Good morning, everyone.

Thank you so much for your patience.

I will call to order the license committee regular meeting on Tuesday, May 19th at 908 a.m.

Um, I'm Alder President Joe Casta Zamaripa.

I'm chairperson of the committee, and I'm joined in the following order to my right by our vice chair, Alderwoman Andrea Pratt, as well as Alderman DeAndre Jackson.

Um my far left, of course, Alderman Alex Brouwer.

Um Alderman Peter Bergelis just stepped out for a moment, he'll be right back.

We're also joined, of course, by Yadira Melendez, our staff assistant.

Good morning.

Um it's Fabiola Lopez, our licensed division manager, attorney Travis Gresham from the Office of the City Attorney, and um our MPD Sergeant Um Cornejo, as well as newly minted uh and promoted Lieutenant Wadalupe Velasquez.

Congratulations, uh Lieutenant.

So the first item on the agenda is file number 26003, an ordinance relating to the Department of Neighborhood Services investigation of license applications.

Thank you to DNS for being here, as well as our licensed division manager, Jim Cooney.

Um, I will start start it off and then hand it off to you three.

Um, but I introduced this file in an effort to streamline um things for our entrepreneurs, our small business owners, our business owners who come in and apply for their license.

Um what this will do is essentially um change the process so that an applicant must apply for their occupancy permit first before we take up um their license, you know, for alcohol, food, etc.

So with that, really want to hand it off to our experts in DNS and license division.

Jim Cooney, do you want to start?

Sure, I can start.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh, Jim Cooney, licensed division.

So I want to talk just real briefly about what the current process is, how this ordinance impacts that, what the administrative impact is, and then what the benefit will be to license applicants.

So currently, when the license division receives an application, we refer it out to the Department of Neighborhood Services, and we really get back three pieces of information.

Either they have an occupancy permit, they have an application in flight, or there is a situation where they need some sort of BOSA approval, and as this committee knows, uh that can hold up the process while BOSA does its own separate deliberation.

There are circumstances where an applicant hasn't filed for occupancy, and so it we maybe don't have the best information to make that decision or make that referral to BOSA.

Uh but in the interest of keeping the license application moving, uh DNS will use the information that's on the application.

I'm sure that they can talk more to that specific part.

Um what this ordinance will do is it will require a licensed applicant to go to DNS and apply for their occupancy permit before DNS will provide the license division the information to move the application on to the committee.

Uh I do want to be clear, this is not requiring them to obtain the occupancy permit.

This is just make applications so capital improvements that are required for inspections, all that sort of stuff, not required to advance the license application.

Just the application so that they have the information uh to provide this committee the information it needs to make its decision.

Uh administratively, this is really minor impact for us.

So license specialists already review a checklist of action items with applicants.

Uh one of those items is obtaining an occupancy permit from DNS.

What we're gonna do is just reiterate reiterate that they need to do that right away after they've applied for their license and that the license application won't move until they've done that.

Um and then if the applicant doesn't file within two weeks, we'll send a reminder to them.

We have a process in which we remind people of outstanding stuff a couple weeks after they filed that they need to do before they can get to committee.

Uh, and I think that this is gonna benefit applicants uh because it's gonna bring clarity to this process earlier in this process, particularly when you have two separate deliberative bodies, BOSA and the licenses committee that may be involved in a particular operation.

Um in my experience, I've seen applicants who found out very late in the process that they need some sort of approval through BOSA, or found out very late in the process that they just need to apply for occupancy and then go through the subsequent inspections, and that has delayed closing, and I think has created probably some stress for DNS in terms of trying to get them across the finish line as quickly as possible.

Thank you.

Umani, would you two introduce yourselves and then go into your testimony?

Sure.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Committee Members Jamani Cheatham, Department of Neighborhood Services.

Hi, Michael's many deputy commissioner for neighborhood Services.

Thank you.

And thank you.

Thank you for this uh opportunity.

Thank you for this file.

Uh this does bring some clarity as Jim spoke about.

Some of the most successful uh application processes.

Is when the applicant runs both processes simultaneously.

Uh we have found uh where if the occupancy application process is done later in the process, it does cause some issues, and we also have found uh some folks who go through the entire occupancy uh and build out to find out that now they might get denied that licensing for some glitch uh in the system.

So this will help uh it will be uh small change of our review process.

What we will have the ability to do now is say if that application has been started, and then what we will do a little bit differently is we won't release the hold for that occupancy to have been started until it has been reviewed by our development center, which will help uh to understand if it needs to go to BOSA or not.

So once it's been reviewed, if it doesn't need BOSA, if it does need Bozo, we add that additional layer of that boza hold.

But if it doesn't need bozo, we can now release that portion of it, but still hang on to it until the occupancy is complete.

Okay.

Um okay, so if we want our our business uh owners to remember one thing, it's that they should start submit the occupancy uh application first before they come over to our licenses, is that right?

Submit license and then submit occupancy right after that.

Okay.

All right.

Further questions from committee members at this time?

I'm sure.

Yes, please, Alderman Brower.

Yeah, Madam Chur uh, uh Chiperson, thank you so much for introducing this.

I think the clearer we can be with applicants, the better.

I think this is uh it sounds like this will work with our workflow with everybody.

Um I think it's worth for the committee to, you know, consider what it's like to be, you know, an applicant um who, you know, you know, I think some people have skills in areas like you know, they're cooking or other services, and that's when they're you know decide to open a business in that area, and one thing they may not have skill set in, uh that we have a lot of skill set in here at City Hall is in paperwork.

Um, and so they, you know, they come to us and then they're it could be confused and you know not know where to go.

So I I I appreciate that this, you know, couldn't make it clearer for you know, go to licenses, go to DNS.

Um I'm I'm really glad to hear that this wouldn't like prohibit them from actually like applying with our their license as well because that's what we don't want, and that's I know what causes the public to get frustrated when they go to one door of City Hall and then get told they have to go to another room.

Like, oh no, no, this isn't the right place, go over here and they go over there, and then they maybe get sent to a third place.

And I I I just want to, you know, note that I think for people that want to be entrepreneurial, it um can sometimes be frustrating.

So I'm glad that this the glad this brings clarity.

I really appreciate all the work that our license division staff and DNS does.

I mean, we've worked with everybody here's worked in my office extensively to get a lot of businesses off the ground.

So I really appreciate that.

Um I think it's also you know worth noting that I think some of our building owners and commercial property owners could do a better job of um stepping up and making sure that when they offer a lease to somebody that they inform them, hey, you know, you are gonna need to get approvals from City Hall.

I think that's one of the things that happens too is people sign a commercial lease for a storefront, the landlord, you know, and they just might be a new they might be a good cook and think I'm gonna open a restaurant, and then that's when that would make sense, right?

Like some common sense thinking.

Um, but then the you know the property owner, you know, doesn't you know just they just sign a lease and then all of a sudden they may find out maybe by a visit from our health department or some other entity that hey they actually have to be licensed and all this stuff, you can't just proceed once you've signed a lease.

And so I think it's also the um we should also be calling on our landlords, um, especially for the commercial properties to do a better job of informing tenants and the and they know that you need to be going through City Hall for this stuff.

So I just think that that's noted.

I see a lot of frustration, you know, because when when a business owner gets frustrated about the process, they come to our offices, right?

And then they ask us for help, and um, and we're you know, in our office we're always willing to, you know, give help, but what we can't do is like, you know, change ordinance or move things around or let a business open when they're in violation of the building code or something, or we can't do it do any of that stuff, even even if somebody, you know, by their perspective may think that a building code requirement is uh obtuse.

So I appreciate I appreciate this ordinance, and I just wanted to note all that stuff too, and how you know sometimes our process seems Byzantine.

Um, thank you though.

Thank you, Mel Chair.

Thank you.

No, I appreciate that, Alderman Brower.

This is an effort to hopefully streamline things for our for our business owners, our entrepreneurs.

Um, you know, one of the there was an instance very recently that I know was very frustrating for an applicant who uh was trying to get scheduled here in our committee, and then we discovered in fact they have to go to Boza, and really I feel like that was the impetus of this ordinance for me, and I appreciate DNS and license division working together um to help us come up with a solution.

Mountain chair?

Yes, of course.

And just to add to what uh the Alderman uh wrong out under the direction of the commissioner of neighborhood services and the deputy could speak more to it.

Uh we will have a business liaison working with development center here soon, and so it's that that position is really designed to help uh some of our more novice people who come in to walk through these processes.

Wonderful, thank you.

Yeah, uh we're in recruitment for that proposition currently, uh, and the goal is to kind of help people navigate all this uh the red tape that we we have so uh between licensing and the different departments throughout the city to help kind of walk them through that process and help them navigate all of our different uh departments.

I think that's great news.

A business liaison for DNS and um thank you for unveiling it here in our committee.

Um anything further?

With that, um I think we'll thank you.

Alderman Bergellis has moved approval uh or has moved passage of the ordinance.

Any further discussion on that?

Any objection?

Hearing on so ordered.

Thank you all.

Thank you, thank you.

All right.

Um we will move on now to uh file number 260107 motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses.

Um and on our first 915 a.m.

agenda.

Um we have Carly Barrent, Class D operator's license application.

Carly Barrent.

Is Carly Barrett here with us in person or virtually?

All right.

And is this her first time non-appearance?

Second.

All right, move denial.

Alright, um, Aldermember Gillis moves denial.

Any objection?

Alright, she can she can reapply, correct?

Um, all right, hearing no objections so ordered.

We'll move on to our next 915 a.m.

agenda item.

D'Angelo Montreal Edwards, class D operator's license application.

D'Angelo Montreal Edwards.

All right, all right, and first time on appearance.

Second.

Okay, not Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves denial based on second time non-appearance.

They can reapply.

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

And our last 915 a.m.

agenda item.

Christopher DeShawn McBeath, class D operator's license renewal application.

Christopher DeShawn McBeath, class D operator's license renewal application.

All right.

This is second time non-appearance, correct?

Correct.

Okay.

Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves for denial based on second time non-appearance.

They certainly can reapply.

Hearing no objection to that motion so ordered.

We will move on to our 920 a.m.

agenda item.

Julio C.

Maldonado, agent for revival Bay View LLC, Brown and Gibbs Sports Bar, Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Foodilla Licenses Renewal Application for Browning Brown and Gibbs Sports Bar at 182 East Lincoln Avenue.

Is Julio C.

Moldonado present?

All right.

Julio Maldonado.

And I see Alderwoman Dmitrievich is here with us virtually.

Good morning, Alderwoman.

And good morning, wonderful colleagues.

Thank you.

And have you talked to the applicant by chance, Alderwoman?

Of course.

This is a challenging situation.

And Madam Sherwin, I would prefer licensing.

Um explain there's a number of large amounts of fines due.

Um, and there's a certain protocol along with the city attorney that I think needs to be taken here.

Um, it's just a very complex situation with outstanding fines due, and we're kind of questioning occupancy.

So if licensing and city attorney could opine, I'd appreciate it.

Well, actually, I think we'll you have another uh item right after this alder woman and um Mr.

Moldonado is not here apparently, so we're gonna why don't we uh Alderman Jackson moves to hold this item to the call the chair and perhaps he'll come in shortly um and we'll move on to your next item, Alder Woman.

Um also on the 920 a.m.

agenda, Daksit Kumar C.

Patel.

Good morning.

Agent for Shri Varai L L C Class A malt and Class A Liquor and Food Dealer Licenses Renewal application for Frank's food and liquor at 2500 South Ninth Street.

Good morning, good morning.

All right, if Alderwoman and Mr.

Patel and everyone else who needs to get sworn in, want to raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in.

Is it due to the vote with the end of the board?

Yes, I think.

Yes, thank you, everyone.

All right.

Uh Mr.

Patel, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

All right.

And then will you please state your name and address for the record?

My name is Dixie Kumar Portel.

My address is 9681 South Burger Mount Drive, Franklin, Wisconsin, 53132.

Thank you.

Alright, and Ms.

Lopez, are there any holes?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Yes.

On 92825, Walkie Police were conducting alcohol compliance checks utilizing an underage police aid at approximately 1145 a.m.

A minor entered the business and purchased an alcoholic beverage from the color co apologize.

The agent was cited for sale slash traffic alcohol for uh to underage person uh 3426, they were convicted and fine two hundred and twenty-two dollars.

All right, thank you.

Um Mr.

Patel, would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes.

Yeah, the C just helped me in a couple of days, and I have a system already to check the ID scan, but I don't know how she passed it.

And that day I have a one family member, family listen, uh function to I'm not gonna day.

And she just had me for a couple of days and see if you understand.

Okay.

All right.

I have a idea, she's come to scan ID, but uh I don't know how she passed.

But she used but she didn't use the scanner.

No.

Okay.

Okay.

And you said she's your family.

No, she's not my family.

She just had me for the because I have a family function.

Okay.

All right.

Further questions from committee members for the applicant.

All right.

Questions from Alderwoman Dmitrievich for the applicant.

Yes, madam chair, we've been in contact.

Um, Mr.

Patel, have you retrained all of your employees to make sure that this never happens again?

Yes, ma'am.

That's all I have.

Okay.

And that individual continues to work for you, Mr.

Patel.

No, she's uh, I fired her.

She doesn't have to meet she's not working.

Okay.

She just has me for a couple of day for I have function, guess what?

Okay.

Very good.

All right.

Um, are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?

Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the 14th Aldermanic District.

Alderman Dmitrievich.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um unfortunately this is r remained a consistent item um in my district and throughout the city.

Um we've had underage sales for tobacco, for alcohol.

Again, these are sales to children.

I am working with Alderman Bergellis, and I I have to reach out to him again to increase the fines.

Um, this is unacceptable.

Um I know he's been leading the way and I I want to work on this.

Um we do need a warning letter here, um, and I just wanted to double check the records that this is the first type of this um offense, madam chair.

Yes, is that um license division?

Can you pull that information up?

Um, in the record.

First time for alcohol.

Um yes, I think what Alderman Bergellis was saying is that we can see in the past police report there were um some citations for sale of cigarettes to a other store, yeah.

Uh, but it doesn't appear.

I'm not seeing any this is the first time there was a level sale of alcohol to a minor.

But um I'm not sure if we want license division to weigh in just to confirm that the other report and at this location they haven't gotten any discipline.

Um, and then the cell of cigarettes minor is at a different location.

Oh okay.

But not maybe my name.

Another location where you're the agent, Mr.

Patel?

Okay.

Alright.

So did you Alderman?

I I do request a warning letter.

Um, and you know, I'm going to be moving probably towards suspension in some of these um places of business.

Today we'll I'm suggesting a warning letter.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you, Alderman Dmitrievich.

With that, I think we'll head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Did you want to speak?

Oh no, um well, actually I'll I'll speak to the motion.

It sounds like we have motion already.

Okay, go ahead, Alderman Jackson.

Alderman Jackson would like to move for approval with a warning letter.

Uh there's some discussion, Alderman Brouwer.

Yeah, yeah, thank you so much.

I just want to, you know, just share with the applicant that like I can I can see why he's a small business person, you would just find somebody random to you know get behind the counter and cover for you for your few days, but like, you know, when you want to operate professionally as a business person, you whether that person's a friend or doing it, or I mean really you really shouldn't have people working for you for free.

That violates some federal statutes regarding wages, but um, but uh um if you are gonna have people covering for you, you should train them as you would train an employee and have the same.

It sounds like you you didn't though, and you I mean, so so I I um I appreciate your commitment I did hear a commitment from you earlier that you're you know changing practices, so that's good, but you just need to, you know, every person who works behind the counter represents your business and should be trained in other practices of your business and how to operate and how to do the the processes that you have.

Okay, I think.

Alright.

Any further discussion?

All right, the motion on the table is uh approval with a warning letter.

Any objection to that motion?

Hearing none so ordered.

Thank you.

Good luck, Mr.

Patel.

Yeah, thank you.

Alright.

Um I'm still not seeing Mr.

Maldonado here in the room.

Julio Maldonado.

Nor virtually.

Um, and oh, it looks like we lost Alderman Dmitrievich as well.

So, all right.

So, yes, and we held it our we already moved to hold, so.

Oh, there you are.

Alderman Dmitrievich.

So, we're gonna continue with the hold for Julio Maldonado, because we still do not see him in the room, nor virtually.

Uh I think she said, Alright.

Did you hear that Alderman Dmitrievich?

So we're gonna move on.

We did hold it already, so we don't have to we don't need another motion.

Um moving on to our 925 a.m.

agenda item.

Satbao Singh, agent for Anch Clark Liquor Inc.

Class A malt and class A liquor license renewal application for Clark's beer and liquor at 4728 West Burley Street.

Madam Chair, this was um a mistake typo or something, so uh, hold it or there's there's no file.

You can hold it and then it gets approved on the consent agenda.

Okay, all right.

Move to hold it, right?

Okay.

Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objection so ordered.

All right.

Alderman Dmitrievich, did you hear us earlier?

Okay, I think she's having technical issues.

Okay, we are gonna move on now to our 9 30 a.m.

agenda item.

Bilal Muhammad, agent for 50 petrolmart LLC, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures licenses renewal application for 50 Petrol Mart at LLC.

I'm sorry, LLC at 2008 West Center Street.

Is Bilal Muhammad present?

Oh, good morning.

And I don't know.

Okay, and we're reaching out to Alderman Stamper.

He's serious, he's probably just not.

We think he's we think he's just running up now.

Just a moment, Mr.

Mohammed.

Smoke along.

Oh, I think I hear him.

And this is the only item.

No, no, no, we have several in the 15th.

Okay.

Good morning.

Everyone got on the third floor.

I feel raise your right hand as soon as you're ready, Alderman Samper.

And Mr.

Mohammed.

If you'll raise your right hand, you saw me.

Is it true to what we should have been doing?

I do.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mr.

Mohammed.

Did you hear that, Mr.

Mohammed?

Yeah, I know.

Okay, thank you.

Very good.

You could.

You're sworn in.

Thank you.

Alright.

Um Mr.

Mohammed, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record?

Uh my name is Pilal Mohammed.

This is a uh 2008 West Central Street, Milwaukee, Miscans, the 45 to 206.

Thank you.

Um all right.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holes?

No holes.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Uh 32425 at 12 or 5 a.m.

Walking police were dispatched to a trouble subject.

The call was no longer a scene and the business was closed.

On 11 15 25 at 12 p.m.

That's uh the agent was uh 7405 West Villard Avenue.

The agent was cited for sale of cigarettes to a minor uh slash underage.

Case is set for pretrial, Milky County's uh municipal court on 7226 at 8 30 a.m.

And 1 9 26 at 11 10pm, officers were dispatched to a subject with weapon complaint.

Security camera footage showed a fight inside the business between approximately 8 to 10 subjects as the subjects fled the from the business.

A female discharged six rounds from a gun on 1 24 26 at 12 24 a.m.

Walking police were dispatched to a troubled subject.

The officer was dispatched to a large group of individuals causing a disturbance.

However, on arrival, there was no one on scene, and the business was closed on 1 24 26 at 105 a.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to a troubled subject.

On arrival, the business was closed, and the officer was unable to reach the complainants at 1 24 26 at 3 51 a.m.

Walkie police were dispatched to a property damage.

Thank you.

Mr.

Mohammed, would you like to speak to the police report?

Um no.

Okay.

Um I see that you were caught selling cigarettes to a minor.

Uh actually it was not me, my worker, and uh we gave him proper tilas and uh uh I'm sure I can understand that I'm sorry.

Can you speak a little bit more loudly, Mr.

Mohammed?

Uh it was not me.

I was uh it was my worker and uh but I gave him proper kilos and show him the videos, and he's uh taking the class from uh FDA to teach uh uh how to send the cigarette sign, how to make sure the IDs and everything.

Um that's why we have uh uh I teach him proper glass thing, so he never do this again.

Okay, so it was it was your brother who did that?

Uh no, he's what he was my worker.

Oh, your employee, I'm sorry, your worker.

I'm sorry, Miss Munderson.

Okay, so and does your work does that employee still work for you?

Uh yes, ma'am.

Okay, you have him taking a class.

Yeah, he did the glass.

Uh he's still uh taking the glass from the FDA website, so he makes sure he don't uh do it again.

Okay, um the committee takes it very seriously when we see these and we're seeing it just continually from various applicants that come before us, sales to minors.

Yes, uh yes ma'am.

Uh I I know that, but it's it was uh his big mistake uh and uh he was uh uh apologizing, but uh uh he never he never did it again after this thing now he's asking for like every young guy to see the ID.

Okay, thank you.

Further questions from committee members at this time?

No, sir.

Alderman Bergellis.

Thank you.

Uh just a question for I guess this would be for the lieutenant or sergeant.

Um the case is uh was scheduled for May 7th.

Do we have the disposition of the case or was it extended?

Yeah, it's a pretrial.

Uh July 22nd.

So so the case so item number six has not been dispensed with?

Correct.

So uh Madam Cheryl move to hold it open.

Oh, I discussed it already though.

Is that uh, we don't have a verdict on it.

Yeah, I mean it it was discussed, but I mean uh I guess it wasn't fully deliberated and again it's gonna come up um likely again, I would assume, um, depending on what disposition there is, so um I guess you could hold it.

Um it has been discussed.

Uh you can meet out punishment based on it.

Um I would just caution against kind of using it twice for two kind of rounds of punishment, so um I guess up to you when when you meet that out.

I mean I think the alderman might have wanted to have some discussion on it too.

No, um I I I don't want to discuss something that hasn't been dispositioned in if it if they're contesting it in court.

Uh we did ask the applicant if the employees still work there.

Uh and the applicant responded that um the uh employee um who's part of the uh m the item six matter uh did go through retraining um but the court case still isn't disposed of, so we don't have a verdict or a judgment yet.

So I I I don't I think we should hold it open until that is finalized for um.

So that's uh just a point of clarification, uh so this citation was actually issued for a different business the agent owns the 7405 West Villard.

So we would report it on that report when they call the renewal.

Oh, okay.

Um, the only reason why it would come back up on this when it'd be reported as uh outstanding final warrant if he didn't pay the citation if he has a uh getting a guilty verdict.

Thank you very much for that clarification.

I'll withdraw my concern and my motion to amend.

Or hold.

And I think that's an alderman's stamp.

I guess I was gonna ask it was his affiliation with this address.

But he admitted to it.

He just admitted to you have your verdict.

He's saying he did it.

But it's a it's a different location.

So it's a different location.

Both ways he we can have it now.

Okay.

Um appropriate for me to ask questions, I'm sure.

F on the police report?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay, so uh but what's your affiliation with this address 7405 was Villard?

And do you have cameras regarding these incidents?

'Cause it looks like they all were when you were closed.

'Cause this is a liquor store, correct?

At nine o'clock.

So what's happening after your liquor stores closed?

Uh it's a fitting station.

What is the gas station?

This is a gas station.

Okay that's before us today.

Fifty petrol mark.

Oh okay.

Yeah, what's your affiliation with that?

What's happening?

Yeah.

So it was happening with all this stuff at the uh at the gas station.

Uh I uh I talked to work about about the they said they say uh they never call anything about uh uh this uh happen uh uh on the uh it was uh nothing over there and uh nobody called it or uh because I checked the cameras on that day.

Uh uh uh so maybe somebody called from the different number and uh this was uh uh no fifteen pieces.

I I'm not understanding this guy.

Let me let me speak to the all my speak to m what's to say would you like to help him out?

Who is Mr.

Singh, the building owner?

Yes.

I see him on the line.

Okay, if you can raise your if you both can raise your right hand, Mr.

Harpit Singh, we can get you sworn in.

Do you saw me from the defense authorities of bird you have this data we've gone saying that the destiny we're about to be?

Is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Please unmute so we can hear you.

It is fine now.

Can you start them as a raise your right hand?

Because only found the defense of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the tests are about to be easy to vote with NFL with the truth.

Can you answer?

Yes, I can hear you now.

Okay, we raise your right hand.

We need to get you sworn in.

Okay, I did.

Read it again, please.

Is it true that vote you would end up with the truth?

Yes, I do.

Can you answer too, Jasmine is it Jasminder?

Yeah.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

And Mr.

Singh, can you identify you are the owner of the property here?

Yeah, it's uh her priesting N56 West 24151 Sabrina Code, Sussex, Wisconsin 53089.

Okay, and you're you're the owner of two zero zero eight West Center Street?

1935 West Center Street.

He owns both of them.

Okay.

You own the building 50 petrol mark.

You own that building?

No, yes.

No, no, no.

Uh that's not me.

Okay.

That's me.

Who is that?

Uh, it's me, Bilan Mohammed.

Oh, I thought you wanted I thought Mr.

Singh owned the building.

Singh.

No, I own the building uh uh.

Okay, one moment, Mr.

Mohammed.

Did you sell it to Mr.

Mohammed?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm uh maybe I'm on the next next one.

I know, I know.

But what's the 20th center?

That's me, 1935 West Center Street.

That's me.

Mr.

Singh.

I know, I know, but I'm talking about the gas station across the street from the liquor store.

That's uh, that's not me.

That's not me.

Was it you in the past?

Yeah.

No, no, no, that's a that's someone else, you know.

That's another Mr.

Singh.

Okay, sorry about that.

On the bus, yeah.

All right, sorry about that, Madam Chair.

Okay.

All right.

Um, so Amar, can you help out with these questions regarding the gas station?

Mr.

Lamar.

These dudes don't have to come in, man.

This they they they don't know what's going on.

When is there gas station expire?

May 20th.

Tomorrow.

Let me just are there any neighbors present that intend to testify on this item.

Uh when is this?

I'm sorry.

I'm just asking I got distracted.

Uh, when is the expression?

I'm just asking real quick.

Let's see if there's any neighbors here.

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to to testify today on this item?

Fifty petrol mark.

Okay, there are no neighbors present to testify.

Go on, Alderman.

Uh I'd like to know when the expiration date, because they uh they they're having trouble talking.

I need to come in here and talk about this.

It looks uh the license expires tomorrow.

If you hold it, we would be issuing a provisional since we're the one holding it.

That's fine.

They can request a provisional, correct?

Yeah.

The the issue is based on my approval, correct?

It has to occur.

If if we if we're holding it because you want to meet with them, we would have to issue an administrative provision.

I can't hear them.

I can come in here and explain this police report.

Okay.

So in that case, is the provisional automatic or does it need automatically?

It's automatic.

It's automatic.

Okay.

Alright.

Well, then yes, that's what's going to happen happen.

All right.

So a provisional will be provided to the applicant, and Alderman, um, Alex Brower moves to hold this item to the call, the chair.

Please, Mr.

Mohammed, be in touch with Alderman's stamper.

He'd like to speak with you.

We're gonna hold this item today, but you'll get a uh provisional license in the interim.

Okay, all right.

Well, so we're gonna move on to our 9 35 a.m.

agenda item.

Yes, Jasvinder S.

Anand, agent for Harmete LLC, Class A malt and Class A liquor license for no application for mid-city liquor at 1935 West Center Street.

All right, that's me.

Yes, and you already you were sworn in earlier if you recall.

Um so are you in?

Are you in receipt, Mr.

Anand, of res of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

We see the notice.

Okay, thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

Okay, thank you.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo has a police report.

7 6 25 at 12 10 p.m.

at 1935 West Center Street, the agent was cited for saleslash traffic alcohol to under each person on 21626 and useful court.

The agent was found guilty on 11 8 25 at 7 52 pm.

Officers were dispatched to travel the subject complaint.

An employee reported a subject inside the business that made threats and requested they be removed.

No business violations were observed.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report, Mr.

Anand?

Uh no, ma'am.

Okay.

Questions from committee members on the police report?

Alright, questions from Alderman Stamper on the police report?

Yes.

Hey, what happened with number one?

Is he the employee been uh educated on what to do and what not to do?

Or is he still there or is he gone?

That's for you, Mr.

Anand.

Uh one second, one second.

Okay, I'll unmute up.

Yeah, so uh Mr.

Who is speaking now?

Yeah, I'm muted over here.

Uh, this is uh Harpeet Singh, owner of the business.

He uh talked to uh the committee.

It was like happened.

No, no, you can't.

Who is this?

Is he on the phone, Mr.

Anand?

Do you have him on the phone?

Oh, is this Mr.

Anand?

Can you please speak?

You know, I'm in India.

Is it's not coming good, you know.

You you can talk, you know.

Uh actually, uh the owner of the business is Apeed Singh, and he's traveling right now.

He's not available, so he just wanted to talk to the committee regarding.

Yeah, you can talk at the same time.

Yes, uh, okay, yeah.

Uh, that's not what happened and yeah, that's insert what happened and it is Mr.

Like, uh happened.

I'm sorry, I could I didn't know that you were speaking.

You've already been sworn in.

I see Mr.

Harpreet Singh.

You own the building, but what is your connection to the business?

Yeah, I'm on the building and my family on the on the business too.

Wife and my daughter, you know.

Alright, but unfortunately, there is Jazz Venders, the agent over here.

Yes, but Mr.

Singh owns the building, he said.

Okay.

And you want to speak to the item on the police report where alcohol.

Alcohol was sold to a minor.

Yeah, it was happening, you know.

Like it was a mistake, I can say, you know.

That's all I can say.

Yeah, but what is it?

Because uh what are you doing about it, Mr.

Sang?

Yeah, actually how are you assuring you won't happen?

This mistake won't happen again.

Yeah, actually, it was a kind of appearance mistake.

He the employee agent thing, like the guy looks older, he's fine.

But I told them they need to check every single person ID no matter what how they look, you know.

And uh we we have some other instrument, but we we are fine, and we get an appreciation letter from the city tool that everything is good and there is no more citations.

So they are well trained now, so that was Harper, is he st is the employer still there?

Pardon me, yes, like yeah, he made a mistake, but he but he learned his mistake and he's well trained now to check every single person ID.

Okay, okay.

Thank you, madam sir.

Okay, thank you.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify to this item?

All right, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the 15th Aldermanic District Alderman Stanford.

Yeah, thank you.

I was aware of both of these issues.

Um Mr.

Singh would be here, but he's I have some family issues, so he's out of his overseas, so uh I don't have an issue with the stores, been there for years.

Uh I like a warning letter regarding this uh incident with the minor, and that's my recommendation, but I'm sure.

Alright, thank you.

Um we will head into committee.

I do want to let both the app, the agent, and Mr.

Singh know we take this very seriously, and we are continually seeing businesses unfortunately getting caught selling to a minor.

Um, so today it sounds like perhaps the committee will renew with a warning letter, but we really want to make sure to let you know um next time we won't be so lenient.

This is uh very concerning issue that continues to crop up.

So with Yeah, I totally agree.

I totally agree, I understand the situation, you know.

Thank you, Mr.

Anand.

Uh Alderman Jackson.

Thank you.

Uh person chair.

Yes.

Question.

Why are why are we not hearing from the agent?

And the business owner.

The building owner and the agent are two different people.

Yeah, we are different people.

Well, I'm still here.

So your name is on the licenses, the business operator, you know, licensed agent.

So why are we here from the agent?

Building owner.

You don't actually run a business.

No, I do uh I do run a business this business, and I'm always there and uh always take precautions, but somehow this incident happened, it happened, sir.

Uh I I really apologize for that.

And I learned about the mistake now.

I do take care of for each and everything, and even after that incident, we got a precipicient letter from the city also for checking all uh IDs for the miners and sell not selling cigarettes, or they could do any minor logic.

All right, this is very good.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Anand.

Okay, with that, does the commission committee have a motion?

Uh move for one word letter.

Alderman Jackson moves for approval with a warning letter.

Any objection to that?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Alright, thank you.

Good luck to you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We will move on now to our 9 40 a.m.

agenda item.

Gerdav Singh, agent for North F Gulf, LLC, Class A fermented malt, food dealer and weights and measures licenses renown application for Gulf's Foods at 1622 West North Avenue.

All right, good morning.

Okay.

Good morning.

Um, yes, would you like to introduce yourself, attorney?

Uh attorney Michael Manselman on behalf of uh Mr.

Singh is next to me.

Very good.

Don't worry, everybody.

All right.

If you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you both sworn in.

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

Yes, I do.

Thank you.

All right.

And are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

We are, yes.

Okay, and actually, can we shift the microphones so that everybody has one?

Alderman Stamper, if you want to pull that one towards you.

There, not all four of you have your own microphone.

Very good, thank you.

Um, all right, and then will you each state your name and address for the record?

Good.

Do you have seen?

And your address?

Uh W176 North 5456, high digital Monomani faults.

Thank you.

My name's Abhinov.

Uh, my address is uh 3482 North 89th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5322.

Thank you.

And represented here by attorney Maestelman.

Um, is Lopez?

Are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Scorneho, is there a police report?

Uh the following items are related to 1622 West North Avenue, Gulf's Foods.

Uh 12, 2924 at 12 52 AM.

Officers are dispatched to a threat complaint.

An employee revealed no threats were made, but a subject stole merchandise, but no one was assaulted.

No business violations were observed.

On 8 325 at 1 20 p.m.

Officer dispatched to a penhandler complaint.

The subject was not located, no additional reporting was taken.

On 11 625 at 2 44 p.m., also dispatched to a trouble subject complaint.

An employee reported a panhandler in the parking lot at the uh that requested be uh requested be trespassed.

And officer advised the subject who complied on 11 11 25 at 4 19 PM, officers were dispatched to a trouble of subject complaints.

An employee reporting a panhandler in the parking lot, subject left to officer's arrival and no additional police services were needed.

On 11 15 25 at 10 28 a.m., officers were dispatched to a battery complaint.

The caller stated they were beat up by the manager.

The caller was not located, nor could officers locate any witness to an incident.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes, Madam Chair.

Um you can see that none of those uh incidences involved my client um selling to underage people, beating up anybody, doing anything illegal.

You know, we're the only grocery store in that really wide radius there.

Um and unfortunately, as the s as everybody knows, there's a uh a huge problem with uh uh uh food uh deserts in this area, and Mr.

Singh is is still there trying to do what he can for the community.

There's gonna be problems, unfortunately.

Again, but none of these incidences are uh a reflective of what he's done.

Um it's just it's it's it's just unfortunate.

And if I could also point out that uh Mr.

Singh's uh license has been renewed with no issues for the past five years.

So thank you.

You're welcome.

Questions on the police report from committee members?

Questions from Alderman Stamper on the police report?

Yeah, the only concern I have is number 26.

I know the corner very well.

I understand the multitude of things we have to deal with, so I appreciate that.

I do recommend you have a community person or talk to Benson to keep the lot clean of people just hanging out.

But my main concern is number 26.

Mike, you want to address the battery complaint?

What happened?

Of course.

Well, i we have uh really no idea what happened.

I mean, when the police showed up, there was nobody there.

But who got beat up the employee or somebody else?

It says that they I mean it was the police uh they called the police saying that uh they were beat up by the manager, and we don't have any manager.

I'm the manager.

Did you beat somebody up?

Nope.

So what are they talking about?

I have no clue.

In fact, we were we were joking about it.

Like who who beat up who we have no idea who that is when that incident happened.

When the police showed up, so we could not find anything.

I mean, he doesn't look like a boxer or a wrestler, is he?

Oh no, but never know.

Yeah, watching.

Okay, Mike.

Alright, so you're the manager.

What's your name again?

Abinov.

Abu.

Alright, so this is false.

Uh no, no, no, no concerns.

Um, I'm sure they've been over for a while.

What what Mike says is true?

Surprised to see him in here.

I thought they were trying to apply for a liquor license.

That's what I'll thought.

But you're not, correct?

Nope.

All right, no issues.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um, are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

North Avenue Gulst.

Yeah.

All right, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Thanks, um, anything further?

We are in the 15th Aldermatic District, but I'll.

What happens on the situation?

You say we didn't witness anything, or just so the the the record is clear that there's really no issues.

Somebody caught a false call in there.

So what happens on this type of situation?

Yeah, so it appears that the officers uh checked the area, they didn't find the caller, and there's no evidence that a battery had occurred.

Okay, and this is that is that enough.

This last line is that enough to indicate that the caller was not located, nor could officers locate any witnesses.

Is that the same thing?

Okay, thank you.

Thank you not, sir.

Uh no, uh, they're alright.

No, no issues.

Uh, I recommend approval, please.

And in closing, I have nothing further to say.

Very good.

We're gonna head into committee now for a motion.

Alderman Peter Bergellis most for approval.

Yes, yes, ma'am.

And hearing no objection to that motion, so ordered.

Thank you.

Okay.

We will move on now.

Thank you, buddy.

Uh Alderman Stamper.

Okay, we will move on now to our.

Oh, I was just gonna there's some treats in the break room.

If you just got this thing, if you would like.

Okay.

Um, we'll move on now to our 945 a.m.

agenda item.

David G.

Walsh, agent for Laca Lacage.

Oh, yes, Dave.

LLC, Class B Tavern, extended hours establishments, public entertainment premises, food dealer and sidewalk dining licenses, renewal application for Lakage Nightclub at 801 South Second Street.

Good morning, Dave.

Good morning.

Um, all right, if and I think uh Alderman Bedez is here with us virtually.

Good morning, Alderman Bedez.

Good morning here, present.

Thank you.

If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you saw you if you're in the defense up there?

Is it just a look through the interview with the truth?

I do.

And Alderman Bedez?

I do.

Thank you.

All right, and Dave, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

I am.

Thank you.

And will you state your name and address for the record?

David Wolves, 545 East Wealth Street number 400, Milwaukee 53202.

Thank you.

All right, Ms.

Lopez.

Are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Um Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

The following items are related to 801 South 2nd Street.

On 6 8 25 at 2 34 a.m.

Monkey police were dispatched to battery.

Investigation investigation revealed two suspects were being escorted out due to refusing to leave the clothing time.

Uh began to batter security staff.

Both suspects were taken into custody at on 10 10 25 at 12 40, 12 54 a.m.

Monkey police were dispatched to a battery.

They redeemed baseless.

11 5 25 at 11 05 a.m., market police conducted a follow-up regarding a battery that occurred on 10 26 25 at approximately 2 30 p.m.

in front of the business.

A victim reported they were involved in a physical altercation with an unknown suspect causing a fractured hand.

The business was cooperative and advised officers the agent would be able to provide video surveillance.

On 11 23 25 at 2 14 a.m.

Milky police were dispatched to a welfare check.

The business called regarding an intoxicated subject who was unable to keep their balance.

MFD arrived on scene, administered an arcan, at which time the sub subject became alert.

On 11 29 25 at 9-02 a.m.

Walking police were dispatched to a burglary.

Investigation revealed the business was a victim of a burglary.

The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incidents.

However, during the night, the bartender put vodka on the table.

The caller further stated the agent confronted them about not paying the bill, and a shovey match ensued.

The agent stated he leaned over to grab the caller's shoulder and lost their balance, unintentionally pushing a subject.

On 3 27, 26 at 2 a.m., market police were dispatched to a call for police.

The business called regarding two subjects heard arguing inside the bathroom.

The subjects were told to leave the business and were not on scene on officers' arrival.

Alright.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Um, you know, several other things were uh uh found baseless.

Some were when we were not even open.

Um we have times trouble with getting people out of the business when it caused an issue.

Um we do have a trained security staff who does escort people out when when uh when they're misbehaving, I should say.

And sometimes people get um uh lack of phrase butter heard about that, and they they feel like we're mistreating them and they c they cause more disturbance.

Okay, thank you.

Questions from committee members for the applicant at this time?

Questions from Alderman Bettes for the applicant on the police report?

Not at the moment.

All right.

Um, are there any neighbors present that wish to testify to this item today?

Lakage.

Okay.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

We are in the 12th Aldermanic District.

President Bedez.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

I believe that uh the reason the uh file was heard today was because the amount of calls.

Um I've been in contact with um Mr.

Waltz and the establishment and they're very active on the street with other businesses and the police, and um wanted just to get on the record uh some of the initiatives that uh he is taking to try to mitigate uh the amount of issues uh at his location.

Sure, yes, Mr.

Wells.

We would you like to tell us a little bit more about all the work good work you're doing over there?

So yeah, we we we meet uh the the bar uh the group of the bars in the neighborhood we meet probably on a quarterly basis uh or semi-angle basis with uh second district.

Uh we go over uh things ahead of let's say pride parade, we discussed that before them and what's going on.

Um we discussed for example for the the parade or block party what our security needs are gonna be.

We're actually gonna have police uh duty police uh for that for that event.

Um, I am concerned, you know, we discussed this at our meetings about you know the whole X amount of calls we'll put you in front of the license committee.

Um but we've also been told by them, you know, don't be afraid.

If you got issues, you get people who are being uh aggressive and you don't want them in your business, they're not leaving.

Please call us, we will take care of it.

Um, we are a large club.

We have we're the largest place in in the in the south side of Milwaukee, um so we have a lot of people, and so some of these things are are kind of bound to happen when people come in and again you're you're you're being uh you're being rude, you're you're staying past closing time, you're not listening to security staff.

Um and so we um we again go through our security staff to train them, make sure that they again are not aggressive to people, but they sometimes you have to get them to leave.

Um we have a good rapport I think with with the the police department and with the tavern unit um and the other businesses, and we coordinate uh meetings and intelligence even back and forth when there are issues at one bar, we'll get text that there's issues for this patron at this bar be a work be on the lookout for that person, etc.

Very good.

Thank you.

Um all right.

Um anything further?

I think we already asked our neighbors, correct?

Yes, yes.

Um, all right.

With that, we are in the 12th Aldermanic district.

President Betes?

No objection.

Okay.

We'll head into committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Alderman Peter Bergellis moves for renewal and hearing no objections, so ordered.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Thank you guys.

Have a good evening, afternoon.

I should say good morning.

Thank you.

Alright, we will move on to our 9 50 a.m.

agenda item.

John A.

Urban, agent for La Cabaret Inc.

Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer Licenses Renewal Application for Texas J's at 813 South First Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Would you like to introduce yourself, Council?

I am attorney David Halbrooks.

And with me to your left is uh John Urban and to your right is Ryan Urban.

Thank you.

Good morning, Madam Chair and members.

Thank you, attorney.

Well will you two raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

Do you saw you from an independent of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is a true the whole truth and a few of the truth?

Thank you.

Yes, you and you too, Mr.

Urban.

Your microphone if you want to pull it closer to you.

Thank you.

Alright.

And are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, yes.

Thank you.

All right.

And um will you each state your name and address for the record?

Ryan John Urban, 6331, Riverside Road, Waterford, Wisconsin, five three one eight five.

Thank you, Mr.

Urban.

John Urban, forty nine thirty five Garnison Road, Waterford, Wisconsin, five three one eight five.

Thank you.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Gordonho, is there a police report?

The following items are related to 813 Sulfur Street on 7225 at 715 p.m.

Walking police conducted a license premise check.

Assisting in this assignment were special agents from Wisconsin Department of Revenue, Alcohol, and Tobacco.

This was due to holds on their license regarding outstanding balances owed to wholesalers.

The business agreed to close for the night and a check on 72325 revealed the balances had been paid off and the license was issued.

On 31826 at 125 a.m.

Milky police were dispatched to a theft.

Investigation revealed a patron's vehicle was towed due to parking and employee parking lot.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes, please.

And perhaps um Ms.

Lopez can help me with the first one.

We um the license last year was originally expiring in March of 25, and so they paid everything up.

They got they were told they were renewed and that the license was going to be mailed out, but the licenses were never mailed out, and somehow the paperwork never got done, and then they came in July and said you don't have a license.

And so um even though they were all paid up wholesalers at that one particular point in time when they came through, they weren't.

So they they said, well, you can stay open and not sell anything, but they said no, we'll just close and they paid the next morning.

Then the licenses were mailed out, and somehow um the food and pep licenses had disengaged from that day, so we need to find a way to get those all matched back up.

And then um I made uh I just um printed out a couple copies for you for the other item.

If I could just show you quick.

Okay, of course.

Just one more, yeah.

Thank you.

Um so the um uh the issue is that um in this instance, you know, like if you drive into the city, uh every place you drive in, you see it pass a tiny sign giving uh nighttime parking regulation, so you're on notice.

I printed out the notice that this uh club has.

Uh so you could see that the two entrances are very well posted.

They're not employed customer parking, they're employee parking.

Um, well, this type of venue has only uh few employees, it has a lot of independent contractors who need safe and secure parking, and so they um uh a customer from Stenny's parked there after driving past all these signs uh and got their car towed and they reported their car stolen.

Um then that's pretty much the sum total of that item.

So um the I printed out you can see the parking lot, which uh butts on second street.

Um we do make it available to the neighborhood.

It is available at Pride Fest and the by priorities for Stanis, so that um it is a we do work with the neighborhood when they need extra parking, but uh on the night the club is open.

We need it for employees and contractors.

Thank you.

Questions on the police report from committee members?

All right, and then I know President Bettes, you wanted to speak as well.

Questions on the police report and and then uh any comments you wanted to give?

Well, and in prepping with the license division, um I I wanted to ask the license division uh their their PEP is up for renewal shortly, correct?

Can we get that on the record?

They have to come back.

Sorry for interrupting.

The public entertainment and the food dealer are up now.

Uh the class B tavern expires in July.

They did file a renewal, so we have that, and we did discuss it.

Is there a way to one moment?

I get my my an option that we had was I was going to consider holding today with the provisional and just hearing all of this at once.

Um when the uh when the class B is up for renewal.

Yes, we can do that.

Correct license division.

Yes, we could do that.

Um all right, shall we do that then, President Bettes?

Or remove approval and hold it.

No, no, that's a good that would that would be the the best way to do it in my opinion.

Very good.

If you'd like to get them all matched up, okay.

Sounds good.

Sounds like the applicant also is in agreement with that.

So with that, Alderman Jackson will move to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered, and you'll continue with that.

I think you already have a provisional in place.

Yes.

All right, okay, very good.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

All right, um, very good.

Thank you, President Bedez.

We're gonna move on now to the 13th Aldermanic district.

Is he here?

Oh, there he is in person.

Yes, wonderful.

We are going to move on to our 9.55 a.m.

agenda item.

Casual Mayor B.

Kareem, agent for Leighton Quick Pantry Inc.

Class A fermented malt extended hours establishments.

Food dealer and weights and measures licenses renewal application with change of hours from 8 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

to 6 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

every day for quick pantry at 2022 West Leighton Avenue.

Is Mayor B.

Kareem present?

Okay, we are on Zoom.

Mr.

Kareem is not present, uh not present.

He is out of town, out of the country, but I am here present um with Mr.

Fazal Hunzai, who is the manager.

And you are uh do you want to introduce yourself, attorney?

Yes, good morning everyone.

My name is Attorney Austin Shamaro.

I'm appearing on behalf of Leighton Quick Pantry Incorporated doing business as Quick Pantry.

Very good.

And so the agent is not present, but he's represented by an attorney, so we can certainly proceed.

Right, license division?

Correct.

Um and then sir, will you raise your um with attorney?

Will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

And as well as Alderman Spiker, sorry.

Do you saw me in front of the banks of penalty so burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give is it true to whole truth and if it would the truth?

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yep.

All right.

And um will you state your name and address for the record?

Uh, P20 sending you short UIK scan five T072.

Okay.

Madam Chair, can I get information from the actual council as to receipt of notice?

Yes, I think I was just thinking the same thing.

Attorney, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes, we are.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

All right, very good.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

Following the zone is all related to 22 2022 West Lane Avenue on 426 25 at 10 28 a.m.

An officer was dispatched to a property damage complaint.

An employee called police after customer damage merchandise.

A customer accused an employee of stealing their cell phone.

Security camera footage was not available to be reviewed on 5 5 25 at 8 16 p.m.

I'll sort of dispatch to a death complaint.

A caller stated their vehicle was stolen from the from the location.

Employees were not aware of the incidents and the victim was not located.

Okay, thank you.

Um would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

Yes.

So regarding the the first incident, there was actually one customer ended up taking the phone of another customer.

So we had the first customer customer bought something at the counter, ended up leaving his phone there accidentally.

Um later, another customer came up, purchased items, and took the phone that was left at the counter.

The clerk did not notice the phone being taken because there is a glass barrier that separates the clerk from the customers.

Um afterwards, the store did cooperate with the police and they were able to determine that the phone was stolen by the other customer after reviewing the security camera footage.

At the time, the security camera footage was only able to be accessed by Mr.

Hunzai, but now all employees have access to the security footage.

So they have uh fixed that regarding the second incident, that was related to someone was trying to sell their car on Facebook Marketplace.

They listed the meeting location as the strip mall where Quick Pantry is located.

Um the car was then stolen and the person went inside Quick Pantry and used the phone to call police.

The store was not involved in the sale of the car, but they did cooperate with the police investigation and they offered to let them view the security camera footage.

Uh the store does have a total of 18 cameras, and they have resolved the issue with being able to access the footage, access the footage so now all employees can access it.

Um so we are asking that their license be renewed with the amended change of hours from 6 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

This will better align with their customer traffic habits.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Questions on the police report from committee members?

Questions on the police report from Alderman Spiker?

Uh no, I was able to speak with Mr.

Creeman, got a similar rundown of events and solutions, so I have no issue with that.

Um I did have one question for the license division.

So the change of hours, haven't they in the past had far more expansive hours than they're asking for now?

Um let me check.

And just while she's checking, I'll ask, are there any neighbors present to testify to this item today?

Quick pantry on Leighton.

All right.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify to this item today.

Go ahead.

Oh, um, actually, let me pull up the license for the food since the extended hours would be specifically or just applicable to the food dealer license.

Um let me just pull that up.

So on the food dealer, it just looks like they had a 24-hour license for just the food portion.

Um, and again, the extended hours is just applicable to the food dealer, the hours for the class A.

Um, that one is still restricted to uh 8 a.m.

open and a 9 p.m.

close.

So if they want to open earlier, so 6 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

that would only apply to the food dealer license.

Okay.

Madam Chair.

Yes.

Um, can I ask a question of licensing?

Of course.

Um, with regard to the um, I know we've had this concern in the past where the um actual point of sale system is tied to a weights and measures license.

Is that the case here?

Um, will should they seek a weights and measures license extension to match up with the same hours as their food dealer license?

Or is that?

They do have a weights and measures application on file.

Um, we don't have an hours, okay.

Like a time portion tied to the weights and measures, it's just if they're in operation and they're using the device, it's tied to it.

Um, so if the business is open and selling the food items, um, they would be able to use the scanners.

Thank you for the clarification.

All right.

Alderman Spiker?

Yeah, then I have no objection.

Okay, to the change of hours either.

Okay.

All right.

Well, then with that, I think we can head into committee.

There were no neighbors present.

Does the committee have a motion?

Alderman Spiker has no objections.

Alright, Elder Woman uh Andrea Pratt moves for approval.

Hearing no further discussion or objection, so ordered all right.

Good job, attorney.

Thank you.

Okay, we will move on to our 10 05 a.m.

agenda item.

Luisano Thani.

Agent for Prime Line Motors LLC, second hand motor vehicle dealer's license application for Prime Line Motors at 4828 South 13th Street, number B3.

Is Luisano Tani?

All right, maybe let me try to say this in English.

Luis Jano Tanny.

Is Luis Jano Tanny present?

All right.

Have you heard from the applicant, Alderman?

License division.

Have we heard from the applicant?

No, Madam Chair.

It's the second non-appearance.

Second non-appearance.

Yeah.

That would be it's um in order to deny unless you wanted to interject Elder.

No, okay.

Alderman DeAndre Jackson moves for denial for second time non-appearance and hearing no objection to that motion so ordered.

We're gonna move on to our 10 10 a.m.

agenda item.

Uh uh Asif Rajabali, agent for 27th Street Wings Inc.

extended hours establishments license application requesting to close at 2 a.m.

every day for wing stop at 3266 South 27th Street.

Is Asif Rajabali present?

Oh, we can't hear you, Asif.

We can see you, but it looks like maybe your mic.

Yeah.

Yes.

Good morning.

Good morning.

And are you on here on this item as well, Vera?

Yes, I am on general counsel for 27th Street means.

Oh, okay.

Attorney Vera, is that Pandev?

Correct.

Okay, Council, and then um I see Mr.

Rajabali here.

Okay.

Mr.

Rajavali, will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?

Sure.

Do you saw me or from the defense authorities of burdue of the state of Wisconsin that the testament we're about to give is it to the whole truth and of the withdrew?

Yes.

Thank you.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

Sure.

First name's Awesome.

Last name's Rajabali.

And address is 5005.

Newport drive, suite 501, Rolling Meadows, Illinois, 60008.

Yes, okay.

And then if you'll just speak up just a little bit more loudly and moving forward, just a tad louder would be great.

And then we know you're here with your counsel.

Um council Pandev as well.

Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Cornejo.

I apologize, man.

There's a hold for occupancy.

Oh, there's a hold for occupancy.

Thank you for that.

Um Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

No, no police reports.

No police report.

It is a new application.

Would you like to tell us a little bit about your experience and plan for the business?

Absolutely.

Um we uh obviously uh I believe everybody's familiar with our concept.

Uh chicken wings and fries.

Um this is at uh Ohio Plaza.

It's a strip center with uh ample parking and lighting.

Um we see a lot of late night business in our other restaurants.

Uh Burger King across the street is open 24 hours.

Coco balls open until 2 a.m.

4 a.m.

during the weekends.

We feel like it would be a good opportunity for us to align with uh the customer demand and traffic for the late night hours.

All right, thank you.

Questions from committee members for the applicant at this time?

Questions for the applicant from Alderman Spyker?

Uh I guess one question is uh would you would it be sufficient?

So nobody else in that strip mall is open uh to 2 a.m.

I think there's one place that's open till midnight, must close at 9 or 10.

I would have no problem with delivery till 2 a.m.

but not looking for um that kind of late night activity in that strip mall there.

Um and the ball greens across the street for I don't know how it is now, but in years past had issues uh not looking to create um issues with the police district and robberies over there either, so that's not a question.

But would you be okay with just delivery?

We we would appreciate uh having walk-in business as well because it's a busy corridor, um and a lot of guests like to place orders um online and come in for carryout.

Uh Papa Johns is open until 1 a.m.

on the weekends as well.

Uh with the license division, are they licensed to be open in the lobby till one a.m.

They have the food dealer.

No, I mean they would need to be.

I'm sorry, what was the question?

Um, Papa John's, are they licensed to I thought they were closing at midnight in the lobby?

Papa John's only has a food dealer license, they don't have extended hours.

Okay.

So they might be operating illegally.

Okay.

I'll have to check into that.

Thanks.

Um, so what would be a comfortable walk-in hour for um that you would suggest Alderman spiker.

I'd be fine with midnight to comport with what Papa John's is allowed to do.

Um, but I wouldn't want to see anything but delivery later than that way.

Okay.

So delivery later but walk in hours till you'd be comfortable with midnight.

Um all right.

What do you think, Mr.

Rajavali of that?

Um I would I would appreciate for walking to be at least until one a.m.

and delivery until two.

Um but I leave that up to the audience judgment on what's best.

Well he's he's asking for these things, it has to be your decision though to amend your application.

Um so it's it is up to you are the one who decides if you want to amend your application, I would all I can allow you to do that here at the table.

Madam Chair, I can clarify.

Oh, sorry.

Uh yeah, so the the chair is correct.

Ultimately what you put before the committee is up to you.

What the committee votes on is what you have determined um, you know, is is kind of within your business plan.

Um, you know, over and above whatever objection the local elder might have.

So you can put whatever you'd like in front of the committee, but um in general, um it it is again your decision as to what's in front of the committee.

Um so the the bargaining is not with the committee here, the bargain is between you and the local alder, you and the kind of community or surrounding businesses, etc.

So um whatever's put in front of the committee has to be amenable to you um and by you prior to um any kind of entry in front of um this body.

Hopefully that was clear.

Yes.

Uh okay.

Um I think uh um, you know, we would we would uh like to move forward with one a.m.

Alright, sounds like he I'd be opposed to that.

Okay.

Understanding uh Alderman Spiker would not be in support of that, but of course you can continue on with your application.

Well, he is asking to amend so you are asking to amend it for 1 a.m.

sale walk-in sales until 1 a.m.

Yeah, I mean instead of I I'm I'm hearing the alderman out and I'm not I'm saying that okay, I understand that you know there's a concern.

So moving it from 2 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

as a is a compromise.

Um if the alderman is not in support of that, then you know I would I would then say that would there be an opportunity that if we do agree to midnight that in a year's time we'd be able to revisit and look at extended hours.

If you wanted to have a conversation like this, we should have had it ahead of the meeting.

So we're not having it at the table.

It's not respectful to the comes to the uh committee's time.

So thank you.

Yeah, what it would have been good for you to cons to reach out to the alder to have a meeting ahead of time.

Um, but I I mean we certainly can uh I just don't know what to do with it.

We can amend it if you would like to amend it.

Um but then we're gonna just keep going with the discussion as I do.

Yeah, let's let's let's hold off and and um you can withdraw our um extended hours uh request and and and we will meet with the alderman.

Alderman Spiker, I'm sure.

Oh one second.

Yes, Ms.

Lopez.

If the application is withdrawn, they're disqualified from applying for six months.

So if it's held for a later discussion, they would have an opportunity to have the discussion and then amend and move forward.

I think that was what Mr.

Rajivaldi was really wanting to hold, but uh Alderman Spikers so that they can potentially meet with you.

Yeah, which would be fine, but then they can't do delivery or anything.

I think they can't open period.

Correct, okay.

The if the food dealer gets issued, you can operate with the approved hours, which would be until midnight.

Anything past midnight you would be operating illegally since you don't have an extended hours license.

So they can open immediately with hours till midnight.

Correct.

All right.

If approved.

Yeah, I think they had I think the food was already.

Yeah, they had initially asked for later hours.

I was okay with that back when they initially applied and then they appealed because they wanted the extended hours, so that's why they applied for that portion.

Yeah, their approved hours are 10 a.m.

until midnight every day.

So they're already approved.

This is just a good reviewer.

Okay.

Alright.

So it sounds like we're holding this today and with an in an effort to allow Mr.

Rajavaldi and Alderman Spiker to confer.

Very good, Alderman.

Yep, that's fine.

All right.

Alderman Alex Bauer moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objection so ordered.

Mr.

Rajabaldi and Council, please connect with the Alderman's office.

Um we're gonna go ahead and move on to our attendance.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll move on to our 1015 AM agenda item.

Jeff Rosen, agent for four keys, LLC secondhand motor vehicle dealers license renewal application for Rose and Nissan at 5819 and 58 to 5839 South 27th Street.

Is Jeff Rosen present?

Uh good morning.

Uh, Christopher Moiler, attorney uh appearing on behalf of of Mr.

Rosen and I'll I'll start us out right away.

Uh oh, let me just let me go through my my little protocol.

Thank you, Council.

Sure.

Sorry.

Okay, yes.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

We did receive notice.

Very good.

Thank you, attorney.

And um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Cobanihall, is there a police report?

No police reports.

All right.

What okay?

This is uh, there's objections on file, which is why it is scheduled today.

Um you want to elaborate, Alderman Spiker.

Um, it was scheduled because somebody filed an objection instead of calling my office with the issue, they um filed an objection.

So I don't know even who called it in.

So I would be happy to make contact with them if I could find their information, but that hasn't been provided to me.

But um, I guess for the attorney is there is an objection in the file.

Um it describes uh black Lincoln from alleged to be from Rose and Hyundai, speeding past this resident's house on Kimberly.

Doesn't give an address.

Um it does give a plate.

So uh I would ask that you you look into that.

Rosen uh has always been a responsible business.

They've always been responsive if I've had any issue in the past.

Um but unfortunately I didn't get this called into me, so um I saw it when the hearing was scheduled for me.

Madam Chair.

And let's let um yeah, that's just gonna weigh in our staff assistant first, council, and then I'll give it to you.

Um, I did contact a person who followed the objection.

I sent that information to appear before committee as well.

All right, and uh is there anybody here today to testify on this item today for Rosa Nissan?

Okay, let the record reflect there are uh no neighbors here to testify on Rosa Nissan today.

Go ahead, Council Muller, I know you've been waiting.

Sure.

No, thank you.

Um and just uh a couple of uh items.

Number one, um I am not their regular counsel, my uh my partner is and he is in dental surgery, uh, so forgive me if I'm a little light on detail and uh if we need more, I'm gonna ask that we hold it over.

Um, but uh like like uh the alderman said, we we're not exactly sure what this is, what the objection is.

Uh I mean I see the objection.

We don't know who uh we you know I think we uh my colleague talked to them preliminarily and we're not sure.

So we're hoping to get a little more information, but we're obviously happy to work with the neighborhood and and work with uh the alderman to to you know address any concerns, but we don't think this would rise to the level of denying um denial.

But like I said, if if if more is needed, uh I'm gonna respectfully ask that we hold it over for my colleague who uh knows knows this business and knows the client much better than I do.

I'm kind of stepping in because of the searcher here, so very good.

Thank you, counsel.

All right, um any questions from committee members or Alderman Spiker?

No, it's just uh if you can have your colleague reach out to my office, I can give them this information.

I'll also supply it directly to the agent, uh, Mr.

Rosen, um, so he has it as well, so they can address it, and then um if you do is able to share with me any of the constituents' contact information, I'll be able to reach out to them as well.

But I don't see a reason for holding it over.

This is I don't know that I ever had an objection relating to this, but um it's a standard constituent thing where the business has been responsive.

I'm happy to reach out and advocate for the constituent.

Very good.

Thank you, Alderman Spiker.

So no objection to this, Renault.

Yeah, just real quick uh for Alderman Spiker.

I will have my colleague reach out to you.

Uh I think he's on for the day today, but uh sometime this week.

Sounds good.

Great.

So we'll head at the committee, Alderman Bergellis.

Move renewal.

Alderman Bergellis, um, moves for renewal.

Any discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing none, so ordered good good work, attorney.

Thank you, everyone.

Have a good day.

Thank you.

Alright, and I know Alderman Specker, you're gonna stay a bit longer.

Thank you.

We're gonna um pass the gavel now as we enter the eighth Aldermanic district.

That's great.

Uh next up on our 10 20 a.m.

agenda, we have uh Gabral via room, agent for El Pariso restaurant and bar L C food dealer and food peddler license renewal application for El Pariso at 2131 South Muskigo Avenue is Maji Cabral Viral, President.

Uh licensing.

Have you heard from this uh agent?

Oh no, sure.

Other person, have you heard from this agent?

No, they were here last committee, we held it.

I was expecting them to be here today.

Okay.

What would you like to do?

You want to hold it?

Yes, I um madam chair, I would move to hold the deciding.

Can I just say it in uh the name repeat it once more?

Just in case.

Okay, Maji Cabral Villarrial.

Maji Cabral Viarial.

Alright.

Madam Chair, I'll move this to hold this item to call the chair.

Sorry, thank you, Alderman.

No objections, so order.

There's treats in the break room.

Next up on our 1025 a.m.

agenda, have Elma Flores, agent for J and E grocery store two corp, food dealer license for new application for La Hacienda 2410 West Forest Home Avenue.

Is Elma Flores present?

This is um Elmuth Forest has uh we're waiting for a little bit.

It's Elma's Florida, that's our husband.

Are you an attorney?

He's a sheriff.

The attorney is Camille.

Oh, oh, no, we'll we'll have to hold it maybe if they come, but the agent has to be here.

Elma tiene que.

Yes, all so abogado.

No podemos scene.

No, that's a lot special.

So we're waiting for the attorney then.

All right, so there's no one they come.

If we can hold this item to call the chair, and my other person's a repeat is to hold and see no objections, so order to move to request.

Oh, we're back.

Oh, uh Alder I mean, Madam Chair, I move to reconsider the 1020 a.m.

agenda item.

Okay.

So on our 1020 a.m.

agenda, say their name again.

Yeah, um, Maji Cabarra Varial.

Agent for El Parisio Restaurant Bar LLC Food Dealer and Food Peddler License Renewal application for El Parisio at 2131 South Musquillo Avenue.

Is Maji Cabral Villarreal present?

Yes.

Okay, tenemos hente aquí para la contradicción.

So we have somebody here to help with uh interpreting today, madam chair.

So please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Yes.

Are you a receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes, we did.

Please say your name and address for the record.

Okay.

My address is 909 South 9th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

And you got her name.

And did you also state your B speech?

The address is 909 South 9th Street.

It's the same as you want to state your appearance as well, German.

Uh my name is Joanna Urtis, staff assistant and interpreter at this time for the uh for the um applicant.

Thank you.

Miss Lopez, are there any holes?

Uh no holes.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

No.

Is that everything?

There was objections on file.

Oh, so this is file because we have objections on files.

Um thank you.

So the this applicant has their base, um, their food truck has their base kitchen in my district.

Um but they do park in Alderman Spikers district, um, who did make me uh was good enough to make me aware of some um issues where they're parking, and so I did ask Alderman Spiker to stay on so we could hear his testimony.

I also did ask um DPW.

You had other concerns?

See, um, we also reached out to a few other departments, then we're conversation with departments.

As well as Courtney Langish from the Milwaukee Health Department as well.

And I'm not sure is DNS.

Um we reached out to DNS, but they are not here to testify.

We'll hear from folks from the two health department and uh parking enforcement.

There is something that are from the Department of Salud y del Estationamento.

Okay.

And Vice Chair Pratt just indicated there is um information in the file from DNS.

Uh DNS.

In the file, so Pratt acaba de Ciao Trevor from DNS.

Yes.

So madam Chair, I don't know if you'd like who you'd like to kick out kick it off, Alderman Spiker or our two department representatives.

Uh, we'll go to Otto Spiker since he's in-house, and then we uh will go to Eldritch and then Courtney.

Okay, thank you.

Um yeah, there was uh complaint uh last time um from a resident, anonymous complaint, um there have been issues with uh parking the food truck there um all the time, not moving it within the required number of hours, and there was also a trailer that was um had flat tires and was parked partially on the sidewalk, so we need to translate movido.

And then you said there was a trail of a trailer had been parked um with flat tires partially on the sidewalk.

Oh, ykay, uh stationado partialmente in La Hacera con una llanta conchada.

Do you want to see it, but are you waiting?

No, how do I go on?

Are you finished testifying?

Um, and then uh neighborhood services who isn't here but has a record on the file, um investigated a complaint that they were serving people in tables in the adjoining building or adjacent building.

And I believe in the file, in the file it says they weren't able to substantiate that complaint, however they did find a power cord was being run from the building to the vehicle, um, and that was ordered to be discontinued.

Thank you.

Can we complete the translation of Alderman Spiker?

You said that there was uh an extension cord running from the adjacent building from the truck, okay.

Um, uh, don't establish connectado con extension in the can we get the there was a first part as to not having DNS substantiate whether or not there was sale or service inside that building.

Okay, entonces tambienke no put on confirmar con exactly the department of service, DNS.

Yeah, I think I mean I just think yeah, I don't want things hanging.

No, thank you, thank you.

Uh does the committee have any questions for autonomous spiker?

Yeah, does that put it as a happy can't have any questions for autumn and spiker?

Questions only, yeah.

No, but uh, we'll put it they want to provide comment.

Can we put a parking side?

Can we park?

I don't have a picture, so can we park or uh put cement, I guess for them to park where they are parked right now?

No, they're on the street right now.

Okay, I'm spassium a lot of ketosis poner cemento.

I mean it would be so there's unpaved portion of the sidewalk next where they are parked that they are asking if they can pave it so that they can park there.

We're not gonna make any determination as to where they can and can't that would be like a building permit.

So this is really about instances that have happened in the past.

Okay.

Well, the question that was asked of me, I think they're talking about the terrace area between the curb and the sidewalk.

Okay.

No, I just I know they're eager to comment on what Alderman Spiker said, but do we have to hear from the other two departments first before they can?

You could open it up.

I mean, it's it's the flow of this committee is really by the committee, and because there's this um, I guess there's a slow kind of back and forth.

I would say that you should open it up now just because you want to clarify what's happening now, as opposed to waiting for like a final statement or something, which could be kind of lost.

Right.

Okay.

So if they want to offer um concept or something to what is it, okay.

We are willing to continue to work, and we just need to hear from you what it what is it that we need to do to continue working.

He's speaking to the objection in the file that um people they suspect that they're selling alcoholic beverages.

And he's saying to that regard that they don't sell alcohol.

And regarding to the mitre, um that was listed in the report, it's my niece, and she only works four hours.

Yeah, no, no, no.

And she only works Friday, Saturday, and Sunday that she works.

Yeah, no other squirrels, because solamente el viernes, el viernes saliendo.

Um and so right after she comes out of school on Friday, it's when she comes to work.

Manager, uh, I appreciate that context related to the complaint that we received from a constituent.

But I think it's important now that we hear about further concerns that Alderman Spiker and I have around parking, um, and the also what the health department has to say.

So uh Eldridge and Courtney, can you both raise your right hands to be sworn in?

Do you saw here from an independent penalty suburbie of the state of Wisconsin?

That the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and a thing with the truth?

Um Elder Eldridge, can you unmute yourself and start your testimony?

Uh just state your statement.

Thank you.

My name is Elder Shield.

I'm the parking enforcement manager for DPW.

Okay, you can begin your testimony.

Um, I'll just ramble off the data that I have related to the trailer.

Um we've issued a total of twelve citations, so this trailer dating back to two thousand and twenty-four.

Seven citations have been issued in two thousand and twenty-six, two of those citations being warnings.

Um the trailer was cited and placarded on April 28th, then later told on May 1st due to failure to comply.

Last contact with this trailer and parking enforcement was on May 7th at 2 21 a.m.

where we again placard it and warned the trailer of the illegal parking.

Since January of 2025, we've responded to 19 complaints at this location.

Nine of those complaints specifically referenced this trailer.

In 2026, we've responded to two to ten complaints at this location.

Six of those specifically referenced this trailer.

We've issued a multitude of different violations.

The trailer has been cited for parking on the sidewalk area, has received two citations for being unregistered, has been cited twice during night parking, once for not having a permit, and again for being ineligible.

And his vehicle has also been uh cited four times for being parked in access of twenty-four hours.

Of those four citations, three of those were warrants.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Does the applicant have any questions?

El Departamento de Obras Publicas, especificamente el area de estacionamiento.

Um thank thank you, Eldrich Hell, for your testimony.

I did can you just explain when you say in tw I believe it was you said in January 2025 there were 19 complaints?

And nine were specific.

Since January 2025, we've responded to 19 complaints at this location.

Nine of those uh specifically referenced the trailer.

However, in 2026 alone, we've responded to 10 complaints at this location.

Okay.

But when you say 19 complaints and nine are specific to this trailer, what are the other ten about?

Um they're for random things.

I couldn't say that they're related to this trailer.

So uh parking on the sidewalk, some just parking in um access of the posted two hour time zone limit.

But it could have been other autos in that same vicinity of that address, it's definitely possible.

Okay.

And right, is the food trailer currently placarded?

Not at this time.

Okay.

Yes, sorry about that.

Uh part of the report and labian fichado para que fuera remolcada, pero ahora mismo no está no la recebido.

Okay, no.

Are you done?

Yes, thank you, madam chair.

Um, did you have any questions or did you want to add some context?

Uh we are willing to work so that there's not a problem going further.

Um to be on the um to not be on the sidewalk.

Okay.

Thank you.

I'm sure.

I don't forget this.

Um uh Mr.

Hill, are the citations paid?

I've not checked at this time all the man, but if you give me like 10 minutes, I can answer that question.

Oh, you have a question.

Yeah, okay.

Um, I want to make sure that you're clear the issue isn't just you parking on the sidewalk, which is an issue, but you're also um incorrectly parking on the street parking lot see repeat it again the issue is not just your parking on us on the sidewalk, which is a problem.

But you're also parking illegally on the street illegally thank you madam chair can she ask a question madam chair yes okay sur la westrake sur we're parked on south sixteenth street in ohious parkearnos sobre la West Ohio can we park on West Ohio I think one of the issues also was parking in excess of twenty four hours so nowhere I don't think you can park for the 24 hours is that correct Eldritch for the food truck no one looking at the horas ahorita I'm sure um for food peddler licenses they are required to one return to their base every 24 hours and two there are parking restrictions they have to be moving every believe it's every two hours um but the booklet that we have does list all of that information del department regresar as a base did I get it right okay so we want to follow the rule and we want to continue working I commit if you allow us to continue working that um we're gonna be committed to follow the rules and we're gonna move the way that is supposed to during the night we close from nine to ten and then we'll bring it back to the base kitchen thank you.

Can I just clarify madam chair I think she said so you just want to move you think you're gonna move from 16th to Ohio like you're just gonna keep moving back and forth from those two spots so look at the came de la ohio a la 16 she's gonna move back and forth is that what you're getting that's what they're understanding so you're trying to stay right by that building why why do you want to stay by that building because you're using it are you are you having your customers use that building?

No, look at that client it's because people already know our spot and people know us that we're gonna be in the same spot yes um it's a very quiet area nobody and we're not we're not being a nuisance to the area and the neighbors have not put a complaint.

No, there's there's a complaint.

There's why you're here.

Oh, okay, yeah.

Madam chair that's what I sorry.

Um, in the booklet, and I am gonna have someone bring that up in Spanish.

Um, there is a point that says I'm gonna put it.

Uh I just had it.

Apologies.

I think I just you may not stop for more than two hours in any residential block, and such stops must be separated by a six hour period.

So moving from one street to another in that same area is not allowed.

Um John, I can read it in Spanish because I have that already.

Can you say something?

I understand, where we are right now, there's a parking space in the back.

Can we park the trailer?

The pavement in the front of the establishment.

He said that he had applied for what he's requesting now, or not?

For a second base for a second base kitchen, they do have a food dealer application at that location, it was uh I could pull it up though.

Um, but then for the parking, I have the image on Google Maps.

It looks like there's a garage with like a parking slab in the front.

I'm not sure if that's where they want to park the trailer.

Um there's also like a cemented, it looks cemented, uh fenced in area.

I'm not it doesn't look like there's an entry uh big enough for the trailer, but I'm not sure if that parking and that garage is for the residents of that unit or not, yeah.

I'd rather have a food truck parked on the street and try to squeeze it in an alley or on a slab of a residential.

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

Do you own that building?

I'm renting it.

But in the future, I do want to fix it.

And then I'm in the works of getting a permit of occupancy.

So we're gonna go to Courtney, uh oh first uh Eldritch, I think you had uh the if whether or not the tickets were paid, is that why your hand is uh Okay.

Yes, and thank you very much all the way.

Um, regardless of question.

Yes, they are.

There is outstanding citation debt, six hundred and forty eight dollars.

Thank you.

Okay, so the departamento de You're welcome.

Okay, no problem, but there's not a problem, we can pay them.

So we have to pay them.

Sorry, sorry.

Why haven't you paid them already?

Uh, he was under the impression that when he got the trailer that it was clean and we were under the pressure that there was no citations pending on the trailer when we bought them.

They got the citations.

They I mean the they're like, I encourage the citations from the parking of the trailer and yeah.

I'm sure what date did they buy it?

What was the day uh in qué fecha la compraron?

Um twenty twenty-four, in twenty twenty four they buy it.

So these tickets are from this year and last year.

They come from twenty twenty five too.

I paid some that were from twenty twenty-four.

And maybe twenty twenty five.

So you have some to pay from twenty five and twenty-six is what he's saying.

That's a court.

Yeah, sorry.

I want to ask Eldrich, what do you think of that?

Where would the would you have handed the ticket to the applicant?

Why are they um seeming to say they didn't realize they had citations?

Oh, I think it's frozen, yeah.

All right, well, I would like to, okay.

Maybe he'll come back on.

Yeah, we'll go to Courtney of the Health Department.

Uh, Courtney can state your name in department and start your testimony.

Hello everyone, Courtney Langash with the City of Monkey Health Department.

Um, so we we are on the hearing today not necessarily to uh provide an objection for any specific reason or for our health health department policy.

Um this operator has only been closed for water once, so that is not ultimately why we're here.

We are here uh just to kind of clear up and clarify any thing related to the complaints with the underage person working in the truck uh the sale of alcohol and then um just kind of some of the operational issues that have come up.

So there's no necessarily there's not a there's not an objection necessarily from the health department at this time.

We are here to serve as a resource uh for the the related complaints.

Um and I would say so when I was there.

Hold on a second, we're gonna let her translate like Johnna try to.

Okay, sorry.

Uh, continue Courtney.

Thank you.

So we were in receipt of the complaints for the unlicensed base use there at the 16th Street location, um the underage worker and then the sale of alcohol.

So when I was there April 21st to investigate a an associated unlicensed food truck that was parked in the same area, um I had been speaking with Adolfo in his give me a minute.

Okay, sorry.

Um, uh, uh the alcohol.

And you were there on April 21st, you said Courtney?

Correct.

Okay.

1 pm.

Okay.

And while I was there speaking with Adolfo, I had observed uh person pull up in a truck and received two cups of what looked what appeared to be a Michelada or a mixed beverage that came from the trailer of El Praisal.

You can continue, Courtney.

And then the last just the last comment I would have is that we were not able to verify that there was an uh an underage person working, but there is an ordinance that states that anyone under age twelve cannot work in a food truck for safety concerns related to food.

But I obviously don't know how old this is.

Is that all, Courtney?

Yes, it is.

Okay, thank you.

Do you have any questions from committee?

Any questions from uh local order on our person's diameter?

Yes.

Um thank you for your testimony, Courtney.

Um we did have have him here with us last cycle, and we held it.

They did address the alcohol and they said they're serving Heineken Zero Zero, non-alcoholic.

Did can you give us any more testimony?

Do you did you see could that have been the case or did you see a different brand of beer, or do you feel like you can definitively say that you saw an alcoholic Michelada being served?

Um I'm gonna say that what I observed were two um large clear cups with a red liquid poured in and something else mixed in.

I cannot definitively say exactly what it was, but it was li it was liquids being mixed together.

I would say I There's no evidence that I saw anything that was a Heineken Zero.

I don't care.

I'll remember that.

I did not on that day, because I was actually not.

So we have no evidence of anything, just make mixing a drink, we don't know what it was.

Correct.

Alright, I don't think we need to spend time on this.

Uh any questions from the applicant for health department.

Questions.

My granddaughter has four is 14 years old.

She's only there, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

So that's why she looked she might appear like longer than what she had.

She's about to be 15.

Okay.

Uh, I see or ya know.

We can't continue to give kind of legal advice or kind of guidance here.

Uh direction or consejeria legal that they can, you know, seek legal advice.

Okay.

So we can't we can't keep providing them, you know, the kind of contours of this.

We provide we provide the brochure and how to do it.

As far as underage employment goes that up, that's well outside this community.

Okay.

We just can't we can't until you madam chair.

We've already discussed the age, but I will note he said she was fifteen earlier.

Now she's saying she was fourteen, but we've discussed this.

Courtney said they can't be twelve or under, at least the person's over twelve, but I do want to note I thought I thought I heard 15 earlier.

Now I'm hearing fourteen.

Um Courtney said they can't be twelve or under, and that's not the case.

Eldritch.

Um we have no evidence that any of these citations were mailed, these were all left either on the vehicle or the operator.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we are willing to do follow the directions that you tell us.

Okay.

Thank you.

This is in the eighth automatic district or a person's emerald.

Alright, thank you, madam chair.

Did you want to add anything, Alderman Spiker before I um just that uh I in general happy to have food trucks if they want to apply for a license for the building?

There is no there's a bar there, there's no large commercial kitchens, so they would have to do work if they want to go in that location.

Um but the parking and the objection to licenses is what brought me into this.

I wasn't going looking for food trucks doing anything.

So the eighth automatic district author presentative.

Yes, thank you for uh this very comprehensive testimony.

Gracias por este testimonio extensivo.

I appreciate you giving some context, and um like Alderman Spiker, we're really here, I think because of the numerous copious parking citations you were placarded more than once.

Um you have been warned, you have been cited, you have outstanding citation that today.

Um I let you know the last time you were in front of me to reach out to me, I just double checked with my staff.

You did not reach out to my office.

Um again, I offer for you to reach out to me.

You have the Spanish language food truck booklet now, please read it.

I hear you saying you want to follow the rules.

I'm willing, uh please I am willing to offer renewal, but I think at this point we'll be looking at a 10 day suspension given the extent of again placarding multiple citations, so on and so forth.

Um continue.

I tiening Lemosado novamente el folleto para que los sigan, pero con todo esto y las multas can received ustedes, um veo sujeta a solamente proceder con una con 10 day suspension.

I'm I'm looking at that, yes, yes.

Renovar su licencia con 10 days de suspension.

Okay.

Uh can we renew it after 10 days?

It would be a it has first we have to see what happened to the committee.

Okay, and then after council, if it passes, you're suspended at on that day for 10 days, and then after that you can begin to operate again.

And you have recommendations de este committee, entonces van a hacer diez días a partir de quando el Consejo Commun lo apprueba.

So right now we cannot work it.

We are we're in committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Madam Chair, I'll make the motion in person.

Um although absolutely up for discussion, but um I would move for renewal with a 10 day suspension based upon the preponderance of evidence um and aldermanic testimony um from the 13th as well as the eighth applicant testimony and testimony from our city departments health department and department of public works parking enforcement that demonstrates the oper the operation results in a threat to the health, safety and welfare of the public.

Um failure to comply.

And failure to comply with the approved plan of operation.

Okay, the motion by the motion by the legal parking and traffic violation.

I'm sorry, and um if you would add a legal parking and traffic violation.

Okay, the motion by auto personality is renewal with a 10 day suspension based upon the preponderance of evidence and the uh automatic testimony, applicant testimony, uh testimony from city department representatives that demonstrates the operation results in a threat to the health safety and welfare of the public.

Failure to comply with the approved plan of operation and illegal parking illegal parking.

Um, there any we have to interpret that.

Oh, yeah.

Um, testimonio del Concejal del Distrito 8, the multiple multi-hand received, um, la violation de la regla de estacionamiento.

Did I mean something?

No, it's a legal parking.

Okay.

Are there any objections to the motion?

Hearing is saying non-saw order.

The committee will be completing a report of its findings of fact and conclusions of law recommending to the Milwaukee County Council that your license be renewed but with a 10 day suspension.

You will receive a copy of that report.

You will have the opportunity to file written exceptions to that report.

Um if you do file written exceptions, they must be received by the city clerk by May 27th.

What's the day?

If you submit written exceptions, you will also have the opportunity to appear before the Milwaukee Common Council when it considers this matter on June 2nd.

Um, um, in the Milwaukee Common Council Chambers of City Hall.

Please be further advised that this report is a recommendation to the full country council.

The full counter council makes the final determination whether your license will be renewed, renewed with the suspension or non-renewed.

Do you understand?

Entiende lo que le acabamos de decir?

Thank you.

Yes, we do.

Thank you.

Okay, gracias.

Thank you.

Yes, okay.

See, I think that's a good question.

Okay.

Okay.

Um they do have a provisional, so since it was held at committee on 428, they had a provisional that expired yesterday, but with it being held at committee yet on 428, we extended it.

Um it will expire on June 1st to align with the suspension on June 2nd.

Okay, okay, so suspension start would start June 2nd for 10 days.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you very much, all of you.

And so I think we have an agenda.

I think they have okay.

Is Elma here?

Has a lawyer arrived?

Okay.

Okay, I'll move reconsideration for the 1025 a.m.

agenda item.

Next up on our 1025 a.m.

agenda, Elma Flore Flores, agent for J and E Grocery Store Two Court Food Dealer License Renewal Application for La Hacienda at 2 4 10 West Forest Home Avenue.

Is Elma Flores present?

Hello, Richard.

That's what he said.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Madam Chair, an attorney has to be present.

I'm at I'm here as a witness.

He's not an attorney.

Oh, I thought he was a I'm here as a witness.

No.

You don't have council, so we can't consider it.

Yeah, you have to have a lawyer.

We have to have the agent or council.

Okay.

So we're gonna have to hold again.

He's the agent.

He's no he's not.

No, Elma is.

We need the wife here.

I'm sorry.

Elma is the agent.

Um.

We told him Elma or an uh licensed attorney.

All right, just move to holding proceed.

No, I am not.

Um, okay.

Well, we're gonna have to move to hold this item to the call of the chair.

Okay.

Next up on our 1030 AM agenda, Omar.

Omar Mendoza Coto, agent for Bar Entre Copas, LLC, Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises License Application requesting instrumental musicians, disjockey karaoke and patrons dancing for bar entree copas at 1 2 2 6 West National Avenue.

Is Omar Mendoza Coto present?

Omar Mendoza Coto for Bar Entre Copas L L C are you present?

Have you heard from this applicant um auto person repository?

No, I have not.

I expected them to be here today.

Have you heard from this applicant uh the 10 30 applicant?

We have not, it's the second on appearance.

Okay.

This is a second on appearance.

Uh uh.

Madam Chair.

Auto Prince Amarifa.

I would move um to deny based on second time non appearance.

Motion by order personal repos to deny based on second time not appearance, hearing saying no objections, so ordered.

Next up on our 10 35 a.m.

agenda in the fourth district, Ryan S.

Marks, agent for the VIG Milwaukee LLC, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer License Application requesting instrumental musicians and disc jockey for the VIG Milwaukee at 909 East Michigan Street, second floor south.

Is Ryan S.

Marks present?

We're here in the hallway.

Halloween.

We have a lot of people in the hallway.

Ryan S.

Marks.

Yes.

You can raise your right hand to be sworn in, please.

I'll do it all my.

Are you telling you if you want a defensive bounties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that it testimony will have to be?

Is it good to hold good and have you look at it?

I do.

Thank you.

Okay.

And Attorney Olivia Gailey would like to state your appearance.

Yes.

Uh good morning, attorney Emil Ulview Gailey, appearing on behalf of the applicant.

Are your receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Of the restaurant or my home address.

Wherever you expect to receive mail from the city.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

This is a new business.

Yes.

Would you like to tell us about your plans and experience?

Yeah, absolutely.

I just want to say how excited I am to be here in Milwaukee.

I've been living in Chicago for 17 years, but now I have an apartment here and been spending time here.

I've been visiting for about 15 years.

Absolutely love the city.

The hospitality is incredible.

The food, the beer, the uh art, and the music.

I've been up for quite a few uh concerts, so it's really great.

And also to find the processes so far, has been refreshing that a city that supports small businesses.

Um I've found everybody to be extremely helpful, and they actually want me to be here, so it's a really warm feeling.

So thank you for that.

Uh my background, I started at Taco Bell when I was 14 years old in Knoxville, Tennessee.

I've been doing this my whole life.

Please don't ask me to do anything else.

I don't know how to do it.

Um, so uh I went to Florida State University, Deadman School of Hospitality, graduated there, bounced around the country with Jay Alexander's where I cut my teeth, which is a corporate company.

Um, and then I ran a group of sports bars in Chicago for four years before branching out to do my own company, which is called Legacy Hospitality.

And the VIG is one of our concepts in that uh we have uh two VIGs in Chicago, and this will be our third.

We're excited for it.

Um it was really centered around the philosophy of hiring great people and putting employees first.

Since I've been an employee my whole life, as I mentioned, starting at 14 years old.

Uh, I really wanted to be a great boss, and we've put that at the center of our philosophy, and it's um uh it's really uh been incredible to provide a safe environment and an honest environment for people to work in.

Uh our concept we're an upscale casual, contemporary American.

I kind of say we're a normal restaurant.

Uh, we're not doing anything fancy or different.

Our food is incredible.

Uh everything from chilled lobster tacos, fall off the rib, uh, baby back ribs.

We have Bloody Mary doubled eggs, which are excellent.

Um, yeah, Thai butter salmon, bone and ribeye.

Our burger did beat the number one burger in the country in the burger battle, so by default, we're the number one burger in the country.

Uh and our wings have one wing out uh festival multiple years in a row.

Uh we have brunch, we have chicken and waffles, smoked blocks, platters, and our very famous uh skillet cinnamon roll.

Uh our hospitality is at the foremost of what we do, and we believe in anticipatory and upscale service in a more casual environment.

We have seasonal cocktails and traditional favorites as well.

Um, we will have spotted a cow on tap, which uh approaches a necessary, so we're excited about that, as well as some great beers and wines as well, which is kind of where some of my passions lie.

We do have a high end entertainment section to what we do as the night progresses.

We bring in some great uh very well known uh live acts such as saxophonist or a trumpet or a violinist that play along with DJs we are uh extremely well adept at managing this.

Uh we hire trouble monster in Kaisakau who uh handles all of our bookings he's extremely professional has been written up in Forbes uh as well as our security team we call goodwill ambassadors GWAs we don't believe in the kind of stuffy atmosphere these people should be welcoming uh very excited that they are there and we're very good at making sure it's a clean and organized environment and then lastly our philanthropy and our give back to the community is at the core of what we do it's part of our written culture as well as our practice culture.

We've been involved in over 200 nonprofits since starting 11 years ago in Chicago as well as some of my own that I've I've done myself everything locally we've also done things nationally such as we've been the uh corporate sponsor of the year for the uh MS walk in Chicago uh we do all kinds of neighborhood beautification events we have a bingo every Monday night that gets back to the local community um at uh one of our places in Chicago and we've even built a school in Haiti um so we're very involved uh excited to be a part of this uh community and get back to it as well okay thank you does the committee have any questions about the plan and uh experience or the business our member thank you very much uh you have a one star review on Yelp in Chicago uh they said you play your music too loud and if you play loud music you might as well you should at least play good music I personally want to be on the record I am a fan of Kesha and Lizzo so I would dispute that one star rating with the member.

Thank you.

Uh can we note that we do have 4.8 stars so they're they're the they're in the minority.

Okay thank you Honorable Margellus uh this is in the fourth district Ottoman Obama question okay are there any neighbors present who wish to testify uh let the record reflect there are no neighbors present who wish to testify okay this in the fourth on my district or I have uh approval so outer persons and repo moves approval hearing saying no objections so order thank you good luck thank you for having y'all next up on our 1040 a.m agenda my I need some process Kimanong Conison Kongsen agent for Taste Inspire LLC class B Tavern and Class B tavern application for Wheeler at 217 North Broadway is Koma Kaonang Kong Singh present.

Hi everyone please raise your right hand to be sworn in the Sony of the Ben Center of the State of Wisconsin that the design we want to keep is it doing the whole good and a people the truth yes thank you are your receipt of notice of today's uh meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied yes okay please state your name and address for the record um I'm Kevin Kongsen and the agent of um testing spider at OC um doing business as we always 2017 not broadly milwaukee discomfort two zero two okay thank you uh sergeant um Miss Lopez are there any help for occupants Sergeant Cornejo is there a police report there are no police reports this is a new business it's a new application okay can you please tell us about your plan and experience for the business okay um we are um actually um live in Milwaukee for like sixteen years and then I started the business at Tiny Mayan restaurant uh on um Ricky Street um you probably might get a location and in Russell Wamatosa location and right now we are created another um new business in the third war.

Okay yeah he's gonna be um I was saying modern um casual Thai restaurant is gonna be a little bit upscale than like usual um Tiny M IW serve in the past but however um the concept is gonna be uh mainly it's going to be Thai food.

I'd be incorporate with uh French technique from our um um experience from our chair, which is like he's Thai, but however, yeah, he has a lot of experience in that, and then um I expect that we're gonna bring something unique and then interesting to the neighbor because of um you might not see a lot of Thai food by using like the that technique before.

And at the same time, we would love to um incorporate the food and the drink by using the um Asian or um Thai herbs that we um maybe popular would be um for the cooking.

Yes, yeah, so I think it's we can cover it that um very well, and then we should bring um um life to community as well because I decided uh third one is gonna be very popular right now, and then that's a lot of um customer that um being that they should enjoy our food, and then also we plan to create um at least probably like um 20 plus employment in pretty soon.

Okay.

Alright, thank you.

Do we have any questions from committee about the plan and experience?

Any questions from Autumn Environment about the plan and no objection?

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect there in no chair.

Let the record like there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.

Okay.

Uh Ottoman Jackson moves approval, hearing is again no objection, so ordered.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Next up on our 1050 AM agenda.

Henry, uh Del Del Cid Meza, agent for Meza Ventures M K-E-L-L-C, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer License Application requesting ditch shocking, jukebox, and five amusement machines for sport club at 750 North Jefferson Street.

Is Henry Delset Meza present?

Okay.

Uh everyone who plans on testifying, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Do you saw me a firm on the defense of the suburbia of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

You guys want to shift the mics that way?

Sure.

I'm sorry.

Are you in receipt of today's meeting?

Notice, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Um into the microphone.

My name is Andrew Dels Mesa.

Uh my address is uh 1522 North Bremier in Strait Milwaukee, Wisconsin, five three two or two.

Okay.

Did you also miss are you our partner?

Do you want to state your name and address for the record?

Andrew Joyster, 9506 North Wakefield Court, Baside, Wisconsin, 53217.

Uh Jeffrey Kovakovich, uh, the address is 461 Beachwood Drive, Cedarburg, Wisconsin.

Okay.

Thank you.

Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold for inspection and hold for occupancy.

Sergeant Corneo, is there a police report?

Uh 91416, the applicant was charged with OWI and Ozaki County Circuit Court.

And 10516, they were convicted on implied consent and license was revoked for one year.

Sorry, could you repeat that?

Did you want to speak to the item on the police report and give some?

Oh no, I just did incident happen ten years ago.

That's all I can say, yeah.

Okay.

But does the committee have any questions about the police report?

Army bombing any questions about the police report?

Okay.

Um, is this new?

That was not new.

Okay.

Can you please tell us watch our plan and experience for the business?

Yeah, so uh Sport Club actually opened about eight years ago and was recently shut down.

Um Henry, who's the agent is uh he's been managing for the last four years.

Um Jeffrey and myself uh have some other establishments and we stepped in uh to help um support Henry with this and the partners on the project.

And um yeah, we we look forward to reopening and it's pretty much um uh business as it's been for the last uh eight years or so.

Um restaurant first um tavern inside of course, and um yeah, hoping to be excited to be part of the Cathedral Square neighborhood.

Thank you.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

You can uh come to the mic, state your name and address, and you can begin your testimony.

Okay, to hear me back, of course.

Excuse me, 191 North Broadway, exec director of East Town Association.

Just here to let you know I met with the applicants and their business conforms to what we're looking for in the neighborhood.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Oh goodness, I didn't saw you in.

Yeah, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

So you saw me from the Defense Security Supergirl of the State of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give.

Is it true the whole truth?

And if you want to truth, I do.

Thank you.

Continue, sorry, Chairman.

Okay, just here to voice our support for the new establishment and welcome to the neighborhood.

Okay.

Thank you for the West Town Association.

East Town Association.

Yeah, right there at Cat Data Square.

Okay, thank you.

Any questions for the witness?

No, you were in.

Okay.

All right.

Um we are a this is the fourth R9 district on embowment.

No objection.

Move approval.

Uh motion.

Gellis is approval hearing scene, no objections.

So order, good luck.

Next up on our 11 a.m.

agenda.

Corey L.

Oh no, no.

I've skipped one.

Um 1055 agenda.

Wesley Lee, agent for Happy Holdings Brand, LLC.

Food dealer license renewal application for bowls of rice at 733 through 737, North Milwaukee Street, number Suite K 116.

Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

You assign you if I'm on the defensive penalty subject of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is a true to hold truth and if you were the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Are you over seat of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Okay.

Uh please state your name and address for the record.

Um is Wesley, 733 North Milwaukee.

Okay.

And would you also state your appearance?

I'm appearing on behalf of uh the Mr.

Lee.

My name is Josh Gimbal, Gimbal Riley Garner Brown.

I'm also here in the dual capacity representing paper table, which is the owner of the building and does the front of house.

And I know that we were here four years ago through two years ago about that, and I appeared and we talked about the weird dynamic of the licensee holding the license and the um the paper table running the front of the house.

So I'm here on behalf of both of them.

Okay.

And you can state your appearance as well.

Uh I'm Riley Andrews.

I am appearing on behalf of Paper Table Food Co.

as a director of operations for the company.

Okay, thank you.

Um Ms.

Lopez, are there any holds?

Uh there's a hold for the delinquent bill.

I couldn't hear what you said.

Uh delinquent bill.

Oh, apologies, that was released.

It was a delinquent bill from the health department, but it was clear.

So no holds.

Okay.

Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Okay, that's just nothing.

So um instructions.

There are objections uh in the file and that's why we're here.

So I guess I'll ask our neighbors, right?

Are there any neighbors present over here?

Did you just set the table or is that not appropriate?

Oh, to talk about the objections?

Yeah.

Oh, we just just I mean it'll take me one minute just to give you some background.

I'm gonna weigh into Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Uh one on the seven on the board.

You're maybe some on the board.

Yep.

Okay.

So um everyone who intends to testify, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

See one, two, three, four, five in the room, and one two on the board.

Okay.

Keep your hand raised so you can be sworn in, please.

So you saw me from the defense of the suburbia of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give.

Is it true to the whole truth and if you want the truth?

Thank you.

Okay.

Yeah, you can go ahead and speak to the objection if you if you like, and then auto embowment.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, we talked out in the hallway.

Um, we were here, like I said, two years ago.

Um, and uh we had adopted a proposal on how to deal with traffic patterns in front of the place, and uh we've been following that uh parking guidelines for the past two years.

In March, there was a request for a new licensee to uh be heard and to uh hopefully get a license approved.

And that was the first time that paper table learned that there were some objections that the objections to the manner in which uh the parking plan had been followed, and so uh they immediately reached out to the alderman.

Uh they withdrew the uh motion for that applicant.

They also had an application for uh street uh seating, and they withdrew that so they could address these matters in the meantime, and subsequent to that they have uh reached out to the Alderman with some proposed plans of operation moving forward, and also had a community meeting uh last week, uh neighborhood meeting, and uh they have asked for an audience with Mr.

Bauman, uh, but we didn't get that scheduled, and uh for the first time he suggested some resolutions to me out in the hallway, and we haven't had a chance to consider it.

One of them was to actually hire uh police officers to monitor the no parking areas uh in front of paper table.

They have two no parking spots or you know, that they pay for, and uh oftentimes what happens is uh not only do their Uber Eats or whoever might be picking up go through there, but also people that are picking up or using Uber Eats across the street at the other establishments use that parking as well.

So they have been monitoring that by having a woman who employed Martha, she's here today.

She wears a vest, she goes out there whenever anyone's parking there to see if they're there for her business or some other business if they're there for her business and they're double parked, she tells them to move along or they won't get their orders.

Uh if it's someone else she doesn't engage and she calls parking enforcement, which she has done numerous times over the last couple of years.

Parking uh enforcement doesn't necessarily get there as quickly as uh we would expect them to, and so oftentimes uh there's people parked in their loading zone for their business for extended period of time, and there's also uh two valets, one on the the east side of the street, or the east side and the west side, and that is causing additional uh you know uh problems in the parking around there, and uh what they have uh done in the past is to try to work with the valets to make sure they aren't encroaching or using their no parking uh parking loading zone spots, uh, but they've run into some problems.

Uh we've pred produced and uh in the files a deck of a number of photos from the actual what's happening on the scene, and when we get to it, um uh Ms.

Andrews will present to you a little better mapping of what's going on.

So that gives you the background uh as we are here.

So since we're all presenting evidence and closing arguments before there's even been any evidence, I'll jump right in as well.

The business model here is is designed to create significant parking issues.

Basically, paper table owns a building, one-story building in Milwaukee Street.

Uh, within that building, they rent space to individual kitchen operators who prepare food to orders.

Most of their orders are delivered via DoorDash and Uber Eat vehicles.

These vehicles drive up, drivers get out, go into the premises, pick up their order, and come back out.

And you will hear testimony today about significant double parking, parking chaos, streets being blocked because of these drivers.

And I've seen it with my own eyes at lunchtime, not in the valets, we're not running at lunchtime.

The ballets, some of the restaurants do operate at night, but not at lunch.

And these people were parking double parking both sides of the street, cars running, doors open, and they're inside picking up their order.

And just as a matter of law here, loading zones are available to anyone to actively loader and load.

No one owns a loading zone.

No one has the exclusive right to use a loading zone for just their business.

Loading zone because you can't do that on the public right away.

So that has so that's factual misstatement that I just heard.

So you will hear testimony about from residents as well as other businesses about the driving and motor vehicle confusion and chaos and disorder that occurs because of these individual food dealer licenses.

So, yes, I have made known that until this issue is resolved, and I don't know that it is resolvable.

Because I thought we had a resolution two years ago.

I was on board, and they haven't been monitoring it, and it has not worked, as you will hear from the witnesses.

So that's a misstatement of fact.

It has not worked.

Whether they're monitoring it or not, I can't say, but clearly it has not worked because the proof is in the complaints that my office has been receiving.

Okay.

So we're going to.

I don't know if that this is resolvable.

This is gonna turn into a lengthy hearing because there's a lot of witnesses.

Yeah, we'll hear from the witnesses now then so we can hear it.

If you're here in opposition elsewhere, sorry.

Yes.

If you're in opposition, can you please come to the standing mic?

Everybody got sworn in.

Everybody got sworn in.

So if you are opposed to this license, please come to the standing mic.

State your name and address.

You've already been sworn in.

So state your name and address, and you'll be given two and a half minutes to give your testimony.

Okay.

My name is Matthew Pegankoff, 2254 South 57th Street, Unit A, West Dallas, Wisconsin.

I'm here today in opposition.

Go ahead.

Okay.

All right.

Formally requesting me investigation code enforcement review and shutdown of the Ghost Kitchen operating as the paper table on Milwaukee Street.

This establishment has created a very unsafe work environment for me and my associates.

I work for Luxury Valet.

Between the unlicensed drivers, hostile work environment, the loading zones are unaccessible, double parking, as that gentleman said.

You took over the microphone.

Use the microphone.

I'm sorry.

So this is my boss.

He is the owner of Luxury Valet.

And the reason why we're here is because we don't want this operating in our city anymore, especially on Milwaukee Street.

It's creating unsafe.

I've been I've had a gun pulled on me.

From a driver without a license.

He had no license plate.

There's no really preventing that unless we move this location somewhere else.

Um, it's we put in the hop.

The hop can't get through there anymore.

It cannot get through there because there's double parked cars.

Why would we install a hop if we can't use it?

So that creates disruption and intimidates the public.

So people can't access Milwaukee Street like they typically could on a day-to-day basis.

They have a lot of drivers will drive around Milwaukee Street just so they can go through traffic.

Um it's not operating with compliance and responsible stakeholders to our community.

I believe it's a nuisance and a threat to our community.

And I believe that I asked the city to review their license, investigate their ongoing zoning and traffic violations, and possibly shut down this disruptive operation.

Thank you.

Just stay there for questions.

Are there any questions from committee for this witness and chat?

So what is the hop do if you see it can't go through?

What is it?

It just sits there and beeps and waits beeps for maybe 10 minutes.

So now the hops behind the schedule.

Because they got to wait for the people at the paper table to move their vehicles out of the middle of the road.

Thank you.

But for this witness.

Yeah, so you are physically present.

Yes.

And you work for which uh luxury valet, the the valet companies that do uh Zarletties, and we also do carbon cuminitas or what was former Carnivore and Conroy.

Okay.

And you will hear testimony that the valets are to blame for all this road confusion and traffic confusion.

What do you say to that allegation?

Uh we I don't think we're responsible because we aren't responsible for any of the vehicles on the speaker to the mic.

We only park can you come to the mic?

We only park in the legal zones in our designated parking spots like every other citizen does.

We park our we park like legal citizens.

Do you double park vehicles on the street?

Never.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um any questions from the applicant for this witness.

Yeah, I didn't get your last name.

I heard it was Pegankoff, that's P-A-G-E-N-K-O-P-F.

Mr.

Pegankoff.

Uh how long have you worked for Luxury Valet?

It's been going on about 11 years now.

Okay.

And and at that location, there is a valet stand on both uh the northbound lane and the southbound lane.

Is that correct?

I believe it would just be the north side lane mostly.

Well both sides.

Correct.

It's on both sides.

It is.

And uh westward.

Okay.

Northbound and southbound lanes.

So so you have stations right there across from each other, is that right?

Correct.

And that uh the the north the southbound lane is a one lane of traffic, is that correct?

Correct.

And the northbound is two lanes of traffic.

Yes.

And um have you seen the deck of photos taken that were submitted here today?

I have not, no.

Okay.

Did you know that uh do you have any empirical data to show that double parking is only uh being done at the paper table establishment?

Um from our understanding when we get a customer for a conroy, we tell them to flip around when it's safe to do so on another street, come back around and pull up into our two-lane zone.

And what is it surprised you if sometimes you have two or three cars parked uh waiting for valet?

It could happen, yes.

So that would be a double parking out there.

It could happen, yes.

Okay, that's all I have.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You can have a seat.

And the next witness can come up.

So uh you're just gonna state your name and address, and then you're you'll be given two and a half minutes for your testimony.

Uh my name is first is Ricky, last name is Lee.

My address is 37906 Wildwood Lane, you know, Conwalk.

And I manage Luxury Valet, the valet service on Walkie Street.

So I'm here to oppose.

Um what I'm noticing is patrons picking up Uber Eats are blocking loading zones, so customers cannot pull into those loading zones properly.

Elderly have to walk from unsafe traffic locations through.

You know, we tried a couple different ways.

Early on we tried to cone off so Uber Eats could not pull in to block those, but then that was still causing customers to pull up in the lane, so we decided to try something different, moving the cones.

We get it uh everybody's gotta make money out there, Uber E's gotta make money.

I think it's a great idea, but it's just bad bad location.

Bad location.

Um we work with them as much as we can sometimes be a little angry with us when we ask them to pull up so their guests that are patronizing the restaurants can pull in, but a lot of that time.

Some of them don't speak English, some just say uh it's gonna be five minutes.

Next thing you know it's fifteen, twenty minutes, cars still there causing the backups, causing the double parking because they now can't pull into the designated loading area to load and unload for the restaurants, so it's just causing a backup on top of that.

Customers are waiting.

They're thinking those are delivery cars that are waiting to valet, so they're waiting, waiting, waiting, and double cars, double parking on both north and southbound, which is then causing these backups.

Valentine's Day, I wish I had a picture, but it was a good 10, 15 minutes, it was just a gridlock.

Trolley couldn't go through.

Nobody wanted to go in reverse.

Or standing there.

And police came eventually, but what it had to do was the uh the southbound had to back up to get anybody moving on both sides, and it was all caused of, you know, Valentine's Day, a lot of pickups, and on top of it a lot of patrons going to the restaurants, so it's nothing we can really do.

Can't we were busy before paper table came and flow was always nice and smooth and now it's constantly congestion.

Okay, thank you.

Does the committee have any questions for this witness?

What would happen if uh Uber Eats driver went into your loading zone at the restaurant?

We allow, we allow them to.

We don't own the loading zones.

You know, just say, ah, you know, can you make it quick?

Can you make quick?

Some of them, you know, are really good and some of them uh, you know, leaving kids in the cars and unattended, and next thing you know it's fifteen minutes later and they're still there, but you know, like I said, we don't we don't own the loading zone, neither of the restaurants.

But you but you put your cones into the public street?

We used to traffic.

We used to.

We used to block the loading zone so they couldn't pull in there, and then we decided to try something different and move those and up I'm sorry.

You used your cones to block whose loading zone?

So the restaurants in front of the restaurants to prevent someone from the public from using the loading zone so we would get to because they were parking there for extended period of time and it was causing customers to have to use the what the what the time limit is for loading zone fifteen minutes.

Okay.

Alright thank you venture thank you uh does the app guy have any questions for this witness?

Oh I thought you're uh yeah I do have a couple questions um so as recently as the last month or so we're using cones to block off certain spaces in the last month no in the last two months three months possibly yeah yeah and have you ever worked with uh Martha who is the manager at paper yeah yeah actually have a go out there with a vest on to try to people move people along I see her I see her often but again so she tries to keep the people that are coming to uh paper table moving out of the zone.

Yeah her and I talk number of times and see her here but yeah she's here okay.

Oh okay oh no I'm thinking of the um oh the lady with the vests on yeah the other lady okay um and then um I got a phone call just so I'm clear you heard the testimony of your employee so you have you have stations on both sides right you do and you know that um there are three or four other restaurants on that street that use Uber Eats and DoorDash and those oh yeah so they have the same needs for uh quick in and out yeah yeah yeah right yeah and oftentimes when you're talking about blockage going north uh where the where the um hop drives that's on the side of those restaurants right the good ideas but a lot of people since there's no signage on soda paper table a lot of them are like will ask where bowls ice or where BW3s or where these places are they park on our side we allow 'em you know you're on both sides though right but uh we're talking about the bigger loading zone on the north side and then the only other question I have for you is is you've seen the signage in front of the paper table talk about no level parking and okay yeah thank you that's all I uh bombing questions for the sweetness yes oh regarding that sign that uh sandwich sign that's on the sidewalk uh you see people uh following that sign uh never never do uh unless it's a slow night but I think you know they again they gotta make their money so they hop out wherever they can and give us a sense on a typical Friday night say 7 PM uh how many delivery vehicles will come and go from the paper table five ten fifty hundred thank you thank you uh next witness thank you just state your name and address Mark you'll be giving two and a half minutes my name is Mark Hemminger I'm actually the general manager at Carnivore.

We're located right across the street from paper table.

Our business address is 718 North Milwaukee Street five three two zero two um I come today as well some of our neighbors were not able to attend but we did just kind of draft a little ladder.

These are all local businesses this is Carnivore here Hotel Metro Valet Kubanita's the convoy this is pretty much the block.

Um I'm I work in restaurants I support them I love them.

I don't want to shut them down but the location for this place is it just doesn't make any sense.

The street is a circus and mind you I'm inside most of the time, but I hear the hop honking and I go out and I'm like, what is going on?

Ah.

It's a zoo outside of paper table.

The drivers coming and going.

People are parked on both sides.

I have customers that have had their cars hit.

We go out every time.

It's a paper table driver.

No license, no registration.

It's I just think it's bad for the neighborhood.

We have all these beautiful restaurants, hotels, and it's it's it's a mess for the streets.

So I do support the idea of a new solution for drivers.

Not drivers on Milwaukee Street.

I'll leave it at that.

Okay.

Just stay there for questions.

Does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Do you have any questions?

Uh is the applicant having questions for this witness?

Yeah.

Does Carnivore use Uber Eats or Toast?

Okay.

But the neighbors do.

Many of them do.

I don't I wouldn't say many.

Kubanitas a little bit.

Uh we need it.

Actually, yeah, Marta who signed here from Kubernetes has actually said that the drivers from paper table were making it harder for her drivers during the day.

And you know that there's uh like we said, and I I don't want to rehash something, but but the there's uh ballets on both sides of the street where traffic is coming in and out of there.

And oftentimes there's two or three lined up for the ballet so the next valet can go in the next car and move it along.

Oh, that's a question.

Yes, that has no, I'm asking you if that's your point.

Oh, yes, that happened.

And have you seen the cones set up there to block off of I do see the cones get moved around both sides?

And that's right.

Those are cones from the valet operators, correct?

I do not know.

Okay.

Have you ever seen any columns in front of uh of carnivore?

Yes.

Paper table?

Yes.

You've seen.

And would you know if they place that there?

I did not know.

Okay.

And that's all I have for you.

Thanks.

Alright, cool.

Any questions for Otto and Bowman?

Did you I just want to ask if you submitted that letter to the file that you have?

We just signed it off, so I can email it to you or just get it.

Okay.

I guess I guess I would just say that if it's his letter, that's fine, but if it's letters from other people, certainly the applicant hasn't had a chance to see any of those.

Yeah, that should be circulated.

If it is uh, if that's a basis for any action, I think it would not be appropriate.

Well, so the objection is logged.

Um, what you can do is you could copy that and circulate.

Um again, we've we've dealt with or deal with um, I would say uh like petitions with some regularity.

We understand their value as far as um evidentiary value, and they have all been informed and trained on the limited value.

The committee that is has been trained on the limited value of um petition evidence, but um I again it should be photographed or um copied and circulated to the um the applicant here.

If it's going to be accepted by the committee as evidence.

Do you want to accept?

I want to check out yes.

I just something like this has to be noticed so that the applicant can view it as well.

So I would agree with attorney gimbal that he didn't have a chance to review it, um, unless the committee feels otherwise.

So that's why we don't we can keep it out.

Uh the next witness.

You can just hand it back to him.

That's it's not gonna be interesting.

And he certainly mentioned them in his verbal testimony.

Yeah, like this.

Please state your name and address, and you can start your testimony.

Good morning.

My name is Heidi Meyer.

I live at 741 North Milwaukee Street, number 503, you uh Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53202.

We live directly next to paper table on the north side face of the of the establishment, which used to be an art gallery, it is now a kitchen, and I live on the south side of the building, which is where all of the vents for the kitchens are located.

The smell is awful.

It is the constant smell of frozen chicken frying all day.

In fact, I got up at two o'clock in the morning the other morning to take my little dog for a walk, and the smell was atrocious at two o'clock in the morning.

We cannot open our windows on the south side of our building, which we I have personally lived in since the inception of the condo building in 2001.

Um many of the homeowners on the south side, I am a board member as well, have complained to me.

We have brought it up in annual meetings discussing the horrible smell that is exuding from this establishment.

We cannot use our balconies, we cannot entertain outside on our balconies, we cannot open our windows day or night.

So that means our air conditioning has to stay on all the time, our heater has to stay on all the time because we're not able to get fresh smell, fresh air into our condominiums.

This is the reason why I am here to represent the board to represent our association and to represent our neighborhood.

I retract, thank you.

Uh does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Madam Chair.

So you would like them to be non-renewed today?

Definitely not renewed.

And then this is a food hall, correct?

This is a food hall.

But you but you're certain that that smell is coming from this.

Oh, absolutely.

I walk the neighborhood every day, as many of my local neighbors on the neighborhood see me walk.

Um McDonald's smells better.

But uh it's a food hall.

Are there other people?

Are there other businesses?

If it's a food hall, are there other businesses in paper table making food?

I am unsure who is in that kitchen.

Uh I do not frequent the establishment, so I do not know.

I just know of the constant smell.

I don't under I don't know who is actually the small business inside the establishment.

All right, thank you.

Auto member galleys.

Thank you.

Um your condo building uh you have a tenant uh for a restaurant in your building, right?

We do.

Um, do they serve chicken?

They do not.

Not that I know of.

It's Italian, so it's spicy Italian food.

I think they do serve chicken, but um how do you the the smell, how have you been able to trace it to a particular building?

Well, I can tell you I can see the puffs of smoke coming up from the actual vents on the rooftop of paper table.

And how far away so the the vents are below your balcony or I'm on the fifth floor, and there is they are at level of the second floor.

Okay.

So you you open the window, you s you know that it's coming from that is correct.

Correct.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh does the applicant have any questions for this window?

Just a couple.

Um have you noticed the smell in the last four or five days?

Absolutely.

And do you uh understand that this applicant is not in business right now?

He's not operating.

That's fine.

I'm just here for on the paper table.

I don't know any of the other particulars.

We're here for the license for this particular licensee, so he hasn't been operating for the last six days or so.

Perfect.

I don't know that.

And have you uh reached out in any way, shape, or form to paper table?

Yes, the previous name uh Nate, I think was his name, was the previous manager.

We have discussed this.

Um, but there's no resolution.

I don't know.

Thank you.

Aaron Bama, you have any questions for this?

Any uh observations of the uh situation with the street in front of paper table and the parking.

Um many hub cabalists thumping smoke-filled vehicles with children left inside are parked outside of our building.

They're the and go into paper table.

They're the delivery vehicles.

These are I don't know who they are, they're going into paper table.

And leaving children in their cars.

Yes, cars running.

Yes.

You've observed that with your own eyes.

Yes, I have.

Thank you.

I just and in light of that question.

I think I have a right to ask for another question.

Yeah, if we're gonna uh we should probably order it just so that committee and then local alder and then we have cross-examination allowable.

So just if we can correct that in the future and then allow for cross here.

Okay.

So we'll go with the stuff.

I just have to clear clarify one.

Go ahead.

So so these cars are there.

Those are either Uber drivers, Uber Eats drivers, or um DoorDash drivers, is that correct?

I have no idea who they are.

I don't go up and ask.

They just go inside the paper table.

Right, but you know that they don't have signs saying that they're uh associated with paper table, do they?

But they're going in to pick up bags of food from paper table.

But you understand how the uh have you ever used Uber Eats?

No.

You ever use Dor DoorDash?

No.

You understand that those are independent uh contractors that pick up food?

Perfect.

Okay.

So I thank you.

Thank you.

Uh next witness, we said your name and address, and you can be in your testimony, given two and a half minutes.

I'm John Tyson.

I own the Milwaukee Street Barbershop at 715 North Milwaukee Street.

Um we've been operating for 12 years now.

So I've had and my window faces and um faces the street and right across from uh Carnivore and have watched the change in the street.

Um to the valet's points.

Things were manageable.

It wasn't that there wasn't a car in the street on occasion, but they were relatively in and out and they were there was oversight involved.

It doesn't seem like that's going on much with paper table, at least not historically.

I spoke with Riley earlier who said that Marta is now managing that.

Um I'm in support of having the business there.

I want to see them succeed, and I I like seeing the street thriving.

Um, but this is currently unsustainable.

There there is going to be an accident at some point.

You've got a train going northbound.

You've got people parking on the southbound lane and just leaving their cars.

I can show you a video of a car sitting there for 20 minutes.

Um you know, I I haven't addressed paper table about it because I thought somebody else would, to be honest with you.

But that's why I'm here today.

Um my hope is that there's some oversight, that there's a plan put together, that there are people that are there not just for the next month or two months, but it's a sustainable plan that we can keep going for a long time.

Um like I said, my window faces it.

I've watched it, I've watched the change.

It's anecdotal.

Uh again, Riley gave me some info that said statistically they're not there that long, but statistics kind of break down when you've got one person skewing the numbers.

So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them, but um, you know, I also would say paper table's probably not going anywhere.

They've got 17 kitchens in there.

I can't imagine what that build out is.

So we want something like that in the neighborhood.

We just want to see it run right.

Okay.

Any questions from committee for this witness?

Okay, we'll wait till Otter Embowman comes back.

See if he has questions.

I would move on to the.

He said we're going in a different order.

If we I want to say, the problem is it just it continues to open for cross.

So if we keep doing that in the order, then there's kind of a it kind of continues.

Well, you didn't hear the didn't hear the applicant.

Any questions for this witness?

John, um, I've known you since we both had hair and I needed a barber.

Um we talked in the hallway, Riley came up with some thoughts and suggestions.

You're in favor of looking for a solution to this problem.

So yeah, to use the mic, Josh.

I'm sorry.

You're looking I'm sorry.

Uh you're looking for a solution to this problem.

You're not looking to shut down businesses.

You like to find a a way that everyone can cohabit, co-work.

Again, as long as it's sustainable.

You know, but what I don't want to do is have something approved and then again two or three months down the road, be looking at the same thing.

Sure.

And any info I had, as I said, is anecdotal.

Yeah, but I am there just about every day of the week looking out there.

And and you and I think when we talked out in the hallway, you said that there were problems caused on both sides of the street.

That the valet have issues and the valet did have issues, but it wasn't as pronounced.

Okay.

And there wasn't a streetcar, and that plays a role in it too.

So we've got a congested street.

Let's find a solution to it.

Thank you.

That's all I thank you.

Um we have two, and I think we have two witnesses on the board.

Were you in opposition or in favor?

Um, can I be neutral?

No.

No.

Um, I mean, I think the last one was pretty neutral.

Um, and the other person, uh were you in opposition or in favor?

He's part of uh paper table.

Oh, okay.

So you can go ahead, David.

Yeah, um, it just said, you know, add some context to it, I think.

Um, say to your name and address also, you'll give in two and a half.

Uh my name's David Cohen, I'm a resident of 1108 North Milwaukee Street, Unit 261.

Um, thank you um to the committee, to Oliver Bauman to attorney Gimmel and the um the licensee for the opportunity to share.

I think, you know, as you've seen, this is a really complicated situation with a bunch of different parties that are all trying to operate, and you know, I'm hopeful it's all within within good faith, and I think I share the some of the thoughts of uh just broadly this business, um, you know, where right or bowls of rice is a tenant just does not make sense at that location.

Um, but we are here and um you know that's where that's our discussion.

So I'd like to share concerns related to the paper table food company located at 733 Markwalkie Street as you consider this license renewal for uh application for bowls of rice, uh tenant of that location.

I want to be clear, um, that I am not formally objecting to this specific license renewal.

Um, nor am I singling off bowls of rice as an individual operator.

Uh however, I do believe there are broader structural and operational issues associated with the paper table business model at this location that continue to create significant impacts on the surrounding area.

Over an extended period of time, I've observed recurring traffic and safety issues caused by the high volume of third-party delivery drivers servicing the facility.

Driver's group's uh services such as Doordash and Uber Eats, frequently double park on Wonkey Street, sometimes blocking traffic entirely, or reducing the roadway to a single lane during peak meal times.

This often occurs regularly and creates uh safety concerns for drivers, cyclists, pedestrians, nearby residents, and neighboring businesses along a busy downtown corridor.

Well, there is a loading zone present, uh as we've heard, it's insufficient for the delivery traffic generated uh by the number of food operations being run out of this one facility.

Uh last week I was invited to meet with the business owners, uh and I appreciate the opportunity to have a constructive dialogue about potential solutions.

Uh we discussed potential potential operational changes, including banning drivers uh that they observe parking illegally, uh adding additional loading zone capacity and increasing your uh and potentially leasing nearby surface law spaces so delivery drivers would have a uh appropriate places to park uh while picking up orders.

I appreciate the willingness of the ownership to engage in dialogue with me regarding these concerns, uh and I would encourage them to continue working in in good faith with the city and neighboring businesses uh and residents on practical solutions moving forward.

Um I also recognize that the committee is considering a specific license application today.

Uh and I asked my testimony to figure out that I have my testimony regarding our location be taking consideration as part of your evaluation.

Okay, thank you.

Does the committee oh does it quick does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Uh in Bauman, you have any questions for this witness?

Can I have any questions?

I only have a statement that I appreciate that uh Mr.

Cone came to our neighborhood meeting last week and we had a very healthy dialogue.