entry agreement.

Right.

Um thank you.

So uh Mr.

Hades passing out uh copies of the correct agreement, so there's a there was an agreement in your in your impact previously.

Um so with the uh correct version, uh councilman goes to requests some uh capitalization corrections and those are cleared in the candy uh version that's been passed around.

Uh those corrections are in rent, so it's really just capitalization of of some of the words.

Um that you go stay for your asking.

Anybody have questions on the MIAG right of entry agreement?

One point if I could.

Um give A just have total partials and contact me for the statements of where the pride of the H will go, it'll be like an ease when they don't have the expected.

But that would be general.

I've already been that context, so they're gonna send me a drawing so we'll have to send your information.

Um so let me just uh discuss the agreement in general.

So on February 9th, uh staff are contacted by MIAG uh requesting approval of a right of entry agreement.

Um they need the agreements uh to complete channel restoration work along the Rockwood Creek.

Uh near two of our properties, uh the work is necessary to protect several uh 15 kilovolt transmission structures in a run along the creek.

Um recent erosion has been got an impact of freak bank and that is left unaddressed.

Uh this could undermine the structural integrity of of their transmission rights.

Um doesn't force in the creek is located outside of their transmission right away on onto our property, that's why they're asking for a right of uh right of entry agreement.

Uh just a note on these two properties, the uh as to what they are.

The first parcel is the is the AVA and baseball complex.

Um the second parcel is just as an undeveloped property off of Fairground Street.

Uh just of note that both of these properties are uh were uh acquired through uh federal funding, so uh through the National Park Service.

So they are both federally protected park properties.

Um I did consult with uh George Department of National Resources, and they have no concern with with issuing the Toronto uh injury agreements.

Um I mentioned the uh Bay Aviation Baseball Complex.

Uh we have an agreement with uh 643 DP uh to operate their uh that facility as a business, and so uh we would need to keep them appraised of any potential impact um to their uh to their operations.

Um has also had the opportunity to uh to review the agreement um if you have any questions for him.

This previous resentment on that uh I can ask.

And then other than that, I would uh this time staff would recommend a motion to approve the right of entry agreement between State Marietta and Music.

I'm in agreement with this.

Any other questions?

Mr.

Chair.

Well uh have quite just have one question regarding the thing for a motion.

Um for the uh submitted to correct that will just that be that can get done between now and probably in uh one city council meeting.

All right, you asked the free additional where they were the entry support that they're gonna send me a withdrawal because they would give me an additional drawing from for the first report spot.

With the addition.

Yes.

Do we have a motion to approve?

All right, second.

All in favor?

Aye.

All right, motion carry.

Next item of business, uh request for Mary Artists Council to utilize city property for the 2015 and to our trail fest event.

All right.

Uh thank Mr.

Chairman, so I will appoint it.

Council.

Sorry.

That was a poll of the council based off the motion that we stated.

So I'll probably better hold our consent while until I get the uh exhibit key updated exhibit.

We have an additional document that we added to the content in your yard back in the sending again.

Well, never mind.

I'll go to down consent.

I'll take a look at it if there's additionals in conflict.

So okay with consent.

I'm asking for not to non-consent, please.

All right, nod for consent.

Okay.

Um thank you.

So for the uh the amount of retrail fest.

Uh like uh Abby Smith uh is here uh this evening and she can answer any questions uh specific to that.

So please remember what it's happening from the season, Abby.

Uh the uh retrail fest is conducted annually by the American Arts Council to celebrate the autistic and cultural celebration uh cultural landscape of the city, um the uh it's several aspects um on various park properties um and so uh in the back or with the request, other than the days being updated uh with requests, uh this request for this request for this year's uh trail fest are consistent with requests approved by council approved.

Um for information in the packet is a letter of background materials from the Ray Barry Art Mary and Arts Council uh outlining the request for the uh for trail transfer this year.

There's also photos uh uh in the article.

And so the uh requests are listed in your memo.

I'm happy to read those if you'd like me to, but they're in the memo.

Um that's what being requested.

And again, those are consistent with what was approved last year with uh with the dates being changed, reflected there's this year.

Uh so this time staff will recommend a motion to approve the request by the Mary Art Mary Arts Council for the NTR Trail Fest 2026.

It looks in line to me and ask anyone that was here last year and had any objections with what happened last year if we're sorry, broke up.

If we're any there, we're here.

Sorry.

Sorry, it's a bad connection.

Any issues with what happened last year, so we can move forward with this year.

All right, discussion.

All right, there was a motion to approve.

Second.

I'll second.

All in favor.

Aye.

All right, motion's approved.

And we're taking it to council for work session.

Objection for consent.

Okay.

All right, next item of business.

Are you there?

Sorry.

Motor vehicle tax distribution framework.

I'm sorry, it's hard to hear.

So everybody's got a copy of that.

And uh we also have the other documents that were presented at the last meeting, uh, and we have the summation that Eric is able to put together about possible capital projects.

I know that's not necessarily for the decision tonight, but uh we could.

I think we'd like to go through those to just give a definition of what they are if you can.

We'll go through that, and then the two things.

One is I would love for us to move forward with the framework.

I think uh I have revised this with committees um permission and consent to move forward with moving forward with the flag project and moving forward with the rest going to permanent parts improvements, and then Eric's gonna go through uh a few things that the parks department has come up with.

Uh we're not gonna decide on that tonight necessarily, but move forward with just the framework what we're gonna do, approve the flags, and then discuss further on how we're gonna do with the parts improvements because some of the parks seem to come from Splost to uh get some of our funding from Cobb and so just turn it over to Eric to talk about that part.

Okay, all right.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

So just for advising uh reminder at the January committee meeting staff are directed to help a list uh for this committee meeting of potential projects as part of this discussion.

And so we have identified several projects.

I'll put together a PowerPoint just so you can have a visual of what I'm discussing as I'm talking about it.

Yeah, we ox.

I'm sorry.

We're pulling up the PowerPoint.

Okay.

Can I ask one question?

I'm sorry, say that again.

Yes, sir.

There's 900 65,000, and that all comes from prior years.

Okay.

So we're going to buy that.

So I'm talking.

I have a question.

So this doesn't impact current the reserves this year.

No, this is using the rollover balance that we've had that we need to allocate that was has not been allocated.

Let me talk about just some potential projects that you consider for this on behalf of the Apple staff.

So the first three items are related to the uh Goneworth Wood Museum and Gardens in Bromley Hall.

I'll point out that uh Jessica G.

Cole is is uh is here this evening and she can answer some questions specific to that.

Um also recently had a hand in prepared Moses as well, and he's with us and you can ask questions for him.

So the uh the first project is the creation of a bridal suite of Romney Hall.

This is in the greenhouse area adjacent to the bathroom cottage, and I'll point it out for you out on there.

The uh picture to your left uh shows what it what the drawing of what the uh what the building front looks like inside explain what everybody really's gonna use.

Alright, so the uh this project is the 175,000 project.

Um you can see uh just draw what it would look like, and then also an image of what it would look like.

So what this would entail is uh adding baddies and lighting, scabs, quartz countertops, uh adding a wet bar plumbing, uh adding French doors, adding HVAC insulation, and also repairing and leveling the so this improvement would allow uh Romy Hall to better compete with comparable venues for wedding and other events, um, and it also would allow for uh for additional book into weddings, increasing revenue, and then it would also allow uh for space for as a gathering venue for community community organizations uh that could be used or that would contribute to additional revenues.

Okay.

So uh the front yard sign is landscaping of not been honest.

A few years a few years ago.

So this is a $75,000 project.

Um that would include uh landscaping and signage in front of the house uh right next to Pack Springs streams.

And so I will point out that this project is going through several revisions, so this is a lower cost version of that.

Um that project is what that will look like.

Uh but the uh the signage from the streets, it'll better run the museum uh from from County Spring Street, and also improve the look and control of the museum first.

Thank you.

Third project is also related to Romey Hall is uh Ruby Hall maintenance improvements.

So this is a $39,000 project.

Uh this would include a replacing deteriorating wood siding, uh scraping and painting the house, uh, and also installing handrails in the garden.

Uh so just reminded that Rombie Hall is 175-year-old home and preventive maintenance such as uh items I described as necessary to avoid future policy repairs, and then regarding the handrails, uh there's other areas in the garden where handrails are necessary, uh so we can use any use.

Okay.

All right.

Um so the next series of items are the various parks recreation facilities.

The first item is the renovation of our bunkers at the City Club Marietta.

And so just for everyone's awareness, the City Club-the-placer AI in 2025 at 130,750 visitors.

So very popular golf course.

And so to renovate the bunkers.

So according to the American Association of Golf Course Architects, the bunker stands should be replaced every five to seven years, and then bunker drainage pipes to be replaced every five and ten years.

And so the last time the bunkers were completely renovated, it was between 2005 and 2006.

So it's been 20 years since that happened.

And so what we have then, we would replace uh capsulary concrete bunker liners.

So imagine the shape of a bunker and outcome form and stuff on this conquer.

And so it's uh it's designed to allow firmness drainage, rabbit drainage, uh eliminate washout and rains, that kind of thing, and also prevent uh sand contamination.

Um so over time uh sand and bumpers become contaminated through debris and also poor drainage.

Um this results in the sea becoming uh hard and compact, which makes it not a very enjoyable experience for golfers.

Um the whole point of them being there is to enjoy themselves.

Um so periodically uh sand has during the last 20 years, sand has been added in core out of being since that time.

Um but if renovating the bunkers uh will allow for all new sand and also allow for the uh bumpers to be properly drain something that will play as design.

Uh this will provide a very better overall experience for golfers at the city's lab, um, as well as decreased maintenance maintenance time.

Thank you.

Um I don't have an answer.

Yeah, the plans are all too good.

Okay, um change.

Oh well, I send the bunkers.

Oh, yeah.

Well, the the amount of game workplace will break all running all.

Uh the uh next on the project list is uh Elizabeth Port of Park development of the former summer hour property.

Um so uh before I start to point out um Elizabeth Port of Park and Spring that are very popular for this area.

Um in 2025, uh we had Port Placer AI, we had 100,000 380 visitors uh to the park and to the spray ground.

Um so this project is necessary due to the recent prices that the summer property adjacent to the park.

You can see in the picture of what that looks like presently.

Uh and this will allow us to incorporate the property into the rest of the park.

Um there's a couple different options we're going to present to.

Uh the first is uh is that in a pavilion and a connective walking trail.

You can see what that would look like over that space.

So this will be a first uh 50 person pavement with a walk and trail.

Uh one off the option we have is with this is being able to rent half the pavilion.

Um comparable size is the is the pavilion in Tumblin' park.

Um as far as uh finances and fiscal year uh 2025, uh we generated 12,425 in rails uh at that very popular uh this camper detail.

Um how much is to be rented, but it's a similar size, and this is a very popular part.

Uh the second option you will take whatever thing with the it would be the first number, so it'd be the 45,200 calors, and then you would add additional amounts for these additional options.

So option number two would add an additional 310,000.

Um if you wanted to, we could add in uh three light and pickleball courts to the facility.

So we have several tennis ports in the facility that are in the facility in the city.

Uh to have that.

But that would be option two.

That would be an option four force.

And again, that would add $310,000 to the uh television cost.

Uh option number three would be to uh uh to add a 4,000 square foot uh skate spot, and so uh this would add an additional $350,000 to uh the over the base price of parking.

Um so just as a side note, this space would actually accommodate a skateboard park would use uh 7,000 square feet, but that would increase the cost for $350,000 to $600.

Uh and the uh just information on the phone, the escape spot versus the skate park.

Uh skate spot is generally a more urban course um with stairs, legis curves, uh as opposed to ramps and they have stairs, then they're generally smaller, so that would be a smaller place to buy place to put that in with pause on the skate part for a second.

I believe that with Sploss we have some money from the county if we do a skate park, correct?

We do.

So we have actually there's two parts of supply finding available.

So there's we have a uh supply fund for general parking permitts.

Um so we have uh about 770, roughly 775,000, a little bit less than that in that account.

Uh there's also a joint project with the um uh with the uh the county since 1.5 million top of this half made for us, one weekend zone is one county, uh, and that is for the language of that is for state parks or other sports facilities, so we can do uh uh based on the language.

We can interpret that how we want to.

Um yes, both of those pots and money could be can be uh um could be used for that one.

The way I'd do have to have the quick direction is for a joint project, it's okay.

I don't want to get laptop board or two, like we have board of education, but but it was probably a could we get permission from the county?

That's what we would have to do, I think it's not putting up because I've been board with an all-curved.

No, they were going to take our lead or whatever we wanted to use the money for, but we do have to reimburse funding, so we wouldn't want to approach them and make sure wherever we use the name for whatever purpose that they're okay with it.

They bless it and they're gonna pay us.

So my question would be with that one point five.

Did we not just do it out of that and not use any of this roll over money?

There's both this because you could remember something could do some other records.

Not only ours.

You know, where do we allocate the money so that we get the most, right?

So we don't want to necessarily use this money there for a skate park if we're gonna get money to be swatched from skate park from the joint project.

That's what I mean.

Yes.

Uh just one more note on the skateboard.

So that was uh that was uh when we did our parks by we did uh uh just our last master plan.

That was some of the language is using that as busy desire facility for the city that was not it has a sovereign communication.

If you have a group that's at the shelter.

There will be noise associated with the and then also if you don't pick a ball, what the other option there would be noise with pickable.

I I had made that suggestion the skate park inverse, but I thought we had issues with the um it's got some kind of water restrictions on it because of the stream that kind of goes through into this buffering issue.

We'd have to look at it and see what it's a barement park, so but you don't want to put something back off the roads and save it.

So we'd have to look at that and see some comments, discussion.

Um I think the council has glue in on noise.

It was a war park, it's an absolute incident residential number.

Umide small people uh pushing back.

It's happening in Cobb County on noise.

I've just uh encouraged this design to really consider the noise.

Um skate parks have as well, so it's very close to the residential here.

So I would love to see skate park be somewhere where there's more tree cover, pick a ball with more tree cover.

That's just my my thoughts on that.

Thanks for that.

So just so everybody's clear, this is just an overview of options.

Uh just so we can be thinking about it and discuss it.

There's no decision on just options tonight.

Uh really the framework is what's up for the vote tonight.

Uh and so everything else is so it's in everyone's mind, everyone needs to be thinking about it as we you know move forward over the next couple months.

Thank you.

With showing the images, it's showing the uh the size of that area, what what could fit uh as far as the mini-wise and just options?

Um there's there's obviously more options than just an option, I agree with your option that can't be compatible for the squash.

Okay.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear that.

I'd like to give you like a bell dish, but I might take optional edition number two off the list.

What are you referring to?

Short foot, right?

You said sixty-five, right?

No.

Oh, $350,000.

If I understand correctly, if you're looking at the memorandum analysis number five, bullet point to optional edition number two skate park.

The mayor was proposing just having that be struck from one of the options list, basically.

Does that make sense?

It makes sense.

I wasn't saying there should be no skate park anywhere.

You're just saying we're not saying no skate park.

What we're saying is look at using the spot money instead of this money, use this somewhere else.

100% agree.

So I'll continue.

The uh next project is uh triggering park pollinator garden.

So this was requested by uh Councilwoman Richardson.

Um if you look to your right, uh we had a potato garden was originally created at the park for the scope project project, and you can look at uh to the left what that what that vision would look like.

Um that would involve removing a fairly base vegetation, extending the water line for better irrigation, uh adding new plants and signage, uh improving the hardscape, and uh resolving some erosion issues we have there.

So there is a little bit left in our park spot funds, so there's $5,136.

That's already been appropriate.

That was a joke.

It didn't come across on the phone.

You're right.

Yeah.

And some of the other things, some of the other things I've been talking to a couple of the people about is adding it to panels that talk about the different clinators and Sweitzer Park or Switzerland Park depending on how you say it has a program where they introduce kids to pollinators who were close enough that they can come over to this garden.

And it some people may not know is in addition to bees, birds, and butterflies.

We also have bat boxes on the park.

So we get to be spirits, butterflies, and bats.

So this is a uh was requested by uh council member Gaddis.

Uh that we speak with Courtney Veneer, who's on our staff uh on some of the days for the Rodham Creek Trail Project.

Uh we did speak with Courtney.

Um she mentioned the trailhead, so the the trail project is permanent away and a trailhead planned on Franklin Gateway, uh, right near the sports complex.

Um this a picture of what that kind of like.

Um plans uh include a bench and trash cans on the trail.

So uh this project might add initial amenities above and beyond that.

Um so this would be 153,375 project, and that would include adding a pavilion, bike racks, service station, drinking fountain, and rest of the offset on that side would be that a restroom uh facility, and if you want to do that, that would add 140,000 to that uh to that total price.

Um I do want to point out that the Rhine Creek Rider Way Creek Trail currently has uh includes a paved trail that leads from the trail uh into front of the airway sports complex.

Uh that could change, but at this point that's this that's in the plans.

Um if that were uh remained um from the traffic start to the roosters as the amount of sport compart complex um would be a would be about a thousand uh feet long uh to there.

So you can you can do that with anyway, and that concludes our uh project list, and again, this was just great by staff as direct and uh for your special purposes.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate you for it.

Yes, sir.

Um Carl, I didn't hear where is that along with strips, like turn stream, north park, south park, all the households have autofficial.

So I think if it's not in a park, that would be part of this, correct?

It's not a public park.

I was calling park's career.

Property bank change.

Yeah.

Mr.

Ch Mr.

Chair Mask has a few questions.

Sure.

Um so for the first category, I think the worksheet includes the the first state law, the limit limitations we have on what we can do for the capital trends in juice crates.

We've made sure for all these is have most of them I think probably fall in the last category, correct, Mr.

Flag.

Correct.

Yeah.

Um fucking needs have been um as long as we've got a nose by small facilities, which is not that one instead, right?

So the drillheads are with the last they would definitely fall into the last record.

Um if not understood.

Okay.

Um last question I have for the uh for the funds, it has to be spent within the city or fairly close to the city, or is it just within the city?

Okay, no, no, no, just within the city limits.

It's uh and that's all just uh make sure that within the within uh the flag department.

Um parts of it happen within the city, like the mark uh march begins, I think within the city.

But the actual things within uh Castle Mountain battlefield, so we just want to make sure that what we're doing is still parked within.

Um flags as well as the classical flags.

So just want to make sure we're good on that.

Yeah, thank you for your question.

I'd ask council on that.

I mean, this is supporting a community organization that is drawing a lot of people to the city, which I guess the part typically would not be the city, but within the city, so advice on that council.

Councilman Watters, I'd have to say you ask us to take a look at the framework and this has enough latitude for us to go at a later date to drill into a specific project, but I wholeheartedly in favor of this free route.

Thank you for putting that again.

Thank you.

I think the park is a deep factor in the city because they're the there's a royal net count.

Is that a court ruling or should that uh for annexation law you can jump a public right of way or the public property is considered inside the city?

That makes them naturally pretty strong, right?

So if you got board, yeah, so it's really with that interpretation, then yes.

Okay.

So it's maybe it's more so I want to make sure we're protected since we take this, we can do that as we come through with this.

Um other quick questions.

With this curve for you.

Um what we would have to do is take all of these instruments that uh the council decided to do, and then we'd have to supplement them with the contract.

So it's someone uh so what affect the contract would have this could be search currently.

Well, it's not gonna oh I get where you're going.

Yeah.

Um yes, it would uh be an attachment to the existing contract, so if you have disclosures, there's some tourism disclosures we won't have to apply for this item three.

I'll just have another be made on that.

Thank you.

Well, but the deadly market over relation or we've made a lot what job deal is in the last six months.

We wouldn't do that every time, but I don't know that it had to be.

The day about whatever you're calling the day and that marketed organization.

Or could have second contract to make dispersion.

We can look at that.

We don't have to do it that way.

Mr.

Gaddis, can you repeat what they said?

Because you're the only person I can apparently hear.

Sorry about that.

A lot of discussion about uh disclosures.

And uh amendments to grants and funding employment tourism.

Uh this this funding affecting the distance party organization and how funding works.

Okay, I don't think this has to go through the DMO, is my understanding.

Is that correct?

Um, city manager.

We're gonna have to look into that.

Uh we have been operating as if we do run it through that in the past, but it's a very good point that we may not have to do that.

So we're gonna look at that and we'll have it by uh your next meeting.

Okay.

So can we move forward with this framework?

Um ask for the committee to approve this, and then we'll review anything that needs to be done and then have discussion at this council meeting.

So we just want to move it to be attended work session.

Correct.

Okay, so I'll make a motion to move it forward for the discussion and agenda work session.

Thank you, sir.

Do we have a second?

No second.

Thank you, Mr.

Anderson.

All in favor?

No.

Oh wait, this comment first, it's all members.

Okay.

That motion does take it.

Yeah, well, we we can.

We can take it.

This is just moving the framework forward.

It has nothing to do with any specific project that was included in the presentation tonight.

That was just for presentation purposes only.

That's all that was important.

Mr.

Jason had make a comment on that.

Um I think the framework is just parks towards the capital improvements, that line, and then the field of flags at USA to support that line.

Just the very general ideas right now and not specific projects within it.

This is all that's gonna go forward.

So generally money department.

And that's just the framework.

We still got to decide because if I total these correctly, which I'm sure I didn't because it was bad.

Um like a million two with the projects.

So we've got more than what we're saying we can move forward, so it's just kind of deep and teaching ideas.

Is that correct, Jason?

And Eric.

That is correct.

It's just the two buckets.

That's all we're moving forward.

We're approving the flags, and we're moving the other to this.

We're putting this in the parks, and that's what we're doing, and then the part we're gonna have continual conversations on where to allocate the park stocks.

That's correct.

But I am a hundred percent with you, Mr.

Mayor, in terms of taking out the skate part because and further discussion.

We don't need to put it on there because we need to allocate the county money and splots appropriately.

So then we have a motion second, and we all I think we voted already, right?

All right, all in favor.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Motion carries.

Committee's adjourned.

Regular meeting minutes of January 27th, 2026.

Okay, the motion and second is properly made.

Hearing non questions call all vapor, please raise your right hand.

Motion carries 3-0.

Next item is this is unexpired contracts.

I'm gonna leave this video to you.

We have various contracts that have been signed before the new council came to place and uh this contract are put before the council is one uh to point out the contracts that are there, also the council can then consider those to fall and uh contracts were before there's one there's one revision regarding the contract with 643 DP athletics that was left off there to go to some question, Mr.

Chair.

Yes, ma'am.

We're just approving this list of contracts, not really what's in the contracts.

Correct, it's just it's basically uh an opportunity for the council to review what the previous council put in place, and if you wanted to pull any of them off, you could uh but otherwise it's just saying yes, we get the grant authority to go ahead with these things.

So this is the problem that I had when we did this contract, and I probably voted against it.

Um what about so I have a problem with the one with the hospital on the way finding where we allow them to put it on the pavement?

Right because it's not being kept up.

But I thought that was in the contract that that would happen.

And it is not happening.

You could pull that out.

I mean, I don't want to get into it with the hospital.

They're not keeping up their end.

Uh 58.

Probably contract 4852.

That one, I think it might be 5178.

We allowed them to put up right 51 to signs and also to paint on the pavement.

Obviously, after all this time, they're five years in, they're just being rolled over.

That's hard to even say.

Okay, so contract 5178 request to pull that to for uh more full presentation.

Um probably at the agenda work sessions probably or would you prefer what you need to uh just get you in the timing of the contract?

The agenda work session is fine, and again, it really is just I believe that in the contract, one of the things we put was that there would be a keep in that at this point as far as I'm aware of happening.

It's not that I want to get rid of the contract of not saying that.

I can say that it's not being their obligations for not being full.

That law firm is changed, and I use it first and all the point on the first page uh 45 seconds right now.

So for coming 45 seconds and underpinch.

Um everyone had time to review review the list of contracts or is there anyone that's outside the one already identified that you might try and pull out for a further discussion?

We changed it in December, then January, and now it's gonna change again.

Yeah, whatever.

They uh it is gonna change at a later date.

Um there they're temporary we didn't enforce it.

Okay, is that on this list?

I'll have to check and see if there's two.

That is what that might not get.

Okay.

It's a temporary construction basement, but it's a different one year.

That should be different.

Yeah, no, I think we can shut the towel.

Or grab it.

We need to send a notice for the weeks.

I think that was within the item within the item that you decided that was correct, Mr.

I think.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um, I guess part of the reason is because at the end of the term uh a council cannot bind for the future council without the council's permission, the future council permission.

Since we're now the future council for a lot of all these contracts, we're just saying that we agree we agree to be bound by the contracts previous councils had entered into slowing to make a review, making sure we're all good.

Unless there's one need to pull out, I'm not sure those are actually required on this one or the um just remote.

Um as far as the customer's services.

And so uh has gone over to uh multiple prices from the account of me.

Uh which one do you think anything's there?

Yeah, because that's the custodial services you apply to us, and I think it's no longer that as in January.

Okay.

So we can check that one also as soon as we didn't know.

Okay, so we have three so far three contracts is the that we have the what was the venture just to make sure we have the correct name going forward.

We have the principal one, the jurisprincipal one for getting the name change along forward for everyone we have the contract for.

And then the the uh revocable easement dealing with the signage 5178.

Are there any other contracts that need to be pulled?

Uh more particular cards.

Yeah, the one you don't mention is 5069, which is the one the mayor discussed about whether or not we need to review that that's why 643.

Uh 5069.

Um, and that one's and that was basically sure it's we were working in conjunction with the AG usement that is on the agenda for that one setting.

Right.

So we have four cop we have four contracts left this time.

Are there any other contracts that you think?

Yes, sir.

What about the world's door one?

Well sort of skin to a song.

So it's not the standing signs at all that problems.

We allow them to have numbers that they're not signed in our right-of-way.

Um it is really the paid improvement signed.

So we allow that also for them to mark what this one's.

Yeah, so we may have to look at which contract it is, because there's a couple of them that talk about weight finding and the like.

So we review the well-start contract to find the correct one and then bring them up before we bring all those up.

Is there any any other ones from the council?

If not, is there any motion regarding the contracts we've not discussed to ratify those contracts?

I make a motion to ratify the contracts with the exception of those that need to be pulled for further review.

Uh 4577, 5086, 5069, and then appropriate well saw contract.

That's correct.

With the other well store contracts one within ratification.

Is there a second?

Is that really forward?

It basically turns uh from a committee action, it turns into a recommendation full council to approve the motion recommended on a committee.

It's on the spelling file sheet, but not the should be item, okay.

So Stephanie and Doug and Bill, you got you about all that?

Yes.

Um it's just any of those contracts that are not being uh not being ratified, but that was good push does get put on the agenda work session for review.

So they're not forgotten right.

Okay.

And uh that's a request by Mr.

Chairman.

Okay, for that to be added to the work session.

Okay.

Is there any further discussion on the on this motion?

Everyone understand, sir.

What they're gonna remember with.

She should show that women is not over here.

That is correct.

If there is an intergovernment of the new members.

So one thing the term of council will does not apply to these per governmental contracts.

So that it wants between like our 49 agreement arrest.

Service liberty strategy agreement with the county.

Um the Georgia Constitution allows us to enter into those contracts for a certain period of time.

And that is going to go beyond the 12th council.

So it's only once controlled by the next council without having to go through ratification processes.

Is that the perfect selection?

Yes, or that's correct.

And then Rodio doesn't bill would extend it.

Um I don't know.

We'll have to ask them if you want.

I believe it's for most the utility provision uh contracts are the money.

Um I don't remember the exact bill number and project council.

Okay, you're telling you about betting the contract that will sound section.

I don't have to do it's been a bill of the BXP4 as well.

I think it's one is sponsored by uh representative or at least goes on.

I don't think you mentioned that at all, but it's an impact of here.

Okay.

So everyone understand, if we're good.

Hearing no further discussion, the question is called all those in favor of the questions ratify the contract attempt to listen to this list.

There's one thing listening going to the work session.

All in favor of journey is right hand.

Motion passes 3-0.

Is this motion right for consent or something like that?

Hearing no objection, it is brought consent.

Adoption of the 2026 rules and procedures of council.

Um you have the package there's a good version that we can run as well.

You know, you've got now both.

It looks like some of the treaties were using adopted content.

Or think that finished the previous council.

Right.

So we have a couple of things.

Uh we can begin without a motion for it.

Now I'll just go into the session and we'll go to the motion amendment.

So if you have if you have any discussion points, um you have four.

First page, article one B.

Article.

One, it's a very long remote meetings, and two, because we use it.

The city council welcomes visitors to council meetings.

It is eager to hear any person or persons desiring to appear before the council on comments.

That pertain to the city.

So we we want to hear them on comments or on matters, issues.

We want to hear their comments on comments.

Make any sense to me.

Um, Ron, somebody just correct me.

English is my second language.

Article one, paragraph B.

Um next thing is just a typing thing, and that is move D and E over, because it appears that it's meant to be a definition and they're not.

So move them over to that end.

Um I jump them back to that.

Um Article 2, rules of procedure to address the council.

Persons wishing to address the council shall do so during the scheduler and schedule appearance portion near the beginning and the conclusion of the agenda.

Specifically, immediately before the consent agenda, and immediately before mayor and council comments.

That is not how that scheduled is.

Okay.

So we kind of need to clean that up because that's not where our schedule ends up, as we know.

Um page two, just a grammatical thing, I guess.

Um it's in the red part at the top.

It's number two.

Yes, above number two.

So it's three lines above number two, isn't that a fact?

It says as the topic of the speaker is not an agenda item, no discussion or response from the council is required.

I think that should be if the topic of the speaker is not an agenda item.

Then we say if the speaker speaks to an item on consent agenda.

So I think that needs to be if not as.

That line is that line's in there, but the thing about the consent agenda was not the uh previous council.

Right.

That's why it's in red, right?

Well, uh the red lines rules and even earlier version of the case.

Okay.

I just think it just needs to be if the topic, as opposed to as the topic.

That said, I personally have an issue with the last sentence that says if the speaker speaks to an item on consent agenda, the said consent agenda item shall be removed from the consent agenda.

I don't think that should be a shall because if somebody gets up and says, I don't like the consent agenda, the fact that you're not doing all this in the public eye.

Everything comes out of the consent agenda, but spoken to every item.

And I'm not sure that that should be a shall.

I think it should be a May.

For me, I think that's the reason why it probably the line was not included in the previous council's rules of procedure.

Okay.

The next is item two, unscheduled appearances.

Um it says the speakers are allowed to address the council in each regular meeting for a maximum combined time of 30 minutes per designated unscheduled appearance agenda items.

I think there's a period missing.

I think it should be after unscheduled appearance.

I think it should be for a combined time of 30 minutes per designated unscheduled periods, period.

Agenda items for the designated unscheduled.

Maybe it should be after agenda.

I don't know.

Uh it's an unclear sentence that has no punctuation.

Show the background doesn't really jump on changing or parenting.

Yeah, but that maybe what's the year.

No, no, that's going to do that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think so.

Can we fill that out?

We also have a problem with the top half and the bottom half of this, because the top half says for maximum combined time of 30 minutes.

If you go down about eight lines, each speaker will be allocated a maximum five minutes for their presentation for a cumulative time of 20 minutes.

Yes, that doesn't understand the previous thing.

When looking at this previously, it does make sure that's a matchup with first code.

Um, okay, let's see.

Okay.

So then look at number four, same page, just down to.

Um again, I think that there's just a punctuation missing.

If appropriate, a written response to each speaker will be provided by the appropriate city staff and lists, usually within 30 days, or they may be directed to the appropriate city official to be addressed the city council as I think there needs to be a period after addressed, and then the city council has asked to respond verbally.

Yeah, period probably isn't even there.

Okay.

Um just in red.

And it says the chair of a council/slash committee meeting may allow a member to speak, but this is under two, which every other part of two deals with our regular meeting, not committee meetings, and other than the definition section in the first article, we don't talk about committees until right then, and then we just throw this in.

I think maybe we need to have the one about committee meetings separately.

It's public.

Okay.

So that would be an additional article that's probably going to refer back to a logically the article two, but what will article two does?

Right.

It it just seems to me not to fit there because we just kind of jumped over from being in the council meeting to a committee meeting.

And there is a more expansive key under previous council's rules, which reads the chair of a council slash committee meeting, they additionally allow a member of the public to speak from time to time on a specific issue at the discretion of the chair with general non-vote consensus of the council and commit uh committees for the maximum of three minutes per speaker, unless time is extended by the chair with the consent of the council slash committee.

Otherwise, some special appearances shall follow the general rules of these article two provisions, and the event speakers shall take the imposing opposing sides of an issue, an equal number of opposing speakers shall be allowed on each side of an issue up to a total of four speakers, which would have which would be three speakers on each side of an issue.

And where is that?

That's under the corporate.

We have to oh, it's under this one.

Okay, but not in that.

And while we're working off of the set.

So we just kind of went from council meetings to council committee, and I just think we need to separate that out.

I'll continue on.

Um Article 3, number two, which let me go forward and come back to that.

Um if you look at number seven under A, regular agenda.

Number seven says as each case is called all witnesses for the applicant, then all opponents should first be sworn in.

So there are both witnesses for the applicant and opponent.

So now let's go back up to number two, where it says both the applicant and opposition shall have equal time.

I think that needs to say applicant to include witnesses for the applicant.

Or where does their time count?

Because the opposition gets 15 minutes, the applicant gets 15 minutes.

The applicant doesn't give up any time to witnesses or people in favor of that they are without any time.

So if you have the each item has 15 minutes each on that, it would have to have to be separate to the applicant, giving up time to lower.

And that's why that the applicant also needs to understand that it includes any witnesses.

So I think it should be both the applicant to include witnesses for the applicant.

Okay, I was for sure.

However, we're going to do that.

So eight.

Under Article 3.

Right.

So now 3A5.

The city attorney shall be responsible for conducting a public hearing, keeping time, and ministering the oath to a speaker.

That needs to say if necessary.

And if you've already said that you don't feel the need to do that to everybody.

So we need to add in if necessary.

I I don't see why that isn't the case.

Otherwise, you're saying to the applicant that you've got to give up some of your time for people, you don't even know if they're gonna speak.

Because maybe if people who are forced something need to have 15 minutes, people are against me.

And if they don't use their time, they don't use their time.

But to only give applicant and opposition, you're saying to the applicant, you've got to use up your time, which may take away his right to rebuttal.

Because audience 15 minutes and four people want to just get up and say, hey, I'm really for that.

You're using up your time.

And you can't even rebutton.

Yeah.

The problem is the fact that it's trying to get equal time for both both both sides overall.

The applicant is clearly going to be for the app for the proposal on that.

So the public hearing is then making the presentation as well.

So that's 15 minutes.

The application document is 15 minutes.

I think people who are in support of something said to have equal voice to say we want this.

And the applicants point versus meet for the opposition.

So that that's where that's where the rub comes in will be.

Well that's a tough line to draw.

Um and when the advocate jumped in, you usually normally have people line up and you don't sleep for it.

And many times I asked me is the opposition.

Right.

And there's a thing for 15 minutes, then I'm not sure how the public is gonna not just all that in one public hearing, one resulting hearing.

I'll do it over here.

I guess I just feel like if you say to people and we have had people stand up and say I'd like to speak in support of this.

And they are eating up the applicant's time.

And the applicant may or may not realize that their time can be taken by people who just want to get up and say in support, and we need to hear when people are in support of something.

The longest we're gonna have though is that sure that's zoning law.

So this is something we're doing for doing the state law into quasi judicial.

So um with um with with that hearing we see you make sure that we're still following state law and I'm which we're gonna have to make sure that we're I think it's an advocate.

You can talk inside the side.

Yeah, the applicant pretty clearly ought to be for what they're trying to ask.

I'm not worried about the applicant, I'm worried about people who have ought to speak for and they get up, and are we telling them in the opposition time, or are we telling them in the applicant time?

It can't be the opposition time because I think that's what we're kind of doing.

Many times we don't know until people stand up and say they're for it or against it.

And I think we're like, and I I think that we have to look at that, and even if we have to change, so our applicants are aware that their time includes time from witnesses in support.

So the applicant is aware.

If you're the the applicant and you've mapped out what would you want to say, and you're saying I'm going to retain five minutes of my time for rebuttal, and then someone gets up and want to say that I'm in support, and they want to give a long reason why they're in support, your five minutes, you're gone.

Yeah.

So it's for my measure.

Yes.

What do I do?

Red their pocketbook.

You're talking about quality of life.

I mean, that's they have to run into different.

What did I have the right to use my property?

That's a direction lab.

And the board is a game.

They're very job about using different answers.

Uh they're not right.

Um if we're splitting it just if we're splitting into three groups, some I can't say that.

Um my worry about splinter three group is three groups.

Three groups is whether law see whether the state law would see it as three groups or only see it as two groups.

So my question kind of to Doug in this class before you adopt the rules is what is the state law say regarding the for and against and having members of the public speak for a project.

But uh how does that how is that handled?

State law 500%.

We have to have three categories to the distance, you have to have a public hearing and get everyone the right to speak.

So dividing this into three categories, but I'll say in that one if that's what you want to do.

I'm not sure that's necessarily three, but I think that if nothing else, the applicant needs to be made aware that and do you know do we still have people sign in to speak or do we just, but a lot of people don't.

Yeah, so again, we we won't even know.

And if he uses up his 15 minutes, let's say the applicant gets up and uses 14 minutes, if he's not a lawyer not giving rebuttal, then a witness comes up and says, I want to speak for, and we say you get one minute, that's all that's left.

And I was like, wait, everybody else got five minutes, why do I get one?

I think it needs to be made clear that the applicant and those in support get the 15, and the opposition gets 15.

It just needs to be clear to people.

So if they're going to speak, or if the applicant knows that you only get 15 minutes as other people speaking, we just need to make it clear, and I'm not sure it's clear, and these rules are definitely not clear.

Okay.

Sounds like I'm probably sounds like you and I are probably saying.

Yeah, we just got to look at how we're gonna do that.

So I guess that's my concern.

I've got I think I have one more.

Um I have two more.

Um I think I already said it at number seven.

S each case is called all witnesses for the applicant, and all opponents shall first be sworn prior to make we need to say as necessary again.

If necessary.

If necessary, because we don't do that.

Um and then my last thing is on the consent agenda, which is on the third page under Article 3 B, consent agenda.

Number three says if an item's on the consent agenda and somebody wants to speak against the pass through the item, the item shall be pulled from the consent agenda.

Shall I think it needs to be made?

Yeah.

Probably just probably went back to whatever we had.

We have public hearings on every public consider that because back then if you saw someone was thinking against something generally generally public counseling, you think they pull it off.

Okay, so is that my those are my comments, questions on the stack?

Yeah, so that one yeah, because that one probably should have been public hearing items.

So uh shall be pulled and sent me putting maybe pulled by the request in any council, any of them, any elected on the city council, policy council ready.

Oh, I say no, sure it doesn't.

A lot of people actually use all that talking.

To their doctor, but again, you have to have your word about to make sure that it won't happen to shake it down.

So we'll get some microdooder neighborhoods.

So you know what we've got to pass.

Make sure you had those things that board.

So state law says uh decision for pre okay.

An opinion by proponents, proponents of each zoning decision, and an equal minimum time period for presentation by upholdings of each proposed voting decision.

Okay.

So then the applicant just needs to be made aware that their applicant and people who are witnesses when we're talking about public hearings need to be made aware that it's fifteen minutes for applicant and those in support versus opponent.

It's 15, or whatever tab we decide.

Right.

So it's whatever time we decide, but we need to kind of make it in our announcement of the public hearing.

Yeah, and within the rules.

And within the rules, then those times are equal.

Okay.

Yes.

Yeah.

First upon it understandable.

It seems like those are the two categories.

Yeah.

Proponents necessarily not is that yes.

Right.

Right.

Um we're gonna need to just figure this out, I don't think.

And we have to have these by May, by March.

March.

Yeah, by the mark by the end of the March regular council meeting.

Otherwise, we just get respectful whatever the balls work for.

Can I see that they need some more to the minutes?

Um actually marked in March when you say by the end of March.

I don't know.

But I don't imagine it's council picked twice council.

Go in effect for 30 days, and then you'll go to that place.

Okay, so it might it might be just this might require more complete work than if we just keep with the keep with the current rules and procedures until we get until we get optimal's fully adopted.

Does that make sense everyone?

Exactly by getting more away.

Um I I think I mean, Ted, I guess you need to work on this, so um right now this is just my opinion.

Does anybody else, I mean, have a thought about any of this?

I have some thoughts as well, but I'll wait.

I'm gonna wait to see if any other members of the committee are coming to still work on the um one second Stephanie.

That's what I was worried about.

So we still could approve it and then amend it.

The connections we can't amend it, right?

Or you could just wear it off for discussion.

We're on agenda for discussion and then table.

Okay, it's wrong.

It's in the 040 section, so uh should we should be saying that you'd do it.

See, basically it's within the rules of procedure section.

Basically, to uh amend it, we would have to have unanimous consent after that point.

I believe because that's amended because it's within the rules of procedures section of council that we'll get this.

We could amend that.

Let's amend that first, and then amend this.

Yeah, we don't we have to we'd have to amend probably this code section, just make it clear to me.

You can admit something post that, but the pre-green's rules are in effect until until the amendment's passed.

I agree.

Uh I think we spent 45 minutes.

So far, I've noticed maybe at least attack something to make progress on this.

So all this time that we spent is not in.

Yeah, I mean, you can we all agree that it's grammatical period.

Yeah, the grammatical stuff definitely needs to happen.

Some of the stuff went on from some ideological problems.

That was something to most of the concern.

But most of grammatical or something that seemed to have been it pretty well unanimous or not.

I don't want to make the managers that clean it up, so clean it up and have it on the uh agenda work selection.

Okay, and then vote on it to go to the Wednesday council week.

Okay.

Okay.

I do have one, I'd have a few things, and does anyone else have anything else to add before we start moving this on forward?

The agenda work session.

Okay.

Umside of the one, outside of the stuff to show.

Going back to Article Two A1.

The uh as Cheryl said, it's one of the I think it probably should still say as the topic of the speaker's on agenda item.

Because you can speak to any anything item or not.

No discussion or response in council council is required.

I would say no discussion or response from council is required or should be expected.

Yeah.

It's not required and they shouldn't expect us to respond to anything that they're talking about, I think back to that time from the from uh from the schedule's catching appearance.

Okay.

That's yeah.

So that's the reason why I said should not be expected for us to respond to it.

It's just yeah, no discussion response from council is required or should be expected.

I don't want to think business monster better expectations.

I don't care if they expect us to respond or not.

That's not necessarily.

And it does say nothing.

Sorry, right.

Down in number four, it does say, if appropriate a written response, will be provided by the appropriate city staff.

Where they may be directed to the appropriate city official to have an item address.

So we don't kind of say we will respond just sometimes 30 days.

Yeah.

Well, it's a setting up.

Um, like two grammatical thing, get rid of that open friends because there is no closed parents, it makes no sense.

The uh okay, the public is the last sentence of two.

The public session will be adjourned upon 30 minutes being exhausted or no further speakers sends forward before the end of the 30 minutes.

Um for this public session, I might be better to say this portion of its schedule appearance or something like that, since we're dealing with that's kind of appearance part of this at this point.

And then we'll be adjourned upon 30 minutes being exhausted, subject to extension for the interviews, since the very next thing three allows for extension for both and where we could extend time for either speaker overall.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

But I think the bottom is making some.

We have a lot of good papers that could make very wrongly.

And then we could have water two days to pick one and they were out of time.

Just one go wrong at one time, but the paper.

Yeah, we're charged in one should.

I I think we could put it in a traditional.

But I think I I guess I'm just concerned that what's in Nexus?

I mean, is it the people that are in?

Everybody who has an electric bill.

Everybody's a water bill.

Anybody is near Bellsbury?

I mean, my concern is what's next.

Now I can understand that if it's, you know, there's gonna be a housing development moving in your neighborhood than what we have to cover to Lights.

That makes sense, but on some of the things that we have public hearings on, I'm not sure.

I don't have to remember the one that would keep Carlisle's house.

Remember, we allowed him to keep that substandard size house, and Andy was very upset about that.

And he was like, he was like, what if this was in your ward?

So is the Nexus just the people nearby, or other neighborhoods that this could affect?

I'm just concerned about how we're gonna define Nexus we have an extension of the movie here, right?

We can use time.

Yeah, we could extend we could extend time because we extend it it's extended equally for both for both sides.

So um uh sorry that that's uh difference function case.

We can allow speakers, but not all I've done, not having a lot better possibly, or the ones with or might have more effect.

What should we have?

Maybe already make more fish because they're not representing the whole shit.

I agree.

I I I totally agree, and sometimes they're very reticent to come up and speak up there.

I was told that I don't stick to the microphone so I can I agree, but there's sometimes people are very reticent to come up and speak, and so the 15 minute gets taken, and then they finally like and speak.

And now their time is taken, but if we said that it's for people who have a nexus, what if they are one of those people?

So then at that point do we extend it.

Because they were sitting back to what I was like, I'm not gonna speak.

Okay.

I'm not and then they can still can't gotta speak.

Now you're touched on because people who had a general feeling about it got up to speak, though they were not directly affected.

And so I'm not sure how we figure out next, but I do agree.

Yeah, I do agree.

You know, it's it's a bridge of building.

If you weren't here for that discussion, it's uh zero.

Yeah, it's what's one of those one of those is probably that's probably where using the extension part of the rules probably want to hear about our best way to make sure that we get those are probably most effective in case they didn't talk to the trace.

We better provision that's about it.

Yeah, absolutely.

We we over half that.

Right.

No.

Oh, yeah.

There's a new back size to use all the time, but we'd have to be extended.

And please try it to create the time to keep the most directly affected or something like that.

Um as far as doing anything more that might be restricted, I think we should do or even can do.

No, they were probably not big over the memory.

Yes.

Um the uh one other point that wasn't brought up, but uh does it say the city attorney uh shall be responsible for conducting as necessary if the city attorney happens to this maybe is designed.

Okay, what's that before you need to add city attorney or sitting for the city attorney saying we're just for a district meeting or something like that?

With the presentation.

Okay, there it is.

Still preferring to say such item may be placed in the consent, even if it's on the bureau practice because we'll just have one objection for regarding the on the public hearing side.

What was that on to that?

It said it shall not just say may.

Oh, okay.

But doesn't mean it's ever going to be used because we know this always won't be at least one objection.

Um other than that, I think you can I think you covered all the points on the four books.

Um thing that actually speaking get uh C one is like the fish with twice by our question to me.

This is not a question and answer that in the usual.

I think it's it's it's already in here.

Questions and answers is that's fine.

Question council can have not that one.

Yeah, it's in here.

No applause.

Or divide your cut.

Yeah.

It it is actually in here until I read it, but I can't find it right now.

Specifically says that it is not the question and answer period.

Okay.

Article two.

Okay, so here it is.

Um it is Article 2D.

Top of the third page.

Questions from the mayor council may be asked for clarification chairs and recognize council members for questions or comments.

They may we shall ask.

However, no person shall be permitted to enter into any discussion with personal dialogue either directly or through a member of the council called in the Senate.

Oh, okay.

Fecond line schedule and then schedule appearances and hearings are not meant to be a question and answer format and shall not be allowed to occur by the presiding elected official.

Next member for the chair of the channel.

Oh, for me.

Staff, you've heard that you've heard the discussion, the various things start incorporating on it for review.

Is there a motion to move this forward to get the work session?

So move by Councilmember Kent, seconded by Councilmember Richardson.

Further discussion on time.

Hearing that questions called all those in favor, please raise your hand.

The motion passes three hours to forwards the to the work session for the discussion.

Next item of business is the legislative update.

This is simply a list of all the bills that I've been tracking.

There's probably a few on here that need to be added because everything's changing so quickly.

And so there's long-term contracts for sale of electrical power.

The addition has been added into that bill would be the ability to do a 20-year contract, provided it is approved by Security Force.

So I think that's the bill that we were talking about, Mr.

Megan.

What I've done is just created a list, broken it down kind of by category.

But I did highlight a few in bold that we can certainly talk about a lot of bills in the economic development section.

There's something maybe more as concerning, but you should at least be aware of.

So there are a lot of bills related to annexation.

There are some changes in the annexation.

There are a lot of things that go about certain bills related to residents being able to vote not to be annexed.

There are also bills in there about having to have county approval to municipality want to annex property.

So that would have to happen first as opposed to the way that process works now.

A bill that I did not actually put in here, but there's another bill that recently takes two House Bill 812.

An A12 would preempt to some degree the municipality's ability to be stricter than what is recommended by the state.

So everything would have to be improved by DCA.

Um if the municipality wanted to go stricter, it would have to actually take a public vote to be stricter to what DC one.

Oh, I don't know what you want.

So local amendments to state building codes.

So that is a bill that is something that needs to be interviewed by someone address things going forward to like our foresight architecture, which is not a requirement, but a stricter than state.

They're not going to affect that because we've already got that in.

I do not believe so.

I think it would be anything for going forward, which is zoned.

But I'm I'm not sure what the stricter means.

Yeah, so we've been busy talking about our Senate Bill 437 and Senate Bill 447, those effects.

Things like shot clocks on permits and how long we would have to review things.

Yeah, so the uh thing we've been busy talking about are Senate Bill 437 and Senate Bill 447 those effects, things like shot clocks um on permits um and how long we would have to review things, and it would also allow for private uh permit permanent process according to their interpretation of equipment so things like that Mark is well aware and I know some of the currents that keep participants and I'm paying attention to these bills.

So I think some of the other bills that we should really talk about are there's a house resolution and companion bill related to the way uh revenues are one six, and so they would essentially over time eliminate uh property tax um is very specific how they would do it.

Um this is something that would have to be amended by constitutional maybe it's approved in order to go building just gonna be a referendum and they'd have to approve that.

So there are a lot of discussions about income tax and property tax in this session and this these types of things related to both of those were pretty high priorities.

One really kind of stipping out of the Senate, which is more the income tax, and then the property tax is really coming out of the house when there is a lot of momentum behind both the uh interesting to see if both either bills make it through different chambers and then crossover and helping you know the complimentary to addresses those isn't it um it would really replay the bill that we're talking about here with the house resolution eventually.

The end is to get rid of the property taxes we do and we move towards sales tax in place with the list.

I don't know if you want to make any comments from the groups that you've been talking to, or well, it's just uh there was initially a lot of effort funding to try to get rid of uh I think of tax, and uh then uh just they figured out it's half of their revenue until they exist to figure out you know how to deal with that was pretty rough.

Um may do some uh movement in that direction, but I don't think it would be a good route at all uh without some other taxes I'll have to put in place, but it's easier for them to say, no, we're gonna do something with the property tax uh and then force municipalities to have to go in and impose sales teams.

So um that's kind of where it's headed right now with the discussion.

Try to deal with the maximum amount of sales tax than some accountants are allowed to have because they do have uh do some things that we don't have in there.

So they would have to change the law on that.

But uh, yeah, the the going thing is to say that um certainly house perimet for even ever sending up or lowered the control property tax by place at the top or the sales tax and around so we can do that, and it's not stable at all.

We don't know what's going to happen with the colour worlds, and so it's different than your property tax, which you know where it is, and it's we don't have um our property taxes which frozen uh once you own a piece of property.

So we're we're the example that shows how it can be done.

And uh this thing really basically solved.

So it's you talked about how if they got rid of the property tax, then the sales tax or whatever would be split, I mean isn't gonna be just what we go through with SDS.

Where it goes to the county, they take off their trunk and then try to figure out how to split it between seven cities.

It doesn't sound like way.

It sounds like they would just be a maximum value that you can put me up to the cities and the county at all to it, but um it's moving all over the place right now, and they're trying to there was a bill, I think we mentioned it before things dropped because of all this stuff that's going on.

Um each uh government, state government supposedly have to go with it, and all the tax and we have to use every service broad and then every olive car, the uh individual taxpayer can decide they don't want to pay for a police or don't want to pay.

Um think that'll pass, but that was uh these discussions are going on as everybody's getting up a little bit um interested in what's going on.

Uh they're throwing out stuff left and right to kind of swipe people one way or the other.

So that's 1333.

So 1333 is the one where yeah, they could effectively decide what they don't want to do for.

Um actually 1333 even goes a little further than what they'll want to be referring to, which is they could actually say that someone could say that they didn't want to pay for something that the city was paying for it.

So it doesn't necessarily even have to be a service, it could be something that we are procuring for operations that they don't support.

So it can be something very great, but I don't imagine that they would have a word tech passing, but because of what the CMS was talking about, and then with it being so contentious and even getting upset about whether we're going to eliminate property tax, income tax, reduce one or use the other as being an election now.

It's really just really uh passed the serves as a Senate just both.

So we'd question today.

You guys have functional might have thought, obviously, kind of kind of questions would definitely not be answered.

I don't have a call on this robot.

It would really look for such you wouldn't have a lot of government uh passed.

Yeah, just wondering just out of wondering is three percent still in there in 2032 referendum.

Yeah, it is for an ACS.

So it's called one six and um zooming off the firm version.

So think about it.

Um 1216.

I think that messages how we do hotel motel and auto rental delete.

Well you have to excise tax on rural lodges and accommodations that basically aspects part of the revenue rather than directly on this track, so then it's almost like they would audit before they would place it to us.

Is that still going to be done?

Well, it's still there, but uh, it hasn't really died.

I mean, there's no real action, but it's still it's still there.

So it is a third.

So uh I can come back and give you a better picture of where all this is at the end of the work session up that Monday night, because I hope that they'll be cut to Capitol on across every day.

Uh but there's so many moving parts, even though um some of the consultants that are talking to and some of the young birds that we talked to, we have like a there's a lot going on, and there are a lot of deals that haven't fully cut the light yet, and there are a lot of things that are just going on, so it's really hard to see to follow all of these things.

Um highlights or is this something that we should um take a look, take a look at and do it and definitely do it into work session?

Um we can do that.

Um councilwoman Richardson asked also for an update on set of bill 522, which is uh a fee on rental motor vehicles and how that works in our room to some bills for gonna be just a sort of through that uh in the power area we do have different ones that are being put forward down in the data centers.

With our contracts and the way we're operating on the one, which well, actually two, but uh moratoriums if those were to pass dependent on the fact management in our contract layer, but it could affect uh ground capital project.

They have to come back and actually side plan the new site planning uh for uh a new customer, and that maybe it's uh not having a program.

Maybe they could call it a moratorium.

Yeah, so the motor tax you know what do they call it would add a $5 per day fee to the customers for each calendar day since we have over into this.

But it says that it shall not apply with respect to temporary replacement motor vehicle.

So uh we collected at the time the customer pays for the retool when lease the rental higher book and select collecting fee, which will be on certainly above an all rental permission remit all rental fees collected in the prior levels of the department, which is uh the department of ready.

So that's the management.

But it doesn't say that revenue then provides it for local tourism, something that is state or something.

It's yeah, it says that it just says it should be made available and used exclusively for tourism purposes in this state.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yep.

Statewide consumers of tourists official state will end.

Um just a few others real quick.

Um 417 that would allow public employees to self-organize or be represented by a labor organization would park in collectively with the state.

So it does extend beyond just that, so it's a bill overwatching.

Um, and then we don't have a lot of bills in parks and rec.

Um, House Bill 1040 would prohibit smoking within a 25-foot radius of any state and local government buildings or close public places.

So that's all of those out there because there's a little bit of most of them.

And I think the city manager covered most of the data center bills.

There are a lot of very similar bills going on the second one in the house for all those areas, some related to moratoriums, other bills related to protecting customers from costs that are associated with data centers.

Um, these costs will not pass from the bank, which we're doing with fear.

Um there are a lot of things, a lot of bills are being proposed to change the way the public service commission hears things.

There's actually a bill that would create an office of consumers utility council, you know, so that they have back and forth struggle for this made the public service commission approach the public service commission themselves.

So there's definitely a lot of that.

Um I don't know if there are other bills that maybe you guys have tracked in our new list, you can give them to me tonight.

You can pick on to the other two for them.

If you guys would like the agenda workstation update, I'll make sure that it beyond the bill, the status of what it is, uh, who the sponsors are, and it's very frequently for the special design.

Yeah.

Um more more so than last year for sure.

So pretty much so they're revenue.

Should be engaged.

Right.

Okay.

Um, that's running select this back on back on for the 24 session.

Sure.

Next item of business is the computer communication system is a vision running teachers.

Yeah, so this is just what's a significant today and some recommended changes.

A lot of it is just kind of modernizing the language.

Um, and then there are a couple of sections that I would recommend because we're going to talk to the staff.

So there are a lot of old terms in here like Yahoo, AOL, AOL, instant message and things like that.

We just recommend that we chose those tools and things like collaboration technologies because we're not using those messages when we do this messaging and it does things like what news, teams, and things like that.

Those terms we also recommend that we don't allow employees to use certain resources or non-city technology.

And we wanted to clarify that because sometimes they could be using the different breaks at lunch that still accept that resource, not everybody is meeting from 12 to 1 or 11 to 12, so we just recommend that we kind of clarify when we say don't use it for non-missive data things that we could have just clarified that I think those breaks lunches, bunch breaks.

Um we also ask that we change some things like microcomputer, a lot of people more familiar with terms like Q point.

So we want to do it because terms who they are thinking shows it twice.

Um and then it really the largest changes are when you get to page seven.

We talk about the way users authenticate some of the networks and the way they sign in and verify who they are.

And if they're careful with the data when doing that, supposedly don't realize that they are they're not thinking about I'm not physically here and they may be a little looser with allowing people to see things.

I know most of our data is open, but there are things that we should uh allow other people to see.

Um so we want to make sure that they are making sure that nobody's viewing or overhearing things to show not.

And then lastly, on page 8, I've asked to put in a section related to a shadow ID, which is an older term, but a lot of people still don't know what that means where if employees have tools that they are using that we can't afford because it costs too much for the enterprise, but then maybe we have given a single version of it within the cloud subscription.

We would like to make that a prohibitive action.

So it needs to go through the city through the IT to verify that that tool and that data is secure and they're following our rules.

So you're not operating outside the technical controls that might go for them to stop and we want to permit them to do job done.

We just want to make sure that we're providing the right guidance and making sure we're typing those actions.

So those are the majority of the changes.

You had two add two notes, two or three notes in here.

The yeah, those are comments that I didn't correct them from one of my employees that we take on and they say that we read like.

So if we're we're already going on uh the lowercase keyverse capital city, you'll get on that.

And the thing about essential email, essential email.

Yeah, um we can add a definition for essential email.

Um we a couple of us didn't feel like it was necessary to really define with it, but we can if if you recommend they're giving it number four months.

Any opinion on that?

Um the uh you put on page three additional try to make it clear that it was uh break time.

Um this would apply even if it's not during work hours, not just work shifts.

If it's connected connected to the PC, the network connected PC green to connect to our network, basically.

And does that cover uh does that cover everything, or is that more streaming?

Is this now more um apply to less area than the original language?

Run a change in language in my unit code.

It is that code.

Um just note on page five.

There was a change of an editor's note on this one from the microcomputer to an endpoint there.

I'm not sure why we're changing it on the network.

Yeah, we we don't necessarily have to have kind of clarifying the so we can take that out.

I guess we can add that or to a slash endpoints and save it.

Better to probably add something on trying to place since this is now possible from previous thing.

Okay.

Um the uh page seven.

There was a change from uh the first the design being being from the security security officer to the I to the IT director.

What was the security option to the security officer is defined as the ID director?

So I can clean that up to make a one identical.

Yeah, just one way or the other, we're just trying to make sure that's that's cleaned up because right now you're using both the same paragraph.

If they're both the same job, always meant to be the same job.

I don't have any other compensation by comments when I enter the skill section.

One other thing I forgot to mention the other reason for the studio IT is because the information of artificial intelligence and people putting the everywhere, so that was the only reason for the reference to artificial intelligence, but I know eventually it could be something else.

The correct corrections are fairly minimal for the most part.

The only one that really stood out was the uh background computer versus an employee and in it.

I think all the rest were explained outside the net to the security officer is a fairly quick fix.

So it can go to the work session, or could with it basically fairly minor changes, could go all the way to the uh city council.

Um we have to fall in committee.

What do you think is appropriate?

Can we see to move forward to the C cancelling recommendation for it?

Okay.

This is the motion before the ones that agenda recommending approval with the changes as to us.

Is there any further discussion?

Carrying on all those dudes, raise your hand.

And passes 3.0 is a sprite for consent.

Thank you.

No object, no objection.

This is based on consent.

So I've walked the place with fun.

Um is this this year request that is what it's uh signal problems about it.

It's one of three homes, it's not required.

Um is there a step number that can answer that question?

Mm-hmm.

If there's three or less houses, uh do you have to put that one?

Three or less holes that's not putting the definition on the subdivision.

So they're lots of things that they would not have to comply with, but it's not meaningful definition of the same question.

That would be scary.

So I I wanted to see if that was the code to spend some of the same three and also run away from future.

You have to be careful when we file any edge.

So if you built a house that you didn't put it out.

So we'll add it right away.

Sometimes don't have the right.

So essentially the donation has been used in previous times, wherever there might be a variance for the to not they're required to put in a sidewalk.

But um asked not to.

That's sometimes used to the alternative.

They donate the right-of-way with sidewalk right then.

So that whenever we do have a project that they put in the sidewalk to put insidewalks, we already have the right-of-way acquisition.

So it wants to be better for that when you go on that street.

That's the thing that streets on this thing.

Those properties are projects already have sidewalk requirements for that reason.

So with regards to the lesson three node, you still discuss about that shouldn't apply.

I I I guess I think that what we need to do is look at our residential zoning and look at kind of the same thing about donation of right-of-way.

Um should give you a quick case of point.

Um gentlemen came in, he'd have an old house or some brazier.

He was going to keep that you wanted to add to that old house was so old that he took it down by exemption but put in two.

So that one house became two.

Well, then he figured out he had land without needing any permission to put a set.

Then two houses up, there was land that was bought, and two more houses went in there.

There are no sidewalks on this very small street, and it went from having four houses on it because now it has ten.

And there is nothing that restricted or put in any of that.

And again, it's not that I want to stop people from developing that that street.

Literally, it's each of those built would have had a because it was two year, two years less than three, had a requirement for a sidewalk or donation of right-away.

We now can put a sidewalk down that street that isn't gonna get one because none of those builders had a requirement to donate or do anything.

So I think that that though in our residential zoning needs to go in there, so to the mayor's point, you're not donating something on summit that ends or something on orange that ends up on summit.

I mean, you really want to keep it to where it is, so I think that we if we addressed it in our residential um zoning, it would be for that build, not for just a general fund that could be used somewhere else.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

It was built off.

So I won't be required.

When you cut off that back line, that automatically should never have to be a portable.

But if nobody could get no one for drug carrier cake, but it belongs to Jaric AI.

You shouldn't be showing until it doesn't go to the street.

That right for that.

Yeah, what happened if we do cut it off?

It was originally planted on a shame door.

Shape main fail.

And obviously, when a man could have gone with it.

We need to generation.

So for this displacement to come back with language that will require to donate the right way.

Yeah, well, what we can do is come up with some recommendations on adjustments, it sounds like to smaller developments, is what we're talking about here.

Um staff is also identified that for our larger developments and the required improvements.

The language has been thinking it says that what's all required, but it doesn't specifically say on both sides of the street in the development.

And oftentimes those are the discussions that we're having more in the planning stage, but just last night earlier this one's rather.

And so um, I guess to that end is what I'm hearing if we're exactly some research.

Um we can bring back some proposals and look at both of those issues from the consideration.

You know, if you do what we're gonna percent, probably should like those situations.

What are your benefits taking that?

Okay, we're doing 20% a year.

Nobody should have to go.

I mean the same thing.

So that's a trample three.

I think we all look at white mixed up there.

Yes, sir.

So you know that travel street.

The infill development ordinance that we have, you know, encouraging that uh is there a way to expand more requirements of sidewalk because you require it in areas like Ontario Street where we see it's more appropriate for the RFIL overlay to expand through.

So for the infill there is a provision where they need to donate right away to see you or build the sidewalk.

So we actually have that when it comes to the overlay, that's one of the kind of six appears depending on the side of the uh argument you're uh working off of.

So that's actually kind of an example.

It sounds like a bit where we want to investigate for some types of building.

Uh trackers will staff bring back an item related to the sidewalks.

Um traditional side of these in place.

We'll do next item is sword preservation commission guidelines.

Question is can we or is there any requirement?

Something about building first code about the about the punishment that they don't call surprisingly, I think I actually know the answer to that one.

So we essentially for the uh state law this law is based off of the certificate of approval appropriateness is all based off of state state law uh uh guidance that allowed us to adopt their a similar work uh similar ordinance.

It gave a violation provision that said that it's basically a viol a general general code violation, which I think is something like a year uh thousand dollars.

Or six or six months in jail two thousand dollars.

Um that was what's authorized by the state law for the particular thing, I believe, is based on the last sections of that particular code section.

Um I believe they can already probably ask about some of the stuff.

If it they can't ask about anything internal to the house, unless it's affecting the outside of that was affecting outside house seen from the right of way.

Um asking about the foundations is that can deal with demolition is probably something they should ask about.

Um if they don't get an answer, it could very well be they believe that it's going to affect that.

In fact, if they cause demolition, then assume it would make that assumption.

That becomes a full recommendation to say council for um the um other part of this too is just with uh staff on things as you get any permits that deal with these HPC areas that they need to make sure to go make sure double check all the requirement all the what's being passed what was passed is being followed.

If there's any expansion of that that's it's identified and set back to the HP C for bigger stuff.

Um I think it used to be a little tougher when uh the discussions build at the HPC.

That'd be something that would be within the purview of the HPC due to the external the possible external change there.

Award maybe not going to be saying it.

It has to be caught early.

So the question was HBC can require this would do one area in the second store.

Oh maybe to the list.

That all depends on what's allowed.

What's different state law?

Um I just need to pass the screen and double check on the scene if that's like can be added to the code.

Or we're just stuck with the language.

I also not sure that you always know.

I mean, sometimes you don't know until you hit the flickers and you know well, this isn't gonna work.

Um so they like this last case, they had a partial demolition.

Um order or permission for partial demolition.

They if they were putting the second story on, they knew that it was good.

It wasn't until they got into that, then they figured out that they needed more.

That's probably what they should I'm not sure that at the beginning until you actually get to it, you are sure what you're going to find.

Um an engineer letter might just be, yeah, this is gonna be good, but it may not be.

I'm not sure.

If you need to do demolition stability.

Which then also would send some needs in HPC.

Sure question if engineering firm actually comes out and come back to the inspection.

That's all the engineering firm.

You got up for that.

Um some engineering firms we we don't accept their letters because we know for a fact they never get out of their office.

So the big would have already there be grandpa.

Yes.

Okay, you're forced in.

Or you had to have another boat.

Yeah, but if I could coven it to run for the land, yes.

Okay.

I don't I don't have uh much interest in opening up these guidelines.

Um I represent four cells, part of four cells.

Um I think the most elegant and simple solution is to rearrange what what Bill talked about, which is federal city policy and reviewing it just when you when you have a certificate of appropriateness for partial demolition, and then the the building permit comes through and you see on there.

And then it's an automatic non-approval.

Send it back to HBC.

It's reinforcements.

In general, I agree with the uh a lot of the stuff's gonna rely on a lot of staff enforcement.

Um if it's in an HP C area, it's it's gotta get flagged, and that's gotta be just a little bit of extra screen for that.

Because the fact that it's had to go through a approval process for exterior changes.

If we need to.

And uh the thing would be it's probably encourage the HP C to ask some of those questions while going through the process as well.

Then they have really good full answers, and we have to prove what they can prove for that time.

But it might be with the caveat that something else is felt.

You gotta come back to us.

So it might just be a little bit of traction case we see pass the as the questions that's some plates to an exterior.

But just realize that's also taken a little bit.

Oh the process or the student work for the gotta do demolition.

I think they didn't want to have the stop work order.

Well, I think that's a good one.

I think it's just a language thing.

Like there's no such thing as a minor demolition or a major demolition.

But demolition demolition they did everything that they thought we're doing, and during the demo realized it wasn't gonna work.

This is what we have to do, and yeah, they got stop work order, technically I didn't know anything.

Wrong.

But I mean, if I'm a homeowner and buy a house in a historic, you know, you have to go in front of that ECC.

And I'm doing a small renovation.

Yeah, get into a wall and it's completely filled with turbine damage.

I mean, as a homeowner, I have every right to correct that.

I mean, if I have to go in front of the HP C I will, but I mean at the same time, if they're gonna put it back exterior the way it's supposed to be, I'd I I it kind of like interceptions a thousand different things that you can get in there and find and you know I don't know where you can start or stop one.

Just open it up crazy work and thinking recognizes it.

Whether a certain don't certain damage that's something that's an image to be done for placement on it with your point of the turbine damage.

Yep, I've been told as well.

But what point is the HBC is comeback toward probable.

No, so if it didn't result in a major demolition of the building, uh that would go to the HBC first, but then it would come over there.

Correct.

And I will say, just in some of the commentary is kind of on the HBC process.

They've actually had a discussion pretty similar to this about needing to flesh out some additional questions related to demolition.

What are we talking about?

Substantial line, all of those things.

And then they can catch that as well.

And once it needs a reset, it's on our radar to be uh extra control when it comes to permits that come in or flight's won't be supposed.

That's true, but I I mean I don't think this is a point problem.

We just went through it.

I don't think anybody was trying to slip out of the laws or the rules or anything that happened.

I don't think this is something that's happening every month and we're seeing it over and over again.

It's happened before, yes.

Um I have to give, but again, we have to address that internally when a permit gets pulled.

Um, and back to putting, you know, yeah, these are all just short codes or want to keep them, but what if a tornado comes down Kennesaw Avenue and knocks down every single house?

I mean, you're gonna rebuild it, you're gonna go in front of APC and give them your elevations rebuild it the way it was, are you not historic house anymore?

You know, like that happens, and where you drop one.

Okay.

Um at this time, sorry, further further discussion on this item.

Based on the session, I'll think of motion um is what we need.

So uh staff west.

And before we start on that one, do we have a disclosure related to that?

Um just as well as my the members of my family are entries and followed by members of the family of this property to William Scott Kinsey, and then I believe Williams Scott Kinsey has some business remote relationship with the Kency Holdings are in LLC.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Um as mentioned this is a request from Kinsey Holdings where it's an LLC, so Alexis and Scott Kinsey for proprietors of a number of different restaurants in the Marion Square area and outside and even outside of the city.

Um recently they have purchased the property at 29 West Park Square, which uh some many of you may remember this giving ways and makes it still on the square.

And so uh, in order to have their new concept, which is the West Park Sports Club, they came before HBR uh several months ago uh with a number of design requests in keeping with typical HBR approvals.

It was identified at that time, and then some of the things that they were asking for extended outside of HBR approval because they weren't necessarily related to simply the aesthetic of the structure, uh, but they impacted city right-of-way.

And so a couple of those requests are before you here tonight.

Um, one of which, and 70S is a file view.

Um, one of which are streamlines, uh, which they would like to put in between their building, and it would cross depot street, which is a common patio area, but also there's right of way for people to traverse from the square area to Atherton Square Park.

Um decorative feature keep scrolling down.

So as you can see, even in that image there, the string lights that are coming in off of the uh northern part of the West Park Sports Club building, they would have string lines that would go from there and connect with the adjacent building building on the opposite side of DBC, which is 33 in West Park Square.

And so they've acquired about that, and certainly that is something that impacts more than just somebody in setting up your building and then sort of character, but it crosses over scene right of away, which all of DBC is, uh including the area that they might be pursuing as an improvement here bear for um and so for that reason it's before you uh have worked with uh some number of city departments to determine challenges related to this uh stream lights, uh notably the fire department utilizes TPS to be just access, uh kind of secondary access in case there was a fire response even back in the Atherton Square area.

Notably the fire department utilizes TPC access consecrated access in case you was fire response needed back in the Hathington Square area.

So they've determined that it would have to be at a height of at least 13 feet, six inches to anything.

Should council desire to improve this that would be have to be in condition that would be maintained.

And then the second issue is related to the awning, which also the metal canopy on the drawings as well.

Um that awning crosses over five feet that would essentially uh extend to the stairs that are currently on the side of the stairs that are used to control to the side of the building.

Um because of the substantial nature of the metal canopy and the fact that deep street is a different kind of city ride of way than we're in the sidewalk crossing.

And so I felt it was appropriate to bring that before you have the decision making as well, since it's a more permanent structure and made a part of your material than some kind of a cloth awning baker that would be uh proceeding into that area.

Um one note that we do have in the middle as well is that should council approve this, I just wouldn't have to go to the construction board of appeals, which is a board that Mr.

Rice works with.

Um independence of anything this body does, that body doesn't need to be the only ones able to vary the issue of that, which is the Mr.

Rice right to be on this, but because it is essentially a part of the building and crossing outside of the building footprint onto a different property, which would have to consider cutting this out at this point.

And Mr.

Scott can see if you have any questions about their project and what they're hoping to accomplish the main part here.

Sure, we've got a couple questions.

Well, that's one of the reasons why we're in front of the council right now, is because we're trying to figure out uh some kind of things.

Oh, you probably did that or anything.

And if we do anything, we have a well and big book.

Oh, we have a red front.

So you got to have this is different than the table that's got the table.

That is the property.

What are we doing through the table?

Um before that board is the reference or discussion about longs.

What end of remote?

Well, good question, we just do that from staff point of view.

We didn't have any method improvement.

So that's why we had to go to this body.

If you did it out, you have to give the revocable temporary permit or remoteable options.

So that uh it would have a period of time.

And that's what we're all of a well star with the uh on the road.

They were remote.

And if you are to do that, it would be remoteable.

And if you weren't gonna randomly charge you know, rate.

Um, but they probably need to be reviewed currently.

To me, they would have like drawings heights.

Um need to be more specific.

Sure, you can see.

I I I agree, I'm just saying that I thought we had some pretty specific lines to ask you.

That's a bunch of string lights up and how far over the ground.

But I thought with that canopy we had very specific.

The canopy is specifically very specific.

The real issue is that that's think of that area where those seeds are between where Grandmar used to be and so total buds, I think is right there.

In between that naturally street.

Steven Street.

And so it's a public right of way, so we're led to that view public right-of-way, which they think that's critical is for that.

So we need to charge.

And we need to limit to make it very specific.

So it can't be transferable or any of those other things.

But we're basically letting them use the public right-of-way.

Right.

But again, because it's a public right-of-way.

If somebody else wants to use it to public right away.

I want to ask before we continue, before I get to any discussion.

I think uh library parts of our clear setting is still redoing it.

Yeah, this is only in my opinion to say it's really before we continue, before we have any more discussion, um I recognize myself two questions to Mr.

Rice.

This is just two general questions regarding history.

Um for the light for lights that we ever had a request like this, and have we ever accepted requests like this, or do we have previously attacked everything something else?

I'm not aware we need lights being requested to be strong across the roadway anywhere.

I'm not aware of that.

And then for the audience, I know that we have audience that received for the sidewalks and the square, but for the audit audience proposed as uh place to spend proposed business lines proposed before or been accepted, rejected for any other issues was to do with it.

Um proposed building that was being proposed to be built on the square.

Um that was just general consensual at the at that time.

And they had some projections that was going to extend out onto the right-of-way on that route street.

And it was involved in the same situation as this, and it would have to come for council and get blessing for extending them right away, as well as building down uh on board about other things happen when you do not look forward.

So that's that's the only one I'm aware of that extended crossing right away or potentially external cross right away.

It's not sidewalk.

That's it's not a sidewalk, that's correct.

That's straight right away.

I should have taken out for the noise different way to meet you.

Well, it's it's not just the width, it's the area as well as the light.

So the the building code is very clear uh when it talks about um for public right of way.

Um says installation of these uh over public rightways shall be subject to the approval of the alpha ball governing authority or council.

Uh and then the vertical clearance from the public route of way to the lowest part of the awning in this case, and I'll be less than 15 feet.

Um that is eight feet by five inches.

So that's part of the reason for more wheels, as well as general areas.

So uh the others that you see up on the square, again, we don't get real excited about because sidewalks are not all the street.

Passive travel for families, emergency services in this way and this particular case because that is access point for fireport.

They have to go down through there.

Um it's more this important.

Well, we we had that discussion, and uh we felt like Mayor Calm had to weigh out these folks because if you did not if your blessing only to move forward, then it's no need for the board here.

If there's a system, that's the same problem.

It is not what ask I'll ask you for the committee.

Do you want to talk to us the person asking for this copy?

Or you think this is all within the body is up to the committee.

You can say that's gonna be any different than what we're doing.

Um again, I got no problem with him speaking if you could give them.

I'm just not sure what that would be at this point.

Okay.

Um Carlisle asked this question again about will be recognizing that change, of course.

Okay.

Uh good evening.

Um business obviously we purchased the building in people and excessive.

We've been operating the recent screen since 2011.

When this opportunity came up, we we really thought that this property itself was kind of a showcase value of property of screen and in ways and right here being used in that public access road for their value for the last 22 years, I believe.

So obviously, with this person building, we knew that we we wanted to really enhance it.

We've seen the evolution of Marina in the city of Miranda, and it's kind of so much just uh all elements about really when I thought this area without an enormous common access.

We realized that fire trucks have to get through, and it has to be a weak meeting to get through that kind of raised the lights high enough to just kind of just you would really have the best patio to sit in the downtown ones.

And turns to the awning, you know, then it's uh historic board including coming to TVs on the side of the building, and that awning only came out five feet on the other side, which it doesn't show um in that drawing as a street post.

So we felt like uh the the stairs are here with the street post here, because a line on the other side of the street post, so we'd get an imped on any fire trucks coming through that alley anyway because there's a street there's a street light right there, it's not going to be removed.

So the audit came out about five little like five beam, like one inch that would provide seed drinking TVs, so when our guest sat out there on the patio to watch it with the side light, you know, we can light and support that I mean what I'd see through the TVs, so people sitting out there watching sports outside would be able to see the TV.

And that was the difference of that TV in a secondable.

If we might go past that street, get those two street lights or two land past.

Yeah.

That pretty much answered my question, I guess.

That answered my question.

I was thinking if the audience was over and for some reason we needed more than one fire truck coming through there.

I mean, I don't know, you're not worried about the lights.

If we took out the lights, then if we took out your audience, right?

And the audience doesn't even come out to what the steps are that are five bridges.

So it's shorter than the grid um steps to come out the side of the building.

I think that's really time to start.

We had a remote.

But if you live in the go forward, you might have a lot.

Would we go forward if you do license picking?

I mean we built light and just better for its best body of this city.

You know, we really went to draw intention to it, and you know we'll come up to summer and get tables out there, get the TVs out there, and people have to watch the cyber games somewhere involved throughout the spring in the summer and then to the falls.

I believe it went to the building doing a box and she's already at read.

Um to give her a letter to release liability that shouldn't allow us to attach the license to the building so that you don't spot using the energy next step is different from here.

So we've got next steps.

A portion of it.

I don't know that it's actually a path, but we've got a path that we'd be maintaining through the other two businesses.

There we go.

And typically the tables have always had about six feet or seven feet of all room three of the tables.

Oh if you have a question, we'll talk back to the microphone's dog or do I think I already disclosed it.

Yeah, they did just got that he was in it and it's just other easy task before it's I too bitted at the same time today.

So it's already been it's already been submitted.

Not in air nor sale, so we'll be sure.

I started off the item that you said to get sort of always underfailing.

So is there a further discussion within the body on this item?

I just have a question from Daddy's I could.

Yes.

Obviously, this could be yes, but could we fashion a lease or a license for that two years for this specific?

If you've had a game yet, I would want to put some things in here, but uh maintenance removal a relation and empty agreement and the uh issues, but to me it would be a rabbit that won't temporarily permit or license.

Maybe this is rather well you can remember if you were in the still subject where we've got to the rules one.

I would like to make a move to move this forward to the work session for the review and approval of a license or an applicable agreement between the city and cancel the halting.

Is there a second?

Well, I can make it clear too about the wall boy.

But how about it?

We have two restaurants.

Yeah, but we could I guess some good news on that with uh table ordinance the way it's written, it only lasts for one year.

Um so that is good in the council can the city can't go in and take away the right uh if there's a reason to do that.

Um but we can be very specific on exactly how much room we have to maintain and where they can put the tables, where they can't put the tables.

Uh better words is really good about tables and uh to look at us.

But it doesn't deal with anything else if that's why I just try to stop.

I'll just note that I am still concerned about the uh file the fireway on this and extending out the fact that this hasn't been done elsewhere in the city on some on stuff.

Um I'll just make that sure that that was my one of my concerns.

Flyer said that's one example's assert that they can get through, and then they also went ahead and said if it gets taken down, that's kind of ideal.

So we'll see how you got that there.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're gonna be right and over stuck.

Those fire trucks are pretty hardy.

They are pretty hard even when we try not to put them in under risk.

They're pretty expensive to play money.

So, yes, we have had the opportunity to redeem plan for it with finders to extend the case.

Um the awning may be subject to this ranking ordinance, uh, depending on what store it and how far it projects believing.

But we did let the extent lights and minimum clearance requirement uh is provided from state lights.

Uh, it just needs to be maintained and also encouraged some sort of quick release mechanism.

So they may be set in fact if as necessary.

Some things that might need to be considered something passed for council.

Thank you.

Is there any further discussions on any more questions?

Well, Dave, I won't take a look if that wouldn't be robot.

It's a separate sidewalk it's first here and that's the right thing.

Yeah, if it's if it's only the sidewalk, we're not concerned about it.

It talks about over the sidewalks from uh I think it's maybe supposed to be local.

Any further discussion?

Hearing on the motion of the swords, the AWS with the direction to look at doing a license or other kind of agreement of some kind with certain with things as this with the restrictions is discussed.

All those in favor can't reason by the hand.

All those legs on motion carries to one.

Is there anything for us to come before judicial legislative?

Yes, sir.

Uh that's January 27th.

Second.

Uh the top neighbor's yeah.

Mr.

Rice.

Hey, Mr.

Chairman, uh, the only update is we are at a meeting with our contractor for anywhere.

Project there getting ready to start for us.

Um we're still waiting on kind of work that uh getting back from Scotty.

He's got to get back from Chat at this point.

So he's still ready to get mobilized and started on that uh project since we finalized GDOT, but that's all I have on the 2016 question.

It's positive somewhere in this right.

2022, a few updates.

Um just a reminder of the North Marietta Parkway free to gate project.

We'll have a public input meeting on April 1st, 5 to 7 here in the council chambers.

Um trail project is continuing, they're getting close to completing that, but they're still got some items to work on.

Um I'm making this at the last council meeting while you really have an intersectional term, but now it's complete.

You have a big picture to complete a project.

Um project that we've almost well is complete now, is Franklin Gateway sidewalk improvements.

We started working on that uh a couple of three weeks ago with a contractor.

Um upgrades along Franklin Gateway.

Um Powell.

So 436 project underway PS completed that project now.

Um Marietta Police Training Center for Blascoes, you have a picture there.

So that project's just in the punch list right now.

Get that project wrapped up.

Uh that's all our album 2022, which you want to use the questions.

Um, comment I have is as far as you know, the North Terry Street Standard is the single most uh requested for information item for my ward.

Um I would like to ask the city to involve comps some way to communicate this subject's this this uh probably first in some way.

Uh just want to be very transparent about what this will look like, so I'd encourage you all to think of anything at this should already been standing.

Thanks, sir.

It's on page two of that somewhere right there.

Should we have an important right now?

Oh much you spend you have a button.

Any other discussion on that item?

February 2027 works on the last performance report, Mr.

Rice.

Um everything still says steady says we'll um again uh talk about the inspection uh permit fees uh we're still seeing a slow bit of a slowdown in permits, but seemed like the permanent things.

So we're happy about that.

All the other numbers are steady for this time of year, so uh even with the winter weather that we had back in January, so we're we're still seeing everything's just staying in status one, so we're happy to answer any questions for the performance report.

I'll try to go through these somewhat quickly, but uh is there all requests for Comcast communication for uh very interesting underground utility ordinance.

So the first one is um along Hall Parkway South and the utility pole located at 390 South Marina Parkway to the utility pole located at the island at Call Parkway South and South Marina Parkway.

They request to install 125 feet of new fiber optic cable uh overlashing along parkway south.

Um located at 390 South Maryland Parkway to the utility pole located in the island and called Parkway South and South Marina Parkway.

This is in Port 1A.

And we do have uh utility hallway and actually issues with this request.

So Robert's rule of order question.

Just want to see if you booked this.

Can we talk about can I have them present on all of these at one time and then we all have discussion set at the end of the fives are similar?

Is that allowable?

Separate set of vote, yeah.

I agree with that.

We need to vote on them separately, but discussion similar way.

You can't have you can have uh since they're all fairly similar.

You can make a rolling as chair that you you want to have, take all these discussion all at once and then make individual motions.

Um so long as the design appeal from the bottom from the committee should be looking at each other.

So yeah, that's right.

Yeah, let's let's just postpone each one forward.

Okay.

So the uh next one is at um 738 South Marietta Parkway.

Same thing, the request for variants along South Marina Parkway from the utility pole located at 738 South Marina Parkway to the utility pole located at 738 South Mary Parkway.

Um this is the quest with 275 feet of overlashing at that location.

This also is located in Ward 1A.

And again, we have utilities in this area, so we have no issues with this.

So uh very long Glover Street to the to the utility pole located at 460 Glover Street.

Uh this request is for 10 feet of overlashing along Lover Street to the utility pole to service at 460 Glover Street.

This also is in Port 1B.

Next one is uh on Old Mountain Road from the utility pole located at 899 Old Mountain Road to the utility service at 809 Old Mountain Road.

This is 65 feet of overlashing at that location.

This is located in ward 4C.

And then the final one is at 145 Aviation Road, so this is along Aviation Road to the utility pole located at 145 Aviation Road.

At that location, and this is located in ward 78.

No text of consent.

Okay, we're here in the 738 South Meredith Parkway Utilities.

Okay.

All in favor.

Okay, then we'll make sense.

I can question that.

Is there anything they according to alpha case?

There is a service at that location.

This is a service near 460 dollar beaker.

I mean I know that's the problem.

But I'm not sure what they're doing.

So for now, I'm gonna say watching over.

Alright, all in favor?

Any objection on that go up to the second?

All right, all the road utilities.

All in the utility on that.

145 and aviation road of utilities.

All the thick.

Any objection on that glucose.

Mr.

Rice, phase three stops in requests.

Faith Street and Evanary Drive and Faint Street and Hope Street, with the associated pedestrian improvements for crosswalks at these intersections.

We completed this evaluation and you're not finding any issues with installation of three-way stop conditioning with pedestrian crosswalk at these two intersections.

These improvements will require installation and pedestrian crosswalks, and improvements to the sidewalk access sidewalk access points.

Estimated cost for these items is $2,500.

It's just located in ward 3A.

This will require a public hearing if this is moved forward.

This isn't the spoon forward to see the more there.

They flashing me.

Another request because every cat is to uh safety request added rapid flashing rectangular beacon RRFB and block crossing on Pop Street between Claybrid Avenue and Gridge Avenue at Westside Elementary School.

We developed a call set to add two RRFB devices.

Electric power for the devices and supplemental signage and striving.

We estimated the cost of that proposal to be 145,000.

This is located in Ward 3A and 4A to War just put at this particular location.

We don't have any issues with the insulation at this particular location.

This is the best location of our side distance goes from two start in the bottom down the entrance to Western elementary.

This will allow the uh people or students walking from what is Brown Avenue.

This is there coming across to get to the school three section and then go up to the combat down the street.

So this will provide the same access point to cross with the same devices that we just recently installed up at uh school, which is lights that's crosswalk on the ground as well as flashing up above or bottom.

So a little bit section device to get people's attention in the students here and we'll cross the room right there.

Well uh it split between yourself, so it would be up to your YouTube to tell me one or both of you would be paying for that.

This one doesn't operate public hearing, that's why our council wants to be blocked crossing on trouble with that rail.

Council meeting.

All in favor.

So can you say an objection of consent?

Maybe Mr.

Henderson will talk about you like we know we're splitting.

We'll have to order the devices all about ready to start this function till you got to talk.

Um this next item, uh, Mr.

Barrett is going to present.

So this item is related to their governmental agreement with Cop County for traffic priority services.

So give us a city implemented a preemption system for emergency responders probably in the fire department, uh, which gives them uh preemption in the event of emergency to change the traffic signals from red to green and plus the traffic out in front of them, which shortens their time from where they are to where they need to get to.

We've had the system in for over 10 years.

Um County had approached the city about doing some testing uh with buses to use a secondary um to use that primary preemption system for a secondary service called priority.

So um, I think this could probably better explain how priority works in IT, but the way it works is if a bus has a certain number of passengers, and it is off of its schedule a certain amount of time as long as it doesn't impact traffic too much, and it does not uh uh preempt preemption.

Uh so the county tests the system and expanded the use of that system that it now approached us that they want to use that priority system through all of the signals, all 127 signals uh in area as network um pay us to use that system, to be a subscriber on that system to give it priority service when it is that we can multiple buses.

So this contract is something that uh Mr.

Rice and I have worked on for many months.

Um we've also worked with the city is contacted the county and the document that is in front of you is to allow them to use that system annually for the specified cost with the uh specified increase annually if they're working hopefully for any questions you've had about this agreement for them to utilize the system for priority services.

Mr.

Barrett, um just a few questions.

112,000, 53.91 cents, how do we go with that number?

So the way uh Mr.

Rice and I talked about that number was based on the number of devices we have and the utilization that we get assumed that they're going to use as they go through the city uh to get that primitive.

And the 4%'s gonna increase every year.

Correct.

Just a function of increased costs.

Correct.

One more question.

Um experience of glance, how long they've been around, what do you know about them?

So glance is actually the product, and we did not list the company name because we weren't sure we would always use them.

So I guess it's actually the solution uh from applied information is the vendor that we use.

So they would be supplying their own devices to put in the buses.

They would maintain those devices, they would maintain the user ability to use those devices in the buses.

Um we would just be supplying the network and you'd be paid for the person utilizing the thing.

So my question is this is it should not.

The way it works is preemption is always the guaranteed service is the priority service, so then basically quality of service from QOS on the network.

Um, so they would not get anything or cause any of the C2 fire getting that production service and security of it.

I'm just shocked by all of this.

Um how does the CD get into the bus system?

So the vendor had priority as a secondary service in the solution that they provide, and they reached out um to CobLink, and this happened years ago.

Um I actually accompanied the vendor over there to discuss how it worked.

So years ago, they were testing devices, and they did some test runs with elected other people that were interested in transit, and that is really the last we've heard of it until they came back to us.

So this isn't about safety, security, response.

This is simply a bus is running behind schedule, and I need to pick it up, so I'm gonna flip it alight.

It's not going to flip the light the same way the preemption works.

Um it is just going to either sort of cycle or they're not going to get necessarily get a green.

And it's just going to get them back on schedule in the best way it can.

So it's not going to trigger green in the way that fire does.

It's going to look at the network as the system looks at the network as a whole when those criteria are met with number of passengers, which I think they have to have five passengers, and they have to be more than five minutes behind, then the traffic signaling will automatically attest as long as it does not impact the traffic plan that isn't going too significantly for a cause of other emissions.

That term is first thing depends on the top of day.

Because if there's less hour, that time shrinks a little bit, then it's changes out when it's not our shower.

So I can I'll have to look it up and take the time, but because it varies different different times of day.

And we found that.

So they wanted to pay us in order to do it.

So you're trying to meet in as far as the city's concern, we can cut it off too.

Um, you know, uh do that.

Um it doesn't seem to be impeding our codes at this point with the ones we have out there.

But uh, we were not really talking about the fact that we were using it.

So I think it's been a question.

Um is an impact with network if they've when they were using it, we did not know we did not see any kind of combination of the service from the training planes and everything's so what stops them from doing any more things?

Right now it's club length.

Did they put it in other stuff?

I mean, technically, yes.

Um, we've had some very serious discussions with the vendors involved.

Yeah, and we've come.

And with uh uh yeah, we've I've had discussions with all of their executive staff about it.

Um and uh I don't think that they're gonna take that risk because they do we're gonna cut them off on everything.

Okay, we'll go out from when they use it.

Maybe there's probably a commander's volcano.

Yes, sir, yeah.

Yeah, well, yeah, problem.

That's we have to win for them.

Um I think at least one of my questions sort of been asked, and we are uh under city responsibilities.

We guarantee a few things just straight out.

One example is Section 1A.

The city will manage the system and work to ensure the priority system is available for all devices on the priority network.

There are going to be times when this network might be down due to the power outage, might be an internet outage, or something else, or something might be off of the light.

So it answered the question.

So right now, even without them on the network, um IT and both of the traffic vectors and the public works and fire may have a monthly meeting with them to monitor the health of the network to see its performance and make sure that it's performing to expectations that this was more just a com I mean the intention was a comment about that we were managing and monitoring the help of the network today, and we'll continue to do that.

We're going to ensure the system is affected.

That means we are guaranteed basically guaranteeing the system's going to be available.

It just gives timeframes and implementation on that.

Because it says work to ensure it was the same thought in short but work to ensure.

So that's just one example because there's new.

There's one that doesn't even have work, just says a D on a next page.

The city will ensure that the intersection traffic lights are working effectively.

Again, doesn't account for a power outage or something like that.

Where we won't just track traffic flight down, we have to do other kinds of things.

The system's often working traffic lines up to work.

Um if it were going to have to include that line reasonably is one probably need to get in that if you were wanting to include that line.

So is this line?

Where suggesting we're just line to kind of suggest which three parts together is things kind of suggesting that we're not comfortable with staffers and control with.

I think everybody's okay at this point, but if you don't want to move along, that's fine.

Some of these things where it's doing these insured stuff, there's slowly reasonable times, like usually usually the traffic system itself just for systems aren't going to be hit.

Whether it's the traffic light, whether it's the system itself.

So that's kind of where Zellmatic Surcomes.

Different one is under the under the county responsibilities.

Um, the county shall have the priority units installed in all link buses, but doesn't say specifically who's paying for those.

What I've got a feeling is probably supposed to be the county paying for most.

They probably should be inclusion that they're the ones having to pay for this because not us.

Even though it's stuff all working off our system.

Um on the offcast that the county sees something that we don't notice an issue with the system.

They don't have a duty to report it to us to see.

Um there should be a date for port if they notice and notice an issue with the system, just so you understand we do not use priority.

That is all like that.

They could also notice with one of the drivers to see uh like change properly or something.

I know, like I noticed on the south fleet city.

Um exit 263, heading northbound and edited up to circle around.

Um change transit and spot right into them and just turn right back on to uh 75 south to get where they were headed.

Um, I had to report that into the system that report that to you all.

I'm saying if the county or someone knows issues to pre-mission the part of our system.

It shouldn't be showing the data to report it to this.

They will never be able to they won't identify preemption at all.

They won't they won't be able to know when it happens because they can't turn it when they fire the control.

So they will never know when parting best will work.

Uh the same case I see something as well, though.

That's it.

Because there's ones on our system, if they see something that should that's not gone off, they should be telling us this.

Okay.

If we want to find a staff respect, I would like to know on that.

So we're not on that.

If there's just some senior components about short one to make sure there is a force in shore paragraph, if the base makes sense of two of what's possible.

I mean, if the power goes out, we can't ensure that the light to be awarded things covers like that to everybody.

And that are it might be some reason we need to show that intersectional inside.

It may not be covered by force mission.

That's our thing where things have to be in sure that it works on the remote, basically.

So it doesn't become full.

Or if it goes down by an acting bad, we are not liable for that.

Those two things with the shore recovery of force measurement.

Is there any other situation where it might be taken down or doing something that's doing intentionally with your working system?

Whether it's something that's not a lot talking.

So it's like taking some down, upgrading a light, something like that.

That would be that'd be will that be willful taken down.

Yes, sir.

Or no response.

Okay, ready to go for more than reward numbers.

That's the understood way to put it.

Can they expand the units but then just run within this city but couldn't do anything other than the CCT buses to the point cut back on other devices and other cars?

And other cars, I guess they could drive.

Um if you found it out.

We're gonna be doing different analysis of the system, so we'll know who's using it where if they start doing that with a pulling or something.

We have those monthly meetings monitoring, we'll start monitoring the priority as a point of meeting.

So we'll like to see how it's performing how many buses, all that will become part of that one-foot meeting.

But to your point where can they add additional buses and not tell us yes that once we identify that we had force?

Does buses have to have these systems?

Right, because we can't see the question.

We will know, yes.

Until we start getting the action once it works and we'll start refining that.

Uh they will not be able to.

They'll be able to see better.

That's correct.

Yeah, it says they see.

Yeah, it says in the section two D and E.

The county should have no expectation of being able to make changes to the priority system.

Um the county should have no expectation of being able to access any of the traffic control cabinets maintained are controlled by the city.

Um we could add a second piece of it, we can have no access to the city data.

I don't just say that you know there's a barrier of resonance that use these buses.

So a big barrier to use in transit is the fact that it takes longer.

It's not as convenient as driving your own vehicle.

That's one of the barriers.

So if we can make that experience to those folks who do ride buses, and actually get to work on time and actually it's more viable option.

We deal all the time with traffic issues, the volume issues, the speeding.

We're taking more cars off the road, and folks have a better experience on the bus.

That's that's where I've come out at this from this.

So if you find a way that we feel that we're not liable, then we have a better opportunity to preserve their liability than I think it's good.

For me, my call my comments is trying to make sure we're improving the contract and get to an end rather than trying to cut something to see.

I just haven't problem.

Yes, we can't argue with that.

We have a producer everyone's dead back to work.

Yes, yeah.

We talk about the good, I will talk about the big still weight.

Like how important this is.

I can't trust them in all reader both for this.

We're looking for other options on that stream find something else.

Uh in the small media.

This might be better for either.

Whether it comes back as this can be strategic work session.

Probably not right for the full council.

Probably needs another work session.

That's fair.

We don't want finding two.

I mean, don't recommend any changes.

Oh, it's all right.

Thank you.

We discussed this at the special call meeting a couple weeks ago, but um I'll I'll kind of give you the highlights again for this.

So we do have an option for the establishment of a quiet zone railroad crossing at all the downtown railroad crossings.

We'd have to implement the Federal Railroad Administration's quiet zone program policy.

Um which does allow public authorities to establish quiet zones where sections of tech for routine sounding and locomotive warrants are suspended if supplemental safety measures sufficiently compensate for the absence of forms.

Challenges to quiet zones are substantial and more careful consideration.

Financially, municipalities bear the full cost for all preliminary engineering, construction, maintenance, and replacement of all required safety devices.

Estimated capital costs vary extensively for crossing time treatment.

Four quadrant gate systems average from 300,000 to 500,000 for a crossing, basic active warning systems 180, 185,000 to 400,000, and more complex solutions we can see one million per crossing in certain context.

The annual maintenance costs additionally average 4,000 to 10,000 per crossing.

Due to complexities of the crossing in the downtown area, it is estimated that this task and quiet zones would average one million dollars per crossing.

The procedural sequence for these talks and quiet zones is as follows.

Diagnostic assistance, FRA submission, engineering design reviews by the approved engineering firms of the railroad, and then construction.

The sequence can extend multiple years.

This case study suggests the diagnostic reviews alone average twelve to eighteen months.

Design approvals two to three years, and construction four to five years.

This makes total planning and execution of seven nine seven to nine-year commitment for quiet zone status is achieved.

Public sector remains paramount, even if you're given in a quiet zone, this forms may still be used in emergencies or at the locomotive engineer's discretion.

And communities are saying high liability for the adequacy and upkeep of pensatory measures.

Some municipalities have experienced suspension of quiet zones due to non-compliance with FRA safety standards and discovering ongoing inspection and maintenance responsibilities.

They require rigorous painting, significant physical and maintenance investment, and durable safety commitments to ensure compliance for federal reach reduction at as I stated in there with the meeting.

Closeness of all of our crossings, we would have to do all of our work at one time.

We couldn't just do one side combat and we'll have one later.

Unfortunately, all of ours meet that district requirements, so we would have to do all of them at one time.

No, that is not this.

This is just considering the ones in the downtown that would how have to be done at the same time.

And that kicks in the rest of them.

So if we can look at the crossing at Atlanta, it eased things.

Again, but as I stated earlier, too, the city would assume all liability once we implement that.

So just keep that in the back of your mind as well.

So if you decide to move forward with this and we do five city then what will be the project you mentioned right to project, what do you think the product should be?

500, 400,000.

Uh by the time you pay for the actual devices and all the engineering and the railroad fees that are associated with this, it's gonna be a million dollars per profit.

Where does that do that from splos streets and sidewalks or if that I'll say to the war street?

Okay.

We've been here a long time, sorry.

Oh no, it would it would have to be down in the sploth, so it would have to be included as a non-addem and splash.

Unless there's another funding source, I know the mayor, I think it's mentioned at some point, maybe the downtown authority, possibly partners if they wanted that done, but the only other funding source is sposs.

The downtown authority do they go down as far as instance?

Um that we get this in all seriousness.

Um I don't personally like quite sayings in the last six months.

You've had two people speak, right?

And that was with all kinds of whites and sound eats.

Alright, I don't necessarily love it.

This is a question that I may use.

I think the citizen you're talking about, even if you do that in Atlanta, they're still gonna hear the horns.

Unless you go all the way through.

So, you know, they still want to hear the horns blowing it at Waverly.

Down at Atlanta Dixon.

So just because you plan that one, you're still going to hear it, or you're still going to hear it on the other side of Atlanta Dickson.

So by doing that one crossing, I don't think it's gonna solve their concerns.

But just have to be explained.

But right hand is taken care of.

Right now it is a testament before the final final.

And I knew this was coming up, so we mayor and counsel still has time to make that testament to some desire.

So maybe you still got time.

Then the question would have to be how much or how many?

I mean, because obviously we can't just do a fall.

Right.

So we don't.

If you do if you do all of them, then what else would you have to remove in order to balance?

Yes.

It's a lot of money also and it says uh the conductor has the discretion.

If I'm uh engineer conductor and I've done the same train route for 70 years, they put it for five crossing up.

Nothing's gonna change.

It's still gonna start ripping the horns out of town and all the way through.

Oh no, we're smelling when you build that cord at four o'clock and order wake up.

So I'll Mr.

I'll get you that distance, so you'll have that answer, and then we can continue this discussion as we continue from the splost plus the next remote.

So committee is a third.

So I can flavor play good to right hand motion carries.