It is 6 10.

I'll call the Geno committee meeting to order.

Uh clerk call the roll, please.

Alder McGuire.

Here.

Alder True Hart?

Here.

Alder Frankie?

Here.

And older Vestine.

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All right.

Everyone is present.

Uh any correction of the minutes on April 27th, 2026.

Doesn't look like it.

Those will stand as presented.

On to see business.

Uh number one.

Discussion on possible recommendation on I can't read all of that.

I'm having troubles with the app again.

Uh to common counsel on cities animal noise ordinance.

So this is something that I actually asked that be put on my on the agenda at some point for just some talking per points.

Um our current code is 9-2-11, and it says um no person shall own, keep, harbor, or have custody of an animal that barks, whines, howls, or makes sounds common to its species in a excessive, continuous, or untimely fashion.

So recently I had a case where the question of is whether it's excessive and continuous.

Um I had a we had um I think kind of probably an overly sensitive neighbor.

Um called the police.

This is like the twelfth time in four years that they they would they called the police on them.

But the dog was hurting, was heard on a ring camera from the neighbor for three minutes barking, three straight minutes.

Then there was a break for 18 minutes, another three minutes of barking, and then the the they called up police and officer came and the officer sat, I think sat in his car and listened, and the dog barked for six straight minutes or eight straight minutes or something like that.

So the question is, is that continuous?

Um I started looking at the statutes of others communities, and none of them have the same language of the excessive continuous or untimely.

Most of them still have kind of a grace gray, grayish level of um whether it's annoying to neighbors, um, or un you know disrupts the uh the the uh unreasonably disturbing to other people in the neighborhood.

So I don't know if it even resolved this situation because the neighbors don't like each other and stuff, but I didn't know if there was if it was I have a trouble bringing a citation or trying to defend a citation by clearing convincing evidence when it is three all these breaks and time is that continuous?

Is it excessive?

Um there's like you said, there's other like degleris has where you have to have two written complaints before it kicks in.

Um I I don't know if you know does one neighbor annoy isn't that annoying because one one neighbor could be overly sensitive.

If it's five neighbors, I mean I don't know what if anybody has any thoughts.

Um we can keep it the same and just let the judge decide you know if is it excessive continuous?

I just didn't I was looking for some feedback on what if there's any anything from the committee.

I mean I wouldn't have a problem with us updating it, but I don't think any of these statutes are quantitative.

Looking at all the other all the other towns, yeah.

Yeah, I mean they all all the other towns, you know, um have very difficult like gray areas as you were saying and what's excessive to one person may not be to another, and it may be one day.

What's excessive?

Is that mean like two weeks?

Does it mean every day?

Does or can they call somebody because their dog barked one day?

So I mean you can always always add in a time frame too if you wanted to do that.

None of the other communities had it, but doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

Personally, to me, it would be habitually excessive.

Like one time of a dog barking excessively for 12 minutes or whatever.

And I also think the timing of it matters too.

There is one of the I don't know which one, but talks about that there's that they take in the considerative time.

If a dog is barking at 5 a.m.

for 15 minutes, that might be disruptive.

Or 10 o'clock or something when some people are sleeping, but if the dog's barking at two o'clock in the afternoon, I don't know.

Then you've got the person who works third shift that would find it very problematic.

True.

And I didn't want to spend hours on something that was gonna not lead to a conviction.

I mean, do you think any of these other statutes would have encouraged you to bring it forward?

No, I think in the what the lady wanted the dog owner wanted was a time a time.