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How do we give us a hug Okay.
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It is four oh one, and we're calling to order the uh meeting of February twelfth of the Historic Preservation Commission.
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Um I want to acknowledge the staff that is present.
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Uh, from from the city.
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Um, can I trouble you, Spencer, to help me with a roll call.
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Commissioner Collum.
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Commissioner O'Neill.
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And Commissioner Smith Corvello.
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Uh Commissioner, rather, Vice Chair Barlow is currently absent.
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Staff present today are Planning Manager Hill, Principal Planner Rovari, and myself recording Secretary Argentbright.
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Information on participating in this meeting in providing public comment, including it remotely by Zoom or telephone is on this meeting's agenda, which is online at Monterey.gov forward slash agendas.
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Remote commenters will be muted until it is their turn to speak, and a timer will be shown on the screen.
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If you are connected on Zoom, the timer is accurate.
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Thank you for participating in uh your city government.
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Um, I'll entertain a motion to see if anybody wants to move to approve.
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We need to check for public comments first.
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Uh I'll open it up to public comments uh to discuss issues that are not on the agenda.
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Um, no, we'll be for the opening up for public comment for the consent agenda.
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Today I rushed, no excuse, just an explanation.
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I'm getting in commissioner mode.
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Let's let's do that again.
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Um, we're going to open it up for comments on uh issues that relate to the consent agenda.
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Um, is there anybody online, Spencer, that would want to comment on any of the consent items?
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Uh there are currently no attendees online.
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I don't see any hands raised or any eye contact.
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Well, uh I do, but not that they okay, perfect.
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So we're gonna close uh public comment on the consent agenda.
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We move we're moving now to the approval of minutes.
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Um, did everybody have an opportunity to look at the minutes?
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Uh previously, Commissioner Collum made a motion to approve the minutes.
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Any comments from the commissioners?
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Do we have a second?
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Second, Commissioner O'Neill.
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All those in favor, aye.
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So unanimous unanimously passed.
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Uh, this is the end of the consent agenda.
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Now we're gonna move on to uh general public comments.
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Uh Spencer, can I trouble you to tell me if there's anybody online that wants to do a general public comment?
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Uh there are currently no attendees online.
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And if you are joining by telephone, dial star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute.
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Uh, with that said, there are still no attendees currently online.
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Anyone present that would like to make a general public comment on any item.
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So we are going to move to the public hearing portion, uh, which is item number three to consider 800 Canary Row application HP 250268 to adopt a historic preservation report for Pacific Biological Laboratories.
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Um, I'm assuming we have a presentation from staff.
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Yes, thank you, Chair.
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My name is Fernanda Roveri, principal planner for the city of Monterey.
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And before you today is uh historic preservation report for the Pacific Biological Laboratories at 800 Canary Row.
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Staff's recommendation is that the Historic Preservation Commission adopt the historic preservation report in your agenda packet.
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So the city presently owns the site of the Pacific Biological Laboratories.
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Uh the PBL is an H1 zone city historic landmark and is also listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
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It's primarily significant as the home and workplace of marine biologist Ed Ricketts, and his friendship with John Steinbeck and with the PBL Club and the development of the Monterey Jazz Festival.
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This is a photo of the PBL as it currently is.
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So the city presently owns the site, and I'm gonna give a little background on our efforts to preserve it.
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In 2010, the city had architectural resources group prepare a historic preservation report, which the HPC adopted to address termite, sun and water damage, and recommend repair options.
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Subsequently, a $30,000 grant from the community foundation for Monterey County, Dowd and Stanton Fund, paid for an exterior interpretation plan and the restoration of the biological storage tanks pictured here.
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So these have been repaired since that photo in 2019.
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The goal is to provide an accessible path of travel throughout the building and site.
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As you can see, stairs can pose an access barrier to some people.
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There are stairs at the front and back of the building.
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In 2025, the city requested that ARG update the accessibility study to explore accessibility improvement options using the coastal public path on the property's south side, which was precluded from consideration in 2019.
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The path is pictured here.
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And if you face the property from Canary Row, the path is on the right side of the building.
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So instead of having to climb stairs to enter the building, this path would allow access from Canary Row to the rear yard, and then through a lift, it would provide access into the building.
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So if you follow my cursor, if you're a person on Canary Row, you could access this path of travel toward the back.
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There would be a new entrance through the existing fence.
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Then you could enter the platform lift, which would take you up or down to wherever you want to go on the site.
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In January of 2026, to meet historic preservation report requirements, ARG prepared a high level memo that explains how accessibility option A complies with the key concepts of rehabilitation.
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A full standard compliance analysis will be prepared once we have detailed drawings.
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So right now, the accessibility study has conceptual drawings, but once we have detailed drawings, then ARG would be able to prepare a thorough standards compliance analysis.
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So the project before you today is the historic preservation report, which is attached as exhibit A to the rush to the resolution in your agenda packet.
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It contains the original report from 2010, which provides a history of significant events and people connected to the resource, the accessibility study from 2019, the update from 2025, and the limited standards compliance memo from last month.
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So today, the Historic Preservation Commission's job is to ensure that the historic preservation report meets content requirements listed in the city code.
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HPC adoption of a historic preservation report is required prior to alteration of an H1 historic resource.
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And the city anticipates funding from the Western Flyer Foundation for the design and construction of the accessibility upgrades.
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So the report adoption is required prior to applying for construction or for a historic permit of these upgrades.
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So the report must be consistent with the following requirements.
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Which of the four Secretary of the Interior standards for treatment of historic properties is being proposed for the resource.
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The answer is rehabilitation, because it includes an opportunity to make possible an efficient contemporary use through alterations and additions.
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It would allow the necessary upgrades to provide an accessible path of travel to both levels of the building and the rear yard, which would support the contemporary use of the sites as a museum and educational space, as you can see here.
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This is one of the tours that is available through the library.
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The report provides a written description of the simple vernacular building, notable as the home and workplace of Marine Biologist Ed Ricketts and his friendship with author Steinbeck.
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And for association with the PBL Club and the development of the Monterey Jazz Festival.
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These photos show Ricketts' use of the building for sleeping, living, and working.
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The third requirement is that the report must contain a historic context and interpretive period of the resource.
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PBL was founded and operated by Ricketts from 1923 through the onset of World War II.
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The current building was constructed in 1937 after a fire destroyed the original lab.
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While operating the lab, Ricketts was known for his scholarship on Pacific Coast Marine Biology.
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The lab and Ricketts were immortalized as Docs Lab in Steinbeck's Canary Row book.
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And this and more, more history is contained in the historic preservation report.
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The fourth requirement is that the report contain an architectural history of the resource.
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The report includes a detailed description of the design construction, evolution, and significance of the building and site.
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It provides a list of character-defining features that range from exterior building form and materials to interior finishes and lab artifacts.
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It includes photos from the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, and photos taken by ARG between 2010 and 2025.
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It also includes a 1944 Ricketts drawing of the second story of his lab.
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These are photos of the um jars where he kept his specimens, the interior of his garage, I believe, and the shelving.
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And then on the right side is a photo of the garage door that was modified.
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It was uh enclosed partly to just allow a door, a regular door.
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But you can see the outline of the original garage door.
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This is the view from the rear.
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So the last requirement is that the report contain a program for preservation of the resource, including a statement of how the proposed program meets the standards.
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While the 2010 report makes repair and remediation recommendations, the 2019 and 2025 reports recommend creating an accessible path of travel to make possible the contemporary use of the building and site as a museum open for tours and educational events.
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The two accessibility options, A and B utilize a new platform lift, new exterior stairs, and ramps, but their placement differs.
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ARG prepared a high-level memo focusing on option A and how it fits into the standards for rehabilitation.
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If option B is chosen instead, the historic preservation report would need to be amended to include a standards compliance analysis for that option.
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If there's a change in scope of work, the report would also have to be amended.
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And this just shows the existing conditions of the rear and uh how the ground is not level, so that would require to be upgraded as well.
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With that, staff recommends that the historic preservation commission adopt the historic preservation report as presented in the agenda packet.
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I'm available for questions and our library and museums director is also here for questions.
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Thank you, Fernanda.
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Um I'm gonna open it up for questions from the commission.
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Yeah, but I have a question.
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Um we're just approving the report.
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We're not deciding on option A or B.
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That would be somebody else, or is that correct?
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Well, today you would just be approving the report because um it's required prior to approval of a historic permit.
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So you would this would come back to you once an option and we have and once we have finalized drawings, they would come back to you for approval.
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Are we able to make any um changes or suggestions to the format of the report?
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Because I found some of the drawings confusing.
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Uh, they address East and west sides of the building, but they're not on the schematic.
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So then you're looking at the little tiny north side, trying to decide.
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And there was also um a paragraph that had some um misspelled words.
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Yeah, so you can you can make those edits and we can include them uh as a condition to um edit prior to uh signing the resolution.
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You want me to I suggest you before motions because we're also gonna provide an opportunity for people to speak, just write it down.
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So if you want to make a motion to subject to what conditions, any yes, I just have two clarifications.
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Um looking at this um, and it doesn't have a number on the drawing, but you used it up there, and it's one of the early um photographs and uh in the packet, it shows just one of them set of cement tubs.
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We're conserving both sets of cement tubs.
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Yes, that's correct.
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So it was just it was just a photo that didn't include that, just to focus on other things.
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The other is on exhibit A, page 31.
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Yeah, I'm just not sure I understand this completely.
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So it's the executive construction cost summary.
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I know that may be out of our purview, but I'd I would like to understand it.
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And in the fourth column it says present value.
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So in option A, the present value is uh a million eight hundred and forty seven thousand eight hundred and thirty nine, but option B, which of course has a several different features, the present value is different.
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All of a sudden it's two million and fifteen, you know, and seventy-eight thousand.
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I don't know why the present value would change.
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Okay, I believe that the value was calculated by multiplying the square feet by the cost of construction, cost per square foot of construction, and that's and the costs are different between options A and B.
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So why does it say present value then?
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If it's talking about the construction costs, I'm thinking the present value should should be the same, shouldn't it?
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I'm not sure, but I'll jump in there.
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Can you refer which page you're you're talking about?
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It's 31 of the PDF.
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Executive construction.
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The executive construction cost summary.
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Well, it's looking at the present value, it is looking.
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If you can you can I'm not sure on the page on this because I have the document, what they are looking at on the full under exhibit A, as that is the total um construction cost, and so the present value means as of as of 2025, as in present, not the value of the property, the present value is how much would that construction cost for that work of option A cost?
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Option A would the um ARG and their their consulting firm KPJ consulting said 1.847 million dollars to construct option A, and option B would be 2.015.
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Um, what I'll so it's just a terminology.
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That's the terminology, and part of that is if you look at option B, the reason for the change, option B includes more um modifications to the actual building or an option A is just on the exterior of facility.
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Well, it makes sense when you say it that way.
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It's just when I read it, present value.
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So what what would be another way to um another term there that could make it clearer.
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Well, I I would say like if you look at that, um it's just says total construction cost.
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Yeah, and that would be.
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You know, that's total construction cost, which is recently related on another another page on the document.
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So I think if we wait six months, that present value of the cost is not gonna be that anymore.
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If there's tariffs or something happens in China and the steel goes up or down, so they they're presenting present value of the cost now, but when they come back with a permit, it might be different.
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And yes, that that I understand that too.
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It's just a term present value, um, made me think of the value at present.
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So and so that it was a confusing term for me.
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And that's where they it was, it's the consulting firm's terminology on that.
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What they talk what they sent, because you'll say if I'm on the right page on here, there it says program, right?
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So their their terminology is they say program option A, option B, square footage dollars per square foot, present value in ESC, and that's not escape.
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That's I think that's escalation of March 2027.
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So they're basically saying if it escalates in into the following year, that's where it goes from one million eight forty seven, eight thirty-nine to the estimated two million two forty nine, one sixty-six or two million fifteen thousand seventy-eight dollars to two million four hundred and fifty-two thousand seven hundred-eight.
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So they did at that time when they did their presentation, it was a two-year escalation.
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No, the way you've explained it, it's I understand it now.
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It's just the term at the top was confusing to me.
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And you're Brian Edwards Library Museum Director, correct?
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Yeah, that's correct.
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Brian Edwards, Library and Museum's director for City of Monterey.
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Thank you very much.
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Uh any other questions?
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Uh so the stairs that you're replacing in the back, were those original Rickett's arrows stairs?
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So if you're on the back of the building, you could still, you could see the the remnants of the line of the stairs that actually run along the side of the building.
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The stairs actually used to run from the back of the building from where the garage is where the garage was the opening there directly on the building straight up.
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And so I believe those were done in the 19, I don't have the direct number, but I believe they're done in the 1990s, probably by the city when we when we took over.
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And so they're they are not historic.
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They're not historic.
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The front stairs are just the design is mostly historic.
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Also, was there any thoughts or consideration given to um handicap access through the garage door in the front?
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Yeah, so that was in the 2019 study.
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Um the uh if you were to look at the ratio of of rate, you would go from the very garage at the front to the all the way to the end of the building in the back.
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And what you would have to do is you would have to knock out a portion of the living room, which was Rickett's bedroom.
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So that's the living room where Ricketts and Steinbeck used to hang out.
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So to basically because the because the how steep that is and the height, they wanted to either do a um a false door in the front and take out a piece of the front living room, which is where we do our interpretation and our talks, or um raise the the garage as well and go in through that, but then you would have to do a walkway all the way from the back to the front.
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And so that's why I requested a redo of the study of the 2025 to look through the easement on the back because I don't want to break into the building which is on the national you know records.
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Yes, I I read that part and I I really agree with it.
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I think it's nice to have the front undisturbed because it sets a stage for the building and it shows it pretty much the way it was.
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And then I've always liked the um the information that was along the sign that would help the casual tourists just thinking they're walking out to the water, actually learn a little bit about what they were walking alongside.
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And so I think there is room there to provide the access through an elevator, um a wheelchair style kind of um, I don't know, it's like a square-shaped uh open elevator.
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I think I think that's a better place to put it because it it doesn't detract from the the front.
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All right, any other questions?
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Um I know you answered some of our questions, but would you like to add anything as a formal presentation?
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Um first off, I want to thank uh Fernanda for her work on this.
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I appreciate you um for working on that.
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And I will just say, yeah, so I'm Brian Edwards Library and Museums Director, City of Monterey.
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We operate um Pacific Biological Laboratories, we do free tours once a month right now um people can register we're actually doing them this saturday people book online through the library website and then we also do open hours in the afternoon after we do two free tours but people also do book private tours with us as well so private group tours book through the library and museums and we do charge for those for private groups and we have docents that come in and Steinbeck scholars ricket scholars all of this and just to say that this site um really it's in our guide you know our city guidelines regarding the design guidelines for Canary Row as a district is one of the original sites right there so to keep that front facade as as original as possible is a highlight for me to really keep that as um intact as possible but still provide accessible access and so with that when you go in that was when I looked at going through the coastal easement and I've talked about this with our um planning team I appreciate Levi and uh Kim Cole and Lori Lynn Williamson from our building staff to talk about what are the options on here because when we go out there right now if you're in that back of the building and you lock yourself out of that of the doors there is no exit.
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There's no exit going out there if you go locked out there's no exit to go back on the coastal easement.
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So it's a this also provides that emergency access for people as we do that to come in and have that.
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And also just for historic interpretation from our museum side because if you've been on the tour you will come inside the building and it's left as it is from the men's club era.
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And so when you come in through the front door you start off and people say what's going on this doesn't look like Ricketts building because you're starting off with what the men's club left it as and so you're starting off and you start a tour and you say by the way the men's club are here later after Ricketts died.
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It's not the best way to start the tour.
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If you start the tour off the back you're starting it off back with the concrete tanks you're starting it off with the um the two uh Vicente Rodriguez who started off who actually they built some of the original tanks and the Rickets came in and collecting you can start with the lab and so for an interpretation side we could start on the back with interpretation of the lab of the space then walk into the building and then you can start walking and talking about the men's club that happened after Ricketts passed.
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And for us it's a more logical starting point to start there then go inside start talking about the changeover of that and then walk into the the front room which was you know important for the men's club era important for the Ricketts era.
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And so for us we're telling multiple stories and that's why it's important for us to keep this building as intact as possible because the men's club had the building longer than Ricketts and they have their own group that have an interest in it and are the Ricketts fans.
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So that's just to say that we think this is a better way to do that than also the concrete in the back or whether that's a decking or concrete or something on the back the concrete is buckled it's shifted there's holes in the back where at some certain points there was a canopy that was done in the back over there for over the tanks that's long been removed so there's still holes in the concrete which is not safe for walking so this is where just to say that um I think just as a concept we're looking at this as a concept and as Fernanda put in there we're looking at potential funding for coming back with designs what would this be coming back to HBC to look for before we start any actual work with this but yeah.
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All right thank you yes I'm sorry to ask another question this is just a cure curiosity I've been to several tours even one where his granddaughters came and there was you know they made the milkshakes and it was a lot of fun and I've I've seen it over time and this just sort of stood out to me today you see this um kind of um a board that could be you know maybe they put flower pots on it or maybe it was shelter in the rain if he was bringing back specimens or I'm just wondering what this little um wood there was actually used for.
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Yeah, so you'll see that in some of the photos towards the back of those were flower pots.
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They were flower pots, yeah.
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And I and I will say also this is the second building, and as as the Fernando showed the photo of the adobe structure, the adobe structure um caught on fire because the next door canning um business was abandoned and PGA gave him too much power and it burnt down the lab, which was the Adobe building.
36:39
The Rodriguez had um the two Rodriguez, they weren't brothers, but two Rodriguez that owned a um Las Bronze Canering, had Las Bronzi Canning at that at 740 Ocean View before it became Canary Row.
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That site burned down, and that's why John Steinbeck became 50% silent partner because he invested the money and he sold the he sold a Rickett sold the lot next door, which became 810 Canary Row, which is now 810 and the the Seattle t-shirt shop and all that.
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Um so this they've their friends came and built that building afterwards.
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That's why it looks different.
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But that would have been, yeah, there would have been um flower plots, flower pots.
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And I will say, and also as we looked in this, some there are other aspects of this from that historic report from 2010, things like the windows that still need to be done.
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There are other aspects of this building that still need to be addressed on here.
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Some of it has been addressed, a little of it, but the stairs, the accessibility is um really my main concern at this point.
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And just another flower pot question.
37:42
So if it's flower pots, and I can see the the plants, you're right, but why doesn't it go to all the windows, or was that window added later?
37:50
I mean, if you were building flower pots, wouldn't you go make it start in and through the length of the windows?
37:57
I don't think you want to hit your head as you're walking up the stairs.
38:01
It would it was interfering with the stairs, yeah.
38:07
I didn't think about that.
38:09
All right, thank you.
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Any other questions?
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So um the elevator, you would enter the elevator from the uh walkway.
38:23
If you're not handicapped, is there a way to do you have to use the elevator?
38:27
Is there another there's so many schematics and I think they're building a stairs on the other side, right?
38:34
I think I saw it somewhere.
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I think he's looking for the picture.
38:39
So it from what it was initially was kind of a um, at least this these are very conceptual.
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Um it the conceptual dynamics of it were to come in off of a landing.
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You come in off of there and you come into a landing, and from that landing, you either go into the lift, which goes up or down, or you go up or down off of a set of stairs.
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So it'd be like you first walk in off of a landing to get in there.
39:04
Either um, I'm I hope uh suggesting to the city that we have a field trip there.
39:12
Uh we were able to go yesterday um and look at it and it really was it's a mess.
39:22
Um, but it really it took the photos don't do it justice as far as what needs to happen, where the tripping hazards are and uh what needs to be done.
39:33
So I would encourage the city to to do that.
39:38
I can imagine a lot of uh attorneys, city attorneys kind of sweating every time somebody walks back there.
39:43
Looking at it, oh my god, liability.
39:53
Can I just make a comment?
39:54
I really like the idea starting from the rear of the building, Brian, because my first tour years ago was you know going up the front stairs, and I came away.
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Well, uh I a member was still there of the club.
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So he gave the tour, and that's what really stayed with me was with the club, the bar and everything.
40:16
And I was just wondering when people leave, will they go down the front stairs or they have the option of going back?
40:23
I guess the other way.
40:25
What's gonna happen with the front stairs and people?
40:28
I think we'll have to get to that point to decide like where it would be because I feel like the front stairs are gonna need some restoration work as well when we come back with a fully um flushed out plan because it could be to go through go through the front, like exit the you know, come in through the back, exit through the front.
40:47
Um, because I what I will say is like we do tours from some of the local high school, or not even just local high schools, we do high schools from like Santa Clara, and they'll bring in 100 120 people, but we can't do them all at the same time.
41:00
So we do groups, right?
41:02
And we rotate these groups in and out.
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And you have to when you're when you're rotating groups, you have to think of your tours of like how they go in and out.
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And if the stairs up front were restored, I think it would be safe to go through, you know, through the front, but if the if the only the back were done, we would want to think of that too.
41:21
Like what's the best way because we we still because it's such a treasure and such a historic building, we don't want to have tours every single day, and we don't want to overutilize that building because it's just uh, you know, it's just it's I don't think it can handle the stress of of so much use in that building.
41:45
I just um I just one other thing I noticed it's not important in a big way, but the rear porch and staircase were added in 55.
41:59
It at least it I'm I'm talking about exhibit A page 93.
42:09
So I'm imagining, I guess, that Harlan Watkins was renting the building for me, probably for storage or for I don't know if he lived there, what what it was.
42:24
And then just a year before he actually purchased the building, he added or someone added the rear porch and staircase.
42:33
So that's not it's not connected actually to Rick.
42:37
It's maybe there was a another rear rear porch and staircase that became unusable and they added a better one, or um, it seems like a good idea to have a rear landing and a stairs to go down.
42:53
So I'm just wondering why that seems to be you know, an addition to it, why it wasn't there.
43:01
How did he get down to the specimen cases?
43:04
I guess he'd have to go sound.
43:06
So I can say so prior.
43:09
If if you've been in there and if you've used the the restroom, if you or even been in the restroom, this what they call the Sofia Lorraine room where they have the Sophia Loren painting in the restroom.
43:18
The access to that used to be through the kitchen.
43:21
Oh the restroom and the shower went through, he went through the kitchen into the plumbing for that was there, and that was a wall on the back.
43:30
And so it wasn't you didn't go on the outside of the building to go right now, you go on the outside of the building to go into the restroom.
43:36
Used to be used to go straight into the house to go through there.
43:40
So the rear stairs just went to stairs, like went to the back door and just went straight down.
43:45
Okay, and went straight down to a staircase on there.
43:47
They built the landing because they rebuilt the kitchen and they built like a a faux wall that's in there.
43:56
There's like you can knock on it, it's like kind of vinyl wood siding on the inside of the back of the kitchen that goes in there to that to that restroom, but you have to access right now through the back porch.
44:08
That's why option B was on there, which would be to actually demolish some of the kitchen area or to push out that.
44:15
And I I feel like any kind of interior work would drastically increase the price and possibly the damage to that building.
44:26
So the the less that we do on that side.
44:28
So I believe that the porch was redone at a later time, but looking at it, that's where I think that they we know in the 55 the porch was added.
44:36
We know that that the stairs were at at the time, but I believe when the city when we took over in 93, when the city purchased it in the and can started doing tours, I believe that's when we started doing the restoration of that um staircase in the back.
44:52
That that makes sense that there was just a door to go out and then just stairs, you know, and the the um the other was an improvement, I'm sure, when they did it in 55.
45:02
Well, I think the report is really very detailed and really nice.
45:06
It's nice for all of us to read it and have a good history of the building, though.
45:12
So, thanks to the office and to the other people over time that have worked on this.
45:17
I think it's great.
45:19
Alright, any other questions?
45:22
All right, um, we need to open it for public comment, Spencer.
45:26
Can you tell me if there's anybody online?
45:29
Uh there are currently no attendees online.
45:32
Anybody present that would like to make a comment?
45:38
So now I know we mixed uh questions and comments, but one last time, any commissioner questions.
45:45
Uh, sorry, any commissioner comments?
45:48
No, only thing I would say is I'm glad you're doing the work.
45:53
Um, I'm glad that you're providing accessibility to all of our residents.
45:57
Uh the people with disabilities can also access that amazing building.
46:02
I also know the gentleman's club portion of it, and I wish I have a had a cubby with my uh preferred alcohol.
46:08
Um, um, so thank you very much for doing it.
46:12
And I hope you get from the 30 to the two million uh that you need.
46:19
Can I need to make a motion?
46:20
Uh yes, I think we were ready to move.
46:23
All right, so oh, sorry, you were gonna make a motion subject to some changes.
46:30
Uh just yeah, so um I'd like to see better definitions of the terms and in that vein, the schematics.
46:40
May I just may I suggest uh Commissioner O'Neill uh perhaps you would like to make a motion and then include your uh changes in that motion, and then we'll see if that gets seconded.
46:51
So um I move that we accept the um historic preservation report for the Pacific Biological with I can take it.
47:04
Um do the quibbles, yeah.
47:07
Um I thought we so define um the uh terms that they use in ESC was one that I wrote down.
47:18
Um, and on the schematics, do uh a better job of what east and west is because it's very confusing on Canary Road because of the way it uh goes around, and on page 39 of exhibit A of the packet or the uh no, it's 65 of the packet.
47:42
39 of the report is a paragraph that says at the top of stair fights, handrails shall extend horizontally, and they use the term fight all the way through, and I believe they mean flight like.
48:00
So I don't know how it got in there three or four times incorrectly, but that should be.
48:06
All right, so we have we have the motions uh subject to those suggested changes.
48:13
Um, second, all right.
48:17
We we have a second.
48:20
I think it's better to have all right than fight.
48:23
I'll open it up for no, I'm not gonna open it up for anything.
48:27
All right, all those in favor.
48:29
I all those opposed.
48:33
All right, adopted, thank you.
48:36
Uh, if anybody didn't believe that the commission reads carefully every report, they can they can look at the recording of today.
48:49
But I'm not, so I googled it and no, quite means just a cut.
48:55
Now uh we're gonna move on to planning update if there are any sure.
49:03
Um, so as noted in the report, just real quick, uh, we do have some tentative items tracking for our March 12th HP C meeting.
49:09
So uh we'll uh plan on bringing forward the CLG annual report.
49:13
As you know, we are certified local government uh city of Monterey, and that's due to the qualifications of this commission.
49:19
So we'll be bringing that report forward uh in March.
49:22
Also noted in the uh update is some upcoming historical and cultural events.
49:26
Uh as uh our uh Brian mentioned earlier.
49:29
The Pacific Biological Lab is hosting tours.
49:32
We have most notably February 14th uh tour available, and then, of course, we have the 21st annual chocolate and wine fundraiser that's happening on February 21st.
49:42
Is that for the library?
49:46
All right, I know commissioners always have they always have additional events going on any turn it over.
50:16
So uh we're trying to get more money for the maintenance of Casa Serrano, basically.
50:25
Any other events, announcements?
50:29
If that's it, uh we will adjourn the historic preservation commission meeting at four forty-four p.m.