Structures.

Council.

And the questions, comments.

Mr.

Reynolds.

Comment that what you just said seems to be in conflict with on the first page item D, where the additional language has been added.

Under no circumstances, the city undertaking a duty to register and maintain any vacant commercial structure.

What you said about page five item D, this creates two methods of uh compliance.

One is voluntary, voluntarily registering, and on the other hand, the city registering.

So I think that's in direct conflict with that.

So the good thing about that question is it allows us to bring another point of clarity.

So from a legal standpoint, a duty to all is is a duty to none.

Um, and so if it is equally applied across the base for everyone, and then yeah, that's not an instruction, that's just that's a standard part of what we do.

A duty to all is a duty to none.

And what the ordinance specifically says is we're not taking a duty.

There's not two ways, there's not two ways to enforce this.

There's one way, either you comply, which doesn't require enforcement, or you don't comply, which requires enforcement.

So now there's two different ways to go on the register.

One, you voluntarily do it, or two, we we ask you to do it.

And so that that wouldn't be any different than any other ordinance.

Either you voluntary stop and stop signs, or you don't and a question of comments from this council.

I have one other question, Ms.

Runnels.

If I own a building in downtown Mobile, commercial building, and I use it for one day a year.

Would I be subjected to registration?

It depends on how you use it that one day a year.

Right.

I use it to store boxes.

Okay, well, then that's gonna make it vacant.

What if I use it to set up a computer and you know conduct a little bit of business?

Then if you can show us that you're affirmatively doing that on a regular basis, if you go in there doing that, then we would take a real look at that, and that would be subject to it would be subject to the registry.

However, if you're using it on a regular basis, or you're using it, say, for instance, for a legitimate business, and you're not just trying to skirt the system, then we would look at that.

Yeah, but it would be up, it would just to be up to the you know, the reasonable determination of the city.

Right.

Okay, all right.

That's it.

Thank you.

I'll I'll offer my amendment.

All right, all right, Mr.

Mr.

President.

Well, we're what we're asking is that the amendments that have been put before you be the ones that go forward, and then it is inclusive of all of the rentals amendment, save taking out the the section D and taking out the duty part.

Um, and then of course, adding Dr.

Ingram's amendment and then adding what the mayor's office is suggesting reference to duty, and that's the document that we're offering with all of the amendments, the one that's before you today.

So that's the rentals amend the Reynolds Ingram version of the document.

One other thing, Mr.

President, I will include uh your amended amendment as part of mine when I offer it so that there's not you know additional offering.

So what I offer will be that exact language that's taken that was added, and I'll put it in mind so that there's not that conflict that exists between us.

So basically we're too uh sentence, I guess, is what the sentence being under no circumstances city undertaking.

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, my amendment still strikes D in its entirety.

Her uh Samantha's uh amendment was uh elsewhere.

It's on page five, yeah.

Page five regarding the demolition and compliance with the yeah, it's still need to be separate just in case somebody don't want to vote for either one.

I mean so you want to you want to go down these and offer every one of these amendments.

Is that what you're saying?

No, um I'm saying is if there is anyone that's opposed to you know um this amendment to D.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm gonna offer my amendment, and if somebody wants to offer some additional or different amendment, they certainly can.

I'm just saying that my amendment will be inclusive of the language that you're requesting.

So you would just be adding hers to yours.

So that's exactly right.

So I'll offer my amendment, and if somebody wants to offer a different one, they're certainly welcome to do that from the floor.

All right, all right, thank you.

Thank you.

Any questions for me?

All right, all right, all right, thank you.

Madam Clerk.

Oh okay.

CIP resolutions held over 08141.

Approved purchase order to game time for new playground equipment.

Lever left rhetoric park.

21 14 and 32 authorized contract with persons services corp for figures park community center.

21 1433 authorized contract of Rogers and Willard for Taylor Park Community Center.

Consent resolutions held over 401157.

Declare the structure at 506 Patent Avenue Public Lucent and order it demolished.

Resolutions held over 2114.

I'm sorry, we have a permit from the property owner, and I would recommend that we table this to give the property owner time to repair their structure.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Resolution is held over 211414 authorized contract with United Methodist Intercity Mission Mobile for maintenance and operation of Ticular Park Recreation Center, playground swim pool and waiting pool.

Mr.

President.

Yeah, Ms.

Ronald.

There's no budget amendment still on this agenda today for this item.

If we're gonna move money from one account to another to handle this performance contract, then the budget amendment needs to be on the agenda to move that money.

It's not on the agenda.

Can we get a budget amendment added between now and the time we vote?

I'm not real sure that it's gonna require a budget amendment.

The um out of the general fund, there's a performance contract for $50,000 or for a file a nonprofit that is no longer in business.

So part of that funding is coming from there, the other part is coming from general fund contingency.

So it's all being done within the general fund okay.

So that's the way that we're gonna proceed handling performance contracts going forward.

I just think it's a a standard that we shouldn't slippery slope, we shouldn't do.

If we're gonna give performance contracts, as we have historically, especially for this particular group, then those need to be outlined in our budget.

And if we're saying that this is not a performance contract and we're gonna handle it differently through contingency and the value of some other it is a performance contract.

It's just the funding is what I thought you were referring to.

Referring to the funding, but in our budget, it currently shows that this has been a performance contract for as many years going back as we can see.

This year it was a zeroed-out performance contract line item, which means that money was allocated somewhere else.

I'm just suggesting that it's wise that if we are going to enter into this performance contract, that just for the general public's knowledge and understanding that not saying you're doing anything wrong.

I'm just saying for the general public's understanding and knowledge, we should say if we're gonna continue this performance contract, we should amend the budget by simple line item that says moving money from this account to that account fund this line.

So that's not a requirement under this circumstance.

I just want to make sure everybody's clear that you know I'm glad Mr.

Reynolds said that uh nobody's doing anything wrong.

So I can't tell you why or why not it was zeroed out.

That was not something I recall.

Um, but what I can tell you is what we're doing is permissible to be able to fund it.

Um, and as far as transfers are concerned, uh, you know, those are those are required at certain times.

This is not one of those times.

So we'll we'll fund it appropriately.

Um, and make sure that we do so.

But I think Mr.

Reynolds' question is well taken.

What we do for general good bookkeeping and and and transparency is always ask the question.

So it was the question was asked, and we're giving you know the appropriate answer if there's the funding in the general fund, and it is in this because it is in the same latent area, then you're able to do this.

Um as long as the funding is there and the finance director certifies in the council votes on it for general public purpose, therefore it's it's it's legal and good.

So the the point of transparency is that it is on the agenda as required, and then you all do have to affirmatively vote on it in order to expend those funds.

Mr.

President, I don't understand why we vote on performance contracts in our budget at all.

I just I don't I simply don't understand it.

Why would we why would we do that at all?

It just seems unnecessary.

So well, that is a really good point, and I will absolutely get you all an amendment that allows you to not vote on them if you would like me to do so, but you don't have to give me an answer about that.

I mean, we'd like to see the line of sight to all the contracts we do, but I I just don't see what's the purpose, you know.

You know, you can you could say, well, that 50,000 from this company who we got the performance contract with, we'll just move it over to some other person and then we'll pull 50,000 from some other place and just what's the point of it's minimize and everything.

I mean it's uh it's a longer story than we have time for today, uh, at a time when the council and the mayor's office were not locked up.

Council Mayor.

I was going to ask regarding the same area.

You said there are times that you, if it's in the same area, you a transfer is not required.

Is that correct?

Ask me that.

I'm sorry, ask me that question again, Dr.

Angel.

I thought I heard you say that if it's in the same area, a transfer is not required.

If it is in the same area and it's going to be used for the same purpose.

So only transfers are only initiated, only initiated through the mayor saying this is what we're going to do, right?

So if the mayor says we're going to transfer, then that has to be put on the agenda.

And then we also have to vote on it.

If it's going to be used for a different purpose, and it's already been designated for a purpose, uh, and then we have been we have been either locked in by ordinance, you know, say expenditure or by contract, meaning it's been obligated, then council also has to vote on that as well.

So if funds have been obligated, then we'll have to do something different.

Thank you.

But those are initiated transfers, all transfers, one way or another are initiated through the mayor's office.

Councilman Woods, um, definitely agree and definitely understand that uh, you know, we don't have to change that, or uh, I see your thought process on that.

But um, I do think I do do stand with with Mr.

Reynolds.

Uh I would rather it be a budget amendment.

Um, you know, again, because if we we walk through the whole budgeting and finance process every year, and here we are, you know, we start getting contacted about performance uh contract uh folks, you know, letting us know that they're still doing good in the community.

And um, you know, there's just a lot of vagueness when it comes to these performance contracts, and I definitely understand and follow you on that.

Um, but also on the on the council side of the house.

I know I'm walking through this on a on another um another issue, and even even with this performance contract that we're talking about, um, working with the builders to get um I you know if possible, um, would love to sit down with uh the finance department and figure out how to tap into some of these things because I think uh, you know, in my instance of trying to to take money and and uh and send it to turf afield um from uh capital uh district six capital, uh it's been kind of hard and nobody really understands the process of tapping into these without doing a performance contract.

So I really think over the next couple months, would love to sit down with you guys to walk through what what a performance contract uh you know looks like and when it's required or um especially for line of sight.

Um then the the final thing is is um you know I know performance contracts in years past have been have been a very hot topic of discussion.

Uh you know, I I would just challenge that any any new further uh any further uh performance contracts, new contracts that we do we put some verbed uh verbiage in there where there's some sort of reporting back.

I know right now I just think that the money goes out and we just hope that they're doing what they say they're doing with it.

Um, I would I would definitely like move forward to see something tangible so that you know we can be responsible to the taxpayer and say, you know, this is what this is the impact that these performance contracts had in the area.

Um that that's all I want to say.

Thank you.

Uh well, councilman was that's why you define that as chair.

Okay, councilwoman.

So thank you, Mr.

President.

So what I hear you saying is that he's defined as so that we can move forward with trying to find a structure or process that we can get feedback back regarding the performance of these contracts.

Okay, you can call a meeting.

Okay, thank you.

All right, all right.

Um, Madam Clerk.

Resolution 01144, authorized agreement and for transfer of right away from Alabama Department of Transportation to the City for additional lanes on Ziegler Boulevard.

01145, authorized memorandum of understanding between the U.S.

Department of Justice, United States Marshall Service and the City of Mobile Police Department.

081436 approved purchase order to Ironbow Technologies.

211439, authorized contract with AACRC doing business as animal clinic and rehab center.

21 1440, authorized contract with AGWIT LLC to provide professional services for the Office of Resilience.

21 1441 authorized contract with C4 Capital doing business as bills for professional consulting service, C4 bills for professional consulting services.

Department 081436 approved purchase order to Ironbow Technologies 21 1439 authorized contract with AACRC doing business as animal clinic and rehab center 21 1440 authorized contract with AGWIT LLC to provide professional services for the Office of Resilience 21 1441 authorized contract with C4 Capital doing business as bills for professional consulting service C4 bills for professional consulting services 21 1442 authorized contract with diversified maintenance RWS for janitorial service at the National Maritime Museum of the Gulf 21 1443 authorized contract with Dorsey and Dorsey Engineering for 2026 CIP Resurfacing District 6 21 1444 authorized contract with DBM IMS PC doing business as Tillman's Corner Veterinary Hospital 21 1446 authorized contract for licensing and implementation of video management system for security cameras 21 1447 authorized contract with SARGAS Consulting 2026 CIP Resurfacing Council Districts 12345 and 7 31 1448 authorized mayor to apply accept and receive a grant from the federal transit administration for federal transportation assistance 371449 considered application of Acadian Ambulance Service for Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity to operate an ambulance service.

Council, I want to send this to a committee to public safety.

Give with vice president Gregory, but I'm gonna just uh hold this over for eight weeks.

Eight eight zero three fourteen fifty and fourteen fifty one are appointing Curtis Graves as executive director of public safety and appointing Barry Glisten as chief of the mobile fire and rescue department.

Mr.

President uh Mr.

Woods um real quick I just want to go back and just make a note um the resurfacing of district six the 21-1443 um just want to say thank you to the to the staff for getting this across the finish line this is really the night the uh the first real substantial um repaving in the newly annexed area so thank you i appreciate y'all getting that through and it took some time we obviously had the the survey and the study and and had to identify things but I did want to make a point this is really the first repaving of uh you know of substance in the neighborhoods in district six and they were newly annexed so thank y'all for that and then um I also want to just uh congratulate uh uh Curtis and Barry um you know last week I we did I didn't mention or no one mentioned it but um this is this is pretty big um for both of them so I just want to say congratulations and uh looking forward to working with y'all all right clerk consent resolutions being introduced 40 1452 through 1453 1454 are declaring the structures public nuisance and ordering them demolish 40 1455 through 40 1460 are fixing cost with demolition of structures mr president uh missing yes i would like to know if we can get a a cost estimate for securing versus um i know the ones that are here now are definitely at demolition i've rode by i've had an opportunity to see the properties but just to get an idea of what it would cost on an average to secure these homes okay uh mr dockerbart okay i'm sorry uh mr president yes um are uh could you clarify which ones you're referring to the fixed cost ones or the first three items that we're looking for the demolition the first three items um the first three items i don't have those costs for a specific amount um we're looking at securing it and it varies on each structure now some of these that we have before you today the first three that we're requesting demolition there is major structural failure on these and it may be very expensive so I don't I really don't feel comfortable giving out but on average we see for securing this may help um anywhere from five to ten thousand dollars to secure but each property is its unique um site so the costs are gonna vary dependent upon the cost to secure but again um due to the condition of these structures the first three I do recommend we go forward with the the demolition of the structures thank you for that and you answered my question the average 5,000 to 1000 correct that is correct and and then all like each each site for a single family one story like we discussed prior to two stories and larger structures will the cost will increase to secure thank you I'm good thank you all right sixty fourteen sixty one and fourteen sixty two are approved and award a special bonus to the officer of the month and firefighter of the month 60 1463 through 1469 are uh determined appropriations to bear women core women's coalition john a lafloor magnet high school secret scientists mobile law enforcement foundation friendship missionary baptist church and magnolia springs estates property owners association serve a public purpose and approving payment resolutions being introduced 081470 approved purchase order to all tech industries for our articulating bucket truck for urban forestry 21275 dollars up for 47 1471 and 1472 is the um vacation and the vacation fee

Resolutions being introduced, 081470, approved purchase order to all tech industries for our articulating bucket truck for urban forestry 212,775.

Up for 471471 and 1472 is the um vacation and the vacation fee for MAACDC.

Call for public hearings 41 1474, call for public hearing to consider the vacation of an alley adjacent to 6 South Franklin Street, scheduled January 6th.

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