Meeting to order.

Uh meeting of the uh measure PNS Oversight Committee at uh call to order at ten o'clock.

And uh Elizabeth, would you please take a roll call vote?

Or not a vote, uh just a roll call.

Absolutely.

Patrick Aldinger, here Thomas Bruno.

Uh here.

Justin Chung.

Here, Carol Chabajian, absent, and Rick Hoyer.

Thank you very much.

First item on the agenda is a one and only consent agenda item approval of the minutes from October meeting, October twentieth, twenty twenty-five.

Lest there are any questions or feedback on that and be looking for a okay, go ahead, Rick.

So I think I stayed.

But never mind.

Yeah, you were uh I could be here to actually vote on the thing, so I wasn't here to vote.

The uh, yeah, you had to abstain.

I you had to abstain as opposed to to uh uh pushing back on the fact that you're vice chair.

You know what?

I really would.

Thank you, Elizabeth.

I would love that.

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Thank you.

And just out of curiosity, how many folks do we have online?

No one that I can see.

Otherwise, I'd be looking for a motion to approve those, please.

Patrick Aldinger.

And a second.

Thomas Bruneau.

Yes.

Justin Chung.

Yes.

Rick Hoyer.

Thank you.

All right.

This portion of the meeting is reserved for uh the public to comment on any item that is not on today's agenda but is under the jurisdiction of the measure P and S oversight Committee.

Do we have any such public comment in chambers?

Elizabeth, anyone online?

Nobody online.

All right.

Thank you.

Takes us to the main uh agenda this morning.

Uh item number two, review unaudited expenditures from July 1st, 2025 through December 31st, 2025, Rafaela.

Good morning.

Okay, so in your package, we'll start with the sec page two of the measure PNS activity.

So starting with the revenue status.

So this is from July 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025.

We had total revenues received of 7.8 million.

7.7 of that is from sales tax and 124,000.

I'm sorry.

Um sales tax, 314,000 in interest income.

So total 4.4 million received as of December 31st.

Moving on to the expenditures, measure P storm drains for the same time period.

We had 150,183.64.

And um for the vendors and for internal um labor, 31,869 for a total of 182,000, $53.23 for the storm drains for sidewalks, 149,375 for vendors, 4,538,000 for um internal staff, 153,914 total for the period for pavements.

We have 352,301 for vendors.

For a total of 514,526,000 spent for pavements for the ADA, we had 929,234 on our vendors in house 126,636 for a total of 1,055,00869 spent for measure um for the ADA.

The other part I will um that's it for the expenditures.

I will talk about the other the table in front at the next thing.

Oh up yeah, and under the next item you're gonna cover that or yes.

Okay, thank you.

Um so that I you know I'm really sorry about this, but maybe I'm gonna do this uh as long as I continue to see this because I can't remember from meeting to meeting, but if we look under pavement, there are a couple entries too under ADA, um, citywide road surface.

Um the the citywide identifier throws me off when we have you know so many um identified areas that we can look at and and and uh understand.

So when I see citywide, uh it makes me ask what does that mean?

Where is that?

What happened?

That's a fair point.

That's something our admin team's taking a closer look at.

Um we recognize that this should present a little bit more information.

Uh if you have any specific questions on these ones presented, um the citywide road surface, um, was it our big citywide um slurry package that was you know David Avenue and some others uh last year?

Um the Kramer Engineering Citywide that was work on um Hawthorne Street, ADA and uh pavement maintenance.

Um, yes, acknowledged, and that's something we're working to provide a little bit more detail.

Great.

Uh good.

Uh nice nice to hear that.

Thank you, Max.

Uh okay, um any other comments or questions from the committee on item two?

Fund days of their charged, other than their credit and fax, and back.

And then then we's a refund check.

Uh one is the whole what is the whole cycle of that?

Um that's related to a service application for the electrification of Pump Station 11, the storm drain system at Lake Alestero.

We've had a little bit of trouble with PGE on the application.

They closed our first application issued a refund, made us reapply in a new check.

So we're working through the process.

I mean when you reapply it was a thousand bucks less.

Well that's how them that you go.

Yeah we're working through it with them.

Okay.

Yeah.

And just out of curiosity um I I see under uh storm drains there are entries for via esperanza and so I uh because that's just a couple blocks from where I live I just wonder how yeah we uh any any estimate on when actual work is going to start there um no I don't have I don't think we have any updates um I believe a progress plan sets in hand and it's still gonna be a TBD with permitting um so hopefully next quarter we'll have an update thanks all right anything else from the committee on item two no I'll I'll make a motion to find the items on the uh expenditures uh consistent with the bond measure second thank you motion and second any discussion roll call vote please Elizabeth Patrick Aldinger yes Thomas Bruneau yes Justin Chung yes Rick Hoyer yes thank you motion passes unanimously thank you very much and just just one thing for our new member um they just love that we pay lab overhead especially labor overhead but and you know like how big it is yeah we've talked about that once or twice all right item three review unaudited periodic report from July first 2025 through December 31st 2025 Rafaela okay moving into this report um this is where the the charts are kind of duplicated in this report and the first one so um from inception from this um through December 31st the total revenue received from measure p from tax revenues 109 million from interest 2.4 million and 325 for other revenues um for this period through december 31st 4.17 for sales tax 314 for interest for a total of 4.49 million in um total revenues total expenditures we have um for this first period 1820 in storm drains 153 thousand in sidewalks 514 in 520 and 526 in pavement ADA 1 million 55 thousand for total expenditures 1.9 million total revenue over expenses for this period um 2.5 million so total expenses year to date um from an inception of measure pns 89 million seven hundred and eight thousand eight hundred nineteen um year to date fund balance um remains at twenty two million seven hundred and eighty five and our acceptable PCL our PC I'm sorry PCIs at um eighty and on the back our year to year year over year comparison at the same time bless you um for December as of December 31 2024 we had 400 point 4 million eighty eighty one thousand as opposed as compared to this year or 2025, 4.1 million a change of $95 thousand dollars increase, 2% increase in the sales tax, the interest at the same time period from 2024 to 2025, 251 thousand in December 2024, 314,000 December of 25, 63,667 change increase, so 25% increase overall.

We're looking at the spit expenditures from December of 2024 through um compared to December 2025, 2.8 million as of December 2024, December 2024, and 1.9 million spent through December 2025.

Four is a decrease of 976,914.

It's a decrease of 34%.

Any questions?

Got a couple questions.

Go ahead, Ron.

So far in this fiscal year, we're way, way less being spent on pavement and way, way more being spent on ADA.

It looks like we're doing a whole lot of signals.

That's partly why the ADA aspect was different, but why the big drop in pavement, or is it just timing of when it hit?

Yeah, I think we spoke to that last meeting.

I think Andrew, um, yeah, it was a signal-related ADA improvements.

The signals have um pretty high price tags on the million there.

Yes.

Um then I think some of this administratively um might have been like, for example, road rehab five.

I was looking a little closer at it.

Um, and instead of breaking out that had ADA, was ADA titled project, but had a substantial amount of pavement rehabilitation when the purchase order was cut to pay the contractor, it was all tagged to ADA.

Um, so it's something that we're gonna break out, um, ensure we break out moving forward for clean accounting.

But yeah, there's a huge difference, swings from previous years.

Yeah.

Yeah, I had similar questions.

Uh um, and that you know, it kind of explains at least a portion of the pavement.

Um, you know, storm drains uh cut in half sidewalks by a third.

Does that mean does that indicate we're catching up?

Uh and there are fewer uh outstanding projects to be uh dealt with, or or again to Rick's point, is it just uh kind of timing and a cyclical thing?

I think it's more timing and cyclical.

Yeah.

There's no shortage of maintenance work necessary out there, really.

So yeah, we you know, we track that with the pavement uh pretty pretty closely, I think.

But for yeah, storm drains and sidewalks, it's a little more vague, it's like yes.

Okay, any uh any other uh questions or comments from the committee.

I would expect storm drains and sidewalks to be going down because sidewalks is only tree uplift, it's not just everyone in the and you know you we've been doing it for a lot of years now.

The storm drains have a little longer life than the pavement lasting actually.

Good point, good point.

But yeah, that yeah, that and I agree.

Um sidewalks, the trees.

There's been a couple we've had to go to a few times, so the roots will uplift, but you're you're right.

Once we address them, um they should have a decent time frame.

Storm drains are typically a 50 year design pavement, 20 years.

So all right.

Can we get a um motion to uh uh uh approve item two, please?

Or excuse me, item three.

So moved.

You want to do your first hey, all right.

Uh we have a uh a motion and a second.

Any discussion?

Roll call vote, please, Elizabeth.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes, Thomas Brunel, yes, Justin Chung.

Yes, Rick Hoyer.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you, passes unanimously.

Item four, review street rehabilitation and reconstruction reports for 2026.

Is that you, Max?

That's back to me.

All right.

Um, yeah, so you have two attachments.

We have um the payment condition index table or aka the last uh maintenance treatment state, um, as for A and for B is the upcoming projects.

Um, for A are current PCIs, um 80, which puts us in the 91st percentile of similar similar size agencies.

Um, it has all all the street segments, PCIs, and mostly the last maintenance date.

Um there's some that are blank that have been treated.

It's uh database management.

We're trying to catch up with.

It's not a perfect system, but it's it's pretty good.

Um so this should be current as of the work through Hawthorne Street.

Um, yeah.

Uh any questions on that attachment.

Um it it looks like I know, you know, historically we have commented uh fairly regularly, and and Carol's not here this morning, but um on the number of uh areas streets with a uh alarmingly low uh PCI.

Uh you know, I'm looking at Wave Street.

Uh, but it had my point being it looks like uh uh maybe the report has been cleaned up, um updated, and uh I'm I'm seeing uh far fewer of those outliers.

Yeah, yeah, no, if we appreciate you flagging those.

There's some that are warranted where uh the condition, the deterioration, the percentage of its service area, thus the numbers work out where it says zero.

There's still some pavement left, but the condition calculation uh puts it at a really low number.

Um there are a few that yeah, we need to get to there's a segment of Aguajito that's a valid zero, um, like wave streets programmed in, and we need to get out there soon.

Um I'll speak to that in a moment.

Um, but yeah, it's not a perfect system.

There's a lot of segments that you know uh plus or minus.

We it's it's not perfect.

Um we have the ability to go and inspect a segment.

We so we we went through systematically with a consultant um in 2023, I think, and they went through and inspected every segment of our network.

Um, we have the ability to go back and reassess and input deterioration data and and develop a new PCI for it.

Um, so when we flag stuff, we can go out there and take a closer look.

Um, but yes, we're trying to keep up on it and clean it.

Yeah, it's encouraging too to see the the large number of streets that are in the you know high 80s and even into the 90s, so yeah.

Um, you know, showing that, you know, the the the measure is working, the the program is working.

Um, and we all know uh, you know, as this might uh is almost certainly be coming up uh in the future for reconsideration, the measure P and S.

That uh many of these streets that uh have been dealt with uh are gonna need to be dealt with again because the programs uh been in play for long enough that it's time to start again.

Yeah, there's actually only three that are under 10 and one that's under 20 uh compared to the past, and they're they're all in the same area.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they'll all get fixed at one time, I'm imagining.

Well, that would make sense.

And even anecdotally, we can over the course of the years, we could see that the streets have improved substantially, like that representing that PCI of AD.

You can see it.

Yeah, it's good.

Second attachment is for B.

It's the upcoming pavement projects on in order of when we expect them to take place.

We um have a we're working on a contract with granite rock still for the North Fremont at City Limit uh Canyon Del Ray.

Um that's the full depth reclamation project that I spoke to last time.

Um we awarded um the Wave Street ADA and pavement rehabilitation to McKim Corporation um December 16th.

Um that's in contracting, and we expect them to start um next month.

Uh that'll be a pretty good project there.

The contractors who did um road surface repairs phase five open new Monterey in the Hill.

Um, and and also RSR 24-25.

So we work with them.

They're uh they're they're good.

Um then we're close to putting out to bid.

Um, oh let me pause and apologize for the XL formatting mistake on my table conditioning, and also there's three in uh incorrectly titled um general codes, those deerstalker path caribou court and uh two segments of caribou court are all RSR 26, um, which Cody's been running point with.

Um, and we're gonna go out to Deer Flats, Del Monte Grove, Laguna Grande, Fish Flats, um a little bit in the vistas, Oak Row, Villa Del Monte.

Um, Mark Thomas is another one that uh will be will catch attention uh when we're out there, so we're expecting that to be um a little bit later this spring.

Yes, nice to see that Cass is on there.

Yes, Cass is also we're still working through a couple, it's like 99%, and that might that's probably gonna target a summer project.

Um, working at CASS in El Dorado.

We don't want to be there during when school gets out.

Um so that's what we're that's the window we're trying to.

Any other questions?

Questions, comments from the committee.

Oh, I'd never even heard of PSI before, so this is kind of interesting.

Especially, you know, getting on cash.

Thomas, if you want to we're we're online too.

Yeah, aren't we?

So it just make sure you have a little light that it's turned on, yeah.

Otherwise you start getting the rattling door.

Yeah, you reacted quickly and uh I know better.

So the point is it's uh very educational and instructive.

Thanks.

Okay, uh can we get a motion uh on item four?

Uh move we approve item four, or I should say I guess except item four.

Really nothing to approve.

I second have a motion, a second.

Any discussion?

All the discussions it's nice to see Wave Street getting done.

Get rid of some of the real low one.

Yeah, yep, indeed.

All right, uh a vote, please, Elizabeth.

Patrick Aldinger.

Yes, Thomas Bruneau, yes, Justin Chung, yes, Rick Hoyer.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Passes unanimously.

Quick question though on Wave.

That's an expensive chunk, isn't that concrete street getting redone?

Um, wave is not concrete.

The like the sections between Drake on that end, there's two like blacker looking with the uh like a dolomite resurfacing.

So this isn't the concrete.

Um that's not concrete.

Uh Cass Street has concrete under it.

That's a massive section that we're just trying to figure revisit exactly our approach to be cost effective.

Um, because that has eight inches of asphalt base, then 100-year-old concrete.

Um, we're not gonna get that deep in it.

We're gonna probably leave that stuff down there, but yeah, there's some challenging ones over there.

Yeah, all right.

Item five sales tax update for quarter two, Raphaela.

Okay, so quarter to um calendar year um 2025, April through June.

So just a quick overview.

So a Monterey sales tax um was up 7.4 percent in Q2, which match in line with the county.

Um the state was only up 0.5%, so we did fairly well.

So our receipts from April through June were 14.2 percent above the second um the same sales period in 2024.

Um, we're showing at 7.4 percent because of anomalies are things that are paid late or catch-ups or things that are moved around.

So um, overall 7.4% for the city, 7.4% for the county.

Um, the central region was up 2.5 percent.

So those are all net numbers.

As you can see, the top 25 producers are listed.

Um, they are in alphabetical order because the rankings are confidential, of course.

And on the back, I'll just go to the business types.

So if you can see that the casual dining was up.8 percent hotels, um, 11.4% increase, service stations are down um 5.5 percent, and every other category, um, leisure entertainment, quick service restaurants, electronics, family apparel, specialty stores, fine dining, and grocery stores have all had a modest increase.

Well, family apparel is up 29%, and electronics was up 23%.

So those are the net changes or the effects of the changes for the second quarter.

I mean, the service stations being down, it's probably when did they start they started work on that 76 on the corner?

So I was on a commission for quite a while.

Well, this keep in mind this was April through June of 2025.

So I don't think that the station went out.

So yeah, was it that far along?

So I'm expecting that the field will probably stay down until at least until that's reopened.

Yeah, that might be a trend.

Yeah, I had made a similar comment last quarter, but the numbers are spectacular.

So it's likely there'll be continued momentum and it looks good.

They are, and it'll uh it'd be interesting to see for me at least, uh, and I would assume the rest of us uh what effect the opening of highway one has on on the cities and the county's uh sales tax revenues, and service station might be tied to just lower oil prices overall.

We've been seeing gas prices come down.

Yeah.

We don't have that many in the cities.

You take one out of commission for a while, and it's all right.

Any other questions for Rafaela on item five?

Can we get a motion to receive that report?

Um so moved.

Anyone?

All right, motion to second.

Any discussion?

A vote, please.

Patrick Aldinger?

Yes, Thomas Brunell.

Yes, Justin Chung.

Yes, Rick Hoyer.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Passes passes unanimously.

Uh up next is any uh staff uh information or staff comments.

Anything that you folks have for us, I do have a question.

Um, and the way and this is just I'm looking at preference and efficiency.

So I'm looking at the way that we do our review of an audit unaudited expenditures and also the periodic reports.

Would you be opposed to me combining these into one report?

To be perfectly honest, I always wondered why they were two separate reports.

It's the same info in both same.

Okay.

Yeah, you know, pretty much everything uh in item three uh or excuse me, everything in item two is contained in item three.

And so uh uh I I think uh I certainly go ahead and uh if if there's something that we we learn that uh confuses us or we don't like, we'll discuss it then.

Okay, next quarter I will combine in one report.

Thank you.

Great, thank you.

Anything else from staff?

Anything uh from committee members for four staff, anything on uh clarification how the process works or or anything else.

No, I'm just thank you for doing an excellent job in your first time.

You're welcome.

Anyone else?

All right.

Uh this can be close to a record, uh, unless there's anything else that anyone wants to bring up.

Yeah, just get a question.

So are is city city looking at putting renewal measure PNS on the November ballot?

And are they looking at and are they looking at doing the exact same measure redo or any changes or who knows at this point?

At one point, um it was going to be the same because of not wanting to uh be based on the 66% two-thirds votes versus simple majority.

Um, and I believe we cleared that up.

Thank you.

Um, so we haven't come back to that part yet since we know it's on November whether or not it's gonna be a changes.

There will be some more um another polling that goes out, I believe in May, June to kind of see what the public will tolerate.

I would hope this is this is for the general edification of the city.

I would hope that if they're looking to do any kind of changes, they at least talk to this committee.

I don't necessarily realize that that may or may not happen, but I would hope.

I will um make sure that that message is relayed.

Thank you.

That's something that each of us uh as committee members can mention to our uh city representatives.

Uh remind me uh was it uh confirmed, decided confirmed that uh whether it's changed or remains identical that it still requires a two-thirds, because it's specific.

Very good.

All right, anything else?

So I've got a real quick uh the attorney making a D line over the end of the next couple minutes.

Make sure I got her notebook.

Okay.

All right.

Thanks, Rick.

Okay.

Uh seeing nothing else, uh, we're gonna go ahead and adjourn this meeting at 10.