I'm Alder Person Joe Castas Amaripa chairperson of the committee, and I'm joined in the following order to my left by Alderman Peter Bergelis as well as Alderman Alex Brouwer.

We are expecting Vice Chair Pratt to log on virtually today.

And also Alderman Jackson should be joining us soon.

We're also joined by Yadira Melendez, our staff assistant.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Ms.

Fabiola Lopez, our licensed and licensed division assistant manager.

Attorney Travis Gresham from the Office of the City Attorney.

Sergeant Velasquez and Cornejo from Milwaukee Police Department.

Morning.

Good morning.

The only um item on the agenda is file number 25234.

Motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses.

The first application at 9 a.m.

are a few Class D operators license renewal applications beginning with Sierra Jarrett.

Class D operator License Renewal Application.

Is Sierra Jarrett present?

All right.

Is this a first time non-appearance?

Uh second.

Move to move denial.

All right.

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves for denial.

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Sierra can reapply, correct?

Correct.

License division.

Thank you for that.

We'll move on to our next 9 a.m.

agenda item.

Christopher Deshaun McBeath.

Class D oper, I'm sorry, Class C operator's license renewal application.

Is Christopher Deshaun McBeath present?

All right.

License division.

Is this the first time non-appearance?

Yes, it's the first.

All right.

Move to hold.

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objection so ordered.

We'll move on to our next 9 a.m.

agenda item.

Joseph A.

Ziegler, Class D operator's license renewal application.

Is Joseph A.

Ziegler present?

Yeah, here.

All right.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Mr.

Ziegler, if you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Yeah, I'm not going to turn the camera on this right now.

I had it on earlier.

No, it's on.

Your camera's on.

I don't see you though.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Sergeant Velasquez and the case.

Oh, yes.

Can everybody raise the right hand that needs to get sworn in?

Do you solve your family that depends on penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you, everyone.

All right.

Mr.

Ziegler, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yeah.

Thank you.

Yes.

All right.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Joseph Ziegler, 12515 West Forest Drive in New Berlin, Wisconsin.

53151.

Okay, thank you.

Is there a police report, Sergeants?

Yes, um the applicant has the following path due to finds the own in Milwaukee Municipal Court as of today.

Building quote violations 295 dollars.

All right.

Mr.

Ziegler, would you like to speak to the police report?

Um, I I have everything's paid for now, and I would sent a copy of the receipt um via uh email over to the license division.

Okay, thank you.

That was sent to me.

At the bottom it is just a general um license division one.

It was sent to with um paper seat on it with my name and then the buttons license number.

Good.

I'm glad you did that.

License division, can you confirm?

I'll check with the officers.

Okay.

Um all right, Ms.

Lopez, we'll check with the office to ensure that we receive that.

Further further questions on the police report from uh committee members.

All right.

Um well with that we can entertain a motion if I'll move approval.

Um and if for whatever reason uh that wasn't taken care of, we can adjust it on the um agenda, the special agenda prior to counsel.

Very good.

So we can follow up with that later to confirm.

We'll trust but verify.

Very good.

Thank you, Alderman Burgelis.

Alderman Bergelis has moved approval.

Um of course we'll address the matter if there for some reason we don't get confirmation um that we received um the copy of his payment.

Um any discussion or questions on the motion?

All right.

Any objection?

Hearing no objection so ordered.

All right, congratulations.

Good luck to you, Mr.

Ziegler.

Thank you, appreciate it.

Thank you.

All right, we'll move on now to our 905 a.m.

agenda items.

Beginning with Shannon Carlson, Class D operator's license application.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yes, please have a seat.

And we want good morning, Alderman Jackson is here as well.

Thank you, Alderman Jackson.

All right.

Um Ms.

Carlson, will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

They're sorry if I'm on the depends on penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony we're about to give.

Is it true the whole truth and a few of the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, Miss Carlson, and are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I am.

Thank you.

And will you state your name and address for the record?

Yes.

My name first name is Shannon Carlson C-A-R-L S-O-N.

My address is 1517 Manitoba Avenue, South Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53172.

Thank you.

All right.

Sergeants, is there a police report?

Yes, on 12319, the applicant was arrested for OWI 3rd.

On 2325, she was convicted, and her driver's license was revoked for life.

On 1223, 21, the applicant was arrested for OWI fourth.

On 517 24, she was convicted, and her driver's license was revoked for 36 months plus 240 days.

Okay.

All right.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Uh yes.

Uh I did uh jot down some notes and um wrote you a letter today is um it's very difficult having to admit to my past.

Um so first and foremost, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak with you today.

Um I understand the seriousness of my record and the OWI convictions.

I take full responsibility for my poor choices that I made.

Um it took some time in my life to realize that I did have an alcohol addiction.

Since then, um I have sought treatment.

I have been in treatment since 2023.

I continue with treatment on a weekly basis, um, doing both group and individual therapy.

Um and I wouldn't go without it.

I sometimes I feel like everybody deserves a little therapy.

Um finding employment has been trying and difficult with my background.

Um I did go to an interview at Delaware North, which operates the Milwaukee Services Group at the stadium.

Um I applied for a very entry-level position, met with the supervisor, and we clicked.

Um they offered me a supervisor position that is better pay, more hours, and uh meets up with my experience in life.

Um so in order to do that, they do require that all management staff hold a bartender's license.

Although you're not directly serving alcohol, you are overseeing it.

Um I am on probation.

I did speak to and receive permission from my um probation officer to even apply for the license um attached to my application.

There is a letter from her stating that I am in compliance.

Um it also attests to my random drug tests.

Uh on that, you will also see a letter from my counselor stating and verifying my treatment dates.

Um, and then again, my service uh certificate.

Okay.

Um, so I I'm ashamed of my past.

Um what I'm doing differently this time is um I had to get to the bottom, the root of my issue, and I've done that.

So I am I understand it's a public safety issue, but I guarantee you I will never operate a motor vehicle again in my life, and I will never ever take a drop of alcohol in my life.

I know that I can't drink.

Um, so I'm hoping that with your permission, I could accept this position.

Um all my training is completed.

I'm just waiting for the the license, and that's what it's based on.

Thank you very much for your remarks.

Um are there any questions from committee members at this time?

Uh on the police report.

Alderman Bergelis.

Um, listen, I've I've worked at the stadium uh to help uh church group uh work for Delaware North.

I'm very familiar with how alcohol is regulated, and it's very well you think Brewers fans have a whole lot of fun, and then they do.

They do um but uh alcohol is very well controlled and regulated.

Uh I appreciate your candor and your honesty.

It takes a lot of courage to sit up here um uh at the table and and share some really personal things uh with the committee.

Um I have no objections on this license.

Oh thank you.

So I'll move approval.

Very good.

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

I appreciate you.

Thank you.

And I promise you I'll make you proud.

I have no doubt.

All right, we will move on now to our next 905 a.m.

Connie M.

Peterson, Class D operator's license application.

Good morning.

Thank you for your patience.

I know you're said you had to head to work as soon as you're done here.

It's okay.

Um if you'll raise your right hand, Miss Peterson, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you sell me a firm on the defensive penetration burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it to the whole truth and nothing with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

And my other question on that would be am I able to get my money back?

Could you speak a little bit loud?

I'm not sure what you're asking for.

If it is denied, am I able to get my 85 dollars back?

Yeah, you would be able to get a partial refund.

Okay.

All right.

And can you pull the microphone close to you so that we can make sure everybody can hear you?

Okay.

Um if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Um, sorry, Connie M.

Peterson, 599-8 South Phillips.

Okay.

Did we get a sworn?

Yes, yes.

Okay.

All right.

Um, Sergeant Goldmehoe, is there a police report?

Uh 9625, the applicant was arrested for OWI third with a jury trial schedule 518 of 26.

Okay.

All right.

Would you like to speak to the police report, Ms.

Peterson?

Yes.

Um I I don't know how to say this.

Um I was not prepared.

I I've been very busy with my mom and work and everything.

Okay.

Um one, I'm not a drinker.

I just happened to drink that day, and it's what happened.

Um pull the microphone closer to you.

I feel like it's in my face already.

You can you can move it.

You can bend it towards you.

I just want to hear you all.

There you go.

Um, my my um first and second were lots of years ago.

I was my profession, I've been a bartender over 30 years.

Um I kind of stopped bartending like uh before 2018, became a driver, and I was I had five driving positions, you know, DoorDash, Grab Hub, uh shark, Instacart, all of that before COVID.

And then I was not going to renew my license this year after all the years of renewing my license and then not finding a decent place to work or making good money or whatever.

Um, and then because of what had happened, I was like, okay, I have no other choice.

So I did find a position, which is right here, real chill, real chili.

And we do serve uh cans of beer.

And the thing with the license is that because it's limited hours, it's only two people working, like in the morning, and then there's like a mid shift from three to nine, which you have to be by yourself.

And the times that I did work by myself, I really thought I was I applied for this in February.

So I've been back and forth wondering what's going on.

Um me being by myself if I have to be there.

I have to have a license because we do serve cans of beer.

It's not a bar, it's a restaurant.

So they might the times that I worked, it may be one or two cans of beer.

Um and I need work and this isn't um messing with my work if I can't get the hours.

Um, and since then she told me I can only have one day a week working with someone from like nine to three in the morning.

Um, like today I work um ten to three, and then go to the other one, which does not serve alcohol to try to make up for the hours that I missed.

Um now as far as yes, I have uh court date coming up, but I need to work, I need to make money in the meantime.

Um I don't know what else to say.

That's good.

No, that's good, Ms.

Peterson.

Um I've been under a lot with my mom because I have um my mom has stage three and four breast cancer.

I she's like has dementia, and then she has like um bipolar um behavior issues, and I've been dealing a lot with that because I'm her only daughter, and I take care of her and give her pills every day, twice a day, three times.

Going back and forth between my house, her housework, uh, my aunt's it just is good.

No, thank you for sharing all of this.

Um happy to hear that you work at Real Chili.

I'm a big fan um of your product there, and yes, I'm familiar that you guys sell cans of beer and yeah, and so you're needing this license so that you can continue to work there and hopefully pick up more hours.

Um any questions from committee members for Ms.

Peterson?

All right.

Um is there a motion somebody would like to put for Alderman Alex Brower moves to approve um this license this license?

Any further discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered.

All right, very good.

Congratulations.

I feel like this at least for the meantime until May, because I don't know what's gonna happen.

So good luck to you.

Maybe I'll see you over there.

Yes.

Well, I'll be there till two o'clock today, and then I gotta go to the one west.

Okay.

We'll be here.

Well, long back long after.

Yes, next time.

Next time.

Good luck.

Have a good day.

Thank you, you too.

All right, we will move on now to our 910 a.m.

agenda item.

Carly Barrent, Class C operator's license application.

Is Carly Barrett present?

All right, Carly Barrent.

Is this the first time non-appearance?

Yes.

All right, Alderman Jackson moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

We'll move on to our 910 a.m.

agenda item.

Is it D'Angelo Montreal Edwards?

Class D operator's license application.

DeAngelo Montreal Edwards.

All right.

Is this the first time non-appearance?

Uh yes.

Okay.

Um Alderman Jackson moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

We'll move on now to our next 910 910 a.m.

agenda item.

Gerald B.

Adams, Class B manager's license application.

Okay.

All right.

Good morning.

Good morning.

All right, if you'll raise your right hand, Mr.

Adams, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you sell the information in the bands and penalties of purje of the state of Wisconsin?

But the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and everything with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh Mr.

Adams, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, no.

Okay, thank you.

And then will you please state your name and address for the record?

Gerald Adams 23CC8, North Cyclic.

Thank you.

Um Sergeant Gordon, is there a police report?

Yes, on 31824.

The applicant was charged in Walkership County with two counts of possession of amphetamine.

Uh misdemeanors and possession of marijuana.

Uh found guilty.

Uh the charges were dismissed, but read in.

Found guilty on a possession of marijuana, paid a fine.

Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Uh yes, attorney uh Gresham.

Can I get clarity as far as which one was a misdemeanor or were they all read in as misdemeanors and then so charge one was uh possession of amphetamine?

Um those were the rules for the writing charges.

And then um Position marijuana was out was a guilt was a fine.

Okay.

Is it um I see it's listed as amphetamine LSD and Sil7?

Is that just a standard catch-all effectively?

Okay.

All right, thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um Mr.

Adams, would you like to speak to the police report?

Um, yes.

Um, you know, at the time I was uh taking mushrooms with smoking weed.

I got pulled over at Walker Shaw leaving um work in Brookfield.

Um it was uh bogus police stop, but um uh went on and um went through the process.

I went on and took some uh AODA assessment just to kind of see where I was at as to why I was using the substances things that nature um went through the assessment, went through some treatment and uh pay my files.

Okay, the fines are all are paid in full.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

I I also emailed the a copy of the uh the case um on the um to the license and dot gov, but I mean it's it's some Wisconsin core access.

Right from the Walker Shark who provides you guys' case number if you guys want to look at the okay, so you emailed us proof of payment of the fines?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

License division, can you confirm that?

Um I don't have access to a license email right now, but there's nothing on record.

Okay.

Um I can share my string from the court case.

Are you guys able to see my string?

No, no, we uh there's nothing on the police report stating on sending fines.

So he indicated that he it says that there's a fine and he said he paid it in full.

I just asked if he um paid it in full and he's indicated he sent license division proof of payment.

Um so the so we have a couple charges, but the only guilty charge is marijuana okay.

Uh move approval.

Alderman Peter Bergellis moves approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you, Mr.

Adams.

Appreciate you guys, thank you.

So you saw Mr.

Jackson.

All right, we will move on to our 915 a.m.

agenda item.

Um Adley K.

Jab Jabur, agent for um smoker zone LLC Food Dealer license renewal application for friendly market at 2778 North 59th Street.

All right, good morning.

Good morning.

Um if the two of you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

The Usani from the independent penetration burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about the give is it through the hot to the NFM of the truth?

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Um Sir, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Thank you.

Can you please you have to speak in the um good?

Thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

My name is Adli Jabba.

My address 2778, North 59, Navacy, Wisconsin.

53210.

Thank you.

Um, all right.

And then would you like to introduce yourself?

Hi, I'm Amanda Grice.

I work for Auto Woman Charlotte Moore.

Wonderful.

Thank you, Amanda.

All right.

Um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

The following always pertaining to the licensee and business located at 2778 North 59th Street, uh, 42425 at 745 p.m.

Officers were dispatched to a theft complaint.

The agent reported three juveniles who continue to steal merchandise from the business.

Security camera footage was available for review on 62125 at 944 a.m.

An officer conducted a tobacco price check.

A participant under the legal age to possess any tobacco product was sold a cigar product by the listed agent without checking to an ID to verify their age.

The agent was advised on the sale and cited for sale of cigarettes to a minor.

Uh it wasn't um word status, however, it was uh paid um on 421.

Thank you.

Um would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

I can speak on my son transfomely.

Of course, where is he?

We need to get him to sworn in.

Is it Omar?

Yes.

Omar is.

All right, good morning.

If if you raise your right hand, Omar, we'd like to get you sworn in before we let you on then you can interpret.

Do you solve your dependence and penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it through the whole to the end of him with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Alright, and if you'll uh state your name and address for the record, Omar?

Omar Jabber, 6213 South 13th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53221.

Thank you.

And you were going to help interpret for your dad today, yes?

Correct, yes.

I'm in on my father's son, at least my father, and I am his son Omar.

Okay, and we just went through the police report, so wanted to give him a chance to s to um speak to the police report, and if you could then interpret whatever um whatever he says.

Yes, absolutely.

So you um go ahead, sir.

Do you want to speak in your language and then your son will turn?

Yeah, so he does admit that he is at fault for sewing um to a minor.

Um usually does check for um IDs.

Um, however, that day um he was not feeling too well um and completely just forgot to follow the protocol and process in place that he has set for his business.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um questions on the police report from committee members?

I'm sure.

Alderman Bergellis.

Uh what is your process and protocol to check for ID?

So the processing protocol um we implemented a new system into the business.

If you're gonna translate, then you have to translate for your father and then translate back.

Oh yeah, let's let your dad respond and then you um So what is your so what is your process and protocol for your for checking IDs?

Okay.

Um the process that's implemented in place is that any tobacco sale or nicotine sale that occurs in the business, um, an ID is required to be scanned.

Um an ID is required to be scanned.

Um if the customer does not have an ID, the sale is denied, no matter if the customer is old enough or not old enough.

Um an ID is needed to be able to be scanned into the system.

So the scan is the scanning system new or was it just not followed that day?

No, it's a new process that they implemented new system.

After the ticket?

Yes.

Correct.

Okay.

Uh that gives me some encouragement.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Um and then I'm sorry if I missed this.

It's because it in the police report it says the um citation for selling tobacco to a minor is in warrant status.

That's resolved.

Okay, that's been resolved.

It's been paid as of 421.

421.

Okay, so the citation for selling tobacco to a minor was paid.

Um very good.

Um further questions from committee members on the police report?

All right, questions from Alderwoman Moore's office on the police report?

No questions.

Okay.

Um are there any neighbors present that wanted to testify to this item today?

No, Madam Chair.

All right.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um we are in the 10th Aldermanic district.

Amanda from Alderwoman Moore's office.

Um Alderwoman Moore did go visit this business and is in full support of renewing the business license.

Very good.

Thank you.

Um with that, we'll head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Uh Alderman Brower.

Move to approve.

Alder Alderman Alex Bauer moves to approve.

Madam Chair.

Um I'm sorry, can you guys let me finish the motion and then we can take it to questions?

Alderman Alex Bauer has moved for approval.

I'm hearing some discussion.

Alderman Jackson.

Uh I'll let the move approval with a warning letter.

On the motion.

Uh we already have a motion on the table.

Are you asking for I'm not sure.

We already had a heard a motion.

Yes, Alderman Bower.

I'll amend my motion to be approval with a warning letter.

Alderman Alex Bauer um is revising his motion.

He's moving for approval with a warning letter.

All right, and with that Alderman Bergellis has some discussion.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um MPD has taken a conscious effort in the last uh nine months or so to ensure that operators in the city of Milwaukee are following the rules.

And that's why last cycle and today we'll see a number of stores with these similar um uh uh juvenile purchases on our licensing reports.

Uh I am encouraged that this operator took the proactive step before committee to change their policies to tighten up tighten up their policies and make sure that every single purchase has an ID scan in their point of sale system.

So uh I would I I to be consistent with our uh with our uh discipline and previous licensing meetings.

I think it's wholly appropriate for a renewal with a warning letter for this first-time offense, especially given that the applicant has taken a proactive measure to protect children in their neighborhood.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Alder Member Gallis.

Um I do want to uh note Vice Chair Pratt is here with us virtually.

Good morning to Alder Woman Pratt.

Um with that, we do have a motion on the table.

The motion is approval with a warning letter.

Any further discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you, Mr.

Javer.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, yes, thank you, Omar.

We will move on to our 920 a.m.

agenda item.

Robert Montomayor, agent for Monta Enterprises LLC Class A Malt and Class A Liquor and Food Dealer Licenses Renewal Application for Montade Market at 3014 South 13th Street.

All right.

Good morning.

Good to see you.

Good to see you as well.

Um and I see Alder Alderwoman Dmitrievich is also with us virtually this morning.

Um if the two of you would raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Is it true the whole truth and of him with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And Alderwoman Dmitrievich, I th you're muted.

Yes, I swear yes.

Okay, very good.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Montamayor, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I am.

Thank you.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Robert Montamayor, 5770, Stephanie Way, Caledonia, Wisconsin, 53108.

Thank you.

Um all right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold on.

Okay.

Uh no, no holds.

All right.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Uh 9 2525 at 1013 a.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to trouble the subject.

The business called regarding a pen handler in front of the business.

The subject left upon officer's request.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Absolutely.

I mean, again, these are my my uh it's my grocery store, and again I take full responsibility for my staff and everybody that's uh that's part of that organization.

But um again, it was um it was an unfortunate situation.

It's more of a um a language barrier.

Um we did have a young lady that came in um and they did, and we do have those uh mechanisms in place to scan.

And she did scan, but a little confused.

Um I think it was in the rush of the moment.

Um, but her supervisor actually nodded and said yes, she is not of age, and and it was just very strange on how it happened.

Uh the young lady ended up leaving after it was purchased and purchased it.

She left the can.

I think it was Mike's Hardale, I believe it was.

And uh she left, and then the officer was like, Well, either you're coming back with money or you're coming back with alcohol, and she came back in and she actually picked it up and left again.

But subsequently, the cashier was fired.

Um, just because that is just unacceptable for me.

Um, my supervisor um for the location did get written up for that as well.

Um, there is no I I just don't bend on that.

Um, just due to the fact because we do have a I look at it as it's a lit, it's an alcohol or is it a license for to sell alcohol, but it's also a privilege where you're just like you just can't accept that, and that's unacceptable for me.

So again, um we went through the process, retrained all of our staff at all of our locations to say this is what is not acceptable just because she had it in her hand, and because of the language barrier, because she did not speak English and my cashier.

But again, I am a representation of Monterey Market, so thank you.

Um right.

Further questions on the police report from committee members.

All right, questions from Alderwoman Dmitrievich on the police report.

Nothing on the police report.

All right.

Um are there any neighbors present that wish to testify to this item today?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the 14th Aldermanic District.

Alderwoman Dmitrievich.

Good morning, madam chairwoman and committee members.

Um I had a very lengthy dis discussion with Mr.

Montemayor.

Um, and uh we discussed the incident, how it happened, the protocols that are in place.

Um I did express my uh major disappointment.

Um it is very unlike his record of over 16 years uh being um a great provider of grocery in our community.

Um we talk about how um you know there must be a system in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.

And with that, um I let him know that I would be asking the committee to place a warning letter on file.

Madam Chair.

All right, thank you very much.

Um Alderwoman.

With that, we'll head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Madam Sure.

Alderman Alex Brower.

Move to approve of the warning letter.

Alderman Alex Brown moves for approval with a warning letter.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Thank you, Mr.

Montamayal.

Good luck to you.

Thank you so much.

All right, we will move on to our 925 a.m.

agenda item.

Kawar A.

Kalique, agent for KA LLC filling station, food dealer, and whites weights and measures licenses renewal application for Petrol Mart at 702 West Oklahoma Avenue.

All right, good morning.

Good morning, good morning.

Would you like to introduce yourself, Council?

Sure.

Uh attorney Mike Maestelman on behalf of Mr.

Khalik.

Thank you.

All right, and then um, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

We are very good.

Um, and then Mr.

Khalik, will you please state your name and address for the record?

Yes, Covar.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Can you raise your right hand so we can get you sworn in?

The Isonia firm of the dependence and penalty burger of the state of Wisconsin dot the testimony about to give is a true the whole truth and of him with the truth.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And then now will you state your name and address for the record?

Yep.

Uh Kovar, a colleague, um, 7611.

Park View Road, Greendale, Wisconsin, 5319.

Thank you.

Um, all right.

Um, Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Scornejo, is there a police report?

On 418 25 at 1210 a.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to battery.

The caller stated that they got into a verbal argument with the cashier and began to throw items across the aisles.

The cashier stated the subject began to argue and throw items.

The officer noted broken glass and bags of chips open and spilled across the floor.

Further observation revealed a bag containing a green plant like substance behind the counter and a scale.

The business did not have ways and measures or extended license hours license and should not have been open.

No violations were observed.

Uh 9125 at 1207 a.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to a weapon complaint.

The business called regarding a group of subjects in the parking lot, one of which they believed had a gun.

The subjects the subjects were no longer on scene, however, this was a uh common occurrence with subjects logging stating they are friends with the overnight clerk.

On 11, 1125 at 1014 p.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to robbery.

The caller say that they were attacked by four subjects, suspects.

Uh keys were taken and their vehicle was stolen.

The officers attempted to review video surveillance.

However, they were told um the employees were unable to access it.

Follow-up was conducted on several days until finally on 1116 25.

An officer was able to view footage, which did capture part of the incident.

The inability to view video surveillance hindered the officer's investigation.

On 1116, 25 at 108 a.m.

Walkie police conducted a license premise check.

The business does not have a valid extended hours permit and were open for business.

The agent was advised of the violation and agreed to close the business.

The agent was advised that future violations could result in citations on 129-26 at 152 a.m.

Walkie police conducted licensed premise check regarding the extended hours license.

The officer found the business to be open and requested to see the license.

However, the employee stated it was not at the business but had a photo on their phone.

The employee was advised they must have the physical copy on premise.

On 21026 at 1016 p.m.

police were dispatched to a property damage investigation, revealed a subject damaged a pump at the business.

On 3726 at 2 p.m., Milky police were dispatched to a shots fired.

Investigation revealed that this was baseless.

However, a property damage did occur while the victim was pumping gas, an unknown suspect hit the career window with the board, causing it to shatter.

The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incident.

Okay.

Would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

Uh just briefly, you know, the the last uh licensing cycle seems like an anomaly because the committee has um in the last five years has renewed this, I believe, without a hearing.

Um and so given the issues that we've had, we've sat down with all of our staff and went over all the procedures.

Um some of the things are not on the staff, it's on us.

In the past, we've had the weights and measures on extended hours license.

I guess there was a uh obviously a screw up on our part.

I'm not gonna say it was on Fabi's part.

Um it would have been on our part.

We'll take responsibility for that, but it happened.

Um we do now have uh we've applied, I believe we've applied for that with this in in this in this um in this application for that.

Um regarding um the um when we didn't have the the our staff didn't have the uh access to the cameras.

We've now given them all of the police uh oh, excuse me, all of the passwords, so they have access to that.

In the past, uh my client was telling me we had some uh relationship with MPD where they were able to access the cameras.

I asked him if it was fuses, he said it wasn't fuses.

I I don't know what went back maybe 10-15 years ago, but I've told him and he he also said that uh that that camera system that they had before with the police is uh uh not they're not using it anymore.

So I suggested we get fuses.

He's gonna be reaching out to the liaison officer to try to set that up as soon as possible.

Um our food dealer's license right now is from 12 a.m.

to 1159 p.m.

Um so I I I again I acknowledge and we acknowledge the the issues that have popped up in the last cycle.

Again, it seems like an anomaly if you look on the first page of your ebook.

Uh it will show you by the uh the uh yellow highlighted uh bubble that it's been renewed for the last five years without an issue.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um thank you, Councilman.

Questions on the police report from committee members?

All right.

Um I do want to note I don't think is there an is this also a new application for extended hours?

No, the extended hours was approved in January of this year.

Okay.

The application was submitted ends of last year and it was approved.

They didn't hold an extended license, um, extended hours license um until or was 2016 the last time they held it.

Okay, which was granted.

So what are the hours now?

Your hours are now or 24 hours.

Okay.

And that do you note that on our on their application?

Yeah.

All right.

Um questions from Alderwoman Dmitrievich on the police report.

Um thank you, Madam Chair.

There were some discrepancies as outlined both in the attorney and then the police report on the extended hours.

Um, and that's an item when you're opening it up for discussion that I want to talk about.

Could you just have one more time licensing explain kind of because they were cited a number of times on the police report for not having their extended hours license?

So let me ask it like this is it accurate that the number of times they were cited in the police report for extended hours, they did not hold they were operating without a license for extended hours.

I just want to have that on the record.

I'm pulling up the police report so I can refer to it.

Uh all the woman may I, madam chair.

Oh, go ahead, Congress.

I believe that Oliver Wolven is is correct.

I mean, we did not have the extended hours, even though we were under the impression that we've had it because we've had it in the past, but obviously it was a while in the past.

Uh there was no intention to to shock our responsibilities.

And um again, it was it was we take full responsibility for that, but there were no issues in the file that would have required my client to come before the committee um in the last five years.

Nevertheless, he was wrong, he dropped the ball, and he's you know, he's he's acknowledging that.

And when did he if I may the police report, madam chair?

The majority of these issues, apart from the major infraction of operating without a license for extended hours, the majority of the neighborhood issues have happened during that time period.

So that is an issue that we'll need to discuss.

All right, and um when did they get approved for extended hours again?

Um licensed.

Yeah, granted in January 20th, 2026.

2026, yeah.

And the all local or is correct.

The majority of those incidences took place um when technically we didn't have an uh a license to be open at that time.

Okay, and ma'am uh madam chair, not only during when they didn't have the license to be open during that time, but the time period of the night.

Another way of saying it is the negative things are happening post midnight.

Oh, this is I want to be very clear about that.

The police report suggests that.

None of these things aren't happening at 5 p.m.

There you just heard it, it was like 12 a.m., 1 a.m., etc.

I I'm sorry, I wasn't clear.

Yes, I acknowledge that.

I all those majority of them took place during the extended hours when they should not have been open.

Okay, um, but now the extended hours application was approved in January of this year, and it is a 24-hour business.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify in this item today?

Okay.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um we are in the 14th Aldermanic district.

Alderwoman Dmitrievich.

Okay, thank you.

Um I guess um this is kind of uh unique one.

Um I I want to admit there was some miscommunication in between a little bit of licensing, but also you know, we always check with our um police department and community liaison officers when there's a number of phone calls like this, because it as you know, all of those visits take time and money and resources from our neighborhood.

Um I'm very disappointed.

Let's take away the fact that there seem to be that miscommunication on the actual license to operate during those hours, madam chair.

What I'd like to direct the committee's attention to is the activities that are happening in a pattern um around that time.

Um in addition, we have um younger folks um and some connections, um, you know, it seems like uh that we're kind of hanging out according to the police report.

So I'm I wonder if the operator um uh has considered um you know possibly changing those hours of service.

Has that has that been considered by the operator and their representation?

No all women.

I I don't believe it has at this point.

Do you want to speak?

Um I did change the uh cashiers, so I don't have the one cashier no longer who had like friends come over and hang out.

So and we put up um you know, signs like no loitering, so we can call the police and then have them citated if somebody is hanging out.

And then we have a lot of like uh homeless population in the area, like along the railway property on Sixth Street, you know, there's a lot of issues with those people to come to there's like three businesses in this intersection, like four businesses actually, pharmacies like Walgreen, McDonald's and the gas agent, and you know, so there's a lot of uh like people coming, they're just loitering and then panhandling, you know.

And we have to keep going back and forth with them all day.

And if I may, uh woman, um again, uh it uh it it it seems like an anomaly, all right.

I mean, not to make an excuse, but the last five years there weren't any incidences on the police report, even though they were opened at at uh extended hours.

Um that being said that I'm not trying to negate what happened at the last year.

We are taking proactive measures to ensure that those issues don't happen again, and we uh continue to be uh conducting ourselves where like we did in the last five years, there aren't any more issues.

All right.

Okay, may I, Madam Chair?

Yes, of course, Alderman.

Yeah, I mean um allowing the pumps to be open 24 hours seems reasonable.

Um I'm just trying to ask you what part of your business plan and business model needs to have the actual store open past midnight.

And have you can while you're talking there, have you considered uh possibility?

We have a lot of working.

Let her finish.

Yeah, these incidents are very recent as well, madam chair.

Sorry, I I took a pause there.

Sorry about that.

Okay, go ahead.

Like we have a lot of people going to work at the factories, you know, working class people, they start their shift at 4 a.m., 5 a.m.

So like you know, we need to be ready, and then the workers like you know, after midnight they do cleaning and stuff like that, you know.

A lot of people are doing third shift, our customers, so they are you know coming around um you know midnight, and then you know, a lot of them start early around like four 4 a.m.

that go to force here.

I mean, did you talk to the Alderwoman before you decided to go 24 hours?

Or is this why is this a new conversation where it was approved?

Yes, but did you talk to the I called the I when I applied for it, I called the office and then I talked with the the attendant, you know, and then she said they have no problems.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So that's what I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Alder Woman?

Yeah, as I stated previously, yes, our office was in communication, myself and Terry.

Um we had there there was a little bit of a miscommunication, a misunderstanding, clearly.

Um they thought they had a license, but they didn't.

I'm not sure if licensing sent it.

I don't I don't know that we truly have to relitigate that.

Unfortunately, they were operating for quite some time without the extended hours.

Then they got it, and then many issues started happening very fairly recently.

If you look at the timing of the police report.

Um so I I still think it's unfortunate that they were operating without it.

We um allowed it because we kind of thought they had it.

Regardless, let's set that aside for a moment.

There are these in other infractions and police response and anywhere from six to seven recent.

Um they're not tickets for loitering.

They're I mean you heard the police report, so I'm wondering if the applicant has considered perhaps since you didn't have the license for a while for extended hours.

Um, is there any consideration on your part that you are considering changing any of your hours for these the store, not the pumps, the store.

Um no alder woman, we we don't want to do that.

Um I do notice of the nine incidences, um, four of them took place after after the hours.

And then again, we're we we you know we get put in a situation where do we call the police, right?

Because then it's uh a PA thirty-three is generated, and then you know the the y'all can come back to us and say, well, you know, we're wasting resources for the case.

Oh, you're not please don't attorney mace man, you know full well that the committee takes everything to account.

Do not we would never want you to not reach out to police.

Right, and that's what we have, and that's why I always tell all my clients to do that.

And then um since we got the uh license, we only had one after hours where the police came to check the license.

Okay, you know.

Did you attempt to talk to the Alderwoman before committee today?

Have you talked to the Alderwoman before committee today about this?

No.

Okay.

I was thinking that everybody here is remiss for not convening beforehand, because now we're having a long discussion in committee.

Well, it's about the extended hours, and that conversation took place and it was passed, right?

I mean, so that the issue isn't anything else, it's the extended hours, which was approved a few months ago, and my clients said as the Alder Woman can concurred, they were in discussions.

So I didn't think that this was the extended hours is what we've been talking about the whole time would be an issue because it was approved a few months ago.

And it was communication.

All right.

So it's I'm hearing the Alderman ask, are you willing to um change your hours?

No.

And you are saying no.

Right.

You want to continue to operate 24 hours a day?

And we're serving we're serving, you know, uh folks that are working, you know, the third shift.

That's why we're open.

If we weren't making money, then we wouldn't be open.

All right, and for the edification of the public, if the applicant um does not want to amend their application, they they are within their rights to decline.

So with that, Alderwoman Dmitrievich?

Okay.

Oh sorry, I unmuted there.

Um when was when did licensing?

I'm just gonna ask one last thing, then I'll wrap it up.

When was like when did license mail them the extended hours license?

It would have been mailed out that same day on the common council date of 120.

Okay.

Well, I guess I'm interested in holding the items open for extended hours.

I'm I'm really confused.

I don't know if license division needs to weigh in here.

The extended hours application is not before us.

It was passed in January.

Was it scheduled?

Or what's the problem?

Was the Alder Woman not notified appropriately?

Or can I get some context?

What do you mean the Alder Woman was?

The Alder Woman's asking about whole about the extended hours application, but we held it we heard it in January, correct?

And it was passed.

So does somebody want to give me context?

I don't know if Alder Woman Dmitrievich or license division.

Why is there some miscommunication here?

I do just want to add that the three checks that were conducted in that period were they they didn't have the extended house.

There wasn't citations issued either.

So I I think the Alder Woman has said that citations were issued.

Citations were never issued for any of those violations either.

So just to put that out there.

Okay, and and why would citation have citations not have been issued?

Depends on the officers that want to go investigate the okay they just have the license the week before.

All right.

Um but you're right, we're not here on that.

We're not I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying to get some clarification on the confusion around the extended hours application is not before us.

It was approved in January.

Right.

Alder Woman Dmitrievich, do you would you like to weigh in here?

I'm struggling getting context about why there's some confusion.

Well, I apologize.

Um, and sorry for the committee's time, but you could see why we've been analyzing this for a while trying to get answers.

Um it's odd to me that the police would go three times during those hours for disturbances or a license check.

They didn't have the license for extended hours, and then they were cited.

So it's it's hard for me to understand.

At the end of the day, I think there is an issue with their service past midnight.

And this should have had last year.

Wait, attorney May Smith.

Right.

But then in January the application for extended hours was passed.

Correct, Alder Woman?

Right.

And when was the last item on the police report?

If we could get that from the police, when the date of the last item on the police report, excuse me.

So the extended licenses was before the committee on in January.

He had three additional items after the extended licenses were issued.

There one of them was a licensed premise report, our license premise checked by the district.

So it wasn't a call for service, it was just officers doing a proactive check.

There was the two 1026 at 1016 p.m.

property damage, and then there was additional call on 3726 at 2 p.m.

pro shots fired incidents.

So the two additional items on the police report were not during the extended hours license period.

That's what I was going to point out.

Okay.

And I just want to be clear that was 2 p.m.

in the afternoon, that last item.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

All right.

With that, I I think we're we've kind of exhausted discussion.

Alderwoman Dmitrevich, do you want to make any final comments and then we should probably let the applicant speak as well before we head into committee?

Yes.

Final comment.

I don't understand why when they didn't have the extended hour license before January.

Three times they were visited without a license, and they were not cited.

It is hard for me to understand that.

And I think there's issues post-midnight.

Um it looks like there was a licensing, like perhaps they weren't given the citation because there was a licensing miscommunication.

I can't infer that prior to January.

We are trying to help us along in January, then there were more issues.

So at the time of their license renewal now, I'm bringing up those issues.

Um number of negative incidences that have happened.

Thank you.

Thank you, Alderwoman.

Um, wanted to give attorney May Slim a chance to make brief closing comments before we head into committee.

Just briefly, uh, I was not prepared today to talk about the extended license application because I know it had just been approved, right?

And if if it if there were issues at that time, then they should have been discussed at that time.

Right?

I mean, and so I'm not sure why we're doing it right now.

If it if you all passed it.

Um we would concur, we we'd be happy to take a warning letter, and we will continue to work with the police.

I think part of it is we have a good working relationship with the police.

Um, and as the sergeant noted, since we've had the extended hours, we haven't had any issues uh in extended hours.

I mean the police showed up at 152 asking what our license was, right?

And we showed them a picture of it.

It was issued by the police uh by the city, but there weren't any real problems that took place after hours.

So with all that, uh we would request that we have our and we're not here for the the license extended, but for our filling station and food dealers and waits and measurements license renewed.

All right, I know Alder Member Gallis has a question.

Go ahead, Alder Member Gallis.

Um no question, more of a statement for context.

The South Side had a number of gas stations that were operating uh in extended hours without the prop pro without the appropriate uh permits, and that was not enforced um regularly from the district uh that has since changed, and we have seen a number of these south side extended hours.

I can count four in my district uh that we've processed in them in recent months.

Uh this I believe is uh a similar situation where he was a longtime operator, uh, and for whatever reason the license was never applied for, granted, or contested or uh cited.

So uh so there were problems.

I don't think uh you know we've we've exhausted the the discussion about extended hours, uh but for context on the south side, there were a number of places that just weren't um paying the the or obtaining the the appropriate license uh for those time periods.

I see two items on the police report, uh property damage and a um shattered window after the extended hours license was uh granted.

Uh there are a number of items on the police report.

Uh so I'm uh encouraged by the trend.

Uh and I I'm glad that the applicant has the appropriate licenses now, like all good operators should in the city of Milwaukee, and I'll move for renewal with a warning letter.

All right, Alderman Peter Brigelis moves for renewal with a warning letter.

Is there any further discussion on the motion?

Madam Chair, for context that is consistent with what we've done with the other operators that uh have recently found the light and obtained the proper necessary extended hours license.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Um point of information, madam chair, just one question for the future.

We are in the middle of a motion, um, but of course we'll let you speak briefly, Alderwoman.

Extended hours will be up in January of 2027, then licensing department.

Yes, the license would expire January 19th, 2027.

Okay.

Thank you, committee.

All right.

Um the motion is uh approval with a warning letter.

Any further discussion from committee?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Thank you very much.

Good luck to you.

I would advise you to stay in contact with your elder person.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um we'll move on to our 9 30 a.m.

agenda item.

Corey R.

Carrigan, agent for RC Automotive L L C Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer Licenses application requesting instrumental musicians, disjackey hookah services, bands, karaoke, patrons dancing, one pool table for RC towing and repair, featuring the garage dance studio at 7419, West Bradley Road.

Is Corey R.

Carrigan present?

I'm here.

All right.

And I see Alder Woman Taylor is also here with us virtually.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yes, I'm here.

All right.

If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you Sony from an independent button burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give?

Is it your hold truth and a few more the truth?

Yes.

I do.

Thank you.

All right.

And Alderwoman, do we I just wanted to make sure we heard we heard you as well?

I do.

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Kerrigan, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And if you'll please state your name and address for the record.

My name is Corey Kerring and seeing your address is 4450 North 57th Street, Milwaukee, West Cassidy.

Thank you.

Um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Holds for occupancy and holds for inspection.

All right.

Sergeant Courtneho, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

All right.

I see it's a new application.

Mr.

Kerrigan, will you tell us about your experience and plan for the business?

Uh yes.

Um my experience uh for um basically a jazz club.

It's kind of it's kind of new part of the experience, but what I want to do is um offer live music and food for patrons to come in and um you know enjoy themselves, you know, a nice, nice thing, uh clean, safe environment.

All right.

And um you've had experience running a similar business.

Can you uh what I what I ran was uh pretty much is this uh like a hall rental sort of business?

That's what I've uh done in the past.

Okay, thank you.

Um questions for the applicant from committee members at this time.

Questions from Alderwoman Taylor for the applicant?

No questions.

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

All right, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the ninth Aldermanic district.

Alderwoman Taylor.

Uh the ninth district is in support of Mr.

Carrington and his business.

Okay, thank you.

All right, Madam Chair.

Alderman Alex Brower.

Just uh curious because I know I noticed here on the um on the agenda here.

It is the same applicant applying for a separate license in our next agenda item at uh almost next store.

Can I maybe I'm just gonna can we can we get some information about that?

Is that gonna be I mean the addresses that we have 70 7419 West Bradley, 7427, those might be I just want I'm just want to maybe get that cleared up what the is that those Mr.

Stripmall?

I'll just pull it up.

Madam Chair?

Um Attorney Gresham.

Before we discussed it, we should call it.

Okay.

Um so if we want to, we could resolve this one as a separate entity or alternatively we call the second one and then deal with them collectively.

Um but again, those would be an independent motions and would have to be handled as separate hearings, but to discuss them kind of collectively, we should call them so that it's properly noticed.

Okay, if I can can I hold this one to the call of the chair.

Um I don't want to resolve it without I think Alder and Bauer brings up the call.

I think it's a great point.

I think we should call it um again just for a public notice purpose and for agenda purposes, so it'd be called, and then again we would be resolving them, you know, as as kind of a group, and then again voting them both.

Um for neighbor purposes, you may want to call neighbors on the first and then kind of move into the second.

Um but as far as discussion regarding the second, I think it's best that we call before we discuss.

Okay.

Just for I mean, clarity of purpose here.

Yes, and we did ask for neighbors on this item.

There are no neighbors present.

I would hold and then call just for clarity.

He's already been sworn as has the elder.

Very good.

So Alderman Alex Bower moves to hold this item to the call of the chair, and hearing no objections so ordered.

We're gonna move on to nine the 935 AM agenda item.

Corey R.

Carrigan, agent for Cove LLC, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer Licenses, food dealer licenses application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey, hookah services, bands, patron contests, patrons dancing, and one pool table for Cove at 7427 West Bradley Road.

Um very good.

And Mr.

Kerrigan is on the board, he's been sworn in.

Um do I have to ask him if he's in receipt of this one as well?

Yes.

Okay.

And um on this application, Mr.

Kerrigan, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

All right, thank you.

Um he's already identified himself.

Yeah, and we can move right into the clarifying question from Alder Brower.

Very good.

Um Alderman Alex Brower's question, Mr.

Kerrigan.

We're seeing um two applications that look very near each other.

Uh yes, so they it is two different um licensing.

That I have a uh did apply for one uh RCI, the motor feature in the garage dance studio.

Uh there.

Um it's a dance studio.

Okay.

I'm a dancer.

I think that the Chicago style step in.

It's kind of like almost like a formal dance, almost like ball rooming.

I've been doing that since about here about 2000 about since 2016, and um I kind of support the uh Milwaukee stepping community.

It's kind of like I'm like the pillar of the community for them.

So it's not a lot of places where they can go where they you know can actually dance to it's kind of like you know, old school musical where it is nice music.

No, it's it's a more of an older crowd, I almost to say uh 45 bit being up.

I'm kind of like the youngest guy, and I'm kind of giving these um senior citizens and people uh you know, the type of people would come out in bands and get um exercise.

So the problem was uh we couldn't sell alcohol or food, so that's why I kind of wanted to get my alcohol, my liquor license, and my food business license, so then I can also provide for them, you know, wine and beer, uh liquor, uh food, you know, why they dance and you know, things of that, you know, of that nature.

Mr.

Kerrigan, I'm looking for some but weren't everything you just said, are you weren't you talking about the previous application for the dance studio?

Yeah, that's the dance studio, so the cove will be a jazz, it'd be more like a jazz lounge.

Okay, we're discussing cove right now, so yes, I want you to tell us.

Oh, okay, I'm sorry.

So yes, the cove, yes, is that it's a different, it's a separate uh location.

It's the same location, but right next door.

And I want to offer, you know, jazz and um food here.

Okay.

Uh attorney Gresham.

Well, MPD does have a police report for this location that was noticed.

Um, so I believe they're gonna read it in.

I believe it may actually apply to uh one or both locations or the individual applicant, but it was properly noticed for this specific location, so we should read it in again as it applies to the current hearing and the current location that we are contending with.

Okay.

Um I'll just start with with uh are there any holds, Ms.

Hold for inspection holds for occupancy for the application of COVID.

Okay, thank you.

Umgeon Gordnell, is there a police report?

Okay, on uh 918-19 at 1057 a.m.

Walkie police conducted a license premise check at 7419 West Bradley Road.

The officer noted two toll trucks were not on file with the city license and missing the company name.

The officer went over city ordinance with the agents on 128-21 at 402 p.m.

police were dispatched to a timer violation at 7419 with Bradley Road.

Uh on arrival officers observe approximately 20 subjects who the agents stated were there for a funeral awake.

They just stated at the host dance classes periodically and sell chips and soda, however, did not sell liquor.

However, did not sell liquor.

Turn on and look for bottles in the office.

You also advise the agent that they cannot sell liquor nor host events without a permit.

The agent was cooperative.

So Madam Chair, again, those were noticed for this location, but apply to the previously read location, which should be known to the agent as they are both.

Again, under his name.

So again, we may have to read them again just for clarity's sake, but we're reading them now because they were properly noticed here.

And we can contend with them here, or we can go back and contend with them in the previous location.

But again, you know, we can treat these kind of collectively in a in a certain respect, um, because they are next door under the same agent for similar purposes.

Um, but again, we have to kind of procedurally um contend with either separately.

I know that sounds a little bit technical, but it's the way that it should be done.

Well, additionally, though, these are from a few years ago.

This is a new application.

This the applicant, this is wouldn't it be under a previous premise report?

Chair, uh the way um just looking at the license premise reports.

The there was no licenses there for this type of licensor previously, but the applicant was the one that was on scene for both of those incidents.

Oh, so he was running prior yes, ma'am.

Businesses okay.

Um, would you like to speak to the police report, Mr.

Kerrigan?

Uh yes, I would.

Thank you.

Um for the uh let's see here.

Uh hold on.

Well, that first police report on 1819, where uh MPD was conducting a license check, and there were uh tow trucks, uh I think it was like two of them that was out there that uh was dispurchased, waiting to get um registered and everything with sitting out on the line, and he told me that uh they pretty much I had to register him and um get my uh logo on the side of them, and then on the uh second one um one of my family members passed, and we had a a wait, uh uh not a wait, but uh they called a um a repass, that's what it was a repass, and uh and it was during the day, uh probably maybe I don't know, three, four o'clock in the evening, and police came in and said that we were selling alcohol, there's somebody with selling alcohol, and I let it they came in, they looked behind the bar with no alcohol back there.

I personally had my personal alcohol uh and my office, and that's where they seen you know the bottle that they did let me know that I couldn't host events and that I could not sell alcohol, and I I told them you know, I won't do it, and that was that.

Okay, questions on the police report for the applicant at this time.

Um, sir, you weren't cited for this violation.

No, ma'am.

Okay, but you immediately stopped selling liquor because you were made aware.

I wasn't.

I'm sorry, not to cut you off.

I wasn't selling liquor, I had it for my personal use.

It was a family uh repass.

It wasn't like it was a total stranger, it was for a family.

But you still need, yes, you are you're now you understand you need to apply, and that's why you're before us today.

Oh, yes.

Okay, um, Alderwoman Taylor, do you have questions on the police report?

No, I don't have any questions on this police report.

Okay, and are there any neighbors present to testify on this item for Cove LLC?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um Alderman Brower, did you have any?

I know you were the one who pointed out.

No, no, I just I just wanted to I just wanted to get clear on it looks like it's gonna be two separate businesses with and I did look at the files, they'll be potentially different operations hours, and well, some of the hours will overlap, but I just wanted to be clear about the two of the two businesses there.

It looks like they'll be the same owner, same agent operating both businesses uh next to each other.

I I think my questions have been answered about that.

Okay, very good.

And they're right next door to each other, Mr.

Kerrigan.

Yes, ma'am.

So you feel you'll be able to be on site for both of them and keep an eye on both of them simultaneously?

Yes, ma'am.

All right.

Um we are in the ninth Aldermanic district, Alder Woman Taylor on Cove.

Yeah, um, so I just I the only thing that I have is to re see what uh Mr.

Carrington would uh think is a realistic time for opening.

Um because he has on his application 8 a.m.

But um he has indicated he's not a breakfast spot um for an 8 a.m.

open.

So I don't know what is realistic time for opening, what time you think he's really going to open.

I'd like for him to adjust his hours accordingly.

So what time do you think you'll open realistically?

Um we uh discussed that uh probably about a couple months ago.

I did go uh you advised me to go back down to licensing to adjust that.

So it'll have been five o'clock, five to twelve.

Uh okay 5 p.m.

for 12 A.

All right.

I see license division.

Wanted to chime in here.

Um is Ms.

Lopez.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Yes, the application for both Cove and RC towing the hours were amended.

Both have the hours of operation of 5 p.m.

until midnight.

Um Cove does have the age restriction of 30 and up.

Um that age restriction does not apply to the RC application.

Okay.

Okay.

Is there um can I ask if there's a reason why we didn't put 30 and up on the RC application, Mr.

Carrington?

Uh yes, ma'am.

The reason being because the RC the RC automotive feature and the garage dance studio, we we are specializing in dance.

So in order for the uh Chicago style step in the grow, we have to have younger adults to come in and dance and that kind of um uh extend the life of the dance here in the Milwaukee uh area.

Uh I started when I was probably I don't know 36 or 47.

And you know, we look for younger dancers because a lot of them, a lot of the older ones, they are passing away.

So we the younger we get it, it um patrons to come in and kind of walk them through our um our dance, uh, you know, they stay longer and they also they kind of uh preserve the dance, I should I say, and um also they you know it's like the cycle, you know, they teach new dancers to come up and um the music that we listen to and that we uh cater to is it's it's not like music that make you want to uh do violent things or nothing.

So uh and the way the dressing is, you know, the uh people just not going to come out to listen to you know the OJs and and want to do by the thing, it's just not going to happen here, you know.

Like I said, I've been having this dance uh studio since 2016, and we never had no problems.

Um Alderman Taylor, she stopped in, she kind of seen how uh respectful, helpful everybody was, uh how security.

We walked around to a car and make sure she got you know, make sure, you know, but it's kind of a dark parking lot.

So we do walk like the women out uh the men, we walk them, you know, they need help older guys.

And we just never had an incident, never, not one time, no shooting, no fighting, not even our and I and I I travel all over the United States, Stephen.

Okay, wrap it up, Ms.

Car Mr.

Kerrigan, please wrap it up.

I want to hear from older woman Taylor.

So um I'm I'm good.

Uh he we do need to make an adjustment.

Um, because on the RC application, it does say zero to eighty, as much as I would love to have a dance place for our young people.

Um I don't think we can do zero to eighty.

Um is that something that has to be changed on the application, and I can direct that question to the city attorney or to licensing.

Madam Chair.

Go ahead.

Uh so these kind of restrictions are kind of business operation things.

Um, you know, they have to be worked out with consent of the um the applicant.

So if the applicant is saying that he wants again, you know, discussion of RC automotive should be limited here because again, we're dealing with the cove right now, but um as we discuss RC uh that the code collectively um to mirror um the cove's limited or restrictive thing, it doesn't seem like the applicant is amenable to that, but uh again, those are discussions that could have happened uh prior.

I mean they can happen now, obviously, um, but it seems as though the applicant just stated in a um uh kind of longer response that he wants to facilitate this as more of a dance studio that allows for the kind of um percolation of this dance throughout the community of all ages.

So again, a discussion with the applicant um would have to take place regarding any limitation that he's going to include on that license.

If instead he's not amendable um in this committee sees fit to hold or deny based on that, um, or based on a recommendation.

Um again, he could reapply um with more um you know changes to his business application that um are seen to comply or at least be helpful in the committee's deliberation and decision ultimately.

Um but right now the the cove is what's in front of us, um, and I think that the committee should likely resolve itself to um discussing the cove um as it has its own restrictions and seems to be in support.

Um I would advise that that be resolved and then we bring a discussion into RC automotive once that's called back.

Um again, the reason the code was brought in was because of a question about the collective nature of these two or uh these two licenses or applications rather as we discussed the COVID um and and kind of move to resolve on that.

Um we should again try strive, I guess, to limit discussion on RC automotive because what we don't want to do is be seen to decide on both with regard to one's restrictions or because of one um uh I guess difference as it were.

So if we can kind of resolve the cove and then move back into RC automotive and discuss its specificity or the specifics, um that would probably be the best.

Oh, I'm sorry, okay.

So Alder Woman Taylor, well, let's vote on Cove and then we'll go back to the one that I know you have some concerns on.

Okay, but I know you were good with Cove.

They have the 30 years and up with hours five to midnight.

Yes.

All right.

Um Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves for approval of Cove LLC, the 935 AM agenda item.

Any discussion on that motion, any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered.

All right, so that passes cove passes committee, Mr.

Kerrigan.

But now we'll um Alderman Jackson moves to reconsider our 9 30 a.m.

agenda item on RC automotive LLC, um, located at 7419 West Bradley Road.

Okay.

Um there are some concerns by the Alderam hearing, uh, although the we see the items were amended 5 to midnight.

Yeah, but so let me uh oh I'm sorry, go ahead with that part.

No, that's it.

And I know you were looking for a greater age restriction, but um sounds like the go ahead.

Actually, it was really a question.

It wasn't really okay.

Go ahead.

Um, yeah, I do I think that um, like Mr.

Carrington said, I did stop in.

They were very respectful.

He hasn't had any trouble.

So it was really just a question that I was just asking that if he could do that, um, and if the attorney is saying that it's a dance studio and that he can indeed have zero to eighty to to be able to service a wider community.

Um I'm okay with that.

Um under Mr.

Carrington's charge.

I do want to make sure that we have the hours um straight though, because on the application, it says 6 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

And my thought is is that he does want to be open different.

So I just want to make sure that I I know what hours are actually uh that it's actually amended to.

Yes, he did amend the application.

Um Ms.

Lopez, you want to repeat it for the elder woman?

Yep, the hours were amended to be 5 p.m.

to midnight every day of the week.

Okay, and um just so that um I'm just very clear, Mr.

Carrington, because you are attempting to um a service zero to eighty with the age restriction on your uh on your application.

Are you absolutely sure that for this RC for this uh site for this address that 5 p.m.

till midnight is going to suffice for a servicing the younger crown?

Uh yes.

Um but um I'm only really like so dealing with occupancy.

I'm only um gonna be allowed to go from uh zero to eight.

Okay.

Zero to fifty.

Okay.

Okay.

No, that's uh no no no, there's some confusion here.

Yeah.

Uh go ahead, um Ms.

Lopez.

I was just gonna say I believe uh Mr.

Kerrigan means occupancy if DNS and on his occupancy permit states zero to fifty.

That's the people that can be in the building.

That is not a restriction on the age uh of the people.

Oh sorry, it'll be 21 and up on uh on the RC automotive side.

Okay.

All right, so you're not you're not perceiving that you would have um clients or uh customers that would be under 21.

That's not true.

Okay, all right.

Someone else is turning in.

Yes, hold on.

One second, Alder Woman.

Who just asked to speak?

That was that was okay.

I'm sorry.

Alderman Brower has something.

We should make an amendment then to include the 21 plus age restriction, and I'd make that amendment.

Is that is that correct?

And I think we want to do that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um is that did you want to make that amendment, Mr.

Kerrigan?

I thought he was serving it's a dance studio and you were serving a broad array of ages.

No, no, I'm uh I apologize.

It was 21 and uh okay it's 21, yeah.

Not nothing under no nobody under 21.

Okay.

I don't I'm not sure where somebody got the zero to eighty because that's what's on the application right now.

It says zero to eighty.

And it says 6 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

on the application.

So I just wanted to have clarification of what we really wanted on there.

Um I'm okay with the amendments that have been made of the time and the age of 21 and up from Mr.

Carrington.

And and uh I district is happy to uh to uh support so we should do it.

Okay, amendments on the floor.

All right, so um per Mr.

Kerrigan uh Alderman Alex Bower has moved to amend the application to reflect uh age restriction age restriction of 21 and up, and hearing no objection to that motion so ordered.

Um with that, I think we're ready for a motion.

Madam Chair.

Go ahead.

Move approval as amended.

Alderman Alex Brower has moved for approval as amended and hearing no objection, so ordered.

All right, thank you.

Good luck, Mr.

Kerrigan.

Thank you guys.

Have a great day.

All right, we'll move on to our 9 40 a.m.

agenda item.

Millard Millard Ellis, agent for RB resolution properties LLC, um 11600 West Park Place Series, Class B Tavern, Hotel Motel, Food Dealer and Licenses application for Hilton Garden Inn, Milwaukee NW at 1160 West Park Place.

Good afternoon, or good morning, so good morning.

Um all right, Mr.

Ellis, will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

The insulator from on the defense ability subverter of the state of Wisconsin that the test you're about to give is it true, the whole truth and a few truth?

Yes.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

All right, and are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I am.

Okay, and will you state your name and address for the record?

My name is Miller Dellis.

I live at 3879 South Minor Street in Milwaukee.

Hold up.

Oh, sorry, I'm not sure.

No, will you pull the microphone closer to you?

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

Um my name is Miller Dallas.

I live at 3879 South Minor Street apartment for Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Thank you.

Um, all right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Holds for occupancy.

Okay.

Um Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 5117, the applicant was charged with two counts of theft business setting in Rock County Circuit Court on 71918, the applicant was convicted and fined.

Okay.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes, I can.

Um it was a property I was at, and they charged me and my staff with um um account receivables or um the count receivables that wasn't going to the clients.

Um it was no wrongdoing.

Um I fought it for as long as I could.

Um then financially I just had to um make a deal to be honest with you.

Okay.

All right.

Questions on the police report for the applicant from committee members.

Questions on the police report from Alderwoman Taylor for the applicant.

No, no questions.

Okay.

Um all right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um, I do see it's a new application.

Do you want to tell us a little bit about your plan and your experience?

Yes, um, the hotel has been there for 25 years.

I've been at the property for a little over a year.

Um it's uh new ownership group.

Um so we're pretty much a hundred and eighty four room property, um servicing um any guests that comes in the area teams.

Um let me see where here we have I have about 85 employees, uh restaurant, meeting space.

Um and we've done pretty well since I've been there for the past year, and I you know, I'm hoping to continue that.

I guess my experience I've um I mean over 15 years of experience for myself for doing the the particular um hospitality.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, with that, if uh there's no questions from committee members at this time.

Um we are in the ninth Aldermanic district.

Alder Woman Taylor.

Um like he said, he's been there for quite some time.

Um he's uh been very cooperative and working with me on security.

So I um I think the ninth district would be happy to support his application at this time.

Okay, thank you.

Um we'll go back in the committee.

Any uh motion from committee?

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves for approval.

Any objection?

Any discussion?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck, Mr.

Ellis.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, we'll move on to our 950 a.m.

agenda item.

Anna R.

Beres, agent for Mi Familia's Kitchen LLC, food dealer and food pedal licenses renewal application for Mi Familia's kitchen LLC at 626 South Fifth Street.

Is Anna R.

Perez present?

On the board.

All right.

Oh, are you you're not passing?

Oh, okay.

I said that was good.

Oh, never mind.

Pardon that's because you are, yeah.

All right.

Okay, good morning.

Alderman Perez and Anna is here virtually.

If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do it's not your firm on the independent penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony we're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

Thank you.

Ah no, we didn't hear anything.

Okay, we're not hearing anything from Anna Perez.

Not sure if you need to sick fix your settings.

Or go go in and come out.

Miss Bedez.

Move for temporary hope.

Miss Perez, please check your settings on the top of your computer.

You'll see a little digit there.

Get that, go to your audio and check your microphone setting because right now it shows you're on muted, but we cannot hear you.

All right.

Um Alderman Jackson's gonna move this move to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections to order just to give Anna time to fix her settings, and we'll go move on to the next item in District 12.

Um, we'll move on to our 955 a.m.

agenda item.

Just let us know as soon as you get that fixed, Miss Perez.

Um, all right, on our 955 AM agenda item, Luis Miguel Cumplido, agent for El, is it Mananeto?

L L C food dealer and food fed food peddler licenses application for El Manero at 1601 West Lincoln Avenue.

Good morning.

Oh, thank you.

And um looks like Carmen Roman is gonna help with interpretation.

Thank you.

All right.

Um Mr.

Miguel Cumplido, will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in as well as Carmen?

Do you sonly affirm on the dependence and penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin?

Who's got the wrong hand up?

Doesn't matter.

Oh, manual.

Oh no, you're all the right.

It doesn't matter, technically.

Go ahead.

Do you solve your family defense and penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin?

Usted affirmation bajo las penas is sanciones del prejuio that the testimony you're about to give that I'm sorry, that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

Thank you.

And Carmen.

Thank you.

All right.

And um Luis, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Um la possibility.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um and if you'll please state your name and address for the record.

South 48th Street.

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Okay.

53218.

And your name, you need to say your name.

Luis Miguel Cumplido.

Thank you.

And then Carmen, will you introduce yourself to Carmen Roman, staff assistant, uh 2280 West Mangle Avenue.

Thank you.

Um all right, very good.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Uh hold for inspection.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornejo is our police report.

Sergeant Cornejo uh read the report.

I just want to know for the committee when we notice this one we listed the applicant as a shareholder, but he's the actual applicant, so you will hear Sergeant Cornell refer to him as the applicant versus shareholder that's listed in your file.

It is the same person, we just noticed it incorrectly.

Okay.

And in the police report, the following items pertain to 1601 West Lincoln Avenue.

And 1311, the applicant was charged in Milwaukee County Court and found guilty of OWI first.

Oh no, there's one further translate.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yes.

Um 317.

Um 23% of the stockholder eres two.

Um the first one's done.

On 4 24 17, the applicant was charged in Milwaukee County Court and found guilty of OWI second, sentence to a forfeiture, initial uh interlock one year, ten days, correction, and driver's license revoked one year.

Um de novo con operando bajo la influenza uh no te encarcelaro in correction y la licencia fue revocada por un anno.

Okay.

The applicant was charged in Waukee County Court and found guilty of OWI third sentence 90 days at the house of correction, ignition interlock two years, and driver's license revoked for two years.

Sentenced to 180 days at the house of correction, ignition interlocked two years, and job is licensed revoked for three years.

Um dos anjos de interlock y te suspendieron la licencia de conducir por three años.

And 5523, the applicant was charged in Milwaukee Court, uh Milky County Court and found guilty of OWI fifth, sentenced to two years in state prison and three years extended supervision.

In Mayo 53, um Departamento de Milwaukee de Cargoon Tro culpable de operar Bajo la influenza de Novo for quinta vez.

And 22726, an email was sent to the Department of Correction requesting the probation or parole status of the listed agents uh be sent to license division with any objections to the license.

Um license division para esta licencia.

Okay, would you like to speak to this police report?

Um deprimido in it.

He was mequivocate, pero he acknowledged that he made mistakes.

Um he was very depressed, and he's trying to change it.

He's trying to change, he's been changing.

He acknowledged that he makes mistakes and he was because he was in a deep depression.

There's a letter in the file from DOC.

Um I don't know if that would be a licensing entry.

Yes, I do see in the file there.

Did you want to speak to that, Ms.

Lopez?

I'm sorry.

Um I'm it's just stating that they are not in violation.

Correct, I see that letter from the Wisconsin Department of Corrections.

Um from committee members on the police report at this time?

Questions from Alderman Petis on the police report?

Okay.

Um are there any neighbors present that wish to testify in this item?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the 12th Aldermanic district, President Petis.

Yeah, I I guess I'll get now that I think of it, I will ask a question or two just to get it on the record because I did speak to the African, but I don't want to speak on his behalf.

Um could you talk about I I want you do you get anywhere near driving the food truck?

I mean uh do you drive the food truck to its location and back to the base?

No, not the catewancar de Sus Micunado porque no soy dumus como those person.

He does not drive, he has his uh brother in law who is in charge of driving the food truck to the base and to the place.

Um and just if you could talk about the counseling or rehab that he's attended since the last incident.

Sure.

Can you repeat that again?

I'm sorry.

That he's attended or completed.

Okay, so he understands he he cannot drive.

He's been in different programs, he goes to AA, um, and he he is aware that he's can drive, so he's doing everything and doing the programs to get better and to follow what he needs to follow.

In our meeting he told me he completed the AODA training the AODA counselling at UCC, I want to verify that's true on the record.

Okay.

He he did completed the program.

The program has been completed.

So his parole officer gave him many programs for him to follow and to complete, and as of today he had completed everything that it's been assigned to him.

Okay.

And can I ask do you continue to go to the AA meetings on a regular basis?

Regularmented.

So right now he's not going, he completed already when he needed to complete it.

Um because he's working seven days seven days every day and then maybe and sometimes just one day off.

Okay.

President Perez.

Yeah, no, I um speaking to the I also asked him if he was had anything to drink and he said since he's been going to treatment he has, I just want to get that on a record too.

He has not had a drink.

Um and then when he's uh visit his parole officer, they always check his um blood test and they do different testing and he's fine.

And uh the they test you for both drugs and alcohol.

Yeah, for everything.

And you have tested negative?

Yeah, uh salida negative.

Yep.

Negative.

All right.

I'm gonna be questions.

Okay.

Um can I just make a soft recommendation?

I I'm happy to hear that you did all the programs that they assigned to you and you completed them.

Uh but if I can recommend to you, I know that um people in the alcohol and alcoholics anonymous program, it is a it is a lifetime thing to help you to continue to maintain your sobriety.

So I just want to make a recommendation that that you continue on with that community because I think it can be very helpful.

Okay, but not a not a requirement, just uh recommendation.

And then Perez asked the recommendation degree con alguien que cambies in the trabajo para que puedas ir a uno continuar yendo a two meetings.

Okay.

All right, okay.

Thank you.

Um with that, I uh you know I'm satisfied with the explanation I did say to him that if there was another incident, he could he's at risk of losing a license.

So thank you, President Perez.

All right, well with that, I think we can still head into committee unless he had any final comments that he didn't uh comment the que yo bayang and to license it, we're gonna have a carrier to license.

He would appreciate the chance to have the license because he's trying to do something better for himself and he's keeping track.

Okay, thank you.

With that, does the committee have a motion?

All right.

Um Vice Chair Pratt has moved for approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Good.

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Thank you.

All right.

Um Vice Chair Pratt moves to reconsider our 950 a.m.

agenda item.

Anna R.

Perez, agent for me familiar's kitchen LLC, food dealer and food peddler licenses renewal application for me family's kitchen, LLC at 626 South Fifth Street.

Is Anna Perez present?

Yes.

Hi there.

Hi.

Um all right, wonderful.

Can we um have you raise your right hand, Anna, and we'll get you sworn in?

Yes.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you.

And Anna, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Okay, and if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Okay, thank you.

Um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Uh whole transpection.

Thank you.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

One second, sorry.

Okay.

Yes, on 12925, the applicant was cited for food dealers' license required.

On 42425, they were uh convicted and has a outstanding S2 of 699 dollars.

All right.

Um and that's still past due.

Correct.

All right.

Um, would you like to speak to the police report?

Uh yeah, so I called this morning and I started a payment point.

I already started you already gave uh 20 dollar uh payment towards uh the fine IO and I'm gonna keep paying for it.

I think the next one the next payments in 60 days.

Uh the guys that can do either 20 or if I can do more, and um I'm sure I will be able to um more pay more towards the final.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

Um questions on the police report from committee members.

All right.

Um who can I ask Anna who's so did MPD come and cite you for operating without a license?

Is that what happened?

No, I think it was uh a health inspector.

Okay.

It's not in the file.

All right, thank you.

Uh is anybody from the health department here?

All right.

You're the ones that cite for some cite for that.

Well, we have LF license, you know.

That's it's a possibility and PD could do it.

Um, President Bettes, I'm sorry, do you have any questions?

Yeah, I just want to state that uh since you started the payment plan this morning, it won't register in the system.

So um if that's the case, then maybe maybe it's held, and if we can verify this before council, maybe move it forward or move it forward, knowing that if we if it's not verified by council date, we can pull it from committee.

Sure, we could hold it and then um assuming it's been verified, take it up on the special.

I I I forward the email, my the email receipt that I got um toward to the license at Milwaukee.gov.

Okay, well let's check one second, Anna.

I think MPD was gonna weigh in here.

Sergeant, um I just get a text from one of my officers in the office saying that she has made a payment that that the due date is now listed for June of 29th.

June 29th.

Okay.

And Madam Chair.

Yes, go ahead, uh license division.

We did get the confirmation of payment.

Okay.

So can I ask a question?

Please.

What happens if she doesn't make the payment?

Like the next payment?

Well, because um we will if if we move forward and it's approved, if she doesn't make the payment in June, what is what does that do to the license?

Sergeant.

So obviously she's on a payment plan right now, so if it was to be approved today, then it would go to committee and you guys would approve it then.

If she does default on her next payment in June, then we would report that on the next renewal as a defaulted payment, and that it's it's got an outstanding forfeiture.

But she'll retain the license until the following year.

That's correct.

Oh, President Beta.

Yeah, unless there's a move for revocation.

President Bettis.

Well, I got the info I needed.

We could still hold it if you wanted to have some dialogue with the applicant.

No, I I think I will, and if there's a problem, I'll pull it back from commitment.

Okay.

So we'll we'll hold it today.

No, I I say move it forward if after I have a conversation if it's not if it's not the outcome I want, then I'll come to you all on the floor.

I'll have it removed.

Have it sent back.

Yeah, have it sent back.

So you're happy to move forward with the application today.

All right.

Are there any neighbors present to testify in this item today?

Mi familia's kitchen.

No.

All right.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um we did just hear from um President Betes, but we are in the 12th Aldermanic district.

Anything final, Alderman Bettes?

Just uh I I would say my recommendation, I have no objection other than to approve it with a warning letter.

All right, and I know your plan intend to talk to the applicant um very soon.

So um Ms.

Bettes, be sure to make sure you connect with Alderman Beth.

Um but with that I think we can head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Uh move approval with a warning letter.

Vice Chair Pratt has moved for approval with a warning letter.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

All right, good luck, Miss Bedez.

Be sure to connect with um President Joseph Bettes.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

We're gonna move on now to our 10 a.m.

agenda item.

Jasminder Singh, agent for Texas Food L L C Class A Malton Class A Liquor and Food Dealer Licenses Renewal Application for Texas Food at 1201 West National Avenue.

All right, good morning to morning, Mayor.

Good morning, Council.

Do you want to introduce yourself?

Sure, attorney uh Michael Mayslum on behalf of uh Jess Mendersing.

All right.

And his son is here too.

Very good.

Um all right, would you two raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

Do you solve you from the independent benefit of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give?

Is it true the whole truth and everything with the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um all right, Mr.

Singh, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And then um, will you each state your name and address for the record?

My name is Jasmine Dessing.

And I leave in the house, have a group of salvation Franklin.

Thank you.

Understanding uh for the assignment two to seven, south country drive, Franklin Wisconsin 52.

Thank you.

Um all right, Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornehall, is there a police report?

On 1125 at 6.07 p.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to the battery.

Investigation revealed two subjects were fighting inside the store, and the clerk was observed engaging in a verbal argument with the subjects.

Well, onto the bat, uh when interviewed, the clerk stated they didn't see or hear anything.

However, video surveillance depicted the incident on 4925 at 8 50 p.m.

Milky police were dispatched to a violation restraint order.

The caller stated that they held a restraint order on an ex who approached them at the business, threatening them and punching their car window.

The business was closed on officers' arrival.

Follow up on a different date, reveal no video footage.

9 27 25 milky police were conducting an alcohol compliance checks at approximately 11 02 a.m.

a safety cadet, not a legal age to purchase alcohol, entered uh the business and purchased alcohol beverage from the cashier who did not check ID.

The agent was cited for sale of alcohol to underage.

Uh they were convicted and fined 451 dollars.

All right, would you like to speak to the police report?

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Sergeant.

Um so uh like the last one.

This is uh these folks haven't been in front of the committee in five years.

It's been renewed um on the consent agenda.

Um so to address the issues that we've had on the police report, I've submitted just recently, like within the last 15 minutes, uh, a mitigation plan uh after we're discussing the issues and and the serious concerns that uh Alderman Perez has.

Um and I think uh Favilla, I hope you haven't.

I know I sent it to your dear also.

We asked that it be made part of the part of the file, and it addresses these issues and other issues.

Uh regarding uh the first incident where there was uh uh uh a fight in the in the in the store um and the clerk didn't uh uh didn't acknowledge that when the police came.

We are now sitting down with all of our staff going through with them what they're what they need to do uh and when when things happen, there's a protocol now, and they got a one strike and they're fired.

Um and so those incidents won't happen again.

It's it's the only one uh of that kind uh within the last year.

And then the um the other one, which was my client's fault, was the sale of uh an alcohol beverage to a minor.

We've now uh obtained a um an ID scanner that we've implemented and we're using it.

We've we've already purchased it, we're not coming to you saying we're gonna use it.

We've already put it into uh into use.

Um you know, we think that the those address uh some of these issues, but my mitigation plan goes into much more detail about what else we're gonna be doing, including scheduling a meeting at the premises with the community liaison officers to walk around to see if there's any other um mitigation issues that we can do regarding additional cameras, lighting, removing signs so that police can see in better, uh, and that will be taking place, we hope within the next few weeks.

Uh and including we're also gonna be uh uh asking the MPD to install fuses cameras for our outdoor cameras.

Right now we have 16 cameras, four of them are outside, 12 of them are inside.

Uh we have uh 12 very powerful lights, outside positioned for maximum security, but also that uh takes into account to not disturb the uh the the neighbors.

Um if there's any more specific questions, uh like I said, it it's uh a full one-page mitigation plan that goes over additional things that are not even on the police report.

Um so I have uh I have nothing further to say.

I welcome any questions.

Uh Madam Chair, yes.

I just forward that email to the members.

Okay, yes, I do.

I'm looking at it now.

My email.

All right, um questions from committee members on the police report.

Um questions uh on the police report from Alderman Bettes.

Yeah, I well I I do want to know the has the employee that sold the alcohol to the minor, is he at the location?

Is me has he been removed from the location?

He has made a removed from the location.

Thank you.

Okay.

So he was an employee that you and you terminated his employment.

From that location, he's not working there anymore.

Okay, and with uh to tech ID all the time, you know.

And possibly integrated the ID system, so we scan it all the time.

So is he working at another one of your locations?

No, not at our locations.

Okay.

Anything further, Alderman Peters?

Yeah, no, that was I just wanted to verify that.

All right.

All right.

Um, yes, we do take it very seriously.

It's really unfortunate the number of um businesses that have been caught selling alcohol to minors.

And so um it is a very serious offense, and we appreciate you putting forward a mitigation plan.

Madam Chair, can I ask the committee to or ask the applicant and the committee to submit that as part of the record and part of his plan of operation and mitigation plan?

Yes, would you like it?

If there's uh somebody can make a motion, yeah.

Okay, please actually yeah.

Okay, um Alderman Bergellis moves to add the um recently submitted mitigation plan to the plan of operation for the applicant and hearing no objection, so ordered.

Thank you.

All right, anything further, Alderman Petas?

No, I've I've spoken to the applicant in detail and to his counsel, and um they know that um the only dumb mistake is the one you repeat, so I don't expect to have any issues with them.

All right, are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

All right, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um anything final before we head into committee.

I don't think there's anything else.

I just want to say that I'm satisfied with the mitigation plan and that it's part of the plan of operation.

I expect them to stick to it and um I I think uh a warning letters uh appropriate at this time.

Okay, thank you.

All right, with that we'll head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

I'm sure Alderman Burrellis.

Um I appreciate that the uh applicant has taken steps to be proactive and have the uh cards, the ID scanning equipment in the uh integrated with every purchase.

Um appreciate that to be consistent.

Uh I think an approval with warning letters uh warranted.

Okay, you'll make that motion.

And I make that motion.

Um Alderman Peter Bergellis moves for approval with a warning letter.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Thank you very much.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Singh.

Thank everybody.

Thank you.

All right.

We will move on to our 10 05 a.m.

agenda item.

Um agent for those campitas fish and chicken LLC, food dealer and food pillar licenses application for those compitas compitas.

That was fish and chicken at 1100 West Historic Mitchell Street.

All right, good morning.

One of the yes.

Yeah, speaking of the way of all right.

Would you like to introduce yourself, attorney?

Yeah, my name is attorney Tom Hayes, H A Y E S.

Okay.

Thank you.

I present uh Mr.

Osido Koto.

I've actually his uh criminal defense attorney.

So I'm here to address what is the uh apparently the uh objection to or maybe not the objection, but just the notice uh the application advice of all.

All right.

Um and as is practice chair, um, if we don't want to address it, uh we could move approval and then hold that item open.

If you do want to address it, address it fully so that we don't hold it after addressing it.

So make that choice before um we proceed into any kind of questions.

So as we'll proceed, I just want to make sure that you know we don't take don't take both paths as it were.

Right.

I'm gonna get um input from the local elder, but we do have to sort of uh okay.

So um Mr.

Cotto, can you raise your right hand so we can get you sworn in?

Is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

Um and are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, okay, thank you.

And uh will you please state your name and address for the record?

Uh the S31, Nordice State.

Okay.

1031 Nord 26th Street.

All right.

And your name?

Okay, thank you.

All right, and then Carmen Roman is here again to help us with the interpretation.

Thank you.

Um okay.

Very good.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Sorry.

Um holds.

Okay, thank you.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 12524.

Oh, I'm sorry, wait.

Do you we don't want him to read it in?

No, read it in.

Okay.

But then we're gonna discuss it.

We discuss it in full.

Yes.

If we don't want to discuss it and hold it open, we don't discuss it and hold it open.

I know that sometimes it's like it's very tempting to kind of like deal with it in part and then try and hold it or pull it back.

But once we've opened the gate, we might as well discuss it in full.

But again, it has to be read in and then we'll address whether or not we're going to fully um discuss it.

Got it.

Sorry about that, Sergeant.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Uh 12524.

The applicant was charged with battery to council of disordered conduct and felony second degree sexual assault with domestic abuse modifier in Wolkey County Circuit Court.

It's currently scheduled for jury trial.

5426.

Alright, with that.

Wanted to go to the local Alder.

Um and get your perspective.

Alder and Beta, shall we hold it open or I think we should hold it open.

Um this is pretty consistent with what we do.

And um in many cases, I had a similar case that the charging and the actual verdict or disposition of plea agreement in the end was much different than what the initial charge was, and I'd rather deal with what the outcome of the case is in order to have that weigh into uh the committee's decision.

Very good.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Um as it still needs to be adjudicated.

Um I'm hearing the local elder um advocate for holding the item open, and um I would agree, but Alder Member Gallus.

Um this this is scheduled for next week.

Um would there be any harm in delaying this cycle?

Just holding it.

I it I don't know that it'll be settled on uh at next week's hearing or trial.

When when when's the what's the hearing next week?

520 something.

What was the schedule?

Yeah.

Yes, the uh the matter is scheduled to go to a jury trial beginning Monday morning at 8 30.

So is that likely to be resolved uh by Monday boarding?

It'll be correct, correct.

But would it be resolved in three weeks?

I would suspect it'll be resolved uh at some point next week, yes.

Fine, we can hold it a cycle if that's the case.

Is this a new application?

Yeah.

So he has to wait.

He could it could pass today and he could begin his business.

Uh or we could hold it and he's delayed another from opening his next cycle and we can have the actual outcome of the case and then make a decision then I thought it was a review.

Application.

This is a new application.

And this is not alcohol, this is just food.

It's a food truck.

Yeah, it's a food truck.

You are delaying the opening of a business.

Um and it's uh there's no alcohol involved.

It's a food truck.

I'll defer to the alder.

Alderman, but I just want to ask the question if there's if if I mean the alder will be.

I would ask that he'd be able to he's he he's uh he has uh two sons, and he is a responsible businessman, he's got no criminal record.

And I have every um I I hope and I expect that the jury, if he does go to a jury trial next week, we'll we'll acquit him of each of the charges.

And so he's 41 years old, and he has operated in the city before, and he has no violations.

So I would think that it would be in the city's best interest as well as my clients' best interest if he could bigot operations with Madam Chair.

Uh Alder Member Gallus.

Thank you.

Well, if if it is resolved next week, uh we still have the opportunity to add this to the special agenda before council.

Um I don't think I think we just heard I mean oftentimes these jury we see these dates in here and they they still haven't happened.

That's more often than that.

So I I mean I would object to the hold.

I I believe we'll take it to a roll call if you uh insist, but we heard from the local alder who was good holding this item open and moving forward with this um food license.

It's not an alcohol license.

Um do you want to take your motion to a vote?

Alder Member Gallis.

I know um Alder Alderman Alex Bower is just coming to the table, but um yeah, I am objecting to the hold of this application.

I think we should hear it through and not make him hold off on opening his food truck that does not contain an alcohol license.

Do you want to repeat your motion, Alderman?

Hold to the call of the chair.

Alderman Peter Bergallison moves to hold to the call of the chair.

The chair requests a roll call vote.

Alderman Jackson.

I have to abstain.

I wasn't here for the discussion.

Alder Member Getes.

Aye.

Otherwoman Pratt?

Choice.

Uh aye.

Audible man Samaripa.

No.

The motion prevails.

Three.

Three yes.

One no and one abstention.

All right.

I'm s I'm sorry.

We're delaying the opening of this business.

It doesn't contain an alcohol license.

Um the motion is approved.

The my item is held.

You'll have to wait till next cycle.

Thank you.

What's the date of the next cycle?

Or sorry, May 19th.

May 19th.

May 18th.

There's still an opportunity to add to the special.

Yes, if you get the what are you looking for to for the matter to be entirely the jury trial to be complete and get it on the special and what what's the date?

Three weeks.

Our next council meetings the 20th.

If the jury trial, if everything's been adjudicated, could potentially get it on the special.

Yeah, the May 12th.

May 12th is the common council, and prior to the common council, there's a special licensing hearing.

So if it is adjudicated, it could theoretically get on that special.

It's a consent agenda effectively, so there's no um there's there's not as much evidence taking.

There's not as much uh procedure, but it could be placed on that.

It could also be placed again on the licensing committee, the full blown committee on the 19th.

Or sorry, the May 19th.

The 19th.

So May 12th is a possibility or May 19th if the matter is adjudicated.

May 12th is the consent agenda.

The May 18th is the licensing committee.

Yes, the next committee meeting.

Does uh Mr.

Oslo Cortato need to do anything in order to get out of the agenda for the 19th, or will he automatically placed there at this point?

No, he wouldn't be automatically placed.

I mean it would be up to the Alder if the committee's waiting for the case to be adjudicated.

We would have to get a update after the May 4th date.

Yes, definitely stay in contact with Alderman Bedez's office and let him know how the matter is proceeding.

Yeah, so I should put out uh uh perhaps um there I looked at the um Judge Borowski's jury calendar for Monday.

And Mr.

Oslo Koto is out of custody, and this is a case that um the date of the alleged offense was back in November, December of 2024.

And Mr.

Judge Borowski has two speedy trials involving homicides that are scheduled for Monday, and they're both in custody.

And so there is a very good likelihood.

I can't say for sure, but there's a very good likelihood based upon the way the cases are prioritized in the criminal justice system that Judge Borowski will need to take one of the in-custody homicide defendants as opposed to Mr.

Oslo Koto.

And so my question would be um is if Mr.

Oswalkoto's case is still pending as a May 19th.

Are we going to run into the same uh motion?

Yes, we could if the committee I I I did make an appeal.

Voted down.

I would encourage you to stay in touch with Alderman Bedas' office.

I'm sorry that this happened today, but perhaps there's an opportunity to get you guys on the special.

I would I would reach out to Alderman Bettes' office.

Okay.

It could be at the special.

We move it forward and keep it open.

Yes, exactly.

I think that's the possibility, but again, please be in touch with his office.

But we'll have to we'll have to move on.

Thank you, attorney.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Um we'll move on to our 1010 a.m.

agenda item.

Cullen Voss, agent for Indeed Brewing Company, Dub Wisconsin, LLC.

Public Entertainment Premises, license application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey, bands, poetry readings, patrons contests, comedy acts, one pool table, two concerts a year, and shuffle board for Indeed Brewing Company at 530 South Second Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

If you'll raise your right hand, Mr.

Voss.

Do you show any of them on the depensing penalties of burger of the state always gone saying that the Thursday morning vote to give is it through the whole truth and if you want the truth?

Yes.

Thank you, sir.

All right, thank you.

And are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I am.

Thank you.

If you'll state your name and address for the record.

Cullen Voss, Via Zinvictor, OSS, uh 2612.

Excuse me.

2612 North Pierce Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53212.

Thank you.

All right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Sorry.

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Gordon, is there a police report?

Uh 101125.

The applicant was cited for excessive noise prohibited.

We tell pretrial scheduled for 625-26 at 8 30 a.m.

Thank you.

Um would you like to speak to the police report, sir?

Uh to my understanding, there's a misunderstanding.

We did have our noise permit, noise variance permit, and there was a neighbor who submitted a request to the police department to issue us a citation.

Um, and as the officer said it's still in pretrial.

Uh and we intend to uh pursue that with a not guilty plea.

Because you applied for in and received a noise variance permit it was approved.

Um had it not been approved, we would not have gone forward with the event in the way that we did.

Okay, and you're so you're gonna go ahead and go to to trial and make that point.

We have one more pre-trial appearance.

Hopefully, it will be resolved at that time, but um otherwise, yeah, we would like to maintain that we did nothing wrong.

Okay, thank you.

Any further questions on the police report from committee members at this time?

Any questions from Alderman Bettes on the police report?

Not now.

Okay.

All right.

Um are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this matter today?

You got one hand.

Yeah.

Who's that?

Uh yes, Edwin Thaves.

I'm a neighbor that I'd like to testify.

Okay, thank you.

Uh Mr.

Thaves, can you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

The Azony from the Benz of Bernardizer Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true to hold good and up from the truth?

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Will you state your name and address for the record, Mr.

Thaves, and then you can go right into your remarks.

You'll have two and a half minutes.

My name is Edwin Thaves, 710 South Third Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53204.

Uh I've been uh a resident of Walkers Point for over 12 years, and I'm here to strongly oppose the public entertainment premises license for indeed brewing.

Granting this license would reward a business that has treated our city ordinances as optional for years.

Indeed brewing has a history of hosting public entertainment events without the required licensing.

They were firmly notified by the city months ago that these activities require public entertainment premises license, yet they continue to host unlicensed events for months while the paperwork sat in the queue.

This is not a misunderstanding, it is a deliberate choice to operate outside the law.

On October 11, 2025, indeed was issued a formal citation for excessive noise.

The city attorney has informed me in writing that they are actively prosecuting indeed, stating their belief that the company is being rightly prosecuted.

Even with the noise ordinance, a noise variance, a business is legally required to maintain volume at the lowest practical level.

Indeed, did the opposite.

Indeed, brewing has demonstrated they cannot be trusted to self-regulate to secure a permit reversal from all the person perez, their representative promised that speakers will be kept inside the garage doors.

This was a false statement.

These crises begin here in the failure to stop nuisance issues before they spiral.

We have seen in neighboring municipalities how failing to address these issues leads to litigation and claims that the city has created a sanctioned nuisance.

If the committee grants this license to indeed brewing, despite a documented of noise, deception, and active prosecution, you are signaling that the rules do not matter.

You're effectively authorizing a nuisance, choosing to prioritize a business's preferences over the mandatory legal rights of the taxpaying residents you represent to the quiet enjoyment of their home.

I urge the committee to protect the quality of life in Walker's Point and deny this license.

Thank you.

Oh, perfect.

Perfect timing, Mr.

Thayes.

Thank you for your testimony.

Um did you submit your photographic evidence as well.

Uh I did not submit that uh to the committee.

Uh the city attorney does have those photos, I believe.

Okay, thank you.

And and you live in proximity of the business, correct?

Or is it your business that's in I I live in proximity?

Uh I have 710 South Third Street, which and the business is located in second street, so it's nearby, and I've uh lived here for about uh 12 plus years.

Okay, thank you.

Further questions for Mr.

Thaves from committee members at this time.

Questions from Alderman Bettes for Mr.

Thaves.

Okay.

Questions from the applicant for Mr.

Thaves at this time.

Only questions, please.

Yes, uh, the only question I have is there were two instances where we reached out to have a discussion with you, and we never received a response, and I'm curious why.

Yeah, thank you for giving me a chance to uh answer that question.

I actually uh reached out to you I think uh three to five times before the the event on October 11th uh occurred, and uh the evening of that that event uh when uh I was contacted by Indeed, uh they had indicated their their intention to have music as loud as uh 90 decibels, and at that time the uh noise variance permit had not been uh approved, and there was uh concern that I had expressed about that.

I I don't feel that um Indeed Brewing has been a good neighbor.

Um I think there's other businesses in in the neighborhood that uh have done a much better job at reaching out to neighbors and respecting uh the the noise variants, and uh like I mentioned, even with a valid permit, that's not uh uh uh license to be as loud as you want.

And I don't think that the volume was a practical level.

I think it was an intentional nuisance, and it was clear to me prior to the event that uh representatives of Indeed were not uh willing to uh be considerate of the neighborhood.

All right, anything further?

Nothing further.

I I do have a question for Mr.

Thaves.

Mr.

Thames, is is your objection to the PEP for the establishment um with the way it runs the business, or is it a special permanent event where um they are doing something or an event outside the building?

Yeah, thank you for that question, uh Alderez.

My concern is is really both.

Uh they've been operating activities for quite a while without a permit, uh, and even after the the city had notified them of the need for a permit for things like trivia contests and and uh DJs and things like that, they continue to have those events even with the permit.

Uh so even without a permit.

And and so I have concerns that the business will continue to uh not follow the the ordinances because they haven't in the past.

Uh so that certainly is a concern.

And then I I have uh concerns about uh events that involve live and recorded music uh such as the event that occurred in October because I think they've demonstrated their unwillingness to uh follow city ordinances.

Um and just for the record, I mean it isn't a question I I do want to thank Mr.

Thaves for uh several emails to our office.

Um we are currently working on some legislation about the noise uh variants ordinance because he is correct after someone applies for a variance, the application says please keep it at a r reasonable amount, but there is no documented reasonable, and we're trying to figure that out as uh through some legislation with the city attorney's office.

So he is correct about that.

Um I'd like to expect um any establishment moving forward and look forward to my colleagues chiming in on how we can do enforcement and once you get a variance that it is uh an actual decibel level that is one acceptable that can be adhered to and that uh we can enforce.

Thank you.

All right, I do have another question though, but it is Mr.

Thaves mentioned that they were out with without a public entertainment informed by it.

He said something about it being in limbo.

But uh I I want to know what what that means either from the license division or maybe from the applicant.

Could you repeat that?

Mr.

Thaves mentioned in his testimony that um the paperwork was in limbo, or maybe Mr.

Thaves, you can tell us what that means?

Yeah, thanks for that question.

So my understanding is uh I I had had noticed uh on the Indeed Brewing Milwaukee website that they were hosting a number of uh public entertainment activities, and I had reached out to the licensing committee regarding uh those uh activities, and the licensing committee had had informed me that they did not have the required public entertainment premises license for the activities that they've long uh had, such as trivia contests, uh murder mysteries, dating nights, uh DJs and and so on.

And uh my understanding is that even after the licensing committee had informed Indeed Brewing of the need for public entertainment premises license, they continued to host these unlicensed events while the um the permit application was uh being processed.

Is is there any follow-up to that by either the license division, or maybe anyone can if Mr.

Thaves forwarded to someone that they were still operating, was there any action taken?

I know we received a few emails from him, and it was stated that his objection would be added to the file, but if there were any events of entertainment that he should call the police since our office does not enforce.

Um I'm not sure if he ever did, as there's nothing.

I'll have to look for those.

Okay, and this is a new application, so you're taking over indeed or just the just the PEP.

Oh, it's just the PEP before okay.

So you had it, you had your yes, because I can picture indeed brewing, but you didn't have a PEP.

That's right.

Were you asking for temporary PEPs from licenses in the elder's office?

I don't believe we did that.

Yeah, and and I do take full responsibility.

Um I'm a fairly new agent, uh indeed's been around for about six and a half years, and I've been there about three.

Um it was my understanding, which is now I understand a false um understanding that when it's a third party that is taking the payments and we're just providing the space that there wasn't an additional license that was needed.

Um I am committed to being a good neighbor.

Uh I want indeed to succeed.

I want the neighborhood to succeed.

Um, and you know, I I do try my best, and I'm very apologetic for for being in this uh situation.

Um and as far as the uh the events go, um if we hadn't had our noise variance permit, we would not have carried out the event as we did.

Our sound engineer provided new speakers um a day before the event that couldn't even go over the allowed decibel limit um that we spoke with uh the alderman's office about, um, which as he stated there is no set decibel limit, and we imposed that on ourselves to try and be a good neighbor and uh during that event.

Um and there were also multiple events going on that night in the neighborhood.

Um, so I'm not sure how uh Mr.

Thaves would know that that music and sound was coming from us affecting his residence.

Um because I I walked over to the corner 60 feet and recorded an undecibel uh reading to get you, Mr.

Thaves.

Mr.

Thaves, I'm sorry, we didn't we're we're done listening to witness testimony.

I'm just letting the applicant have the floor a bit and then we have to get moving here.

I understand that, but the applicant is no, he didn't he didn't ask a question of you.

Let's just let him finish his comments here.

Yes, I I do have an email from Mr.

Thaves to a bar manager of Boone and Crockett during their final fest, which occurred on the same night, and they had a much bigger stage with much louder music.

Um so again, I don't know how he can prove that the noise he heard in his residence came from us.

Um did I ask for neighbors already?

Okay.

All right, yes, we uh so uh um I I'd like to ask a question and then I'll go to you, Aldermember Gallis.

So um in Mr.

Thave's testimony, he mentioned microphones, I'm sorry, speakers outdoors or facing outdoors.

Um I I find that that's not a good practice.

I mean that you're bound to get noise complaints if you're using amplified sound outdoors.

Um are you committed to are you uh is that your intent or can you make a commitment to use your amplified sound inside of your business and not place anything outdoors?

Uh yes, the um so for that that event we got the um our original intention was to have a stage outside um for the big block party that we were doing um for our fall event.

Um as part of our sound mitigation plan, we decided to move that stage into the garage.

So the stage setup, the drums, the guitars, everything was inside, except for two monitors, two speakers that could not fit in that section, and this was all happening a day before the event took place.

Um but moving forward, um, again, which is why I asked why we hadn't had a chance to meet.

Um, I would like to take neighborhood um input and talk to neighbors face to face, give them a layout of what we're capable of and work with them because I I'm not interested in being a nuisance.

I don't think we have been.

Um as Mr.

Thaves is the only individual we've ever interacted with who has had negative things to say.

Um but I would like to keep the dialogue open and and make sure that this doesn't happen again.

Okay, thank you.

Alder Member Gallis.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Business has been there for six years, we've been there for three.

Um question for licensing.

Was there ever a PEP application in the past?

And then while licensing is looked looking that up, uh, when did you learn that you needed uh public entertainment premises license?

I don't have the specific date.

Uh yesterday or a year ago, two years ago?

A few months ago.

A few a few months ago.

And how long between learning that you needed a pet, did you apply for one?

Uh it was one of the owners who is here uh today, so he would have a better understanding.

He's the one who submitted that.

Um but to my knowledge it was nearly immediately after we decided to.

And how and how many unlicensed activities did you have in your price between your application date and today?

Uh it could be as many as a dozen.

Did you know that you could get a provisional of one time special event permit for public entertainment from the older person's office?

I wasn't aware that that was an option.

So my my concern is that you knew you needed a license and you willingly knowingly operated without one after applying for a license.

That's that's a problem.

That's problematic for me.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Anything further from committee members?

Uh license division?

To answer Alder Member Gayless's question, um indeed had a license for a temporary public entertainment in 2019 and 2022.

They never held a set of things.

So those are just the special temporary ones.

Correct.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

Anything further from committee members?

All right, we are in the 12th Aldermanic District, Alderman Bedez.

Yeah, um I was also on the impression after needing the the PEP license that that would be it for until then, so I'm I'm a little disappointed about that.

Um, because it was brought to the attention that he did need the public entertainment license um as as for any of the events, whether it's board games or whatever the case may be.

So I'm a little um knowing he needed that um not to do them anymore until then is uh somewhat of a problem for me on the especially after the amount of um communication from the clarity from I guess the com uh Mr.

Thave the complaint and having the license division ready to issue those if needed.

So um the excessive noise, I believe um there was I did deny the for the record I did deny the noise variant until the applicant um reassured me in writing that they could keep it to ninety decibels at fifty to seventy five feet.

I did approve it.

It was a last minute approval, but based that I had that in writing, I did do that.

Um I think since then we've when I talked about the legislation we're looking at lowering it down to 75 at 75 feet, we're trying to get that right.

But um with that said, um I think he's trying to correct things the right way.

They've been there a long time.

Um I appreciate Mr.

Thaves and the uh communication this office and bringing some of these things forward.

Um not everyone's paying attention to some of the license licenses like he is.

We need more people in the neighborhood to do uh a lot more of that, so um it's kind of a tough one.

I don't want to shut these guys down for ten days, but there's something that has to give, and I understand that he wants to do things right and he's doing them now.

And the establishing your hours you close at eleven o'clock on weekends?

Uh yes.

Yeah, it's not like it's a bar time establishment, so I I I wanna take Mr.

Thave's complaint serious, and I also want uh indeed to take um their licenses very serious.

Yes.

Well said, um Alderman Bedez.

Um I just want to echo uh Alderman Bedez's sentiments that we really appreciate uh Mr.

Thaves taking the time out uh to advocate for his neighborhood.

Um but also acknowledge the applicant is trying to write his wrong.

Um Alder Member Gallus.

Um when we're in committee.

Okay.

Um I think that we are going to head into committee with that.

Uh do you or perhaps I should allow the applicant.

Do you have any final brief remarks you want to make before we head into committee to make a motion?

Not at this time.

All right.

Alder Member Gallus.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh I'll move approval for this.

I I don't think that a trivia night is a threat to the health, safety and welfare of the public, right?

Um the the noise issues are the noise issues, uh, and that will likely come up for the regular renewal for the class B cavern or the for the alcohol license later.

Um, but I'll move approval with a warning letter uh right away to be consistent with our uh discipline that we've uh expressed with uh extended hours establishments operating without a license.

Uh I think although this is a new application, it would be approv uh it would be prudent and uh it would be prudent to approve the license with a warning letter off the bat.

Yes.

Um when we have a brew pub like this, I believe those in those entities, unless they have a specifically a tavern license, those entities are licensed by the state outside of so they there is no tavern or alcohol license that the city of Milwaukee has issued that is state issued because this is a brew probe.

Can I get clarification from license division on that?

Yeah, that's correct.

Uh indeed did previously hold a class B tournament license that was um changed.

I forget what year when the full service permit permit was then required.

They did apply for that in 2024.

Um it's been done.

So that is through the state.

I'm sure please.

Yeah, I just wanted to yeah, I support this motion though.

I I think yeah, thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

Alderman Peter Bergellis has moved for approval with a warning letter.

Any further discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

With that, I'll pass the gavel to Alderman Peter Bergellis.

Yes, of course.

Next on our agenda item 1020.

Uh welcome Alderman Chambers.

Rain Wang, agent for Nye Entertainment Inc.

Class B Taverner Public Entertainment Premises License Renewal Application for Dragon's Place.

It's 7200 West Fond du Lac Avenue.

License expires June 19th, 2026.

Is Rain Wang present?

Yes, I am.

Welcome.

Uh please, and are you counsel?

My name is Chi Wayne.

I'm her husband.

All right.

Uh please raise the right hand to be sworn in.

Do you shall hear from the defensive penalty surgery of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it to the whole truth and a film of the truth?

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of today's are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

All right.

Um please state your name and address for the record.

Wayne Wayne, 4320 West Villard Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53218.

Yourself, sir.

Yeah, my name is Chi Wayne.

Uh Sam Edges 4320 uh West Villa Avenue, Milwaukee 5328.

All right.

Thank you for that.

Uh Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Sergeant can you can are there?

Is there a police report?

The following items are related to 7200 West Founder Lac Avenue.

Uh 32925 at 1252 a.m.

Market police were dispatched to a noise nuisance.

Officers encountered a subject playing law music from the motorcycle.

Requested they turn it down, to which they complied.

Uh 41725 at 1211 a.m.

Market police were dispatched to a battery.

Investigation revealed several subjects were fighting inside the establishment due to seeing arrangements.

The business was cooperative and requested all parties uh to leave the establishment.

On 51825 at 9 53 p.m., Milky police were dispatched to a battery.

The victim refused to speak to officers and left a scene.

The business was cooperative.

On 12425 at 1227 a.m.

Milky police were dispatched to shots fired.

Milky police were dispatched to a battery.

Investigation revealed the victim and suspect were in a verbal argument, uh, which eventually turned physical, causing the victim to be knocked out.

The victim was unconscious, had a pulse, but not breathing.

Officers observed major swelling and bleeding to the face.

The victim was transported to a hospital where officers were informed they would survive, however, what likely suffer long-term cognitive delays.

Follow-up was conducted with the agent who provided video surveillance of the incident.

Sergeant would have kind of like to speak to the items on the police report.

Yes.

Can you hear me?

So for all of the instances that was mentioned, um, I believe my staff handed them very well by getting the um the patients out of the building and getting them dispersed and off of the proper property inside and out.

Um in regards to this last incident that was um where is this one?

Four or five, please.

Yes, four or five, thank you.

Um this happened after hours after our um our bar, our tavern was closed.

Um our staff was just closing down doing the end of the night procedures inside the building.

Um I believe my security did do his job earlier.

He got everything dispersed.

Um there was a video provided that he was separating the two victims.

He got them to get in their car and leave.

All of my staff was in the building, say doing the night procedures, and one of the gentlemans uh the victim came back.

My security, um, seeing that this gentleman pulled up on the video camera, and he went out there to once again stop the incident from happening.

Um he's only one person.

The rest of my staff did stay inside the building because he told them, you know, he never knows what happens.

All of my bartenders are females.

You know, he's security.

He went out there to handle the situation.

It didn't go so well.

The gentleman did get hurt, but I believe my staff did do everything that we're supposed to do.

My security ran back in, told the bartender to call 911, which they did.

He went back out there and stayed next to the victim until the personnel showed up.

The uh medical personnel showed up.

All right, thank you.

Uh does the committee have any questions for on the police report?

Does local alder have any questions on the police report?

All right.

Um there any neighbors present that we should testify on this item?

Yes, it is.

There's one in uh one online.

I'm sorry I can't read your name that far away.

Please raise your right hand and we'll swear you in.

And you'll have two minutes, you'll have two and a half minutes on the clock.

Do you saw your phone that defensive penalty said, Burger of the State of Wisconsin?

That the test you might is it true to hold truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

And then um, can you give us your name and address, please?

Absolutely.

My name is Asia Lane.

I live at 3323 North 22nd Street in the wall in Wisconsin, 53206.

I am here on the behalf.

Thank you very much, Ms.

Lane.

You're two and a half minutes starting out.

Yes, I'm here on the behalf of my brother, Alan Lane.

And I'm also speaking from my professional role as a licensed social worker here in Milwaukee County.

I reviewed all the videos, and this incident is very unfortunate.

And for it to be dissipated as if it was just a fight, and as if, oh, her security did everything he could.

You have one security officer for an entire bar.

My brother has long-time impairments from this incident.

It is suggested that your security acting at this establishment protected my brother, and he didn't.

However, there was nothing visible to identify him as a security, no uniform, no badge, no clear indication of authority from a safety and regulatory standpoint.

That is a serious failure.

Under Wisconsin Statute 440.26, individuals performing private security functions are required to be properly credentialed and identifiable while on duty.

Addition, alcohol licensed establishments operating under chapter 125 has an obligation to maintain order and protection for the health and safety and welfare of patriots.

At the local level, Milwaukee Common Council and the City of Milwaukee licensed division enforces ordinances that require license premises to operate in a manner that does not endanger public safety or contribute to disorderly conduct.

And from what I observed on those videos, there was a lack of visible structured security present at a critical moment when intervention could have prevented this from happening.

You all allow these two people, individuals, my brother and Mr.

Brown to be at this establishment after there was an incident.

I don't care who came back.

It is a public failure of what happened that night at that bar.

Speaking as a social worker, I assess environments every day for risk safety and harm reduction.

This situation reflects a breakdown in basic protective factors.

It is not trauma informed, it was not preventative, and it did not prioritize human safety.

Your one security guard that did not have one any identifiable security wear left my brother in the middle of the street to die after he vaguely tried to break the incident up.

My brother is now living with a severe TBI, and he may never function again.

We have had to get guardianship of my brother, and he may have to live in a long-term care facility.

He now has a trake and a feeding tube.

Thank you, Ms.

Leach.

Uh, your your time has expired.

I appreciate your comments.

Uh we'll first go to committee members.

Uh does it do any committee members have questions for this witness?

Um, I do have a question.

Uh your security is it uh license and bonded.

Well, let's start with let's finish with the neighbor first and then we'll we'll move into more follow-ups.

Any questions for the witness online?

From the committee.

Any questions from the local alder for this witness?

No question.

Does the applicant have any questions?

Questions only for the witness?

No.

No, I do have questions.

Okay.

Go ahead.

Only questions directed to the witness.

Right.

Uh so my question is uh so the contestants uh had to make a statement with uh my security is not uh wasn't doing the proper procedures.

Uh so we're we're we have to we have to this is this is your opportunity to ask questions of the witness.

You'll have a uh another opportunity later to make a further statement.

Right, then my question is right now you can only ask questions of the witness.

That's what I'm gonna do.

I say so besides you know the uniforms and what other things that she observed that my security wasn't doing the proper procedure besides you know ask the patient to leave the premises and then of course this all happened after the bar closed Ms.

Leach, did you hear that question?

Yes, sir.

I as uh bar who hires a security company, your job is to ensure that all patriots for one are no longer lingering at the bar.

Not only did this incident occur with my brother on April 5th, there was another incident on April 6th.

This is the opportunity for the applicant um to ask.

So your security don't do the job.

That's basically what I'm saying.

Okay, so what security cannot cover an entire bar.

All right.

Um anything else related to the question, Ms.

Leach.

No, sir.

Okay.

I appreciate that.

And I'm gonna play with me.

Any other questions for the witness?

Um also according to police report.

Okay.

No other questions?

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ms.

Leach.

I appreciate you coming to testify and advocate on behalf of your brother.

This is in the second aldermatic district.

We just had one.

Alderman Alderman Chambers, welcome.

Thank you.

Um, Mr.

Chair and the many members, thank you for giving me the opportunity to come speak.

Um, the reason why we are here, uh, quite frankly, is because of item number eight.

Um it is it was an unfortunate incident.

Um it did lead to um charges being filed against the assailant um for um the incident with um you know the the uh victim.

Um what I do know speaking from the speaking to the police captain um is that reviewing the footage from the establishment in which um Mr.

and Mrs.

Wang has been fully cooperative, including to the uh security which is bonded and insured.

Um is that um there was an incident where the um the victim and his uh companion um you know it was something that happened unfortunate uh the victim did not like it.

Um there was some scuffling between the two the parties uh security did escort them out.

Um, once the scuffling happened, um they both left the establishment, or one left the establishment and then uh the victim came back to the establishment after bar closed and the video is viral.

You know, it's this on social media and it's very unfortunate.

He did not deserve what happened.

Um this establishment has been well ran for the past three years since it's been open, as you can look on the police report.

Um every year besides this year was a little uptick.

Um there's been one item the past years uh since it's been open.

Um Ms.

Wang and I have um spoke into great length, especially after this incident because we cannot have that incident happen in the second district, and she's agreed with it.

So um there's some parameters that be put in place that you know Ms.

Wang and I um will put in, you know, that has went to heavy discussion with so um what I would recommend today will be an approval with a warning letter Alderman Chambers uh thank you for your comments.

Uh any questions from committee members before we give a final word to the applicant?

Alderman Chambers?

Alderman Jackson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, your plan of plan operation doesn't have security on it, but you have security?

I do.

Would you like to amend your plan of operation to have security?

Yes, sir.

How many?

How many?

And what time are they there all the time?

Yes.

And then how many?

I have on the weekend I have um two securities, and then I have one during the week.

Because during the week it's really slow.

Um if I have events during the week, then I uh my security to two or three.

All right.

Yes.

So uh minimum on security uh to be amended to the application.

And you you agree to do that.

Alderman uh Jackson moves to amend the plan of operation to include a minimum of one security officer at all times.

Any objections to that motion?

Hearing none.

So ordered.

Any other questions for the applicants?

Um a brief closing statement if you will.

If you if you like, give you an opportunity before we head into committee.

Yeah, so uh me and my wife, this is our third year, going to a fourth year.

Uh we never operate bar before.

We all put in the records.

Uh normally during the day, she would stay home with the kids.

We got a nine and seven years old, and I usually at the bar just managing stuff.

And then like I said, we are trying to follow all the rules.

That's laid in front of us.

You can see the records like first year we could call uh people complaining noise, and then yeah, we the next year we comply for getting a license for our car show.

So we follow every step of the way.

And just unfortunate these things happen, and we just feel bad because uh this hurting our community.

But at the same time, after this happened, we close on the three days.

Uh we have a staff meeting.

We have a security meeting with uh local officers that come and patrol our areas.

They they promise they will come and patrol more often and also doing the closing time.

So we do everything aspect, any aspect we can do to improve the safety, and then and also we had to determine the security that was being indicated being uh present at this incidence, and we hired a new securities uh that would definitely require the uniform and badges.

Uh so it's currently we were under the new security uh system.

All right, thank you for that.

We are now in committee.

Are there any motions?

Alderman Jackson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I move approval with a one elect.

Alderman Jackson moves approval with warring order as amended.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objections?

Hearing seeing none, so ordered.

Thank you very much.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Moving on to our next 1025 a.m.

agenda item.

Giovanni Mall, agent for Lush Social Lounge LLC Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises, Food Devo License Renewal Application with change of hours from closing at 10 p.m.

every day to close at 12 a.m.

every day for Lush Social Lounge at 5938 5940 North 76th Street.

Expired January 21st, 2026.

Welcome.

Giovanni Mall present.

Yep.

Please raise your right hand.

We'll sort of.

The telling you if I'm on the defense of penalty suburbio of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true, the whole truth and a film of the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of notice to of today's meeting with that with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Alright, please take your name and address for the record.

My name is Gigiante Elmoore, Azure 5938-40 North 76 Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 432 and 8.

All right, thank you.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Sergeant, are there any?

Is there a police report?

120 23 at 9 30 p.m.

Walkie police conducted a license premise check at the listed address.

Uh investigation revealed the business did not have the proper license to serve alcohol, despite the agent admitted uh they were serving.

Uh the alcohol was confiscated by an agent from the Wisconsin Department of Revenue, and uh the agents was advised they could not open for business until proper license was obtained.

On 8 1624 at 1153 p.m.

Milky police were dispatched to a troubled subject.

This was due to a citizen complaints.

Uh the business was operating after hours.

On arrival officers found the business was closed and employees were cleaning up.

The agent was on scene and stated a few patrons that were still on scene, just uh received order and were leaving.

They also requested to see the light uh the license, however, stated they were at home.

Uh they were advised to uh post them in a manner in which the public can see them.

Officer noted at the time of the report they were unable to locate any licenses for the business.

Uh 824-24, 11 p.m.

Milky police were dispatched to a tavern violation.