Regular meeting on Tuesday, June 9th at 9 05 AM.

I'm Alder Person Joe Castas Samaripa, Chairperson of the Committee.

I am joined in the following order.

Um to my left.

Um we have Alderman Peter Bergelis is here in the room with us as well as Alderman Alex Brouwer.

We'll be on the far left.

Yes, on the far left, Alderman Brouwer.

We will be joined very shortly by Vice Chair, Alderwoman Andrea Pratt, as well as Alderman DeAndre Jackson.

Of course, we're joined by our staff assistant Yadira Melendez.

Good morning.

As well as Fabiola Lopez, our licensed division assistant manager.

Good morning.

And from the city attorney's office, Assistant City Attorney Travis Gresham.

And from Milwaukee Police Department, we have both Sergeant Cornejo and Lieutenant Velasquez.

Good morning.

Um the first item on the agenda is file number 260204, motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses.

And the first application is Chekala.

Wait, let me just say this again.

Ram Moan Rao Chakala.

Okay.

Please come up.

Agent for three I L C Class B tavern License Application for Copa's Fobelli Delhi at 1940 North Firewall.

Please have a seat.

Thank you.

Good morning.

All right.

And if you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

You do, Fabi.

Thank you.

Do you tell me if we're on the defense of penalty subject of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true to hold truth and have you with the truth?

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

Yes, thank you, everyone.

All right, very good.

And uh, sir, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record.

My name is Ram Mohanral Cecilia, the business address 1940, North Farvelow, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53202.

Great.

Will you will you pronounce your name again for me once more?

Uh Ram.

Ram Mohondrao.

But you can call me around, yeah, that's easier.

Okay, thank you.

Pretty big name.

Yeah.

Very good.

Thank you.

Um, okay, Ms.

Lopez.

Are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Um, Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Uh 927 25, Mr.

Singh, thirty percent 33% shareholder was cited at 1900 South 31st Street for the sale of a cigarette to minor on 424 26.

They were convicted and fined 205.

Okay, and that and that's not Mr.

Ram, correct?

No.

It's a shareholder and not dislocation as well.

Yes.

Understood.

Okay.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Uh as far as that information I have.

Um, so during that time, um, Mr.

Singh was partners uh he already sold their location.

He was in the transition of uh uh and the sale to a different purchaser.

So he was focusing on um uh the this far not far location and so that was not uh during his his ownership, so um does the committee have any questions on the police report at this time?

Yes, ma'am sure.

Please, uh Alderman Brouwer.

Ram just wanna um it just since this did come up in the police report.

Just want to get a commitment that you guys, you know, for anybody that you suspect or maybe even don't suspect of being under eighteen um when purchasing tobacco, you guys will are 21, excuse me.

That's right.

That is the move that is to the law now.

Um would you be you'll be carding them, correct?

Most definitely, yes.

Great.

Thank you.

All right.

Very good.

Thank you.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify on this item.

We are in the third Aldermanic District, Alderman Brouwer.

Yeah, thank you so much.

I'll offer some comments here, Madam Chair.

Um we uh held a community meeting a couple weeks ago um for this establishment.

So um Rom and um business partners, you know, purchased uh Capella's full Billy Delhi just a little over a year ago and began operation, and we have received our office, received nothing but positive feedback from the community about how there's more selection, a cleaner facility, the place looks better.

Um, so there's been a lot of appreciation from constituents and neighbors about the operations uh so far.

So what this application um is gonna be doing uh this morning is going to be allowed during their um um when they're serving food uh to be for them to be allowed to also serve um um uh beer and wine and other things um with that as well.

So we held a community meeting.

We noticed the neighbors and held a community meeting.

I think we had uh around a dozen people show up to that community meeting.

Every single person there either had a uh was just you know had a question about the process um and everyone there, no one objected at the community meeting, and everybody's excited and uh appreciative of this business owner taking over and excited for this opportunity.

So I'd like to move approval.

All right.

Alderman Alex Brower has moved approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck, Mr.

Ron.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I got to leave.

Yep, you're gonna go around.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

It's an entertaining day, so I think we'll move on to our next 9 a.m.

agenda item.

J.K.

Stamatas, agent, good morning.

Agent for 2498 Bartlett OG L L C Class B Tavern and Food Dealer licenses application for OG pub and grill at 2498 North Bartlett Street.

North Bartlett Avenue.

Yep.

Very good.

All right.

Well, good morning.

Good morning.

Will you both raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

Is it true to hold truth and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

And um, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

We are thank you.

And then will you each state your name and address for the record?

Jay Stamatis, 2719 South 70 Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Thank you.

Craig Rezepka, 1705 East Bradford Avenue.

Thank you.

Great.

Alright.

Um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold for inspection and hold for occupancy.

Okay.

And um Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Okay, and it's a new application, yes.

Will you tell us a little bit about the business and your experience?

Sure.

Uh I've been uh in the restaurant business for 27 years, uh, mostly in Chicago land, and then I came up here about nine years ago, and I opened the original uh the former concept at the same address uh and operated that with my brother for nine years or eight and a half years.

Uh, and then he decided he wanted to move out of it, and I decided I wanted to keep going with something.

So we developed a uh a lesser or you know, uh more casual concept with the OG Pub and Grill.

Um so I wanted to get back to the neighborhood a little bit and give people what they were kind of asking for for uh a number of years, especially since COVID.

Um and you know, burgers, you know, you know, or burgers, beers, you know, cocktails, um, you know, just trying to again get back to the neighborhood and give them what they're they're looking for in that neighborhood.

So, okay, thank you.

Did you want to add anything?

He nailed it.

All right, very good.

So originally the uh the original and now you're taking it over and renaming it the OG.

OG Bummy Girl, correct.

Okay, very good.

Thank you.

Further questions from committee members for the applicant or the local Alderman Brouwer.

I have no questions uh regarding the police report.

All right.

Um, and no police report, correct, Lieutenant.

Oh, yeah.

All right, I'm sorry, Sergeant.

Okay.

And I don't have any questions for the applicant otherwise.

All right.

And are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Okay, let the record reflect our no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the third Aldermanic District, Alderman Brouwer.

Yeah, thank you so much, Madam Chair.

Um, so Craig's been, you know, operating um for a while and has brought in uh Jay as well to help out.

And um the reputation of this business is frankly stellar.

Um you'll guys will notice there is there's an objection that's in the that's in the file.

We held a community meeting a few weeks ago.

We actually had uh 48 people at the community meeting, which was the largest community meeting I'd ever, not not uh that we've held larger town halls, but the largest community meeting we had for an establishment for a license business.

Yeah, no, there was actually no free food there anyway.

I did donuts.

You did have donuts, but donuts there.

No, no, it wasn't it wasn't the draw free food.

It was the you know, it's a very tight-knit neighborhood over there on uh Bartlett, and so people came out um and every single person there present supported this application um and wanted to see this business licensed.

Um so we're you know we're intending to support today the you know the can some of the concerns and the objection about noise were ameliorated at the at the meeting where the you know the um Craig is gonna put up some signs on the patio and um, so that you know there's and I know their employees are gonna work to make sure there's not a lot of noise coming from the patio as well, which is one of the things that was brought up.

So, you know, with that, um I move approval.

Very good.

Thank you, Alderman Bauer.

Alderman Brower has moved approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Have a good day.

You too.

Thank you.

All right, we will move on now to our 905 a.m.

agenda item.

Darren Cowert, agent for hookah's SSE L L Club Public Entertainment Premises License Application requesting discharge, jukebox, bands, karaoke, three amusement machines, poetry readings, six concerts a year, comedy acts, hookah services, and patrons dancing for hookahs SSE at 9006 West Silver Spring Drive.

All right, good morning.

Morning.

And um, oh yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I was thinking first.

And Alderman Chambers is on here with us virtually.

Um, if you want to, if all of you will raise your right hand, we'll get everyone sworn in.

Do you say if I'm on the Benson Benatisa Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testimony you're about to give?

Is it true, the whole truth and a few but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, um, okay.

And are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And will you each state your name and address for the record?

Uh Darren Calward, uh 2602 North 47th Street, Morgan, Wisconsin 53210.

Thank you.

Casey Gale 5050 North 57 Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53218.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

There is no holds on the pup on the application.

Okay.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 4 2 26 at 7 30 p.m.

Walkie police conducted a licensed premise check at 9006 West Silver Spring Drive.

Officers were aware that the business was operating as a hookah bar, however, did not did not have a valid tobacco license.

The officer noted that the business was advised on prior occasions to obtain proper licenses and observe the business operating after 12 a.m.

and as late as 3 a.m.

on some evenings on 4 8 26.

The business did obtain a tobacco license.

Okay, thank you.

Would you like to speak to the post report?

Uh yes.

Um, we wasn't aware that we needed a tobacco license to operate hookah, and we also uh just found out that we needed an entertainment license now on the operate hookah.

So we was we're actually unaware, and uh 3 a.m., I don't know about that.

Um I'm not aware of that.

Okay.

Madam Chair, for clarification.

Uh please uh attorney Gresham.

Yeah, the committee can't uh authorize indoor smoking.

Um that's provided for in state law.

It's uh a grandfather clause or a um uh I guess existing business clause that's inside of the indoor smoking ban.

So permission for indoor smoking um of nicotine or tobacco um is not provided by state law and cannot be provided by this committee.

So this committee does not have the right to provide that license or permit.

What permits we can provide are the hookah non the non tobacco hookah service entertainment permit.

So again, this committee cannot provide indoor smoking for tobacco or nicotine.

It can only provide non tobacco, non-nicotine, uh hookah product.

Um again, smoking inside.

Okay.

Um I'm sorry to interrupt.

Um I'm I'm intending on holding this.

I just wanted to please the record, the police report to be read in.

Um, you know, the comment of being open to 3 a.m.

at certain times kind of concerns me and given the history of this location.

I just want to have a little bit more conversation with the applicant.

Um we have received some complaints, so I don't want to, you know, hold it.

I don't want to drag this on any longer.

Um I do attend on holding this to have further discussion and save some time for the committee.

Okay, thank you.

Um for letting us know right away, Alderman.

Um, sounds like the elder would like to communicate you with you further, so if you'll reach out to his office.

Uh, but with that, uh, oh go ahead.

Apologies.

I just wanted to add on to what attorney Gresham said, and to make it clear to the applicant that as the attorney said, the even with the cigarette and tobacco license, it does not allow for smoking indoors.

That license only allows for the sale of product, and they would have to smoke it outdoors.

Correct.

Okay.

That's it.

So they could.

I'm sorry.

I I just wanted to note they could apply for the public entertainment premise uh permit and check off hookah if it's non-tobacco, correct?

And that's what they have.

Okay.

All right.

Alderman Chambers.

And Ms.

Lopez, with this whole they cannot operate, correct?

Until they issue they can operate at the hookah bar until the issue of the public entertainment, correct?

Correct.

Thank you.

All right.

So with that, we're gonna hold it to allow for more dialogue with the Alder um and his office.

Um Vice Chair Pratt moves to hold this item to the call, the chair.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Alright.

If you'll just be in contact with Alderman Chambers' office.

Okay.

Okay.

So what do we just go see the orderman?

Yeah.

If you can reach out to him, sounds like he's wants to have further discussion.

Okay with you and perhaps have you reach out to the neighbors, the constituents.

Okay, I'll be in contact with you early.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

Good luck to you.

Thanks.

Okay.

We're gonna move on now to our 9 10 AM agenda item.

Jose Luis Ibara Flores, agent for um Gamaleon Bar Services, LLC, please come up.

Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises Licenses application requesting jupax for is it Camaleon?

Camaleon.

Camalion Bar at 2900 South 13th Street.

Alright, good morning.

Good morning.

Okay, my English is not perfect.

Okay.

El bayudarte.

Uh-huh.

Okay, so he's going to interpret for our applicant.

That's just fine.

That's good.

If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in along with Alderwoman um Dmitrievich, who I see here virtually with us.

Hold the microphone, please.

It moves.

Okay.

Do you saw me affirm on the independent benefits of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is a true the whole truth and a film with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

Was that good?

Do you want him to translate that for you?

Are you comfortable?

Okay.

Alright.

And then um, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

See.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

And then will you both say your name and address for the record?

My name is José Luis Ibarra Flores.

290 Sur 13.

Calle 13.

Uh 5315.

Okay.

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Okay.

That would be the address of the bar.

Yes.

Will you say it in English for us?

Uh Jose Luis Ibarra Flores, uh 2900 South 13th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53215.

Thank you.

And then will you also state your name and address for the record?

Um Juan Salceda.

Uh address, uh 8721 West Douglas Avenue.

Milwaukee, Wisconsin 5325.

Thank you.

Yeah.

All right.

Uh Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

It holds for occupancy.

Okay.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Okay.

And it's a new license, yes?

Yes.

Okay.

Will you tell us a little bit about your experience and plan for the business?

The expedience is a plan.

Yeah, my plan is uh open a bar.

It's a friendly family uh tranquilo, tranquilo.

Yeah, no trouble.

No, no, no trouble.

You go drinking, maybe the friends, uh families, uh, you know, your husband, your wife coming in drinking.

I'm making very good drinks.

I have 25 years of bartender experience.

And I think when it's a good good bar for, you know, you finished your job and oh let's go.

Maybe talking with your friends.

He's come for taking one drink.

Uh little light music, no loud for I don't like loud music, you know.

Light music and you know you pass very, very good uh a little fun day.

Okay, thank you.

Questions from committee members for the applicant at this time?

Questions from Alderwoman Dmitrievich, the local Alder?

Um well I have an update when when I'm allowed to speak.

Yeah, do you want me to ask for next?

Carrollman.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I really don't want to use more time, and I would like to um apologize.

Um I was not able to connect with Mr.

Ibarra, and we have to go, we we played phone tag, we have to go over the details.

It's a brand new business.

Um we're gonna probably scale work with them to scale back the pep.

Um, and so I'm so sorry, but I would like to request a hold.

Okay, and just because this is the second Alder now this morning.

If you guys can let us know, you could even have let us know before committee, but I totally understand.

The Alder would like to meet with you.

Yeah, I did inviting.

Sorry, I did this morning early, but it was just this morning, so I'm sorry about that.

All right, thank you, Alderwoman.

Yes, just a reminder for our colleagues.

Um, but understood, she would like to have some more discussion um and look over your application a little bit more closely.

Um may I speak just uh just one second.

Um, uh senor Ibarra Les quiero pedir perdon tenemos que hablar por telefono y voy uh vamos a agendar soy.

A S B.

Thank you.

Okay, she just wants to let her know, let them know that she's bilingual, so okay.

Well, the Alder Woman wanted to apologize and have them call.

I'm just okay.

Well, Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objection, so ordered.

All right.

So you'll be in contact and then hopefully get it rescheduled.

Okay.

Yes.

Dmitrievich.

Okay.

Gracias.

Okay.

Okay.

Gracias at the time.

Yes, suerte.

All right.

We're gonna move on now to our 915 a.m.

agenda item.

Julio C Maldonado, agent for revival, Bayview L L C Brown and Gibbs Sports Bar, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer Licenses, Renewal Application for Brown and Gibbs Sports Bar at 182 East Lincoln Avenue.

Is Julio C.

Maldonado present?

Julio C.

Maldonado.

All right, I believe is this.

Second non-appearance.

This is the second time non-appearance, Alderwoman Dmitrievich.

Do you it would be appropriate to not deny based on that, but wanted to give you the floor?

It's appropriate to not deny, you said.

No, it's second time non-appearance.

It is appropriate to deny, but wanted to l get let you weigh in.

Yes, I think we've used too much of um the community's time and your time on this.

There is a substantial amount of money due um for violation.

So if if it's within our um purview, um and non-appearance, non-communication, I think denials appropriate.

All right.

Move to deny.

Alderman Alex Brower moves for denial based on um the second time.

It'll be non-renewal since it's a renewal.

Non-renew, not denied.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yes, it is not a mention.

Yep, move to non-renew.

Correct.

Not a new application, so it would be non-renewal.

Um, all right.

Um Alex Brower, you you were you revised your.

Yep, I move I moved to uh non-renew based on um let's see here.

Yeah, second non-appearance, thank you.

And that's sufficient?

Yes, okay.

Thank you, Alderman Brower.

Alderman Brower moves to non-renew based on um second time non-appearance.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered.

All right.

So we'll move on now to our 9:20 A um AM agenda item.

Simranjit S.

Benipal, agent for fast fuel convenience, LLC, extended hours establishments, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures licenses, renewal application for sicko and Titania at 3551 North Titonia Avenue.

Good morning.

Good morning.

And I see Alderwoman.

Oh, yes, I did see Elder Woman McCoggs, but she's coming right back in virtually.

So we will just one second.

I think she might have just dropped off momentarily.

And just while we're waiting, I'm so Alderman Brigales.

I remember you asked, but on that last application, but then we held it, so I didn't want to further.

But I apologize.

Well, we will uh return to that item next cycle, perhaps.

Correct.

And you'll be first in the queue.

Wonderful.

I he was gonna ask a question on the item that Alderwoman Dmitrievich had to hold wanted to hold.

Oh, there's a kind of recently.

Oh, I know.

All right, hmm.

Just wanted to give Alderman Cogs a moment.

Can we hold it moves around her?

Is she is this the only item?

Wait a minute.

I'm not a player.

But that's her too.

Oh, move into the ninth.

All right, too bad.

Yeah, plus we need Alder Woman Taylor.

All right, good morning, Alderwoman Cogs.

Good morning.

And we have the applicant here at the table, Mr.

Bennypal.

Will the two of you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

The Sony from an independent penalty suburbia of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we were about to give.

Is it true, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Elder Woman Cogs.

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Bennypal, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And will you state your name and address for the record?

Samanjit Singh Banipal, 3551 North Titonia Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53206.

Thank you.

All right, Ms.

Lopez.

Are there any holds?

No holds.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 7 21 25 at 1 35 a.m.

Walking police were dispatched to a subject with weapon.

The business called regarding the subject who was locked in the store after attempting to steal ice cream.

The subject pulled out a firearm and fired one round at the wall above the register, at which time the cashier unlocked the door and the subject ran out.

One casing was located and video surveillance depicts the incident as it was relayed by the employee.

On 8 18 25 at 11 a.m.

police were dispatched to a subject with weapon.

The business called regarding the subject who frequently steals and made threats to come back and shoot the employee who locked them in the store to tell them they were no longer welcome.

The employee stated the subject eventually left, but was seen pointing a firearm at them from their vehicle.

The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incident on 11-1225 at 2 a.m.

to 2 0 2 a.m.

Monkey police were dispatched to a shot spotter.

On arrival, the business already had video surveillance ready for officers.

The video depict subjects at the end of the lap firing three to four rounds towards Titonia, then flee the scene.

Investigation revealed the driver hit the business fence causing damage, then fled the scene.

The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incident.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report, sir?

Yes, ma'am.

The very first incident was a teenager.

He was trying to steal a basket of ice cream.

The cashier tried to stop him and lock locked the door.

In the meantime, he pulled out a firearm.

He unlocked the door while he was leaving at the door.

He fired a shot towards the ceiling.

And then we called the police.

And the second incident was a panhandler.

He was stealing shoplifting multiple times.

And whenever the cashier tried to talk to him, he disappears.

One day I was over there.

He came inside, nobody inside the store.

I tr uh told the cashier to lock the door so that I can talk to him if he has any kind of like family needs any problems so that we can help him and he stops.

He was quiet, but it looks to me it was he was habitual.

We unlock the door, he's gone.

I tried to leave, he showed me a gun from the other side of the street.

Then we called the police and after that day we have never seen him.

The third incident, my address was used, and the fourth one was a traffic-related somebody ran into my friends.

And after that, I contacted CPU, Officer Nelson and Romo.

They guided me to double the employees.

We double the employees in each shift.

Now there are two employees.

So if there's a problem, one employee can handle the customers, the second one called the police.

And then we replaced the signage outside with the no loitering.

With the new ones, like like the existing signs were old.

Fifteen minutes customer parking and no loud music.

And the all the outside cameras were changed with the high resolution ones.

So in case even if it's night time, they have a better picture quality for the police.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Questions from committee members on the police report?

Questions from Alderwoman Cogs on the police report?

No questions.

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to speak to this item today?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the sixth Aldermanic district.

Alder Woman Cogs.

Um I did get an opportunity to speak with the applicant, or he explained uh to me the police report and what he's done to help improve things for the future as he has shared with you all here today.

And I'm satisfied that with no neighbors um here to complain and with the changes that um he has had moving he has made moving forward.

Um I support the renewal uh with a warning letter.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, Alderman.

Move a renewal.

Uh Peter Bergellis moves for renewal and the hearing.

I think the Alderman McCoggs requested a warning letter.

So I'll move renewal with a warning letter.

I don't think she did.

Was that right, Alderman?

I heard I heard a warning.

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Apologies.

Yes, good catch, Aldermanis.

Um, Alderman Bergelis moves for renewal with a warning letter.

Any discussion to that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you, Mr.

Benny Palm.

Thank you, man.

Thank you.

All right, we're gonna move on now to our 9 25 a.m.

agenda item.

Shane K.

Williams, agent for Aldi Inc.

Wisconsin, food dealer license renewal application for Aldi number 19 at 225 East Capitol Drive.

Is Shane K.

Williams present.

Shane K.

Williams.

All right.

Have we heard from the applicant?

Um licensed division?

Alderman Cox, have you heard from the applicant?

No, not that I'm aware of.

And this is the first non-appearance, second.

Oh uh.

Madam Chair.

Yeah, go ahead, Alderman.

Ordinarily with a second um non-appearance.

I will um ask that you all move denial.

Given that this is like a full service grocery store that a lot of people in a district rely on.

I would just ask that you hold it and I'll come in to my office making a personal effort to reach out as well as I will help license and words and so that they um do respond.

Very good.

Thank you, Alderwoman Cox.

Um, Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to hold this item to the call of the chair, and hearing no objection, so ordered.

Okay, well, we'll hold it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We're moving on now into the ninth uh Aldermanic District.

Yep, I see Alderwoman Taylor here with us virtually.

On our 9 30 a.m.

agenda item.

We have Robert Garaballo, agent for Sundance Inc.

extended hours, establishments and Food dealer licenses renewal application with change of hours from 8 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

every day to 9 a.m.

to 2 a.m.

Sunday through Wednesday, and 9 a.m.

to 4 a.m.

Thursday through Saturday for Taco Bell at I'm sorry, Taco Bell number 30420 at 8030 West Brown Deer Road.

Is Robert I don't know if it's Garabayo or Carabio?

Robert Carabayo?

Alright.

License division.

Have we heard from the applicant?

No, Madam Chair.

All right.

Um Alderwoman Taylor, have you heard from the applicant?

No.

I reached out and called, but I I didn't get an answer and I haven't gotten a call back.

Okay.

And I know you did mention to me you had intended to hold this so you could have further discussion with them either way, correct?

Yes.

All right.

Move to hold.

Well then Alderman Peter Burgelis moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

Was that the first time non-appearance, by the way, license of it?

Yes.

Okay.

Alright, very good.

So that one is held.

Then we get the newest holder uh sworn in.

Yes, um, very good.

Well, I'll bring in the next, can we just bring up the next applicant and get it?

Okay.

Then we'll move on to our 9 35 a.m.

agenda item.

Kenneth D.

Smith, agent for KMP Town LLC.

Recycling salvaging or towing premises and secondhand motor vehicle dealer licenses renewal application for KMP Towing LLC at 7928 West Clinton Avenue.

Is Kenneth D.

Smith present present?

Yes.

Good morning.

All right.

If you'll raise your right hand along with Alderwoman Taylor, we'll get you both sworn in at once.

I need to.

And oh, and uh Nicole Anderson with our toll at you also um unmute and raise your right hand and we'll get all three of you sworn in at once.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Do you sell me if you're on the depends on the Disa Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testament we're about to give is it through the whole truth and if you want the truth?

Yes.

Thank you all.

Alright, Mr.

Smith, are you in receipt of notice of today's hearing with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

Kenneth D.

Smith.

You said my address?

Yes.

7928 West Clinton Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5323.

Thank you.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Uh 6825 at 256 a.m.

And also was dispatched to a motor vehicle accident.

An unknown actor demanded the vehicle back, which was towed and stored at the business.

A second vehicle rammed the gate causing damage.

The unknown actor entered the vehicle and on the on the lot and drove off.

All right.

Would you like to speak to the police report, Mr.

Smith?

Um, no, because it's it's like kind of explained.

They really just they got their car code from private property from the uh club down the street.

Uh the the females, they basically followed me.

And they jumped a gate.

And then the um, yeah.

They got in the car, ran through the gate, and that was it.

I took pictures of a license place and stuff like that.

Gave it to the officers, and that was it.

That's I never seen them again, never heard from it again, or nothing, so okay, thank you.

Questions from committee members on the police report?

Questions from Alderwoman Taylor on the police report?

No questions.

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?

Of course, I see Nicole Anderson from our tollat.

Are you here to offer testimony today, Nicole?

Okay, yes.

Uh KMP currently owes the city.

Oh, can you start?

I'm sorry, can you first start by introducing yourself?

Oh yes, my apologies.

Uh Nicole Anderson, toll at manager.

Okay.

Uh, the total balance in collections as of this morning is one thousand two hundred thirteen dollars and seventy two cents.

Okay.

And is that you said that's in collections or it's not in collections as of yet?

Collections.

It's in collections.

All right.

Um, and then is DPW here in objection or just to for information to let us know this we object as far as the amount being in collections otherwise okay thank you all right committee members any questions for Ms.

Anderson Alderwoman Taylor any questions for Ms.

Anderson no questions and Mr.

Smith any questions for Ms.

Anderson um no because I've just received I bought that that that balance I just received that in the mail yesterday so they can get paid this morning actually.

Okay yes we would appreciate that as it as it is already in collections Mr.

Smith so prompt payment would be greatly appreciated.

Alderman Bergellis um Mr Smith do you do you receive mail from the toll lot on a regular basis?

Do you know what your current balance is no I don't even know the current balance I just received one of them yesterday with the one she's talking about no I just see one yesterday was one was due one is due in July sometime.

So you so you do receive your regular invoices from the city?

On time I receive is when is I guess they send it with a pink slip so other than that so you only open some of your mail of all my okay um madam uh um Ms.

Anderson uh can you just refresh the committee with the policy on how to companies get billed from the city how often do we how often do we send an invoice where where is the invoice sent to uh the invoices are sent via email um and then when does the city send mail uh so on just the moment please while you're looking that up Mr.

Smith are you aware that the city is sending you email invoices I haven't looked I haven't received no email I got my email on files so I'm sorry I didn't I it's real hard to hear you you're pretty quiet you said you don't check your email I check my email but I haven't seen that and I can check it again but I haven't seen no email.

Well this is once a month you get an invoice from the city are you are you aware of the city sending you email invoices no I just get an invoice from inside um the the letter basically in the mail like I see you're not aware of ever getting an invoice from the city by email uh uh okay Ms.

Anderson did you find an answer yet yeah so monthly there's a reconcilation period um they have time to show the proof of any credits vehicles that have been scrapped or sold um the amount of vehicles that we have on record is sent to them again reconciliation if 90 days to show if the vehicles are scrapped or sold and then um after 90 days if there's no payment it's sent to collections all right so well we just heard from Mr.

Smith that he's unaware of any emails invoices being sent from the city to his email um how does the city deal with that because if we're if we're this this applicant's license is under scrutiny right now and if we're going to penalize him or uh renew or non-renew his license based on him not getting and not paying what's due the city he's now claiming that he has not received an invoice by email on a regular cadence and he only receives the pink slip mailed in uh past due invoices.

I would have to refer back to the um the accounting team that handles this um I can get back to you on this.

To my understanding, he's received invoices.

I don't know if there's been a response on his end.

Are city invoices sent by email with a read receipt?

That I don't know.

Um, I'd have to get back to you on that as well.

But we can start that benefit of it isn't are there any towing company towing uh vendors at with the city that don't have a valid email address?

Do we uh send do we mail monthly statements to anyone?

Um I believe the invoices once we refer it downtown, not to collections but downtown, it is then mailed.

But again, I could be incorrect.

So I'd have to confirm.

Okay, thank you, madam chair.

Um, thank you.

So are are we able to hold the license if we vote on this today and it goes to full council?

Can we ask Mr.

Smith if he can pay the balance off in full before we release before we hand over the license?

Ms.

Lopez.

Yeah, I mean, if it's held and he can make payments and then get it considered before council.

Okay, madam chair.

Alderman Bergellis.

I'm just concerned that you know this this operator says he never received a monthly invoice.

He only gets the the late thing slip past due uh balances that are sent to collection.

If that's the case, I think we need to make sure we have a better process in place to ensure we have some sort of verification that emailed invoices are received.

If this guy's never paid a regular monthly invoice and it goes to collection every time, there's something broken in the process.

So I I'm very hesitant to um at this point support a hold or anything other than a non-renewal because the city hasn't been able to show that we've attempted to collect a debt, or we've even been able to basically to mail uh or provide a monthly invoice.

The the applicant disputes that the city hasn't been able to show it.

So I um so I would not be in support of a hold of any kind because we have no evidence that the the um applicant has failed to timely pay anything.

But I hear what you're saying, Alderman Bergelis, and I did write a note here that I want to ask the tollat what their payment protocols are.

Ms.

Anderson clearly wasn't didn't have the information for your copious questions around how we um how we uh ask for payment and bill.

And so I think it would be good to give her some time or somebody from the department to get us that information.

I don't know that we need to hold it against this particular applicant because this we don't know for certain the payment protocols, and it's and I I hear you wanted that information.

I want it too.

I wrote a note for myself to get that, but let's well, let's first see if there's any neighbors.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

K and P Towing.

All right, we did hear from Nicole Anderson of our DPW tollat, um, but no other neighbors are present.

Um, I think I want to give it over to our local Alder and hear from her Alderwoman Taylor.

Yes, um, so we've visited with this tow lat owner a couple of times.

Um it was very clear about the operation, um, and he's respectful of residents when they do come over, or customers when they do come to pick up their vehicles.

Um, so we haven't had any um complaints um outside of the one that you guys just read with the police department, but so we support him staying in business in the district at this time.

Okay.

And any discussion with the applicant, Alderwoman, around the outstanding balance.

No, we did not have any discussion, uh so that was not uh information that we had prior to now.

Okay, all right.

Uh Alderman Bergelis, you look like your brimming, are we in committee?

Um I do have I do think that I want to note um in particular for the local elder, I think that there's an opportunity here.

He did offer to take care of this balance, and I would like to take him up on that offer um and ensure that he'll take care of this balance by um by the council day.

Yes, I I agree.

Um I would like for him to be in good standing uh any business in district nine.

We would like to make sure um I think that's all part of being an asset to just um keep um keep your affairs in order.

Uh and uh as you're providing this great service, uh, but however I do agree with uh Alderman Burgelis that we as a city need to make sure that we have a a good um process as well so that um uh businesses are aware ahead of time uh that they have this debt that they need to pay very good thank you alder woman all right well with that yes I think we are now on committee Alderman Bergellis for renewal all right moves for renewal any discussion on that motion um I will again um take you up on your offer Mr.

Smith that you will take care of that well frankly you said you would take care of that outstanding balance tomorrow correct yes ma'am oh alderman Burgellis just whispered in my ear he said you said today yeah did you this morning oh this morning all right so you're gonna go ahead and take care of that today can I can I get the balance on let me get my pain this minute this minute two hours wait a minute we didn't hear Mr.

Smith go ahead Mr.

Smith I'm just trying to get my pay and we get the balance what was that I'm just trying to get my payment but I can get the balance.

Oh yes I have uh or maybe we should give it to Ms.

Anderson do you want to let him know his balance again?

Sure the total in collections is one thousand two hundred and thirteen dollars and seventy two cents.

All right and you know where to take care of that Mr.

Smith yes perfect.

Well with that you have earned the support of Alderman Peter Bergelis he moves for renewal any objection any further discussion hearing none so ordered thank you Mr.

Smith thank you Alderwoman thank you we will move on now to our 945 a.m agenda item percy d Puniwala agent for Milwaukee 45 hospitality LLC fooder license application for Norwood in and suites at 5442 North Lovers Lane is Percy D.

Puniwala present please come up yes and I see Alderman Westmoreland is with us virtually all right good morning.

If everyone will raise their right hand we'll get everybody sworn in at once as well as Alderman Westmoreland.

You want to unmute Alderman this morning we'll get we'll get you sworn in okay do you see a firmly defense of the Disa Burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and a firm with the truth thank you.

Okay thank you all right um and Mr Puniwala are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied yes sir okay thank you and will you both state your name and address for the record?

Sure.

My name is Pussy Puniola I live in 10155 Visual Code Woodbury Minnesota 55129.

Thank you.

My name's Carlin Kennedy I live at 1133 West Silver Springs Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Thank you.

All right Ms.

Lopez are there any holds there's a hold for inspection and hold for occupancy.

Thank you.

And Sergeant Cornejo is there a police report there are no police reports.

Okay I see it as a new application would you like to tell us a little bit about your experience and plan here.

Sure, so we had received a notice uh regarding uh so what had happened was we uh the hotel never had a food license when we purchased the place we never had a food license early before that uh for a couple years and uh we are serving big force which is individually wrapped and uh cereals and milk and juice and coffee for the uh which is all complimentary for the guest.

So we were told this December that we need a license for uh serving milk over there, and uh so we were given a citation in January for that, and then we applied for the license, and we were denied the license saying the there was a lot of litter outside since then.

We have done our best to satisfy all the concerns raised by the city.

So we have extra dumping process now, and then we have been cleaning up the place.

And I also explained to them that I am personally regularly there now before I was not coming regularly in Milwaukee, and we also put up a fence on all four sides now because a lot our place is surrounded by another eight restaurants and a mall, and it is the backside of all those places, so a lot of it later is flying from there.

But we do clean it up twice a day now, before we are doing it once a day, and we have installed fences uh and new landscaping to make sure that it uh nothing from across the street gets into our property, and we have made some other improvements related to the buildings like painting and all that things.

Um, okay, thank you.

Questions from the committee members at this time for the applicant.

Um questions from Alderman Westmoreland.

Oh, if we might uh MPD can clarify there.

There is a citation that was issued, but it was in the business name, I believe.

Um there was a citation issued, it was issued in the business name, so it didn't it wasn't reflected on um the report.

So there's a lack of report in your file um and MPD's file as well, but there was a citation.

Okay.

Did you we want to give it back to MPD?

Go ahead.

I uh because he made the comment that he received the citation.

I did double check, uh it does say that the balance is paid in full.

So and again the citation was for food dealer's license required and it was issued on one fourteen of 2026.

Got it, thank you.

All right.

Anything from committee or Alderman Westmoreland right now.

I'll wait.

Okay.

Um are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

No, not at this time.

Okay.

All right.

Um let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the fifth Aldermanic district.

Alderman Westmoreland.

Thank you.

Um the biggest concern with this property is is it has not been maintained over many years.

Um and that is the inside of the property.

That's the outside of the property.

Um landscaping.

Uh there's a fence that was collapsing.

There was a down tree.

Um there was broken windows, there were broken doors.

Uh there's a shed in the back of the place that's uh falling apart.

There's tires dumps, there's um collapsing uh retaining walls.

So I know the applicant mentioned litter.

This is not uh just about litter, this is about the overall appearance and lack of maintenance to the property.

And it's been a growing frustration of mine when you have property owners that own property, not just in my district but throughout the city of Milwaukee.

Um and they're elsewhere, as the applicant just mentioned, he has not been in Milwaukee.

Um, which is frustrating because you know I'm the one who filled the complaints.

I'm the one who, you know, I drive through the district, I report these issues.

I have neighboring businesses that report these issues.

So what it appears to me is this is not really a hotel.

Of course, you know, people can come through and rent a hotel room, but it appears that people are living here.

It's uh it's a apartment building.

Um there's lots of uh reported prostitution, lots of reported drug dealing.

Um lot of vehicles that are broken down on flat tires, broken windows.

Um so that's a concern.

Um another concern was uh I've got reports that you know they were serving food without a valid license.

Um so health department they go in.

They did uh observe that and they did issue the citation, which was just mentioned, and that has been paid in full.

So um what I'm recommending is that we hold this um pending health going back in there and considering what the outside looks like, making sure it's clean and safe on the inside uh to serve that food.

Thank you.

All right.

So I'm hearing you would like to hold this to continue to work with them further.

Alderman Westmoreland?

Yes.

Okay, Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to hold this item to the call the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

Please be in contact with Alderman Westmoreland's office.

He did ask, um, to continue to do further work at this time and communicate with you more.

Okay, no problem.

Would I respond to something?

I I mean we're not gonna it just doesn't I understand it'd be best to reach out to the Alderman's office because he's asked to hold this item.

Okay.

All right.

Um, well, good luck to you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

So Alderman Pratt moves to hold that item.

Do we take that to a vote?

Any objection to that motion?

Hearing none so ordered.

Okay, so that one's held.

We'll move on to the next um item our on our 950 AM agenda.

We have Yaurea Y.

Alexander, agent for Alexander Bullock Investments L L Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises and Fooder Licenses application requesting five amusement machines, one pool table, and hookah services for suite 76 at 7602 West Lisbon Avenue.

Is Yaurea Y Alexander present?

Please have a seat.

All right, good morning.

Good morning.

If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you saw me affirm on the defense and penalty subverger of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give is a true the whole truth and if you want the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Alright, thank you.

Um, okay.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, thank you.

And will you both say your name and address for the record?

My name is Katherine Alexander.

I live at 3257 North 53rd.

Thank you.

Urea Alexander, I also stay at 3257 or 53rd.

Thank you.

All right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold for occupancy.

Okay.

And Sergeant Cornejo is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Okay.

And I see that it is a new application.

Yes.

Will you tell us a little bit about your experience and plan for the business?

Um our vision in the neighborhood puts the southern soul food uh kitchen.

Food is our foundation of the building.

And um we remember the corner pub long time ago, but uh and I want this to see this uh come back into the community to serve our people.

Um buying food.

Nice.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Did you want to add anything?

Um, yeah, it was um pretty much that's that's I was going to say as well.

Um we we are just uh family-based.

Um we have a fairly large family ourselves, and we would like to see the community get back together, you know, with families and be able to eat good food and have good entertainment and just have a good time.

We don't see that too much anymore here.

Um, to where it's family inviting and you know, where the food is good and you could just relax and have a good atmosphere, you know, and have good food.

Thank you.

All right, very good.

Uh, questions from committee members for the applicant.

Questions from Alderman Westmoreland for the applicants?

No.

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the fifth Aldermanic district.

Alderman Westmoreland.

Thank you.

Um with all due respect, the two ladies that are in front of you.

I don't I don't know who they are.

Um I've uh this we we we noticed that you know there was work being done in the building.

Neighbors are reaching out and we had no information to give them.

Uh we tried reaching out to the applicants multiple times.

Uh they did send a very um not detailed plan of operation.

I requested to meet with them multiple times.

I even had the license division relay the information that they should reach out to me.

This is dating back to March or February, so you know I've attempted, but unfortunately I have not had a chance to sit down with the applicant.

Um I have not had an opportunity to learn what they're trying to do, what their vision is, nor have I had an opportunity to involve the the neighboring businesses or residents.

So with that being said, I'm requesting that this be held for a later uh date.

Thank you.

All right, Alderman.

Uh so just so you so he wants to talk with you further and is requesting to hold it.

So you'll have to be in contact with Alderman Westmoreland's office.

Um, but we have to our defense, we have uh reached out to Alder um his assistant Todd.

Um Todd told us that well he when he c when I contacted him and scheduled up or asked to have a sit down with the alderman.

Um he couldn't give me a date.

So when he did uh return my well, he returned by email and he told me that um he actually sent me a plan of operation to fill out.

So I filled that out, I sent it back, and then once I got the response back, um it was saying basically that um he didn't support it at this time.

Um, however, um I have been in contact with Todd and also and uh I guess she's the new lady there, uh Annabella to try to schedule an appointment to sit down with him, and I have not been able to do that as well.

All right, but uh just for the committee.

Uh the applicant reached out last week to meet me for uh an appointment or for this uh application before you today.

Thank you.

All right, so the alder is requesting a hold.

I I it sounds like he will prioritize making sure to get something scheduled because he wants to talk with you more.

Um we are we're gonna move to hold this at this time.

Please reach out to him right away.

Um, Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves to hold hold this item to the call of the chair.

Any discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Just be in contact with Alderman Westmoreland's office again.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

All right, we're gonna move on now to our 955 a.m.

agenda item.

Um, I do have a note for the from the elder on this one too that we're going to hold this item.

Um, but on our 95 a.m.

agenda, we have Eric Broxton, agent for Select Tire Sales Inc.

Recycling, salvaging or towing premises license application requesting dealing, storing and or transporting transporting waste tires for select tire sales at 4000 West Lisbon Avenue.

Is Eric Broxton present?

All right, and that could be because he has the message from the Alder.

Uh Alderman Stamper, should we get him sworn in before?

Can we get you sworn in first, Alderman Stamper?

Yes.

If you'll raise your right hand.

Absolutely.

Do you sound here from an independent penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the test you are about to give?

Is it true the whole truth?

And if you want the truth, I do.

Thank you.

Thank you, Alderman Stamper.

It sounds like were you in contact with the applicant then?

Yeah, we met last week and then I spoke with them this morning.

We have some more due diligence to do, particularly a community meeting, so I like to hold.

He's in agreement.

Okay.

Very good.

Um thank you, Alderman Stamper, for letting us know.

Alderman Alex Brower moves to hold this item to the call of the chair, and hearing no objection, so ordered.

Thanks, Alderman.

Thank you.

All right.

We'll move on now to our 10 a.m.

agenda item.

Wesley G.

Shaver, agent for FW Festival MKE L L Class B Tavern License Application for Freshwater Food and Wine Festival at 200 North Harbor Avenue.

Is West Shaver present?

West Shaver.

All right.

Is this the first time?

We move to temporarily hold.

Meaning they're coming in today yet?

Or do you mean just to move to hold?

I don't know yet.

This is the first time non-appearance.

It is.

Is it all?

Alderman Bergellis moves to hold this item.

He was in the hallway.

Maybe they're chatting.

Yeah.

So Alderman Bergells moves to hold this item to the call of the chair.

Certainly we can take it up again immediately if they walk in.

But hearing no objection to his motion to hold, so ordered.

We'll move on to our 1005 a.m.

agenda item.

Christopher J.

Anton, agent for first MKO LLC, Class B Tavern Food Dealer, and Hotel Multal Licenses application for Cambria Hotel Milwaukee Downtown at 503 North Planckington Avenue.

Is Christopher J.

Anton present?

Christopher J.

Anton.

Alright.

Have we heard from this applicant?

Oh yeah.

Um, wait, license division.

Have you heard from this?

Uh no, madam chair.

Alderman Bauman, have you heard from Christopher J.

Anton?

No, I have it, but I have no objection here.

They've shown up.

All right, well, let's see if they walk in in a little bit.

For now, Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

We're moving on to our 10 10 a.m.

agenda item.

Adrian D.

Reese, agent for Lux Poor Studio LLC, Class C wine and Public Entertainment Premises licenses application, requesting instrumental musicians and candle bar for Lux Poor Studio at 765 North Jackson Street.

Please have a seat.

Good morning.

All right.

If you and Alderman Bauman wanna raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Raise your hand.

The assembly affirming the defense of penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is a true the whole truth and affirm with the truth.

Yes, thank you.

I do.

Thank you.

All right.

And Ms.

Reese, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And will you state your name and address for the record?

Adrian D.

Reese, 3765, North 51st Boulevard, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53216.

Thank you.

All right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold for occupancy.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo.

Is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Okay.

It's a new app a new application.

Tell us a little bit about your experience and your plan.

Um so I currently have a art studio and event space, and we do candle making there.

And I wanted to expand and just have a space for just candle making where people can come in and make their own candles.

It's one of our most popular um crafts at my current location, and but we do multiple things, and I wanted a space that just focuses on candles with the ability for people to pick sense related to how they want to feel.

So whether it's in power, whether it's love, whether it's um focus, they can make sense in candles that can help them feel better, focus, or whatever they are needing.

Um, yeah.

Great.

And then they can enjoy a glass of wine while they're making the glass of wine while they're making their candidates.

All right, yes.

Any questions for the applicant from committee members?

Any questions from Alderman Bauman for the applicant?

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the fourth Aldermanic District.

Alderman Bauman.

Move approval.

All right.

Alderman Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves for approval.

Any discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Alright, it passed.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

On the common council.

Madam Chair, I move to reconsider 10 a.m.

Okay, you're all set.

Hold on.

All right.

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves to reconsider our 10 a.m.

agenda item.

Wesley G.

Shaver, agent for FW Festival MKE LLC Class B Tavern License Application for Freshwater Food and Wine Festival at 200 North Harbor Drive.

Alright, and we see Wes Shavers here with us virtually today.

Good morning, Mr.

Shaver.

Good morning.

Hi there.

If you raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

The Sonya from the defense of the Disa Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testament we're about to give is it true to Hodge and a film with the truth?

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

And uh Mr.

Shaver, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Uh no, I I waive notice.

He waves notice.

That's fine.

Is that sufficient?

Okay.

Very good.

He waves notice, thank you.

Um, and then will you please state your name and address for the record?

Sure.

Uh Wesley uh G.

Shaver, um, addresses 301 West Wisconsin, number 416, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53203.

Thank you.

Manager, I just want to clarify.

Uh, did licensing send something to an address that was not on file or notice wasn't the mailing address we had on file was three 301 West Wisconsin Unit 416, which is and then we sent one to the home address that we have for West, which is 2555 West Wending Drive in Glendale.

And and I'll just add that uh Mr.

Shaver did just get done facilitating the best Pride Fest in the Midwest.

So he's been quite busy, and perhaps that was why he's waving notice today.

Is that right, Wes?

Uh absolutely.

Yes.

I just want to make sure.

I just wanted to make sure that we were we have an affirmative duty to attempts.

Of course, yes.

Well, with that, and with Wes comfortably waving notice, then we'll we'll move on with your application, Wes.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

All right, and then Ms.

Lopez, did I ask?

Are there any holds?

Um, you did not ask, and sorry.

Uh there is no holds.

Okay.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

All right.

Well, with that, would you like to tell us a little bit about your plan here, Wes?

Absolutely.

So I am uh very excited to bring this new uh food and wine festival to Henry Mayer Festival Park.

Uh, a little bit about me.

I have 20 years of hospitality experience working with basically all Milwaukee private business um businesses in um restaurants, bars, uh nightlife hotels, etc.

And uh I'm a huge advocate for Henry Mayor Festival Park.

I believe uh so much in its impact on our city and our social fabric.

After 10 years of serving as president of Milwaukee Pride, I felt um just compelled to bring the other part of my professional and personal career and passions to the lakefront.

And so I presented a business plan to the Milwaukee World Festival's team to create a new festival that celebrates our local restaurant and hospitality industries by curating around 20 um opportunities for 20 to 25 local restaurants to have space at Henry Mayer Festival Park, along with celebrating um seven international regions of wine to bring a global wine experience to Milwaukee.

Um bringing the vintners, the winemakers, and the experts from across the world to the festival park to engage with our local audience, hopefully regional audience, if we want to bring tourism and you know, uh drive folks to stay in our wonderful hotels and make a weekend of it.

So um it's a it's a festival that celebrates our warm hospitality, our our culture of inclusion, while still bringing something extremely new and exciting to the city with this with this global influence.

Um, and so far the the planning has been going has been going great, and we have seen um much interest and engagement with our um citywide local businesses to participate.

Very good.

Thank you, Wes.

Um and I I did just get a little note from license division that um asking uh and I think you did mention this.

So you plan to you're gonna surrender the Class B tavern license um from Pridefest that just concluded?

It's signed and it's on my desk.

I need I need to scan it and I'll do it as soon as I turn it.

Okay, great.

Is that sufficient, Ms.

Ms.

Lopez?

Yes, thank you.

Very good.

All right.

Um questions for Wes at this time from committee members, questions from Alderman Bauman for Wes?

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Um the Freshwater Food and Wine Festival.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the fourth Alderman at District, Alderman Bauman.

Okay, Alderman Peter Bergelis enthusiastically moves for approval, Wes.

Any objection to that motion by Alderman McGallis?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Okay, very good.

It passed.

Thank you, West Shaver.

Thank you, everyone.

Yes.

On its way to council.

Oh, I'm sorry, Alderwoman.

I'm sorry, see what day you have.

Oh, yes.

Can you tell us what day the festival is?

Sure thing.

It's two days.

It is Saturday and Sunday, September 19th and 20th.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Good luck with that.

Thank you all so much.

I appreciate it very much.

Very good.

Thank you.

Alright, now we will move on.

To our 10 15 a.m.

agenda item.

Telly Ray L Lock, agent for Scoreboard Sports Bar L C Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises License Licenses application, requesting karaoke, five amusement machines, poetry readings, patrons dancing, one pool table, one dartboard, jukebox, and hookah services for scoreboard sports bar at 2127 West Wells Street.

Is Telly Ray El Lock present?

Yes, ma'am.

Good morning.

If you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

You assigned from the defensive penalty subject of the state of Wisconsin that the destination are about to give is a truth, the whole truth, and nothing with the truth.

Yes, sir.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

And will you um are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And uh council, would you like to introduce yourself?

Good morning, everybody.

Uh, attorney Michael Maestelman uh on behalf of uh Mr.

Locke.

Thank you.

Good to see everybody.

Good to see you.

Alright.

And uh Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold for occupancy.

All right.

I'm sorry, Mr.

Telleray, did I have you say your name and address for us already?

Telly Ray Lock.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

All right.

Ms.

Lopez, no holds.

Hold for occupancy.

Okay, thank you.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

All right.

I see it's a new application.

Would you like to tell us a little bit about your plan for the business and your experience?

Yes, ma'am.

Well, I've been uh organizing uh bars uh for the last last 15 years.

Uh I grew up in the area uh going to uh Martin Luther King Center, so I'm a big sports fan.

So I just wanted to do the market.

Oh, you can just want to bring something back to the pool towards it.

I just wanted to bring something back to the Marquet area.

Okay.

All right.

Questions for the applicant from committee members at this time?

Questions for um from Alderman Bauman for the applicant?

No questions.

Okay.

Madam Chair.

Yes, I'll uh council.

Um I I noticed on the um the ebook um uh the um yellow bubble on the first page, it says this has never been it's a new premise, it's never been a license before.

I believe that there um might have been a mistake uh in the address that was put down.

Taylor, do you want to explain?

Because it looked I think there's a number of different addresses.

So this area, but there it was.

The structure was a prior bar.

And I I'll stipulate that there was a bar in this building previously.

Okay.

So I'm reading maybe two or three years ago.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

I don't know if how much that's worth.

Yes.

I I don't know if what uh what's the correct address?

2127.

Okay.

Is that what we have?

Twenty one twenty seven West Wells is what we have.

Yes, ma'am.

And that's okay.

Cause it says in the ebook that it's it's never been licensed before.

Okay.

So was that just uh was that just an error on our part then?

No, 2127.

We have nothing, no business at that address.

So there's no license at that address previously, which is why they're mentioning it.

And you're saying it was a bar before, but like what two to how long ago?

No, no, it obviously there's probably a number of different addresses there, 227A, B, I or say multi-dependent building.

Okay.

With multi-first floor commercial spaces.

So we have a bar in another space as far as I know.

Okay, another.

So my question would be uh to you and maybe to this assistant city attorney is if this is not the correct address, right?

Can we amend it here or do we have to what what would the city like to do?

I mean, we got confirmation it's 2127.

We have we have the owner who came down from Seattle with you if you can explain.

Do we have a number or other indication as to which subdivision inside of this building it is?

No, sir.

I then I think we're okay here.

I I would caution that being specific may lead us astray here or being more specific here, maybe problematic.

Do we have a premises description and a layout?

Sorry, because that would that would likely be sufficient again.

If we're talking about one specific place that we're all agreeing is the actual place, that's fine.

Attaching an A, B, C or D for the purposes of clarifying past history to me as a material to the consideration of the uh the committee here.

What I don't want to do is I don't want to get into identifying and then having to make some ministerial correction.

All right, I think we can move on.

Okay, I just want the committee to know that it was or it has been a bar in the past.

We're not just coming in brand new.

Yes.

Thank you for that.

That's the one thing in my other clarification is that uh we were supposed to uh tell you were gonna also amend it to withdraw certain things.

I don't know, did you get to everything?

Did you no DJ?

Right.

So we would like to strike the DJ from the PEP license.

You would like to okay.

So you would like to amend your application, remove um DJ from the PEP.

Okay.

Was that Alex?

Alderman Bauer moves to amend the application per the applicant to remove or oh, DJ was never selected as uh entertainment type.

They did amend it to remove live bands.

Um so that has been amended.

They also made an amendment um to close or for their hours to be Monday through Sunday, 11 a.m.

open and uh midnight close.

Okay, okay.

So no amendment necessary.

All of those requests, but they did get done.

Okay, I apologize.

All right.

Okay.

Well, are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Scoreboard Sports Bar?

Okay.

So two people, anybody else on scoreboard sports bar?

Okay, I see Savannah online.

Anyone else online intending to testify on scoreboard sports bar today?

Tell me right now.

Okay.

Savannah, if you will unmute yourself, and then the two folks, I'm only seeing two people in the room on this item, correct?

Okay, you guys.

It's like every time I ask, I get one more person.

Raise your hand right now if you're here on scoreboard sports bar.

Okay, now I have three people in the room, and I have one person virtually, Savannah.

If you'll all raise your right hand, we'll get everybody sworn in at once.

Do you send you for a moment that depends on better?

Do you subverture of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give?

Is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes, thank you.

Guys, okay.

I heard you say yes to ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

Savannah, are you here in support of the application or against?

I'm here in opposition.

In opposition, okay.

And then you three in the room, are you here?

Opposition, opposition, sir?

Support.

Okay, we're gonna start with we take the opponents first, right?

Okay.

So I think I'm gonna start with Savannah, our one person here virtually.

She's here in uh opposition to the application.

Okay, so we put two minutes, two and a half minutes on the clock for you, Ms.

Brooks.

If you'll start with your remarks.

Okay.

My name is Savannah Brooks.

The address is 801 North 27 Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

So I would like to I'm sorry.

Go right ahead.

Okay.

I would like to share just a few reasons why we uh feel so strongly in opposition about scoreboard uh scoreboard coming into our area.

So over the years, residents and community organis organizations, businesses, and the public partners have worked diligently to address and reduce many of the challenges challenging behaviors we have neglect that we have neglectedly impacted the neighborhood significant.

Significantly time, resources, and collaborations have been invested to improve the safety and quality of the life in the community and the well-being of the neighborhood.

We are concerned that the additions of the standalone liquor license could undermine the progress by potential contributions to increase loadering, public intoxication, disorderly conduct, and other behaviors that the community has worked very hard to decrease.

Our position is not intended to oppose to oppose economic economic development, but rather to ensure that the future development aligns with the community goals.

Um and maintaining a safe safe and a healthy community for us to work and live work live work and play in.

So that's why we feel so strongly in opposition.

Thank you, Ms.

Brooks for your testimony.

If you'll stay right there for any questions, questions for Ms.

Brooks at this time from committee members?

Questions from Alderman Bauman for Ms.

Brooks.

Questions from the applicant for Ms.

Brooks.

Go ahead, attorney.

Ms.

Brooks, uh this is attorney Mike Mason.

I'm telling his attorney.

Did my client approach you before he even applied to discuss with you his proposal for what he wanted to do there?

Yes, he did.

Did you uh did he go over everything with you that he wanted to do there?

Yes.

Okay.

And at that time, did you tell him that you would support him?

No, we did not.

We uh told him how uh previous things have worked in the past, and we did do a sub tent with Mr.

Uh Lucky on with our CLO officers and other community members and just express concerns at that time.

Okay, thank you.

Nothing further, counsel.

All right, Ms.

Brooks, thank you so much for your testimony.

Um we are we will move on now to our two um folks in the room in opposition as well to the application.

Will you come up to the standing mic?

And if you'll start with your name and address and then go right into your remarks, you'll have two and a half minutes.

Thank you.

Hi, Kelsey Otero from Marquette University.

Address is 1250 West Wisconsin.

And I'm sorry, do you have a position?

Oh, are you speaking on behalf of the university?

I'm behalf of the university, and what's your position there?

We are opposing the business license, the liquor license.

I'm sorry, what's your title?

Uh senior director of community engagement.

Thank you.

Anything else?

Okay, great.

Go ahead.

Um, we have not had any conversation with the business owner, and as he just mentioned, he's looking to bring a bar back to an entertainment back to the Marquette district, and so um, you know, at a minimum we would want to continue to have conversation moving forward with the business owner, um, in order to ensure that it is a um safe establishment and better understand what the nature of uh just engagement within the neighborhood will be.

We work closely with near west side partners, and so um want to also support the position of near west side Partners in this and then the last thing I'll I'll mention is the uh license is for a um seventy-one percent liquor is the assumed um sales numbers at this point, and um we we um for uh establishments that are coming into the neighborhood would like to see options where there's food and just diversification of other revenue streams.

Okay, thank you.

If you'll stay there for questions.

Questions for this witness from committee members at this time.

Questions from Alderman Bauman?

Questions from the applicant go ahead attorney um give me one second oh um did um did a Maria Gonclavus Ramos reach out to you regarding this matter because can you use the microphone attorney?

Uh my my client was working with everybody uh in the neighborhood and other folks and wanted to reach out to you and I'm looking at an email um your name is Kelsey right?

Yes.

Uh from uh Maria Gonclavis Ramos uh reaching out to you uh about working with Mr.

Lock and sitting down with him to talk about the the uh his proposed bar did you not get that email it was sent uh they're from the near west side partners it was march tw March twenty fifth do you recall getting that no I do not it is possible that I did but there was no follow-up after that right but you were sending an email right from the near west side organization and you're saying you didn't see it correct okay well I'm looking at it right here may I approach the witness and show her madam chair this is irrelevant there are position to the license that's fine no I what about three months ago is totally irrelevant well no it does because her testimony said it would be nice if we had come and approached the university in in before the end and to to try to like work this out like my client has done with everybody and we tried and I mean it shows it right here.

So okay we tried uh are you still willing to sit down and talk to us.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Any other questions from committee or okay thank you Canvasy name and address and you'll be going through our testimony you'll be given a uh two and a half minutes all right good morning everyone my name is Edith Hudson I'm representing Marquette University and I'm currently the police chief at Marquette University.

Go ahead.

Alright so uh in addition to uh Kelsey's testimony I'd like to add that within our patrol zone so Marquette University has our own police department our own law enforcement agency and we have a designated patrol area within that area area there are 14 either liquor tavern or some uh entertainment type establishment that are there we feel that that is sufficient for our students we don't feel that an additional uh building or uh business with entertainment and a class B tavern license is needed um within close proximity to our campus and this would be just a little bit outside of the patrol zone by by feet but um it would be something that we would stand in opposition to because of the staturation of liquor tavern or other entertainment establishments within the patrol zone that our students already patronize thank you you're welcome any questions from committee for sweetness on burnellas thank you um so your patrol zone ends at what it is roughly um between canal to state street from maybe the freeway 10th ninth street to about 21st or 23rd 24th street depending on which area uh within the patrol area it kind of jogs in and outside a perfect square patrol zone is east of 21st street on wells it ends at 20 yes patrol zone ends at 21st street and what so this is 50 feet outside of your patrol zone.

Yes.

Are you aware of uh having calls for service or uh dealing with problems at this location when it was a bar previously there were some calls for service, yeah.

At that time um prior to June 1st of twenty twenty four it was Conway's tavern it was in our patrol zone.

And we did have calls for service there.

Nothing significant.

So your patrol zone changed after the Conway's closed.

I don't know if it was after or if it was before.

All I can tell you is that June 1st of 2024 is when our patrol zone changed.

And how does Marquette University determine their patrol zone?

It is um I mean it it seems like it's changed.

It yes, we petition uh the state, the attorney general's office when we want to make adjustments to our patrol zone, and that was granted for us through the attorney general's office, and we made accommodations and made changes, and if they were effective June 1st of 2024.

So if Marquette University is concerned about this particular business, they have the opportunity to modify their patrol zone again.

Well, of course, it would be something that could be considered, but our patrol zone is dependent upon where our students live and where our students spend their time, but primarily where our students live.

So if there's another business that's feet outside of your current patrol zone in an area that used to be part of your patrol zone, it's likely that the attorney general would allow you to expand your borders again.

Well, we would have to determine whether or not it was something that Marquette University is willing to do.

So, and I I apologize for taking the time of the committee for this, but so are you concerned about this block on Well Street or not?

Because if you are, then you would want to include it in your patrol zone.

If you're not, then I'm curious why you have an objection to this business license application.

You can't have it both ways, right?

Well, we have an objection because of the concentration of businesses that are in the area.

This is just outside of the patrol zone that is serviced by uh the Milwaukee Police Department who's fully capable of handling any concerns that happen in that area.

We again we're concerned about the concentration.

We're concerned about yet another uh establishment where our students can go and drink and um as you know, sometimes students who are college age don't make the best decisions when it comes to their consumption of alcohol, and we're trying to um, and that's no inflection on anyone any particular member of this committee.

Absolutely not.

But they yes, yes, I'm sure.

But it's just a concern that the university has, and we would not be, I think, doing our due diligence if we did not bring our concern before this committee as you make your determination about whether or not the license should be granted or not.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Are there any questions from Otto and Bauman?

Do you have any questions?

Uh any quite questions from the applicant for this witness.

Even though it's outside your patrol zone, if there was a student in this treasure, you would respond to that location anyway, would you not?

If we received a call, uh we would we would respond along with Milwaukee's police department.

So it's that it's not a fixed barrier if it's uh more or less a fluid line that is subject to being it it's flexible.

We go where we're where we're needed, sir.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Could I have your phone numbers to give some of the neighbors so they could call you instead of MPD since you could respond over there?

We don't have a problem with people calling us, they have our number.

We'll give you a call.

So you just stated that when it was a different establishment, you had no significant calls, correct?

We have calls for service, yes.

Okay.

So you reviewed your records before you came down here?

Yes.

Okay, could you tell us give us some examples of read some of those to us?

What those calls were?

Okay.

I could do that.

And it's attributable to this bar.

Yes.

It was Conway's for several years.

Yes.

And that was not a sports bar like this as well.

I don't know.

I've never been in there.

I can't tell you uh exactly what it was.

But uh let's see, March of 22, we had someone acting suspiciously and not ordering, and our officers responded.

March of 22.

Oh no, okay.

So when they responded, what happened?

I don't have a lot of that information.

Well then if if you want it to, you could Bill Conway's bar is not on trial here.

Conway's bar is irrelevant to a new license.

A new license.

My turn.

But you're stating that they object because of the crime and the problems from the prior establishment.

So why can't I ask questions?

So they can say whatever they want, and I can't ask them to support it with any anything.

Okay.

I guess so.

I mean, let them say that it's been bad in the past, lots of problems, and when I asked what the problems are, I can't they they they don't have the answer.

Okay.

But we're we're speaking to this license as before us.

I think that's why the objective.

But she's objecting because of past problems at this establishment.

That's objecting because it is outside of the they've had previous calls, but it was outside of their border where they monitor.

Right.

But I'd like to know what the past calls were.

I mean, using it as a basis.

If let's just say there were no problems in the past with this place.

Madam Chair.

But can I just attorney for the record?

You're the one who brought up the old bar first, remember?

Right.

When we started this whole I did application.

Of course I did, because on your note it said this wasn't on a bar in the past, but it was.

That was in the ebook.

That's what I just want to know.

Could you tell us what what would what were the response?

What you know, somebody can call the police.

We see it all the time here.

Hey, there's a murder that happened.

The police show up, there's like, there's no murder.

So I I just want to know what your officers have documented at this establishment.

That at this location.

That's all I want to know.

That's all I want to know.

Madam Chair, for a previously licensed premises that was last opened three or four years ago.

Yeah, that would be on the previous committee report if it was for the worst since that time.

So they can stand up here and object because of past uh problems at this place, and I can't ask questions.

Okay, that's a committee pleasure, that's fine.

Oh.

The record speaks for itself.

No, it does.

She won't let the record speak because she won't.

They're not letting me ask her to sh to give us the information of what the record was.

We don't know what the record was.

I'm asking about the record.

If I could just clarify, I didn't um object because of crime in the area.

I said I was concerned about the concentration of liquor tavern and entertainment establishments in the Marquette area, and I felt that, and I feel that an additional one in the area is not something that the police department or Marquette University supports at this time.

Marquette University's police department support does not support at this time.

Thank you.

Um sorry to bring this back, but so you mentioned that there are 14 locations that serve Marquette students nearby.

Does the Marquette police department have a relationship with those business owners?

We do have a relationship with the majority of those business owners, yes.

And so there's a voluntary uh connection or um communication between the department and the business owners in most?

It it's primarily through the university, but our police department and you know, I would have to look through the list of the 14 to tell you which ones we regularly communicate with and which ones we don't.

Does the department stop by and do license checks or um neighborhood uh visits?

We we do.

Uh would the department be willing to do the exact same thing with this new business, should the license be granted, even though it's fifty feet outside of the scope of your patrol territory.

That would not be something that we would do as far as doing a license check because it's in the city of Milwaukee and MPD that's in their patrol area.

Right, but I'm but you have a objection to the license.

Would you treat this would you should the license be granted?

Would you treat this just like your other uh 14 establishments in your purview and be a neighborly uh communicator with the business with the business owners?

The state doesn't give us the authority to do that because it's outside of our patrol area.

There are some things that we can do in assistance to Milwaukee's police department, but enforcement uh laws and other things, uh, that would be something that the Milwaukee Police Department would be responsible for.

Unless you were to change your borders again and expand to cover this block once more.

That that could be an option, yes.

But you're not ready to say that you would recommend or ask for that expansion.

That would not be something that I would look at right now.

Again, the driver for our boundaries are where our students live and Marquette University's property that they own.

And where your students go.

That's what you said earlier.

Right.

Where where a students frequent.

Yes.

Understood.

Thank you.

Thank you, Matt.

Thank you.

Any other questions from we have one more witness?

Was there one more?

Okay.

Good morning.

Good morning.

State your name and address.

Um and start your testimony to be given two and a half minutes.

Yes, my name is Luis Robles.

My address is 3613 West 66 Place, Chicago, Illinois, 60629.

My relation to the address.

I own the building.

I was a Marquette student.

I lived on the corner of 22nd in Wells.

Back in 2016, and I lived on that street.

This is what I was I could afford as a student, right?

Um cheaper than being on the campus.

So we bought the building because I had a vested interest in the neighborhood.

I was also part of the acre program.

Um long-term commitment to the neighborhood.

When we had bought the building, we understood that we were going to have a couple challenges, right, because of the liquor license, but we said we we know that um it was gonna be a challenge, but we'll we'll be willing to take it for our vetting process to rent out the space.

Like multiple people trying to open up a bar and club, and we clearly stated that we did not want to have a club in the area.

One, because we don't want to be a nuisance to the neighborhood, and two, we also have tenants that live upstairs.

So we found what we believe is gonna be the best tenant for the space.

Even throughout that entire process, we were meeting with Marquette, we are meeting with near west side, we also met with the aldermen.

We were very active since the beginning, and and I'm just not really understanding what the opposition is.

That's it.

Thank you.

Any questions for committee for this witness?

And chair.

Okay, thank you for your testimony today.

Um, I do appreciate nope you gotta stay up here for questions.

Okay.

I was ready to go.

No, I appreciate your testimony.

Um I did want to ask, because I hear you say you don't want a club.

Right.

And I plan on I'm I plan on asking the applicant soon, but I know we're here in testimony right now.

But he does have patrons dancing here on the um, you know, he's got his the jukebox and he's got explicitly on the pep patrons dancing.

To me, that's I mean that can turn into a club.

So and I did hear that his attorney say this is a sports bar, this is a sports bar.

It's just strange to have patrons dancing checked off on the Pep if you're if you're not gonna have try to have a club atmosphere.

I I mean I think there's a difference between patrons dancing and having like a full-fledged club where you know we're open past midnight, like two in the morning, people just wandering in the streets after hours, loud music.

That's what I associated club.

We that's that's not what we're looking for, and tally or the the applicant right, our retirement was amendable to that, and that that answers that.

Okay.

And I'll ask him, I do think he's uh staying up until bar time, but I will ask him.

We're closing earlier.

Okay.

And we'll withdraw the dance.

Okay, all right.

Well, very good.

Okay, that's all I have.

Thank you.

We'll withdraw the dancing, we're closing early.

We have security.

Doesn't sound like a question.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

Uh, any questions from Autumn Bowman Bauman?

Any questions from the applicant from this witness?

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And I had a question.

I can't remember it though.

Okay.

Um this is in the Fourth Automatic District, Ottoman Bauman.

Yeah, thank you, madam chair, members of the committee.

Uh, I do object to this uh new license.

I agree with Marquette University in terms of this being a situation of over concentration.

This is a high crime neighborhood.

I know I've I live several blocks to the west.

I've been familiar with this neighborhood going on 35 years.

One week ago when there was a shootout at 18th in Wells, just two blocks from this location involving multiple incidents of gunfire and damage to buildings and structures.

No one was hit.

Fortunately, but that did originate with a licensed premises at uh 17th and Wells.

So yes, there are issues in this neighborhood.

Uh this business about calling something a sports bar and that immunizes it from trouble.

Uh the original concept of this bar was as you say dancing bands, karaoke.

Uh that's not sports bar material.

Number one.

Number two, uh, I do question the applicant's frankly experience in the bar business.

His original application, and I'm not sure it's still in this particular uh ebook that was submitted to committee, is that as part of his security plan, he was going to lock the front door, and people could only get in on a basically ringing up bell to come in.

Well, that's illegal in the city of Milwaukee under current licensing arrangement.

Anyone experienced in the business would know that.

So for a variety of reasons, I mean, I I support my stakeholders, I support universities' position and their right to protect their neighborhood, protect their students, protect their staff and fat faculty.

Uh I certainly support the near-west side partners, which are a major force for good and positive activity on the nearwest side of Milwaukee.

And I think this is just one bar that we do not need.

I also mentioned this is one block from the rescue mission.

So in terms of the potential for loitering and people hanging around if anyone travels down Well Street at various times of the day or night, you will see folks sitting on the corners, sitting on the stoops, hanging out in front of buildings.

And I'm very fearful that's exactly what will happen with this establishment.

Uh, it is a new license.

There is no property right.

Uh due process is being given by this very hearing today.

We've heard from two major stakeholders in opposition.

I think their arguments are very valid, so I would ask the committee to reject the application.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Um I think that we would ask that it be held, and here's the reason.

We tried to meet with Marquette.

Um apparently they didn't see the email that came through.

It wasn't sent by us, even it was by the near west side partners who we were working with and are who are not here today to object either.

Listen, that was Savannah Burrow.

Okay, I apologize.

I did I didn't catch that.

Okay, but I knew we met with them, and apparently at the time they supported it because they also it was the one that sent the email uh to um to Marquette trying to get a meeting for us.

So we thought that they were working with us to try to get this done.

We'd like an opportunity to sit down with Marquette and see if we can work something up and follow up with the near west side, um, and maybe we can tinker with it.

Uh, our uh our application to make it so that it it might be something that they could live with.

Okay, thank you.

Uh we are in committee.

Does committee have a motion?

Well, madam chair.

Auto person's a marriage.

Um, I have no objection, they want to hold it, that's fine.

Okay, very good.

I appreciate that.

Comment, uh Alderman Bauman.

Yeah, we appreciate that all in the Balma.

And so with that, uh I would move to hold this item about auto versus our repos to hold hearing and seeing no small scroll.

How do I?

Madam Chair, before you do that, there was uh an amendment that was accepted by the applicant or at least appealed for by the applicant.

I think amendment here would help.

Um I think it was the removal of patrons dancing, if I'm not mistaken.

I don't believe that that was passed, nor was it taken up by the committee.

Um, because there will be again future determination.

I think clarification here now might serve you later.

I and I was going to, madam chair.

I was going to bring that up because I do recall you um indicating that you would um be interested in removing patrons dancing.

I would hope you would can reconsider that whole take another look at your PEP.

Because like Alderman Bauman said, I do feel like it doesn't really reflect a true sports bar.

So um as there was this asked to hold, I thought we could hold off on on that amendment.

Uh, we'll have time to amend their yeah, absolutely we can.

But if there's again, uh if we wanted to amend to remove patrons dancing now, we could because it was discussed.

If not, that's fine.

It's four spit for determination at either time.

Yeah, I I I agree with the city attorney and to the chair and deputy chair.

Or you're the chair, you're the deputy chair right now.

Chair.

You're the deputy chair.

So you'd like to amend it?

We will it we can we can amend it after this.

We'll go through the whole thing as you suggested, Deputy Chair.

Okay.

And um and go through it.

And before we even amend it, we'll meet with Marquette and say here's what we can do.

Are you willing to work with us?

As well as North West Side Partners.

Okay.

So we'll try to be on the same page.

So I'll stick to my motion.

So the motion is to hold our department's amaripa hearing and seeing no objections.

So order.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

Next up on our 10 20 a.m.

agenda, we have Thomas B.

Ashley, agent for local pub, LLC Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises Food Dealer and Sidewalk Dining License Transfer Application with change of agent, change of trade name, and adding stockholders to the spread at one-one three-seven North Martin Luther King Junior Drive.

Is Thomas B.

Ashley present?

Thank you.

Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Anyone who'll be testifying.

The Asoni affirm on the defense and penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about the give is it true to whole truth and a few with the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Okay.

You can state your appearance and then we'll have them state their.

Good morning, Chair, members of the committee.

I'm attorney Brian Randolph.

Uh with the licensed agent who's here as well as Aaron Olson.

I know we'll get to introductions in a minute, but I've been working with them on their applications.

Okay.

So can you please state your name and address, Mr.

Ashley?

Thomas Ashley, 1855 North Cambridge Avenue, Apartment 204, Milwaukee.

Okay.

Aaron Olson, 1680A, North Franklin Place, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

There are holds from wholesalers for delinquent bills.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

5624 in Walkie County Court.

The 50% stockholder, Aaron Olson, was found guilty of utterly while intoxicated.

Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?

Briefly, first on the hold, um, right now the business is closed.

This is a transfer application, so that's certainly something we'll be cleaning up as part of the wholesalers and the pending uh invoices.

As far as uh Mr.

Olson's charge that was just read in, he has completed his sentence, paid the forfeiture, and certainly uh learned from that process, but he is committed to not being a reoffender in that regard.

Okay, thank you.

Um Mr.

Ashley, you are taking over this business.

Do you have he's you're changing the agent?

Just changing the agent.

Yes, we can talk about that in a minute.

Okay at the right time.

So do you want to now go into a neighbor's now?

Questions on the oh, are there any questions on the police report?

From committee, okay.

Um are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Oh, we have Edward DeShazer.

That's we have one person present to testify.

Uh Mr.

DeShazer, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

The Asani affirmed the independents and penalties of burgery of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about the give.

Is it true to the whole truth and a few with the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Uh please state your name and address for the record, and you'd be given two and a half minutes to testify.

Sounds good, thank you.

Uh Edward DeShazer, 1110 North, Dr.

Martin Luther King Junior Drive.

Um, I am a neighbor and also the previous owner.

Well, current to become previous owner of this business.

Um, I have been a part of the industry of Milwaukee since 2008, owned, um, operated, and consulted with um hospitality businesses since 2016.

I'm a huge proponent of what's going on on the street, and I was and currently technically am, uh, as we go through this process, the owner of local pub.

So to start the hold from the distributors would be my responsibility.

So I want to make sure that's clear that that is not anything on their end.

But for me, as I am transitioning out of the service industry after being involved in it for so long, it was important for me and my team uh to find people that would honor the financial.

We put a huge amount of money into that space, as anyone that saw it from the previous business to what it looks like today.

We put a huge amount of money into it, a lot of time, a lot of our resources into it.

So as we were making decisions on what to do next, um, it was important for me to find people and partners who would not let that go to waste and to be a good fit for the street.

So after having conversations with multiple multiple different business owners uh working with um Aaron and Tom and their team.

Um I was excited for the vision that they had for the space and was happy to work with them uh to eventually take over the space so all of our hard work would not just be in vain and and go to waste.

So I am here in support of uh this license as also having a business across the street, so I am in support of them.

Thank you.

Does committee have any questions for this witness?

On an abomining questions for this witness.

Any questions?

No questions.

Thank you.

Alright, thank you all.

Um, 4th Alderback.

Yeah, so this is in the Fourth Automac District.

No objection.

All right.

Move rule.

What would you like?

Okay.

Motion by Otterman Brower is approval.

Hearing you saying no objections, so order.

Thank you.

I know you want to talk more.

Good luck.

All right, very good.

See you later.

Yeah, thanks.

Next up on our 10 30 a.m.

agenda, Hakem K.

Assad, agent for Cream City Auto LLC secondhand motor vehicle dealers license renewal application for cream city auto at 5848 South 27th Street.

Is Hakam Assad present?

Hakam Assad.

Cream City Auto LLC.

First.

Licensing.

Have you heard from this applicant?

Uh we have not heard from them.

Have you heard okay?

No.

Uh first, and does the first non-apparent?

Uh cream city, yes.

Okay, I'll move to hold, man.

Motion by Auto President, is to hold hearing and seeing no objections, so order.

Next up on our 1035 a.m.

agenda, Jeffrey Starin.

Jeffy Jeffrey M.

Starin, agent for South 27th restaurant LLC, food dealer license renewal application for McDonald's at 5890 South 27th Street.

Is Jeffrey M.

Starin president?

Okay.

Oh, you're Mr.

Steering.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Uh please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Do you saw any of them on the defensive party of the state of Wisconsin?

That the testimony about to give is it true that holds and if you want the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting of the possibility that your application may be denied?

I did receive note.

Oh, thank you.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Okay.

My name is Jeffrey Stern.

S T E R E N.

The address is 4976 North Ardmore Avenue.

Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin 53217.

Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

Uh no holds.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Yes, 17 of them.

On 512, 25 at 307 p.m.

officers were dispatched to a trouble with subject complaint.

An actor was in business was in business arguing with employees, MVPs until he the subject was advised and left without incident.

On 5 18, 25 at 4:36 a.m., officers were dispatched to welfare check.

Upon arrival, Milwaukee Fire Department was attending to a subject that was sleeping in the paddock area of the business.

The subject left with no additional services needed.

On 6 15 25 at 6 17 a.m.

Milwaukee police received a trouble with subject complaint.

Employees did not call the police and no additional services were needed.

On 6 21 25 at 2 35 PM, also were dispatched to a hold up alarm.

Manager stated that the alarm was accidentally activated and no additional services were needed.

On 7 22 25 at 7 25, um, isn't it AMRP?

I'm sorry, Milwaukee police received a trouble with subject complaint.

Manager reported a subject that come to the business multiple times causing a disturbance, attempting to confuse employees and get free food.

On 8 2 25 at 8 58 p.m., officers were dispatched to a shooting investigation.

Employees were not cooperative with officers during investigation.

They were hesitant to provide security camera footage and questioning why police needed video.

On 9 3 25 at 4 04 PM, an officer was dispatched to a subject with uh to a trouble with subject complaint.

Manager reported a subject panhandling refusing to leave.

The subject was gone prior to officer's arrival.

The 9 4 25 at 8 15 p.m., officers were dispatched to an alarm.

An employee stated that the alarm was accidentally activated and no additional services were needed.

There are two reports regarding that.

On 10 12 25 at 7 13 p.m., an officer was dispatched to a trouble of subject complaint.

An employee reported a belligerent subject that refused to leave.

No business violations were reported.

On 10 13 25 at 7 51 p.m., an officer was dispatched to a trouble of subject complaint.

The manager reported a uh subject panhandling.

The subject was gone prior to officer's arrival.

On 10 15 25 at 10 48 p.m., an officer was dispatched to a trouble of subject complaint.

The manager reported a subject trespassing on the property, which tends to be a daily occurrence with the individual.

The subject was gone prior to officers' arrival.

On 10 27 25 at 5 24 a.m., an officer was dispatched to a trouble of subject complaint.

The manager reported a sub a suspect who sat at a table and began screaming, causing a disturbance.

Milky police received a trouble with subject complaint.

The manager reported a subject in the business yelling at customers, causing a disturbice and refusing to leave.

The subject left after being advised.

On 11 27 25 at 9 16 a.m.

Milky police received a trouble with subject complaint.

The manager reported a subject in the business yelling at customers, causing a disturbance and refusing to leave.

The subject was gone prior to arrival.

On 1 5 26 at 4 8 p.m., an officer was dispatched to a theft complaint.

Manager reported a subject wanted uh for stealing a snowblower from the business earlier, entered the business on that date and stole food.

The subject fled prior to arrival.

On 1 11 26 at 4 53 p.m., an officer was dispatched to battery complaint.

An unknown actor was in the business panhandling uh as a food order was placed on the counter, the actor stole the items.

Employees stated the instant the incident never became physical.

On 1 13 26 at 5 02 p.m.

if an officer was dispatched to a battery complaint.

The manager reported a subject was uh who went behind the counter, took a cup, and became aggressive after being confronted.

The subject threw a drink in the manager's face and attempted to punch them.

The subject was located and cited for disorderly conduct.

Thank you.

Um would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report.

I did review the police report, the five-year police report.

I noted that there were five false alarms.

I would hope that the restaurant was fined for it because I can discipline much more effectively if there's a fine as opposed to no fine.

Of the 26 calls, two are not from us.

Seven were the subjects had already left the restaurant by the time the police did report.

That video was reviewed by the community affairs officer, and he disputes that conclusion.

Basically, uh this is a Saturday night where there was a shooting in the parking lot between a car and an individual walking a dog, and the person ran into the restaurant bloody, and then eventually apparently hopped in that car and drove off to the hospital.

We never found out any details about it, but the person running the shift isn't capable of taking flash drives off the video camera.

And the two people that are in my company of 16 restaurants that is capable of it, you know.

Well, one lives in Pleasant Prairie and and the other lives on East Howard.

You know, in east in Milwaukee.

Within before the night was over, they were able to get the manager who lives in Oak Creek to the restaurant back to the restaurant, and uh over the phone was instructed and apparently successfully did get a flash drive before the night was over.

But it was just not not unwillingness, it was inability.

Thank you.

Uh Otterman Spike, do you have any questions about the police report?

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh yeah, just a few questions.

So I noticed there was a pretty substantial uptake up tick in the number of um incidents involving troubles with subjects.

Um looks like there's a bunch of issues relating to panhandlers and maybe people having a mental health crisis.

So just wondering if you have security on its staff and if you don't, what um what steps you might be taking?

It would be advantageous to have a meeting, for example, with the community liaison officers, they can offer you advice about how you can uh have your staff trained to deal with that situation.

I know 27th and Ramsey's is the intersection, but uh was a little concerned with the uptick and number of complaints, and just wanted to make sure that you were reaching out to the police to get the help you needed.

Okay, actually I have a meeting scheduled tomorrow with the bid director and with the community service off or liaison officer at the restaurant at 10 tomorrow.

Uh I do have a willingness to bring guards in where I can have a a pattern.

I operate the McDonald's on north and new hall, uh east north and new hall on the east side.

I have security there probably twelve out ten to twelve hours a day most days of the week.

There I have a lot more people on the street or people that think that my restaurant's comfortable enough to sleep in.

And you know, we do try to keep keep them moving out of that restaurant.

I also have security near tech high school, you know, when the students are around, because it when you have 30 students to send on a store before or after school, you know, after being well behaved all day, they tend to be a guess full of energy.

I guess it would be a polite way to phrase it.

After school, and so I understand um this was a one-year uptick.

I if we've tend to look if there's a pattern, yeah.

If we do see it moving forward, then I would want that taken more seriously.

I understand this isn't.

I always do.

I I have security like I said in three restaurants, four restaurants.

If I can find them, let's say if it was a set time of day, I would have security there or a set day of the week, absolutely.

And then with respect to camera access, I know you were saying that somebody was able to obtain access that same night, which is good.

Very serious incident.

Um, do you have any plans or steps to train anybody on staff to access the video in case timeliness is of great importance to the police?

Typically I haven't.

In some restaurants, the people tend to be a little better than others, you know, as far as being techies.

You know, the one that sat particularly Saturday night apparently was I guess nervous enough of s of seeing someone come in and but he wasn't that able to use the machine.

So someone did what did come to the store and was instructed how to do it over the phone.

Yeah, and again, they were able to do it in the same night, so there wasn't a huge delay there, but we want to make sure the police can get access to video as as quickly as possible.

McDonald's nationally is uh actually review reviewing the whole issue as of next year.

They want sixteen cameras in every restaurant in the in the United States.

So I mean they they're taking cameras.

Yep, we just need to make sure they have access to them if the police need that information.

And then uh lastly, I think I was provided with the same information you were, Mr.

Steering, about um Officer Ward, the community liaison officer reviewing the video.

The shooting obviously is is kind of why we're here.

Um, again, the testimony I was supplied with was that the employees gave the police their names, personnel cell phone numbers, and their general manager's phone number to get any camera footage.

They were cooperative, um, even though they were a little shaken and they rendered aid to until the police arrived.

So given that information which I just received yesterday, um, yeah, I I don't have a deep concern uh about that incident being tied to the store.

And it looks like from reading the PA thirty-three, it sounds like the uh detectives may have been a little frustrated with um the ability to get access to the camera footage, so maybe that accounts for the discrepancy.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Any questions from committee about the police report?

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.

It's in the 13th Autobag district.

I'm pleased to hear that there's going to be the meeting with the CLO and the bid tomorrow.

Um, please provide me with an update and let me know if you need any more resources.

The bid is a resource, obviously, but we want to make sure the police district is reaching out about these panhandling and mental health issues so that everybody, including your employees, can remain safe.

So I have no objection to renewal with a warning letter.

Thank you.

We're in committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Move to approve of the rolling letter.

Renew, excuse me.

The motion by Otterman Brower is approval with a warning letter.

Hearing and saying no objections, so ordered.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next up on our 1040 a.m.

agenda.

Mukesh S.

Darod, agent for the road, incorporated.

Extended hours establishments and food dealer license renewal application for Denny's number eight zero nine two at three eight zero one South 27th Street.

Is Makesh S.

Durad present?

On the board.

Yes, thank you.

Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Do you Sony affirm on the defensive penalties of graduate of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true?

The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes, I do.

Are you going to receive a notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Please state your name and address for the record.

You want uh restaurant address?

The address where you would prefer to give mail.

Yeah, my address is uh 8416 scandal like land.

Linux of Kansas 66215.

Thank you.

Miss Lopez, are there any hold?

No holds.

Sergeant Cornejo is there a police report.

Yes.

On 5 30 25 at 2 38 a.m.

Walkie police received a trouble with subject complaint.

Manager requested officers remove a subject that was loitering in the business for several hours.

The subject complied and left without incident.

On 6 7 25 at 10 06 p.m.

Walkie police received a trouble with subject complaint.

The manager reported two subjects ordered food and refused to pay.

The subject stated they found a bug in their food and refused to pay.

The manager did not want to prosecute and requested that the subjects be removed from the business.

On 7 31 25 at 10 51 p.m., Milky Police received a theft complaint.

The manager reported a subject denied, uh, dined and dashed.

Uh the subject uh wasn't identified and issued a citation.

A 9 21 25 at 6 51 a.m.

An officer was dispatched to a theft complaint.

The manager reported five subjects ordered food and left without pain.

Officers were dispatched to Walker check.

An employee reported a subject sleeping on the women's bathroom floor.

Monkey fire department provided medical treatment on 11 22 25 at 4 38 a.m.

and also dispatched to a battery complaint.

The manager stated the subjects left prior to the officer's arrival on 12 7 25 at 8 15 p.m.

Officers were dispatched to a theft complaint.

The shift manager reported an employee that allegedly stole money from the cash register.

Security camera footage was not available during the investigation.

Case pending receiving uh security footage from the general manager.

On 2 126 at 3 37 a.m.

Officers were dispatched to a shots fired complaint.

A security guard reported a large group in the business engaged in a physical fight, which carried out to the parking lot.

While subjects were fleeing in vehicles, several gunshots were heard.

Uh case pending receiving security footage from the owner on 324 26 at 1 33 a.m.

and also was dispatched to a subject with weapon complaint.

The shift manager reported a subject in the business yelling at customers and employees causing a disturbance and possibly armed with a knife.

The subject was located at a nearby parking lot.

On 4 1 26 at 11 51 a.m.

Officers were dispatched to a trouble subject complaint.

The manager reported a subject causing a disturbance and refusing to leave.

Officers requested that the subject leave the business.

The subject was no longer on scene, and the employee was advised on how to get a restraint order.

On 4 10 26 at 4 47 a.m., and also is dispatched to a.m.

officers were dispatched a subject with weapon complaint.

Upon officer's arrival, it was discovered that the caller was at a local hospital being treated for injuries.

A security guard and employee stated that they did not witness a fight at the business.

Security camera was not available during the investigation, and an employee refused to give the manager's name to officers.

The investigation revealed that subjects known to each other engaged in an argument at the business, which escalated to a physical fight.

The victim at the hospital was being treated for knife wounds.

An employee reported four subjects that left the business without paying for their meals.

The officer was able to contact one of the subjects and advise them that the business was uh a business did not want them back on the property.

The subject stated that someone uh some of the food was raw, and a friend decided they would not pay for the meals.

But he would uh go back and pay the bill.

Thank you.

Uh Mr.

Durra, would you like to speak to the items on the police report?

Uh yeah, I have the the local uh district manager and uh director uh online.

They can uh they can go through this.

Um, okay if they can both uh unmute and raise their right hands if you sworn in.

Yes, yes.

Okay, do you sell me if I'm on the defensive party subverger of the state of Wisconsin that the test you might about to give?

Is it true to hold true at the NFM with the truth?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

So one of you is on the speak to the items on the police report.

Yeah, before Melissa start, uh just wanna I just want to say about 50% of these are not late night incidents.

So just want to mention that.

Okay.

So the police report, who's are you gonna say something about it?

Yes, um, this is Melissa Nelson Bohan.

Um I like said, some of these are not even um have to do with late night times, and they are to do with um four of them are people not wanting to, you know, leaving without paying their bill, and um all the other ones with the camera asking for camera footage, um, they have all been sent.

The one on 12.7 that was sent um as requested on 12 15, the one on um February 1st that was sent on February 1st, and the one on um April 24th that was also sent on April 24th, and um the manager refusing to give name she um for some reason which I already spoke to her about, um, did not want to give out my name and information, but um they are directed at all times that my name and or contact information, and I am available twenty-four hours a day, 365 days of the year because we run businesses twenty-four hours a day.

Um, six minutes a day, you know, they're able to contact me if any need arises with the police department or anybody else that would need anything with an emergency.

Thank you.

Is that a part of no?

All right, thank you.

Are there any questions from committee about the police report?

Questions from Ottoman Spyker about the police report.

Uh yes, thank you.

Uh so I noticed there's three incidents.

One item 39 on 1122 takes place at 438 a.m.

That's the battery.

Item 41 takes place February 1st.

A bunch of these take place in April and uh this year.

Um, that one number 41 took place at 3 37 a.m.

That was when there was the shots fired complaint, where the large group came into Denny's and engaged in a physical fight, went out in the parking lot, and then shots were fired.

And there were nine or five nine millimeter casings taken from the parking lot.

They didn't have access to the video there.

I believe it was later provided.

But I guess the most disturbing incident to my mind happens item 45, and that's the one I guess I have a few questions about.

Takes place on April 24th at 4 50 a.m.

So another extended hours period time.

That's where the person gets knifed after a fight.

So my question is this.

It says in the detailed report, the PA 33, that the Denny's security guard that police spoke with on scene after the incident stated he didn't witness the incident.

However, security cameras show him on scene at the time of the incident.

It also says in the last paragraph, I asked if I could have contact information for the head manager.

However, she refused.

Should be noted, however, in later camera footage, the security guard appeared to pick up an item from the parking lot close to the incident location.

That leads me to think there isn't uh cooperation there, and there's an attempt to cover things up.

Um the same manager, neither of which are one of these two said she didn't know what happened in the first incident and kind of repeated that story in the second incident when it seemed like there were um circumstances indicating that maybe she did.

So all that is cause for concern.

Do you have security on site and have um for the security you do?

Um, what steps are you taking to make sure they're cooperating with the police?

Because it certainly sounds like in incident 45, they weren't only not cooperating but were trying to hide something.

Um I will speak about the one 41 first.

Um, when it that group entered the building, they did to get real far, they were asked to leave because they were very loud and destructive already.

Um so they were, you know, asked to leave, and when they got outside is when they started to um, you know, get visible between the two doors, and then they were um, you know, by security directed to go outside, and then um that's when the I I guess the shots were fired as the visit as the vehicles were leaving.

Um the police, you know, were called obviously dispatched prior.

Um when they started getting disruptive as security was trying to remove them from the building.

Um so you know, and when they asked for footage, you know, that was that was given.

Can I ask a quick question?

We didn't know until uh we know we didn't know that they had guns and such.

Yeah, it says in the police report that um uh as more people came in uh to join the group at 3 a.m.

a fight amongst the group occurred.

At this time the manager uh Kindle's manager identified as April Gutierrez, instructed Kindle to call the police, and then it said Kindle then observed the group move into the parking lot and continue fighting.

That makes it sound like the fight was already taking place in the restaurant.

It was taking place between the vestibule.

So we have three doors.

There's two doors, a vestibule area, and then the another door there then you come into the restaurant itself.

The um altercation happened between the two doors in the vestival.

Um, and I can speak for that because I, you know, I did watch the video before I had to uh send it to the police.

Um I did follow it up with the security company.

Um I felt that you know that the guard probably should have um been the one to um you know handle a little bit better about getting them outside and andor call for help because he can call for backup.

And um, so I did speak to the owner, and that guard was um that was the last time he was on premise.

We then we're given another security guard.

And then with respect to 45.

45, that was um, you know, very interesting.

There was four women.

They came in, um, they ordered to go.

Um two of the females left when they got their to-go bags the other two left you know shortly later they got out to the car and um that's when they got to an altercation with each other and I guess a you know from my understanding a knife was pulled um and then they all got in the car and left together so um nobody knew it was going on until after the fact because a customer came in who was um coming or I guess he was he was either leaving or coming I can't remember honest but he was out in his car and he came in to let them know after the car left that he had seen the altercation happen on that we that's what the security guard went outside.

Um and what about what I pointed out in the police report that it said the security guard stated he didn't witness the incident however security camera shows him on the scene during the incident and also shows him appear to pick up an item from the parking lot close to the incident location.

From my understanding you know we didn't witness it because we weren't we didn't know it was happening outside.

So he didn't witness the altercation happen.

When he went outside and you know again I you know contacted the owner's security company and um you know he we discussed the after we got the police report that um his officer may have or picked up something um he said he was going to um talk to them um the police department investigator of it and so and and handle it from there with his um security guard and he if I'm not mistaken he then was not back with us um after that.

So in your opinion the security guard may have exercised poor judgment picked up something from the lot not immediately given it to police but I think yeah I'm not I can't speak a hundred percent but I believe yes it was done poor judgment and you know if there is any situation with the security guard I mean I I have no problem calling the owner and he's works very well with me and or even my manager if we have any situations we don't feel that we're getting the security that we should be getting um and he either comes in himself then and does a few shifts and or he will send somebody else and then do follow-up.

He has things into place and if his people don't follow you know his protocol of if there are altercate situations or there's police contact you know they are supposed to um you know let him know um if he needs backup or they need backup they're supposed to call um you know that that protocol's all set into place but again you know if they don't just like you know if my employees don't do the right thing it's you know we then handle it from there.

Yeah and I'll just note that it's it's very uncommon to have shots fired and people knifed on 27th Street there.

So um this definitely stands out as some incidents that cause great concern especially the securities reaction to the thank you it was interesting to see both of them because I think I said the the um the weapon one was um interesting that they all seem fine inside and then I guess they you know weren't so okay do you have any other questions on respect?

No thank you.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify.

Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present who wish to testify this is in the 13th auto magistrate Butterman Spiker.

Uh thank you madam chair yeah I mean I am disturbed by the incidents that happened here and it's fine to fire security guards after they exercise that judgment, but then the damage is done um I would definitely um want the the leadership here to meet with MPD to go over their um policies and practices here.

Um and so uh I guess my ask would be whether the applicant would be willing to hold this item, get a provisional until um we can ensure that you've met with MPD and the business district on scene and discussed um these types of incidents and the challenges you're having um after midnight during the extended hours.

Absolutely.

Okay, thank you.

Could you please reach out to my office then and supply um your contact information?

I have Mr.

Durods, but I don't believe I have the other managers, so could you reach out to me?

Send me an email and we'll get something on the box.

I did reach out in January as you had asked us to um on January 6th and received a response from Jarrett uh Litcher, I believe, on January 8th, and he was going to um that all up, and then I never really heard back from him.

So it's just one of the other jobs, so okay.

Yeah, I just want to know that we did reach out and we did try to open the communication and it just kind of um um that left.

So, okay.

If you send me an email, we'll get going on it.

Thanks.

Absolutely.

We'll definitely just reply back to all of them that were on that email that he had, and uh which was you, Michael Ward.

Um, Fabian Garcia, I believe, is also on there.

Those are people that we can reach out to.

Yep, if you get me, okay.

Good.

Thanks.

Definitely will.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We're in committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Before we go to a motion, Madam Chair.

Was there a what's the disciplinary history of the license?

Uh, you do your committee sworn in real quick.

Yes, I'm sorry, Jim Cohen.

Do you see your friend on the defense of penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it to the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Uh it was granted in 2025.

It was suspended in 2024 for 15 days.

Uh excuse me, the 24 hours license was suspended in 2024 for 15 days based on uh the police report and testimony.

And then warning letter in 22.

Uh was granted in 23, 22, and got a warning letter in 22 and was granted without incident going back years after.

So we've had progressive discipline resulting in a 15 day suspension of the extended hours license, yeah.

At the last renewal.

Uh year before last.

Yeah before last.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, and obviously, if that's the committee's wish, that's fine too.

There's a couple of ways to motivate.

Okay.

We are in committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Did you want to make a motion?

Make a motion.

Uh just over.

Okay.

Hold it and responsible.

Yes, I will move for a 30-day suspension of the extended hours license.

Could you clarify what you want to do with the food license too, please?

And then the reasons.

A threat to help the safety and welfare of the public, um, etc.

The shootings, um, fights, stabbings, and etc.

And automatic testimony.

And failure to comply with the plan of operation.

Yes, failure to complain or come up with the plan operation.

So motion by Otterman Jackson is a 30-day suspension of the extended hours license based on the preponderance of ever the evidence that shows the operation of provenance evidence by in the automatic testimony um and the police report.

That demonstrates that the that the operation results in a threat to the health safety and welfare of the public and failure to comply with the approved plan of operations.

Is there an objection to that motion?

Is there anything else we can have edited security or uh uh?

Uh Mr.

Durat, we're in committee, so um, no.

Uh so the motion, um Chair.

See no objections, so order.

Thank you.

It seems as though the committee is leaning towards separate action on the extended hours and food license, so it could make a motion for the food license as well.

You're making that motion too.

Well, I thought the motion was renewal of the food license and renewal with a 30-day suspension of the extended hours.

I may have missed that.

Um, in 2024, the committee uh suspended just the extended hours license.

Wasn't clear to me if it's clear to this body that that's what it wants to do with the food license.

That's that's fine.

Okay.

Uh yes, for the record.

So move renewal.

With the suspension of extended hours for 30 days, okay.

So is that both licenses or just the renewal of the food license and a 30-day suspension for the extended hours license?

Okay.

So the motion by Alderman Jackson is renewal of the food license and sus 30-day suspension of the extended hours license.

Due to, based upon the preponderance of evidence uh in the police report and automatic testimony that demonstrates the operation results in a threat health threat to the health safety and welfare of the public and a failure to comply with the approved plan of operations.

Are there any objections to that motion?

Hearing and singing on cell order uh city attorney.

The committee will be completing a report of its findings of fact and conclusions of law recommending to the Milwaukee Common Council that your extended hours license be renewed but with a 30-day suspension.

You will receive a copy of that report.

You will have the opportunity to file written exceptions to that report.

If you do file written exceptions, they must be received by the city clerk by June 17th.

If you submit written exceptions, you will also have the opportunity to appear before the Milwaukee Common Council when it considers this matter on June 23rd in the Common Council Chambers of City Hall.

Please be further advised that this report is a recommendation to the full common council.

The full common council makes the final determination whether your license will be renewed, renewed with a suspension, or non-renewed.

Do you understand?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next up on our 1045 AM agenda, Besnick S.

Abbas Abaski.

Oh no.

I have Abobsky.

Abowski.

Agent for Illyra LLC, massage establishment license application for Illyria at 2607 West Morgan.

Is Besnick Abaski present?

Yes, can you hear me?

Yes.

Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Yes.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Justine Kabasovsky, 1308 Monroe Avenue, South Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53172.

Miss Lopez, are there any hold?

No holds.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 10, 1517, the applicant was charged with OWI and Milky County Circuit Court.

On 9518, they were convicted and license was revoked for seven months.

Does the committee have any questions about the police report?

Honor Miss Fiker, do you have any questions about the police report?

No.

I want to ask them if you want to.

Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?

No.

Um have not had any uh any other uh traffic citations since then.

Okay, thank you.

Uh this is this is not new or it.

Oh, it is no.

Okay, uh, this is a new business.

Can you please tell us about your experience and your plan for the business?

Yes, so um I've been in in business before, uh, had a transportation company, um, did very well there, uh, excelled in customer service, uh, great communication, understanding what my customers wanted and needed.

Uh I held that business for approximately three years.

I got out of that business due to change in uh economic conditions and uh future uh challenges in the market.

Um I do hold a bachelor's degree and a master's degree uh from local universities.

Uh so I do have a solid understanding of business, uh, solid business ethics came in, understanding uh what the community needs, uh what uh I would like for the community members.

Um I've been involved in health and fitness essentially uh all my life.

Uh ran track in high school, uh, play multiple different sports all the way up until now.

Um regular gym attendee.

I do participate in other wellness, uh sauna, uh massage stretch, uh those types of items, um, through various different uh organizations around the community um looking to offer those similar uh services to the the surrounding area, uh promoting wellness and health.

Uh I believe that fits well for that location as there's a salon and um I believe beauty uh right next door.

Uh so I'm interested in providing a very um solid holistic uh environment for um customers to come in um and have uh sports therapy or um traditional massage there with homeopathic oils, uh future uh looking at red light uh sauna.

Uh that I don't have that just yet, but that would be down the line.

And uh if I can, as well as uh cold plunge therapy as well to do uh contrast therapy.

Thank you.

Does the committee have any plan any uh questions about his plan experience?

Any questions about his plan experience?

Uh I guess I have a question.

Uh so we've had an opportunity to speak by phone.

Um can you remind me how many Masseuses you plan to have in the establishment?

I thought it was a relative and her sister, and you would just seeing the business side of things.

Yes, so two.

Um and then uh uh based on your recommendations on hours.

I uh will adjust those hours from uh I have 9 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

seven days a week, uh adjust those to 10 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

Um additional staffing requirements, seven days a week, yes, sir.

So that's 63 hours a week.

So you plan to is this going to be by appointment or are you planning to just have people standing there with a lot of people?

No, no, uh walk-in and appointment, preferably appointment, but walk-ins available.

Okay, alright, thank you.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.

Madam Chair, if there's an amendment for the hours, necessary.

I don't know if that's reflected in the application or not.

Um, Mr.

Voskey, would you like to amend your application to reflect being open from 10 to 7, seven days a week?

Uh yes.

Yeah, okay.

Uh Otterman Jackson uh makes an amendment um that the plan of operation is changed to be operating from 10 to 7, 10 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

Monday through Sunday.

Uh hearing no objections, so order.

I think I'm on spider part.

Um, I know it's the hours for me.

Uh 10 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

Okay, seven days a week.

Thank you.

And this is in the 13th Automatic District, Automas Spiker.

Um, I have no objection given the change in hours and the clarification about the staffing.

Okay.

Thank you.

We are in committee, just commit you have a motion.

Move approval as amended.

Motion by Ottoman Bergellis is approval as amended, hearing anything and saying no objections, so ordered.

Thank you.

Thank you, committee.

Thank you, council.

Oh, okay.

All right, 10 150.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam.

Thanks, Chair.

We'll move on now to our 1050 AM agenda item.

Hi Ginjin Park.

Agent for Sunja's Seoul Pocha LLC.

Class B tavern and Food Dealer Licenses application for Sunja's Seoul Pocha at 839 West National Avenue.

Is Hygiene Park present?

All right.

Good morning.

And I see we have President Bettes here in person in the room.

If the two of you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you sound here from the defense and penetration burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give?

Is it true the whole truth and of him with the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

I do.

Thank you both.

All right.

Ms.

Park, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I did.

Thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

Address is A39 West National Avenue, Milwaukee.

Thank you.

Okay, Ms.

Lopez.

Are there any holds?

Hold for inspection and hold for occupancy.

Okay.

And Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On 1215 18, the applicant was charged with OWI in New Berlin municipal court on 4.319.

Uh was convicted and license was revoked for eight months.

Okay, and would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

Yes.

Go right ahead.

So yeah, good morning.

Thank you for the giving me an opportunity to speak today about my um OWI.

And it's about seven years ago.

Uh there was the Christmas party, and uh around that time my mom's had a diagnosis of cancer, so I was like pretty depressed and then there was the biggest mistake I ever make in my life.

Um, yeah, so but um I had a restaurant called the Seoul Korean restaurant uh in Milwaukee.

It's 2178 uh North Prospect Avenue uh near the UWM from 2007 to 2022, which is a let me stop you.

I can stop you right there.

I just want your comments on the police report, so and that's perfect, and then we can go back and hear about your experience.

Oh, okay, sure.

So I'll just pause here.

Are there any questions for Ms.

Park on the police report from committee members?

Are there any questions from Alderman Bettez on the police report?

No, okay, very good.

Um, all right, it is a new application, and I know Ms.

Park, you were gonna tell us it sounded like you wanted to tell us a little bit about your experience and your plan for the business.

Please go right ahead.

Yeah, um I had experience of 15 years of the Korean restaurant in the past is five years ago.

Um my mom's um in the mean of mean time, and uh she had a diagnosis around the time that I had OWI.

Um, but she passed away five years ago.

I mean, no, uh three years ago.

Yeah, so we closed the restaurant and in five years since I uh stopped uh running the business, and I uh start working as a teacher in MPS.

Uh it's been uh five years, and also I pursued a master degree, and uh a couple of weeks ago I finished my doctoral degree of the leadership of education.

So OWI is a really ruined my reputation and everything goes well in my life, and then that one night I had I had a biggest mistake, and also this almost full responsibility is going through towards me, and then I still feel bad about what happened.

Uh but so far um I found this place and then I feel really good about and very confident about everything that I is fit perfect to the restaurant.

So I starts um I I wanna open really like heartfelt, really need to be there.

I really wanna do it.

So um yeah.

And so far, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Let's pa very good.

Thank you for that.

Any further questions from committee members for the applicant?

Any questions from Alderman Betis at this time?

Um, no, I I we I did have a conversation with uh the applicant, I was really excited.

We did talk about her amending her hours on Friday and Saturday to midnight.

I wanted to make sure that that was either done or she can do it now if she'd like to.

Okay for our conversation.

License division, can you speak to that for Alderman Bettes?

Did she amend her hours?

We have no amendments on file, and we have no amendments on file, so the hours for Friday and Saturday, the close time is one AM.

Okay, and um would you like to amend was there a conversation, Ms.

Park to amend the application?

Yeah, uh we're gonna uh I talk to Alderman and then I definitely wanna adjust the time and uh because of the our um restaurant close the street, there's a gas stations too, but I just wanna community safety and everything and I don't wanna any causing any of uh trouble or anything on my anything.

So anything what you require I would follow.

So I um wanna change the hour to uh from four to ten from the Monday through Thursday, Friday and Saturday is the four to eleven.

So Sunday we close.

That's what we gotta do.

Wait, so what what I'm sorry, yep.

We spoke in uh Friday and Saturday was midnight.

Friday and Saturday midnight?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's what we had a conversation of.

She w I just want to be clear that's what we spoke of.

If she wants to change it from that, then she wants to close earlier, that's on her, but midnight was the conversation we had.

Would you like to close at midnight on Friday and Saturday?

Yeah, I can do that.

Yeah, I think it's uh di yeah.

So once I open it and then I just wanna fill it, and um if it can be eleven or twelve.

And then what is the Sunday through Thursday hours?

Uh Ms.

Lopez.

We close let me let license division answer, please.

Sure, sure.

Currently what we have on file for the hours is closed on Sunday, and then Monday through Thursday it's open at four p.m.

and close at eleven p.m.

Okay, and that's it.

Okay.

So will um Alderman Jackson, do you wanna make the amendment for the applicant?

Madam Chair, can I get clarification on the hours?

Because she did list Monday through Thursday of four to ten and then Friday, Saturday, four to eleven.

So if she can please confirm what the hours will be.

Yeah, so I would do the f uh Monday through Thursday, four to ten, Friday and Saturday is uh I let's do the eleven thirty.

Sorry about that.

Okay.

Is that what?

So there was a full change then on this?

Yes.

So the hours from what I'm understanding is her hours are gonna be now Monday through Thursday, 4 p.m.

until 10 p.m.

Friday and Saturday, 4 p.m.

until 11 30 p.m.

But why did it why are you uh I'm sorry, licensed division.

Didn't you say 11 p.m.?

Did you did you say you saw 10 p.m.

somewhere?

Or what she mentioned earlier.

Oh, okay.

I'm I needed a clarification on what the hours were gonna be.

She is now stating that her hours are Monday through Thursday, four to ten, Friday, Saturday, four to eleven thirty p.m.

All right.

Is that that what you'd like to do, Miss Park?

Yes.

Go ahead.

Uh, minimum hours changed.

Um, four to ten throughout the week, Monday through Thursday, and four to eleven thirty, Friday and Saturday.

All right.

Um, Alderman Jackson moves to make that amendment.

Uh, adjusting the hours and hearing no objections, so ordered.

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

All right, we're in the twelfth Aldermanic District.

I have no objection.

But uh with the um uh the license as amended.

All right.

Alderman Jackson moves to approve as amended and hearing no objections so ordered.

We'll move on.

Um good luck, Ms.

Park.

Oh, they passed committee.

Yes, on the common council.

I will make it the really, really good restaurant.

You guys all come over.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right, we'll move on to our ten fifty five AM agenda item.

John A.

Urban, agent for Lay Cabaret Inc., Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Door Licenses Renewal Application for Texas J's at eight thirteen South First Street.

Good morning.

All right.

Council, do you wanna introduce yourself?

Good morning, Madam Chair members.

I'm attorney David Halbrooks.

Very good.

And then will you two raise your right hand?

We'll get you sworn in right away.

And if you put the truth, I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And will you each state your name and address for the record?

4935 garnits under Waterford, Wisconsin, 53185.

Ryan Urban Sixty Three Thirty One Riverside Road, Waterford, Wisconsin, 53185.

All right.

And I noticed she he said yes to the question.

Is that sufficient?

Uh yeah, we should get a affirmation by the actual applicant or the license agent or the council.

So you want to see it.

You're in receipt.

Okay.

Okay.

Very good.

Thank you, Council.

All right.

Uh Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

On seven twenty-two twenty-five at seven fifteen p.m.

Walkie police conducted a license premise check.

Assisting in this assignment were special agents from Wisconsin Department of Revenue, um, alcohol and tobacco.

This was due to holds on their license regarding outstanding balances owed to wholesalers.

The businesses agreed to close for the night and a check on seven twenty-three twenty-five revealed balances had been paid and the license was issued.

On three eighteen twenty-six at one twenty-five AM, Walker police were dispatched to a theft.

Investigation revealed a patron's vehicle was towed due to parking on the employee parking lot.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Uh yes, just briefly.

The um I'll the the second one is uh a parking lot that's not part of the licensed premises.

It's got many signs saying Texas J's parking.

Um a customer of Stanny's parked there.

He got towed, and then you reported his car stolen.

That's the sum total of what happened.

So he parked where he shouldn't have.

Um it's not part of it it's it's a separate lot.

It's on second street and it was just a toll and on uh parking on private property.

Um the second one, um was just more confusion because of the licenses not lining up, and I think um they can explain a little bit if you have more questions, but it simply was just a problem um with the timing of the licenses, and it got uh I don't think even the enforcement people there that night were expecting the club to close, but they said we'll take care of it tomorrow morning, and they did.

Very good, thank you.

Questions, just let me that's why we're here today.

And um the president um last time suggested we come back to line up all the licenses.

Okay, thank you.

Questions on the police report from committee members at this time?

Questions from Alderman Betis?

All right.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify in this item today?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We're in the twelfth Aldermanic District, Alderman Betis.

I have no objection.

Very good.

Alderman Peter Brigelis moves for approval.

Okay, thank you.

And hearing no objection, so ordered.

Good work.

Thank you.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

All right, we'll move on now to our 11 a.m.

agenda item.

Megan M.

Miles, agent for station eighteen forty-six LLC, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, Food Dealer, and Sidewalk Dining Licenses, renewal application for station eighteen forty six at two fifteen West Bruce Street.

Hi.

Hi there.

Good morning.

All right.

Megan, will you raise your right hand?

We'll get you sworn in.

Do you solve the affirm on the dependence and penalty subverger of the state of Wisconsin that the testament we're about to give?

Is it true the whole truth?

Nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.