How do we give us a hug Um sure and everyone make sure you have your mics pointed towards you and green light on if you're speaking in.

Um Chair Kimsey.

Here.

Vice Chair O'Neill.

Here.

Commissioner Fullop.

Commissioner Mukowski.

Commissioner Caldi.

And Commissioner Evans.

Here.

And Commissioner Turgeon has notified us that she will not be making it today.

So we'll note that Ken Burley Turgeon is absent.

And we have a cornerman from staff.

We have Brian Edwards Library and Museum's director and assistant library director, Melissa McHia.

And I can just note for uh members of the public that would like to comment today, please raise your zoom hand on the screen when notified.

And if you're also attending uh by phone, dial star nine if you'd like to raise your um zoom hand during that appropriate section.

I'll turn it over to the chair.

So we have our first presentation, the update on museums.

Yeah, so this is just a kind of a verbal presentation we could do.

We could show it on the screen if if you prefer, but the uh once of update that we have changed the museum tour fees schedule as was approved by council during the master fee schedule.

This is in an effort to get cost recovery in terms of the museum tours.

So we have increased the base tour fee to a hundred dollars for four people as of July one.

So any tours that come in, and these are for our tours for, these are for private tours.

So this is sites like Pacific Biological Laboratories, Colton Hall, as well as Pacific Biological Pacific Biological Laboratories, Presidio Monterey Museum, and Colton Hall.

We do a private tour.

The museums are still free to open free to access at different public hours and time.

So if you go to the Presidio Monterey Museum Saturdays and Sundays 10 to 4, you're welcome to go in there and go into the museum.

But if you're scheduling a time for us to bring in a private tour, we will charge for that.

And then we started adding a 100 school fee, and that was because we get a lot of when we have schools, we end up having to have generally multiple staff kind of help out to facilitate those school visits.

And we do have a we've increased some of our other uh fees, which we haven't started yet.

There we'll come back to the commission later.

One of those was one that we talked about at one of the earlier meetings was to have a booking fee.

We have to come up with kind of a procedure and policy with that, but that would be 250 dollars an hour minimum.

It used to be $30 an hour when they used to do Pacific Biological Laboratories.

So this would allow some use of some of these facilities once we create a policy.

The policy would have to go through our city attorney as well.

So that's why we would we're waiting on that, but created the fee schedule so that we could create the policy to match it later on.

Outside of school tours, uh, do we get many private tours?

Yeah, so I could say, for example, um, I won't put in the people's uh, what do you call it?

I won't put in there um things on the screen because it's you know a lot of private information.

But so, for example, this month um we have a so tomorrow we have a Presidio Monterey tour, we have a Colton Hall tour, we have a Colton Hall tour on Monday, we have uh two Pacific Biological Lab tours next week.

Um the following week we have two Pacific Biological Lab Tours.

We then also have the the clampers coming for Colton Hall and the Presidio Monterey that week.

The following week, we have another Pacific Biological Lab Tour, a Colton Hall School Tour, and another Pacific Biological Lab Tour.

So that's to say right now this month, it's not every day, but we have six Pacific Biological Lab Tours.

Um we have four Colton Hall tours and two Presidio Monterey museum tours.

So we have increased our tours, and part of that is because that we uh, thanks to Melissa for working on this was to add a book a tour web page.

And one of the things before was you had to contact somebody by email or phone, and it was hard for people to figure out how to do a tour.

So we put it on there that this is how you could book a private tour.

So that has helped.

We don't have a lot of um, we rely heavily like Presidio Monterey on our docents, which are retired veterans at the Pacific Biological Laboratory.

We have people from all different parts of life, as well as um myself or Brianna, Melissa, we also host tours over there too, as we can.

Um and same thing with uh Colton Hall.

You know, we do we're kind of uh all in, so we're kind of limited in terms of like we're managing it as we can with limited staff to get in there, but having it online has helped our schools be aware of how they could contact us, where they can do it, and then we send them usually a payment link.

They pay either by credit card or mail us a check.

And this, in our opinion, is helping will help to increase the cost recovery for uh staffing of the part-time staff for museum operations and also help with uh just support and help with getting people into the museum doors.

Um I also wanted to highlight that we have recently opened Colton Hall back to seven days a week.

Um, and I know that was something that speaking with Commissioner Evans uh multiple years that was a big thing that we're trying to do.

And so there are some times when we are low on a staff member, but we have our uh museum attendants who have been great in us providing that daily um increase of hours.

We had done a quiet opening of Mondays, and Mondays was actually a good day because a lot of state park sites are closed on Monday.

So if you go to Custom House Pacific House, like people visit here seven days a week, and so we have we're getting more people and more traffic inside of our um museum there.

Presidio Monterey Museum, we're still at Saturdays and Sundays.

We um get docents that go in and out, our two long-term docents.

Um Dennis and Richard do a great job in terms of being there regularly and providing service.

And as I mentioned, they're both uh retired veterans, and so they really appreciate serving there at that community.

So that's the kind of site that we do work often with uh DLI when they need tours, and we work with their command historian to actually provide tours.

So those are things that we will work with them one off.

And as I mentioned, the Pacific Biological Laboratories, we do our uh second Saturday free tours still, which are two free tours, and then we do open hours, and then mostly private, and a lot of people really enjoy having the availability of private tours there.

So um one there are options of um there are kind of in my mind.

I I want to just preface back to I think this is a capacity kind of an issue at some point too, just about who provides because we can't always have just docents go to the Pacific Biological Laboratory because then we have to have somebody with the key and alarm set things up, take it down.

So there's stuff that needs to happen in terms of security of a facility like that.

So that's why uh we we have some limitations there, but you know, I feel that some of those sites that we could increase opportunities for some of these tours and they would be able to be booked because I there are enough tourists and there's enough visitors in some of those sites like that that if we were to publicly post it, it could get the um return in some of that revenue.

But we would need an increase in terms of our museum attendance or or some of our volunteer docents.

So the numbers that I talk about, you know, the kind of the tours that we're doing throughout the week, um, I think are kind of at we we do as much as we can and we've been handling the tours there.

But that's just a brief update and kind of like I wanted all of the commission to know that we had increased our hours at Colton Hall, that we have um done an online booking form, and that has helped us out as increased the attendance and that has also allowed us to um manage the bookings because when we book it, if we were to use a third-party booking system, there are opportunities also for us to book through a third-party vendor that sells tickets, but then if we did that, there's a percentage that gets cut from there, and it could be a fairly large percentage.

So we're just we're balancing that right now as well.

About how do we do that?

So I'm happy to answer any questions on this or any comments.

So, where are they publicized?

For example, the lab tours where they publicized, you said not publicly, but you just put a sign out on the days it's open.

No, so we actually book them through the public tours we book through the library.

So we've also in I should add we have um the public tours of Pacific Biological Laboratories are bookable through the library museum's event page, and we put we usually post them on the city events page as well, and then sites like the Monterey County Weekly pulls all of our events and usually puts that on their calendar as well.

Those events we actually did, and I will note that we put two of the scheduled events and one that's a open hours because what was happening is it's really hard to park in Canary Row, so we may have a max 15 people and eight show up, but people that are walking and leaving the aquarium in the afternoon or wanting to see the building, so that's why we did open hours to increase that traffic.

So the the events are posted on the library and museum's website, and we also just recently started doing free walking tours for Colton Hall through the Library and museum's website as well to increase traffic and people awareness of Colton Hall events.

And it's the same place that we uh our past commissioner Tim Thomas, he does the fisherman's wharf walking tour, and we coordinate that also through the library museum's website.

So we've put those things all on the library website.

It's also on the museum's page.

So if you look up Pacific Biological Laboratories, you'll find our web page website, which we've updated and we've added a link on there, like book a tour, so that people could book it there too.

So just help it's helpful for the public and ourselves.

Thank you.

A quick couple questions.

Yeah.

With regarding the fees.

Yeah.

So is there a maintenance impact amount that's baked into the fees?

Because a hundred dollars seems very, very low.

That's my first question.

Yeah, so what they're looking at.

So on the fee like that, they looked specifically at, I don't know if you were at the council meeting when they looked at the master fee schedule.

And one of the the codes and the state laws that you can't charge above, like you know, there's like a reasonable rate, and you can't charge above things for public access, like public events reasonable rate.

So what they did is they did everything based on a specific salary.

So they weren't doing it on number of times you have to refinish the floor or things like that.

What they're doing it based on is what's the fully impacted salary.

So if we're basing it on our artifact specialist salary, we're but basing it based on their hours, hourly salary as well as their benefits, you know, all of the things that you know, like when you look at a person's salary, that's not the full salary, it's it's all of the other things, uh, salary and employee benefits and things in there.

So that was the fee that we looked at on there, and so that was we looked at what does one hour charge for that?

And it's one hundred dollars for the first four people, and each individual additional to that is an additional fifteen dollars.

So we kept we did keep the school fees low because we do have schools that have limited funds and it's hard for them to get in there, but we felt that that 100 at least covered the one staff member's time to provide that tour for that time.

Hopefully that clarifies.

That clarifies some of it.

I'm I'm still wondering where in the details of the budgets that the maintenance costs are coming from, and it sounds like it's not going to be covered by any type of an admission fee for certification purposes.

Right.

So I would say things like we don't have in our in our museum budget, there is no budget specific line item for us for maintenance.

That would be under public works, right?

So what what you would see on there and the last time, and that maintenance is often things like that might be right now, it's very on a site like Pacific Biological Lab or Colton Hall, it's often minimal unless there are things like the larger project that we submitted for NCIP.

There is not a specific amount that's set aside every year for let's say we need to the floors have enough, they used to hand wax the floors and the hand waxing of the floors has maybe hasn't been done for about 15 or 20 years.

So those are things that have to be done, but they're not in our budget for that.

So it's it's just kind of it's missing and on our side of like how we contract that.

Okay, thank you for the clarification.

The other is on the third-party vendor for the payments.

Is there a way to break off the additional fees, much like we're all paying a credit card fee now when we go to purchase anything from anywhere?

Is there some type of a convenience fee or something that can be added in there so that it's not coming out of the admission fee?

Yeah, and I will say that the because it's a contract, and I haven't signed anything, I just the person came to present something, someone go over the full percentage, but it was it was a pretty large uh there's some large websites that actually do things based also off of people's like airline points, hotel points, and then that gets transferred into like a PayPal payment, and they take a, you know, a double-digit percentage off of it.

So I think that would be something to negotiate because do we charge them, you know, the rate because our rate return rate should be a hundred dollars or fifteen, right?

So is there a way for us to increase the rate if we're selling it through a third party?

That would be something to negotiate and discuss with them, but it would be something where they people could either pay direct through credit card or through you know airline miles or book on, like if you're booking a trip on a on a travel website, they say, Oh, what cool things are there to do?

And you click and you buy your package, you then would get reimbursed after your package is complete.

So I could see that as a possibility, yeah.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

No.

Okay, we have no consent agenda this time.

So can we just make sure if there's any comments online, if there's any attendees, no, no attendees online.

All right, thank you.

Bless you.

All right, so item number two, the annual appointments for chair and vice chair.

Yeah, so this is a as you see the back.

If you looked in the packet, the rules we have are a little long, but are um so just to point out that in July of each commission chooses to appoint new members uh as chair and vice chair, and typically the position that is vice chair typically goes into the chair role, but there's also the part that the long the person that has um read off this one, the first one for anybody that is watching online or not, but the position of chair shall rotate annually to the member who has the longest current period of continuous service on the board or commission without having served as chair, and then the position of vice chair shall rotate annually to the member who has the second longest current period of continuous service without having served as chair.

If the member selected as vice chair is on the board or commission at the time the next chair is selected, he she shall become chair.

So that's where typically the vice chair moves into section two is essentially where the vice chair moves into the chair role.

Um then if two or more members have the same longest or second longest period of continuous service without having served as chair, the board commission shall determine by vote which one serves as chair or vice chair first.

And then no member may serve as chair or vice chair for more than one year at a time.

No member may serve as second or greater term as chair or vice chair unless all their qualified members have subsequently served as such or now decline to serve as such.

And all members who have served on their respective board or commission for at least six months shall be qualified to serve as chair, and a board or commission member may decline to serve as chair or vice chair in the event a member otherwise eligible for selection declines the position, the member next in seniority and can continue a service without having served as chair shall be selected.

The declining member if still on the board or commission at the time of the next rotation will be eligible for the position again at that time.

And it says number seven, is it is express intent of this policy that the positions of chair and vice chair shall be rotated among members of boards and commissions to the greatest extent possible, with no person serving more than one year at a time or consecutive reappointments.

Any confusions or questions regarding this policy shall be referred to the city council for clarification or resolution?

Um this was something that I've found that since my time here, this policy has been enacted here by the museums and cultural arts commission that we've consistently operated by this policy.

Um so that's where I put on here, plus you in terms of what years people have served as chairs, so you'll see on there.

But to note that we had three appointments all on the same date.

So Commissioner Fullup, Commissioner Caldi, and Commissioner Turgeon all were appointed on the exact same date.

We had three vacancies at that time.

So based on our guidelines, the recommend recommendation is if he chooses to accept the role, is that the recommendation would be that Commissioner O'Neill would step into the chair position, and then the recommendation would be that either Commissioner Fullop, Commissioner Caldy, or Commissioner Turgeon would be the vice chair for 2027.

So with that, those are on my side.

I I open it up for questions, comments, and discussion.

Well, I guess I would ask the two new members.

Are you both interested in being vice chair?

I am not at this time.

Well, I think that makes our decision easy.

Well, Commissioner Fullop, are you interested?

I am up to the challenge.

Okay.

I recommend uh that John and uh, Ms.

uh Kaelin uh be selected as chair and vice chair.

I'll second that.

And Vice Chair O'Neill, are you uh are you ex were you accepting of the role as chair for this coming year too?

I'm willing to accept all right, yes.

And do we have uh a second for Commissioner Wokowski's?

Yeah, I'll second it.

You second okay, personally.

Okay.

Do we need to vote?

Yes, and just do it.

You can you can just do all in favor?

Aye, any opposed?

Do we have any?

There's no public attendance, right?

You know, public attendance at this time.

All right.

So great.

That was so the next thing is the Colton Hall.

Um music program.

Yes, music program, yeah.

And I want to I'll turn over to some of us to uh Chair Kimsey as well, because I feel that um the concerts went really well this year for those who are in attendance, and I know I've saw many of you in attendance at different concerts, but I felt like the timing of 4 p.m.

worked really well.

Um, and that we had a good size.

We've we adjusted the size of the of the room as needed and used the benches when needed, and the chairs that I had ordered worked really well.

Um so we're looking at continuing this.

I will state there's one other comment on here too, which is about theirs on their um, and we could discuss this kind of separately from that, which is also to note that we're interested in possibly doing it might be somewhat of a music event, but like a Colton Hall ball, like some kind of like a dance or something around Halloween time.

And this would be a ticketed event, it would be something to raise funds for for Colton Hall Museum.

And the thought with that would be the day after the uh California Constitutional Convention ended.

They took out the tables and they had a big dance inside of Colton Hall.

So this would be something I don't the tables are pretty large.

I don't even know if I can get those out.

But if we could figure out a way to put them aside, but even just having a small thing to look into this, this is something that our team has some has had some interest in about having events like this that help us bring in new people in the Colton Hall.

And they bring it can help bring in some revenue to the site.

So with that, but I'd like to turn it over to uh Chair Kimsey for any comments on the concert series and moving forward.

Okay.

Well, uh, we did discuss the concert series, and I think we have sort of three dates that we've looked at.

Um these aren't final, but Brian was reviewing the calendars, various calendars to see if they would work.

Uh October 10th or 11th that weekend, November 14th or 15th, and December 12th.

Brian, did you come up with anything on December 12th?

That was a big question.

And let me pull this up one more time too.

I'm gonna pull this in here.

What I wanted to make sure is I like to look at what's going on in the community as well, just for that, just to make it's hard to find sometimes this far in advance, but one of the things is I was mentioning as Chair Kimsey and I spoke about it.

Is that if you know there's like a high school graduation or some big event happening on the lawn, we just don't want to interfere with with those kind of things.

Um the 12th and when I looked it up was was was okay.

That's three dates, is there a I think we're just going to do three.

Um, well, three or four.

Yeah.

Uh we probably will do more in the spring, but we have so many holidays toward the end of the year, and then we have, you know, um labor day to start out, and we don't usually start before that.

We don't do August and such.

So I think I'm gonna kind of work with that.

I have some groups that are interested.

I've contacted, and I love doing this.

If no one objects, I'd like to continue doing it.

Um I think it was very well attended, and it grew and grew.

I mean, we had I think 96 at one one of the concerts, which was just fantastic.

Um, we do have the prices set, and I haven't had any problem with the people accepting that amount.

I know it's not a high amount, but they want to perform at Colton Hall.

It's something really special.

Brian says we do have the staff to cover.

We didn't have any problem with added costs and that sort of thing.

So that's I think all I have to add, uh Brian.

If you have anything else, we'll move forward on that and then sounds great.

Yeah, just in case there's any other feedback from the commissioners or any thoughts on that, and you know.

Any other comment would be John would be a great uh background on uh the Halloween ball because they do want to have Point Sir Lighthouse.

Oh yeah.

As a major fundraiser, we were there last year when they were setting it up and it was quite dramatic.

And what is the date for yours?

Do you have one this year?

It's the Saturdays, the two Saturdays before Halloween.

So that's the 24th, which we were looking at.

Okay.

So we need to consider that.

And I can connect with uh uh Chair O'Neill as well.

I think it'd be great too.

I we're just looking at we don't have anything planned right now, but I mean like we want to just get something on the calendar because we thought it would be a a nice event here.

I think people are often looking for events that they could do around that time of year.

So, and as far as the tickets go, is there a set amount or amount we're limited to or anything in the rules and regulations.

You know, I mean we have like our I think that we I don't know if we we would probably have to look at the stated occupancy how we have specifically because you're moving.

Like if it is a dancer, you know, listening, like I would say it's probably be might be kind of small, actually, based on how's the room size getting everything out.

But then also we would want to make sure to have all the restrooms open down the down the hallway, you know, out there because that could be an issue when you're having an event like that.

You want to make sure you have ample restrooms and in there.

But you're gonna be working on those aspects.

Yeah, and we'll work on like kind of what an what an average.

I mean, I'd be happy to talk with uh with John about that about what the kind of the pricing is too because you want to make it feel like people would buy tickets for an event like that here too.

I just I just think it's something that it wouldn't be a very big event, but it would be something I feel that would be kind of exclusive and it would be a something different and people would enjoy something like that.

We could tie that into touring the jail or something like that as well, you know, for spooky and people like that kind of stuff as well.

Yes, get a couple of people in costume, or we have you may have observed last week that or last year that some mysteriously somebody is under the bridge.

Howling or something.

Right.

People like that stuff.

Maybe there's a prisoner still in the jail and can't get out.

Well, I told that story before when I worked as a community development director and we had school classes come into the jail.

I used to send one of my junior planners there and start banging on the wall saying, let me out.

There you go.

Any other comments?

No.

Okay, item four, the update on the uh Ferguson funds.

Yeah, so um that's back to me.

And so would I highlight this will also may be up on Kiss BW tonight or tomorrow because they they called and asked me about it.

So we filmed briefly over at the Presidio Monterey Museum earlier this afternoon.

Um so Major General Robert Ferguson served in um the cavalry here in Monterey, and then also was commander at Ford Ord.

And um his son served in Vietnam and his son passed away in Vietnam as well.

Um but commander and at the time Commander Ferguson served in um was in um, you know, served all around the country, was stationed in West Point as well.

So it has a long and kind of storied career.

There's photos of um at that at that time Commander Ferguson with Ronald Reagan when Reagan was filming a film over at the Presidio.

Um, when he when Reagan was an was an actor, and also he was in uh Hawaii during Pearl Harbor.

So, but when Ferguson passed away later on, when his wife passed away, they left as part of their estate funds that went there to go to the Presidio of Monterey Museum.

So with that, there are some we currently have in the funds 90,444, 445 dollars is how much we have in this Ferguson fund at this time, and this is to be used primarily.

We used it for staffing and collections in the past.

They used it for the artifact specialist in the past years during COVID time.

That's where some of the the artifact specialist staffing funding was coming from was from the Ferguson Fund.

And now we can use it for a collections for the facility for specifically the Presidio of Monterey Museum.

This the action to approve this is through City Council, and City Council would I would bring a city council agenda report, and they would rec they would have to approve the transfer of funds from the trust fund into our from that Ferguson Trust Fund into our museum's trust fund for expenditure.

Um but I wanted to highlight there's several projects that are of need here in our Presidio of Monterey Museum.

One is the roof.

If you look there, that roof is about the past two winters has been leaking.

There's some areas where it's it's at that age where it needs a full replacement.

It has just been there's shakes have been re redone over time, and so the full roof needs to be replaced.

And also the area that it leaks is directly over the electrical closet and the alarm closet.

So that's you know can cause further issues of something like that if we don't fully uh fix that error because then you have leaking coming in, then you end up with all kinds of other issues.

So there's a patch on it at this time, but when we've had heavy wind, the tiles are coming off.

From our understanding, even though this the building is owned as a reminder by the United States Army, and it's not owned by the city of Monterey.

We lease the facility, but the lease states that we maintain that part of it.

So it's our understanding that from our property management division that we are responsible for replacing the roof on that facility.

Um and I have notified, by the way, I send annually, I send a report to the United States Army property management and to the commander regarding all of the maintenance we have at the presidio, and we've notified them already, just for clarity that we've notified them that this roof is in need of replacement past couple years.

So they're they're aware.

Um and then the side door, which comes in, there's a ramp that was built when there was um work done.

There's a door that's there, and the door is just the full layers are peeling off the door.

The door is just damaged.

And we would like to get a new door there as well.

So another part on there is I would like to add a another mannequin.

We've had many different mannequins in there, but we have a drawing on the wall that's of a Spanish soldier coming in.

We have these Spanish soldiers, but all of the soldiers in uniform right now are American.

And the site is actually known under the National Register of Historic Places by the uh National Park Service.

It's a it is nationally designated site, but that site is known as El Castillo, right?

Service in the under the Spanish and Mexican era of government as well.

So just the state that I think that we should have a mannequin of there.

And Monterey History and Art Association has an outfit that was used during the Dianza recreation in 1976.

So it's an it's a 50-year outfit that's based on a Spanish soldier that would have come up in Monterey.

So we are looking at borrowing that to put that on a mannequin so that we have somebody that look could look at the Spanish era, then going into early American era.

And then also Colonel Roger Fitch, who served as the commander as well of both the uh Presidio Monterey as well as the um Fort Ord, and he was one of the founders of the Monterey History and Art Association.

Colonel Fitch also created the path of history along with Laura Bride Powers.

So they were Colonel Fitch was instrumental in saving history.

They were very interested in history, architecture, art, and preserving all of this around Monterey.

And so Colonel Fitch, if you go to Monterey's birthday, we have the La Merienda sword that's on our display of there, and that's Colonel Fitch's saber that he used at the time, and his wife used it for cutting the first kind of the birthday cake for Monterey's birthday cake.

So that's brought out every year.

We bring it back to Monterey History and Art Association.

They use it to cut the cake.

Then we clean they clean it, we put it back on display.

They actually own Colonel Fitch's service revolver, and they've offered to loan that out too.

Now if we were to put up something like that, I would like to remove a firing pin and get a locking case so that we can have the um that on display inside of the museum.

We currently have a replica of a machine gun in there, you know.

So we do have a you know a replica firearm, and we do have some other rifles inside of there from service members.

So we filled this bits with some of our other items that are in there.

But Colonel Fitch has such a big place in history here in Monterey that it might be good to have more objects from him as well.

And then we'd also like to put in some kind of digital display that's just a rotator of images.

We have a couple videos that play that show movies and they go on um during the weekend that rotated out.

The site does not have internet.

Um, going back, I did not want to pay monthly for an internet service on a site like that because we don't get enough traffic to pay for it, and it's not on the city network, so and it's not wired in because of the site it is on the presidio.

So I would prefer to have something, a screen of some sort where we could just highlight upload images we have of historic um, you know, the defense language institute, Presidio Monterey, and different military images or area is images of the the area that we could put on a rotator.

So I don't have a full number yet.

I'm trying to get a uh a new another bid for the roof from our public works department to get another bid on that because that's going to be the much by far the largest is going to be that the bid on that roof.

But these are the items that I'm planning on going forward to um city council for approval, but I wanted to bring it forward to talk with the museums commission and get any feedback and thoughts on this.

I don't know if you got my note, uh Brian, but I asked, is there a ballpark estimate of how much those five items would cost?

Um, yeah.

I think we have I'm not sure on the roof.

I mean, what I could say is the um the door is is a standard sized door.

I looked at that.

So you're looking at under about a thousand dollars.

The mannequin and everything on there landed with any kind of additional pieces like clothes and stuff like that.

I think it's like just about $500.

Display case too.

We looked at that before, and work on the revolver is maybe about a thousand dollars.

So with that, and then the digital display case, you're looking at digital display, maybe two thousand dollars.

So if those smaller items right there, you're looking at, you know, 4,500 to $5,000, and it's really the roof, which to me is the wild card, because I believe that space is about, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's around 2,000 square feet of facility.

Um I need to see kind of what the going rate is from getting bids in on that roof of what that what that would be.

So if we could get that, then I would then I would know on that.

Uh is the trust fund um invested?

It is.

I don't know where because we get the returns that come back from the city.

How do the returns compared to all this?

So we're gonna uh sounds like we're gonna start spending principal, which is not a good plan normally.

Yeah, it's it's a I mean, if we were to just go with the sides of the door, the I mean, we I think we earned on interest about $2,800 last year, I believe it was on that.

I can look to get the exact number, but I believe it was around $2800 in interest on that fund last year.

Um, and so yeah, we'd have like about $5,000.

So, of course, that that's more on there, but on the other side is that we don't have a fund or a plan for that roof.

And I'm gonna say like I don't I don't have any other we have a trust fund that's we have a museums trust fund as well that does accrue funding that's specific.

This is a fund that's specifically for the Presidio Monterey Museum.

It's the only fund that we have that's really dedicated towards that.

Um, but we don't have another fund that's going to help pay for this.

We've got a lot of capital expenses and needs all throughout the city.

And I've I'm concerned that if we don't if we don't do something about the roof now, then we're going to have an even larger um cost in the future for other things, whether that's the damage to the floor or foundation or you know, the the not just the structure of the roof as well.

So that's just to say it might eat up a good percentage of it, but it's in terms of like we need to we need a plan to address this as soon as possible, in my opinion.

Do you have an idea when we will have figures on the roof and such?

Um I can I'll follow up with our public works staff that work at the presidio.

We have public work staff that work up at the you know the upper presidio.

So I've been in contact with them about it.

So I asked them to get additional quotes, but I haven't gotten a date yet.

It's good to have a roof when it's not the rainy season.

Yes, exactly.

When you're not scheduled, when you're not scheduling in November and December.

Is this um wood shingle roof?

Um, I believe it's actually uh composite.

It's a it's a composite roof.

It's like it's like the you know, the you know, the comp tiles.

Yeah, it's not it's not like a wood, it's not like a wood shake kind of a shingle, but is a is a uh composite that's on like a wood base.

Okay, it's it's not gravel and tar.

No, it's not gravel and tar, no.

This is cheaper then, yes.

Yeah.

On the roof issue, is there are there any grants available?

Are there any solar incentives if we were to go to some type of a solar system?

Solar, we'd have to look at I don't know if the ability of doing that.

That's a good question on there.

The grants um speaking of grants, I would say I am not aware of any right now because I can talk about this in the director's report.

Our next two years are allocated the one grant that we typically get for historic structures in this area is community foundation, Monterey County.

And I did get the grant that we we applied for regarding the Grenizo mural.

That's two years, that's $50,000 each year, but that was only those two years.

So that would be something that we would have to do on a grant on that.

The other one typically on that people do a lot here.

I know that like Monterey State Historic Park did this for the uh Sherman's quarters and things and Sherman's quarters.

What they did is they did Monterey State Historic Park Association put out a MC Gives campaign to raise funds for that, and then they actually had their state trainees.

So they brought in trainees that that were state workers, did the trainees and they did it as a trainee program for doing historic structures.

So that was a you know, interesting partnership when you could do things like that, but it was helped funded primarily through MC Gibbs.

We don't have a nonprofit that applies for MC Gibbs campaigns for presidio, unfortunately.

And then the other one, the historic structures, most um things like the communities grants that were available through Panetta's office.

I believe those were not for museums.

They they do them for libraries and other centers, but they don't do them for museums.

So that's I don't know if there's a any leeway on something like that.

So that one was just was not available through federal appropriation.

And then the National Park Service, they were um their large grant was Save America's treasures, and those were sites that were on the um anything on the national register, and you could apply for it.

Those grants have been removed by the federal government, but the current administration has canceled all of those, so there's no funding for that.

That's the type of grant that did the roof and work at the first theater.

So that was done through Save America's treasures.

So I was just to say there's not a lot of um grants that that do on the like on physical infrastructure as much, unless it's like private fundraising of that.

Another reason to have a museums um what were we talking about um foundation Monterey Museums Foundation that's uh uh 501c3 so we can use it uh to uh get people to donate right and that is the thing so like the the library has a friends and foundation which is a separate organization they do raise funds they do they are actually the ones that put forth the project for the Monterey County gives proposals and so that we got I think $91,000 last year for general operating support for library programs services and collections and so with that just there are other things but you do have to have a a 501c3 with the board of directors and bylaws and have an agreement with the city and everything like that which we just don't have at this time.

We've used the old Monterey Foundation on occasion is that something we could that's a possibility um you know we do that for the Fourth of July in Old Monterey Business Association unfortunately there's some downsides to that because even though we're just a pass through organization our our normal revenues way under 5000 but when we start collecting money for OMBA and Colton Hall it goes way above 5000 even though we have about the same amount of money but the reporting goes ridiculous but it is something to consider I mean I could sit down with you and Brian and go over that and bring it up to our board I know we've talked about that before and when we went to the nonprofit attorney that's what she said or we went to our city attorney she said rather than going through all that thing with the state reporting and everything else try to hook on to a local nonprofit association life would be a lot easier.

Yeah.

What about using the Library Foundation is there a way to uh I've forgotten the right word but to earmark uh a certain certain part of the funds that are coming into it for this for a special project or is that too complicated um it's unfortunately it's not in their bylaws of what they're what their what their role is on there so that's where you have to run in there about like okay what that's the thing about like what sites are you involved in investing in because then if if you donate to a you know to a foundation and then the foundation decides I'm gonna give money to another organization that can get really messy.

So that's that's the other part that's where we want to make sure that I would just say you know if it became a if if the organization was a Monterey Public Library and museums friends and foundation which is even longer term it was a longer term they would have to update you know when the recruiting board members when they're doing their bylaws and who they're serving and then it would be available but it's not currently okay.

So is there anything like is that going to be simpler than starting our own Monterey Museums foundation.

Simpler I don't I don't think so I I would just say the other part to think of is that our museums are quite unique in my opinion and what I what I the reason I say that is because we have Pacific Biological laboratories which is interest of people that are really into marine biology and John Steinbeck.

We've got people that are California history and interested in Colton Hall and early America and then we also have people that are veterans quite often.

I mean, there's overlap, right?

But there's people that are like I served in Ford Ord or I had grandfather served in the Presidio of Monterey, they were in the Calvary and we get these people that are really interested in the Presidio Monterey Museum.

Some of those people aren't even here in California.

They come here to visit and they say, like, I want to visit here, go to Slote Monument.

And that's to say I feel like ours are so diverse because we just have different interests.

You know, there's there's different interests in our community about so many layers of history that there is one part where it's like, you know, it could be something regarding like you know, museums or historic whatever it would be called, and but even with that, they'd have to really shape their messaging, like donate towards you know, saving the legacy of John Steinbeck and Ed Ricketts and Kennery Rowe one quarter, and then the next quarter is did you know about the founding of California here in Alta California?

It's it's so it's so vast.

Quick question about the Fitch service revolver.

How is it currently stored and displayed?

It is in a in the archive of Monterey History and Art Association is not on display.

Okay, it's not ours either.

Right now, so it's it's still in it's still in Monterey History and Art Association storage, and they have a climate controlled storage that they have over at the Stanton Center, but they don't have it on display.

So there it's just not easily portable.

No, it okay.

Any of the questions?

Nope.

Yeah, do you need a motion?

No, no, not on none on this, but thanks for the feedback, and I can connect back after I hear more on this too.

Okay, that sounds good.

Any information reports or staff comments?

Staff comments.

Um I'll just staff comments.

I can just mention if you guys did not see the flags at Colton Hall.

Um, we'll have them on uh I believe 4th of July.

We may be open limited just because of how busy it gets about 11 to 3, I think is the current plan.

We'll have Colson Hall open, but all throughout the month of July, go and visit and take a look at the different historic flags that we have on display from John Fremont, the 31star United States flag and early Mexican flag.

Um, we'll be there this Saturday.

Yes, okay, great, yeah.

So we've got that up there, and it's was um we're really happy to have those up there in time for America 250 and to just highlight some of how California influenced a lot of this area in my through Monterey, and then as I mentioned earlier, we got the hundred thousand dollars for the granito mural.

That's fifty thousand dollars towards removal, fifty thousand dollars towards installation, and I currently do not have an updated plan of when and everything because what they're looking at the bid came in um from the the company, which I felt was way too high, and because it's a um, I don't want to put it out there because I feel like we need to have uh we need to either put it out for bid or do it internally.

We're gonna have some further discussions, and we want other people if they put it in a bid as a competitive bid out there for it, but it is a large cost, but I'm very happy to get the the additional funding to help remove the the tiles.

Most likely I think we're gonna do it after car week because there's gonna we don't want to do all of the you know removal, and then if it extends into car week and that's the main avenue for uh service personnel is coming through that back right next to that wall, that could be really a problem, you know, getting in there because that's one of the largest revenue generators right there coming in there.

So we don't want to mess with that right now, so that'd be $50,000 this year for removal, $50,000 for um reinstallation, and the plan is to put in some kind of another information plaque about Guillermo Granito and like how do you learn more about the history of Monterey and just something informational on that wall.

So that was coming up there.

So we're taking all the tiles off.

They're gonna take off all the tiles because they did a test, they took off the first couple, then they did a test, and there's no way to know exactly which ones were put on really well and which ones were not, and so to out of abundance of caution, it's to just take off all of it and look at the best way to reinstall it all together properly.

Other than that, I don't know if um also if Melissa, if you have any comments on anything.

All right, yeah, okay.

Okay, any commissioner comments?

Nothing from my hands.

I have a comment.

I would like to thank you for your being chair for the last year.

I think you did a great job.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Brand new, and it was kind of a shock.

It's been fun.

I've enjoyed it.

Thank you so much.

Wow.

Um, I thought you were joking.

Um nope, just thank you.

Also, for the music series.

It's great to get that back.

Very happy to have that.

Yeah.

I would certainly second that comment.

Thank you.

Monique, I'll join.

I echo the sentiments.

Did your subcommittee have anything to report?

We really don't.

We're um we're kind of stalled at the moment with the Monterey Angels.

Just we were trying to maybe do something with Fourth July, and that it just wasn't gonna work out with the flag display going on and whatnot.

So we'll keep trying.

And then the other thing is I'm curious as to when we might see that public art policy come back.

That one in the public art, thanks for the question.

So that I asked um Ariana, who was working on that to connect back.

We our meeting with the Monterey County Arts Council got postponed twice, and we want to meet with them before we go forward.

We just met with uh community development director Kim Cole last week again to kind of go over the project to get questions and clarifications, and then we're gonna bring it back to our city attorney.

We're gonna submit it to our city attorney, and then I don't know how long that will take.

The city attorney will review the policy to look at the legal language on that.

Then we could bring that back for review.

So hopefully, um Ariana should be working on submitting that to our city attorney, I believe, in the next two weeks.

So I that should be this calendar year.

My hope was actually have the policy to council, you know, but I think it's being delayed based on kind of getting all the feedback and meetings rescheduling and scheduling, but that should be coming in this year.

Anything else?

Okay, our next meeting will be August the sixth.

Yeah.

So with that, I shall adjourn the meeting.

Okay.

Yeah.