Oh no, this is uh October twenty eighth, two thousand in progress.

Of the City of Monterey's planning commission.

And we will start off with a roll call.

Sure.

Vice Chair Latasa?

Here.

Commissioner Bluth.

Here.

It seems Commission Commissioner Brassfield is absent.

Commissioner Dawson.

Here.

And Commissioner Freeman.

Here.

And our Chair Silva is also absent.

And our staff members present.

Our planning manager Levi Hill, Principal Planner Fernando Roveri, Principal Planner Christie Sabdoe, and myself recording Secretary Erica Barrera.

I can go ahead and remind the public how to participate.

Information on participating in this meeting and providing public comment, including remotely by Zoom or telephone.gov board slash agendas.

Okay.

Okay.

Vice Trailatassa?

Yes.

Commissioner Bluet?

Yes.

Commissioner Dawson?

Yes.

And Commissioner Freeman.

Yes.

Okay, those minutes have been approved.

Great.

Thank you.

So next item is general public comments.

If anyone in the audience or online would like to address the commission on an item not on this afternoon's agenda, now's your time.

I'm not showing any attendees online.

Okay.

So we'll moving right along, we'll go to the public hearing.

We have one item on this afternoon's agenda, which is uh 201 Hawthorne Street Architectural Review Permit Application, ARP 25-0111 for an expansion of an existing non-conforming single-family residence.

Applicant Thane Wilson, owner Christie Hirch.

Um, and we will start off with a staff report.

Please hello, Chair and Planning Commission.

My name is Fernando Roveri, Principal Planner for the City of Monterey, and I will present to you the project at hand, 201 Hawthorne Street, an expansion of a non-conforming single-family dwelling.

Staff's recommendation is that the planning commission adopt the resolution attached in your staff report, approving the expansion of the non-conforming single-family dwelling.

This is an aerial view of 201 Hawthorne Street at the corner of Hawthorne and Resight Avenue.

There is an existing single-family dwelling.

The lot is considered a substandard corner lot because it is less than 5,000 square feet.

The zoning is R35, and the general plan land use designation is medium density residential.

As you can see, the existing single-family dwelling is closer than average than what we normally see to the corner side, um, which is reside avenue.

This shows the existing condition.

The part of the dwelling that would is uh proposed to be expanded is shown here.

And this is again a view from Reside Avenue.

So the project proposes a kitchen expansion into the rear and and corner side setbacks.

This shows that the existing single family dwelling is about six feet five inches to the corner side property line and about 14 feet five inches to the rear property line.

And the expansion would encroach both into the corner side and rear setbacks.

The expansion would be approximately 16.77 square feet.

And this is a proposed floor plan.

The orientation changed, but again, uh the corner site on this view would be to the right, and the rear would be at the bottom.

And in yellow is the proposed um floor area addition that would square off the kitchen.

So the planning commission, there's a section of our non-conforming code that allows the planning commission to approve an expansion of a non-conforming residential structure.

So generally, no structure shall be moved, altered, or enlarged unless required by law, or unless the moving alteration or enlargement will result in the elimination of the nonconformity.

However, the planning commission may allow a structure, uh housing and non-conforming residential use in an R district to be altered and enlarged by adding not more than 10% of the existing habitable floor area, provided that the number of dwelling units is not increased.

So this is a special um power of the planning commission.

So this part of the non-conforming section of the code does not have any required specific findings that the planning commission must make, but these are findings that staff uh is proposing that the planning commission use.

So this first finding is that the use is conforming and that it is an allowed single family residential use, and the expansion would add floor area to the existing kitchen.

So it wouldn't be um expanding a non-conforming use because the use is already conforming.

The expansion would not add more than 10% of the existing habitable floor area, and does not propose an increase in dwelling units.

The expansion would make for a consistent wall plane with the rest of the house, achieving a more cohesive building facade along Resight Avenue.

And with that, staff recommends that the planning commission approve the expansion of the non-conforming dwelling.

Um that concludes staff's presentation.

And the applicant is here, and he has a uh an image of what the expansion would look like, showing that consistent wall plane on along Resight Avenue.

Thanks, Fernanda.

Uh, any questions of staff?

Mike question.

Um in my infinite experience of with building houses.

Um I always thought that if you have a non-conforming um situation that you can't add to it unless you take take the non-conforming away.

It I guess that's not true.

So that that section that I read um and for the record three or four times, and I it's it's just so I think I figured you'd be the best one to tell you to tell me how it can go.

Oh, um so usually, yes, uh, you cannot uh expand the nonconformity, but this section of the code specifically allows the planning commission to approve expansion of a nonconformity as long as you're you're not expanding it more than 10% of the existing floor area.

Okay, thank you.

And the number of dwelling units isn't increase, right?

Right.

Yes, right.

Okay, any other questions of staff?

So the I have a question, Fernando.

The um they are expanding the residence into part of the garage.

So there is an increase of habitable area into the existing garage.

Was that expansion made part of the calculation?

They are not that that wouldn't be new building area.

It's already there is already building area in that part.

Right.

So and they would be maintaining the required one off-street parking covered space.

Yes.

Well, uh, if you could go back to the uh the uh slide that showed the actual um uh ordinance language that note in the corner.

Yes, yeah.

Well, that's that's what's being added, but they're also expanding habitable space into the garage.

I don't mean to be a stickler, but uh you know it's um so the uh it does say the um uh 10% of existing habitable floor area.

That's the critical phrase there, which is not uh not the let.

And does that so I'm just asking if that because obviously that little corner of the kitchen is going to be way less than 10%, but was that part of the garage, you know, that's being expanded by habitable area?

Was that included in the calculation?

Or should it?

Maybe it's exempt from that for some reason.

I don't believe it is included in the calculation because we're going off the existing habitable area caveat in that provision.

Nonetheless, if it were to be included, that would actually increase the amount of floor area they'd be allowed to expand because it would make for a larger existing habitable area that you'd be taking that 10% from.

So it would be compliant nonetheless.

Oh, okay.

So even if you included the part that's being expanded into the garage, it would just increase the amount they're able to expand into the non-conforming area.

Okay.

Uh so if somebody did that calculation to correct off the more restrictive amount, okay, which would be the existing habitable area.

Right.

So we would took the 10% off of that to be more conservative.

That makes sense, yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Okay.

Um any other questions?

Okay, great.

Um would the applicant uh like to come forward and make a presentation.

Good afternoon.

Thanks for coming in.

Christy.

I I don't need the show of those pictures.

Yeah, the podium is usually fine, but wherever you want to sit.

I am to this.

I did work for the city for a few years and didn't come up here to see you people.

Um the thing that I did calculate for your interest is it's about 4.2% increase is what it comes to.

And it would be the um corner.

Can you that's what it looks like today that you're looking at?

And underneath that picture, Fernando, if you could show what's underneath.

That's what it's going to look like.

So the roof line would be all consistent with the main roof, and it'll be boxed off and it'd be a little prettier.

It's still on the driveway side.

The part uh that we're doing is that 4.2% for that one corner is really what we're looking for.

And move the trash cans off the street.

Moving the trash cans in the utility.

That's going to be put into a doghouse they're going to build for us.

And um the utility box.

I'm going to request a dog house for that and a water meter also that's on that side.

Okay.

But that's that's the way that the designer we generated that picture for you guys to take a look at.

So what we hope that that's what you needed to see.

Great.

Uh any questions of the applicant.

Okay.

Uh, thank you very much.

Okay, sir.

Okay.

Uh Erica, is there anybody online who would like to?

Because they're only the applicants or the only ones in the chambers.

There are no attendees online.

Okay.

So seeing that, we'll bring it back to the commission for a motion or discussion.

Well, interesting.

Would sometimes would this go to the zoning uh commission?

It's interesting that we come to the planning commission.

First, I read it, I thought, oh, this is gonna go to the ARC.

So for the design component, uh, so the an architectural review permit is required for the exterior change or iteration.

However, as uh as Fernanda noted earlier in her her presentation, it's uh it's very specific in the zoning code as to who can approve uh this specific expansion, and it's limited to the planning commission.

Okay.

Seems very straightforward to me.

Something was a mistake to be done.

Okay, you can hear a motion.

Well permit allocation.

ARP 25 line 111 for expansion.

Um second, okay.

We have a motion and a second.

Um so I guess we'll do a roll call.

Sure.

Vice Chair Latassa.

Yes.

Commissioner Blut?

Yes.

Commissioner Dawson?

Yes.

And Commissioner Freeman.

Yes.

Okay, that motion is approved.

The decision is appealable to the city council within 10 days.

We have applications online or in our planning office.

Okay, you're approved.

Thanks for coming in.

When a sweeping okay, so next item is um see the uh informational reports, uh, I guess planning office update.

Sure.

Thank you.

And uh as noted in the report, um, we did have uh just a recap from the most recent city council meeting.

We did take forward the uh expansion of the local density bonus ordinance that this commission saw a few weeks ago, went forward and was approved for first reading at uh last week's city council meeting.

So that'll be going forward to a second reading before becoming effective 30 days after that.

And then also noted in the report or the items that are tentatively scheduled for the November 25th planning commission meeting.

Uh as you may know, we will not be having our uh November 11th planning commission meeting.

So our next meeting will be on November 25th.

As a reminder, that is the week of Thanksgiving.

So for any reason you're unable to attend, please let us know at your earliest uh possible convenience.

That's for the Tuesday.

It's Tuesday, yes, sir.

Uh, but we do have a few items that are tentatively scheduled for that meeting.

Uh uh there is a uh street abandonment project on Cedar Street, uh project on at 2023 North Fremont uh Street, which is a use permit.

And then also uh it's looking like that is also gonna be the meeting that we'll be bringing forward uh the action that uh will be the dissolving of our ARC.

Um so that will be um coming forward on that meeting as well.

So Mike's gonna retire.

No, Mike's not allowed to retire.

Actually, I I filed that with the city clerk's office.

We have them for life.

uh project on at 2023 north fremont uh street which is a use permit and then also uh it's looking like that is also going to be the meeting that we'll be bringing forward uh the action that uh will be the dissolving of our ARC um so that will be um coming forward on that meeting as well so Mike's gonna retire no Mike's not allowed to retire actually uh I filed that with the city clerk's office we have them for life exactly but I think uh other than that uh if anything changes we'll certainly let you know okay I had something to say uh Bob brought it up last time and I really think that we need to keep on track on this and that was a specific plan for the garden road area and you mentioned that not until the work plan for the staff is developed can that be brought forward and I really want to keep you to keep track of when the deadline is for officially asking for a specific plan committee or plan or whatever you have to do.

We don't want to lose sight of that because I think that is our major area of new residential development and with the problems that have come up so far be nice to have something to rely back on you know when these people get into these discussions about how close to the airplane is I put the nursery school right I didn't talk to Tyler about that who's fully supportive so I'm not sure where we next whether it has to be I asked if I should come before city council and make a public comment but that was okay I'm not sure where we can next given that yeah I think that's as far as it goes at this point the work program is established yearly with uh at city council meeting in conjunction with city manager's office and the various department heads so I think like I said it typically tracks with the fiscal year.

So if it's already been brought up to the mayor then I would assume uh when those conversations are happening um you know in in May June and July of uh this next year that that would be uh something that maybe he's suggesting or uh pushing forward and to be a part of the work program oh sorry please I'm saying mention I'm just curious did the day care um appeal they did that's actually going forward to the city council on november fourth so if you're interested tune in okay right I was I was able to take uh take a tour of the of the new airport um airport uh what uh um uh what do they call it the construction site at the for the terminal there's a tremendous amount of concrete off there is a lot of steel and concrete out it's just it's it goes forever yeah but uh yeah it was it I I used to go to all the uh the airport board meetings and uh I we were we were we were studying that geez two three years ago yeah now now I'm seeing I'm seeing action this so that's that's real positive.

Yeah it is it's really exciting to see the the progress they're making out there and the real negative thing is that the Mercedes dealer is leaving Monterey going to Monday Marina I guess.

So we haven't received anything official on that I have heard rumors of that as well but uh nothing official to this point that we've heard it's just uh it's gonna be a big hit on the budget um this the city doesn't own any of that though it's private which probably the with the Mercedes yeah uh correct that's privately held never know you never know I have a question uh the uh what's the status of the um LCP oh great question um so we're actually uh wrapping up our review uh Christy Sabdo has been working uh tirelessly on that and keeping me and Kim on track uh as well as our consultant team um so we're actually uh working on wrapping up our draft chapters for chapters uh uh one two and three and then we'll be uh preparing those to be submitted for a first round of review to the Coastal Commission but we're actually planning on bringing those forward to this group as well uh kind of concurrently to give this group an opportunity to provide feedback and uh give you guys an update probably gonna bring it by like chapter by chapter so as not to overwhelm you with a uh lengthy document all and all at once but um that way if you have any questions or want to get into any of the details or or anything in the specific chapters we'll have the time and uh ability to kind of dive into those those nuances but yeah making uh significant progress and looking to get uh our initial submittals into the coastal commission near the end of this year well great this this year being uh days away next year well 2025 we're hoping in this calendar year to have our draft some draft chapters in front of the coastal commission staff and get our initial review great okay um any other questions nope well good work uh thank you very much for okay the meeting is adjourned is this a new record uh my no i don't think so we've had