Let's call the city council agenda work session order, please.

First item of ministers agenda work session minutes from March 9th.

Um the motions are approved as revised.

Second further discussion.

The revision is this on our disk.

Yes.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

All opposed like sign motion carries.

Yes, sir.

We um had an outstanding group of employees from the BLW that is, I guess, part of uh Ron's uh staff that and part of the the meeting that he introduces the staff to the uh to the board uh so we had Jasmine Tigpin customer service manager, Reginald Jones, meters and service manager, Rosemir's analyst, Bronson, and I'm not gonna mess up the last name as an analyst and uh Felisa Foster, Customer Service Supervisor, Holly Jarrett, Customer Service Supervisor, and Brent Chess Chess Hire Mail and Copy Centers uh supervisors.

So these were all customer service and customer care.

They do an outstanding job, and a lot of the employees have been with uh the BRW for a long time.

And uh Eric also had his some of his staff there.

Nick Sawyer was uh overhead four-person uh Randall Inskeep, overhead four-person, Daryl Jackson line worker, uh Caesar Garcia, line worker, and Bradley Barrettan uh was a line worker also, and a lot of and some of these guys participated in the alignment rodeo, um APPA rodeo, 61 teams, 136 apprentices competed, top teams play the top team, I guess, for the BLW placed ninth overall, third medium apprentices, best 23rd overall, and then the eighth medium, the strongest representation in about 10 years.

Um also the mayor gave a proclamation for and declaring um uh was it proclamation on April the 13th designated as Georgia Lyman Appreciation Day.

Formal thanks to the lineman for disaster response and infrastructure work.

Um that was awesome.

We also had a legislative update from Ron.

Uh data center bills did not, and I think he said no data center bills passed.

Interesting.

Um HP 463 income tax and HB 1027.

Did those pass or 1027 did not pass what was the other number?

463.

I am gonna do an update in a minute.

I'm gonna list here.

Okay.

I'll cover that.

Okay.

And then uh on our finance report, the Tina is going to go over uh the budget that the BLW board will be passing uh next month, and the um also the uh the year end settlement with MEAC.

Well Stephanie's pulling that up.

Um I'll go ahead and talk to um the year in settlement.

The um year and settlement is a reconciliation of our costs for our um fixed assets um and our fixed costs for me ag we uh typically receive a um credit normally a nominal credit um each year for the year-end settlement.

We uh typically receive a um credit normally a nominal credit um each year for the year-in settlement.

This will be the first year um in MiAG history that we have had to make a payment into a payment uh for underrecovered um amounts going back to uh MIAG and the amount that is due is 722, 746 dollars.

So to talk just briefly about um some of the um things that kind of go into this um each month we talk about the supplemental sales.

Supplemental sales are sales that um occur between MIAG participants and for City of Marietta, we are what we call a long city, so we have extra energy um to sell to other participants or MIAG um cities that do not have enough energy, and so we have been selling to MIAG um participants throughout the year, and in doing so we rely on MIAG to um sell it at a price that provides a profit, and we do that throughout the year, and at the end of the year they reconcile based on what was budgeted and the energy that was forecasted and what actually took place.

So a reconciliation takes place between those two numbers.

Um in addition to that, we also um MIAG has a contract with Georgia Power, and um with that contract, there are different plants as we talk about each month the different projects.

So City of Marietta has investment um interests in different plants that make up the um different projects within Miag, and with those projects, um the um maintenance and operate the maintenance and ongoing operational um equipment for those plants is maintained primarily by Georgia Power.

If the investments or the changes that Georgia Power anticipates or budgets for the year changes, the amount that MIAG has allocated will change as well, and so that affects what City of Marietta either receives or pays in.

With the culmination of those two things, um the calculation um came to an amount where we were um underpaid by 722,000 for the year.

To give you an idea of what the year-in settlement typically looks like on average um for the past few years, um it has ranged anywhere from almost seven million to um the lowest, I believe, was just under two million.

So those are funds that will be credited towards our bill each month uh at the year at the end of the year, and to offset our cost.

So this year instead of having offsetting costs, we had additional costs that we have to pay in.

Um this is an ongoing um issue that we have been um discussing with MIAG.

We there's some question as to the methodology, and so we will um continue to work with them to try to get this resolved in the best way we can moving forward.

There was a change as of this calendar year with MIAG and their methodology for the supplemental, so we will see how that will um impact us, but we won't be able to tell until we get the year-in settlement this time next year.

So I know that was a lot of information that I kind of threw out there.

Um I'm sure the mayor may want to chime in.

I've talked to today up at this short.

I mean, what you say is that was a good cab, but we also by not having revenue for Vogel three and four, you sure made a difference.

Yes.

I mean, if nothing, but uh but we still made money this year.

I mean it's supplemental was a surprise.

We had four cities, and the first time around, before they recalculate, we had 19 cities that did not make it.

And a lot of it, the books.

And to put it in a nutshell, we have one, you know, the overall budget is worked out fine.

Except there's an individual budget for all 49 cities.

And it's the way you've most of our generation is the least profitable and the most maintenance.

And it kind of caught up with us, even though the people in Vogel 3 and 4 are paying more for debt, which is on their own.

That doesn't go through the MiAG books.

But they also do Georgia Power is not spending any maintenance on Vogel 3 and 4 because it's still got the new car smell.

To put it bluntly, and that's like say the Georgia Power spent 12 more million dollars on maintenance of Hatch and Vogel 1 and 2.

Which comes to harness, but but it's a fact we're on the accrual system.

They spent the money, we accrued the expense.

But it has changed our dialogue of financial maintenance with me, because there's no way you can I go to every board meeting, Joseph does, uh Ms.

Brown does, and they just talk about the big budget, not the 40.

Yeah, you have 49 different budgets, plus you have a budget for each generation, whether it's hatch one, hatch two, and it's kind of where the sales fall, and then over budgeted, which affects how you do project the cost during the year uh big com sales.

Absolutely.

And that and so um to add on to that just a little bit, we do get reports each month um from EAG that gives us an update on where we are for the fixed over and under cost.

Um, with the way that um it was conveyed to us that Georgia Power decided that they would reallocate those um projections or those um M and O O and M costs um to other projects, and based on that the reallocation that they did, it impacted us um negatively by 12 million dollars versus what they initially budgeted.

So those swings at year end with um maintenance and um OM costs for Georgia Power as it per um pertains to the various projects can impact us greatly.

And we did see the same very similar um last year as well.

Um but we were able to um still receive a um refund or credit last year due to credits that MIAG um received through some additional financing, so they uh used that in order to offset the cost that we would have incurred last year as well, and it was a sizable amount then is then too.

And if I may especially Ron sitting there and yourself, our sales are gonna go up considerably in the next 13 months, and that's probably the greatest.

I mean, I like to call this this was uh a generational capacity tax.

We were taxed for having what we've had for 50 years of more generation than we could say internally, but that's gonna change with one of our latest projects.

We hope so and no, please don't say hope.

It's a matter of time.

I hope it comes sooner than later.

Yeah, and yes, sir.

Um I think you've mayor already alluded to it, and just want to make sure we are taking steps to and take a look at stuff just to make sure that we don't have a repeat of this again because this is and we're doing doing our best to try and mitigate and take a look at stuff and talk with our partners on this.

Well, we've done that the last two years and uh pointed out that the budget was not correct uh as far as what Miyag was looking at for us, and uh so we actually used our own numbers uh off of that, uh, which thankfully if we had used their numbers, it would be a much different situation with us locally.

Um we would have overspent our budget by a good bit uh because they were saying that we're gonna get a lot more revenue than off of sales internally and externally than we actually did.

So we started mitigating that a couple years ago.

Um, this particular issue where they had Georgia Power come in and do some more, and then uh with the Bitcoin uh operators and how that worked with us is a very unique situation that um we sure hope does not happen again.

But uh we'll say that as the mayor said, um, this next budget year we're gonna start ramping up as far as seeing the extra sales that we're gonna do uh to the different data uh operations that are gonna be on our system, and so uh we'll we're gonna be putting ourselves in the position that these other jurisdictions were in uh over this last cycle where they um got a lot of money refunded to them because of the use that they had, and so we'll we'll be in their shoes going forward.

Okay, and we're taking everything out, make sure everything's accurate with regard to the numbers we've been given, correct?

Yeah, we've like I say, we've been doing that, and we we had uh powwows with uh them the last two years uh in November when uh they were looking at passing their budget and said that the numbers you have for us are incorrect, and we showed why, um, but they said that they did not want to change it.

Um that uh they had already presented the budget and they didn't want to alter it at that point, so um we thankfully went with our numbers instead of theirs.

Yes, and I think that I already get this, but we have to go supplemental first and then market so the friends and family sound like good friends.

So um in many ways, yes.

Um what is the um idea is we are all as you mentioned, one big family, right?

So when you have um one family member with um more energy and another family with less energy when you're doing your budget, you assume that the family member with less energy is going to um use the energy that the other family member that has more energy um and we all balance that is not always the case.

So um there are times when um the market is less than the cost of the family member with excess, and so the family member that needs um some additional energy may go to a cousin and go to the market instead of going to the next they can go to the market, but we've got to sell first a supplement.

That is correct.

Basically so not sell, which is not sell absolutely.

And that was part of the problem with the budget is that they were anticipating that we were gonna sell all this power to the other members of MIAG, and it didn't happen uh for various reasons that you just stated.

And so when that we knew that we didn't think that would happen because we looked at past years and it hadn't happened before, and so that's why we pulled our budget back.

Um but they yeah, just really overestimated what was gonna happen there, and so then when they overestimate that they base your budget that you're gonna be producing that much energy and all the rest, and so then you end up getting these monthly uh bills that they're trying to balance out that really are not correct, and so then at year end they have to true it up, and when they do, it didn't look so good.

Okay, I mean we still but to the mayor's point, we still made money.

Um it's just that it's we didn't have the debt if nothing else.

Right.

I mean, that was year we made seven when we came off with debt.

Yeah, and we had the trust and uh so with that is that mean we're also possibly even committing resources, assuming we're gonna have to have generate that power, or is that because uh I know I keep keep asking about the share whenever I see the share plant running and whether whether it's a Georgia Power commitment, which we can't control versus a MiAG commitment.

Right so no one's asked with MiAG's running it.

I'm always asking the reason why, because I know that's one of our most expensive ones on top of the environmental reasons.

Yeah, I mean, some of that is Miag and some of that is Georgia Power.

Um that they have to look at the resources that they have because Georgia Power is operating the plants, and so they confer with MiAG uh back and forth on a daily basis and uh try to figure out what they're gonna need to meet the resource demands that are out there, and so they've got a lot in a lot of the cases those more expensive plants.

They have to make a decision the day before whether they're gonna operate them or not.

And uh sometimes they're right and sometimes they're wrong as far as the way the market price is, and on those days when they're wrong, we're losing money on the days that they're right, we're making money.

Um, and so uh thankfully over a over the whole time we've had it, we've always made more money than uh they've gone the wrong way on as far as operating it with uh with the market not meeting demand uh like we thought it was gonna or they thought it was gonna be.

Uh but as was said, uh the the real good news about where we're going is that we will be committing those uh extra megawatts of power that we've got to certain customers that we have, and those customers will be running 24-7, and so we're not gonna have the situation of uh them having to figure out well, do we crank up something that Marietta has a piece of or not?

Um all that won't be sold to the participants and won't be sold in the market, it's gonna be sold to our own people uh that we've got customer-wise, and we know what the profit will be there because there always will be profit because the way that we've structured the deals is cost plus so um that will put us in a much more stable situation and uh in a much more profitable situation going forward.

Yes, sir.

You go back to the point.

You mean everybody in the disabled had a partnership of one form or another, LLC.

We do not commingle the assets, yeah.

Yeah, I mean that that goes exactly what you said.

They go in the market, our fellow members of this authority can buy it from somebody else, and we're left being penalized for not selling.

But whether it's an LLC, a sub-S, a general part.

You don't you co-mingle the FCS?

It's all for one and one for but they wait to after you market it before they pull us together.

Which is and plus we're using more sophisticated brokers now.

Right.

We used to do it in so we didn't.

So they get the best price for somebody this short.

Right.

When we cut on the machine, we have to buy it from ourselves.

And we have the most dangerous ones until vocal three and four come in.

Yeah.

And Miyag did make a change, a policy change to try to assist with the situation.

Um they were gonna implement that policy change back last summer, which would have benefited us in what just happened.

Uh, but some of the smaller cities uh said they would our participants said that they would like it to go into effect in the new budget year, which was gonna be January, and so they agreed and moved it to January.

So we should see some buffering of that situation now because of that new policy.

And that number they originally uh said that you could pay it over 10 months, but uh the board has decided to pay it in three payments and and be paid by the end of the physical year.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

And there's a budget amendment that would need to be added to the agenda that's been drawn up, it should be at yeah, and so that that would effectuate what the board wanted to do.

Right uh to do it in this budget year.

So when would it be appropriate to add that to the whenever the mayor felt um said the conclusion of your report?

Okay, you did that motion.

So Ron, did you have anything you wanted to add to okay?

And um did you want to address the the bills at this point or later?

There's not on the agenda later.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I think that's about Did you have anything else to add, Mr.

Mayor?

No, that's that you're talking to her.

To you.

Oh, for maintenance.

No, that that dominated the conversation.

We didn't um I don't know.

Uh Griff wasn't at the meeting, and uh so we didn't have uh a report on the from the water authority.

Okay, well he thought it was in the minutes, so I guess we'll send it down.

Uh send the minutes out.

Okay, yeah.

That's all I had.

Financials, financial okay, yeah, the regular financial yeah.

Sorry.

Good news, right?

Yes, sir.

I'll say consistent.

Consistent.

Okay, so um this month, due to the timing um of the initial BLW report um BLW board meeting, we were unable to complete the financials.

Um we had a holiday in between there, so I would be providing the supplementals.

Uh for the month of February, um, as I mentioned, MIAG is on a calendar year, so this is a month two of the 2026 uh budget.

And um as we were just mentioning, this only highlights um the discussions that we've been having.

So um their supplemental for the month was off by 29,000.

We were short um initially they were anticipating 2.95 million, we received 2.09 million.

Um, so there was a um sizable miss there for um the supplementals.

The total power was not as large of a miss.

Um we had four point budgeted four point um four eight six.

We received five point one oh six um for the total power.

A lot of that had to do with the off-system sales.

So we did have um a pretty good chunk there.

Um bulk resources um as you can see exceeded the budget, so that's how we were able to receive additional funds for the month.

Um they did go over their resource um allocation, and for the year to date, uh we are 41 percent under budget for the supplemental, and um as far as our power uh power costs, I'm sorry, um the power costs are exceeded the budget by 31 percent.

So um, and that goes back, I'm sorry, to the total power for the month of February also exceeds the budget um by just over seven, just under six just over six hundred thousand for the month of February.

So um as we look at our BLW budget, um we are we are um under budget over we have overcollected um on our supplemental versus our budget, so we've received more supplemental and the amount of two million um for the month and we budgeted nine hundred thousand.

Our total power costs as a result um are less than what we budgeted for the month, so we budgeted six point seven eight for our budget, um total cost um totaled five hundred and fifty fifty five million five hundred and thirty-nine thousand, and then year to date, and so this is from last July through the month of February.

Our costs are um our supplemental costs are um less than what we received what we for uh budgeted, so we received 11.17 million in supplementals, we budgeted 12.16, and um bear in mind that the amount that is budgeted here for our BLW is approximately 10 million overall for the year, 10 to 12 million overall for the year less than what um Miag had in their budget.

Our total power costs um year to date, we have exceeded our um budget year to date by approximately two million.

So our costs for our power two million dollars higher than we initially anticipated.

Moving forward to the um gas price comparison, uh gas prices have fallen drastically.

Um that was anticipated.

We are um more aligned with the Miag budget.

The projection going forward for the rest of the year is another price drop for our gas price comparison.

So we anticipate um those market prices to continue to drop, and that'll affect our profits.

The spot market price, um, very similar.

Um we've seen a drop.

We anticipate another large drop, and um the forecast for the remainder of the year is just under um the original budget.

Looking at the plant operations if uh for the month of February, um sorry, and looking at the month of March, they they had some refueling.

So Vogel one, which is a um a um one of our primary um plants is was out from February through and anticipated through the end of April.

So it just came back on last week.

Um same for Vogel four, but we are not in Vogal 4.

That affects the other um participants and their potential to purchase power from us.

Shear two is a coal plant, and that was um scheduled to come on, and that was in order to supplement the um outages for the Vogel plants as well as the Wandsley plant, which is also one of the plants that we um run almost 24-7.

Addison is um a another plant that it's a dual cycle plant that um we um utilize it has a much typically a much higher cost, so we only utilize that in special um events when there's a lot of energy requests or demand.

Um the generation next um notice the schedule outage for share, which is the coal plant should have begun April 4th.

Did that outage begin?

Do you know for the share?

Um Sure, it did um it did go should be offline.

Um last time I checked, it did it was decommitting um derating, and but it had not completely gone offline, and that was last time I checked.

Okay.

Um let me see.

And then we have um for our off-system sales.

Uh as I mentioned, we had a um large uh revenue collection and off-system sales, and totaling almost two million dollars uh for the current month year to date, we're at four million.

Um those are sales that are outside of the MEAG family.

The NCP, which is non-coincidental peaks, as well as the energy requirements are the highest that they've been for the month of February over the five-year period.

So we anticipate those energy requirements to keep um rising.

And at the time we were not able to have our water report because we had not reha um been billed, so we will have that updated.

It should be in um the upcoming financials for next month, and that concludes my report questions.

Yes, sir.

Well, uh I can make a motion to spend the rules and add item to the second all those in favor, please go to running in.

Motion carries.

Okay.

I'd like to make a motion to um an amendment to the physical year 2026 budget to appropriate funds for the uh 2025 year end settlement of under recovery cost associated with the power sales controlled through MIAC, a total of 722,745.

Will be incorporated into the monthly prepaid withdrawal amount with the full balance to be satisfied within physical year 2026.

Uh this approach differs from the originally proposed 10 month installment billing period outlined on the invoice.

Second second, second second.

Uh any questions?

All those in favor?

Raise your right hand.

All right, that's it.

No objection to consent.

No objection.

Sound good.

All right.

Thank you, sir.

Planning commission appointment.

Yes.

We've had uh a few conversations, and um I think he's well qualified for um the role and looking forward to seeing good things with it.

Um you object to the consent.

Well, we gotta move it forward.

I was just I think it needs to be a motion first, but Mr.

Mayor, I have a question before it says the terms expiring March 11th, 2029.

Should that be April instead of March since we're pointing in April?

I'll make that change.

Okay.

Is there a motion?

Yeah, I make a motion to um appoint uh Bill Kelly in ward six to the planning commission for the three-year term expiring in April of 2029.

Any further discussion?

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

Any objection to cons motion passes any objection to consent?

No objection.

Good person.

Uh light post banners.

Yes, sir.

Uh we've got Rachel coming down.

We this is part of the 250th uh celebration that y'all authorize money to go to, and we appreciate that.

Uh, there are gonna be a lot of things kicking off with that that'll start uh this month, and uh with uh different decorations that are gonna be around the square, and this is one of them.

So good evening.

Uh yes, we um staff is asking if to for 16 light post banners to go around the Marietta Square to celebrate in with America's 250th anniversary as a citywide collaborative event.

Um the design, the logo is something that we're using throughout the city uh to show this participation and this historic milestone of the country.

Um also the website that you see 250 and Marietta.com is where our community um partners, um tourism organizations and other um historical organizations who we've been working with the past few months.

Um they have special events and programming as well.

So on this site, it highlights all that a visitor resident can do in participating in this 250th celebration.

So we are requesting consideration of approval for these banners to go around the Marietta Square beginning before the April concert.

Uh so April 20th to be installed that week through July 31st uh 2026.

That's the time period that we're concentrating most of our activities.

There'll be some outside of that.

There'll be some things that are gonna take place in the fall and early winter, but uh that's the main thrust of what we're trying to do.

And we do have a lot of partners as we just mentioned.

Rachel meets with them frequently and uh coordinates their different activities.

Um of the meetings have 30 to 40 people in them uh from different organizations that are are coming together for this.

So she's doing a great job of pulling everybody together.

This will be the same logo throughout your working with visit Marietta on the right.

Yes, yes, this is a citywide logo that even some of the partners are using on their 250th um events and programming as well.

As an example, the uh posters for the concerts, they do have that logo on them already.

And uh, this is one piece of it, but we're um still you're still letting the um lend other stuff like the state level or any national level stuff with the 250 so we can get that on out any information that we might what events we're playing and stuff, get that on out so in case other people know about the national and state level as well.

Yep, that's part of the marketing that's being done, and uh we we've got a lot of that out there also, but that website was an important one to get, which uh was a collaborative effort between the city and visit Marietta for it, but 16, why not 30?

I mean is it just full of square?

You don't go out with all the little powder springs whitlock.

Well, I think we were going with where the polls are already have the equipment on it.

We could, I mean, if you wanted, we could put additional ones on the north loop because we do have some brackets out there for Marietta Power when we do uh power week.

Um so we could do that.

I mean the brackets do exist.

That's a good point.

They're definitely a part of us.

I mean I think if we add it to spots where we have a high profile as a city, so just for y'all to consider.

Um I I'd I'd agree with the mayor on this one.

If we have a light panel, if we have the infrastructure get these on end, it'd probably be good to have it around where we have it.

Okay, and this is something celebrated not throughout the country on this.

So yeah.

Well, absolutely.

Yeah.

So how many more would that be?

Uh we'd need to count, but if y'all just wanted to pass this forward to uh um Wednesday, I mean we we'll know tomorrow we can get that information.

I just have one last question.

So you said that it goes from April 20th till July.

Yes, the end of July.

End of July.

End of July.

And we do with that also we've got you know that special concert we're gonna be doing on Friday night, uh, right before the fourth.

Uh, we're upping the fireworks for the fourth and doing that.

Gonna be a lot of other things going on.

Parks and rec is really involved in this and doing a lot for uh everything that we've got going on, but they're just a lot of other activities that not only the museums but a lot of other groups are pulling together uh for this, and we're jointly marketing.

Yeah, whether new veterans memorials going or near the National Cemetery.

Yeah, I know we do have uh at least one event that already has been talked about or will be done, actually.

I think they're selected the time uh for the National Cemetery because we do have some actual patriots that uh fought in the revolution uh that are buried in the National Cemetery.

So um they'll they've got an event that they're pulling together for that as part of all this.

Um definitely want to work with the organization pulling together the veterans memorial, definitely.

I don't know how complicated this is to add the other locations where it doesn't have the whatever to attach to.

My question is I mean, it makes sense where some major thoroughfares you're talking about if it's without or wherever.

Um would there be any other utility for using it after this?

Where if we put it up, we're not just using it just for this year, but we might want to have something else in the future.

This is my thought on that.

If we add additional not just the banners to what we have uh capable of doing right now, but if we end up adding them or you decide that we'd like to add them additional places with the infrastructure to do it.

If we have the infrastructure to do it, would we use it again?

I guess that's the question.

So we we do it in it's great for this, but can we use it for something else in the future?

I think it'd be great.

So that um Mr.

Mayor.

Thanks.

That's probably going to depend on.

I guess if it's the BLW polls, whether the BLW is good with it, then also with the uh public works, making sure that we're they're properly load bearer load bearing and whatnot in case depending on the type of pool, correct?

It is that we have to look at that on each one of them, but I I do think the point is valid that we could put up some more and uh get a lot more coverage uh for different events that we're having.

And so we we'll take a look at that and see um where we could do that and what the cost would be.

But uh I I think on some basis we definitely can do that.

Yeah.

Please do, yes, sir.

Um I could try the I can try the motion.

Um make a motion to approve to install a number to be turned by staff based off the ones we have off the ones we have and what we possibly could have as well.

So um celebrating America's 250th and Marietta proportional light post banners around I want to say Marietta in this case where the Marietta Square from April 20th, 2026 through July 31st, 2026.

Second.

Motion carries.

Did you have a note?

I I'd have to wait until Wednesday for staff to give us the number uh number of total banners.

So I can't I couldn't complete the motion on that part.

I think we can think we often just authorize in to put up whatever necessary.

Yeah.

We'll try to get as many as we can.

So I change your motion to say that.

Um to reconsider the previous question.

We took we definitely passed the motion, so we have to reconsider the previous question to change it.

Okay.

So motion to reconsider.

I'd rather go by thunder screen of order and just change it, but I'll make a motion to reconsider.

Thank you.

Okay.

All those in favor of reconsider, please join.

Motion okay.

Uh substitute motion just saying to uh the language of the mayor suggested about the number uh the uh number number you can find on that.

Okay.

Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor, please draw a hand.

Thank you, Mr.

Roberts.

Thank you.

State Health Trust Fund for the Homeless.

Mayor.

May I like to disclose that my employer is the Georgia Department of Community Affairs, and as such, I will recuse myself from discussion on any item related to the Georgia rehouse programming.

Good evening.

This is similar to our request at the committee meetings uh to serve as a co-applicant for the Georgia rehoused application.

They did extend the deadline till the 15th, and we were approached by the Cobb Homeless Alliance, which is the continuum of care for Cobb and Marietta, and they receive all of the homelessness funding, federal funding for various projects.

And um so they approached us and would like us to serve as a co-applicant for their targeted housing stabilization initiative.

And this would focus on reducing inflow into unsheltered homelessness, specifically focusing on those who live in extended stays and at-risk seniors.

Um Melanie Kagan from the Center for Family Resources, which serves as the lead applicant for the COC is here if you want to ask her any specific questions about the project, but similar to the Emanuels Village, it isn't a promise of anything, it's just uh okay to serve as the co-applicant.

We have a letter of intent to serve that was a that should have been attached um in the agenda.

So just a heads up to okay serving as a co-applicant.

We should know in about two weeks if the project will be recommended to do the full application.

I think we just needed to discuss to remute a motion.

Yes, because this is a separate this is something this is a different applicant outside the thing, I think.

I don't think we made a motion last time.

It was just a committee meeting.

Right.

Want to make sure the council was okay with staff pushing forward with this.

It'll have to come back to you if it does get approved.

Okay.

Okay.

And then you'll have to vote to accept it.

But if we were co-applicant, I think it requires a motion.

Whichever way you want to go, Mayor.

I I don't have a problem.

We just didn't do it the last time, so we're doing it differently because we are at committee meetings and we said just go ahead and we would take it if it came back to us.

If we do the full application, we would certainly come back with an MOU that would require a full vote.

But we won't find that out for two weeks.

We just wanted to know if it's okay to go ahead and do the pre-application.

There was a little difference in the last one in this one that I do want to point out.

Uh the last time they had not extended the deadline, and so there was no way for council to actually vote officially on it.

So we were kind of getting the blessing of the group to be able to put it forward uh because we couldn't have a meeting to vote on it.

This meeting we they extended it, so we do have the ability, but I'm gonna say for me that makes it more problematic.

I mean, if we should have done a vote and we didn't, then we should have had a special call to do one, or we don't need one, then we don't need it now.

Well, was there a co-applicant?

Yeah, same thing.

It was for manual village.

Yeah, I know we I disagree.

Either that or we just have both motions on the agenda.

Is an action and two wrongs don't make a right.

So in that case, that's in Robert Cruz.

I agree, but we we need to vote because we've already got one sitting out there that is improperly.

But it's okay.

I think if I better still you want to rescind I don't want to resend it, I think we need to if we feel like a vote's necessary, I think we need to do one that covers both.

I will point out they are due before the by 5 p.m.

on Wednesday.

So we still have time.

No, we don't.

Yeah.

Basically.

Does anybody object?

Yes.

No.

Anybody object?

You're taking no action, just let it vote taking no action.

No.

It's always good to see it, Mallet.

That's in time.

Walk away in our chat.

Yes, right.

Smart lady.

Thank you.

Oh.

I'm going with Andre at seven.

Legislative update.

I'm only allowed to miss up two things in the world.

Can probably sell the extra copies of so much interest.

So legislative session came to an end.

Um the Thursday before Good Friday.

Um was a much busier session than I think anybody anticipated.

Um a couple things maybe to throw out there.

They did end up passing the state budget.

Um the items that are before you, the even the ones that passed.

Just remember that the governor has until May 12th to take any kind of action should he choose to do so.

So that includes signing it, um, not signing it and allowing it to pass as is, or to take um a stand and veto any of this legislature that did pass both chambers.

So May 12th is that target day we're watching.

Um there is quite a lot of speculation out there.

I'm sure you've seen the news that they will go into a special session, or the special session may be called.

Um there both both parties are calling on the governor to consider it.

Most of that is for the election bills, but until he defines what that special session uh would be for or what they will do in that special session, anything would be up for discussion.

Um I think the bill that most of you are probably interested in uh changed numbers quite a few times.

Um and so you had heard us talk about House Resolution 1114, House Bill, um, and it eventually became Senate Bill 33.

So about 1115 on Signy Die, uh they took a vote on eleven sixteen, which is the bill that would remove property tax as a mechanism for municipals to collect funding.

Um and that bill actually failed.

Um about 15 minutes later, um the Senate brought back a bill, Senate Bill 33 that they had stripped the language out of and placed the property tax language back into that bill and brought it up for a vote again.

They did modify that bill slightly.

Um one of the things that they did, and I believe this was a hang up for uh well, obviously it was a hang up for some of the um uh Senators, um, was the three percent cap.

So that was actually pulled from the bill, uh and the bill then did pass uh as it was presented.

Uh it did get repassed by the House, and so they're waiting to see what the governor will may do with this bill.

Uh one of the things in this bill that would be concerning to Marietta is it would make the floating homestead exemption that was established in 581 in the 2024 session mandatory for all local governments.

So that would change uh quite a bit here in Marietta.

Um but um there are some other mechanisms that are in the language that would allow us um to do things that we don't have in place today, should the council be interested in, there's an L host and there's an alternative um uh floss that would be allowed.

So there's there are a lot of of what ifs in this bill.

Um and the bill would take effect immediately, but you wouldn't be applied until January 1st of 2028.

So because there are referendums and things that are required of the bill, depending on what happens, there's a lot that has to happen between now and January 1st of 2028.

Mr.

Mayor, may I ask a question relating to this?

Um with 581 becoming mand the that homestead exemption becoming mandatory.

Does that override our current one, or is it go we have to keep or do we just have to do a constant year of proving which one's better?

We're asking on individual property.

We're asking that trying to figure that out ourselves.

Uh there's an actual uh meeting that we'll be having uh with district three of GMA coming up, and uh that's gonna be one of the items discussed.

Okay, thank you.

Um and then uh also another bill that's very concerning, uh, mostly for uh utilities, public works, uh, the water department is Senate Bill 447.

Uh this would revise provisions concerning the control of soil erosion and sedimentation.

Uh it would focus on denial or non-acceptable permits.

Um it would require that local authorities provide written reasons for permit denials, it would change timelines for decision making, um, it would mandate fee run refunds for denied permits in certain situations.

Um the bill would also impose an unfunded mandate where we would have to create a web portal that details out uh building permit information so that the public can review said information.

So we'd have to create a portal to do that, we'd have to accommodate that, and we are um have already started to reach out to the vendors that we use for permitting to to inquire what what would take to do that.

We couldn't obviously offer everything, but we'd have to give some kind of visibility into that, those permits and the process and where they are in the in the process.

Um other questions on that one.

Uh the with the timelines and stuff they're being proposed in that bill.

Are we were uh we're able to uh keep and meet those timelines and dates correct?

Yeah, we're already beating the timelines that they have.

Okay.

Thank you.

It just doesn't give us that buffer should something happen.

So and then there is a list in front of you.

Um, and at the top of that list, there are a few highlighted colored uh items.

I just wanted to point out the reason those colors are there, is to some of those bills had changed numbers, um, and so I just wanted to make sure that people were aware that that number existed, but then was changed to another number.

So anything in yellow means that that bill continued on in some other fashion.

Um and then um to Councilman Kent's question, uh House Bill 1027 was a bill that was a particular interest to MIAG and the MIAG participants, and that would allow certain long-term contracts for sale of electric power.

That bill failed.

Um, so it it actually didn't even, it wasn't even brought up at the Senate, so they didn't even hear it on the last night.

Um another bill that's very concerning is House Bill 295.

Um that bill would apply would allow for procedures for real property owners to make claims for compensation for loss of property value or expenses incurred.

So this is really in that vein of some of the legislation they've been talking about related to sanctuary cities.

So if you're not enforcing uh certain laws and property values go down and it can be proven, then um a property owner could bring suit against said um local government.

That is House Bill 295.

So it's a the fifth bill down on the first sheet.

Um they did after many years of attempting to make changes to the speed zone bills, they were able to finally do that.

So House Bill 651, um it has been sent to the governor.

Uh that bill uh just changes if you decided to put speed cameras in school zones, it would change signage requirements, it would also change how long you could run the cameras in the speed zone in a given school day.

Um it would change um how often you have to validate that equipment is operating properly.

Um so there are a lot of if you if you decide to move forward with those, um there are a lot of changes to the law as we we know it now, including um what constitutes uh a fine.

Mayor, I want to make sure I'm remembering this one correctly.

Did they also add a referendum requirement?

It did um I will double check because it changed a couple times on the last day.

I know that was in there at one time.

I think it did, uh, but I will double check.

Okay.

This didn't affect the cameras that the posse have on the no, this is just the school the speed zone cameras, which we don't currently have today.

Um another bill that did pass was a resolution because it would require uh constitutional amendment, which would have to be passed by voter referendum was House resolution 1243.

Um, and that would be the way funding is collected for uh next gen 911.

So should the this will go on the ballot in November?

Um, and it would be collected by the state and then redistributed to the 911 answering points through that state uh funding.

This would be a way to ensure that I believe every 911 answering point had the proper technology to accommodate next gen 911 requirements.

Which bill was that?

Um that is House Resolution 1243.

It's on the second page.

Um it is about the sixth bill down.

Thank you.

Uh-huh.

Some of the other bills that uh staff and I were watching pretty closely were all also related to permitting.

So uh Senate Bill 437, which was related to third-party reviewers.

Um the House postponed that bill, they did not take it forward, and then Senate Bill 309 also did not pass.

So another bill that you all should know about is Senate Bill 406, which I think is on page three.

Um that bill um is going to allow for homeowners to have some kind of um resolution process if they get into some kind of disagreement with their homeowners association.

So that bill is on its way to the governor's desk as well.

And I'm sure there are more bills if you have questions.

We could go through this list probably for hours, but those are the bills I know we were most concerned about.

The city manager and I will meet with our consultants later this week to just go over things, make sure we didn't miss anything, and then as he pointed out, we'll also be meeting at the Area 3 meeting with GMA to hear what they have to say about the outcome of the session.

So that's a week from Friday, right?

Or something like that?

Yes, the 24th.

Yes.

All right.

Thank you all.

Thank you.

Yeah, uh yes, sir.

I didn't know if you wanted to do that one in executive session.

Uh move that to later in the meeting.

That's gonna be the actual uh purchase and sale agreement.

Then we would ask uh after it's been discussed, we're gonna ask that it be moved to the Wednesday agenda.

Yep.

Yeah, the contract for the purchase or sale agreement would be the subject matter.

Yes, sir.

Right, yes, sir.

Which is what it is generally too.

Okay.

So we'll let that one go for night.

We want to Mr.

Mayor, there was one item that uh just wanted to bring up that a public works had asked uh to be on the agenda.

Um it was mistakenly put on the regular agenda uh instead of this agenda.

So I don't know how you want to deal with it, but it's just a discussion item.

Um it's the last page of well, the next last page of the uh regular agenda, and it was the um Polk Street and Wind Street intersection improvement project.

Um so it was not meant to be an action item on the regular agenda, but it was meant to be a discussion item for this agenda.

So however you want to pursue with it.

I think we better just to wait to the committee, but it but it's on Wednesdays.

Yes, sir.

It would, I mean it would probably need to be taken off a Wednesday, but you could discuss it when we're reviewing the whole agenda.

Well, if it's on Wednesdays, then we're gonna review.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

Wait till we review in the minutes.

Well, we'll have the minutes.

We'll get to it.

So we might as well start to agenda review and like we don't have to add it.

Not at all.

And then we have person signed up for scheduled appearance.

And then under any objection.

Meeting minutes on the consent.

No object.

No objection.

No objection.

Daniel this PDC land acquisition.

Thank you, Mayor.

This will be a request that'll be before you in the form of a public hearing on Wednesday.

Um it's a request from Prestwick uh land holdings and Presswick development in conjunction with the Marietta Housing Authority for the rezoning of 890 Canton Road.

Um, and that is a property that's currently zoned heavy industrial, although it has a single family residential home and has never been used as heavy industrial.

And they're proposing a rezoning to residential high rise for the purposes of building a 68-unit senior complex.

Um, and with that they have three variances that they're going to be coming forward to request.

Um, one related to the front setback, uh, one to request the reduction of the minimum parking requirement, and then the last one to uh reduce the minimum building height from five stories to four.

Um from the back of the property, it actually is five stories, but the way it sits on Canton Road, it's only four stories, so that's why that is required.

Um and Mr.

Edric Harris with Prestwick will be here on Wednesday to present one question.

Um is this a is this supposed to be uh senior house senior only housing or something like that?

That's correct.

It's it's age restricted 55 and plus 55 and up.

And they'll be adding that in and putting that into the deed records and stuff like that as part of it.

Sure with the Fair House Cacts.

Yes, that's that's correct.

If it would if it did pass.

Yes, and they've had a history of doing this in partnership.

They've done um three of these that have been, or two of these that have been developed, and then one that's in the process of being developed on Roswell.

Okay.

No, this is time, sir.

Yeah, and that's a good.

I mean, the layer of that land is it does accommodate the four and five because it falls pretty good.

There's mostly medical buildings around it.

Yep.

It makes it to 41, I guess, or comes close to it.

If nothing, anything else for tonight.

I have a question.

Yes, sir.

So this I guess it's similar to what uh Marietta Housing does with the it's one of their joint tax projects.

So they would get certain amount of umchers most of the property that I know the last couple ones have had so many of the units.

That's right, it's a tax credit deal, so they have to abide by the income restrictions as well as the age restrictions also.

I mean it'll have market rate, it'll have subsidized rates.

Right.

Yeah, it has a lot of bells and whistles to take care of the people that live there.

Anything else?

The rezoning of 34 acres.

Oh, that's it.

Is that part of the uh executive session too?

There will be some aspects of that that we'll be talking about as far as the contract, but the rezoning itself is a separate matter.

And that's gonna go through the planning commission tomorrow night and then would come to the full board on Wednesday.

Is there a public hearing?

There is.

Thank you.

And that's tomorrow what time?

6 p.m.

Okay.

I don't think I understand from PCD to PCD.

Yep.

So um it's not changing a it's not the the zoning category is not changed, but there's a provision in which if there is a significant or substantial site plan change in the currently approved site plan is the IKEA retail space.

And so because this is a substantial change, it warrants the essentially the process of the of the rezoning, even if the category doesn't change.

Right.

Yep, almost 300,000 square foot billed into a lot of different surfaces.

That is the it's focused on the site plan approval, exactly.

Train roads.

Uh thank you, Mayor.

Uh as you will all recall, back in January, City Council passed a intent to rezone related to this annexation of 10.9 acres um based upon a letter of stipulation from uh Parks Huff that uh reduced what was initially 60 detached units down to 43 detached units.

At the time we were in a process of arbitration with Cobb County, um and after a lot of back and forth with the deadline looming, uh we received notice from Cobb County's attorney uh that they would not be uh pursuing um an objection related to this project based upon the site plan that we submitted.

Um we do understand that they're meeting tomorrow and they're considering um some uh conditions that they would request of city council um based upon discussions with the developer.

Um, but we don't have anything to present related to that because I haven't voted and approved anything.

Who is it?

They is a Cobb County Board of Commissioners they withdrew their complaint.

I mean, this would just be a suggestion.

I mean the statute of limitations run on their building.

Hope y'all knew that was coming.

I I have a question on this.

Yes, sir.

So the planning commission recommended denial.

That was of the previous plan, and I would also note that there are three variances listed in the agenda with the reduction of units, those three variances will actually come off.

None of those apply.

There are no variances associated with this request anymore.

But to put it bluntly, the fact it was withdrawn, that's the same as a ruling, right?

Yes, sir.

Absolutely.

Same as a what?

A ruling.

I mean, just yeah.

Because it was in the process.

Right.

And they'll I don't.

Yeah, somebody presents an amendment, that's just part of the process tomorrow.

I mean Wednesday.

So there were some homeowner objections and I guess requests.

So have they been addressed or are they still the plan that's before you now is the same plan that was approved with the intent to rezone?

Um I don't recall any specific changes made as a result of uh nearby resident feedback.

You thought I missed things up.

I never thought that else.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And the next two items that deal with the annexation.

Yes, sir.

Next item is uh Malone's automotive.

Uh thank you, Mayor.

So this is an item that was before you at the last work session, but then when was then tabled from uh the March council meeting to the April council meeting.

Uh the facts of the case are the same as they were back then.

Uh Malone's automotive is requesting the annexation and rezoning of a property uh currently in Cobb County in order to develop an auto repair um shop that would serve their existing um auto sales um uh complex, which is nearby, and along with that they have five variances which we have uh laid out there that would need to be addressed in order for it to be approved.

Um just to quickly touch on those, we have um auto repair business within 200 feet of residential reduction of the buffer uh from 40 feet to five feet, increase allowable on pervious surface um by uh point five percent, and then a variance to reduce the required landscaping from 15 percent to six, and then um to disturb existing visit vegetation within the buffer area.

Uh but no facts of the case have changed since you last um would have reviewed it ahead of the most recent council meeting.

We come back to the residential that got turned down years ago that's right behind this, you know, going over toward I guess Low Ross.

Is there a is that a county subdivision or city?

Wait, were they trying to annex it?

I think that was the case.

Uh the on the other side of the street, right across from the gas station.

Yeah, county subdivision.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was part of rejection by the county then too, but there were a lot of other reasons.

Um that particular subdivision.

Anything for tonight?

Anything you need to ask.

Um there's uh no stipulation letter at this time, correct?

That's correct.

Okay.

Just wondering.

Twenty some acres or that's the next two are annexation items.

Oh, then the code amendment.

Any comments on the comment for tonight?

And the lane of which I have with the committee.

The last code amendments are related to the annexation, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Um I do have a disclosure relating to one of the denial of claims.

Um just disclose that Jessica Lee Jones is a tenant of a member of my family.

Yeah, it's a business relationship.

There's no financial thing between this and this, though.

Any objection?

Putting you would you like these on yes, sir?

All four of them, please.

No objection.

No objection.

So consent sounds good.

All four.

Next four items are on consent.

On page nine, all six are on consent.

Mayor, if I if I'm if I might quickly um speak to one of those items that's on consent, just to make city council aware.

Um it's the 2026030, which is the revised detail plan for Marietta Reserve.

Um both this item and the following item are currently on consent to be sent back to development services to be advertised.

I would just wanted to make you aware um the applicant provided some additional information that we included in the packet, which is essentially additional context related to their request for the um for the increased um building size, which led to a reduction in uh space between the homes and provided some additional information about the the lack of impact on um any uh any uh uh open space requirements that they would have as well.

There they have a representative here.

I understand it's on consent, and so just to make you aware.

Oh, I'm sorry, this is for the Marietta Reserve, which is the Dura Drive.

Okay, the one that got a new builder or something and they made a bunch of changes.

Try it again.

Okay.

We knew that was coming too.

Uh decided to do it, do no vote or does that need to be a public error?

Well to send it back, no, sir.

It would just send it back to it.

Just send it back so we can get on to the appropriate thing.

Our motion was just to send it back.

They're gonna have to re-advertise it.

It'll start over with public hearings.

Good.

That was that was our we'll have further conversation on this Wednesday, correct?

Put this side.

What is it?

It's on consent.

No, it's on consent.

Yeah.

You can take it off consent and have discussion.

We will have a public hearing later, though.

Yeah.

The consent is to put it back to zoning.

So based on what I've heard about it, I'm wondering if it needs to go back to 70.

That's my question.

I don't think the changes were as much as we were thinking.

What you can do is take it off consent.

Take it off consent.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Just to help.

I mean, you can take it off consent one way or the other, but you do you think it should we ought to vote on it?

I mean, but we don't know what we're voting on until it goes.

But don't we already know what we're voting on?

It was just the the change of the the width in between the homes and the size of the and the missing something.

Those aren't casual.

I mean, those are major.

You've got it exactly right.

It was just the width between the homes.

And I think there was something else, but that's just that's a lot.

And now it's going down.

Six.

Six between.

That's what they're saying on this.

That's right.

The way it would be ten feet between homes now to a minimum minimum of six feet between homes, so it would be five foot setback to three foot setback for each property line.

That's why we had said send it back.

It was significant enough.

Okay.

And you're saying there's new stuff in our packet?

Yes.

A letter dated March 27th.

It's right after the it's right after the uh title page under the for under the detail plan mo uh detail plan one.

Yeah, it's a revised narrative provided by Gaskins uh lacraw.

But you're welcome to take it off consent.

If we can't take it off consent.

Okay.

Any member can that's Marietta reserve.

Yeah, that'd be the detail plan and the final file.

Both of them would be you discuss it Wednesday night.

And I guess ask for them to approve it.

Yes, sir.

Let me I don't think that Q or what?

I mean that was a motion.

We basically denied their changes by not accepting them.

So I think we'd have to rescind last month's vote.

Or did we do it in a committee?

It was committees.

This was a this was a motion out of committees at the JL committee in March.

So that's the reason why it's on this agenda tonight.

And why why it hadn't gotten to the point of getting back to public hearing yet because the committee couldn't take the action itself, had to be full council action.

Okay, so so in a way it hadn't been reversed.

Correct.

Nothing is it is before us.

So the committee basically been could possibly be overridden.

And would that make the motion to go forward good?

It still would have to go back to council.

Correct.

Because what they asked for was not approved.

Correct.

This motion does not reverse.

Well the city council hasn't taken a uh an a motion yet.

Okay.

What this would do is send it back.

We're we're re rescending the committee's recommendation.

Correct.

If it passes, it would override it.

Yeah.

If it passes differently than that than as stated on the agenda.

It will come up as a discussion item Wednesday night.

That's what you're getting it because the motion to approve what they asked for committee wasn't approved.

Right.

Is that right, Joseph?

I don't remember what.

The the mo the motion was instead of maybe instead of it being a motion to approve, it was a motion to refer it back to refer it back to development services for the public hearing.

So right now the current committee, that's the current committee recommendation, and that's why it appears on the council agenda as such.

The item itself is still up for discussion, I would assume.

So could be changed to vote to approve if the council wanted or vote to deny or vote to uh not accept it, just it the item itself is before the council at this point.

It's a neutral item that still needs a vote.

It needs discussion, but it's not on the agenda to just to take action.

When they said we could add the same, but we're gonna change the size of the lot, the size of the distance.

That did not pass the committee.

No, the no recommendation to approve it came out of committee.

The committee recommended to refer it.

That was that's what the committee that was the committee's recommended motion on the item.

Um they recommended no action.

They recommended it get referred to the development services.

They didn't recommend they approved it.

They'd not recommend it.

Let me see.

We could we could turn this down and then make a subject motion to approve it.

But that wouldn't be cricket.

Um the revised detail plan require a public hearing.

Um in many cases it would not.

Um certainly council has the purview to require a public hearing in that case.

Um I I don't believe the initial detail plan on this project was done via public hearing.

Okay.

The um Mr.

Mayor, if I may remote, but go in because the I'm trying to remember something.

I know there is a change in the zoning law at some point in time regarding uh variances approved as part of a rezoning.

If you can't if uh prior to that, prior to a certain effective date of those res or institutional rezonings, it wouldn't affect it, but past that point.

I think it the any changes at those variances have to come through the full rezoning process.

Does that sound familiar to the chain a change in law that happened in the past two years?

I think it does.

Okay.

This has never had a public hearing, correct?

Well, I I think at some point it's got to have a public hearing if you're going to uh approve this, these changes.

Just because of the mainly because of the variance that they're also asking for.

Yes, sir.

Correct.

You discussed variants that at public hearings.

Yeah.

Then means even if we take it off as it is, we can't vote on it on Wednesday because we don't have enough time to advertise a public hearing.

Correct.

So no matter what, it's gonna be at least a month.

Right.

We have to have a public hearing, we have to advertise it.

And you're saying there's no reason to take it off consent.

No, no, I'm saying no problem taking it off, but just know that if we do that, it's not going to be for vote.

It's going to be to move it to next month and advertise for a public hearing.

Because we have to have it.

Correct.

I mean, Map is it?

Even though there's no bad intent of the people presenting it, it's a bait and switch, and you just seem to something else that is being presented, and we've already considered you might not think that the changes are significant, but I do.

And because they require variances.

Nothing against them.

The new owners got to try to sell it, but we were looking at one thing and something different has come up.

Understood.

And I I think it requires a dignity of here.

Yep.

Can we ask Mr.

Moore some of those details?

Can we do that tonight?

Is he the one that represents them for this one?

Yeah.

Well, the whole purpose of a public hearing is open and transparent.

So the public hearing you could only have one side.

Right.

No.

To have any form of public care without notice is not right.

It hadn't been posted, has it?

The changes.

No, sir, it's not.

That's what we were going to do following this vote, assuming it went in the affirmative.

We were going to post the property to that end and then advertise for a public hearing as we would in any zoning case.

So that'll be what we do if that motion stands and passes from counsel.

So we couldn't even discuss it on Wednesday then.

That's what I'm saying.

In two days?

Yeah, we couldn't do it.

Ask any questions or dig into it then either.

Right.

Right.

Okay.

It would be next month.

So the only options would be that it goes through development services and then comes to us, or that we table it for a month and put it back on with a public hearing.

But either way, we got to give 30 days for a public hearing.

So nothing's going to happen Wednesday either way.

If we can't hear anything on Wednesday, then keep it on.

Keep it on consent.

I mean, I was just wanting to get more information.

Yeah, we're we're kind of hands tied right now.

Yeah, this was a long way to get to the answer of what we were looking for.

Okay, we can't discuss it, so we'll keep it on.

Okay.

And get there from here.

Right.

Yeah.

So it's on conceal.

Okay.

Okay.

Any of those?

No objections.

Stuart circle.

Mr.

Mayor, we don't have any new information on that.

Uh signs have been posted for the public hearing, and we'll be ready to present Wednesday night.

Cup grant.

Good evening with the uh FIFA World Cup uh coming to Marietta's for practice facility.

Uh last year we applied for a grant and it has been awarded to us.

There was a delay in the award because of the government shutdown.

But we applied for uh we shot large on it knowing that we wouldn't expend all these funds.

But we applied for the grant and was approved for a 963,701 dollar grant, which would fund overtime uh for police and fire to some extent.

Uh equipment supplies and medical equipment.

Um everything that would be purchased, none of that is anything that would cost us year to year.

I know that's a question you have often.

Um we definitely are not going to spend that amount of overtime, but again, we shot large on it so that we would make sure everything is covered.

We'd be able to use this to assist with everything that's going to happen along the corridor and Franklin Gateway, as well as city events that are approved by FIFA.

So we're here this evening asking or your approval to accept it, and if it's approved, we'll probably be ordering some things by the end of the week because it's uh we got a short notice here.

So I yield.

Yes.

If you're not going to use it all, do you have to give it back?

It's it's reimbursable.

We spend the money up front, the reimburses for what we spent.

So there are nothing to refund.

Mr.

Mayor.

Um I see that it says uh it covers the period from July 4th to August 31.

Is that the correct time period or was that supposed to say June?

Uh the the time period for us is really probably gonna be mid-June, maybe um second week of June.

Uzbekistan is the uh team that's using our uh facility on Franklin Gateway, and uh this is the first time they've ever been in the World Cup, and their odds to proceed uh to the championship are somewhere around 300 to 1 to 2000 to one, depending on uh which uh source you take a look at.

So I suspect that team won't be there past a game or two.

Their first match is June 27th, but there may be another team that comes in behind them to use the facility, so we have to really wait and see what happens.

It could be that they're a Cinderella and they go way through and win it, who knows?

But really, we're looking at about the second week of June till uh I think the last uh quarter final semifinal game in Atlanta is July the 15th.

So that would be uh we're looking at about a month if it stretches the entire time.

Okay, just just double check those dates, just double check those dates because I know in our uh in our uh backup our the material is in our packet, so it put those is the two dates in the timeline for the grant funds.

Right, that's that's per the grant provider, but I'm not sure why they would expect us to be doing much of anything in mid to late August.

Yeah, we we chief and I actually and on one of uh the majors along with uh the main security person for Atlanta United and uh one of their representatives, we all met on this and went through the staging of police and fire and everything else that we would need, and so Chief's got a real good schedule now of exactly when and where they'll need folks.

Good.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um sudden happens in Atlanta.

We go south a little bit with this cover situation like that if it got major.

If it was World Cup related, um it would, yes, sir.

It has to be related to the World Cup or some activity that they have approved, such as our events that have been approved.

If we just decided we were going to do a detail on uh Delk Road that had nothing to do with World Cup, no it has to be a World Cup?

Yes, sir.

Function Subject Five.

And the ultimate decider on what's approved if we put something in that was um questionable would be the uh Federal Department of Homeland Security slash FEMA.

They would be the decision maker on whether it was approved or not once we submitted for reimbursement.

Got it.

So does addressing the probable increase of human trafficking on Franklin Gateway special at the Super East?

That's one of the questions I asked to be answered.

Um there's a meeting tomorrow actually with the major collins and and another major to over our budget process, and they have a series of questions to ask about, including that including what personnel for the city would this cover.

Is it just police and fire, or can we also include parks and rec if it's a city sponsored event or public works is helping along the corridor for a FIFA event?

Can we also include them in the overtime?

So we have a series of questions, but that's one of them specifically because I would like to take a look at a detail if possible.

Um both drug and human trafficking.

Yes.

Yes.

No objection to consent, Mr.

Mayor.

Any objection to this being on consent.

Thank you, sir.

Congratulations on that grant.

That's big.

No objection.

No objection.

Are you gonna add that motion on the agenda under the B.O.W.

section or another business?

Probably understand.

Yes, sir.

Probably under other business.

We would stick it, I would think.

But that would be added, yes, sir.

Both those things are on the agenda and them.

Yes, sir.

Oak Street and Wind Street.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I think all if not many, if not all of you have been contacted by the school board uh concerning this project at uh Polk and Wind Street.

Um we have been working on this project since 2019.

Um working with the school and trying to get an idea from them as to what they were going to do on the school building the school property and and going back and forth.

First of all, we had to figure out a design that would work at that intersection, and that took us a while to figure out what would work without causing other problems along Polk and backing up traffic in the North Marietta Parkway and other things.

And so once we figured out the roundabout that would work there and and as the best traffic flow, then we began somewhat of a design there.

Taking into account what the school wanted to do at the time, um maintaining a uh dedicated bus lane uh to get traffic moving along wind without slowing down and and then working with the three corners there that don't move.

So we have uh the southeast corner with the cemetery, the northeast corner with the old fire station, and then the northwest corner uh with the school building there.

Uh those three don't move.

So anything that we do has to go toward the southwest corner of the property, um, unless we want to move buildings, and that was never our intent, or to move the graveyard or cemetery, which was never our intent either.

So working with the design, then we had grade issues.

Uh you get on the other side of wind across Polk, that grade drops off there a little bit.

So we we this site has been very tricky as to figure out a way to work all of this.

Um again, finally getting the design worked, and um thought we had everything work talking to uh Mr.

Rivera at the school.

Uh he's been waiting on the school board to make a decision as what use was going to be on the property.

Uh I think they are to a point they're pretty close to finalizing that.

Um they have asked us now to postpone any utility work or construction work until they finalize that uh system or what they want to use that uh property for.

It may tweak our final design.

Uh for instance, uh, we may or may not need the bus lane, which allows us to move it just a little bit.

Uh may not take as much property that there.

Um so maybe some tweaks that we we can adjust.

Uh we don't have any problems postponing it, um, but we're kind of getting to the window since uh mayor and council authorized us to move forward to this.

Mayor and council needed to tell me, yes, please stop for right now and wait on the school system.

Um, but Marietta Power is geared to go to start working on the utilities this summer.

So if council wishes to postpone this, I need to give them the stop sign now so they can move on to another project, and uh we don't hold them up.

So um that's it in a nutshell.

I'm happy to answer any questions um where we're at uh at this stage.

And again, this is for discussion only.

Apologize being confusion on the agenda, so I just need direction from Mayor and Council how you would like to proceed.

We also postpone because that being four years.

I mean, if two people had were killed there, I wouldn't like that worth the day.

I'd that's a rough intersection.

I mean, whatever planted is long term.

Correct.

Hold off four years.

And whatever's gotta be done has got to be done.

You know, they were talking about the trees.

If they would build a bidder there, they're gonna tell those trees down.

I mean, I think we need to deal with some backbone or do what we gotta do.

If I can't answer the question on the trees, because I forgot to address that.

Um we have four trees there that we're looking at maybe having to take down.

The front the front two trees, um the root system with the utility work is going to be done, those trees are going to die.

There's just no way around it, just with the utility work, it's got to be done there.

Um regardless if there's any work on the intersection itself.

Um when they go in to do the underground work, they're going to kill the roots of those trees.

That was why we were proposing taking those first two trees down to prevent them from falling and causing issues later on, whether they fall out into traffic or they fall onto a building or wherever.

Um those two trees need to come down.

The back two trees may or may not need to come down again, defend depends on the final design there that goes in.

Um if that bus lane is eliminated, they probably will not have to come out.

Um bus lane stays, and we'll we're gonna have to see whether or not they have to come out or not.

I'm hoping they don't, but we'll see.

But the front two trees, utility work has got to be done.

They've they're gonna die.

Uh there's no way of keeping them.

I'm sorry.

And the utility work.

Um why does it help me understand why utility has the utility work has to be done where it is as opposed to the other side of the road?

So I just don't know.

Okay.

First, and then second of all, um, I assume those are old trees, right?

Uh I assume it takes a long time for and we're gonna impact roots on one side of the tree, not both sides of the tree.

Like, how long does a tree like that last but the partially damaged root system?

Is it 10 years, two years, six months?

Like, and can a dendrologist tell us what that looks like.

Well, we we would have our arborists look at it before we would start taking them down, but um each tree is different.

Uh of course, drought conditions all affect trees in different ways right now.

So we would have to have our arbors look at that and make that decision before we get too far into that.

Um, we we looked at different ways here, trying to not to impact or make least impact on on those trees.

Uh, I agree they're very old trees, but uh it's either the trees or the cemetery.

So I I I can't I can't not impact one of the two, so it's one or the other.

My point about them being old trees is their root systems have to be massive, right?

Correct.

Correct.

I just I just wonder are we doing that much damage to the root system or are we not?

And and what's that based on?

That's what I don't understand.

And and and I'm sorry, I did I didn't answer your question about the utility.

So Marietta Power has major feeder lines that run down overhead that runs down that street, particularly through that intersection.

Um they cannot span and get spans over the intersection, so they cannot, if we widen that out, they cannot continue to span.

They've got to put everything underground into a duck bank.

This is major feeder lines that serve not only the school, primarily the school, but the rest of them going on down Polk Street.

Um so the only way to protect those utility lines is to put them underground.

There's no way to span it.

Uh we had Marietta Power look at all their different options.

That is the only other way they have to do that.

Um there's also some that is the biggest impact to the underground utility work.

Um there's also some water line and sewer line work that will have to be moved for stormwater to work, but that's not as impactful as what the electrical going underground will be.

Yes, sir.

So if we how does the process work if we need to move the bus lane or remove the bus lane?

What would that what would that process look like?

Well, right now the bus lane will not affect the utility relocation.

As long as I know by January, February of next year, uh what that final plan is for the school property before we finalize the plans go out to bid, then I can tweak the plans before we put them out to bid, and I can make that adjustment at that point.

Um but right now it will not affect the utility relocations.

All right, going back to the project itself.

So I think we all in here know that that is the next East Blast is focused as the middle school.

So that wasn't the case in years past, but that is what you know they're planning on for East Plus.

So it's school stays there, or the school moves, either way, there's intersection improvement for sure because it's gonna be different than what it is now.

Question is what's best at whatever's there.

I don't know what's there.

But for example, if Big Blue Gym's side goes away.

Just saying this, uh I'm I don't know this, I'm just speculating.

Couldn't you just straighten out Wind Street on that side?

We cannot improve the site distance on the cemetery side.

And we cannot improve the site distance where the old fire station is.

If you leave it as um, it's it's pretty straight right now.

The problem is the grade differential and the two hard stops there with the site distance with the old fire station and the cemetery.

So depending on which way you approach that intersection, you can't see.

Um the site distance is very limited.

The roundabout would take away all the site distance issues.

Even in rush hour conditions.

We did look at that, Mr.

Mayor.

Uh four-way stop would actually during rush hour, would have traffic backed up North Marietta Parkway all the way to Church Street.

So our answer was no.

It would not work.

Uh we looked at a traffic signal.

Traffic signal was even worse than the stop sign.

How is that?

There's no way to time it uh even during rush hour because of the volume.

Polk Street gets 5,500 cars plus a day volume through there.

And there's no way to time that signal to make keep the traffic flushed through there.

You gotta have something that just allows a continuous movement of traffic on Polk Street.

Right right in there.

Wouldn't the would the roundabout slow down traffic on Polk Street?

It will it will slow it down as far as a speed goes, but as far as volume, no, it will still allow the volume to keep moving.

It won't back up.

No, sir.

Not according to the computer models that we have ran numerous times.

Uh even running buses through that circle, no, it will not.

Got a quick question.

Um roughly, I mean, this is would you say price-wise, this would be similar to what we're doing on Polk Street and Burn Hickory with bearing utilities and the roundabout as far as expense of what something like this would cost?

This will actually be less expensive than that.

This roundabout is nowhere near that size.

Okay.

Do you if we had a rough budget up with today's number on this roundabout, what would that be?

You think you know we haven't really even gotten that far budget numbers because we're still finalizing plan, so I I'm real hesitant to throw a number out right now.

Yeah.

But it will not be in the it will not be in the same ballpark as Bernhicker and Polk.

So I requested.

So I'm if I'm looking at this correctly, where would where is the bus lane there?

The bus lane is down on the that bottom lane.

Okay.

That is Polk and coming down Polk and turning on to wind.

Yes.

You can see the hatched area over to the left on Polk.

That is where the bus is park for loading and unloading.

Okay.

And so then they move to win and then come take wind back out to uh Whitlock.

Uh that current turn or radius there on the wind is tight for the buses.

Uh this would smooth out that radius to where they would not um slow down, or they could slow down, but it's not gonna uh they'll have a nice smoother radius to turn right there.

No, sir.

There's not a need for it.

Now the buses can move through the roundabout.

You know, if they they come in any other direction, but the buses because they come up Cleburn in the mornings, come in there and stop, drop off, and then they come back out and they go back down when so that's that's the circle uh for the buses.

What about the buses that are coming from North Marietta Parkway to the school in the morning?

Do they drop off on do they go down wind street or do they stay on Polk Street?

I can't answer for the school.

I can tell you the bus route is to go down Cleburn to Polk and then come back down when they have to go down Whiplock then if that's the case.

That's that's what it's supposed to be.

That's what it's supposed to be, yes.

Now how the drivers are doing that, I I cannot answer that question.

So the the hold-up is the school hadn't decided to they have not decided what they're going to do with the property yet.

Whether they're going to keep it a middle school or they're going to repurpose it to another use.

So if we move forward, how does that move forward with this?

How does that affect what they do or don't do?

With us with us using the green, what is the undeveloped green space out there other than the trees that they're losing?

Um my personal professional opinion, it's not.

They they've still got plenty of room there to decide and repurpose or do whatever they're going to do with their property.

We've intentionally stayed away from any of their buildings.

Uh I know we're getting tight in that northwest corner there, but uh they still have room if whatever they're going to do to that building, uh, keep it or replace it or whatever.

Um, but we're staying within the right-of-way everywhere other than that southwest corner where the trees are at.

That we've got to have some right-of-way or easements from the school.

Uh the rest, the all other corners there you see, we're working with our existing right-of-way not to infringe upon any of their property.

When would the project be completed?

Uh if we stay on our current timeline of going to actual construction next summer, it would we wouldn't be finished during the summer, but we would substantially finish so they can have school next fall or fall of 27.

Uh, we would finish up late summer, early fall of 2027 completely.

So are we saying you have they're not in agreement, so we have to do imminent domain or no no.

They they've just they've asked us to hold off on doing anything until they decide on what their purpose of the site is.

Um our direction has been to move forward and to keep moving forward until this body tells me otherwise.

Um this is a tough, very tough intersection due to the site distance issues.

Um we get complaints, I won't say on a regular basis, but we do get often we often get complaints about improving this intersection.

Um best case scenario, how many trees are we losing?

Best case?

Two.

How long would it?

But it's longer than once they decide it's gonna take years to to build another another metal school.

And to plant it.

Yeah, but we're part of the process.

We move slow.

And so do they.

So when they decide before they have the D splash.

We're talking about waiting a year or four years.

I think that would that could be up to to the mayor and council to set a timeline and say if it you wanted to postpone, you'd say, okay, we're postponing no more than one year, two years, whatever, and then we're going to construction.

If they haven't made their decision by that point, then we're proceeding with our plan, and they're gonna have to work around it at that point.

So basically, right now what we're saying is you can kind of delay till January when you have to go to bed.

So we're telling them you've got about seven months, eight months, correct.

I mean that that would be I won't call it best case, but that I could I could wait until then.

Um but if mayor and council wanted to give them uh absolute outside case and say, well, we'll wait up until this point, and either if you have not made a decision by this point, or we haven't heard from you at this point, we're proceeding and we're going ahead with construction.

And this is what it is.

Um Mr.

Mayor.

This is kind of question on the ESPLOSS thing.

Since I'm going to guess that's probably going to be the year after the regular swast.

If I that's usually how it's been done, I believe.

Usually do the year after the two years after something like that.

I know it's in an off cycle from us.

I could not tell you what what that's been the next year.

Yeah.

So I don't think we're not looking at a long time away.

Yeah, so that if they're going through the same process we basically are going through with SPLOSS right now, they have to get their project lists in basically by about the end of this year, and then uh everything finalized by uh April to June of next year.

In which case we'll know whether or not they have a thing or not.

If if I could if I made a recommendation to the mayor and council, my recommendation would be to let us go ahead and do the utility construction work this summer, because we will not be disturbing other than the trees, and I'll find an answer from our arbors what that will impact the trees on or will or we're not that will allow us to get the utility construction done.

We can revisit this with the school system come first of the year.

If they still don't have an answer at that point, then I'll be happy to bring this back for further discussion by the mayor and council, and then you can tell me at that point.

Keep going or wait.

May I ask one more question regarding the utilities?

Regard or guard um regarding whatever path we choose on this intersection on the stuff, the utilities are going to have to be done regardless of plan.

That's correct.

And uh the general thing of it hitting that hitting around that area is going to regardless of how it looks, whether it some other whether it's the roundabout here is proposed, whether it's been shifted, whether it's something else, we're going to have something that's going to affect it.

Yes, no.

That's correct.

Utilities still have to be done.

Okay.

The utilities does not impact the final layout or design of that intersection.

Utilities have to be done.

Okay.

And it also doesn't impact any construction in the school or anything like that.

That's the reason we're wanting to do it during the summer.

So we don't, yeah, and it does not impact any their future work.

Um matter of fact, it may benefit them if Marietta Power can make some preparation for whatever future growth they may or may not do while they're improving their system through there.

Sounds like a plan.

Go ahead and do the utilities.

I mean, I'm looking for a comp.

I hope we're doing it tomorrow.

I've been on that intersection for longer than a lot of people in this room have lived, and I've never seen my wife is in a bad wreck, and I think somebody else has counseled to.

But other than that, we've lived it for a long time, and it's I'm more concerned about burning memorial than I am the tree.

I think that's gonna be more complicated to move that.

I mean, that's that's a perpetual agreement we have with the national VTA.

Um that's that's not effective with this, right?

No, we're we're not touching anything on those three corners at all.

Uh any building, any structure, what's up?

You're talking about you know if they cease to use that property, I would think it reverts back to the city of Marietta.

If they for the education could I ask one more question.

How feasible would it be to just make wind street going in front of the high school one way permanently?

I go there every day.

I drop my daughter off every morning.

I come down and the crossing guard will let me turn left or right.

It's not an issue at all.

I I think it's more of an issue when the crossing guard isn't there in the morning or the afternoon.

That's when you see accidents.

But if you had nobody, if you were only going south on Wind Street all the time, how I mean, wouldn't that alleviate room for the buses to turn in?

And I mean, it wouldn't you wouldn't have to widen Wind Street or move Bernie Memorial or any of that or the cemetery, you just from now on that is only a what a one-way street.

I don't know the feasibility or the legality of that, but has that been considered?

That fixes the southern end, but it does not fix the northern end of wind street and the site distance you have with the old fire station.

And I get that.

I just I you know I'm not you know scientists and studied all the traffic center.

I feel like most of the accidents are on the south side there.

I don't think there's as nearly as much traffic coming down, you know, from with the old fire station on the left and the gym on the right.

That's personally what I've what I've seen, but I don't just throwing it out there.

There's more traffic than what you know, won't you realize it could be from from the neighborhoods back up in there that are using that because they can't you go one more street down locust.

Uh you can't get out on the well, you can, but it's hard to get out from locusts on polk.

To try to catch a light on the north loop.

Right.

So a lot of them come back up to win to get out, or they go down to Cleaver, but most of them use wind then to get back out on the polk if they're going back down to the loop.

So it's there's more traffic than what you realize, not just school, but from the neighborhood back in there usualizing that intersection, getting out there.

Going down to Cleaver.

The last council member who said make a street one way, not do yeah.

You notice I didn't address one way, right?

Uh Andy, we'd have stop signs there.

What I think you should let them proceed with the utilities and then come back in January.

I like that idea.

Then if we had to renegotiate.

Then if there's light to end the tunnel, they can we can look at it then.

Yeah.

Just these flops, they're gonna have to have a plan.

Yeah.

All right.

Eight weeks to put it all in.

I mean, that's summer breaks about eight weeks now, isn't it?

Yeah.

So we have yet to approve a plan, right?

Right.

No, sir.

You we I have not brought the final plan back to Mayor and Council waiting on the school system to tell me I want to try to get an idea from them.

So uh this is probably the first time you guys have actually even seen a concept of this because I've been waiting on the school system.

So umce I knew what the school system was going to do, then other than me putting a little snapshot in our regular splost update showing kind of what this was going to be.

But you're right, Mr.

Mayor.

No, you guys have not approved the final plan for this yet.

Um so you you would still have to do that once we know for sure what that final plan is going to be.

I think that the utilities make sense considering no matter what.

No matter what the improvement is, unless we go one way street, I guess.

Um we're gonna rename it T Henderson one way street.

Um reversible lane.

These giving the prayer Wednesday night, so um other than something we haven't seen here like that.

Um it makes the utilities make sense because it's gonna have to be done no matter at some point there's gonna be an improvement.

That's good that gives us options, all right.

It gives us time to talk.

That's them to lay out what the plan is, but then we're not delayed by a year when we know what that plan is.

And just as part of it, make sure we're consulting with the arborists, checking out and see what we can do with the trees and all that kind of stuff.

I think definitely see what we can save, see what we can't do our best.

Yes, and we'll we'll start involving the arbores now that because I I kind of pumped the brakes a little bit knowing we're gonna have this conversation, so now that I kind of know why we're moving forward, I'll go back and get the arbiters back involved in this, and we'll and also not produce a obligation to cure a bad intersection.

So now that I kind of know why we're moving forward, I'll go back and get the arbors back involved in this, and we'll and also I produce a obligation to cure a bad intersection.

That's correct.

I mean nobody's repeated repeated as a dangerous intersection.

Okay.

Thank you all.

Executive session.

Yes, we do.

Is there a motion?

Uh we would need to go in for legal advice and acquisition and sale of property.

Motion to go into executive session for legal advice and acquisition and sale of property.

Second.

All those in favor, please raise your hand.

Motion carry six oh.

We're an executive session staying here, all right.