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I'm here.

First meeting, uh unless there are any questions or concerns, I'd be looking for a motion to approve those, please.

So moved.

Second.

Thanks, folks.

Uh any discussion?

Any public comment?

Uh can we do a uh roll call vote, please?

Can do we need to do that today?

Can we just say an I or an A today with just the three of us?

Um, we should do a roll call vote.

Okay.

Carol is suggesting uh she will only be happy if we can do a roll call vote.

So let's go ahead with that, please.

You mean Patrick Aldinger?

Yes, Justin Chang?

Yes, Carol Trabajian.

Yes.

That uh motion passes.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh that takes us to general public comments.

This is for uh any member of the public to speak uh on any issue relating to the measure PNS oversight committee that is not on today's agenda.

Do we have any such public comment?

All right, seeing none, we'll move on to our uh next agenda item review unaudited expenditures from July 1st, 2024 through June 15th, 2025.

Do we uh who do we have uh doing that for us today?

Hi, I'm Wendy Davies from the finance department.

Thank you.

Um for the unaudited July through June 15 revenues of 9.1 million and interest of 589,000, bringing a total for the year of 9.7 million expenditures of 800 8,560,000 with a um reven total revenues of 1.165 million, and we will also be um accruing back any FY24 expenses through July and August will also be added into FY24 when the books are done.

So that's not complete yet.

No.

Okay, um, if we look below at the year over year this year, we have our 9.7 million compared to FY24, there's a net change of 49,000, and with expenses of 8.5 million, their net change between last year is the three over a little over 3 million, which that too would be the accrual and expenses that are going to happen yet in 2024.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you very much.

Um and on that, let's see.

I think this is where we want to take a look at the uh itemized description of work done, payments made rather.

And uh uh start with uh members of the committee, any questions on any of the uh the itemized expenditures.

If I could start, I have a just on the note on the first page.

Um ADA curb ramps for conference center contract.

What are these what are these notes meaning?

Is this stuff that is included or should not be included?

Because ADA curb ramps for the conference center contract should be the conference center and not measure S, should it not, as well as we have the we've had the tunnel discussion before, right?

Um and the pump station, pump station, I think is okay.

I think because of storm drains.

Yeah, and again the uh but specifically I'm I'm interested in the ADA curb ramps for the conference center and and the tunnel maintenance and repair.

Again, we've had those questions before about the tunnel.

Yeah, and I'm uh you and I think where we landed on the tunnel is that there would be you know maintenance or repairs or capital expenditures of the tunnel itself versus the street going through the tunnel.

And so we would uh assume in this case that these are uh expenditures on the street going through the tunnel.

Is that correct?

There's been the tunnels, true?

I don't, and I yeah, I don't know if I saw any in the uh No, I didn't.

That's why I'm masking that the note, yeah, the notes, and and again, specifically like the conference center.

The conference center is not a a uh Monterey street.

Right.

So these uh these resos should probably be attached next time just because I know they keep reoccurring.

There shouldn't have been any expenditures this last period uh for the tunnel, uh possibly the conference center.

There's truncated domes, the tactile domes around the turnaround area, and so those were repaired recently, but I think these results are referring to an earlier uh item of work.

But it at the conference center, I shouldn't that should actually we should not repairs with the conference center come from CCFD and not from PNS.

So I think the turnaround area, I that's a city of Monterey right-of-way.

I believe so.

I'm I'm going off memory, but those truncated domes for people, you know, load and unload, they started to get loose and wobble.

Yeah, and so we had to repair them to secure them and fasten them down.

So that was a recent item of work.

I suspect these resos are pointing further back.

Okay.

They probably should be included as an attachment in the next report because they keep it.

Yeah, if we can see, yeah.

If we can get it as an attachment, but it it so a right of way is then considered a city street.

I know you own it.

Yes.

Okay.

So a right-of-way is an essentially an easement for the free movement of people and vehicles.

Okay, so our right-of-way lines and parcel boundaries aren't always crystal clear in the city, but that is uh city property essentially.

But and I and again, I don't know the answer to the question, but when that when the conference center was renovated and that driveway, whatever you want to go, the right-of-way area was renoed.

City did spend I think a million dollars on doing that reno, and I think the rest of it came out of CCFD.

Um, but I think that was the only.

If I'm not mistaken, there was the city did spend some money on like a million, I think a million dollars on that at the time.

It it precedes my time with the city.

I I could probably do some research and get some numbers to you, but um sorry, CFD.

A conference center funding district.

Oh CCFD.

Yeah.

Uh uh I'd have to do some research.

I don't know off the top of my head.

We know something about it.

It's a hospitality thing.

The tunnel, we haven't had any work in the tunnel uh with measure PS funds recently.

I know I think this note is just a carryover from an earlier report.

Looks like but did I have that right that that there is a a difference, a uh delineation between the tunnel itself and the street going through the tunnel as far as measure PNS funds.

I'd have to do some research.

Okay.

Um because that yeah, that was the discussion that we have had historically, and that's how that's the outcome I remember.

And so yeah, if we can get confirmation on that, that would be helpful just to be sure.

Okay, all right.

Uh Justin, anything?

Of course.

So I, you know, maybe we've talked about this before.

I just a couple things here, and it's it's um uh a sort of a generalized comment on uh some of the expenditures under storm drains.

Uh we have marina parking lot, you know.

My my pet peeve marina parking lot, but this is the storm drain portion of that, and so that seems fine and consistent.

Um I see there's there's money spent on V Esperanza storm.

Um can we get an update on that project?

Uh it just out of curiosity.

Sure.

What's happening on via Esperanza?

We've been stuck in permitting land.

Uh so the water board and Army Corps both taken jurisdiction of that project.

We submitted a pre-filing application a few months ago, and we're essentially told no, no chance that we're gonna approve something like this, go back to the drawing board, try again.

Uh, when asked what we should be doing differently, they essentially said, well, we're not engineers, you go figure it out.

So um we're redesigned, we've redesigned our concept.

We think we have something that might be a little bit more palatable to the water board.

Uh we just filed for another pre-file application.

Hopefully, we'll have a path forward with this design concept, but we've been stuck trying to uh obtain permits just to do the repair work.

Okay.

So essentially where we are.

Stay tuned.

So they're not engineers yet, they can say no.

Well, they don't know.

But they do know.

My favorite response from permitting agencies is no.

We won't tell you how to do it, but we'll tell you we're not going to do it yet.

You're not allowed, however, we have no idea what to do.

Exactly.

Excellent.

Okay.

And and uh uh I wanna, I'm sorry, I need to go back to the marina parking lot because it there was also uh an expenditure under pavement uh that it lists marina parking lot improvement.

I'm assuming is the abbreviation there.

Um, and and again, I uh I want to make sure that we're not spending money on the parking lot itself that uh there's that.

There's that that uh transference there that I guess we're calling a city street that runs between the parking lot and uh the brewery, and uh you know, I think we've acknowledged that you know we we're we accept that, but uh this says parking lot improvement.

So I just have to check is that the parking lot or the street?

Sure.

So the overall project name was Marina Parking Lot Project, so that included portions of street and public right of way.

So that titles for the comprehensive project, uh, but there were eligible um expenditures on city streets and city right away.

Okay, all right.

And uh I think I think finally here, again, this is my generalized comment there.

And and maybe we've talked about this before.

We have citywide road rehab, citywide road surface, um, measure S curb ramp with with no locations, and so um and and I I asked the committee too uh for feedback on this uh whether we are asking for a little bit more specification, uh a location on some of that stuff instead of just saying it happened somewhere, we spent money on roads somewhere.

Uh sure.

So unfortunately, that's just how the city citywide projects are titled uh in our naming system.

So you do have to cross-reference it with this sheet.

Okay, uh the full list of citywide projects, and that has all the different street segments in there.

So unfortunately, you do kind of have to do a little matching.

Okay, this expenditure occurred on um uh RSR project phase four, and then you'd have to go to here and okay, all right.

Well, at least there's a okay, there's a path.

Very good.

Uh under um ADA, there was citywide signalized enter.

This is uh uh from May 8th ASG builders.

Um, and I'm just not that was uh 273,000.

I'm just uh not sure what that means.

Sure.

What is that?

That's uh citywide ADA intersection improvement.

Okay.

Uh those two intersections that ASG is working on are Franklin, so Franklin at Washington and Franklin at going off memory.

What's the adjacent intersection?

Tyler, thank you.

Okay.

Okay, that's all I had.

Anything else from the committee?

Uh and let's see, any uh public comment on this agenda item.

Okay, seeing none uh uh for a motion to uh accept the uh where am I here?

The review of the unaudited expenditures from July 1st, 2024 through June 15th, 2025, please.

So moved.

Second, motion to second any discussion.

Roll call vote, please.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes, Justin Chang.

Yes, Carol Trabajian, yes.

That motion passes unanimously.

Thank you.

Uh item three review unaudited periodic report from July 1st, 24 through June 15th, 2025.

Back to when I'm I'll cover it in my question.

So the expenditures and revenues for the 9.1 million tax revenues, I've already thousands.

I'm sorry.

So this would also show our review.

Revenues and expenses.

Showing we have 49,000, $7983 revenues.

And 2024, we had 11.6 million dollars in expenses.

And so far this year we've had the five million expenses.

Okay.

Thank you.

And before I ask for a motion on this one, you know, on this report, I just want to make note of uh one of the statements on the second page, uh uh just below the table.

Uh committee has determined that to date the city has managed PNS projects and funds in compliance with the measures approved by the voters.

So in this report, we're acknowledging that as well.

And uh unless there are any questions or comments, uh looking for a motion on this one, so moved.

Second.

Alright, and motion a second.

Uh any discussion.

Public comment.

Uh roll call vote, please.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes.

Justin Chang.

Yes.

Carol Trabajian.

Yes.

Passes unanimously.

Thank you.

Uh item four, review of the street rehabilitation and reconstruction reports for 2025.

Is that back to you, Wendy?

Or that'll be me, Max Reese, Senior Engineer.

Um, the payment condition you've received, um, the database put out for last maintenance treatment, um, current PCIs, as well as upcoming measure P and um paving projects.

Um, general update, uh, we completed or substantially completed the um citywide road resurfacing project that included David, Garden, Ocean, Forest Ridge, amongst other streets.

Um, that kicked our PCI back up to an 81 for the network.

Um, that project has a couple punch list items that should be completed this week, and then that'll be completed.

Um, so that is all reflected in the database table.

Um, another active project is the road rehab phase five.

That's the work on Hawthorne.

Uh, we had a utility delay with Calium, but that one got back in motion.

The curb ramp was completed.

Uh yes.

And that yes, that was uh try try try again with the streets are open, streets are closed, streets are open, streets are closed.

Yeah, there were also two main water main breaks in that area during that project.

So it's just kind of uh a scene over there.

Um, but the concrete works completed.

Um, they're working to schedule their subcontractor to come in complete the paving.

Um, optimistic that'll be done before car week or after car week anytime, but during car week um come in and resurface that road and complete that project.

Um as um upcoming projects.

Um we have the Wave Street ADA and road rehab.

Um that's basically it's from Irving down to the retro crossing.

Uh we have the North Fremont at City Limit.

You'll notice out by seaside that they had a pavement project come in and make it nice and pretty and stopped right at city limit line.

Ours is is it needs some rehabilitation?

That's a full depth reclamation.

That's a pretty heavy treatment.

Um, but that yeah, that's coming up.

Um we're gonna bid that scheduled yet.

Uh we're gonna bid that soon.

So it'd be probably three months out or so.

So that's an interesting the way it looks.

It's just on this slide and on this side of the light.

It's like would have been a good opportunity for partnership and communication.

Uh, so yeah, uh, we're trailing them on that one, but we'll we're gonna get out there this year.

And just in a quick question, this is speaking partnership.

The David, David, was that Monterey and PG?

Yes.

So David, yeah, we're we stop um just a little bit above the visadero.

Um and yeah, the timing worked out really well.

Well, there we we did our resurfacing project.

They're gonna come down to city limit with that with their uh they have road rehabilitation.

They're doing some sewer work and stuff like that too.

So uh, that one was that was interesting that I thought usually that doesn't happen either, but it's yeah, no.

So that one worked out well, yeah.

Um, and then another project in the queue um that that'll be bid in the next couple months is the um casts in El Dorado um ADA and road rehab.

Then for our next meeting, we're hoping we'll have um forecasted like citywide resurfacing streets selected again.

Um so any questions on the database or active or upcoming projects.

I I don't know whether it's appropriate at this time.

Aguajito.

What part of Aguajito is the city of Monterey?

Because it when if it goes back up all the way around to the freeway, that's not city of Monterey.

Is it that's Carmel?

Uh I'd have to look at the maps.

That's something I don't know off the top of my head.

Yes, it's there's certain segments of it that are ours and not ours.

Um, including like the caltrans right away, like that intersection isn't partially ours.

Um it's bad.

Yeah, we have a couple like county roads.

What's the other one we've been talking with the county about?

Mulholland.

Um is Mulholland City of Monterey or County?

Both.

Because that's awful.

I and I only say unclear on like all our records don't perfectly match their records.

Uh like our GIS and theirs aren't are in sync.

Um, but yeah, that's something we can uh put together some maps to exhibit.

I I'd like it because in part of my when I now have to quickly as quickly as I can get back to Ryan Ranch from the Valley at 3 30, 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

I'm cutting through Aguajito and it's horrifying up there.

And Mulholland is too, going, I mean it it it'll rattle the teeth out of your head, and even I think down by where Mul Holland is on Aguajito, that is City of Monterey, and it's just bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Both the city and the county maintain GIS databases that are publicly available.

So if you don't want to wait till the next meeting, you can hop on our website or the county's website, and there's a a city boundary layer that can be uploaded so you can see exactly where this uh the boundary is supposed to be.

Okay, thank you.

Because there is up when you come down, there is work being done by somebody because it says there's a detour sign, and some as you're coming down Aguajito, and I can't remember where what the street is, but there is a detour sign.

So somebody's working on something up there.

Yeah, we we don't know exactly who we got to call someone complaining to us about it, but it wasn't it's not city work.

We don't know if it's a utility or uh the county.

Well, I never have gone through there where it looks like any work is being done, so maybe they just left the signs up from something, not ours.

Okay, but that could be an opportunity.

I know we have other priorities right in the city, you know, but it is nasty up there.

And one of the problems is the cost efficient.

So we have our street saver database, so we run budget scenarios that has a cost efficiency weighting.

And when a street's so far gone, it says we're better off spending money um trying to catch streets before they're that bad.

So it deferes a lot.

So once they're that bad, they say rehab before rebuild, right?

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Okay.

Okay, all right, thanks.

Uh so the um PCI of 81, and that's as of what day last week.

Okay, great.

Yeah, and uh I was gonna ask if you concurred with that number, and I I think we got your.

Well, there was a because there was if you see the one there is where it says one percent at Aguajito and Holland.

And I'm like, I absolutely agree with that.

Yeah, but I said I'm lucky I have shocks left in my car anymore that going through there, it's just awful.

Justin, do you have anything?

I'd say the streets look good right now.

Right.

Thanks.

Uh at that uh juncture, then I would be looking for a motion to accept the the uh report as presented.

So moved.

Second.

Uh motion and second, any discussion, public comment.

Yeah.

Tony Caldy, resident of the city of Monterey.

I don't have the meeting packet in front of me, so I apologize, but I think on that uh mixed jurisdiction list, if we could get Jocelyn Canyon in there, that would be fantastic.

The potholes have gotten horrible.

And where you're coming around the blind curve coming from Mark Thomas onto Jocelyn Canyon, there's a big pothole that you hit and kind of I could just see a car coming around that corner getting jostled and hitting head on.

So I think that there is a serious safety concern, tip to tip.

So from Mark Thomas all the way to 68, if we could get that looked at, I think the residents of that area would really appreciate it.

Yeah, that and then speed bumps to add to that too, right?

We have two speed humps in there and they're pretty good.

Um, but it's really the potholes that have gotten bad.

And there's also lines where it looks like maybe there, and I'm no engineer, but perhaps there's an underground water or there is a pipe or something because it's a straight line running across the street that has become a dip.

But it's just gotten really bad over the last two years.

And I see that um the PCI at uh, yeah, Sylvan uh and Mark Thomas is 30, and so uh it's it's down there.

Not not the worst one in the city.

Right.

But it's down there.

And do we have any uh uh predictions on that at all?

That's something we'll have to take a closer look at.

Um yeah, so it is Jocelyn Canyon specifically.

Yep.

And I know it's mixed and it's confusing, but it's becoming a dangerous situation from from one end to the other.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

I volunteered drive through there too, and yes, I agree.

And Deer Flats is stuff up in there as well.

Thanks.

Uh thank you very much.

Any um online public comment?

All right, uh roll call vote, please.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes.

Justin Chang?

Yes, Carol Trebajan.

Yes.

Passes unanimously, thank you.

Uh, item five sales tax updates for quarters three and four.

Is that back to you, Wendy?

All right, thank you.

Uh quarter three is July through September of 2024.

Um the uh sales tax is 4.2 below the third sales period in 2023.

Um we did have some increases in casual dining and hotel and motel and fine dining, but then some decreases in family apparel and um service stations for fuel charges, and then if we look at quarter four October through December of 2024.

Um, there was 9.1% above the four sales period in 2023.

Um the conference center had uh increase in conferences in the past year.

Um we also had hotels and were up nine percent in this quarter, and leisure and entertainment was at 10%, and fine dining was up 15%.

Um Measure G was boasted by local purchases and more online merchandise and increase in new motor vehicles.

And they're also um positive change in hotels, um, leisure and entertainment, electronics purchases, and quick service restaurants.

Okay.

Carol, do you have any comments?

But I think it's important when you have two things, which is again why the group business is important to the city, that you'll see that not only you've got the tax revenue up at the conference center with the rentals and food and beverage in the conference center, but fine dining when you have conferences here that are being hosted like that last week.

They have wonderful pistachios that bought out the sardine factory one night.

That's a nice chunk of sales tax for the city.

So again, I don't want to push on that, but I think that's why group business is so important to us in the city.

Any other questions or comments?

Uh Justin?

Just a brief question on the measure S revenue that comes in.

Um are we showing quarter over quarter of the increase of 0.2%, for example, on the Q4?

Does that mean it's a Q over Q or is that a year over year?

I assume so, but I just want to double check.

Sure.

Okay.

No problem.

Okay.

Uh unless there's any other questions or comments.

Are you looking for a motion to accept uh the sales tax updates for quarters three and four?

So not a second.

Uh any discussion?

Public comment.

Uh roll call vote, please.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes.

Justin Chang?

Yes.

Carol Trabajan.

Yes.

Passes unanimously.

Thank you very much.

Uh that it completes the itemized uh agenda for today.

Uh I know we have uh some staff comments, uh possible informational reports at this time, please.

At this time, I would like to announce that Pyam Ostovar stepped down from the committee via email on the 26th of April 2025.

All right.

Uh questions, comments, anything?

Any other uh reports or staff comments.

Oh, I do actually have a comment if I could.

Well, that we're um committee member comments.

Okay, thank you.

Sorry.

No, I did, and I don't I mentioned it to city council at a city council meeting, and I think I mentioned it to you that I have that it is important that we look toward renewing uh or doing something for uh the replacement of measure S, which you'd have to go on the ballot next year.

I have offered, and the mayor came to me and said he wanted to talk more about it.

I've tried to get in touch with him, and I have not been in successful, but to take them, if you think it would help on a tour, to see some of this segments that they need to see, and the reason why it needs to be renewed as it is.

Um I said I was that someone had said to me that the streets we know are like the Golden Gate Bridge.

You know, you finish you finish it, and now you got to start over again.

Um, and I go back to, and it's not bad, but my street was slurry sealed in the beginning in 2015.

Lifespan of slurry seal has passed and is not falling apart, but it needs to be taken care of.

So I don't know.

They were thinking, I know one of the councilman persons said, well, maybe we're thinking we could give a portion of it and then we'll use some of it for something else.

And I'm like, I think it all needs to go to whatever measure it becomes, and it needs to be, you know, but I think it's important if we can do it and become we can be brown act compliant too, as long as we invite the public to come on the tour.

And I said I would I'm happy to provide a vehicle or vehicles to do that.

Um, but I think they need to see some of what's what is going on on Jocelyn Canyon on Aguajito on some of this and and I mean there are there are plenty of street segments that still need, as you know, that need work.

So I don't know.

I we we can maybe Rick and I can continue to try.

I'd like to, if you're up for that, I'd like to to do that to show them why we need to um be proactive and look at at renewing something.

Yeah, and I'm just add to that.

You know, it was originally estimated um through the work of the uh ad hoc committee and the city staff that uh the the uh measure key uh that it would require about 10 years to raise the uh PCI from 54 to 80, and we we just got a report that we're at 81.

So, you know, uh from that perspective, we did accomplish that goal.

We're uh right at the 10 year mark.

Uh so that was pretty accurate.

However, uh we, you know, we we to Carol's point and to Monique's point that there are still uh city streets that uh uh are in serious disrepair uh along with uh the maintenance required uh to prevent the the uh treatments that we've done from deteriorating uh beyond their useful life as well.

So um, you know, you're you're certainly your point is well well taken.

And we get, you know, if if we look at it not till after car week, but um if we can look at something with them, because again, it's gonna have to be we're gonna have to get for the next measure, a group together decide on what we want to do.

And it would have to be it has to be on the ballot by or the measure would have to be done by August.

August, first week in August, isn't it?

And something like that.

26 to go on the ballot.

But again, that's coming up in our business, that's coming up tomorrow.

So if we wait and drag our feet, I just and I I think it needs to be somewhere we need to take them on the worst street segments to show them that it's like, oh, you lost a tooth there because we kind of get rattled out of your head, um, so that we can let them know because I think some of the other projects, as we know, there are many projects in the city that that need to be police department and the fire stations is up.

There are a lot.

Warf two.

Um, but again, I've said, and I said this to the mayor, that taking a couple million dollars off of this and whatever the new measure would be, and putting that into something that requires hundreds of millions of dollars is like spinning in the ocean.

So you know it we they I agree that we need to do something there, but I don't think that taking away from what we because we haven't been able to finish it, taking away from what we've got now is not going to help us get where we need to be.

So, all right, maybe yeah, maybe you and I can try to set that up and certainly any any you know staff that would like to be part of that would be uh wonderful.

I said, Yeah, my volunteering job, I get to see some bad street segments now.

All right, any other uh committee member comments, Justin?

Just a brief comment in a similar vein.

I want to thank Monique and also members of the public uh for coming forth and letting us know about some of the streets that are less traversed.

Um we see a lot of downtown, we see a lot of Canary Row, but we don't necessarily see those back roads.

So thank you very much.

Yeah, we all we all drive where we normally drive with uh so uh that's very helpful.

All right.

Uh and uh unless there's anything else, uh we have concluded our business today and we can uh adjourn at 10 36.