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Mesa City Council Study Session: June 2, 2026 Budget Review and ASU Partnership Discussion

Council Study SessionsTuesday, June 2, 2026
BodyMesa, Arizona
SessionCouncil Study Sessions
DateTuesday, June 2, 2026
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Okay, council, we're ready to start our Mesa City Council study session for June 1st, 2026.

0:06

All of our council members are present.

0:09

Thank you.

0:10

As usual, item one is to review the two agendas we have for tonight's council meeting.

0:15

And that would be our regular council uh meeting, and then we have the special council meeting where we discuss the budget.

0:23

So with that, if you would go through our first council budget agenda.

0:29

We'll have a swearing in of the appointment of Jacob Brown as our city magistrate by our chief magistrate, Mr.

0:37

Umblie.

0:38

And then the items on the agenda.

0:44

Any questions for staff?

0:46

For tonight's agenda.

0:47

Uh huh.

0:48

Yeah, I didn't.

0:49

You do have a question.

0:54

Um I just have a question for Chief Butler.

1:01

I I had a constituent ask about um the uh importance and value of sick our our relationship with ASU.

1:09

So if you could just kind of talk us through what we've done, been doing in the past and why it's necessary going forward.

1:16

Thank you.

1:16

Uh sure.

1:17

Mayor, vice mayor, uh, council member go forth, so good to see you this evening.

1:22

Um happy to talk about this uh this relationship.

1:25

So um as many of the many here in this room know, and many people in the community know we are a really effective crime fighting police department.

1:34

We have a really, really safe community.

1:36

Um we have wonderful men and women who go out there every single day, and they work super hard to make sure that we have a safe community.

1:48

Um technology is another key component of that as well.

1:52

So a lot of the technologies that we utilize help us be way more effective and way more efficient in our crime fighting model.

1:59

And then just as important is the ability to analyze our data and ensure that we have the appropriate resources in the appropriate areas and times where they need to be.

2:14

So historically, what we've done as a police department is we were reactive in our policing model, meaning that every 30 days crimes were would occur, we would look at where those are crime crimes occurred, and then we would send officers out to those areas in about a 30-day reactive response to it and try to be in the area where we thought crimes were gonna continue to occur.

2:34

Uh we got to a point in about 2022 where we realized, hey, we can get better at our policing model by trying to predict and analyze where we think crimes are going to occur before they actually occur.

2:48

So we started researching nationwide.

2:50

Well, what could we do to improve on our crime analysis strategy?

2:54

And what we found is Arizona State University, who is just right down the street, has a really good problem-oriented policing component, and they have master's levels uh academia, master's level training for crime analysts.

3:09

So we looked into building a relationship with them, and we started doing that.

3:13

Um and that relationship started in 2022 where we collaborated with ASU and had highly trained individuals come and intern and paid intern positions for the Mesa Police Department.

3:24

And then in turn, we got a lot of the training that those individuals receive through their studies and getting their master's degree at Arizona State University, and it helped us with our full-time employees elevate their ability to predict where crimes are likely to occur, analyzing the data, create maps that our users can easily understand, and then as it went on, we saw the value in that and we started getting better and better and better.

3:51

Well, early on, we funded it, uh the police department funded it.

3:55

Um and after a year, after another year, we figured out that there was an opportunity to utilize grants to fund this program, and that's what we've been doing since 2024 is funding this through grants.

4:06

This relationship allows us to be effective, it allows officers to be in the areas where we know suspects are likely to be and crimes are likely to occur, and to prevent crimes prior to them occurring and make our community safer.

4:18

So did they did they bring the methodology to the city to the police department?

4:24

Or was that a collaboration and and creating it?

4:28

It's uh mayor, vice mayor, council member go forth.

4:31

It's a little bit of a little bit of both, right?

4:33

We we had the foundation of that, but what we needed that to do is grow and build upon that foundation, and that's what they brought to the equation is we were doing a lot of what we needed to be doing, but they helped us get better and improve in the process to make us more effective.

4:48

And you said there's two, it's it's two at a time.

4:51

There there is two at a time.

4:52

They are they are um paid interns through this grant, and they work about 30 to 31 uh hours per week for us.

5:02

Okay.

5:03

And and the grant covers the majority of the cost.

5:06

It does.

5:07

So if you look at what the the language in the grant, it talks about 224,000 per year, um up to 224.

5:16

Now the grant covers 184,000 of that.

5:19

So there could be a situation that uh we would have to look at the general fund in order to compensate for that, but we haven't had to do that yet.

5:28

And in fact, this this year, going into next fiscal year, we will be rolling forward about $30,000 of last year's grant, applying it towards the the grant that we're seeking right now.

5:40

So we have not used general funds for this program yet.

5:44

The grant is covering it.

5:46

Since we started the the grant, we have not.

5:48

Okay.

5:48

Uh we originally started this utilizing public safety sales tax funds.

5:53

Okay.

5:54

Okay.

5:54

But since you said 2024, 2024.

5:57

We've applied for grants.

5:58

That's correct.

5:58

Okay.

5:59

Appreciate that.

6:00

Thank you so much, Mayor.

6:02

Thank you, Chief.

6:04

Really quick.

6:05

Sorry.

6:05

I actually got an email from a constituent about this exact exact situation, too.

6:10

Um did you say we had two people that do the internship?

6:13

Is that right?

6:14

Uh mayor, vice mayor, council member Taylor, yes, we do.

6:18

And and it potentially costs 184,000 dollars?

6:23

Yeah, if you break down the way the grant is, the grant allows for 184,000.

6:30

Um what we are asking for is the maximum capacity of 224,000.

6:37

Um, in that is in that funding, there are fees associated with a relationship, there's overhead costs, but there's also a good portion of it that's covered with the salary of the individuals, the the paid interns that are working with us.

6:51

Okay, these are master students.

6:53

They are but we haven't had to use any general funds.

6:59

Uh like recently.

7:01

Recently, correct.

7:02

And we have 30 rolling over from last year, potentially around that much.

7:05

That is correct.

7:06

Okay.

7:08

Okay.

7:09

Um I'm just thinking, does this person made some good points because we were doing all these budget cuts and they're like, are we going to use general funds to now cover this program when we have so many wonderful men and women who already work for the Mesa Police Department?

7:24

Is it necessary right now for us to continue this?

7:27

However, if we're not actually using any funds and it's still being covered by grants, I don't I don't really see an issue with it.

7:36

So thanks.

7:37

I'm just articulating my thoughts now.

7:39

Okay.

7:39

I appreciate your time.

7:40

Thank you.

7:41

Well, I think on top of that, Chief, you know, if we had to hire employees to do this specific analyst or we'd we'd add additional full-time employees, which we don't have to, so we're actually saving the city on that respect as an employee.

7:56

And then that's why we're the number one safest city in Arizona is because of this, and number 11 nationally for the city and population our size.

8:05

So kudos to the analyzation, those people from ASU that work for us.

8:10

And thank you.

8:11

Thank you, Mayor.

8:12

Council, any thoughts on that?

8:14

Covered that.

8:15

Okay, on the thank you, Chief.

8:16

On the main agenda, is there any comments, uh questions for staff?

8:25

Hearing none, we can go over to the special council meeting, which will be uh to conduct a public hearing on the proposed fiscal year 26-27 budget.

8:36

There's any questions on that.

8:44

And as you know, we've over the past three months, we've had opportunities to weigh in as council, meeting with staff, and Mr.

8:52

Butler has done his due diligence and having staff make cuts.

8:57

And and I think overall, Mr.

9:00

Butler, how many dollars have you been able to cut for over the past this year and the prior years?

9:08

Yeah, mayor council, because of the hard work that staff put into this with their work with OMB and and looking for those efficiencies, our three year totals over 56 million dollars that we've saved the general fund by finding those efficiencies by cutting um uh unnecessary positions uh by uh looking at tightening our belt, uh examining programs.

9:32

I mean, you you name it, we've been able to do that over the years, which I think has been part of the healthy exercise that any organization or any individual, if they were you know having to tighten their budget could go through and and find those efficiencies.

9:46

Um it it hasn't been uh you know, maybe the most fun for everyone to go through that, but it has really borne fruit and has been allowed us to responsibly get ourselves back into a situation that I I know I'm beating a uh dead drum, you know, draging a drum on this, uh um the notion that we didn't create this, this was done to us with situations outside of our control.

10:11

It was not overspending by the city.

10:13

Uh our budget was in great shape uh until revenue was pulled out from under us.

10:19

And you know, that's gonna happen from time to time.

10:22

But the fact that we had all of these events coincide uh at one time, that yet we had been fiscally responsible enough instead of overspending when uh revenue was at its highest to put that money away into reserves, knowing that it was going to rain.

10:39

We didn't know it was gonna be a torrential downpour like it became, but we were prepared for that.

10:44

So we're able to fiscally to take a very fiscally responsible approach of pulling down those reserves, still maintaining more than in excess of even our highest goal for reserves, and to be able to get our budget back into the black almost two fiscal years earlier than where when we sat at this time a year ago today.

11:05

So I think that really speaks volumes for the work of this council to challenge us to do more, to do it faster and to be as creative and innovative and as fiscally responsible uh as possible.

11:18

And so I'm really proud of the budget that's been put forward for your final consideration tonight.

11:25

You all ask great questions.

11:26

You've challenged us, you've pushed us, and so um that's the way the system works, and I think it's been really good.

11:32

I appreciate that you all have been asking good questions, even you know, up till the final minutes tonight, which is which is great.

11:40

And uh, and and so thank you for that.

11:42

But um we do have staff here to answer any questions that may be outstanding or or anything that you want to clarify before the final discussion tonight.

11:51

And so again, um thank you for your leadership and helping us navigate this situation, and we stand in a much more fiscally healthy situation today than than 12 months ago, and the trajectory is very bright for um for our budget situation in the years to come.

12:10

Very good, thank you.

12:11

Ms.

12:12

Goforth, I see you reaching.

12:14

Yeah, I would like um if Brian or Sam can come up.

12:17

We talked about this today, but I we've gotten a couple of email emails in the last couple day or so about um our reserves and the change between the um the February second presentation and our final presentation.

12:32

You told us why those reserves um the cost of or the the drawing down of the reserves almost doubled.

12:41

You told us back then.

12:42

Um, but not everybody watches every study session and they forget.

12:46

So if you could explain that again, and then you gave a great explanation today about what the reserves are for and how they're for known expenses and costs and and sometimes unknown.

12:57

So if you could just kind of talk about that as well, I think that would be helpful.

13:01

That I don't have a question on the budget, but I think that that might be not um I think that's an area that that uh there's some confusion about.

13:09

So yes, thank you.

13:10

Um mayor, council member go forth.

13:13

Brian Richel, um, director for the Office of Management and Budget.

13:17

So the first um question was about the the budget and the difference between what was presented in February for the forecast of the general governmental fund net sources and uses compared to what was presented on April 30th uh for the proposed budget that is presented to council for tonight.

13:37

So the if I'm recalling correctly, the net sources and uses was around 16 uh negative 16 million dollars in February, and then in April, it was about negative 36 million.

13:51

So what happened there was as the February forecast is a uh is what we were projecting what the um what fiscal year 26-27 may be.

14:03

That's a point in time.

14:05

So as we go through the budget process, um, as we meet with departments, meet with city management, get council's direction, those that changes, and so um some things increase, um, some new programs started.

14:18

And so, for instance, some of those was the redevelopment toolkit, which was three million dollars.

14:24

That was not part of the forecast because that wasn't part of the discussions just yet.

14:28

So, as those became, we put that in there.

14:30

So that decreased it by three million dollars.

14:33

Another thing was the uh MOU process for the SWORN.

14:37

So that was that happened after the forecast.

14:40

What we had to do is we had to put the uh the impact of the MOU negotiations in there was which was about five million dollars.

14:46

So there's eight million dollars right there.

14:48

Also uh we had transit um was able to finalize some of the contract costs, which increased.

14:55

That's 2.2 million.

15:00

So those types of things that we get information as we go through the budget process are added, and so once we add those, then we've were able to finalize the proposed budget, which would be presented today.

15:09

So that that's the difference to why we went from 16 million to 36 million is some of those adjustments that were made.

15:15

Another one is um we've increased some of the department's um base budget for, for instance, for the um internal auditor, we were able to add an auditor to help out with the audits.

15:27

We were able to add an assistant um city prosecutor for all the caseload that's happening.

15:32

So those type of adjustments uh go on throughout the throughout the process to where that's why the the number fluctuates.

15:42

Yeah, Brian, can you speak to the carryover too?

15:46

Because I know that was part of as you talk about reserves.

15:48

I think some people have been conflating carryover and what that means on our reserve amount to to how we describe to council the fact that of course we reconcile towards the end of the fiscal year and then carry over usually substantial funds into the next fiscal year.

16:04

So, yeah, so the carryover, Mayor and Council is uh the amount of expenditures that we know that we are going from one fiscal year to another.

16:15

So what we did is in the forecast, we didn't have carryover in there either.

16:19

So what happens is when we um that was in those expenditures we're um looking at was we're thinking we're gonna spend them in fiscal year um 25-26.

16:31

Well, what happens is once we know that those expenditures aren't gonna happen, then we carry those that budget authorization over, and what happens is when that we carry it over, that gets added into the expenses, it reduces the 25-26 expenses and increases the 2627.

16:50

So with that carryover process, that makes an adjustment in the net sources and uses also.

16:55

But those are only total.

16:56

Those are already contracted for.

16:58

Yes, Mayor, Councilmember Go Fort, those are already contracted expenditures.

17:02

Unlike what's in the is pulled from the reserve.

17:04

Those might be identified for a certain expense, but they're not already contracted for.

17:10

Yes, Mayor, council member go forth.

17:12

Uh good point there is.

17:14

So for instance, um when we pull uh funding out of the reserves for one-time uh purchases.

17:22

For instance, I'll take the uh the police radios.

17:25

We we replace the police radios every about seven to nine years.

17:29

We know that's coming, we forecast it, but what we've done is we've taken um little bits of the revenues that we've received in previous fiscal years, knowing we have that expense, we store it away in the reserves, and then once that expense happens, then we pull it out of the reserves to make that one-time purchase.

17:46

So that's where um we get for polling out of some of those reserves, is some of those we know that is gonna happen, and we're planning for it, so we're saving up.

17:56

The other one is for, for instance, for contingencies when we pull out of reserves.

18:02

We've already received those revenues in prior years.

18:05

However, something may come up.

18:07

For instance, I've made um the point of the Falcon Field when the Falcon when the storm hit Falcon Field.

18:14

There's 10 million dollars of unanticipated expenditures.

18:17

So what we had to do was take those reserves and use that 10 million dollars to then um do the maintenance and in the construction of those hangers.

18:27

So I think it's important to know it's for both known and unknown.

18:31

Um just like somebody's saving account that we we know it's coming up, it's not gonna be um spent in that year, we put it away for a couple years, then it's pulled out.

18:41

So it's not like oh goodness, we we're spending more than we have.

18:45

Oops, we should dip into the savings.

18:46

A lot of times it's known and it's planned, in addition to as you described it a contingency.

18:54

Yes, mayor and council member go forth.

18:55

That is that is correct.

18:56

Or when maybe the legislature changes the tax in a law and we we our our shared revenue or rental taxes reduced.

19:05

Yeah, yeah.

19:06

With with one important distinction, and I really think probably the one of the hardest things people have can wrap their heads around when we talk about city budgets, unlike a personal budget, because you just compared it to your savings account, and you know, people want to build up a savings account for that AC that goes out in the middle of the summer that you weren't inspecting, or that car repair that you weren't expecting.

19:29

Well, the the problem is that under state law, we have to set a maximum amount to compare it to be prepared for all of those unknowns.

19:39

And so that's why we have to set a high limit in order for the unexpected, because unlike your savings account or my savings account, uh the government doesn't tell us, okay, you have the money, but you can't spend it because of that storm at Falconfield or that unexpected repair repair.

20:00

That is the that's the situation that we're faced with under state law, is that even if we have the money, even if we have it in our savings account, if we don't account for that in budget for that, we can't spend the dollars.

20:08

And so that's why we fully load up our CIP, that's why we fully load load up our carryover, just because of those unknowns and those contingencies, that doesn't mean we're going to spend it.

20:19

The budget that you adopt still uh sets forth our our spending.

20:23

That is that is the uh the amount of expenditures that we have.

20:27

But that overall limit, which is unlike anything that we deal with in our personal lives in looking at our personal finances is the reality of how um local government has to budget under Arizona law.

20:39

And so that is the big nuance when people see numbers that um once the carryovers added in, once these other numbers are added in, we do that to make sure that we have the flexibility to spend if council gives us direction and authorization to spend those dollars.

20:56

So that is a huge distinct distinction between the way we have to operate and how you as a private citizen would operate and utilize your savings account.

21:06

And then in this case, we have 474.5 million, but you mentioned that 300.9 million is carryover from the prior year.

21:18

Is that correct?

21:20

And that was 169.1 million for operating and life cycle and 131.8 million for non-bond funded capital projects.

21:30

That would be that total of the 300.8.

21:35

So that big number that I was worried about that I thought we were just sucking it all up.

21:41

A bunch of it was carryover from the prior budget.

21:45

And then as we talked through the leftover 173-ish, you walked us through a big portion of that being um some of the things that we even voted on as council, but out of that was the 77 million for the contingencies, which you've explained.

22:03

We've had things come up, right?

22:04

That we've had to pay for.

22:06

That was very helpful.

22:07

40 million was for one-time funding.

22:10

So I think that what I needed to understand was that in that reserves, it's almost like we have almost like line items.

22:18

Like this is for our contingencies, this is for our one-time projects.

22:22

The 20 million dollars of the pension for the PSRS, which I think is really important that we keep that in there.

22:28

I didn't even realize that was in there.

22:29

So we're not actually like drawing down and sucking up all of our reserves.

22:33

No, yes, correct.

22:35

Mayor, council member Taylor.

22:36

Uh as um Mr.

22:38

Butler indicated.

22:39

This, so for instance, the the uh example you gave about the pension stabilization fund of the 20 million dollars.

22:46

We budget for that just in case we want to put it in there because as Mr.

22:51

Butler indicated, is that we have a maximum expenditure limit that we we have to follow by state law.

22:56

And if we don't budget for that and we hit that maximum, we're not able to to then spend that money, and then we'd have to figure out what to do then.

23:05

So what we want to do is very conservative on budgeting for all the possible expenditures that we may have and put that in there just in case we need it.

23:15

And if we don't, it then it uh it just rolls into next year or falls into fund balance, and that's um capacity that we just didn't use that year.

23:24

So that's where the um yes, the large portion of it is the carryover, but then we also have, as you mentioned, uh one-time projects that we have for infrastructure for the buildings around um the city for city-owned buildings that we have.

23:39

Um, but we also budget for, as you said, the pension stabilization fund.

23:43

We also have a stabilization of services um budget in there.

23:48

So just things that we're anticipating that may happen, um, they may not happen, but we want to be on the c on the um conservative side and budget for those just in case.

23:58

And then something else that came to mind, thank you, by the way.

24:01

Is I know that we on all of our budgeting material we have, you know, that that reserve balance, and you say, okay, we don't want to go outs, we don't want to ever fall below, I think it's 10%.

24:10

Is that right?

24:11

That would be like the lowest.

24:12

Yeah, so mayor, council member taylor, it's the the policy is eight to ten percent.

24:17

We don't want to fall below that, but our principal is fifteen percent for the general governmental fund.

24:22

So is that reserve balance separate from the reserve balance here that we're discussing?

24:29

Or are those the same thing?

24:30

No, so those are the same thing.

24:32

This so what you're looking at, what you're adopting tonight is the city, the overall city budget.

24:37

So every everything in those numbers is all of the funds, all of the departments within that.

24:43

So, but within that that those numbers are the utility funds, which we also uh have eight to ten percent as a policy, and the general governmental fund, which is the main operating fund for the city as eight to ten percent.

24:57

So all of those reserves roll up into that one amount that you're looking at.

25:01

Okay, that's what I was trying to make sure I understood.

25:04

Thank you.

25:07

Any other questions?

25:09

I think you summed it up, Mr.

25:11

Butler and Brian, that this is uh this expenditure is an authorization and it's capped.

25:18

We can't spend more, but we need to make sure everything is in there so that at the cap.

25:23

And we always spend less, and as we've I've known over the years, we've always carried over monies for the projects that don't mature during this time frame.

25:32

So thank you for the hard work for finance and all the departments here that are here as well.

25:40

And we hope uh Mark Hute makes lots of money for us on interest.

25:45

Is he here?

25:46

Oh, there's Mark over there.

25:48

All right.

25:48

Mayor Freeman, I have a I have a resident question from my resident, and it just came in, and I would I would like to have a little clarification because he's watching us right now.

25:58

Um he wanted to understand how we are budgeting correctly, other than the 20 million dollars, to make sure that we are best funding the PSPRS because of the fact that it I believe he my understanding is it's growing at a certain amount for interest.

26:16

So as that requirement is expanding, we need to be keeping up with it, and how are we?

26:21

I know we did a presentation on it, and I'm sorry, Sam, I couldn't remember everything you said.

26:25

It was so it was very robust.

26:27

So if you could come up and and just highlight that a little bit, that'd be helpful.

26:31

Thank you.

26:32

Great.

26:33

Thank you, Mayor.

26:34

Councilmember Taylor.

26:35

So for PSPRS, the way that we look for the funding is we want to stabilize our payments so that's known across our forecasts.

26:43

We are looking to become 100% funded by June 30th of 2042.

26:50

And what we're looking at is how can we level our payments until 2042 to ensure that we meet that 100% funded goal.

26:58

So we've done is we've taken a conservative approach.

27:01

Um we taken advantage of utilizing some of the forecasted amounts and brought them forward so that those are able to gain more interest up front, and then that's what helps kind of stabilize our growth into the forecast.

27:14

And then from there, we also adjust for changes in salary changes in investments throughout the forecast to indicate whether or not there would be some lost investments into her.

27:26

So if we don't see those lost investments, and this is something I occurred about two years ago, we did better than what we forecasted on those investment returns, and it only puts us in a better position as we look towards achieving that 100% funded status by 2042.

27:44

And Sam, you can speak to the point that we've this year passed the point where we're actually paying down the city.

27:51

That's correct.

27:52

That was the that was the big news.

27:54

Um this was we forgot during his comedy accident.

27:58

Yeah.

27:59

No, this was that was big news for us this year.

28:02

We um have moved away from the negative amortization where we were improving on our funded status, but we were still growing the unfunded liability.

28:10

As we've continued to put more money towards that PSPRS liability, we have now achieved where we're growing the fund assess as well as decreasing the unfunded liability, and I believe it was about 60 million dollars that we reduced our unfunded liability this year, which was a big step for us.

28:29

And we are totally compliant with state law with the the mandate that we had up to 30 years, if I'm not mistaken, for us to get back to 100% funded status.

28:40

The city chose uh 25-year plan in order um to meet that plan.

28:46

So we were more aggressive than what was required by state law, and then we are adding additional funds on top of that when when money is available to try to bring that down faster than that 25 years, too.

28:58

So we are totally um in line with with state law, and we are on schedule in order to retire uh that debt at the appropriate or that liability at the time that was prescribed under our financing plan.

29:13

So we we are not falling behind in terms of being able to pay that down faster and keep up with the level of interest that it's supposed to be gaining.

29:23

We are we are not falling behind from the assumed plan that we have to become funded by 2042.

29:29

And and that I I think several of us received an email from uh the individual.

29:33

I I know I was copied on it, and so we'll be glad to send them a copy of uh the presentation that Sam uh provided to council just in case they didn't have an opportunity to see that to make sure that they're aware of what our um outlook is and how we are we are like you said, we're not growing that liability, we're paying down that liability.

29:52

Okay, okay.

29:53

Thank you.

29:53

I appreciate it, gentlemen.

30:00

Well, just to add on, just this amortization that we have paying down our debt service has I think three of us on council, we voted for the 25-year plan versus the 30-year plan, and then not only the payment that we make, but we put additional monies on top.

30:11

Anticipating, Sam, we would pay down earlier than the 25-year, so maybe 22 years.

30:17

I don't know what it might be.

30:19

Mayor, that's correct.

30:20

Um, the financial policy that you all are voting on today, the financial policy states that the city will at minimum contribute the annual required contribution per the actuarial report.

30:33

What is that number?

30:34

You know that.

30:35

Ooh, off the top of my head.

30:36

109 million.

30:38

So that is what we are contributing with the full plan, which is well above what the annual required contribution is.

30:44

So we contribute more than what the annual required contribution is because we put an additional variables.

30:51

And if those variables miss, such as investments are better or payroll growth is as high, then all that does is it just moves us up closer to being funded earlier.

31:01

So one of the things that we pointed out in the presentation from the last Thursday was or two Thursdays ago was with PDP right now is looking to be funded a year earlier because of those additional investment returns.

31:15

So we'll continue to monitor those through the modeling with hopes that it will continue to move forward and we'll be funded at the earlier year if those investment returns and things come in better than projected.

31:28

Great.

31:28

Thank you.

31:30

All right.

31:32

Council, any other questions on both agendas.

31:36

Okay, hearing none.

31:39

Um I would I think uh Mr.

31:42

Smith item two E has been removed off the agenda.

31:46

Is that correct?

31:47

Yes, Mayor.

31:47

When you approve item two, uh it will not include two E.

31:51

Uh we were just able to load the information uh today.

31:55

So to give council and the public additional time to look at those minutes.

31:58

Um we'll bring them back to you at another study session.

32:00

So your vote will be on 2A, B, C, and D.

32:04

All right.

32:05

With that, is there a motion to acknowledge receipt of various board minutes?

32:10

So moved.

32:10

Thank you, Vice Mayor.

32:11

Thank you, Ms.

32:12

Goldforth.

32:13

Please cast your vote.

32:15

Aye.

32:15

Aye.

32:16

Motion passes unanimously.

32:18

Next is current events and conferences attended.

32:20

Council members, do you have anything you wish to share?

32:24

I'll share a few things.

32:25

It's been a while we've been, but I just want to get a couple of things right before Memorial Day.

32:30

Um, I did a ribbon cutting at Gougland Sun Splash.

32:34

So ribbon cutting for the Riptide, which is their tallest slider water slide, like 10 stories and 45 miles per hour.

32:43

You can go down in the water.

32:45

So then just in time for the summer fun.

32:48

So that was exciting.

32:49

Um last Wednesday I attended uh A dot's listening tour um hosted by East Valley Partnership at MCC, the creating a statewide transportation vision.

33:01

And last Thursday, I attended the opening reception for Mesa at War at Mesa Historical Museum, as the history of the British Air Force um that trained at Falconfield during World War II.

33:15

That exhibit exhibition will be up for a year, so check it out.

33:26

Uh I attended the DoorDash Robotics Academy graduation at the Red Mountain Ranch STEM Academy, which was fantastic.

33:34

Got to see Dot.

33:35

Get my picture taken with them.

33:37

Um it was pretty so there's Lego League, but this is on a whole nother level.

33:42

They get to code the delivery robots.

33:45

Um that was really neat to see the kids do that to see grade school kids able to do that.

33:50

Jen and I saw the sneak preview to the um the exhibit at the historical museum on the Royal Air Force at Falcon Field.

33:58

That was fantastic.

33:59

And the mayor.

34:00

Yeah.

34:01

And then the mayor and I went on Saturday to skyline swim um swimming pool to um to to watch and welcome Swim Across America fundraiser uh for cancer research and benefiting Mayo Clinic.

34:16

So that was a great event too.

34:17

Okay.

34:18

Thank you.

34:20

And with that, I was back at the Mesa Historical Museum on Saturday evening for the governor's heritage preservation honor awards that were the Mesa Historical Museum received an award.

34:31

Thank you to the city and others donors for the conservation of the auditorium.

34:36

And now it's uh being used as uh open space and event space, and so they're very excited about that.

34:43

Mr.

34:44

Butler, can you share our meeting schedule?

34:46

Thank you, Mayor.

34:47

Council.

34:48

Um, we will um will of course convene upstairs um at 5 45 for our council meeting, followed by a special council meeting for budget consideration after that.

35:00

Then on Thursday, we will um be back here at 7 30 a.m.

35:02

for study session.

35:04

Just a couple of events of note this weekend.

35:07

Um on Saturday, June 6th, uh Falconfield Airport's cockpit close-up is from 8 a.m.

35:13

to 10 a.m.

35:14

And they'll be celebrating America 250 theme as part of that event.

35:18

So encourage the public to come out for that.

35:20

And then also uh right here at the plaza, um there will be a skate party open to the public from 6 to 9 p.m.

35:28

So I know the vice mayor probably has his skates ready to go, and so everyone is welcome to no roller roller skates on this one.

35:37

So I played hockey, yeah.

35:39

That's right.

35:40

And then um council on Monday, June the 8th, uh, we'll start.

35:44

Well, the members of the Economic Development Committee have a meeting starting at 3 p.m.

35:50

uh that afternoon, and then study session will start at 5 15 um on Monday, June the 8th.

35:56

And mayor, if you can indulge me for a moment, I I want to um pay respects to um Colonel Bruce Crandall, a longtime City of Mesa employee.

36:06

I think the vice mayor and the mayor might might say something upstairs, but uh Colonel um Colonel Crandall was a very proud City of Mesa employee for many years, but he uh received the medal of honor, and uh Mike Hutchinson was telling me the story this morning about going to the White House to uh um to to join Bruce and when he received that medal of honor for his her heroic steer in Vietnam, and um and what an honor that was for the president of the United States to bestow that honor upon upon Bruce.

36:38

And he died peacefully in his sleep at 93 years old uh yesterday, and so um he was a very proud uh long-term Mason employee, and so we just want to share our respects to uh to the Colonel for his service to our country.

36:52

So thank you, Mayor.

36:53

Thank you, Mr.

36:53

Butler.

36:54

His service was well deserved during that time.

36:58

Council entertain a motion to adjourn.

37:00

So thank you, Vice Mayor, thank you, Mr.

37:02

Reddy.

37:03

All in favor say aye.

37:05

Aye.

37:05

We'll see you upstairs.

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Summary of Proceedings

Mesa City Council Study Session: June 2, 2026

The Mesa City Council held a study session on June 2, 2026, to review the upcoming regular and special council meeting agendas, discuss the city's budget, and hear a report on the police department's partnership with Arizona State University. Council members also addressed constituent questions, acknowledged board minutes, and shared updates on community events.

Consent Calendar

  • Council unanimously approved a motion to acknowledge receipt of various board minutes (items 2A, 2B, 2C, and 2D). Item 2E was removed from the agenda to allow additional time for review and will be brought back at a future study session.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments were made directly from the audience. However, Councilmember Goforth and Councilmember Taylor raised constituent questions during the discussion. Councilmember Goforth asked Police Chief Butler about the value and necessity of the partnership with Arizona State University (ASU), given budget constraints. Councilmember Taylor also inquired about the program's funding and whether general funds were being used. Additionally, a resident watching the session asked via email about how the city is ensuring proper funding for the Public Safety Personnel Retirement System (PSPRS) as the liability grows.

Discussion Items

Arizona State University Police Partnership

  • Chief Butler outlined the police department's partnership with ASU, which began in 2022. The program brings in paid interns (master's level students) to work as crime analysts, helping the department move from a reactive policing model to a predictive, data-driven approach. The grant-funded program costs up to $224,000 per year, with the grant covering $184,000. The city has rolled over $30,000 from the previous year's grant. To date, no general funds have been used for this program; it was initially funded by public safety sales tax and later by grants. Councilmember Goforth expressed initial concern about using general funds during budget cuts but noted that since the program is grant-funded, she saw no issue. Councilmember Taylor acknowledged the program's value in avoiding additional full-time hires.

Fiscal Year 2026-27 Budget Discussion

  • City Manager Mr. Butler reported that the city has cut $56 million from the general fund over three years through efficiencies and belt-tightening. He emphasized that the budget deficit was not due to overspending but to external revenue reductions. The city used reserves responsibly and is on track to return to a balanced budget two years earlier than projected.
  • Brian Richel, Director of the Office of Management and Budget, explained the difference between the February forecast (negative $16 million net sources and uses) and the April proposed budget (negative $36 million). The change was due to additions such as the $3 million redevelopment toolkit, $5 million from sworn MOU negotiations, $2.2 million in transit contract costs, and other adjustments including carryover and new positions.
  • Councilmember Goforth asked about the reserves, which total $474.5 million. Of that, $300.9 million is carryover from the prior year. The remaining $173 million includes $77 million for contingencies, $40 million for one-time projects, and $20 million for the pension stabilization fund. Mr. Richel and Mr. Butler clarified that the city budgets for a maximum expenditure limit under state law, which requires including all potential expenses even if not all are spent. The reserve policy is 8–10% of the general governmental fund, but the city targets 15%.
  • Councilmember Taylor asked about PSPRS funding. Sam (finance staff) explained that the city is on a 25-year plan to reach 100% funded status by 2042, which is more aggressive than the state mandate of 30 years. The city contributes at least $109 million annually, which is above the actuarial required contribution. This year, the unfunded liability was reduced by $60 million, and the city has moved from negative amortization to paying down the liability. Additional contributions may accelerate the timeline.

Key Outcomes

  • Council unanimously approved the motion to acknowledge board minutes (2A–2D).
  • No final votes were taken on the budget; it will be considered at the special council meeting later that evening.
  • Council received information and clarified details on the ASU partnership, budget reserves, and PSPRS funding. The city manager will share the PSPRS presentation with inquiring residents.
  • The study session concluded with a moment of respect for Colonel Bruce Crandall, a Medal of Honor recipient and longtime Mesa employee, who passed away at age 93.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, council, we're ready to start our Mesa City Council study session for June 1st, 2026. All of our council members are present. Thank you. As usual, item one is to review the two agendas we have for tonight's council meeting. And that would be our regular council uh meeting, and then we have the special council meeting where we discuss the budget. So with that, if you would go through our first council budget agenda. We'll have a swearing in of the appointment of Jacob Brown as our city magistrate by our chief magistrate, Mr. Umblie. And then the items on the agenda. Any questions for staff? For tonight's agenda. Uh huh. Yeah, I didn't. You do have a question. Um I just have a question for Chief Butler. I I had a constituent ask about um the uh importance and value of sick our our relationship with ASU. So if you could just kind of talk us through what we've done, been doing in the past and why it's necessary going forward. Thank you. Uh sure. Mayor, vice mayor, uh, council member go forth, so good to see you this evening. Um happy to talk about this uh this relationship. So um as many of the many here in this room know, and many people in the community know we are a really effective crime fighting police department. We have a really, really safe community. Um we have wonderful men and women who go out there every single day, and they work super hard to make sure that we have a safe community. Um technology is another key component of that as well. So a lot of the technologies that we utilize help us be way more effective and way more efficient in our crime fighting model. And then just as important is the ability to analyze our data and ensure that we have the appropriate resources in the appropriate areas and times where they need to be. So historically, what we've done as a police department is we were reactive in our policing model, meaning that every 30 days crimes were would occur, we would look at where those are crime crimes occurred, and then we would send officers out to those areas in about a 30-day reactive response to it and try to be in the area where we thought crimes were gonna continue to occur. Uh we got to a point in about 2022 where we realized, hey, we can get better at our policing model by trying to predict and analyze where we think crimes are going to occur before they actually occur. So we started researching nationwide. Well, what could we do to improve on our crime analysis strategy? And what we found is Arizona State University, who is just right down the street, has a really good problem-oriented policing component, and they have master's levels uh academia, master's level training for crime analysts. So we looked into building a relationship with them, and we started doing that. Um and that relationship started in 2022 where we collaborated with ASU and had highly trained individuals come and intern and paid intern positions for the Mesa Police Department. And then in turn, we got a lot of the training that those individuals receive through their studies and getting their master's degree at Arizona State University, and it helped us with our full-time employees elevate their ability to predict where crimes are likely to occur, analyzing the data, create maps that our users can easily understand, and then as it went on, we saw the value in that and we started getting better and better and better. Well, early on, we funded it, uh the police department funded it. Um and after a year, after another year, we figured out that there was an opportunity to utilize grants to fund this program, and that's what we've been doing since 2024 is funding this through grants. This relationship allows us to be effective, it allows officers to be in the areas where we know suspects are likely to be and crimes are likely to occur, and to prevent crimes prior to them occurring and make our community safer. So did they did they bring the methodology to the city to the police department? Or was that a collaboration and and creating it? It's uh mayor, vice mayor, council member go forth. It's a little bit of a little bit of both, right? We we had the foundation of that, but what we needed that to do is grow and build upon that foundation, and that's what they brought to the equation is we were doing a lot of what we needed to be doing, but they helped us get better and improve in the process to make us more effective. And you said there's two, it's it's two at a time. There there is two at a time. They are they are um paid interns through this grant, and they work about 30 to 31 uh hours per week for us. Okay. And and the grant covers the majority of the cost. It does. So if you look at what the the language in the grant, it talks about 224,000 per year, um up to 224.

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