Well, welcome everyone.

It's time to get started here for Mesa City Council study session for April 6th, 2026.

Councilmember Goforth is absent, unable to attend as excused, and Councilmember Heredia is on, he said.

So other than that, all their council members are present.

Council, you know the drill.

Item wants to review the agenda for tonight's council meeting.

I know we went over it recently, so are there any additional questions for tonight's agenda?

Councilmember Heredia.

Okay, hearing none from council.

We'll move forward to item two A is a presentation of Private Direct provide direction on the transportation budget.

Thank you.

Eric, who's this other person next to you?

I haven't seen him for a while.

Different role, no agendas, huh?

There you go, Edgar.

Time's yours.

Good evening.

Uh thanks for having us.

Um my name is Eric Kadarian.

I'm the transportation director.

I have Andrew Calhoun with us, the who is a deputy director here in transportation and oversees our support services group.

Um so we're here to talk about transportation.

I know everybody's favorite subjects, so um we'll we'll try to and yes, and uh we'll we'll try to keep everybody interested tonight.

So um first we just want to start off with our our public purpose that we've worked with, uh, the Office of Innovation and Efficiency here over the past few months.

Um it's really to plan, operate, and maintain Mesa's transportation network to enhance our efficiency, to reduce our safety risk, and to promote uh the longevity of our assets and our system.

Um I do want to note that this is although this is a brand new public person purpose statement, uh it almost mirrors what our mission statement was before.

Um, and and we did this independently.

So I hope we're on the right track.

Um as far as new outcome areas that that we're gonna start reporting.

Uh, we're really gonna focus on reducing safety risk.

Um in 2022, there was a proclamation by the mayor uh with city council to reduce the number of fatal fatal and serious crash um or serious injury crashes by 30 percent by 2030.

Um that that still is our goal.

Uh it's amazing to think that we're halfway through that that time time span.

Um we finished our comprehensive comprehensive safety action plan.

Uh we've started implementing projects that to help with that and doing public outreach.

Uh, if you see if you see our department at uh Mesa activities, you we will have a photo safety uh or sorry, not a photo safety, a safety booth uh that you can take photos and take and take a driver pledge to to drive more safely.

Um, and then also our other outcome areas to promote longevity and enhance the efficiency uh of our uh network.

So before we jump into the budget, I just do want to highlight some of the the great work that that our department is doing.

Uh a couple weeks ago we spoke of about our pavement management system, and so I won't go into detail, but I just do want to highlight that our our pavement condition index is uh well above our our target area, um, and that's due to the amount of investment that um that council and management has given to us to be able to preserve our our asphalt.

And I I we we think we have a great program.

Um, and so we'll continue to to do that.

Um, I also want to highlight, I think both the mayor and council member duff have seen a slide like this for the past seven budget cycles at least, as far as our conversion to LED street lights.

Um we and do you want to highlight that in June of this year uh we will have completely uh changed out our street light system to two LEDs, and we did this all in with in-house staff.

Uh when we looked at it seven years ago, we we decided that that we could take this this project on just to save the city money.

Um we have about 400 fixtures left, and they're all in the downtown area, so they're they're coming in uh a few different shipments, but we expect to be finished in June.

Also, we want to highlight uh three years ago we we were approved to uh bring an in-house concrete crew back into the to the city.

Um we were noticing that our concrete contractor um just just with uh materials and the number of workers they had weren't getting to to things quite as quickly as we were looking, especially buckled sidewalks.

I was taking uh uh in excess of 30 days to repair buckled sidewalks.

Uh we stood up an in-house concrete crew this past year.

We got all their equipment also with them.

Um and we've got our response time for for these in-house, you know, for buckled sidewalks to be 10 days.

Um, and we're also doing a lot of smaller projects that typically we would have paid the contractor that our crews are getting the experience and being able to handle more and more uh as as the years go on.

And mayor, can I just say to that point, I I appreciate Eric and and his staff continuing to evaluate that.

And it goes to the question that um council member Taylor had raised about street sweeping and evaluating uh when we use in-house and external, and and those are the types of things that Eric and his staff are are looking at constantly to see can it be more timely, can it be more cost effective for in-house versus contracted services on that?

So just wanted to appreciate them for continuing to keep an eye on which way is better way to do it.

And that could change over time, right?

Sometimes depending on economic conditions and other things, um we might get better bang for the buck going external, and then other times it it may be more efficient to be and cheaper to be internal as well.

So I think about 20 years ago we we went to a lot of contracted work, and just over the past five years where our contracts are going.

Um I think you know, now we're looking at can we be more efficient in-house again?

So another thing we we do want to highlight is uh we only have a few locations left uh in the city right-of-way or street right-of-ways that that we have turf.

Um we've been doing turf conversion uh, especially along Dobson Road uh in our medians to to replace grass with um low water landscaping.

Uh we've been as we've been going in, we've also been uh upgrading our irrigation systems so we're not losing water.

Um and when we f when we're going in and doing these projects, we're seeing about an 80% reduction in our in our water cost and our water usage.

Um and so this has been been successful.

I was notified we only have two more locations um in the city uh in downtown, and then along another section of Dobson on the outside uh of the road that we still have turf, so we'll be always looking at those.

Um wanna highlight what we've done with photo safety rein uh reinvestment fund um as each year we receive between eight hundred thousand dollars and a million dollars as part of the photo safety uh program to do safety projects, and we really have tried to highlight uh areas around schools, around where pedestrians are, parks, and um with a multitude of different projects.

I won't read all these projects here, um, but this program uh was started in in 2020 and has given us an excellent opportunity to be able to do smaller scale safety projects uh that we otherwise wouldn't have been able to do.

And so we've been really appreciative of that funding.

Eric, uh I'll just tag on to that.

I think it's important to note that 100% of those monies are used for safety type projects in the city.

And and I, you know, unfortunately, those who do get a photo radar picture pay a fine, but we're putting those monies to good use in our city.

So the lesson learned is don't do red cameras, you know, red light cameras and in our intersections.

And and so it is it is not Mayor, a way to pad our general fund budget as has been test at some by the legislature and others.

That's not the case.

This is this all goes back into safety.

It doesn't go back into our operations or into the general fund or into the transportation fund.

It goes to these safety enhancements that are identified by the transportation department as areas of of high critical need.

Is this a restricted fund or just to set aside in your own transportation budget for these safety projects?

So it uh we we just we get uh an allotment each year that that goes into to our fund, and then as we have these projects, we we transfer that fund into those different different projects that we identify.

Uh it's all set aside for for safety-related projects.

We we meet quarterly as a department to to discuss which projects we we have moving forward.

We have probably about a two-year backlog right now.

Um so yeah.

Great.

Thank you.

I have a quick question.

Do we also use any of the funds that are from um police officer tickets to fund this, or is this just only from the photo radar enforcement funding it?

Yeah, Eric, you can, I mean, I I'd say the safety enhancements that we do overall, you know, this this isn't an inclusive or an exclusive list of all of the safety enhancements.

Is that fair to say over overall?

Correct.

And um, so um the money that we receive is it comes from the photo safety program, not necessarily from public safety administrating tickets.

Correct.

Yeah.

Got it.

Thank you.

Um the last thing I I want to highlight is something I know we've we've talked about a couple times, but over the next four years, we're gonna be uh working with our engineering department to repave all of the downtown square mile.

Um we'll be starting here in a a few weeks to do uh concrete improvements, and and then the summer and fall, we'll be working on phase one.

Uh but we're gonna be work starting in the the northwest quadrant of downtown and kind of working our way counterclockwise over the next four years as part of this.

Not only will we get new pavement, um, but we'll be doing new new striping plans on um some streets that that will follow along with um the study that that was done here recently uh in downtown as far as how we can maximize parking and bike lanes and um the number of vehicular lanes that we have downtown.

So those are some high-level uh highlight or high-level updates uh on what's going on in the transportation department.

I want to just set the table before Andrew jumps into our budget here.

Um but I know as OMB and and even um City Manager Butler is have been talking about the budget.

We've been talking about the general fund and utility funds mostly.

And the transportation department is I'll say a unique department within the city.

We don't really use either one of those funds.

We're kind of our own animal.

Um 94% of our funding comes from either the local street sales tax here in Mesa that's dedicated to street maintenance and construction, or highway user revenue funds, which are our state funds that are that are dedicated and given to the municipalities.

Uh this is our that would be fuel tax or uh vehicles license and fees that comes to the city that has to be used for for street maintenance also.

So 95%, 94% of our funding comes from these restricted funds that have to be used for a transportation purpose.

Uh we have two percent of our funds that that we use in environmental compliance fee.

That's that's the fee that that's on everybody's utility bill that that's in the city.

Uh we use some of that for our storm drain maintenance, and then we have other funding, that's the photo safety funding.

We also have some general fund dollars and utility dollars that flow into our department as we do work for for other departments here in the city.

So I'll just question.

Quick question, Eric, can we go back to your overlay project map real quick?

Yeah.

So I'm wondering if we start from the corner of Mesa Drive and University, and we look at that site 17 area there.

Um we're also gonna have cul de sac coming out of the ground at some point in time there.

Uh are really all those streets, those are some of those are blocked off.

So we're not gonna do all those, are we?

So, Mayor and Councilmember Adams, uh, it's a good question, and that's why it's last in our schedule.

I think we're we're waiting for for Cul de SAC to come in and get more established with a plan, and then we'll know what we need to do there.

Okay, because I I seem to recall there was some part of the cul-de-sac plan that maybe wasn't first street that would be not narrowed a bit, but okay, I got you.

It's it's out there.

So yeah, that's why we we chose to go the direction we did.

Understood.

Um, and hopefully by you know, 2028, we we know what we actually need to do up there.

Cool, thank you.

Yep.

Thank you.

All right, I'm gonna uh turn it over to Andrew here to talk about our uh next year fiscal budget.

All right, so as Eric talked about our funding sources, I'll talk a little bit about our expenditures for 26-27.

So currently transportation has 184 employees when we're fully staffed.

Uh right now we're sitting around 170 or so.

Um, and as you can see from the the chart here, uh the majority of our expenditures come from personnel or contracting cost.

And as Mr.

Butler mentioned and Eric, um we're transportation is gonna be doing a deeper dive in uh later this year in you know, in-house versus contract um services to see you know what what's better utilized and where can we better allocate our resources.

A couple things more I'll note on this slide.

The 11.9 million for other services, uh the majority of that is fleet and fleet related costs, um, and the five million um in the dark blue is related to utility.

So we're talking electricity or or water for our stuff uh our assets out in the in the field.

Um moving on to our financial summary.

Um important to note transportation's not asking for any new employees or programs will be staying kind of status quo in terms of the services we deliver, uh still delivering those uh good services.

We'll be staying kind of status quo in terms of the services we deliver, still delivering those uh good services.

Um we typically historically in the last few years have spent anywhere between 95 and 98% of our budget.

Uh we're trending that way this year as well.

Um the proposed budget for 26-27 is 58.9 million.

And the increase that you'll see from our revised budget in 25, 26, those driving factors are you know, increase of contract costs, um, some personnel increases for step pay as we bring new projects online, the OM that comes with the landscaping or or items like that.

And then we'll also have a six hundred, it's not necessarily an increase, but it does increase our operating budget, 650,000 from our lifecycle programs from the street overlay, which we'll have a slide here in a couple of slides.

Eric will talk about $650,000 from that is transferred into our um into our uh operating budget to cover some landscaping costs.

So about 50% of that will be for routine landscape maintenance due to contract increases, and then the other 50% will be for uh preventative tree maintenance.

So I think proactive pruning, things like that to try to address some of the uh storm response or limbs that fall off.

Um and then moving into our our revenues, um, they're staying about the the same as in the past.

Um the majority of transportation revenues come from temporary traffic control permit fees, and as fiber work has increased over the last several years, as is our revenue.

Uh but as that will kind of peak and is tapering off now, those revenues will kind of we expect to taper off as well.

Um so with that, you know, Eric had mentioned that our um transportation is unique and that 95% of our budget is restricted funds.

Uh, with that OMB instructed transportation to take our 2% reduction from our shared funding source, which is the ECF fee.

Um so that you know, we get about 1.2 million dollars from ECF funding per year.

So that 25,000 equates to our 2%.

Um, and we'd be taking that in our storm channel maintenance group.

Um, fortunately for transportation, we'll have enough you know, kind of savings in our her funding that we can reallocate that to cover this so that operation will stay whole and we won't see any um missteps in there.

So that's what our operating and and uh maintenance budget looks like for next year.

Uh we're we also have a couple more slides here at the end because I think we want to touch base or just touch on uh a couple different programs that I I think are helpful also.

Um in addition to our OM budget, we we have a $35 million annual lifecycle budget.

The majority of that $35 million is in the street overlay program.

Um but the this is um monies that typically go you you see through the CIP process, but we just wanted to highlight that not only do we have you know our $58 million ONM budget, but we have $35 million that we use to replace um those items and and pieces of infrastructure that have met the end of their life and and and need to be replaced in these different uh programs.

Um also we we want to you can go to the next slide.

We also want to just introduce something that um we've we've received a few requests from uh members of of city council for different types of projects throughout the years.

Um smaller projects that um residents bring up or have been brought to council members' attention, and we and these projects come and we haven't had any sort of funding to be able to fund them.

So we've said that sounds like a great project.

We don't know how we're gonna get it built, right?

And a lot of these are are on the active transportation side.

And so uh we're looking at introducing uh a new program into the CIP to allocate three million dollars a year for active transportation, smaller active transportation projects that when they come to us will have the the money to be able to actually get something done instead of waiting maybe three to five years for for a grant to come along or um you know a bond.

Um and so we'll be taking this and we'll be we'll be piloting this for the next three years.

We'll be using the reimbursement money that we get from MAG for our transportation projects uh to fund this program.

Um Andrew, if you want to go to the next slide.

I have a really quick question.

Sorry.

Um might be ignorant sounding, but is active transportation like walking, biking pathways.

Yes, uh Mayor, Councilmember Taylor, yes, sorry.

So um anything that you have to physically physically propel yourself, whether that's walking or biking.

Okay.

Um, so no e-bikes.

Um just kidding.

E-bikes use the system, but it's not that's not our target audience.

Um so just to kind of I what we wanted to do is kind of give a list of some some recent projects and and kind of the price range of of what we're looking at.

Um I will also say that a mile of shared use path, so a mile of canal path or along eight aught right of way, one mile is costing us three million dollars now.

So that's just um, but some of the things that we've recently completed uh projects, the Westwood Race Crosswalkwalk, you know, six hundred thousand dollars.

Um when we're looking at any sort of new crossing for a pedestrian crossing, it's anywhere from 750,000 to 1 million dollars.

So um with three million dollars, we should be able to to get to quite a few different projects throughout the city.

Um but we wanted to introduce the this program, getting any feedback from from council uh before the CIP is presented.

And mayor, I would just add that um, as Eric said, the goal here is just to find these smaller projects that um that aren't larger in scale that we we typically put on a transportation bond, and we'll have that discussion with you all in a few weeks as we you know talk about options for um November, but these are just these smaller projects that are you know, as Eric said that maybe close a gap or uh fill a different need that's out out there in the community and and don't really require or necessitate the need for a larger uh project.

How do they how do they come about?

How how do you what what feeders do you use for identifying these potential projects?

So I think a lot of them come through you and and through your citizens.

Um I know we we have a a few districts that are always asking for uh you know, they'll ask for a connection to a new section of shared use path or um you know in the vice mayor's district.

I know we have a couple crossings we've been talking about for the past couple couple of years.

Um so I I think the idea for a lot of these these active transportation projects would be community driven, um not necessarily um staff driven.

Such as the ones you and I recently discussed, that type of thing, or maybe something that came through the transportation advisory committee or um yeah, I I yes.

Okay, Councilmember Adams, I I think that those are the types of of projects that we could look at that um are more than just the maintenance projects but don't necessarily fall into a large-scale CIP project.

Thank you.

Um I talked about this when I first met with you for the department.

And I know we discussed that one of the requests I know that I hear, I'm sure some of the other council members hear this, is that the consolidated canal pathways that they be paved because a lot of people like them paved.

But am I correct in remembering that you said in some cases one side of the canal is mesas and the other side of the canal is the utilities that own it, so they can't always be paved because of is that right?

So uh Mayor, Councilmember Taylor.

So the canal, the consolidated canal is is owned and maintained by SRP.

Uh we will enter into a license agreement, and we actually have projects coming later this year to go under construction that we pave one side of the canal.

They do have a maintenance side.

Typically it's the west side or north side of the canal.

Okay.

And then we go on to the other side, and that's where we put our shared use path and and crossings and amenities.

Okay.

So for Mesa residents to understand SRP owns and maintains it, but we go into an agreement with them and we cover one side so that our our residents can enjoy having a paved path.

But we can't always do the other side just because it's not even ours.

Correct.

We we uh they they will always uh maintain um control of that side.

They they actually have control of both sides, right?

It's their their property, right?

It's SRP, but but they allow us to to be on there and be able to use it uh for recreational purposes.

It's actually what one of the purposes of the the canal system for SRP's canal system.

And our improvements to those often include are we covering the lights too, so that at night it's well lit.

Councilmember Taylor, any of the amenities that aren't there today.

It's literally ours that we do.

It's good.

Cheers, cheers.

Okay, thank you.

I have a question for District One.

So uh the Lehigh Shared Path, there were two trail heads that were in the last bond uh election, and we took those monies for the uh tunnel underneath Valvista.

Is that something you've been talking with him about?

Uh these smaller projects.

I don't know if the trailhead would meet the criteria and the cost of those uh for future instead of put in on a bond if these were something put into uh this uh for these items to be considered in the future.

So just something uh council member.

I I know that I I put that in your plate.

You did, you did, thank you.

And uh we've been speaking with some of the Lehigh community folks about that trail as well in that particular thing.

I don't think we've spoken yet about specifically with Eric about this, but uh I've been working with some of the community folks about a particular section of that trail that we might have some unique ideas about.

Well, the trailheads were designed, I know part of the concept, and then that we had to drop them.

So is that correct?

I think these trailheads are actually designed and ready to go.

We have designs for them, yes.

So they're so they're really shovel ready.

Yes, more or less.

So, Mayor, I I think um I haven't given any consideration to the trailheads as part of this program, and I don't remember how much they were.

They may have to be a scaled back um version of themselves, but it's something we we could look at as part of this project.

I think something to look at, and just I I'd like to know the overall cost of them because they were in the design, and obviously we had to step back from them.

Yeah Mayor, we'll follow back up with you and Council Member Adams.

Just nice for district one and a nice win if they're shovel ready, especially.

Okay.

No, I don't think so.

I have one more question before I forget to ask it.

I just really want to know what is a traffic calming project.

It sounds very meditative.

Uh Councilmember Taylor, uh, traffic calming project is any sort of project that you're doing to the streets to reduce the speed.

Um so uh on on the really traditional end, it could be speed humps.

Uh we've done other things where we've we're starting to do raise crosswalks or um building uh medians in the roadway to to slow traffic down.

Okay, that was very helpful.

Thank you.

Well, I think you got off pretty easy, Eric.

I'll take it.

But but what I can dedicated funds.

Could you just refresh uh your overall uh reductions?

Uh is it just not filling full-time positions because you said that Andrew, you said 180 something employees and you're down to 1700.

That's sure, Mayor.

Um, so I think that's just kind of through the natural life cycle of and and the our business that you know, especially with a lot of field workers, we just have a lot of turnover.

And so the vacancies, we're trying to fill all of them.

Our reduction is um it's that 25,000 dollar number uh in our environmental in our in our um storm storm drain maintenance.

Um and essentially we will cover that with savings from from other areas within our in our department to cover that.

And and mayor, again, that's because this is the transportation fund and it um has such a minimal impact on the general fund um and in that regard, so that's why that's a much different number, and it didn't have the same challenges that the general fund had with the loss of residential rental and those other things that we've been speaking about.

But for the public, it is still covered by taxpayer dollars.

100 percent and and most of those dedicated as Eric was saying, so they have to be used for those purposes, and so those revenue streams have not seen those negative impacts that um some of the revenue streams flowing into the general fund.

So we've been able to maintain our street maintenance efforts and and other things without having to the challenges that we've seen in the general fund.

Okay.

So we're just not taking the 25,426.

Yeah, yeah, that's we're we're taking it away from the environmental shared.

Yeah, the the ECF funding, and we're replacing it with saving the yeah, the dedicated uh local street sales tax or her funding.

Okay, but we're not taking it, right?

We're just not receiving it.

That's the cut.

Right, right.

Okay, just real clear.

Okay, got it.

Well, I think of all the departments, I mean transportation, our streets, uh, everything that we do, our ride-aways is so important.

We all access them every day.

So thank you for the great job.

I like the PCI, especially on the asphalt.

I I like those numbers, making sure our asphalt's good in our city and roadways.

And I know we kind of challenged you to help look at other ways on some of our streets, kind of like Center Street McKellops.

I think we talked about that going north, and there's just other areas, but overall, we're just like our roads in Mesa.

I don't know.

Anything else, Council?

Good job bringing it in-house on the concrete.

Um, I know that that it ebbs and flows, but since we're familiar with how much concrete costs, so and and projects that take 30 days to do a sidewalk.

That's just such an inefficiency.

It should be much faster.

I was really excited to hear that.

So thank you.

Councilmember Heredia.

I I see your I'm good.

Okay.

All right, with that, uh, thank you, Transportation Department.

I didn't recognize Evan.

You're here representing the planning department.

Thank you.

Uh item three is to acknowledge receipts of various boards and committee minutes.

Is there a motion for that?

Thank you, Mr.

Adams, Miss Doug.

All in all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Mr.

Radio.

Aye.

Thank you.

Motion passes.

Next is uh Kurt Evanson conferences attended.

I know we've kicked that down the road in two meetings.

Is anybody like to share anything?

Thank you.

You know what?

I'll just share the weekend.

If we go back for we'd be here a very long time.

But I'll just share this past weekend, Easter weekend.

Um, there's a couple of events that I attended.

One was the Reed Park Easter Egg hunt, um, Red Mountain PD puts that on every year for the neighborhood and community.

It was very, very, very well attended.

And one of the spectacular things that happens there, among many others, is the Easter bunny arrives in a helicopter.

I mean, who can say that about you know their Easter Easter um celebration?

So uh thank you very much to Red Mountain PD and all the volunteers that made that happen every year.

It gets bigger and better, very well organized and truly truly enjoyed by the local community around Reed Park.

Um also downtown had their extravaganza.

And so I I went to downtown.

There was uh um celebration on McDonald's, and the Easter bunny just happened to hop on over after coming home to the PD thing, came to downtown, and there was pictures along line to get uh pictures with the Easter bunny there.

All the many of the retailers, the shops were giving out Easter eggs with little treats.

The main street was packed with people.

I'm um that's uh thank you to Downtown Mesa Association for putting on it on.

I know it's a huge amount of work and they did a great job.

Thanks.

Go ahead.

I just want to thank Eric if he's still in the room.

Uh Eric Mark uh Hirschberg as well, uh several others went on uh tour of Southeast Mesa District Six, looking specifically at transportation needs and street needs.

Um everything from sidewalks at dead end to to potholes and and even larger projects that we'll probably discuss in a in a future bond.

So I want to thank him for uh thank you.

There you are for taking that tour and and seeing firsthand what's going on out there.

Appreciate it.

All right.

I'll mention one thing that you the one this morning.

Yeah, this morning.

Yeah, yeah, please go ahead.

I just want to make sure you didn't got it on your list.

I do, Yvonne's really good about that.

Um you and I kicked off Arizona Tech Week kickoff with our economic development uh department over at the post, and so we did that, and it's uh turned out really well.

So we have tech week happening at the post.

So and there's more.

Um Arizona Tech Week is a valley wide initiative, and all the cities are participating, not municipalities, but you know, necessarily, but so many organizations along with economic development and chambers.

Um so we kicked off at the post.

That's wonderful.

Tomorrow there's all kinds of sessions on at the studios about expanding and scaling your business.

So if you're a business owner and want to get involved in technology and how it can enhance your business, please check out uh AZ Tech Week Mesa.com.

There's a whole list.

Thanks.

Thank you.

With that, Mr.

Butler, I'll pivot over to you.

What's our schedule of meetings?

Well, thank you, Mayor.

Um, we will be back on Thursday at 7 30 a.m.

for to continue our budget presentations.

But we know uh Mayor, you're gonna be out of town.

There's there's several others of you that have some challenges about timing.

In light of that, um, we're going and so we have both police and fire and our our two biggest departments uh from a budget standpoint, both scheduled for that morning, and we know what a challenge that would be.

So we're gonna move for go ahead and move forward with the fire department budget presentation.

But um it we're gonna postpone PD for one week to the 16th, so that'll be moved to Thursday the 16th.

But I do want to warn you that means we're gonna have a long meeting on the 16th, because we already had a packed agenda because we're not meeting on the 23rd, because you know we're all gonna be celebrating the state of the city that day, and so we're we're trying to get everything in, and so if you can we'll work with your staff.

But if you can help me clear your calendar on the morning of the 16th, it could be a long one.

We'll get food and snacks and hopefully we won't be there that long, but we'll uh we'll we'll take care of you.

So you're telling me I'm running the meeting on the fire department.

You're running the meeting on the fire department.

Fire trucks are gonna be read before you so just so just note that so Thursday morning fire department presentation.

Uh PD will be moved to the 16th so that we can get you know uh be conscientious of everyone's time and and try to accommodate more of you to be able to participate in such an important discussion on the 16th.

So with that, Mayor, thank you so much.

All right, thank you.

And celebrate Mesa.

I know it's on my list, and I'm yeah, so celebrate Mesa this Saturday, 10 a.m.

at Pioneer Park, free event.

So we hope uh folks will be out with their families and and enjoying hopefully some good weather on on Saturday.

So please come out to Pioneer Park and celebrate Mesa.

All right.

Thank you.

With with that, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

So moved.

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Thank you, Miss Duff.

All in favor say aye.

Aye, Mr.

Redio.

All right, we're adjourned.

Thank you.