Present.

Chambers.

Alderman Chambers.

He was just here.

Excused.

Brauer.

Here.

Bauman.

Westmoreland.

Here.

Cogs.

Present.

Jackson.

Zamaripa.

Here.

Taylor.

Here.

Moore.

Present.

Bergelis.

Spiker.

Here.

Dmitrie Evich.

Here.

Stamber.

Alderman Chambers.

Mr.

President.

Present.

Fifteen members are present.

Fifty members present.

Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance to be followed by a moment of silent meditation.

I pledge allegiance.

And to the Republic for which she stands one nation.

Yes.

Are there any corrections to the Common Council Journal proceedings for the meetings of March 3rd, 2026?

There are no corrections to the journal.

There being no corrections to the journal.

Oh, excuse me.

There being no corrections to the minutes of this meeting stand approved.

Alder Woman Malayle A.

Coggs now moves that the Common Council resolve itself into the committee of the whole for the purpose of making a number of presentations.

Hearing, no objection, so ordered.

Since 1987, March has been established as Woman History Month.

In recent years, the Common Council has chosen to honor local women who embody the spirit of this observation.

The 2024 election represented a new high watermark for the representation of women on the council, and each of our four female members has chosen a constituent to honor today.

Will all the members of the Common Council, their honores, please come forward and gather to my left.

Well, Miss Jamila Benson, please come forward, escorted by Malele A.

Cox.

Okay.

We'll do one presentation at a time.

I'm sorry.

Stand by me.

Alder Woman Pratt, the floor is yours.

Good morning.

It is truly an honor to stand before you as we celebrate Women's History Month and recognize a woman whose work reflects the very best of public service and community commitment.

She began her career in the private sector as a deputy director with Lockheed Martin, a role that speaks to her leadership, discipline, and expertise.

But when the opportunity took her away from Milwaukee, when the opportunity took her away from Milwaukee, she made a choice that defines who she is.

She chose to come back home and serve her community.

And sir, she did.

She helped move forward policies, strengthen constituent services, and ensure that the voices of Milwaukee residents were heard and respected.

But what makes her work especially meaningful is not just the title she's held, it is the impact she has made.

She has consistently focused on connecting people to their government, making city services more accessible, and building trust between residents and city hall.

That kind of work often happens behind the scenes, but isn't but it is essential to a strong, responsive and equitable city.

She has served as a mayor as a liaison to uh Mayor Johnson and she continues to bridge gaps and strengthen relationships moving Milwaukee forward.

She represents the spirit of women's history month, leadership without ego, service without spotlight, and an impact that reached far beyond what we can always see.

So today we don't just honor her career, we honor her commitment to people, her belief in community, and her unwavering dedication to the city we all call home.

Please join me in celebrating our Lisa McHenry, example of excellence, service, and the power of Jesus.

Thank you.

Well, Miss Jamila Benson, please come forward, escorted by all the women in Balele A.

Cox.

Good morning.

Morning.

Come on now.

We are celebrating women's history month.

So I know we got a little more energy than that.

Let's try it again.

Good morning.

Good morning.

All right.

Today, as we were asked to think of a woman to celebrate for this women's history month, I thought long and hard.

There are countless women who do so many great things in my district and in this city that I could have selected.

But this year, I thought it very poignant to select Miss Jamila Benson.

Jamila is one of my sister friends.

She is, she is actually one of my newbian sisters.

An organization at I think at the age of 14, a group of us uh created to help educate and entertain through cultural um exercises, um, our community.

Uh whether it was Kwanzaa, Juneteenth, or African World Festival, um, we used our talents and our knowledge and our upbringing and all that our parents and community poured into us to help elevate and educate our community.

Throughout the years, uh, we continue to support one another and pour into community.

And many of you may know her through the work of her father, who was Clyborn Benson, um, who runs Wisconsin Black Historical Museum.

But what some might not know is that shoulder to shoulder with Mr.

Benson every single day in the Wisconsin Black Historical Society Museum, keeping those doors open, those exhibits going, and the programming that helps to educate, elevate, as well as help um people of African descent um in Wisconsin to record, track um, and research the history of our people in this state, is the program director, Ms.

Jamila Benson.

Yes.

Yes.

At a time in this nation where diversity is not being appreciated, at a time in this nation where our culture, people of African descent in this country, um, is attempting to be erased.

It is even more critical that we continue to tell our stories, that we continue to record and document our history, and that we share the ability to do that with others.

Um Jamila Benson is at the forefront of that with the Wisconsin Black Historical Museum.

So I love Jamila as a sister.

Um, but I thought in this moment, um, she is the embodiment of I think what we're celebrating here for women's history month.

And I thank her for all that she does, not just for African Americans, um, not just for black folks in the city of Milwaukee or the state of Wisconsin, but as a keeper of our history um for the world.

Um, without um further ado, congratulations to Jamila Benson for this women's um history month um citation.

I'm just gonna read the end with this citation says, whereas uh Jamila Benson, in addition to her role at the Wisconsin Black Historical Society Museum, serves as the Wisconsin Council for Local History and has contributed her expertise to several boards dedicated to historic preservation and youth development.

Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Common Council of the City of Milwaukee herewith recognizes Jamila Benson as a 2026 Women's History Month honoree and commends her for her positive contributions to the community and wishes her continued success in all her future pursuits and be referred to resolved that a suitably engrossed copy of this resolution be presented to Jamila Benson, introduced by all common council members.

Before I hand this to her, I do want to say this.

Jamila is a behind the scenes person.

Um she's the person who helps make everything go, but usually does not enjoy being recognized.

Um I appreciate you being willing to be recognized for all that you do.

There we go.

Well, Miss Amanda Awelos, please come forward, escorted by all the person, Jocasta Samaripa.

All right, good morning, everyone.

And happy women's history month.

My honoree is an amazing human named Amanda Avalos.

And Amanda's not uh was not born here in Wisconsin.

She's a flatlander, um, and she made her way um to Milwaukee and to the great state of Wisconsin by way of Marquette, and she got she studied there and at UWM as well.

Or just Markette.

Um, but she's definitely a Marquette, a proud Marquette girl, and um she fell in love with the city of Milwaukee when she moved here for school, and I'm so proud and honored that she is one of those young professionals that we hope will make their home here in Milwaukee and in Wisconsin and not leave to other parts of this country.

And she not only stayed here, studied here, got her degree here, but she in fact made her home here.

She found a wife here, a good Milwaukee Southside girl.

In fact, she's right over there in the audience with their daughter, Nanice Rodriguez, and Alice, their little girl.

Um, they have made their home here in our state and in our city, and Amanda is committed to the betterment of our of our communities.

Um, she served as a commissioner on our police and fire commission, and um I want to thank her for her leadership.

I hope that her work here at the city and in City Hall will continue for a long time.

Um, and with with that, I want to present uh Amanda with this um commendation as one of our 2026 women's women's history month honorees.

Gracias Amanda.

Will Miss Annette Jackson please come forward, escorted by an older woman Larissa Taylor.

Good morning.

So today I'd like to um present our uh recognition for women's history month to Annette Jackson.

Uh Annette Jackson represents um what the city is all about.

Um she brings a lot of joy to um work with her.

She enjoys each position that she's held over the nine years with the city of Milwaukee.

Uh, and she brings a smile to the face of those that she serve um through her employment here.

Uh she has um the best that I've seen her at what she does for the city is when she was recognized by visit uh for um just who she is for the smile that she brings um to the job, and also because she serves and dances with the bucks.

So, and I don't know if you don't want to give her a hand clap for that, but I think that's a big deal.

Uh and so um, and so she was the center of one of the commercials uh to show and embrace what the city of Milwaukee has to offer uh to its residents.

And I I just thought that was um an exceptional uh recognition to receive.

And so I thought it was fitting that we um recognize Annette Jackson for the nine years of service that she has given to us uh and the joy that she's bringing that she brings to all of those that come in contact with her.

So Annette Jackson will present to you the City of Milwaukee award, um, which here it says um, whereas Annette Jackson's leadership, and I'm just gonna read a small part, role as an executive director of tomorrow's leader, um, I'm sorry, leaders learning center and program supervisor at YMCA also.

So she does a lot outside of Milwaukee, outside of her employment to prioritize youth development display commitment to community service outside of her professional career and her desire to improve Milwaukee for everyone.

Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Common Council does recognize Annette Jackson as a 2026 Women's History Month.

Thank you.

Will Miss Natalia Renteria please come forward, escorted by Alderwoman Charlotte Moore.

Good morning and happy women's history month.

My name is Charlotte Moore, and I am so honored and privileged to nominate Miss Natalia Rentiria, and I call her, we affectionately, people that know her affectionately call her Nat.

Um, and um, and I want to say this is such an interesting story for me because me and Nat knew each other before me and Nat knew each other.

Um, as many of you know, I um co-founded an organization called Urban Underground, and we had a young person that was in Urban Underground that just had some challenges.

You know, he was always connected, he was a people's person.

He he was always connecting with people, you know.

But there were times where he found himself um unhoused, and somehow Nat got connected, um, and I'll say his name because he's here today, Farrakhan.

Nat got connected with Farrakhan and Farrakhan and Nat opened up her home to Farrakhan.

And Farrakhan would come and visit, you know, as he grew up.

Um he would when Urban Underground was on Fondalike, he would come and visit, you know, Urban Underground, you know, check in on me and and Reggie when you know he he had his time there, and we would ask, oh Farrakhan, where are you staying?

He was like, you know, Charlotte, that you know, the purple house on Sherman.

I said, Oh, you're still there.

And it was a home right by Alderman Stamper, down the not too far from Alder, down the street from Alderman Stampers, and I would pass the house literally every single day, dropping my kids off at school.

And I would look over at that big purple house.

It was the it was it was the brightest house, you know, on the block.

And for me, you all, for uh a woman to take some he Farrakhan was an adult.

Matt actually adopted him as an adult.

This woman's heart is so big that full circle comes around that we had an opportunity to connect and meet, and you know, when she tells the story, I just I'm blown away because all the things that she does for community and in community.

And Farrakhan isn't the only one, he's just one of many that um young people and young adults that she supported.

So I just wanted to read a snippet um of her bio because I am so honored to know amazing and grateful women that not only live in community, but love community.

They love what they do.

And so let me read a really quick snippet.

Natalia Rentieria is the founder and CEO of the Missing Peace Community Collective and a lifelong resident of Milwaukee's near West Side.

Raised in the Cold Spring neighborhood at 32nd in Juneau, she was shaped by a family legacy of more than 70 years of consistent community service, where helping others was a daily expectation, not a public statement.

Less than a mile from her childhood home is 3248 West Brown Street in Alderman Stanford's district.

Now the home of the Missing Peace Community Collective, where she has transformed that lived example into structured initiative focused on leadership development, violence prevention, peace building, and generational opportunity.

Natalia leads with conviction, builds with intention, and remains rooted in the belief that real change happens when those who come from a community choose to invest back into it.

So today we honor Natalia Rentiria as National Women's Day.

Well, we uh saved some yummy thoughts for last.

Who here has been to Lulu's in Bayview?

And if you've been to Lulu's, you've been to Bayview.

It's a staple.

Um, I don't know if you know when you're munching on that delicious slaw or blue chips.

Personally, I do half and half with the with the blue cheese sauce.

That's how we know if you're if you're from the neighborhood, if you know what to do there.

Um, do you know that that's been there for 25 years?

Here's a Bayview factoid before that.

Um it was a George Webbs, I believe, right?

Yeah, I think way back back in the day.

Well, behind those chips and slaw and great camaraderie is Cameron Roberts and Sarah Jonas, as you heard.

Um friends for three decades or more, and holding that business down for nearly twenty-five years this year, actually.

These two women have creativity, care, and commitment, and they've helped make Bayview what it is today, a special place that so many of us know and love.

Sarah and Cam began their partnership in 1999.

That was the year that I graduated from the wonderful Bayview High School.

We got a couple of red cats here.

We are very proud, everybody knows that.

Um, when they started a small Bayview catering company together.

They shared that vision and it grew into Cafe Lulu, which opened in 2001, and as I mentioned, has become a neighborhood institution.

It takes a lot of work to keep an institution going for 25 years.

For those two decades, they've served as chef owners and operators of Cafe Lulu.

It's not infrequent or unusual that you would go there and enjoy that delicious food and see one or two or both of them and their friends there holding it down.

And I do want to check in on chef, owner, and operator.

That is more than just calling in every once in a while.

They not only have created a successful restaurant, but a true gathering place for community.

Their hard work and excellent hospitality.

In fact, my family loves going there.

It's family-friendly, it's inclusive, and it's welcoming, which I believe is the true spirit of the Bayview community.

Sarah has a deep commitment to the culinary field.

It's reflected in her specialized training.

She has a bachelor's degree in culinary arts from the New England Culinary Institute and a culinary arts and hospitality management degree from MATC.

With Cam, she's helped shape a place that reflects the heart of Bayview, creative, vibrant, and deeply rooted.

We thank them for all that they've given to the neighborhood.

Imagine the hours and hours of time that they spent on the inside and outside to create that business.

A special part of our local economy, the jobs, just the stimulating everything around it and creating it as a corridor that is walkable and enjoyable.

It is such a privilege to rep rep recognize and celebrate both Cam and Sarah today.

I think that they provide an excellent example of investment in our neighborhoods that is long-lasting and is a welcoming place for all.

Congratulations and thank you very much.

Thank you.

It's always here.

I always have one.

I always have one.

That's why I didn't.

Congratulations and thank you.

I think on the behalf of the rest of us, um, I I think I just want to take a moment to thank and honor all the women in our lives that influence us, help us, agitate us when necessary, and appreciate all the efforts of my colleagues today.

With that in mind, Alder Woman Pratt now moves that the Common Council rise.

Yes, I do.

And hearing no objection, so ordered.

It's a love best.

Well, I know.

You came back quick.

You came back quick.

I can follow instructions.

Oh no, thank you.

Um the city clerk please inform the common council of any commendations or condolences to be acknowledged at this time.

Item one communication from the city clerk relating to various commendatory and condolatory resolutions to be acknowledged and affirmed by the Common Council.

One resolutions recognizing the following on being named 2026 Women's History Month honorees.

Two, resolution recognizing artist Roberto Lugo.

Three.

Resolution congratulating Smile Incorporated on the opening of its tier one branch location on the South Side.

Four.

Six.

Seven.

Resolution expressing condolences to the family and friends of Neil Bouden.

Eight.

Resolution expressing condolences to the family and friends of Michael Shane Hawthorne Sr.

Nine.

Resolution congratulating Christopher Craco on his retirement from the Department of Neighborhood Services.

Eleven.

Resolution congratulating Bargie Carbajal on her retirement from the Office of the Controller.

Twelve.

Resolution congratulating Gregory Bark Barake on his retirement from the Milwaukee Fire Department.

Thirteen.

Resolutions congratulating the following on their retirements from the Department of Public Works.

Daniel Field.

Fourteen.

Reginald Carthen.

Gerald Schmidt.

Are there any objections to the foreground commendations and condolences?

If anyone wishes to be added as a sponsor to any other commendations or condolences, please please pull out the form on your desk and submit it to the city clerk before the close of the work day.

The licenses committee recommends approval of item two, Common Council file number two five one eight six two.

Motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses.

Included in the file is the following recommendation.

Renewal with a 15-day suspension of the filling station food dealer and weights and measures license of F10 Sultan, based upon the preponderance of the evidence in the police report, Aldermanic applic app Aldermanic applicant and neighborhood testimony that demonstrates that the operation results in a threat to the health safety or welfare of the public and for the failure to comply with the approved plan of operation for the premises located at 2624 West Lisbon Avenue, doing business as Lisbon BP in the 15th Aldermanic District.

No written objections have been filed.

Have the members of the Common Council read the report and recommendations of the license committee as well as the objections filed in these matters.

Roll call, please.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Ms.

President.

Alder Point of Order.

Yeah, I had a community agreement operation plan to add to that.

To that last file.

Is that I don't know, Jim, did you just after the roll call?

I'll ask for any motions.

I think that's that'd be the appropriate presentation.

I don't know if Jim got it.

If Jim got it, we don't have to do that.

We'll confirm either way.

We'll get done with the roll call and get back to you.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

All right.

And again, the motion before the council is whether or not members have read the report and recommendations of the committee.

I have Alderwoman Pratt voting aye.

It is Alderman Chambers.

Excused.

Alderman Brower.

Aye.

Bauman.

Aye.

Westmoreland.

Aye.

Cogs.

Aye.

Jackson.

Aye.

Samaripa?

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Burgellis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dimitri Evich.

Stamper.

Aye.

Aye.

Alderman Chambers is aye.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

Fifty ayes.

Fifteen ayes.

Do we have an answer for Alderman Stamper before we go into any motions respected to these matters?

You have a motion.

We good.

Ms.

President.

Yes.

Yes, I think Dana has the assigned community agreement by the by the owner.

Just want to make sure it's part of the record and part of the operational plan.

Okay, so you can just make a motion to add that as part of the file.

Yes, sir.

I'll make the motion to add the community agreement with Midtown Alliance, part of and with um rooted and rising part of the file.

Okay.

No objections, so ordered order.

Thank you very much.

Uh there are any further discussion on any other motions related to any of the matters in the licensing.

Okay, hearing no further discussion, I would ask for a vote of the common council members to adopt the recommendations of the licenses as contained in file number two five one seven five six.

With a clerk, please call the roll.

And forgive me, Mr.

President, the correct file numbers two five one eight six two.

Okay.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brower.

Aye.

Bauman.

Aye.

Westmoreland.

Aye.

Cogs.

Jackson.

Aye.

Zamaripa?

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Or aye.

Burgelas.

Aye.

Spiker?

Aye.

Demetrievage?

Aye.

Stamper.

Aye.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

Fifteen ayes.

Fifteen ayes.

The committee report is adopted.

Alderwoman Malele A.

Cogs will now present the report of the Public Works Committee.

The Public Works Committee recommends approval of three motion relating to the recommendations of the Public Works Committee relating to licenses.

The Public Works Committee recommends passage of four.

In ordinance relating to the amendment to the official city map of the city of Milwaukee.

The public works committee recommends adoption of five.

Resolution approving a first amendment to the lease agreement with Tower Company 2013 LLC for a portion of the parcel located at 3929 South Sixth Street in the 13th Aldermanic District.

Six resolution relating to the construction, maintenance, and funding of Stellas Playground, Milwaukee's first universally accessible and inclusive playground.

Seven, substitute resolution authorizing an amendment to the water service agreement with the village of Menominee Falls.

Eight, resolution authorizing the Commissioner of Public Works to execute a first revision to a state municipal agreement for a transportation alternatives program project with Wisconsin Department of Transportation for the Hopkins Protected Bike Lane Project for a revision to the project limits.

Nine, resolution directing the Commissioner of Public Works to execute a document titled State Municipal Finance Agreement for a State-led Highway Project with Wisconsin Department of Transportation for the installation of non-participating temporary street lighting on State Highway 181, County Line Road to Mekwan Road, and to set up funds for construction at an estimated total cost of $80,500 with a 100% city share.

10.

Substitute resolution relating to approval of an intergovernmental cooperation agreement between the City of Milwaukee and the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District for the purpose of establishing the terms and conditions for the river skimmer operation from 2026 through 2035.

11 substitute resolution approving levying of assessments and construction of accessible public improvements projects at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes with the city cost of these projects approved by this resolution estimated to be $1,012,000 for a total estimated cost of $1,630,000.

12 substitute resolution determining it necessary to make various non-assessable public improvements at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes with the city engineering cost estimated to be two hundred and sixty-seven thousand dollars for a total estimated cost of these projects being one million five hundred and fifty-one thousand dollars.

Thirteen, substitute resolution approving construction of non-assessable public improvements at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes, with a city construction cost estimated to be 42,513,574 for a total estimated cost of these projects being $57,951,316.

14 resolution extending the active streets for businesses program.

15 resolution relating to the application, acceptance, and funding of a private property inflow and infiltration grant from the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewage District for a project in an area bounded by North 53rd Street, North 60th Street, and West Vienna Avenue to West Capitol Drive in the 7th Aldermanic District.

The Public Works Committee recommends placing on file 16 communication from the Department of Public Works relating to spring leaf collection.

Chair recognizes Alder Member Gellis.

Thank you.

No on seven, please.

Let the record reflect Alder Member Gellis being a no on number seven.

Any further discussion?

For the committee report.

Hearing none, Alderwoman Cogs moves for approval of the remainder of the report of the public works committee.

With a clerk please call the roll.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brower.

Aye.

Bauman.

Westmoreland.

Cogs.

Aye.

Jackson.

Samaripa.

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Brigelis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dmitrievich.

Aye.

Stamper.

Aye.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

15 eyes.

15 eyes.

The committee report is adopted.

Alderwoman Marina Dmitrievich will not present the report of the Finance and Personnel Committee.

The Finance of Personnel Committee recommends passage of 17.

A substitute ordinance relating to employee wages, benefits, and regulations.

18.

An ordinance relating to city wage requirements for service contracts.

19.

A substitute ordinance to further amend the 2026 race of pay of offices and positions in the city service.

40.

A substitute ordinance to further amend the 2026 offices and positions in the city service.

The Finance of Personnel Committee recommends adoption of 21.

Substitute resolution to ratify and confirm the final agreement between the City of Milwaukee and the Milwaukee Police Supervisors Organization.

22.

Resolution approving an agreement between the Milwaukee Police Department and Milwaukee Worlds Festival Incorporated regarding extra duty police services.

23.

Substitute resolution relating to the acceptance and funding of the 2026 STD Infertility Prevention Grant from the State of Wisconsin Department of Health Services.

24.

Substitute resolution authorizing the Department of Employer Relations to extend the current three-year contract with MetLife for administration of the city's voluntary benefits for short-term disability.

Accident and critical illness insurance for one additional year.

The Finance of Personnel Committee recommends confirmation of 25.

Appointment of Danielle Rodriguez to serve as the Department of Administration Director by the Mayor.

The Finance of Personnel Committee recommends placing on file.

26.

Communication from the Department of Employer Relations relating to classification studies scheduled for City Service Commission Action.

27.

Communication from the Controller's Office relating to an audit of the Department of Neighborhood Services Financial Administration.

28, communication for the Department of Employer Relations, amending the salary ordinance relating to the rates of pay for a battalion chief fire, deputy chief, fire, and assistant fire chief.

29, communication relating to the report of audit finding follow-up for the year ended December 31st, 2025.

30.

Communication from the Department of Public Works relating to the revenue received from the towing of vehicles owned by habitual parking violators.

Chair recognizes Alderwoman Dmitrievich.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I want to remain consistent with my no vote on item 21.

And the reason for that is just financial considerations similar to the MPA contract.

I have questions about the future fiscal health of the City of Milwaukee when it relates to some of these contracts.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Let the record reflect no one twenty-one.

Alderwoman Dimitrievich.

Let the record reflect an abstention on item 25.

Let the record reflect that I'm a no on item 252519A3.

Chair recognizes Alderwoman Cogs.

I would like to be recorded as an abstention for item 21.

Let the record reflect abstention by Alderman Cox for item 21.

Chair recognizes Aldermember Gellis.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh during committee we had a uh shortage of people, and I had offered a substitute for item 18.

Uh as such, it was not moved and it was not uh put before the committee.

Uh I don't think it's serious enough to warrant uh a substitute from the floor, but I will ask to be recorded as a no for 18.

Let the record reflect uh no for item 18.

Chair recognizes Alderman Westmoreland.

Never mind.

Thank you.

Let the uh chair recognizes Alderman Taylor.

Uh yes, uh thank you, Mr.

President.

I'd like to be recorded as an abstention for number 21.

Let the record reflect an abstention for item 21.

Alderman Taylor.

No more.

Any further discussion hearing none, Alderwoman Dimitrievich moves for adoption.

Mr.

Chairman.

Uh Chair recognizes Alderman Brower.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Sorry, Mr.

President.

Um, I'd like to be recorded as a no for M21, please.

Okay.

Uh let the record reflect no for item 21.

What is it?

Right.

Is it that's only two, correct?

Two and okay.

All right.

Let the record reflect uh a no for item twenty-one, Alderman Brower.

Any further discussion of the committee report?

Hearing none, Alderwoman Dimitrievich moves for adoption of the recommendations of the Finance and Personnel Committee.

With the clerk please call the roll.

Alder Woman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brower.

Aye.

Alman.

Aye.

Westmoreland.

Aye.

Cogs.

Aye.

Jackson.

Samaripa.

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Burgellis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dmitrie Evich.

Aye.

Stamper.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

59.

59 said committee report is adopted.

Alderman DeAndre Jackson will not present the report of the Judiciary and Legislation Committee.

The Judiciary and Legislation Committee recommends adoption of 31.

Substitute resolution relating to a legislative bill.

32.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Jeffrey Dinkins.

33.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Fred Miller.

34.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Mary Lou Sievert.

35.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Robert and Catherine Adamas.

36.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Harold Janice.

37.

Resolution authorizing the denial of claims for alleged unlawful and alleged excessive tax assessment filed to the City of Milwaukee.

38.

Resolution authorizing settlement of the lawsuit entitled Robert Mercado versus the City of Milwaukee and others.

39.

Resolution reserving and appropriating up to 125,000 from the 2026 Common Council Contingent Fund to the 2026 Damage and Claims Fund Special Purpose Account and authorizing the settlement of the lawsuit entitled Barry Beverly versus the City of Milwaukee.

40.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Kevin Dudley.

41.

Resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Pang Tao and West Bend Mutual Insurance Company.

42, resolution authorizing payment of the claim of Vincent and Paulette Walfert Wallert, forgive me, and Progressive Home Insurance Company.

43, substitute resolution amending the city of Milwaukee State Legislative Package to express support for state legislation making illegal tire dumping a misdemeanor crime and providing penalty enhancements.

And the Judiciary and Legislation Committee recommends disallowance and a definite postponement of items 44 through 49 claims against the city.

Any further discussion of the committee report?

Hearing none, Alderman Jackson moves for adoption of the recommendation of Judiciary and Legislative Legislation Committee.

I mean the co-sponsor item number 43.

Thank you.

Okay, let the record reflect co-sponsorship of item number 43.

Alderman Chambers.

Any further discussion?

Any further discussion?

Hearing none, please call a roll.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brower.

Aye.

Bauman.

Westmoreland.

Aye.

Cox.

Aye.

Jackson.

Samaripa.

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Bergellis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Petrievich.

Stanford.

All right.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

59s.

59 is a committee report is adopted.

Alderman Scott Spiker will now present the report of the public safety and health committee.

The public safety and health committee recommends passage of item 50.

A substitute ordinance relating to law enforcement identification.

51.

An ordinance relating to parking controls.

52.

An ordinance relating to traffic controls.

The committee recommends adoption of 53.

Resolution authorizing the health department to enter into an agreement with Milwaukee Public Schools for emergency mass care and sheltering sites.

54.

Resolution relating to acceptance of funding of a 2026 Wisconsin Department of Transportation, Bureau of Transportation Safety, Seat Build Enforcement Grant.

55.

Resolution relating to the acceptance and funding of the 2026 Wisconsin Department of Transportation, Bureau of Transportation Safety and Impaired Driving Enforcement Grant.

56.

Resolution relating to the acceptance and funding of a 2026 Wisconsin State Patrol Division Spring Drug Recognition Expert Field Certification Training Grant.

57.

Resolution relating to the acceptance and funding of a 2026 Wisconsin Department of Transportation, Bureau of Transportation, Safety Speed Enforcement Grant.

58.

Substitute resolution relative to the accept acceptance and funding of a 2026-27 Wisconsin Internet Crime Against Children Task Force Program Grant.

59.

Substitute resolution relating to the rendering of first aid by Milwaukee's Protective Services.

The committee recommends confirmation of 60.

Appointment of Stephanie Fiaro Badella to the Milwaukee Commission on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault by the Common Council President.

61, appointment of Karen Tyler to the Community Wellness and Safety Director by the Mayor.

62, appointment of Alder Woman Larissa Taylor.

To the Board of Health by the Mayor.

The committee recommends placing on file item 63.

Communication relating to the operation safe haven and its work supporting veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder.

64.

Substitute motion.

Modifying the Milwaukee Police Department Standard Operating Procedure 1726.

Substitute motion modifying the Milwaukee Police Department Standard Operating Procedure 340.

Uniforms, equipment and appearance, and 66.

Communication from the Fireman Police Commission relating to standard operating procedures.

Mr.

Chair.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Moore.

Thank you so much.

Um Mr.

President.

Excuse me, 25178.

I would like to make a recommendation to send this back to committee.

Okay, the motion by Alderwoman I would object.

Is to send it back to committee.

Chair recognizes Alderman Cox.

Umaker.

Just did you want to share why why?

The reason.

Yes, ma'am.

Um I think this has been a really um contentious recommendation by the administration.

The information that we've received with community partners and just members that have shared information.

I think we need to have an opportunity to just have a larger conversation around this appointment.

Um I have some grave concerns in regards to the appointments ability to run a department specifically after the individual has been looked over several times.

And and for me that says that says a lot.

I would have loved a um larger um community conversation.

There were some suggestions that I recommended that was not unfortunately ahered to.

Um Ms.

Tyler's you know, performance during um her committee hearing um was unfortunately not the best.

Um I want all of our you know, folks uh all of our folks to do well in their departments, but it I just have I have concerns, and I think that um sending it back to committee will provide an opportunity for some conversation.

Um specifically also on how the department is going to be funded.

Um the department received zero dollars from the state for violence prevention.

Uh it was alarming.

Um I I think there's just a little bit more conversation that needs to be had.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alamie Chambers.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um I respect my colleague's um opinion and her background in this.

Um I would respectfully disagree on many accounts.

Um one of the reasons is we had a robust discussion um in public safety that went well over an hour and a half, probably close to two hours on her appointment.

While I do think some of the conversation could have been better, I think it was perfectly clear that you know she deserves a chance to lead this department.

Um the fact that we brought up the state lack of not giving us funds from the governor's thing of you know the 10 million dollars, with all the respect, I think it's a Pittsburgh attempt to go after that.

Um I think that you know we received over 10 million dollars um from Governor Evers with over the past five years.

Um while yes, we definitely do need some more money, um, it is um you can't put that on the uh the nominee for this department.

Um if anything, you put it on her predecessors for you know, not advocating enough for it.

While yes, she was in the department during the time of application, she was not at the helm of the department.

Um and quite frankly, those that are in opposition, I have over 26 emails for those that are in support of the nominee.

Um, and I think that I'll wait to those that wanted to speak in opposition had uh ample enough time to come into the committee um when we just previously had a near two-hour discussion on it to express the opposition and another opportunity at a committee is just a waste of time, in my opinion.

And I think the way that those who are imposed to her that want to hold her accountable is to work with her and give her constructive criticism, constructive feedback to help her grow as opposed to stunting the uh department's um growth, I guess.

So that being said, Mr.

President, thank you.

Thank you.

Um you're in the queue, Alderman Moore.

Chair recognizes all of them, Ms.

Baker.

Uh thank you, Mr.

President.

I would urge any members who wonder what happened at public safety to watch that hearing.

It was an extensive hearing.

There were extensive questions.

What happened yesterday with the state awarding uh the state OVP office awarding funds um in the city of Milwaukee to everybody but BCWS.

That was a huge red flag and something certainly worth drilling down about the expenditures.

I don't know how many how much of the original state funding was expended.

I don't know if there were concerns of that.

Certainly somebody operating in the number two position and as operations uh had uh they cannot be um absolved of any responsibility there.

I I don't think that's um legitimate.

Um so I I wouldn't uh there's something problematic if the state sees fit to work everybody in the city of Milwaukee but our erstwhile OVP office um state funds.

That that indicates something worth investigating more.

Um so with that I'll be supporting the motion.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Chair recognize all of them more.

Um thank you so much, Mr.

President.

I appreciate my colleagues' sentiments on um all the um letters of support that came in.

I just want to make a notation that um the majority, probably about 98% of them were from um vendors, um, individuals that the department have provided funds to.

So I was a fun if I was a funder and I reached out to my to individuals that I funded for support, yes, I will be providing that letter of recommendation.

So um that didn't sway me uh much at all.

I wanted to authentically look at um individuals that um had worked with uh Ms.

Tyler in the past, and those were the ones that I um highly considered.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Chair recognized Alderman Burgellis.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh and I supported this nomination in committee.

Uh but we have gotten quite a bit of new information since that committee vote.

So I'm torn.

Um the revelation about the state funding is a concern we have in our inboxes from less than an hour ago the a copy of the city's application to the state, uh, which I would like to read uh and ask the nominee about.

Um so I will uh and there were other other concerns that were expressed uh and circulated after the committee vote uh that I think warrant uh a conversation and uh warrant questions and answers to the committee.

So I will support uh this motion.

Uh just for clarification, is this going back to public safety or to a different committee?

I would say public safety.

Okay.

Chair recognizes Alderman Brower.

Yeah, thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Um I have been very interested in this.

Uh safety is such a huge um uh piece for our community and and the person who's at the helm of our um community wellness and safety offices is really, really important.

So I'm taking this very seriously.

And um I mean I've been reading emails that have been coming in as well.

I was um you know really swayed to see uh a dear friend of mine, Jananda Jeebs support this nomination.

Um I intend to support this nomination, um, but I guess I'm I'm curious just to for a clarification and maybe for anybody else in the room who needs clarification.

Um this motion is to send this back to the committee.

The nominee is currently the interim um I don't know if the term is secretary, but the interim director of this department is um could maybe I could get the answer on that if that if that's the case and what what effects this this motion would have on the um current operations of the department um as it stands.

Um I'm very curious about that.

It would help with my vote on this.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, it it doesn't create a vacancy, so uh continues as she she is the interim for now.

Okay.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, Chair recognizes Alderwoman Taylor.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

I um I do want to um sort of re- it reiterate some of the things that uh Alderman uh Chambers mentioned.

I think that um it was it was stated that she has been overlooked um by uh um that others have ash as she's been in that position temporarily.

But uh I think the fact that she has been there through all the others that have led that um as an office and not a department um has given her an opportunity to learn what could be done differently to improve the department and after a long conversation with her, uh I've come to understand that um she does have state, she can clearly state some ideas for improvement um and how ways that she's going to work towards those improvements.

Uh so with that I would like to um stay in continuous that I do support this nomination.

Um along with some of my other colleagues having received the many letters of support for her.

I think they outweigh the letters that we saw that were not in support.

So I would definitely support the nomination.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um my colleague Alderman Bergellis brought up the application um that was recently mailed, and the application was done by her predecessor back in January.

Um so you know, for the fact that we're pinning on the lack of receiving um fund from Governor Evers on the nominee is just unfair.

And we're not a counsel of being unfair.

We do have our individual votes.

We have our opportunity to say no or abstain.

Um going for another round of just face it, it was an interrogation is unwarranted.

And um I I will continue to object, uh, sending this back to committee, and I will say, use your vote to either vote up, down, or nothing at all.

Um, you know, it you know, just you know, we're gonna highlight some of the good things that Ms.

Tyler has done.

Um, you know, just with her work with the missing piece with one of with you know the the motioners uh you know nominee uh for uh women's month.

Uh she has an expensive and extensive relationship with Miss Natalia Retria.

Um and work side by side with her um within the community, day by day they're giving out food, and that was led between Ms.

Natalia and Ms.

Titan.

And I know that could I have firsthand knowledge and experience with working with these individuals.

Um, you know, I say, you know, far as the lack of funding, we're gonna get there, we're gonna work it out, we're gonna figure it out.

Um, you know, I'll even bring up one last name, Mr.

President.

Her predecessor, you know, albeit you know, was unorthodoxy uh added as a director who you know my colleague strongly supported.

He came asking for money at a budget here and they didn't put it in the budget here, like he didn't know what was going on.

So let's just call it for what it is.

You know, let's let's work together.

Let's let's let's you know build her up as opposed to breaking her down.

Thank you.

And I'll just leave it at that.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Chair recognizes older personal Samaripa, thank you, Mr.

President.

Um I want to be clear, similar to Alderman Brouwer's comments.

Uh I support Karen Tyler's nomination.

Um, but this news around the loss of the state funding, I I am swayed by Alderwoman Moore's um motion and um argument.

Um this is very concerning why the state would um fund every other organization, but not our Office of Community Wellness and Safety.

And for that reason, um although of course weighs heavy on my heart, um, I am gonna support Alderman Moore's motion to send it back to committee so we can have this conversation.

I'd like to hear from the state why exclude only us.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderwoman Moore.

Thank you so much, um Mr.

Mr.

President.

As I'm you know, listening to all of my colleagues, I think we have to begin to set a precedent that want people in positions that have the ability to lead.

Ms.

Tyler has been with the division for so many for for several years.

And we have to get out of just giving people positions just because they've been with us for a period of time, particularly with no support.

The department was interested in building up someone's leadership, they would have provided the necessary support in order to prepare her for such as a time like this.

I think the part that was that got me the most was when I asked the question of what is the leasing leading cause of death among children for an individual that runs an office around gun violence, and do not know the one question that the leading cause of death among children are guns.

That struck a chord in me.

Um me even coming to office, just the feedback that I received around just follow-up.

Simple.

Turn a call, turn an email.

That had not been done.

And so now we're in a position and I'm getting emails and calls, and this is great, but I want your behavior to speak before you have to before you have to be in the spotlight.

I want to be able to know behind the scenes what you're doing.

And when I hear that people can't even get a follow-up call, a follow-up email for months at a time.

It's sad.

So I'm not here to say that she can't ever have a position.

I'm just saying that we just have to have a little bit more conversation.

You have to have a little bit more strategy.

How is the department going to be funded?

What is the mayor's position on funding such an important debar department that the majority of it is ARPA dollars?

What is the commitment?

I want I want the department to come and tell us what is their commitment to fund this very important department.

So I just asked my colleagues.

Please allow this to go back to committee so that we can have a more robust conversation.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Taylor.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

I'll make it very brief.

So I think with that, that deserves um recognition and an opportunity to lead the department.

So and I think it also is going to take someone with a heart.

She has done a great job.

Um throughout the community.

Um she's she's been responsive.

Um so I I don't I don't know.

I can't speak to I'm not gonna speak to what my colleague just said about um not getting the responses that maybe she was looking for, but um just in my experience, she's been responsive.

Uh, and she's led the team to be responsive.

So I think with that, she deserves an opportunity um to carry the department forward, not an office, but the department forward.

I think that she has an uh understanding of how to build those relationships that she's going to need in order to support to gain the support she needs in carrying that department forward.

So I think she deserves that opportunity.

So I I would object to taking it back to committee as well.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, I will um uh mirror the same comments as my colleague Alderwoman Taylor.

Um call the question okay, we have before us the motion by um and more to return to committee.

Will the clerk please call the roll up woman?

Pratt no chambers, no roart aye ballman.

Aye Westmoreland, aye cox, aye Jackson, Zamarepa, aye, Taylor, noore, aye, Bergillis, aye, spiker, aye, Dmitryevitch?

Aye, Stamper, Mr.

President, aye.

Eleven ayes, four no's eleven eyes for no that goes back to committee.

Point of order.

If we go to the committee of the hold as a police senator, did that take president?

It's already referred.

Thank you.

Is there any further discussion of the committee report?

Oh, excuse me.

City clerk, Mr.

President, members, with respect to item 50.

The office of the city attorney has informed us that he needs more time to decide on his legality and enforceability.

Decided it was not before the body.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes all the woman Dmitrievich.

Okay, slow down, please.

Item 50.

Um was this the file that was the city attorney spoke on behalf of at the actual committee?

Yes.

So there was a complete change.

Have we been given it in writing?

Yes.

Have we been given it in writing?

Yes.

So it's not before us.

Let me be clear.

City attorney says it's on its way in writing.

Can it be done by the end of this meeting?

No.

Okay, I'm sorry, this is alarming news to me.

Because we had a robust committee discussion led uh by the good alder person, Alderman Brouwer.

There's a number of co-sponsors.

We got testimony in support of it.

And now last minute there was a literal actual change in opinion.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean it's one thing if we had no opinion, but we actually had them speak on record, unless I'm mistaken, unless I saw a different meeting in support of it.

So forgive me for being a bit irritated.

Don't blame you.

As these agents are actually, Mr.

President, in our airports that we're talking about here, could come any day.

I know as of right now they're not there, but like the clock is ticking.

And um I just need a place on the record for the people that are here, people that have been here, um, that the advocates I'm talking about especially.

Um I want to thank uh Alderman Brouwer for just trying so hard to cross every T, every I dot, and work to get things done, and to have this barrier put up at the last minute unexpectedly.

I'm shocked.

It's just it's very difficult difficult to do business this way, and to move forward and a last-minute opinion when Mr.

President, hundreds of cities.

I was just listening to the National Public NPR radio today, are doing this exact same thing.

It's not a unique playbook that um, you know, we just woke up one day.

It is a toolkit and a playbook that is being used for cities to defend themselves across the nation and stand up and be a welcoming city, and to get a last-minute I don't even know if this is an opinion, but a change in opinion is not the way to do the people's business.

It's not fair, and it's gotta stop.

So I'm objecting to this whole situation because I guess I can't object because it's not even before us.

But I mean, I owe we owe some we owe the people watching us an explanation, and to hear that some new attorney in the city attorney's office has a different opinion from a few weeks ago when it was publicly discussed, when we're just trying to move forward on what the people have asked us to do.

Talk about emails, hundreds and thousands of emails again today.

Well, there's a partial government shutdown.

Well, there are ICE agents watching the lines form across the nation as people travel for spring break, and we can't even put together these basic items that we set forth.

We uh Alderman Brouwer is trying to do everything by the book.

So um this is unfortunate, and I refuse to just sit in silence as this happens.

We have nothing in writing.

You know what it feels like?

It feels like a last-minute veto.

But here's the worst part about it.

You can't even override it.

So if this happens to anybody else's policy, um, it's very very uncomfortable.

And I this is not the way to do the people's business, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Cox.

Um, yeah, just had a question.

Uh Jim, is it legally required to be in writing?

No.

Do ordinances, ordinances have to be signed by the city attorney.

Yes.

Well, to be clear, ordinance will say pass committee or referred to the city attorney for review as to legality enforceability.

They have three choices.

Sign it, don't sign it, or request for time.

He has requested more time.

If you were to say it is not legally enforceable, it returns to committee, at which point the common council may amend it to seek to make it legally enforceable, or they can seek to pass it notwithstanding the concerns of the city attorney.

But that has to be done at a subsequent committee meeting.

Does the ordin does the law around this require some timing of when the notification of his position should be?

No.

Maybe I should I don't disagree.

To the city charter.

Court of ordinances.

Please.

I'd appreciate that.

Chair recognizes uh are you done, Alderman Cox?

Yeah, I'm done.

Uh chair recognizes Alderman Member Gallus.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Would it be appropriate for us to resolve ourselves to the committee of the whole so that we can hear from the city attorney?

I agree.

And if not, why not?

This was pretty outrageous.

First of all, Mr.

Chair.

Mr.

Chair, I'll move to resolve ourselves to the committee of the whole so we can hear from the city attorney.

I want to hear from some other colleagues.

Are you done, Alder Member Gallas?

That's my motion.

That's your motion.

Okay.

Um on the motion, Alderman Stamper.

Yes, Mr.

President.

I I didn't hear the clarification.

Since when can the city attorney pull something from a government automatic body?

Uh Mr.

Chairman, all ordinances with a very few exceptions, are referred after committee to the city attorney.

They are placed on the agenda prospectively, as was the case here.

The city attorney then has the opportunity to review them for legality and enforceability.

And in those instances where in between the committee and the council, the city attorney determines that an ordinance is either not legal or enforceable or requires more time.

It is by the operation of the code that's been interpreted to not be before you.

It then either waits until the time was come.

We have just such an ordinance like that on the agenda today in C and D, or it returns that the part that is clear.

Otherwise, it returns to committee for further deliberation.

An opinion by the city attorney can do that.

It causes a pause, Mr.

President.

Yeah.

Um it is it is a time when either again there's a pause to wait for further action as was done with the C and D file, or it returns to committee where the council may then hear the matter again and pass it notwithstanding his objection.

So it doesn't, it's it doesn't end the file or kill the file, if you will, but it does provide an opportunity for a pause.

Okay.

We do not have the ability to override that in Robert Rules.

You do not have the ability.

No, that is an ordinance which would supersede Roberts.

Thank you very much.

Uh on the motion, Alderman Chambers.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I'm not an abject, I'm not an objection to going back to the committee whole, but if we do go to the committee hole of public safety, I will ask that we have item number sixty one be reconsidered and have a full discussion on that as well.

We want to discuss with the city attorney on item number 50.

We need to have a discussion on item 61 as well.

Uh on the motion, Alderman Bauman.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

President.

I do find this pretty outrageous behavior by the city attorney.

I do support going to a committee of the whole.

I support inviting the city attorney who is an elected official to come before his constituents, many of whom are in the room as well as many others that'll be on TV watching these proceedings and explain why they need more time.

Because this matter has been pending for quite some time.

I think everyone has been aware of the content of this proposed ordinance for quite some time, and to come up at the last minute and claim we need more time to do what exactly.

How do we get them?

So given that the city attorney is elected, I think he should come before this body, come before his constituents and explain why they need more time.

I get the ordinance that requires a pause if they pull that trigger of requiring more time.

But I think we're entitled to an explanation, as are the citizens of Milwaukee, as to why they need more time.

Same reason for it number sixty one, thank you.

Okay.

I know that the deputy clerk is trying to get a hold of the city clerk now.

Or the city attorney.

What what uh Alder Member Gillis, can we we can we go back to the motion when we get a hold of the motion is to resolve ourselves in the committee of the whole to hear from the city attorney on his objection to item number fifty?

You can hold to a later point in the meeting.

Yeah, can we hold it to a later point in the meeting?

Get rid of that's I would yeah, that's fine.

This is shabby shit.

Mr.

President, I have no objection if we lay it over to later in the meeting.

Fine.

Well we will hold that till later in the committee.

Um there being no further discussion of the committee report.

Uh Alderman Spiker moves for adoption of the recommendations of the public safety and health committee.

Would the clerk please call the roll with the exception of item fifty item 50?

Mr.

President.

Yes.

So if we do this, then that means item 61 is being sent back.

If once we close this vote out, I mean item 61 is going back to committee.

Yes.

I will ask that we hold this entire file until we get to this point before taking a roll call vote on public safety.

If we the the point of having a robust conversation on everything, including this topic, which I have no problem with.

We need to have a full conversation on the items will because that was the concern of my colleagues.

So if we want to do it, we'll take up both items.

Plain and simple.

That's the logic that they use and those.

There'll be a separate roll call for each one.

Thank you.

But I will still say hold.

I understand what you want to do, but there'll be a roll call on that too.

Thank you.

And and you should just have someone reconsider it.

Yes, sir.

All right.

So the motion is that is to hold 50.

Um we get a roll call on the on the committee report, please.

Mr.

President.

All right.

Mr.

President, may I say something before the roll call?

Yeah.

It's not even before you because of the whole.

Uh Alderman uh Brower.

Just before the roll call, please.

Um, just on um some other items here, I do want to um just a you know, here's some good things that we need to celebrate here today.

We have a couple of items that we're placing on file, some substitute motions modifying standard operating procedures.

Um, and we were able to reach agreement with the Milwaukee Police Department on that.

I just want to make sure everybody in the audience is aware.

And here I want to, you know, announce and talk about this too before we go on to the roll call for this item.

Um and then in item 59, we've got uh the resolution render of the rendering of first aid by Milwaukee's protective services, which is was discussed at the public health and safety committee.

Um we have agreement from the police chief and the fire chief to render first aid um whenever possible.

Um so I just you know I I think it's worth saying, I mean, I do have opinions on the item 50 thing.

I I I'm considering voting on that motion as well, but regarding item 59 and some of the items that we're placing on file, we have been gotten considerable movement on that in other cities.

Um people people have been injured, they weren't even able to render first aid.

I'm really appreciating that our police chief and fire chief are gonna attempt and instruct their employees to attempt to register to render, excuse me, to render first aid uh when that happens.

If there's an injury by ice.

Okay.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderman Alderwoman Dmitrievich.

Thank you.

I I just wanted a point of order.

So 50, which I express my discontent with, um cannot be held because it's not before us.

Yes.

Right, okay.

And that's that's unfortunate that I just want the public to see how awesome that power is.

Um that is an elected office, but that we can't we're probably even being you know a little gracious and allowing the speaking, which I appreciate, um, so that we can bring light to the situation, but it can't even be held because it's not before us.

So is that what the city clerk is also mentioning?

Is that we can't even go into the committee of the whole because it's not before us?

I just want to know what we're voting on, Mr.

President.

Yes.

Um he did not clarify that since it wasn't being heard, we couldn't go into committee of the whole.

Okay, and I object to tying that to the confirmation appointment.

I don't mean there's no germane nature of that.

So I don't even see how those two relate, and I would not want to tie those together.

Okay.

Mr.

President.

Uh Chair recognize the Holder Member Gellys.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

The only reason to delay my motion to move to the committee of the whole was to wait for the city attorney's appearance.

Okay.

Um we've got some.

I think the city clerk's office contacted city attorney.

I think there's a report out.

So if if appropriate, maybe we should just delay the entire department report until the city attorney is here.

The entire department report.

Uh Mr.

President, members, the city attorney will not come over.

Um he has indicated that this is a matter that must be discussed in closed session.

Mr.

President, then I'll move that we move to a committee of the whole in closed session.

Let me not notice for that.

I know.

Nice try.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

I just don't want to forget to abstain from number 62.

Let the record reflect abstention by elder woman Taylor on item number 62.

We still have uh since we can't go into committee of the whole because he won't be here and he needs to be in the closed session.

We're not noticed for it.

I will just remind everyone that we are going to vote on the uh the remainder of the committee report.

Uh any last minute discussion before we do a roll call.

Hearing none, could you please roll the uh do roll call, please?

Alder woman Alder Woman Pratt?

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brouwer.

Aye.

Bauman.

Aye.

West Moreland.

Aye.

Cogs.

Aye.

Jackson.

Zama Repa.

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Regillis.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dimitreevich.

Aye.

Stamper.

All right.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

15 eyes.

15 eyes.

That committee report is adopted.

Alderman Robert Bauman when I'll present the report of the zoning neighborhoods and development committee.

The zoning neighborhoods and development committee recommends passage of 67.

An ordinance relating to the documentation of historic buildings before demolition.

68, an ordinance relating to property deconstruction.

The committee recommends adoption of 69.

Resolution approving a final certified survey map for land located on the south side of West Bobalink Avenue, west of North 122nd Street in the 5th automatic district.

70.

Substitute resolution approving a project plan and a development agreement authorizing expenditures and creating a tax incremental district number 130 in the 12th automatic district.

71.

Substitute resolution approving a project plan and a development agreement authorizing expenditures and creating a tax incremental district number 131 in the 12th automatic district.

72.

Resolution dissolving tax incremental district number 39 and authorizing the city controller to distribute excess incremental revenue to the overlying taxing districts.

73.

Resolution dissolving tax incremental district number 42 and authorizing the city controller to distribute excess incremental revenue to overlying taxing districts.

74.

Resolution dissolving tax incremental district number one, rather tax incremental district number 46, and authorizing the city controller to distribute excess incremental revenue to overlying taxing districts.

75.

Resolution dissolving tax incremental district number 51 and authorizing the city controller to distribute excess incremental revenues to overlying taxing districts.

The committee recommends and the committee.

Relating to item 67, file 251617.

I move to replace uh the current file with a proposed substitute that's been passed out in front of you at your desk.

These were rather minor technical amendments to the form of this uh file.

This file is basically involves historic preservation where one needs to do a three-dimensional scan of any properties which are re which are requesting a certificate of appropriateness for demolition.

Basically, this would only apply to historically designated buildings or buildings in historic district.

Okay, chair recognizes all the woman coxes to the sponsor.

Is this the um I know a meeting or two ago we had a presentation done by a member of HPC about this 3D stuff?

Is this is this requiring so this is requiring the 3D rendering for historically designated buildings that are being asked to be demolished?

Yes.

Do the 3D in Milwaukee.

There may be numerous vendors, but I know the University of Wisconsin School of Architecture and Urban Planning does perform the service.

When they present it, at least if my memory um if my memory is right, they talked about the limitations of how many they could do given the limited machinery or whatever the equipment was.

Is that is that not a concern?

Well, that could be an issue, but we issue very few COAs for demolition.

I mean, there are I can count on one hand the amount of COAs we issue, and most of those involve garages, and this would not apply to garages.

This would apply to main buildings.

So if if if there's one or two of these done a year, I'd be surprised.

Remind me um how expensive did they say this was the 3D?

Well, I don't know what the cost is, but I know they did they did my own home as a as an experiment or a pilot, and it took them 20 minutes.

So I don't know how expensive a 20-minute procedure can be.

I mean, it may be hundreds of dollars, possibly.

But if one can afford to spend $20,000 to demolish a historic building, that extra hundred two hundred dollars for a scan to preserve the dimensions and appearance of that building in perpetuity, wouldn't that seem uh reasonable.

So HPC be the keepers of the record?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, in the almost 14 years I've been in office that happened once in my district with uh Forest Home Library.

Right.

It wasn't mandated, but they wanted to preserve what that library was, and they did the 3D renderings inside of that.

So recognize all the Ms Stamper.

Oh, the cost is to the end for the demolition.

And we don't know the cost yet.

It it'll vary by the size of the building, probably.

All right.

Um are we RFPing this scanning ability?

No, the property owner goes out and hires a contractor, the contractor prepares the scan pursuant to the specifications that are promulgated by the historic preservation.

Yeah, it was they can hire anybody they want.

They can hire an okay, okay.

So it was uh like a nifty tool to have, but I didn't see the requirement.

Why why is this required?

Why do you think this will help if you bought the demo for spark parts or why do you think this will help?

I mean, I'll give you the most classic example of where this came in handy and can be useful.

Okay.

Uh they did a three-dimensional scan of the uh of Deltron Cathedral in Paris.

Okay.

And it detailed the structure of the building, the dimensions of the building, great detail.

And then a year after the scan was done, they had a massive fire.

And significant portions of the building were destroyed, and they were only able to restore it to its original design and specifications was because they had the scan.

And so it was it was like an X an after-the-fact blueprint for the building.

Because of course, in the 10th century, when Notre Dame Cathedral was built, they apparently didn't have blueprints.

Or if there were any, we're not around.

So that's essentially what you're doing.

You're you're making a um record of what the historic structure looked like for all posterity to survey and consider and study as the city land use evolves and changes.

Yeah, okay.

I remember the discussion.

I'm I'm cool with you know, you're doing it personally on your own preference and wanting that for your own file, but I don't want to mandate it as a city uh requirement.

You know, you can do that on your own.

I don't think it should be mandated.

But nobody's gonna do it on their own.

Based on your explanation, it's for the owner to do based on them putting back the building that they own or that they want.

Correct?

Based on what you just said.

It's it's when we designate a structure or create a historic district, we as a city are saying that the public has an interest in historic designation in addition to the interest of the private owner.

And so certain conditions attached to that designation such that an owner does not have free will to willy-nilly make changes or alterations to the exterior of the building.

Yeah.

And people some people object to that, but collectively we've decided that in the in the long run, it's in the public interest to have those requirements.

If a building meets the criteria for designation.

And this is essentially adding one additional element to the to the conditions that we attach to historic designation.

Yeah, uh failure in our uh respect.

So I just I got too many issues already with historic preservation, and this is another hindrance for my district, particularly for Grim Boulevard and Summer Boulevard.

So I don't see this necessary, and I'm not supporting this.

Okay.

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

This one item number sixty seven we're speaking about on the motion.

I got the file number for me.

I don't have the it's six.

Okay.

Yeah, I'll be a no on that.

Um, and then at the appropriate time, I like to speak on item number sixty-eight.

Okay.

Chair recognizes Alderman Brouwer.

Yeah, thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Uh, just to comment on item sixty-seven as well.

I think um what we should think, I mean, I mean, I think a conversation, a broader conversation about the impacts of historic designation is you know, worthy of have being had and how that impacts people and how that impacts what we're trying to do when you know we're engaging in progress here in the city of Milwaukee.

But um, I'm intending to support this.

Um, I'd like you know, I I'd like to be in support of this of this uh item here.

Um, because I do agree with what Alderman Bauman said that um the question of of property rights is one that really strikes at the heart of you know my ideology as a socialist, and when we have a piece of um property, like that doesn't give the person who holds that title absolute authority um with that property.

Okay, so the um and I mean you know I I don't believe that for-profit properties exist, frankly, and there's cultures around this world that say you can't own the land.

Um so and but of course, you know, in our social constructions, we say that a piece of paper at the courthouse called a a deed to property means something, and that's what we've all decided is is is the case here in in the United States.

Um so that is how we've we based our laws.

But when we have these structures that um, and I would I would argue though there's there's a lot of structures that are worth um saying that means more than just a piece of paper at the courthouse that's a deed to property, that that is something that's um valuable to the community.

Um we should be careful and we should really think you know long and hard as we designate more properties in that manner.

Um right, so I would just caution everybody that that is that I think that's really the question the really the question we should be be debating, excuse me, is when should a property be designated or not, and does it meet a threshold for historic designation?

Um, but when we do say that a property is historic, um, especially some of these public buildings that we're working or not or publicly used buildings that we're working to preserve, I would say that a three-dimensional scan could allow.

I mean, as much as I hate AI, let me let me speak positively to it right now, which is that it is possible using you know potentially an augmented reality visual headset to see the construction of a building that has been torn down and see what it was like and there there is there is value in that.

So I just wanted to speak to that.

I thought it was worth saying that.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Moore.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Um, I have a question for the sponsor.

Um Alderman Bauman, are we just specifically talking about um historic property that is already deemed for demolition?

No, no, it it typically how it works.

If a property is designated historic or the property is in an historic district, in order to demolish that property, one has to apply for a certificate of appropriateness for demolition.

And what we are saying that as a condition of being granted that certificate, it could be denied for other reasons, but as a condition of receiving that certificate of appropriateness, we have to scan the property before it's demolished.

And DNS, which is an entity that hands out demolition permits, they under this ordinance would not be empowered to issue a demolition permit unless the applicant can demonstrate they have a COA or certificate of appropriateness for demolition.

So it's historic, it's a two-step process.

You have to get a CEO, the COA for demolition, and then you carry that to the DNS to get a permit for demolition.

Thank you.

And so in regards to the scan, I think this was asked prior.

We don't have the the cost of the scan will go on to the property owner, correct?

And we have no idea what the cost of the scan is.

How much how much time it takes, it'll be a variable cost.

Got it.

That would definitely be something that I would be interested in knowing a little bit more about.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Okay.

We've heard a couple of objections to Alderman Bauman's substitute amendment.

Do we just want to do a roll call on that?

Alderman Bauman?

Let's do a roll call on the on the uh motion by Alderman Bauman.

Okay.

So that so city clerk pointing out that these are very technical.

Alderman Bauman's motion are very technical from the city attorney's office.

So we should uh accept those that substitute amendment and then just vote up or down on the actual file then.

So let's do that.

So this is on the file.

Alder Woman Pratt.

Oh, excuse me, that we accept the substitute.

Yeah.

Um the motion by Alderman Bauman is the substitute amendment.

Are there any objections to that amendment?

Yeah.

Hearing none so ordered, now we're on the file.

On the file, Alderwoman Taylor.

Um no, actually, I have uh all different ones.

All right, we'll I do have one question.

I do want to apply to the sponsor.

Um you brought up the Notre Dame in Paris.

Uh what other examples locally um besides your house does the scan and all that other stuff has to play?

I think they did do another commercial property.

I honestly don't know where it wasn't in my district to my knowledge.

Uh this this was this came to me from the School of Architecture and Urban Planning.

And I'm basically advancing what they recommended that we do to keep create a permanent record of historic properties that get demolished.

It's not that complicated.

They did another commercial property somewhere in the city.

I don't know where that is.

Yeah, I thought my example was pretty clear.

I mean, I voted for the demolition against what um the historic preservation did and um for the children's hospital in my district, and they thought one way to preserve or have record of what the community thought was a very significant architectural library or building was to scan it and preserve it that way in case someone wanted it for records, wanted to duplicate it, they had exactly that.

But I was I voted in favor of demolishing it.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am.

On the on the file, can the city clerk please do a roll call?

On the file, alder woman Pratt?

Aye.

Chambers.

Abstain.

Rower?

I Bowman.

Aye.

Wesmorelin.

Aye.

Cogs.

Jackson.

Aye.

Zamarepa?

Excuse.

Oh Taylor.

Aye.

Moore?

Abstain.

Burgelis?

Aye.

Spiker?

Aye.

Dmitrievich?

Aye.

Stamper.

Oh.

Alder Woman Zambarepa?

Aye.

Mr.

President.

All right.

Eleven ayes, one no, and three abstain.

Okay.

The file passes.

Is there any further discussion on the rest of the committee report?

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

Thank you, Ms.

Oh.

Go ahead, Alderman too.

I'll defer to her.

Okay.

Alder Woman Taylor.

Um, I'm just wondering, because I have been um gathering information and meeting um with those in DCD, and I'd like to hold number 75 until the next uh council meeting as I gather more information about it.

This is the budget.

So uh tellers your is your motion to hold it in council or send it back to committee.

Um if I can hold it in council, that's what I'd like to do.

Okay.

So the motion by Alderwoman Taylor is to hold it in council.

Any objections to that?

Mr.

President.

Yes.

Just wondering if there are any timeline issues.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was doing.

Yeah, it is.

Um if we're required under statute, so it's all she wants to hold in consult.

Okay.

Say it again.

They were wondering if there's any issues with a timeline in order to dissolve the district.

It might be, but I and uh in the conversations that I've had it, I'm not sure if it has to go through today if we can still hold it until the next council.

Okay.

Um I've been informed by the city clerk that DCD did testify that their deadline was April 15th, and I would put it past our next council meeting date.

All right.

Do you still want to move the motion?

That's saying then that I can't hold it because it's gonna put us past the date.

Yeah, at least that's what was testified.

Um colleagues, do you have some information to that?

Is that a self-imposed deadline or is that a legal deal?

Yeah, uh the city clerk says it's a statutory deadline for state.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Let me know if you need help with DCD on that.

Um anyone else?

Any further discussion?

Item sixty eight, Mr.

President.

On item sixty eight, Alderman Chambers.

Um to the sponsor, um how how many times um I think this is like at least it's obviously the third time we extended the date for the deconstruction.

Well, that's a long story.

If if if you we want to go into it, we can.

I was doing a courtesy to the department to extend the moratorium on the deconstruction ordinance one more year, give them an opportunity to come up with some ideas perhaps, which they claim they are working on, which of course they claim they've been working on for the last better part of a decade.

Uh if one recalls, the deconstruction ordinance was passed by this body back in I think twenty eighteen.

They were sitting in the front row and extolling the virtues of this ordinance in terms of the amount of job creation that would be generated because deconstruction is far more labor-intensive than mechanical deconstruction, in addition, the environmental benefits of recycling old growth timber instead of sending it to landfill savings to the sea in terms of tipping fees, which we would not have to pay were we not landfilling uh building debris, and when you tear down a typical single family duplex house in Milwaukee, you are talking fifty to seventy tons of material, most of which is old growth wood, uh some of which is three, four hundred years old from uh parts of Wisconsin.

So we thought this was a very progressive enlightened measure.

Other cities were doing it.

We had had a report from Preston Cole, then commissioner of DNS who had taken a trip to Portland to inspect their deconstruction program.

And finally, when we got on the ground here, there were a million excuses from the department as to why it wouldn't work.

They claimed they tried to make it work.

That contractor ended up going bankrupt and having all his equipment repossessed.

We did have a contractor very interested in taking this on with a solid track record in the name of recycling.

They're based in Kenosha County.

They've had they've done extensive deconstruction work here in Milwaukee, including several projects that were undertaken by Bear Development, which is a firm that has done quite a bit of housing development in the city.

However, recycling indicated, yes, we have the capability, we can do it for a reasonable price, but we have our own teams and crews, and we will not comply with RPP.

And so they were disqualified from becoming the contractor, and so we continue to do mechanical demolition, we continue sending material to landfills, we continue losing the environmental benefits, and we continue losing the job creation benefits because we were unwilling to relax the RPP requirements for this one company on this one program.

So yes, we agreed to extend this one more year.

Maybe somehow this can get sorted out because I am not prepared to declare defeat on the process of deconstruction, given the numerous benefits that it can generate for the city and for citizens, especially in terms of the job creation components.

So Arnold Obama, it's it's safe to say that you know, within this one year, that the only way that we will get any traction on this is if we were to relax the RPP.

Yeah, that that do we had a hearing on the subject.

So what literally had a hearing on that exact issue, and and that was in that effect.

There is a contractor ready, ready, willing able.

In fact, they do deconstruction already, and they have a pile of lumber sitting down here off of Greenfield Avenue between the two railroad rights of weight where the where that horse stable used to be, and they're in the they're down there sorting wood as we speak.

But but would that come from private deconstruction that they've been hired to perform in Milwaukee?

So thank you, Mr.

President, for giving me the the brevity.

So um there's no other companies that would do it that would comply with RPP because RPP is extremely important to this body.

No, they're well not based on the RFPs that were that were advertised several times.

So are we so it seems like one contractor did come through and they were hired, and they ended up doing half of one deconstruction before they went belly up.

So it seems to me that we're beating a dead horse here because either you know this body had the vote to relax the RPP mostly so we can get this one company that is standing firm on their beliefs that they're not gonna conform to our to our RPP standards, which is you know highly regarded in this body, or well, the file before us now is a is a file to suspend enforcement of an ordinance on the books for another year.

If we if we defeat this file, then the ordinance will be in effect, and so DNS would be bound to refuse a demolition permit for any property built before 1930, one to four family properties built before 1930, and any property in a historic designated property or in a historic district.

So by defeating this file, it will guarantee that the ordinance goes back into effect until someone in the next cycle moves to repeal the deconstruction ordinance.

So I fine vote against this.

I'm all in favor of putting deconstruction back in as a requirement.

Well, I know deconstructing is very property deconstruction is very important to you, and with all due respect, I respect your your mission as far as doing that.

But if we're doing this just for the sake of one company who would not conform to our standards, our RPP standards, you know, that just don't stay right with me, and I I can't support that, nor that company.

But that's not before us, that's not the issue here.

Yeah, that's not actually supports what you're saying.

Right.

Okay.

Well, you bring up RPP.

Do you know that we've never laxed RPP for any project?

Oh, I know that.

You know that for sure.

Well, we probably did, but not since I've been here.

Okay.

Have we?

I mean, city clerk can answer that question, I guess.

No, it's not a matter of relaxing it, it's a matter of enforcing it when they just ignore it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you, Art Balma.

Okay.

Um Chair Ragnize Alderman Brower.

Yeah, thank you.

So if I'm understanding correctly, we this is a freezing of this ordinance that requires this.

The if we would require, we we would enter into the territory where we don't have a contractor, or the only contractor available is one that would violate our RPP standards.

So therefore, to keep the high standards that we've set for RPP for these for these projects, we would it would it would behoove us to then continue the freezing of this ordinance to potentially in the future come across a contract or devise some other method um by which we can do this that complies with our other or other RPP ordinance.

So voting yes would support the current RPP scheme and not put us in a situation where we may need to reconsider reconsider that.

Okay.

Chair recognized other Ms.

Tamper.

Yeah, thank you.

Mr.

President.

So um Roma gave a uh uh uh synopsis of the history, but he missed a lot of variables to it.

Many organizations, community-based organizations apply, but the cost was an issue.

Why is White Glove North Carolina to be specific?

So it was different cost and different variables where uh funds the the the deconstruction wouldn't benefit the cost, but also uh the majority, I want to say 75-80 percent.

The reason why I supported this deconstruction ordinance is in my district and the sixth district.

Okay.

So the main purpose of our support for the deconstruction was for employment for city and Milwaukee employees.

So of course not are we going to suspend the RPP because the program was developed based on the premise of RPP in the neighborhoods where most of the demolition will occur.

But where I'm gonna have a Kenosha company coming into the 50th district doing work, 80% of the work being done by a Kenosha company.

We have the ability to hire a local company, hiring local people that reflect the diversity of that community.

So it's ridiculous to even think that we're gonna try to reduce or remove RPP for a Kenosha company, number one.

Number two, the purpose of this is for RBP, and there have been applications.

Now I'm just gonna support the suspension based on an open opportunity for individuals still to apply, because since last committee I have talked to two deconstruction companies that may apply that are local, that will hire local people and get the original intent of the deconstruction fulfilled.

So that's the honest actuality of what actually is the history of this deconstruction program.

It started based on jobs and opportunity for individuals.

We did that at a big uh press conference, a big uh celebration with a bunch of in uh opportunity.

It didn't work out.

We tried again, it didn't work out, and uh subsequently agencies that applied couldn't make the the work to be done outweigh the cost of what it would have cost to deconstruct.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you, Chair Ragnarok, Solomon McBowman.

Yeah, just as a historical footnote, I I believe I'm I don't believe we better actually relax the RPP requirement, although we tried to in connection with the construction of five serve forum.

There was going to be a 30% RPP requirement, which was amended by this council to 40%.

I don't think it doesn't get my vote if that I wasn't here, so I don't know.

Chair recognizes all the one college dimension.

Thank you.

It was actually 35 was being recommended, but as you Otterman Bauman who uh excuse me excuse me.

Oh my god, what did you say?

It was actually 35 that was percent that was recommended.

Um, but it was it was Otterman Ballman who um encouraged us to fight for the full 40.

And we did, and they were able to meet and exceed um those percentages.

Right.

Um so I'm not aware of relaxing the RPP ever either.

I am aware of projects that weren't able to meet it, and who had to work out other arrangements um with um what is now the office of um what are we calling it?

Um as it's stipulated within the ordinance.

What happens when people don't meet the requirements of things they have to do?

Um I think that there's a broader conversation about deconstruction that probably is warranted.

Um I think those of us who have been here a while have been a part of these um conversation for years, but it is a lot of new members, so it's probably a whole broader conversation that's warranted.

But I do think Ottawa is correct in that what's in front of us right now is to vote up or down on um whether or not to put into effect um uh deconstruction legislation we already had in the one year that we did have this legislation enacted, um, in Ottoman Stanford, you may recall the city did five um deconstruction.

Five.

While it was hundreds on the list, they did five.

In my almost 18 years of serving, of course, Artaman Stamper and I had the most um houses that were on the list.

That is the year I got the most complaints from constituents because of the lack of tearing down um the properties.

Um whether or not times have changed, and um we're ready to get another contractor or ready to do more than five.

Um that's a whole nother discussion.

But I know that I can't support the ordinance going into effect because I know the impact it has on my district, and it's just not a good one.

Thank you.

But it is beyond this in front of us right now, it is a broader discussion about deconstruction that we should have, and I think it's actually a few hundred thousand dollars that's still allocated towards um deconstruction that's been held um for some years for that.

So I will be supporting the legislation um today, just so that it doesn't go go into effect.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um the committee report hearing none, Alderman Bowman moves for adoption and recommendations of the zoning neighborhood and development committee with the clerk, please call the roll.

Alder Woman Pratt, aye, Chambers, aye Rower, aye Balbin, aye Westmoreland, aye cogs Jackson, aye Zamarepa?

Aye Taylor, aye more, aye Bergelis, aye, Spiker, aye Dimitrivich, Stamper, Mr.

President.

Aye.

Fifteen ayes.

15 ayes of committee report is adopted.

Alderman Russell Stamper the second will now present the report of the community and economic economic committee.

No brought no.

The community and economic development committee recommends passage of 77.

An ordinance relating to the appointment of emerging youth achievement advisory council members and designees.

The committee recommends adoption of 78.

Resolution designating August 1st through 8th as Brownsville week in the city of Milwaukee.

79.

Substitute resolution relating to establishing the Fifth District Moving Night Fund as an official city event and authorizing the acceptance and expenditure of contributions for this purpose.

The committee recommends confirmation of 80, appointment of Marquise Hogans as the Health Department Commissioner Design to the Emerging Youth Achievement Advisory Council.

81.

Appointment of Roy Serez Del Rail, the third to the fourth of July Commission by the Mayor.

82, appointment of David Knutson to the Business Improvement District No.

20 by the Mayor.

83, appointment of Brandon Strand to the business approvement district number 51 by the mayor.

And the committee recommends placing and file item 84.

Communication from the Department of City Development relating to the 2025 annual report of neighborhood poster sales in accordance with the license agreement between the City of Milwaukee and Historic Milwaukee Inc.

Chair recognizes all of Ms Tamper Thank you, Mr.

President.

Please add me as co-sponsorship to number 77 and 78.

The record reflect co-sponsorship of 77 and 78.

I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor of 78.

Any further discussion?

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

Four 78.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Samaripa.

Alder Purchase Samaripa.

Same permission to be added as a co-sponsor of item number 78.

Co-sponsor of item 78 by Samarupa.

Please add me as co-sponsor for item 78.

Unanimous consent.

Is that what everyone else is lit letting up?

Okay.

Can we get unanimous consent for co-sponsorship of 78?

Here are no objection so ordered.

Thank you.

Alderman Taylor, is that where you had your light up?

Yes.

Okay, all right.

Any further discussion of the committee report?

Seeing no lights.

Alderman Stamper moves for adoption of the recommendations of community and economic development committee with a clerk, please call the roll.

Alder Woman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers.

Aye.

Brower?

Aye.

Ballman.

Aye.

Westmoreland.

Aye.

Cogs.

Aye.

Alder Woman Cogs.

Aye.

Thank you.

Zamarepa?

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Bergelis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dmitryevitch.

Aye.

Stapper.

Aye.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

15 ayes.

15 ayes.

The community report is adopted.

Alder Woman Marina Dmitrievich will not present the report.

I miss the president.

Cacks.

Jackson I.

Let the record reflect.

Is I vote?

Alder Woman Marina Dmitrievich will now present the report of the steering and rules committee.

Chair recognizes Alderman Samaripa.

Did you have your yes?

I have a motion.

We'll we'll get through the cut the steering rules.

Mysteries and rules committee recommends passage of number 85, a substitute ordinance creating a department of compliance and engagement.

Uh oh.

Okay.

And the committee recommends adoption of 86.

Resolution prohibiting the use of city property for civil immigr for civil immigration enforcement activities.

Chair recognizes all the person Samaripa.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Members, as you recall in Stern and Rules Committee, we did pass this resolution prohibiting the use of city properties for immigration enforcement activities.

It is the first file out of the ICE out MKE legislative package to go through the committee process.

And I appreciate the robust discussion that the committee and and all of my colleagues had on this file.

In fact, uh Alderman McCoggs did make a point in committee that I have addressed in an amendment.

And so I have a motion at this time to amend the file, if I may, Mr.

President.

Yes, please.

Further resolve that this resolution shall apply to a leased premises that is subject to a lease to which the city is a party and which is executed after the effective date of this resolution, and its requirements shall be incorporated in any such lease unless waived by the common council.

And be it.

Mr.

President, I also move to amend the second to last resolve clause by adding the underlying text as shown below.

And everybody has a copy of this.

I'm sorry, colleagues at your desks.

Okay.

It's a simple amendment by Alder Mo Alder Person Samaripa.

Uh Alderman Brower on the actually I wanted to speak on the item uh once the amount is done.

Okay.

Um the motion by uh Alderman Samaripa is to um for the simple amendment.

Any objection to that?

Harry Nutsal Order.

Uh Alderman Brower?

Yeah, thank you so much, Mr.

President.

And and thank you so much um Alder Person Samaripa for leading on this and uh to the rest of the colleagues who have signed on uh to the ICE out legislation or who have cast their votes for pieces of it.

I urge um us to cast our votes for it today here as well.

Um what's going on across this country obviously is known to everybody that ICE is running roughshod over this entire country and just abducting people at will.

Um I am so glad that this body has demonstrated its willingness to do every single thing that it can um to stop this.

And while you know, while we might be, you know, we're debating questions of the supremacy clause and what right we have to do all this.

Um I will be firm in my political position that um even if there are questions about enforceability or the supremacy clause uh regarding what we as a low as a local unit of government can do and what we can enforce.

Um we need to push in this instance in history, we need to push the envelope here, right?

We need to push the envelope and I mean let let the McGuiver Institute of the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty challenge our ordinances in court.

Let them say that it's not legal, let ICE tell our police to get um get lost.

Excuse me.

I will I won't use profanity here on the floor.

Which they will use.

Uh let ICE uh tell our officers to get lost when we try to and try to enforce something, but at least let's um attempt to set the right legal stage for us to um declare activities that ICE is engaged in that we know are wrong, and that the American people know are wrong, and that the residents of this city know are wrong.

Let's let's codify those things so that we can so that we can set the stage for um our for our residents and our you know and everybody to be able to stand up to ice here in this city.

Let's let's set that stage.

And so this resolution prohibiting the use of city property for civil immigration enforcement is a step in that direction.

What what will happen when ICE assembles on city property?

I mean, we're that's to be determined when that occurs, but let's at least say that we don't want it to happen.

Let's at least prohibit it by a resolution and let's call upon you know our law enforcement to enforce the laws and resolutions that we pass and let's call upon um community organizations, unions, immigrants' rights groups, voces, the turners, uh the Milwaukee DSA, everybody who's coming out and standing up for this to themselves um join in protest when ICE assembles and attempts to uh stage on a city property or attempts to conduct an abduction of somebody who doesn't deserve to be abducted.

Um so I just you know want to lay that out that like that this is the part the step in the right direction where we act as organizers of our own constituents to um move our people to action so that when ICE comes here, they are when ICE launches a major operation, they are already here, but when they launch a major operation like they are doing in other cities um and are doing at airports right now, that they know no fear like the residents of the city of Milwaukee.

I'm so proud of what our residents are are are planning to do in the mobilization they've done.

Uh let's give ICE let's let's melt the ice, let's give them some hell, um, and let's pass this resolution today.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes uh Alderwoman Taylor uh yes uh thank you.

I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor for number 86.

Let the rec reflect call sponsorship by the woman tailor 86.

Chair recognizes Alderwoman Cogs.

Fine.

Yes, I oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

President, and thank you so much to my colleagues for your support uh around this.

Um I also want to I would be remiss to not thank City Attorney Evan Goikey and Assistant City Attorney Tom Miller who helped us to ensure that this file is legal and enforceable and in fact um helped me to draft the amendment that you just passed that um shorts it up and makes it even stronger in that it'll now affect any future leases that we may enter into with a nonprofit organization, etc.

Um, and just some final remarks, Mr.

President.

Uh as you know, Milwaukee is the largest city in the great state of Wisconsin, it is the most diverse city in the state.

Milwaukee's regardless of their national origin, preferred language or immigration status, contribute to the city's economic strength and cultural vibrancy.

Thank you, colleagues, again um for supporting this file.

Um this sends a message to our people no matter their status.

And in the city of Milwaukee, we protect our folks.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh there being no further discussion.

Uh Alder Woman Demetriovic moves for adoption of the recommendation steering rules committee.

The clerk please call the roll.

Alder Woman Pratt.

Aye.

Chambers Brower.

Aye.

Bowman.

Aye.

What's Moreland?

Aye.

Cox.

Aye.

Jackson.

Aye.

Zamarepa.

Aye.

Taylor.

Aye.

Moore.

Aye.

Bergellis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Aye.

Dimitrievich.

Aye.

Stamper.

Mr.

President.

Aye.

Fifteen eyes.

15 eyes.

Committee report is adopted.

We will now take up communications from city officers.

File number 251946.

Communication from the city clerk relating to service of papers.

Order of file.

File number 251947.

Communication from the city clerk relating to various commendatory codulatory resolutions to be acknowledged and affirmed by the common council.

Order on file.

File number 251958.

Communication from the city clerk relating to official notices and reports.

Order on file.

Reappointment of Sergeant S.

Aurora to serve as an interfaith conference representative on the Housing Trust Fund Advisory Board.

Order of file.

Are there any items for immediate adoption?

There are three items for immediate adoption.

Item number 87, file number 25205.

Resolution approving final certified survey maps.

Number 88, file number 252050.

Resolution authorizing the Commissioner of Assessments to appeal a determination of the state of Wisconsin Board of Assessors.

And item number 89, file number 252053.

Resolution rescinding common council file number 991691 and Common Council number 001669 relating to state legislation.

Is there any discussion of these items?

Hearing none, Alderman Spike removes adoption with the clerk, please call a roll.

Alder Woman Pratt.

Aye Chambers.

Aye.

Brower.

Aye.

Ballman.

What's Moreland?

Aye.

Cogs.

Aye.

Jackson.

Zamarepa.

Aye.

Taylor.

I Moore.

Aye.

Burgellis.

Aye.

Spiker.

Aye.

Dimitrivich.

Aye.

Stanford.

All right.

Mr.

President.

15 eyes.

15 ayes.

Are there any announcements?

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Early voting starts today.

And we have just getting the locations going.

So excuse me.

But you know, we have uh important Supreme Court race going on in the state, and we have uh county supervisor races going on in our respective districts.

Um so I would advise each and every one of the residents in the city of Milwaukee to go exercise your right and vote.

Um I know that Midtown location has been moved, it's no longer at the Capitol Voting Center.

That's a that was recently or previously located at 60 zero one uh West Capitol Drive.

Now it is located with back within the Midtown Shopping Center, um, right on the corner of 54th in Hope in the former Dots um location right across from the rainbow.

So if you normally go into the Midtown shopping center to go and vote, um just know it's on the opposite side of the building closest to the Walmart building.

Um the second district will be hosting um uh I'm sorry, but I'll come back on that one, Mr.

Brothers.

I'll just give the information.

Thank you, sir.

Okay, chair recognizes Alder Woman Pratt.

Thank you.

I just want to announce that I'm having I'm doing in-district office hours.

So tomorrow I'll be at Lincoln Park Pavilion uh at 5 p.m.

And then on the 1st of April, I will be at Salvation Army on 35th and 39th and Villard at 12 p.m.

Um I'm also doing office hours on Joe's Cafe for on the 6th of April at 12 p.m.

And again on the 11th of April at the Fire and Police Academy, and that one is on a Saturday at 10 a.m.

And city departments will also be there.

Um and then another one on the 16th of April at 12 p.m.

And I also want to congratulate my daughter, Nyla Elzy.

Uh she is a junior at the illustrious Fisk University, HBCU in Nashville, Tennessee, and she was elected as the first Chief Justice.

Hey, congratulations.

Congratulations.

Absolutely, sir.

Uh well, it's it's different.

The second district will be hosting a grand opening of one city supermarket and the former century grocery store on 64 from Silver Screen.

Uh, we'll be opening up um April 3rd.

So I'd like to thank uh Vero Patel for his hard work and revitalizing that once recent closed uh location and doing a quick turnaround on the supermarket.

So for those residents in the um immediate area, including West Lawn Gardens, um, you know, we um we we did it.

You know, we got the grocery store back open, and hopefully it'll be bigger and better than ever.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Chair recognized Alder Woman Cox.

Thank you, uh Mr.

President.

I do want to um publicly say thank you to you all, my colleagues, um, the clerk staff, so many folks here at City Hall and in the community, um, for your uh prayers, for your uh wishes of condolences on the loss of my long-term legislative aid and dear sister friend, um in honor of uh Akua.

Um this 16th annual girls' day will be this Thursday.

Um we are um calling it the year of the butterfly in honor of her and at this year's girls' day, which will be Thursday, 9 a.m.

to 2 p.m.

here at City Hall.

Registration is closed.

So if you have not pre-registered, sold up, please don't just show up.

But middle and high school age uh young ladies will be exposed to elected women and women and other public service uh careers.

We will also present the 2026 Val Phillips Trailblazer Award winner as well as the 2026 scholarship winner, which this year in honor Vakua, her memory, and her contribution to the creation of Girls Day and so many of the other community centered um projects that we do out of the 6th district on for the entire city.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alder Member Gellis.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Also March 26th in the evening.

To reimagine and redevelop the City Park at 51st and stack.

That meetings at Oklahoma Avenue Lutheran Church.

And then another community meeting Saturday morning at Global Power Components regarding neighborhood traffic that's joint with Milwaukee County Parks, Milwaukee County, and the City of West Allis.

A uh heartfelt congratulations to police officer Fabian Garcia, who came who took first place, the MPD fallen officer Chili Cook Cook fundraiser at District 6.

Myself and our older person Joe Castle Zemaripa with her palapino cornbread came in second.

But congratulations to Officer Garcia for uh taking the trophy in that fundraiser.

Okay, thank you.

Chair recognizes Alder Woman Moore.

Thank you so much, uh Mr.

President.

Um just want to um number one thank my colleagues for their support.

This is one of um my biggest events that's going to be for the year.

Um it's a youth resource fair.

It's called All In All Summer, All Youth All Summer, uh, which will be taking place on April 2nd from 10 to 3 p.m.

at our very own downtown Bayard Center.

Um it's free.

Registration is encouraged but not required.

Um we'll have some giveaway, refreshments.

It's just an opportunity for young that we are we're gonna continue to push that every young person needs to be involved in something this summer, whether it's a summer camp, whether it's an internship, whether it's a job.

We are going to have vendors from that are going to be supporting young people elementary age to college age.

And so we're having I want to encourage parents, I want to encourage mentors, and I want to encourage community partners.

There should be no child sitting at home this summer.

We have too much in the city of Milwaukee.

We have so many resources here in the city of Milwaukee that um, you know, we we have the ability to engage literally every single young person in the city.

And so um I just want to thank um our supporters, um, the city of Milwaukee, the council, um, Wisconsin Community Service, um, the Milwaukee Community Justice Council, um, employ Milwaukee and many others that have supported um this initiative.

Uh, please uh go to City Milwaukee.gov backslash all in.

So Milwaukee.gov backslash all dash in um to register to be a vendor to volunteer.

Going to need all the support that I can get, but please make sure that you're yet letting those young people in your lives let them know that hey, there are opportunities for the summer.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Brower.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

I just want to announce um several events.

We have um we have the No Kings protest coming up this Saturday.

It is so important that we do everything we can to stand up to this demented fascist president that we have um here in Milwaukee from 12 to 3 at the Washington Park Band Shell.

Uh there will be a protest as well as well as one in the third district as well, from one um looks like from one to one thirty according to the general sentinel on Bradford and Downer.

So please show up to protest what's going on that this country uh never has and never will have kings.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair recognizes Owen Taylor.

Thank you so much, Mr.

President.

Just uh wanted to make mention that um in the 9th district, I'm holding having a uh community meeting at the Christian Faith Church on 86th and Good Hope from uh Thursday, March 26th at 5 30 to 7 30.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes uh Alderman Jackson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh want to welcome everybody to the second annual apprenticeship day.

Looking forward to it'll be April 16th from 10 to noon.

Um the doors open at 9 for setup.

Um looking forward to this year.

A student from last year graduated, got into the trades, and will be awarded and presented this year.

Um and actually he was able to work with the recruiter that recruited him last year, got on the same team with him.

She met a worker and looking forward to keep pushing these jobs to our community.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderman Chambers again.

Thank you.

I really appreciate it.

Um I I failed to remiss the locations.

Um sorry.

So the early voting location is gonna be at the Good Hub Library at 7715 West Good Hope uh Road.

The Midtown Voting Center, like I mentioned, it's in the O Dots 4170 North 56th Street.

Sorry, I said 54.

Tippy Canoe Library at 3912 South Howe, UW Wellms Elazo Center at 2419 East Kenwood Boulevard, uh Washington Park Senior Center at 4420 West Felite.

Zablocky Library at 3511 West Oklahoma, and the Xyller Municipal Building at 841 North Broadway.

Um Saturday, Saturday and Sunday hours are only gonna be at the Good Hope Library, the Midtown Library, Tippy Canoe, UW WM, Zablockey, and Xyler.

Um the final week uh Sundays will only be at the midtown location um in Zyler the final week, but everyone uh except Washington Park and Zablockey uh the week of the 29th.

Um and they will be closing for they'll be open from 10 to 4 on Sundays.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Chair recognizes Alderman.

Stamper.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Alderman Jackson and I are hosting a town hall meeting in regards to the potential of uh park lanes being um removed on Sherman Boulevard.

Uh we invite the entire Sherman Park community from the entire sermon.

So uh it will be held at Washington High School April 9th at 530.

April 9th, Washington High School at 530.

I believe it's in the auditorium.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

There being no further announcements and no further business before this council, we are adjourned.