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Milwaukee Public Works Committee Meeting – April 9, 2026

Common CouncilThursday, April 9, 2026
BodyMilwaukee, Wisconsin
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DateThursday, April 9, 2026
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1:25

Good morning.

1:26

I like to call this public works committee meeting to order.

1:30

I am Chairwoman Order Woman me Lele A.

1:34

Cox.

1:35

We are joined to my right by Vice Chair Alderman Lamont Westmoreland.

1:40

We are joined to his right by Alderman uh Robert Baldman.

1:46

We are joined to the left by staff assistant Carmen Roman.

1:50

We are also joined to the left by Alderman Alex Brouwer, and we are joined to his left by uh Alder Woman Larisa Tyler.

1:59

Um item number, we're gonna take um an item out of order.

2:04

Um we're gonna do item number five first, file number two five two zero six zero.

2:10

Uh substitute ordinance renaming South Caesar Shabazz Drive from West Mitchell Street to West Pierce Street, uh South Sixteenth Street.

2:20

The sponsors of this um ordinance are Alderman Perez and Alderwoman Zamarepa.

2:28

Um Mr.

2:28

President, would you like to start off?

2:30

Yes, I would.

2:31

I I appreciate it.

2:32

Um as uh the news has stated uh when the news came out about Cesar Chavez.

2:38

Um immediately heard from community members and the bid on the street about uh changing the name as soon as possible.

2:47

Um there was a consensus around uh returning the street name back to Cesar Chavez, which we can do with twelve votes on the on the council, which I'm hoping will happen by um council day and uh feel confident about that.

3:00

But back to 16th Street.

3:02

Back to 16th Street, and then the community would go through a process through the street naming committee about a community engagement and a process to change the name if if and when they wanted to to another appropriate uh reflection of the community.

3:17

And uh with that said, I just wanted to have this be part of the what I consider the healing and acknowledging um that the street name should go, should those names should be taken down from the street, and the bid is in the process of also changing their name and uh moving that forward, so we appreciate um all the work that everyone's done uh to get prepared for that.

3:39

Thank you.

3:39

Um repaying the thank you, madam chair.

3:44

Um I was at some of the meetings that the president mentioned um that the bid hosted, and I appreciate them assembling stakeholders in the community, and um there is some healing that has to happen.

4:01

Um, like like some folks that have some trepidation about removing the name that was advocated so hard for to really represent the community.

4:09

This is a supermajority um Latino population that Chavez Drive Um runs through.

4:16

Um, I will be removing asking to have my name removed today.

4:20

Um again, I I support the community renaming the street to something culturally appropriate.

4:27

Um changing it back to 16th Street.

4:29

I know it gives um a lot of folks uh um some heartburn.

4:33

Um so I know it's a unique request um because this file does have to happen, but I I don't see that I need to be a co-sponsor.

4:40

I'd like to have my name removed.

4:43

Um, Carmen, is there anything we would have to do for that?

4:48

Administrator I didn't make that motion.

4:50

Okay.

4:51

Umderman Bauman would make the motion to remove Audder Woman's and Maripa as a uh co-sponsor of the legislation.

5:00

Are there any objections to that motion?

5:01

Hearing non-so ordered.

5:04

Thank you.

5:04

Is there any uh questions?

5:06

Um committee.

5:11

All right.

5:12

Um Alderman um Westmoreland would move for passage.

5:17

Are there any objections to that motion?

5:21

Hearing non so ordered.

5:26

All right, uh back to the beginning of the agenda, file number, item number one, file number two five two zero one zero resolution determining it necessary to make various non-accessible public improvements at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes with the city engineering costs estimated to be uh one million five hundred and fifteen thousand for a total estimated cost of these projects being seventeen million eight hundred thousand.

5:57

Uh, we do have a proposed substitute.

6:03

Yes, Audible Man Bauman.

6:05

Is this file have embedded within it both today and at other times?

6:09

A lot of these traffic calming projects or those come to us.

6:14

Can you speak into the microphone, Audiment?

6:17

Hello, Emily Smith, Department of Public Works.

6:19

So the community-led traffic calmings are often embedded into this file, but I believe the multimodal and other funds are not.

6:27

Okay.

6:28

Very good.

6:29

Um Audible and Bomber would make um the motion for a six-step proposed substitute A.

6:37

Hearing objections, so ordered.

6:40

Um can you tell us the difference with the proposed sub and what?

6:43

Yeah, so the sub is to set up additional funding to complete a design for a project that we're looking to get off to contract this year.

6:52

Any other questions from committee?

6:56

Audiment Brower would move uh adoption.

7:01

Are there any objections to that motion?

7:04

Hearing none, so ordered.

7:05

Item number two, file number two five two zero one one, resolution improving construction of non-accessible public improvements at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes with the city construction costs estimated to be one million two hundred and twenty-eight thousand uh dollars for a total estimated cost of these projects being one million six hundred and forty-eight thousand dollars.

7:28

Hello, Emily Smith, Department of Public Works.

7:30

This file is to set up construction funding for various projects.

7:34

Uh, we also have another subject.

7:39

Alder Woman Taylor would move acceptance of proposed substitute A.

7:45

Um, are there any objections to that motion?

7:50

Hearing none so ordered.

7:53

Are there any questions on the sub?

7:56

Um hearing an Audiment Bauman would move uh adoption.

8:00

Hearing objections so ordered.

8:03

Item number three, file number two five two zero seven four appointment of Linda Elmer to the Citizen Advisory Committee on the naming of public buildings, facilities, and streets by the mayor.

8:17

Morning.

8:18

Good morning.

8:21

You want to tell us a little bit about your interest in the committee?

8:24

Um, I've staffed the committee for maybe 15 to 20 years.

8:27

I know it's had an issue getting quorum for those years.

8:30

Um it uh deals with honorary street namings rather than officials street names typically and I'm willing to serve and think it's a it's a good body that actually needs to meet so it can afford the files on the public works committee.

8:42

All right.

8:43

Any questions from committee?

8:47

No, just Linda, thank you so much for continuing to be in bold.

8:53

Oh, thank you.

8:57

All right, Otterman Brower would uh move for confirmation.

9:01

Are there any objections to that motion?

9:04

Hearing non so ordered.

9:05

Thank you.

9:06

Thank you.

9:07

Thank you.

9:09

Uh next up, item four, file number two five two zero seven five appointment of Esperanza Gutierrez to the citizen advisory committee on the naming of public buildings, facilities, and streets by the mayor.

9:27

Miss Gutierrez?

9:28

Yes.

9:29

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your interest in the committee.

9:32

Um I've been uh resident on the wonkee since 1960.

9:37

I'm now 73.

9:40

Um, this is my home.

9:42

And uh I think it's a crucial time timing that this came up, and um I would like to add my voice, his Helatina is a Mexican woman from my daughter that from my father that did do the harvest from Texas all the way to Milwaukee that he decided to uh invest his family's life here.

10:00

Tina is a Mexican woman from my daughter that from a father that did do the harvest from Texas all the way to Milwaukee that he decided to uh invest his family's life here.

10:08

So um I think it's my time to give voice to them.

10:17

Any questions from committee?

10:22

Audible Mazamarupa.

10:24

Thank you.

10:24

Um Madam Chair, I'm not on the committee um Esperanto, but I just wanted to um thank you so much for your leadership.

10:32

And you can hear in Esperanza's remarks uh that she is speaking to the file that you just recently passed um around the renaming of uh the removing of Cesar Chavez's name from um from Cesar Chavez Drive.

10:46

And so I I look forward to her leadership in her role as we make sure that we don't just leave it South 16th Street that we pick something culturally appropriate appropriate to reflect our community, so I can't think of a better person to lead us in that conversation.

11:01

Thank you, Esperanza, for your service.

11:03

Thank you for your words.

11:05

Any other questions or comments?

11:08

Uh West Moana will move confirmation.

11:13

Hearing no objection, so order.

11:15

Thank you.

11:16

Thank you.

11:18

Item number six, file number two, five one nine eight four substitute resolution relating to the acceptance of the average cost of replacing the private uh portion of a lead water service line.

11:35

Good no good morning, Patrick Paulie, waterworks superintendent.

11:39

Um this is the annual requirement to establish the average cost to replace a private side lead service line, which has will be set at $3,454 for 2026.

11:52

This is a fairly significant reduction from 2025 where it was $3,999.

11:58

This is the amount that property owners who do not qualify for the lead service line replacement program and the cost um share that the city offers will pay.

12:09

So um, and actually I should say either this cost, the lower of this cost or the actual cost to replace um is what they will be charged.

12:18

So that's anyone who's part of the owner request program.

12:22

Uh residential buildings greater than four units, commercial properties, and um industrial properties that have lead service lines replaced.

12:32

Any questions from committee?

12:36

Has our owners' request um increased in recent time or no?

12:42

The owner's request.

12:44

We had over 900 um enrollees.

12:48

We are working through the list.

12:51

We completed 75 last year.

12:54

We've got about 135 scheduled for this year, and then the intent is to offer the opportunity to 200 um property owners per year, although we may we may adjust that depending on how many property owners um agreed to join the program and what capacity we have in the remainder of the program.

13:15

But yes, and and we have not publicized it since early 2024, meaning we sent a postcard to everyone in 2024, and then the majority of those 900 um enrollees responded to that postcard.

13:30

We will probably be sending another postcard um not this year but maybe next year to see if there's any more interest in it.

13:39

Madam Chair.

13:42

Is the price adjusted for those already paying uh 3,999 to the is not adjusted for it is not adjusted.

13:51

Right, once right, they are subject to the price that's in effect at the time of the replacement.

13:56

They so there's a benefit obviously to having us to perform the work because it's less costly than if they would retain their own plumber, and then they are allowed to repay that amount over 15 years on their property taxes as a special assessment.

14:12

Okay, thank you.

14:14

Any other questions on committee?

14:20

Hearing none honor woman Tyler will move adoption.

14:24

Are there any objections to that motion?

14:26

Hearing none, so ordered.

14:28

Item number seven, file number two five one nine eight file communication relating to semi-annual reporting to the common council by the Milwaukee Waterworks and the Department of Public Works regarding lead service line replacements.

14:44

Uh this should be okay.

14:47

Michelle Notarajan, water quality manager, Milwaukee Waterworks.

14:51

Carmen, I may need your assistance.

14:53

I'm gonna bring this up on the left.

16:07

Thank you.

16:09

All right, Patrick Pauley Waterworks Superintendent.

16:11

We're here to deliver the semi-annual lead service line replacement report.

16:16

I will certainly questions are welcome at any time, but I'm going to scan through some of the review slides really quickly, the lead basics, the drawing of the lead service line.

16:30

We've been over these a number of times.

16:47

The ordinance that went into effect in 2017 and then the adjustment to the ordinance in January 2024, removing the cost share for eligible properties are most important on this slide.

17:41

Well over 20 for service line replacements.

17:43

Yes.

17:44

And there's a number of reasons, it's related to the permit fees, it's how they do their work.

17:48

It's related to how close their water services to the sanitary lateral.

17:54

A lot of their properties don't have meters when they go in.

17:58

But seven the industry average is a little over 10, or national average is a little over 10 from everything we hear.

18:05

So $7,389 is a is a very competitive price.

18:10

It likely will rise, hopefully, just gradually as we move forward.

18:18

So how many contractors do we have doing this work?

18:22

Is there a one is it a single bid every year, or is there our are they broken into packages?

18:27

You know, how how are we how are we bidding out this work?

18:30

How many contractors are involved?

18:31

Have we seen new contractors come into the business?

18:35

We we bid out packages of varying sizes from 200 services all the way up to a thousand to try to create the biggest bidding pool we can.

18:50

There have been some new entries over the years, but the the bidders most recently two to just two to three companies, and we have two primary companies doing the majority of work in 2026.

19:05

Um NPL and Five Star, which they're both companies that do a lot of um gas or electric or fiber optic utility installations that have pivoted to the water industry because they can drill in the water service lines similar to how they drill in those other utilities.

19:24

Some of our contractors that also work on water main replacement projects do bid occasionally on the lead service lines, and occasionally they win a service line contract, but the two five star and MPL, which are new to our market.

19:40

I mean, they they were not part of the bidding pool.

19:42

Milwaukee companies, or I suspect not.

19:45

Uh they're both um they both work in many states.

19:49

I believe five-star may have a more of a local I I can't answer that.

19:55

They both have I don't know what their local presence or footprint is.

19:59

Okay.

20:12

Okay thanks any other questions from committee all right uh no I'll remember uh honor member yeah thank you so much so again just you know I'm really really glad that we're moving forward with this and continuing to do replacements it looks like um how many replacements are gonna be planning on doing this yeah I'm it's five thousand total that's great and thirty eight hundred prioritized and then the the base program which is leaks failures child cares.

20:42

Got it.

20:43

And then how how many total do we estimate that there are remaining then it's a little under sixty five thousand remaining at this point.

20:51

Okay.

20:51

And is that after the five thousand or or prior that's that's prior as right now because of right approximately sixty five thousand lead laterals and then we're so our our attempt overall as you as you've said before is to replace all of these throughout the city then our intent and the BPA lead and copper rule improvements require full replacement by the end of 2037.

21:16

Okay that's what I want that's what I wanted to get out from you yep by end of 2037.

21:19

Okay I know you've said that before but I just you know I have constituents that are that are really concerned about this as an issue.

21:24

I will just say too that I you know am also equally if not more concerned you know about lead paint exposure as well you know and that's something that you know we have talked about at this committee pack prior as well but all these things you know the all this all this no lead exposure is safe um for anybody in my opinion so I just I um you know Superintendent I really appreciate your work on this thank you.

21:45

You're welcome here I don't are we still leaving the old lead service line in the ground yes you know that can be recycled.

21:55

Yes you have mentioned that and the last time you mentioned that I went by and make some calls and actually a company reached out to me about potentially collecting the lead we do gather and recycling it for us.

22:06

We do not take a lot of lead out of the ground um just basically at the connection point in the street and then at the connection point in the home there's a small couple feet long most pieces anymore basically because we are no we are not trenching the new service gets installed adjacent to but sometimes two, three, four feet away from the existing and drilled into the ground and so it would it would cost more to trench and remove that than yeah we do enjoy savings then from not trenching and just doing a parallel reinstallment yes and that's one of the reasons the cost is way down is because the companies now are drilling from the roadway right into the basement and they can hit a spot you know one feet by one foot to come up and connect so they can do multiple service replacements in a given day with a four or five person crew.

23:00

Okay.

23:02

What what's the effects of leaving the land though over time?

23:05

What's the effect?

23:07

Well I may defer to Michelle but one of the curses of lead is it's incredibly durable.

23:16

It I mean the reason we have lead service lines in the ground 150 years old and there I believe there are some in Europe that are many hundreds of years old is it does not deteriorate but I think slowly over time it will it will break down.

23:30

Michelle do you want to weigh in on this pretty deep at that point so hopefully not uh major exposure risk.

23:42

Um but ultimately it's going back to kind of where it came from question about that I'm sure um honor member yeah so I'm just imagining I mean I I really appreciate that question because I'm imagining that would be a localized contamination unless there's a massive amount of water filtration through the soil or something that would cause particulates in the future.

24:04

I mean this isn't happening immediately I'm assuming we're talking decades, decades or hundreds of years in the future this will yeah and if if humanity is still around in hundred few hundred years well then well I guess we'll have to deal with it then but um there's not a risk there would what you're suggesting is there wouldn't be an immediate risk to an individual either now or even at the point of deterioration because we don't you know not everybody has a well that's drawing from below that in our house we have a municipal service system so there would be minimal exposure risk is that kind of what you're what you're saying because of it's just buried in one spot and sits on the earth based on the depth it's not um a huge risk to people interacting with the soil at the surface obviously that's not a perfect system soil can get disturbed you know things get dug up but it's yeah it's the only like mo most of the lead if it leaches is probably going to bind to the soil particles and maybe gradually work its way down but we're not uh yeah using groundwater for our um our drinking water source so um we don't have that kind of risk of contaminating our groundwater um and it's not likely to move up substantially to be able to contaminate the soil.

25:00

Um, but it's yeah, it's the only like mo most of the lead, if it leaches, is probably gonna bind to the soil particles and maybe gradually work its way down, but we're not uh yeah, using groundwater for our um our drinking water source, so um we don't have that kind of risk of contaminating our groundwater, um, and it's not likely to move up substantially to be able to contaminate the soil.

25:17

Now, granted, we live in an urban area, and many of the soils in our community already do have lead contamination.

25:24

So um, and that could be from gasoline, leaded gasoline or other historic reasons.

25:29

So that's not to say that the soil is necessarily safe.

25:32

It should be tested and um and people should wash their hands after touching it, but uh but yeah, I don't think that the lead service lines specifically are um a very dangerous contributor at this point.

25:44

Thank you.

25:46

The SARS lines are in some the land service lines are in some concentrated areas though, right?

25:53

They're in the older parts of the city, yeah.

25:57

So in your um your thoughts to that response to the questions that we just had.

26:04

Um I get what you're saying so far as like individualized, but when you think of the totality of the neighborhoods that they're in, you still feel the way that you do about it.

26:16

I mean, I think the alternative would be trenching them all and and recycling it, and I think that comes with its own risks and and I don't know, trauma to the neighborhood for lack of a better term.

26:27

So I'm not sure that it's worth it to dig them up.

26:30

Um I'm not I I don't believe that it um presents an immediate risk because of how deep it is, and I feel like digging it up could present more immediate risks.

26:42

How much is trenching well?

26:51

I would speculate that it would add an at minimum another 50% to the cost because right now there's very little excavation associated with these projects.

27:05

They're small excavation in the road, uh smaller excavation right in the front yard.

27:10

We're talking about having them spend time to dig all the way from the road right up to the house, basically, and then pull that pipe out and backfill that area and then restore.

27:22

So then we're working, and then in that instance, we are actually digging on private property, which brings a whole other level of concern related to liability and damage, and because one of the so I would say a minimum of 50% more, so four thousand dot dollars, but that's and the other cities that are also doing this kind of work, do they uh do it similarly to the way we currently do it?

27:50

Do any of them trench?

27:52

I believe Chicago may be trenching.

27:56

I don't know if they're trenching all of them, but I know they are trenching some of them because of the difficulty of installing the service line and where the sanitary lateral is, and I think in some instances they are required to replace both at the same time because they're so close together and because of their state EPA for lack of a better rule and their rules.

28:16

So I think Chicago is open cutting some of theirs.

28:20

I believe the great majority of um municipalities are doing it the way we're doing it.

28:26

Thank you.

28:27

Any other questions from committee?

28:29

I don't know what's more.

28:30

Just for reference, how deep is it are these lines?

28:33

Four feet typically, right?

28:35

Yeah, they're supposed to be a minimum of five feet.

28:38

Um most of them are closer to six feet.

28:41

And say we were to trench and remove, what is the risk or what are the cons to doing that?

28:48

Potential.

28:50

Like I know you said they're strong, but potentially could they break and like what are the risk?

28:57

So any lead that's already um come off of those pipes is now being exposed as you're you know, digging down to those levels and you're displacing soil that you know becomes airborne and then can get in people's windowsills and become more accessible to people consuming it.

29:16

Uh and then of course it's just very like as he spoke to you're digging on private property, you're disrupting large areas.

29:23

If you think about doing these replacements block by block, I can only imagine the disruption that would cause to a neighborhood to just have every home, you know, have a giant trench in front of it.

29:33

I even with the small um holes that are dug now when they're when we aren't able to fully restore them right away, it can sometimes cause a bit of a a trip hazard or a um disruption to the neighborhood.

29:47

So making that a much larger trench for every single house where we're doing this just seems like a safety hazard and um and a very unpleasant way for the community to live until that's restored.

29:58

But you say one day they would have to come out.

30:01

No.

30:01

No, I didn't say that.

30:02

We're not saying that.

30:03

No.

30:03

So they're they're good.

30:05

Forever.

30:06

Forever.

30:07

Okay.

30:08

All right, thank you.

30:09

Sure.

30:10

Any other questions from committee?

30:12

Yeah, Memor.

30:13

I don't remember.

30:14

Yeah, no, and I appreciate you guys fielding these questions because this is a such a hot issue in our community.

30:17

Our constituents have a lot of questions about these.

30:19

I've been, you know, for constituents that have reached out to my office.

30:22

I've referred them to other times when you guys are presented.

30:24

Um so I appreciate that.

30:25

And I think the immediate I mean, I can I can see the concern with with just leaving it in the ground because we're leaving a contaminant in the in the soil.

30:33

Um I think the the given the fact that we don't have the resources to do everything we want all at once immediately, in any case of any of the stuff we do here at City Hall or anywhere in this world, but um you know the most immediate danger with the lead pipe comes from the exposure that could happen with the water that's going through the pipe.

30:52

So replacing the pipe with a copper lateral, I mean it is the most immediate expeditious way to eliminate that that particular lead exposure um concern.

31:01

So I'll just you know, just for that, I'll just you know throw that out there that I think the like this, what you guys are talking about, this trenchless doing it allows us to do more, and so therefore we have more impact and like can reduce the hazards.

31:13

Um you know, and with the soil contamination, I mean the lead paint and and the remnants from gasoline exposure, you know, are all over the place.

31:21

I mean, like you can walk down to any neighborhood in the third district or or you know, the 14th or the sixth or the fourth or any of these areas or anywhere on the north side too, and see the you know the lead painted cracks in a certain way, and then it's peeling off and entering the soil, and there's a you know, it's a huge exposure risk that you know we I mean, I don't I am not even sure how many billions of dollars it would tackle it would take to you know remediate that entire problem around this entire country or even here in Milwaukee, you know, with with just the lead the paint exposure as well.

31:52

Um, but just wanted to offer those thoughts.

31:54

Thank you.

31:56

Any other comments from committee?

32:00

All right.

32:01

Um we we're not taking questions at this time.

32:08

We're not taking questions at this time.

32:11

Umbama will move supplies on Iowa.

32:15

Were you done?

32:16

We were not there's still like 40 slides left.

32:22

Well, that's not 40.

32:23

And I'll and I'll just hit the high point.

32:26

So our goal for 25 was 3,500 replacements.

32:29

We did not meet that goal, 3329.

32:32

That was partly due to the inclement weather in December.

32:35

We lost 10 days of work, and then the primary reason was we had less replacements in our base program than anticipated, partly due to water main relays and paving projects, but we're we're well, I guess I'll leave it at that.

32:50

We did not meet it, and um we came close but didn't quite get there.

32:55

Um the customer outreach, nothing has changed.

32:58

Um I'm gonna turn over the scientific portion of the presentation to Michelle.

33:04

Okay, so I always like to start um with this slide for anyone who is new to the committee or needs a refresher.

33:10

Our water uh lead testing procedure generally involves a three-bottle uh procedure.

33:16

So the first bottle we ask the homeowner or the resident to collect the water after it's been sitting in the pipes for at least six hours.

33:23

And the first water that they capture in bottle number one is intended to be the water that's been sitting in those internal pipes and fixtures, so we have an understanding of where the lead is coming from.

33:33

And for a lead service line replacement replacement test, which is the majority of what we're doing, that's the most critical sample because we've already removed the lead service line and we're just trying to check to make sure all the construction debris is flushed out of their plumbing and um that there isn't still a significant source from their internal plumbing.

33:49

Um is collected about 45 seconds later, and this is intended to be representative of the water that's been sitting in their service line, and then sample three is three minutes later, the faucet is running throughout this process, and that's intended to capture that water that has coming fresh from the water main and has had minimal time in contact with internal plumbing or service line.

34:12

And then the note above just highlights that the prioritization project that's implemented by our um owners rep is only doing one bottle testing since it's all lead service line replacement, and so we are considering transitioning all of our lead service line replacement testing to that one bottle procedure going forward since that's the L CRI requirement.

34:31

Next slide.

34:33

This is a summary of the testing conducted between July and December.

34:37

Um we tested 329 samples from almost 200 properties, and um you can see that the prioritization done by our um owners rep is the same number of samples and properties because they're doing the one bottle test, whereas the other internal tests are often three bottle procedures, so they're more samples tests and fewer properties tested.

35:00

The first three categories on this table are all lead service line replacement related.

35:03

So those are all after the service line has been removed and the are not removed, but the copper has been installed.

35:09

And then the fourth category is for homes where children have elevated blood lead levels, so we can identify if water could be a contributing factor.

35:17

And then finally, we have some kind of miscellaneous customer service calls where we do lead tests occasionally.

35:23

We did test nine properties that currently have a lead service line.

35:27

And one lead service line sample was above 10 parts per billion, the rest were low.

35:32

And I'll talk more about those in the future slides.

35:36

So our average lead results for all the samples tested between July and December were all below three parts per billion.

35:44

You can see the bottle one was higher than bottles two and three, as you would expect because most of these are after the lead service line has been replaced, and that bottle one is indicative of the internal plumbing or any lead service line replacement construction material that may need to be flushed out of their plumbing.

36:02

We have no way of excuse me, ma'am chair.

36:06

Go ahead.

36:07

We have no way of determining what the pre-LED service line level would have been.

36:14

We did do some pre-lead service line replacement testing a couple years ago.

36:19

We unfortunately found that a lot of uh residents were if they complied with that testing, they wouldn't then follow through on the post-testing, and we wanted to make sure that after construction, all the construction materials did get effectively flushed out.

36:32

So we didn't continue that, but we do have some data previously from the pre-testing.

36:46

It does reduce it to an extent, yes.

36:48

To an extent.

36:49

Yes.

36:50

It's not, I mean, thankfully, our our concentrate our lead concentrations before the lead service line replacement typically are not super high.

36:58

We do do our lead and copper rule sampling indicates we have a 90th percentile of around five or six part per billion.

37:05

So that's a little higher than what you're seeing here, which these are mostly after a replacement.

37:09

So it is a reduction.

37:11

Thankfully, both of those numbers are below the 10 part per billion proposed.

37:15

But not in elimination.

37:16

So there's still lead in the water in most residential properties.

37:20

Many, especially many old homes have some fixtures or components of their lead plumbing that are if they're plumbing that container.

37:31

Whether or not it's marginal would be, I think, for discussion with health professionals in terms of the health effects of those concentrations.

37:39

Some are way up there.

37:40

I mean, you have 10 properties exceeding 10 parts per billion.

37:45

Right?

37:46

I think it was 12 properties.

37:48

12 properties.

37:49

Yeah.

37:50

I mean, that's doesn't seem to be a lot of improvement.

37:52

I mean, to be honest with you, unless unless that's still internal plumbing, perhaps.

37:56

So it may be internal plumbing.

37:58

The main purpose of this post-testing is to make sure that their flushing was was done and was effective.

38:04

And so in some of these cases, the the resident didn't do the flushing that was recommended after the construction.

38:10

So when we get these results, we immediately call them and ask them to do this flushing procedure, remove the aerators on their sinks, do a cold water flush throughout all the faucets in their home, and then we offer them another kit to retest, and all of our retest results in this period have been low.

38:26

So that indicates that typically if people do do the proper flushing after the lead service line replacement, it does bring the levels down.

38:34

So typically when we see these high results, it's just that the flushing wasn't done enough or properly.

38:41

Okay.

38:41

Sometimes people don't know how to remove aerators or even what an aerator is, so that's something we've been trying to find creative ways to communicate with customers more.

38:52

Okay, thanks.

38:53

Sure.

38:54

Um so yeah, 17 samples from 12 different properties did have results above 10 parts per billion.

38:59

Um most of these were after a lead service line replacement, and bottle one is usually the highest.

39:05

Uh all of our child care lead service line replacement results were low, which is good.

39:09

And like I mentioned, we did do flush and retest at four sites, and all of those retest results were below 10 parts per billion.

39:20

This is just a table summarizing where those elevated levels came from, uh, how elevated they were, and then notes on retesting, but we've basically kind of gone through all these so we can go to the next slide.

39:33

Uh this is uh quick graphs of our pH and orthophosphate results between July and December of 2025.

39:39

We report these to the DNR every month to demonstrate that our water chemistry is appropriate for maintaining the corrosion control treatment that we do.

39:47

So the picture you can see in the bottom right corner shows you kind of what it should look like when you remove a lead service line.

39:52

You can see that the phosphate corrosion control that we add creates a lining inside the pipe to stop the lead from leaching into the water as much as possible.

40:03

Um couple other program notes.

40:05

So our elevated blood lead level testing continues with the health department.

40:09

Anytime a child uh tests at 15 micrograms per deciliter or over, there's a nurse going and doing uh visits, so the nurse brings a water testing kit and offers that to the family.

40:19

Uh we have had five properties follow through on that testing.

40:23

Most results are very low.

40:25

We did have one bottle one sample that was 10.96 part per billion.

40:29

So that was um we did reach out to that family, they did not um accept a retest kit, um, but all other results were below five, so that's a good sign.

40:41

And then the lead and copper rule sampling, we this will change when the LCRI goes into effect at the end of next year, but right now it's an every three-year requirement from the EPA.

40:51

We test at um homes that have a lead service line that have been testing with us for years typically.

40:56

Although, you know, people move and things change, and so we do have to every year kind of go through the list and figure out okay, did any lead service lines get replaced on this list?

41:04

Do we um is anybody being non-responsive for decades?

41:08

Like at a certain point, you can remove them from the list and um add new names.

41:12

So we're going through that process right now of removing uh homes that aren't no longer um eligible or communicative and adding new homes so that we can be ready to do the required sampling between June and December and September.

41:28

And then we also did a pilot test between July and December, uh you working with MPS to test lead and water in 29 different schools.

41:37

The LCRI requires five samples per school, but we did seven because of their some ambiguity in terms of where the samples are collected.

41:45

Uh and so our average result from this testing was about three part per billion, but there was quite a range.

41:51

So MPS worked with us to um remediate any sites where they did have elevated results, so they added filters or made changes to their plumbing as needed in response to the the elevated results.

42:03

Um and you know, it was just a great opportunity for us to like develop contacts and work through the process of how we'll coordinate that sampling and testing and get the results out so that when the LCRI goes into effect, we'll be prepared to um test at a more rapid pace.

42:20

And this slide has been up in the last several meetings, just kind of summarizing some of the L CRI changes.

42:26

Uh and then the only change really was highlighting that that pilot testing did occur in fall of 2025.

42:33

So we are taking lessons from that and preparing to hopefully start more school and child care testing as soon as possible.

42:42

Honor Brower.

42:43

Yeah, thank you.

42:44

Um so going back just a few slides for the elevated blood level um testing.

42:49

Um, like okay, when we f just so for my clarification here, when we are testing these water samples um at the home when the nurse performs that or has the family performed that, I'm not sure exactly what you said earlier, but um uh like obviously you listed one bottle uh sample number one was 10.96 parts per billion.

43:10

Um does that does that then cause that house to be on the list then for a lead service replacement, or how does that how does this um elevated blood level um sampling?

43:22

I mean, obviously we can you know filters all that stuff.

43:24

I mean, that's an immediate solution that people should implement.

43:27

But does that how does that interact with then our list of homes that are having their um lead service lines replaced?

43:34

I mean, especially if they're in one of our target neighborhoods, or is the target neighborhood fully the priority?

43:38

Could you kind of explain how that interacts, please?

43:40

Yeah, absolutely.

43:41

Um so we had set our threshold when the EPA action level was 15 parts per billion, and we also, based on the three bottle test, we figured bottle two would be the most critical since that's the water from the service line.

43:53

And so we told at the beginning of starting this project, we said, okay, if bottle two exceeds 15 parts per billion, then we can um discuss doing like an emergency replacement, like adding this to the list as a 15 will be repression.

44:07

And so that was kind of the threshold that we set.

44:09

Um since the EPA has passed a law that will change the action level to 10 parts per billion, so that may be worth revisiting.

44:16

Um but it is also worth noting that in this particular case it was bottle number one, which is usually more indicative of the internal plumbing.

44:24

Um so I don't know if a lead service line replacement would actually resolve the issue for this particular home.

44:30

Um and what options are you aware of that a homeowner or a resident would have regarding their internal plumbing, besides just paying out of pocket or a second mortgage or something?

44:41

As far as I know, that would be up to them, or I think there are some um some city grants and stuff available for different kinds of home renovations, but I don't know the details of those.

44:50

Um I think that the biggest problem with that is that most of these situations are tenants, and so they don't feel like they have control over the situation.

45:05

Thank you.

45:07

Any other questions?

45:09

All right, the motion by Alder Woman Taylor is to place unfiled in the done.

45:15

I mean, I have sure I would like to get I interrupted I interrupted them once again.

45:22

I would like to have the um I think most of it's all right.

45:26

Now two minutes.

45:27

Um most important related to funding is 2026 is the last year of funding from um President Biden's bipartisan infrastructure law.

45:36

When we met last met, we hadn't received an award for 2025.

45:41

We did receive 50.5 million dollars, 19.3 of which is principal forgiveness, which will be used to cover the private side replacement for all the replacements done in 2026 and potentially some in 2027.

45:54

We intend to apply this this June, we intend to apply for two years of funding.

45:59

So and we've already made the DNR aware we're gonna put in a very big ask.

46:03

Um prioritization program is well underway.

46:06

Um a number of you are probably aware of that because we have neighborhoods in your districts.

46:12

Next year we're going to increase by 500, and we talked about the owner request program in the last item.

46:17

So that is it.

46:20

And that's our footprint.

46:24

What kind of what's the process for notifying neighbors that they're next up until 2026?

46:31

So I see there's two in my district, it looks like N11 and N7.

46:34

I think your map is not too precise here.

46:38

I think that's the Cold Spring neighborhood.

46:40

They receive notices.

46:42

I think in January.

46:44

Or the landlord.

46:45

And then if if we get their consent back, then the next step in the process is when the contractor reaches out for a pre-construction meeting and to schedule the work.

46:54

If they don't consent to that first notice, the second notice is sent.

46:58

Um we did hold town hall, in-person town hall meetings, and a virtual meeting for each package of locations that we did.

47:07

So we've held um six in-person meetings and three virtual meetings.

47:13

We have we started things really.

47:15

Cold Spring we did, yes.

47:17

Um there's a resident of yours that had reached out, and she's invited us to speak at the Cold Spring annual meeting.

47:24

Oh, very good.

47:25

Okay, so I will just that's what I'm I'm asking.

47:28

Yes, so we will send I'm not available, but we will send at least one rep there to discuss where we stand and when the very initially reached out about holding a neighborhood meeting, then I never heard anything further.

47:39

So they've reached out to you direct, and and your people are attending the annual meeting.

47:43

Yes.

47:43

Okay, that's perfect.

47:46

Yep.

47:49

Mr.

47:50

Chair.

47:51

Alder Woman Taylor.

47:52

So my we were just having this conversation because uh Alderman Brower brought us something about uh taking out a second mortgage to get those service lines replaced.

48:03

And so we were looking at it.

48:04

So that $3,454, I think, is only for that service line on that one slide where it's coming from the street to the house.

48:13

That's that's all that's going to be replaced at that $3,454.

48:19

The 3454 is just for the portion from the property line to the meter in the in the house.

48:25

In the house, okay.

48:26

Yeah, the other half half the other segment in the roadway is replaced at the expense of the of the waterworks.

48:33

Okay.

48:34

But at your to your question, it does not include any pumming plumbing internal past the meter.

48:40

And that's all has to be done by the owner's cost.

48:45

Yes, depending on the material.

48:48

No, I mean it there's no requirement that it be done, but depending on the materials.

48:55

Okay, I just wanted to be sure what that $3,454 was, because I was under the impression that the whole thing would be done, and if it was some replacement done inside too, that that would be done with that, but okay.

49:07

Oh it's true.

49:08

Go ahead.

49:09

Yeah, and just to further that, yeah, I mean that's that's one of the issues.

49:12

I mean, we're if we're saying we're operating with a presumption that any lead exposure is bad, which I agree with that, you know, we have the service line, we're taking care of that with this program.

49:21

We potentially have paint in the house, there could be soil contamination, there's and then there's the house's internal plumbing that you know, and all the stuff in there that could be a completely that could potentially be original plumbing infrastructure in that house from when that house was constructed that could be lead as well, and then that I mean, and that's like completely out of our you know hands, and as far as a city government perspective is concerned, and that's just and then you and then if the house is owned by a landlord that doesn't feel like making lead exposure reduction a priority, well that is unfortunately their choice because of private property rights in this country.

49:54

I think it's important though to recognize that the lead service line prevents presents the pie far the greatest risk to lead release.

50:03

It's a hundred percent lead for 40 or 60 feet long.

50:08

The internal plumbing, there is risk associated there.

50:12

Um depending on what the material is and what the joint to material is and what the but the by far the biggest risk is from the lead service line itself.

50:22

And then we talk about flushing for three minutes, and Michelle mentioned that when we get to that third bottle and you're getting water from the street, there's typically non-detect levels of lead or one part per billion.

50:34

If we remove the service line, and we're still gonna be adding orthophosphate to the water to create that barrier inside the internal plumbing, and we're still probably gonna be talking about flushing and quite honestly.

50:46

No matter what your service line is, I would think our water quality manager would recommend it.

50:52

You flush a little bit before you use the water in the morning because any any water that sits stagnant and ages is not going to be as um how do I say this?

51:03

It's not gonna be as refreshing as the fresh water from from the main.

51:08

So we're at we're the we're reducing the risk significantly by removing the lead service line.

51:17

Okay.

51:21

But you're correct, the internal plumbing, because I I I I've done all this actually.

51:25

Uh-huh.

51:26

Actually, the internal plumbing is way more expensive than the service line replacement before on your I mean there's uh the compliance loan.

51:33

Well, I don't know if that would help at all.

51:35

I have you do that, you can get through DC.

51:40

Um, I mean and then there's revitalizing KE.

51:45

Are they maybe they could I don't know.

51:48

Yeah, those are some resources that I've pointed people to in the past, but again, I'm not those are not my areas of expertise, so I share with them some websites and some information and cross my fingers that they can find what they need.

52:02

Oh wow.

52:03

That was that was thank you so much.

52:05

Sure.

52:07

Internal plumbing can be very expensive to replace.

52:09

Yes, because you're going through walls, you're behind walls, yes, multiple floors, you're it can be very disruptive.

52:16

But uh to um Superintendent Pauli's point, flushing is highly effective in almost every situation.

52:23

So when we do this three bottle testing, we when we were doing the testing before the lead service line replacement to get the pre and post results.

52:30

We saw in the pre-results when there was still a lead service line that um you know, even whether you have a lead service line and or lead plumbing, you flush that water for three minutes, and in most cases it's very, very low lead concentrations.

52:44

So, you know, if there's one thing that everyone can do regardless of whether they own their home or not, regardless of whether they're in the prioritization area or not, they can at least flush their tap if it's been sitting stagnant overnight or while they're at work all day.

52:57

Um just flush that cold water for a few minutes before you actually use it for drinking or cooking.

53:02

You can still use that what you don't have to waste that water, you can use that to do your dishes um and other things, but you just don't want to use it for cooking or drinking until you flush it for a couple minutes.

53:11

Okay, Mr.

53:12

Yeah, go ahead.

53:13

Yeah, thank you.

53:13

And so no, no, and that's and that's great.

53:15

I mean, I like if that's what I have told people as well as constituents that like flushing it, and it looks like from this diagram from one of these uh slides that if it by the time three minutes hits a flushing, I mean that's from the main.

53:25

And I want to confirm what I believe I know this, but I want to confirm that the the constitution, the composition of the um main uh pipe, there is no we are not aware of any lead that is in those at all.

53:37

Those are a different material, and and I mean, I guess maybe there's a historical reason why the main that we installed would be bum material and the lateral would be made of lead.

53:45

I if you guys know if you guys know that'd be curious about that, but the mains do not have lead in them.

53:49

Yeah, they typically didn't make uh pipes of that diameter, like our mains are you know several inches in diameter, right?

53:56

And they don't go usually above two inches.

53:58

Two inches is the largest lead service line pipe that we have in our diameter, yeah, the diameter, and the the water mains are we do have some four-inch, but they're primarily six eights for the residential, and they're all cast iron or ductile iron.

54:13

Okay.

54:15

Thank you.

54:16

Sure.

54:16

Any other questions?

54:20

That's good.

54:20

Guys, third times the chart.

54:23

Yeah.

54:25

All right, we're visiting that motion for all the woman tailored a place to place on file.

54:29

Any objections here in unso ordered.

54:31

Thank you.

54:32

Item eight, thank you.

54:33

Thank you both.

54:34

252 000 resolution authorizing the Wisconsin Department of Transportation to convert access and authorized portions of one city owned property for the South Lincoln Memorial Drive project from Jones Street to Car Ferry Drive in the fourth Aldermanic district.

54:57

Good morning.

54:58

Good morning, David Tappy, major projects manager.

55:00

So this is a port uh led project.

55:05

They they got the federal grant um to rebuild the road.

55:10

And in order to uh improve it, um, we need to convert some of the city-owned property to basically roadway right-of-way.

55:20

So any questions.

55:24

Uh motion by all their men bauman is adoption.

55:27

Any objections here and so ordered.

55:31

Item nine, two five two zero zero four resolution authorizing the city comp troler to transfer funds to the previously established project for the Wisconsin Department of Transportation and the City of Milwaukee for cost participation for the procurement and construction of the bike share expansion project with a total estimated cost increase for the project of two million seventy-four hundred dollars and seventy-four thousand three hundred and ninety-five dollars.

56:02

Good morning.

56:03

Uh good morning, Chair.

56:05

I believe there's a substitute for this file.

56:07

Motion to uh first accept propose uh other woman Taylor uh hearing no objections, so ordered uh second now to adapt.

56:22

A technical correction.

56:29

The I can explain it if easiest.

56:32

Yeah, the substitute just uh uh revises the language, it's not a cost increase to the project.

56:40

It's uh just transferring funds to an already established project, we're not increasing cost.

56:46

Okay.

56:48

Oh there on the yeah, it it hasn't been matching up.

56:54

So I was looking at our agenda, and I'm like, why her seven on one and mine is on two in the minor changes uh paragraph?

57:35

And this is what they're proposing now.

57:37

So we've already accepted you accepted a proposed.

57:41

There are no objections, we just have to accept what is there.

57:44

Adopt it.

57:45

Okay, motion by honorable tailor to adopt the proposed subject.

57:50

Perfect.

57:51

Any objections to that order order?

57:55

Any objections to that motion?

57:57

There we go.

58:00

Okay.

58:02

Good morning.

58:02

Mike Ansden, Transportation Planning Manager, DPW.

58:05

This file simply sets up the procurement and construction costs for the already established project for the expansion of the bubbler bike share system.

58:14

So this is bubbler.

58:15

Correct.

58:16

Okay.

58:21

Sure.

58:22

Yes, sir.

58:22

Yeah, um, could you just share what uh where some of these costs will be going and uh about it?

58:28

Sure.

58:28

Uh so this grant, this is CMAC congestion mitigation and air quality grant that we were awarded, I believe two years ago.

58:34

Uh it provides uh 165 new docking stations, so the individual docks, um, not the full stations, but the individual docks, and 300 e-bikes, the e-assist bikes.

58:47

Um, so we'll be uh densifying the system but also expanding the system and replacing some of the older uh bikes that have been in the system for quite some time with the electronic assist bikes.

59:00

That's really great to hear.

59:01

This is really good to hear.

59:02

Thank you so much uh for the work on this.

59:04

Um and so on, how many docking stations are in?

59:06

I mean, what is it like seven or eight?

59:08

You know, but when we make an installation, yeah.

59:11

So as part of what we're calling Bubbler 2.0, uh, which is a combination of this grant and then a previously awarded uh tap grant.

59:19

We are actually uh kind of reimagining the entire system.

59:22

We're expanding it out into new neighborhoods.

59:25

We are uh looking at station utilization throughout the system, and with these new docks, they're the their individual docks.

59:32

We used to have these these large stations that came kind of as a set of at least, I believe it was six minimum, so intervals of six, twelve, eighteen.

59:42

We are now able to customize the station size and then be a lot more flexible in terms of where they're installed.

59:47

So we really look at utilization trips, uh uh, etc.

59:51

And then we can make a station as small as four docs and as large as you know, you go to Discovery World, we have upwards of you know 14 docks, so it can really vary.

1:00:02

Well, that's really good to hear.

1:00:03

So we could look at a neighborhood that has less bike utilization and just put one or two down, um, and say, okay, there's there's a couple bikes and see if it works and maybe expand, and that could be the way that we could move towards you know, less car usage and all that stuff, and just for people to be able to try it out in those in the neighborhoods where there's more car dependency.

1:00:24

Absolutely.

1:00:24

Yeah, I think we prefer minimum four, just to be clear, but thank you.

1:00:27

We don't want the uh station or the two docks being full all the time or empty all the time.

1:00:33

Because the bikes that we have, I mean, they have to be docked.

1:00:35

Correct.

1:00:36

For that's for it to for it to complete the um transaction and not the person stopping charged.

1:00:41

And we it's not we're not talking about this in like there's no way that bubbler does anything like what Lyme is doing where somebody can just rest a bike, you know, blocking the sidewalk like all the scooters do.

1:00:50

Um I'd be a little silly there because actually not allowed to do, but um, you know, they they can't just rest it, it has to be put back in a in a station, if I'm correct, right?

1:00:57

Correct.

1:00:58

Yep, that's how the bubbler bike share system works.

1:01:00

Cool.

1:01:01

Thank you, Mr.

1:01:02

Chair.

1:01:03

You're welcome.

1:01:04

Any other questions?

1:01:06

Hearing no order.

1:01:07

Thank you.

1:01:08

Uh motion by Alderman Bauman.

1:01:11

It's adoption.

1:01:12

Hearing no objections, so ordered.

1:01:16

Item 10.

1:01:20

252 015 resolution resolution authorizing a permanent limited easement and temporary limited easement with the Wisconsin Department of Transportation on the properties at 8505 West Appleton Avenue and 8520 ADJ West Appleton Avenue for the right to construct and maintain the sidewalk in the second and fifth Alderman district.

1:01:49

Hi, good morning.

1:01:53

Uh they do a Wisconsin Department of Transportation uh currently uh has a project in those areas where they need to utilize our city properties for uh construction um of what they're doing for public uh public like right-of-way in those areas.

1:02:13

They are uh compensating uh the city uh for the um permanent limited easement that they will be acquiring on one of the parsels, which is about eight square feet, and they will also be compensating uh the city of Milwaukee for the use of a temporary limited ease easement on about 62 square feet on uh parcel uh that we currently have.

1:02:41

What's the compensation?

1:02:43

Uh the compensation for both properties is about a little bit over 800 bucks for those small pieces.

1:02:50

How do they determine what compensation is?

1:02:52

They did uh appraisals where they looked at uh other compensations in the area that um and their appraisal company did supply us with that information, and that's how they calculated the the costs for those temporary uh temporary easements and the permanent easement.

1:03:13

Got it.

1:03:14

Any questions?

1:03:16

Uh motion by Alderman Brouwer is adoption.

1:03:21

Hearing and seeing any objections?

1:03:24

Hearing seeing none so ordered.

1:03:26

Thank you.

1:03:26

Thank you.

1:03:27

Mr.

1:03:27

Chair?

1:03:28

Yes.

1:03:28

Could you please um I would ask to be marked in the affirmative of the um files that I missed?

1:03:34

Sounds good.

1:03:37

Thank you.

1:03:38

You're welcome.

1:03:39

Item number 11, file number 252020.

1:03:45

Resolution directing the commissioner of public works to execute a document titled First Revision State Municipal Agreement for a state-let highway project with the Wisconsin Department of Transportation for the programming design real estate acquisition and construction of Prospect Avenue.

1:04:03

STH332 from East Wales Street to East Bradford Avenue.

1:04:09

Good morning again, David Tappy, Major Projects Manager.

1:04:13

So this and the next item are uh just revisions to an already uh prepared uh state municipal agreement uh for uh those two projects.

1:04:24

So yeah, it's basically the original SMA uh set up the design.

1:04:29

This revision puts the construction dollars into it.

1:04:32

Um so man, is this design been agreed to?

1:04:38

There is no design.

1:04:39

That's what we're we the original the first step was a small design contract to start working with them to kind of uh identify the scope, right?

1:04:48

So verify that we're gonna do a pavement replacement.

1:04:51

I think at this project we had some discussions about converting uh from one-way to two-way, uh, ironed out those details.

1:05:00

I think at this project we had some discussions about converting uh from one-way to two-way, uh ironed out those details and now agreed to uh it's been more or less, I believe, identified to leave as is, and so moving the one-way pair the one-way pairs, and so now we're gonna get into the design of those two roadways.

1:05:12

And this is set for when put 2030 sometime, right?

1:05:15

The what the department calls uh the department of transportation calls an early PSE would be in 2030.

1:05:22

Uh so there's the potential that by 2031 there'd be construction.

1:05:26

The actual PSE uh is uh 30 May of 2031, which would then lead to 2032 start of construction.

1:05:34

A portion of prospect and farwell are already part of the locally preferred alternative for the streetcar?

1:05:41

Correct.

1:05:42

Uh is uh wouldn't would this not be the opportunity to build that infrastructure at the same time if we're literally ripping up these streets to the subgrade?

1:05:51

It would be, yes.

1:05:52

So it would be a part of the coordination that will need to be uh taken into consideration as we move forward.

1:05:58

And you know, there's been plans to extend that streetcar all the way to at least uh North Avenue and perhaps uh UWM area.

1:06:06

Would this not be the time to do that work?

1:06:08

It it's most certainly would be.

1:06:10

So we're hopeful that those the players involved with that will be you know at a point where we can coordinate and work together to get those um at minimum at least what the plan is so that designs can take it at least into consideration, uh ideally built at the same time, but at least something.

1:06:31

Because Washington DC did that on H Street, where they built track long before they had approval to even build a streetcar.

1:06:38

But they built the track in anticipation, and so that infrastructure was all there when eight years later the streetcar began operating, which has since been shut down, I might add, but nevertheless, they did do the track work in connection with a street reconstruction.

1:06:56

That that is what we would hope could happen on this project, yes.

1:07:00

As long as it's on the radar screen, Alderman Brower, you might want to weigh in.

1:07:03

This is mostly your territory, actually.

1:07:05

Oh, I was planning on it, yeah.

1:07:07

Right.

1:07:07

Yeah, yeah.

1:07:08

Oh, whenever you're ready, madam chair, I'd like to speak as well.

1:07:10

I'm done.

1:07:11

Audiment Brown?

1:07:12

Yeah, thank you so much.

1:07:13

And then, yeah, this is I mean, you know, I like I guess a couple couple of things different things about this.

1:07:19

Um, you know, we've had some side disc conversations about whether, you know one direction or two direction works for you know for this area.

1:07:29

I mean, it's uh nothing is politically impossible, but we are you know, we are are settled at this point on keeping these one directional.

1:07:36

I think to Alderman Ballman's point, um, one direction on each street potentially could make it easier for there to be a streetcar on those streets, um, or at least on prospect for it to you know, for it to service other areas of the city, which I think in the end would be ideal.

1:07:53

Um just for some clarification here, we are prohibited by Act 12, I believe, from using municipal funds for the streetcar, and maybe somebody here can correct me if I'm incorrect on that.

1:08:06

Um, but if we are able to um, you know, like what would be the path, I guess, to Alderman Ballman's point, what would be the path to securing track being put there or other modifications that could encourage public transit as we move forward with this project?

1:08:24

Because it doesn't seem like that would be that's a done deal whatsoever that we couldn't could or could not put in track on that road.

1:08:29

Correct, and those decisions uh not inside my department's sort of uh control.

1:08:36

Yeah.

1:08:37

Because anything is possible politically.

1:08:38

I mean, it's just a matter of the state, and we have you know, we unfortunately have some laws that restrict us, and we have we have an election coming up in November that could change the const composition of the legislature to allow and who sits in the governor's seat to allow for you know a department of transportation and other things that support that kind of stuff and could potentially even fund something like this outside of the city's ability to do something like that.

1:08:59

Um another piece that I want to bring to this um is I've been really appreciating uh DPW's um social media game and everything that we're we're doing by getting you know word out about this stuff.

1:09:10

I really do appreciate it.

1:09:12

Um and so I wanted that to continue when I mean I know we're talking years and years out, but when that continues, um we'll need to you know have social media point and every other piece so that residents are aware and can continue to patronize the businesses on those streets.

1:09:27

I mean, I do get when when businesses contact me about things the city does that are disruptive to their business, that is something that I do get um from time to time from businesses is construction that delays you know that stops people from patronizing businesses there.

1:09:43

And I would hope that any you know constituent, any resident walking who's listening, you know, continues to patronize their favorite businesses even when there's construction in front of them.

1:09:51

I mean, you know, that's please do continue to do that.

1:10:00

Um, but I guess like I just you know, I want to just make that point to like we should do everything we can to make sure that because there's on these two roads particularly, there's quite a few businesses, maybe less on prospect, but on on Farwell specifically, is it is a big business corridor connecting North Avenue and even north of North Avenue, there's businesses all the way down, you know, to to Brady Street and beyond on Farwell.

1:10:14

Um, to where this would be reconstructed, so I'd like that's that's important that when this entire road is ripped up, that we just make sure we're messaging that, that we can make every business aware that they need to prepare for that and that our social media is still and on some of the signage that we have.

1:10:29

I appreciate that that actually has businesses' logos and where people can go to access those businesses.

1:10:35

I'd like to make sure that that kind of stuff um continues as well, you know, throughout the construction, this construction project.

1:10:42

Um is that's is that something that you guys are looking at?

1:10:44

I guess uh if you guys it will be looked at, you know, when once we get through what the design is and we move into final design, then traffic control and work zone uh traffic control and staging becomes uh that part of the puzzle.

1:11:01

Yeah, but we're we're a little too early for that right now.

1:11:04

If we are able to one more question, then chair.

1:11:07

Um, if we're able to install um further traffic calming on either of those streets, I know Farwell has specifically been requesting traffic calming um for my office, um, and we've been sharing the community-led traffic homing um packet with with residents and businesses on Farwell Avenue.

1:11:25

Um, if those things are installed, this project will, when we talk about a replacement, this project will completely replace the street as it is at the time of construction, right?

1:11:37

Can you do from that?

1:11:38

So if we install traffic calming, this you know, our this uh you know, 75% cost that they're picking up, um, we'll cover the cost of reinstalling and shaping the concrete to be as the traffic calming that we installed prior to the road being ripped up.

1:11:53

Is that correct?

1:11:54

Yeah, I mean, so right, the things that have already been put in will actually be able to verify that they have worked and can then be reinstalled, obviously, to the point of potentially a street car might change some of how that might work in the future.

1:12:08

But yes, that and other uh traffic calming measures can be uh put into those design plans.

1:12:14

That's great to hear.

1:12:15

Good.

1:12:16

So now would be um I guess when when are we what is the timeline for the final design of the street?

1:12:23

And would that like look, I mean, let's say we like you know the final design comes in because I don't know how these timelines work, so maybe you can clarify, but the final design comes in in one year, and then oh well, oh shoot, we put it uh we put a curb bump out you know, eight months after the final design was approved.

1:12:40

Oh well, that one's not going in now, and we're gonna have to either rip something up in new construction, which constituents will rightfully see as absolutely ridiculous if we have to do that.

1:12:49

But like, as how does that play into each other with how to do that?

1:12:52

Sure, so working off of uh their early PSNE of February of 2030.

1:12:58

In general, I would imagine that in about two years we would have the preliminary design done and be moving into all the final design, needing time to do any real estate acquisition, utility coordination, etc.

1:13:11

Um at that point, we would know what we want to accomplish out there, and as all the departments hopefully we coordinate better and well, is we would not go out there to put something in there that uh knowing that this is coming, but still it's still two years, potentially three or more years away from construction.

1:13:29

It still might be worth implementing.

1:13:32

Oh, totally.

1:13:33

Yeah, and I I just want to clarify that my message in the constituents is gonna be like now is that if we want to do traffic calming, and I have shared this with businesses and residents on Farwell, um, that if we do want to do traffic calming there, that like this is the time now because it'll be reconstructed when the road is reconstructed as well.

1:13:48

So that's what I wanted to, that's what I wanted to ensure as well.

1:13:52

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:13:54

Um for the destruction as often caused the way in projects are done.

1:14:01

I know that there's a isn't there a staff person at DPW has to deal with the businesses and affective folks uh while the project is going on.

1:14:10

Who's in that position now?

1:14:12

Uh between you and Sarah, pretty much Sarah, Sarah.

1:14:16

What's Sarah's last one?

1:14:18

Um McClanahan.

1:14:20

McClanahan.

1:14:21

McClellan.

1:14:26

Any other questions from um committee?

1:14:29

Um, I I I brought I brought that up, um, Ottoman Brow because um as the projects are being done, um historically that position has been very helpful with keeping those lines of communication open with business owners and affected parties to make sure that the issues that come up get addressed immediately.

1:14:47

Um I do have someone who's devoted to that work.

1:14:51

Um I first started we didn't have that position, and we had some um bridges done, the Humboldt Bridge, and another bridge, and it really affected businesses, and we got complaints.

1:15:00

Um, when I first started, we didn't have that position, and we had some um bridges done, the Humboldt Bridge, and another bridge, and it really affected businesses, and we got complaints, and so they created that position that has been really helpful through the years.

1:15:12

Um, any other questions um from committee?

1:15:17

Hearing none, Audiman Brower would move adoption.

1:15:22

Hearing no objection, so ordered.

1:15:24

Um item number 12, file number two five two zero two five resolution directing the commissioner of public works to execute a document title first revision state municipal agreements for a state-led highway project with the Wisconsin Department of Transportation for the programming design real estate acquisition and construction of North Frywell Avenue, East Bradford Avenue, STH uh 32 from North Prospect Avenue to North Lake Drive.

1:15:57

So this is the the other pair of that.

1:15:59

So any question from committee?

1:16:02

Hearing that Otterman Baumman would move adoption.

1:16:05

Hearing no objections, so order item 13, file number two, five two zero zero seven resolution authorizing a commissioner of public works and commander to execute a state municipal agreement with the Wisconsin Department of Transportation for the installation of traffic signal improvements and to fund preliminary engineering for the project at 62 intersections in various automatic districts with a total estimated cost of 2,150,400 with an estimated grantor share of 1,720,320 and an estimated city share of 430,080.

1:16:50

Good morning.

1:16:51

I'll Pfeiffer at DW.

1:16:53

Um, as you just said, this is a authorization for the commissioner and controller to enter an SMA with the DOT regarding um the last of our traffic controller communication grants.

1:17:07

This one will finally get all of our controllers and to have good communication and have new controllers.

1:17:14

Um I'd be happy to answer your questions you might have.

1:17:26

Any questions from committee?

1:17:32

All right, uh Ottoman Westmoreland would move adoption.

1:17:36

Any objections to that motion?

1:17:40

Hearing none, so ordered.

1:17:43

Um item number 14, file number two, five two zero two three.

1:17:47

Resolution authorizing the commissioner of public works and com trader to execute a revised agreement and transfer funds for the previously established project for the Wisconsin Department of Transportation and the City of Milwaukee for cost participation for traffic control improvements with a total estimated cost increase for the project of zero dollars.

1:18:10

So this resolution will be to uh essentially just correct a small little error um changing the project ID from uh 1060 2771 to 1060 2790 and then authorizing to move the funds from that number to the other number.

1:18:29

Are there any questions from committee?

1:18:33

Hearing Otterman Brouwer would move adoption, hearing no objections, so ordered.

1:18:39

Item number 15, file number two five one eight five four resolution relating to the expenditure of funds to be reimbursed by greater than anticipated revenue for the purchase of low emissions vehicles.

1:18:53

Um this is supposed to be placed on file.

1:18:56

So Audiman Balmer would move to place on file, it's no longer needed.

1:18:59

Are there any objections to that motion?

1:19:01

Hearing nine, so order item number 16, file number two, five one three eight one resolution relating to the provision of support services for city events, um, sponsored by Ottoman Spiker.

1:19:14

This is supposed to be placed on file as no longer needed.

1:19:17

Audible in Westmoreland would move to place on file.

1:19:21

Hearing no objections, so ordered uh without any further business, uh we are adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Milwaukee Public Works Committee Meeting – April 9, 2026

The Public Works Committee, chaired by Alderwoman Milele A. Coggs, met on April 9, 2026, at 9:00 AM in City Hall. The committee considered 16 agenda items, including a street renaming, appointments, infrastructure projects, lead service line replacement updates, and traffic signal improvements. All items were approved.

Discussion Items

  • Item 5 – Renaming South Cesar Chavez Drive to South 16th Street (File 252060): Alderman Perez and Alderwoman Zamarripa sponsored the ordinance to revert the street name. Alderwoman Zamarripa requested and was granted removal as a co-sponsor, citing support for a future community‑led culturally appropriate name. The committee voted to adopt the ordinance.

  • Item 1 – Nonassessable Public Improvements (File 252010): A substitute was accepted to add funding for a design project. The total estimated cost is $17,800,000, with $1,515,000 in city engineering costs. The resolution was adopted.

  • Item 2 – Construction of Nonassessable Improvements (File 252011): A substitute was accepted. Total estimated cost $1,648,000, with $1,228,000 in city construction costs. Adopted.

  • Items 3 & 4 – Appointments to the Citizen Advisory Committee on Naming of Public Buildings, Facilities, and Streets: Linda Elmer (3rd district) and Esperanza Gutierrez (12th district) were both confirmed. Alderwoman Zamarripa noted Gutierrez’s role in the future renaming process.

  • Item 6 – Average Cost of Replacing Private Lead Service Line (File 251984): The cost for 2026 was set at $3,454, down from $3,999 in 2025. Property owners who do not qualify for the city program pay this amount (or actual cost, whichever is lower) and can repay over 15 years on property taxes. Adopted.

  • Item 7 – Semi‑Annual Lead Service Line Replacement Report (File 251985): Superintendent Patrick Pauley and Water Quality Manager Michelle Notarajan presented. Key statistics: approximately 65,000 lead laterals remain in the city; the goal is full replacement by 2037 (as required by the EPA Lead and Copper Rule Improvements). In 2025, 3,329 replacements were completed (short of the 3,500 target due to weather and base program challenges). The 2026 private‑side cost is $3,454. The city received $50.5 million from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law for 2025, including $19.3 million in principal forgiveness. Testing after replacement shows average lead levels below 3 parts per billion; 12 properties had results above 10 ppb, but all were resolved by flushing. The committee discussed the trenchless method (leaving old lead lines in the ground) and the risks of trenching. The report was placed on file.

  • Item 8 – Lincoln Memorial Drive Project Easement (File 252000): Authorized Wisconsin DOT to convert city‑owned property for roadway right‑of‑way. Adopted.

  • Item 9 – Bike Share Expansion (File 252004): A substitute corrected the language to reflect a fund transfer, not a cost increase. The project adds 165 new docking stations and 300 e‑bikes using a CMAQ grant. Total estimated cost increase $2,074,695. Adopted.

  • Item 10 – Appleton Avenue Easements (File 252015): Granted permanent and temporary easements to Wisconsin DOT for sidewalk construction. Compensation for the easements was approximately $800. Adopted.

  • Items 11 & 12 – Prospect Avenue and Farwell Avenue Reconstruction Agreements (Files 252020 and 252025): First revisions to State/Municipal Agreements to include construction funding. The committee discussed potential streetcar integration, traffic calming, and business communication during construction. Both adopted.

  • Item 13 – Traffic Signal Improvements at 62 Intersections (File 252007): Authorized a State/Municipal Agreement for $2,150,400 total, with an 80% federal grant ($1,720,320) and a 20% city share ($430,080). Adopted.

  • Item 14 – Revised Agreement for Traffic Control Improvements (File 252023): Corrected a project ID error; no cost increase. Adopted.

  • Items 15 & 16 – Placed on File: File 251854 (low‑emission vehicle purchase) and File 251381 (support services for city events) were both placed on file as no longer needed.

Key Outcomes

  • All 16 agenda items were approved, with most adopted unanimously.
  • South Cesar Chavez Drive was renamed to South 16th Street; Alderwoman Zamarripa removed as co‑sponsor.
  • The average cost for replacing the private portion of a lead service line was set at $3,454 for 2026.
  • The committee received the semi‑annual lead service line replacement report and placed it on file; the city aims to replace all lead laterals by 2037.
  • Funding was authorized for the bike share expansion (165 docks, 300 e‑bikes) and for traffic signal improvements at 62 intersections.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. I like to call this public works committee meeting to order. I am Chairwoman Order Woman me Lele A. Cox. We are joined to my right by Vice Chair Alderman Lamont Westmoreland. We are joined to his right by Alderman uh Robert Baldman. We are joined to the left by staff assistant Carmen Roman. We are also joined to the left by Alderman Alex Brouwer, and we are joined to his left by uh Alder Woman Larisa Tyler. Um item number, we're gonna take um an item out of order. Um we're gonna do item number five first, file number two five two zero six zero. Uh substitute ordinance renaming South Caesar Shabazz Drive from West Mitchell Street to West Pierce Street, uh South Sixteenth Street. The sponsors of this um ordinance are Alderman Perez and Alderwoman Zamarepa. Um Mr. President, would you like to start off? Yes, I would. I I appreciate it. Um as uh the news has stated uh when the news came out about Cesar Chavez. Um immediately heard from community members and the bid on the street about uh changing the name as soon as possible. Um there was a consensus around uh returning the street name back to Cesar Chavez, which we can do with twelve votes on the on the council, which I'm hoping will happen by um council day and uh feel confident about that. But back to 16th Street. Back to 16th Street, and then the community would go through a process through the street naming committee about a community engagement and a process to change the name if if and when they wanted to to another appropriate uh reflection of the community. And uh with that said, I just wanted to have this be part of the what I consider the healing and acknowledging um that the street name should go, should those names should be taken down from the street, and the bid is in the process of also changing their name and uh moving that forward, so we appreciate um all the work that everyone's done uh to get prepared for that. Thank you. Um repaying the thank you, madam chair. Um I was at some of the meetings that the president mentioned um that the bid hosted, and I appreciate them assembling stakeholders in the community, and um there is some healing that has to happen. Um, like like some folks that have some trepidation about removing the name that was advocated so hard for to really represent the community. This is a supermajority um Latino population that Chavez Drive Um runs through. Um, I will be removing asking to have my name removed today. Um again, I I support the community renaming the street to something culturally appropriate. Um changing it back to 16th Street. I know it gives um a lot of folks uh um some heartburn. Um so I know it's a unique request um because this file does have to happen, but I I don't see that I need to be a co-sponsor. I'd like to have my name removed. Um, Carmen, is there anything we would have to do for that? Administrator I didn't make that motion. Okay. Umderman Bauman would make the motion to remove Audder Woman's and Maripa as a uh co-sponsor of the legislation. Are there any objections to that motion? Hearing non-so ordered. Thank you. Is there any uh questions? Um committee. All right. Um Alderman um Westmoreland would move for passage. Are there any objections to that motion? Hearing non so ordered. All right, uh back to the beginning of the agenda, file number, item number one, file number two five two zero one zero resolution determining it necessary to make various non-accessible public improvements at various locations and appropriating funds for these purposes with the city engineering costs estimated to be uh one million five hundred and fifteen thousand for a total estimated cost of these projects being seventeen million eight hundred thousand. Uh, we do have a proposed substitute. Yes, Audible Man Bauman. Is this file have embedded within it both today and at other times?

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