And with that, we will open up for public comments.

Yes, you can.

I'll just quickly call roll and make the announcements.

So Councilmember Garcia.

Here.

And Mayor Williamson.

Here.

And public comment and participation information for this meeting is provided on the agenda, which is online at Monterey.gov slash agendas.

In-person attendees, please keep your electronic devices muted to prevent audio interference.

And thank you for participating in your city government.

Thanks, Tony Time.

Okay.

We will now open up for public comment.

Online.

Okay.

So yes, then on item.

So we'll we'll open up board committee and commission interviews and then we'll open up the public comments on that portion.

So please, yes.

Just to clarify, this would be on um Kimberly Turgan's application.

Oh, so we're gonna start.

Sorry, I apologize.

Yes.

Okay, okay.

Reverse.

It's another early still, so we're good.

We're gonna work through this.

Um, Kim, why don't you come on up and then let's see.

Can I steal these from you?

Do you have you have them electronically?

Okay.

We're gonna get there.

We're gonna get there.

Um okay, give me one second here.

Let me let me like try to get together a little bit better.

Do you need to copy what I might?

That'd be great.

Oh, we're good then.

We're good.

Yep.

Okay.

Um, which is Kim.

And so I will pass it to Councilmember Garcia to kick us off with the interview.

All right.

Good morning.

I'm so sorry to interrupt, but if you could scoot closer to the microphone, please, then we'll be able to hear you on Zoom.

Thank you.

What would we do without Clementine?

I know.

Yeah.

Is that better?

I think it should be.

Yes.

Thanks.

I don't buy it.

So well, thank you for being here today and for your interest in serving the community through one of our um city uh one of the city of Monterey's boards, commissions and committees.

Uh my name is Gino Garcia.

I'm the vice mayor.

I'm here with our mayor Tyler Williamson.

We truly appreciate the time and thought you've put into applying and your willingness to contribute uh to the civic life of Monterey.

This is a public meeting, and we'll be conducting brief interviews with each applicant.

Each interview will last about 15 minutes, and we have uh six questions we'd like to ask, and those are the ones uh listed there in front of you.

Um to help us uh stay on schedule and make sure we cover everything.

We'd appreciate it if your uh responses uh keep your your responses succinct and focused.

So I'll pass it over to our mayor.

All right, with that, I have the first question.

How did you first hear about this volunteer opportunity and why do you think you should be chosen to serve on this committee?

Um well, we lived in Monterey for about seven years now, and um my husband is an architect and was on the planning commission when we lived in uh marina, and then um when we moved to Monterey.

Um I especially became interested in being becoming involved in the arts um and um have an architecture and design background myself and so ended up on the architectural review committee um on the last round and um just uh still have uh quite a bit of interest in the arts and and with that committee um being disbanded.

And just uh still have uh quite a bit of interest in the arts and and with that committee um being disbanded, um, thought it might be a nice time to move over to something a little more um arts related.

Okay, thank you for that.

Can you share one volunteer experience and how it affected you?

What did you learn from it and how might that experience shape your approach if selected?

Um so over the years I've been on some different boards.

I've been on um the board of um Spectre Dance, I've been on um uh the National Association of a Contractor's Um Board.

Obviously, I've been on the architectural review committee.

One thing I would say that um has become um especially important for the architectural review committee is um the ability to um compromise.

Um, you know, we uh a lot of our um a lot of the um the uh presentations or or come issues that came up to us had to do with views um throughout the city, um various neighbors.

Um, and so that um, although quite challenging at times, people get very emotional um about their homes and things like a view of the ocean um and neighborhood.

Um so that just became especially important to really try and find the best um the best compromise possible um for all the parties at hand.

Awesome.

Okay, with that I'll do the next question.

Have you ever attended any of the meetings for the board, commission, or committee you are applying for?

That I have not.

Okay.

And then as a follow-up, what aspects of the committee's work interest you most?

Um, you know, certainly the arts, as I mentioned.

Um, you know, I have an arts background as well, and um it's really my passion, uh, especially with children.

Um, I think it's just such a it can be such a healing and um a really wonderful way to bring the community together.

And so that's really part of why those the arts and um culture um of the city are important to me.

And I I should have um mentioned this uh earlier for the public.

Uh we are interviewing Kimberly Turgan uh from District One, and she has applied to the uh Monterey Cultural Arts Commission.

Um so next question each board or commission has a regular meeting schedule.

Um does this schedule allow you still to commit to attending these meetings consistently and uh MCAC meets first Thursday of each month at 4 p.m.

Yes.

Um actually I think the uh the meetings of a first Thursday probably work a little bit better for me for the architecture review committee.

I do travel a decent amount for work, um, but am most often home by Thursday evenings and Fridays.

I do spend most of my time working from home um in Monterey.

So I wouldn't be about the Bay Area as often.

So that actually works quite well for me.

Thank you.

All right.

These boards and commissions often bring together residents with different viewpoints.

Can you share how you approach collaboration and respectful discussion when opinions differ?

Yeah, I do think it is um important to remain respectful.

Um, and everybody um going back to the ARC um with um neighbors who maybe get pretty passionate about things.

Um it is really nice just to um, you know, understand that everybody's a person, everybody has a point of view, and um, you know, like I said, try and find that common ground as as best you can.

Not everybody's gonna be happy every time, um, but you just have to do your best to navigate through um those opinions and try and find a common ground.

Uh what are unique perspective, skills, experiences do you think you would bring to this committee?

And what would you hope to accomplish during your term if appointed?

Um I um I mentioned children and arts.

Um, we have three children.

Um they go to Monterey Bay Charter School, or the older ones went there and the the youngest one is there now.

Um, and that is um something that I really value in that school is um is a lot of their um incorporating art and um different aspects into the learning.

Um so that is something that I would hope to incorporate in that in, you know, and and have part of that committee um or bring to that table.

Um I have a passion for art.

I I've been an artist.

I will be an artist when I retire from my day job.

Um, and so just being able to share that with um with the public and um trying to find activities perhaps that you know would involve the the uh community.

art and um different aspects into the learning um so that is something that i would hope to incorporate in that in you know and and have part of that committee um or bring to that table um i have a passion for art i i've been an artist i will be an artist when i retire from my day job um and so just being able to share that with um with the public and um trying to find activities perhaps that you know would involve the the uh community um i'm especially passionate about the first theater um and being involved in that so really um just being able to share that with uh with the public I think is what what um is important to me i would ask a completely unrelated question what is your medium of choice you know um i've done lots of different things i've painted i've done ceramics i've done work with paper i've done printmaking so i don't know that i have one of choice um i bake i i love decorating you know like cupcakes um i've done kids parties that are just crazy off the off the charts um and so really it's kind of anything you know to me as long as i'm creating whether it's something i'm cooking or baking or like actually making something to me it's all creative and i think it's just um it's such a wonderful outlet um thank you for that yeah yeah sure um i'll go ahead and close us out uh thank you very much for your time and for your interest in serving the city of monterey we truly appreciate the effort you made to be here and your willingness to contribute to the community city staff will be following up with you after we complete all interviews which is uh your you're it so our plan is to announce the appointments and selections at the November 18th City Council meeting so thank you again and wishing you all the best thank you so much thank you a wonderful day you too okay with that we will move on to item two which is subcommittee deliberations um so what I'm thinking Gino is we start with HPC maybe we just like rotate through um like who starts so maybe we oh sorry let me let's go back to public comment and actually I didn't take public comment on the interview part did I I did okay okay okay let's take public comment and I don't know two so sorry all right so if I can get the higherness hello can you hear me okay yes yeah all right um my name's Elizabeth Yannish I'm a citizen here in Monterey and um it's a pleasure for me to be here this morning uh pride and commitment trust and courage and I am really proud to be here today to witness the last three days of these deliberations these interviews that have been set up as a new city governance ordinance um that allows the public to be here and witness your process so um as a community citizen I do not take lightly the fact that I am able to be here today and talk for you um on uh the importance of including the citizens in these city processes as they go forward it is a new city precedent established by councilwoman rash and validated by the city's encouragement to bring the public into this process so thank you very much um I think it I'm proud of my city for this that they're doing this and um believe that in many ways we can open these doors again for other future events um that where the public can be present um courage it takes a lot of courage I think for change to happen and when we open the doors for such events as this where this citizenry is part of the process we validate the partnership that this that the citizens have with this city that we are part of your work and it is our job to also be witness and present for the process because without us you know uh we don't have a strong uh three-legged table that we all need to do our jobs from and it's my job I feel to be present here and um to speak on behalf of perhaps other citizens uh who can't be here at 8 30 in the morning who are maybe off to work or maybe can't make a Zoom but I do believe that I'm not alone in um validating um this openness for for meeting and I think it takes courage from the citizenry or for the the candidates who come forward and open themselves to public to speak about themselves their passions and their skill sets because I learn more as uh a resident about the fabric of my community I've met

But I do believe that I'm not alone in um validating um this openness for for meeting.

And I think it takes courage from the citizenry or for the the candidates who come forward and open theirselves to public to speak about themselves, their passions, and their skill sets, because I learn more as uh a resident about the fabric of my community.

I've met in this last three days of being here, I've met people I had no idea the wealth we have in our community of people who want to be a part of this um governance.

So I'm I'm really encouraged that um I mean I just think it takes courage for them to do this um these kinds of interviews, and then finally trust, trust is part of our partnership.

And when you allow us here, you allow us to be um to grow our partnership in a strong way, strengthen our city in this way for um more uh meetings like this where they can open up for citizenry and for you to understand um the role that we play in strengthening our city governing.

So um so with that I I close and thank you for your attention.

Thanks.

Good morning.

Uh Tom Raleigh.

I'm president of the Fisherman's Flats Homeowners and Residents Association.

Um, we had two meetings this year in which our representative on the NCIP did not show up at our meetings to give a report.

We nominated our association in April, an alternate.

We voted.

Her name is Diane Solomonny.

She's a longtime resident of Monterey.

She used to live on Pacific Street in the corner of Martin.

She's been our been on our neighborhood for over 10 years.

She's a long-standing citizen, very well qualified to speak on issues broad broadly for the whole community.

It's been very disappointing that not to have good representation from our existing rep who is not as a president, has been not keeping me informed on what the NCIP.

I've had to watch the meetings on Comcast.

So it's very important that the people that are appointed have support from the neighborhood.

And formerly, our former alternate did not have does not have did not have time and had to resign since April.

This NCIP has had many, many tough issues discussing Diane could have helped with those discussions.

Her knowledge and her experience in Monterey was bypassed because she was not appointed, because the city's procedures for appointing people were awkward.

I'd like to suggest to you if this happens again, where appointment and a procedures for appointing members of committees needs to be expedited as much as budget issues, as much as all the other issues you're facing.

It's just as important.

And it's good to see that November 18th, we'll finally have an alternate from our area.

We are 153 houses, 48 units in the PUD in Monterey Woods.

We're approximately 200 units of housing in Monterey.

We have not been totally representative with an effective way, as far as I'm concerned.

And the NCIP, there's very important issues before the NCIP.

I watched them on TV.

I was on the NCIP for over 30 years.

So I'm aware of how important that committee is.

So that's something I want to do is congratulate you and finally getting to the end of the road since April is when we nominated and voted to have Diane be our alternate NCIP rep.

And thank you for recognizing, and I understand she's the only alternate candidate right now.

And one of the things you need to look at, the old way of appointing representatives for the NCIP worked.

So you need to maybe look at the way the NCIP reps are appointed.

There were never all these vacancies that you've had like here.

And the other thing is NCIP has a backlog of projects.

And one of the things that experience they're not lack of experience, we at one time had two city reps on the NCIP staff.

And that's how we avoided a backlog, like the huge backlog, millions of dollars that we have today.

So I congratulate you and finally getting to the end of the road on getting our alternate appointed from our area of Monterey.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Do we have anybody on Zoom?

Yep.

So let me let's I apologize.

There's one more in the chamber.

Anybody else in the chamber want to speak on public comment?

Okay, so we have one more and then we'll go to the caller on Zoom.

Hi, I'm Aylin Phillip.

I'm one of the applicants for the museum and cultural board.

I just wanted to take a chance um in person to say thank you for this opportunity to serve my local community and my home Monterey, which I'm so passionate about.

So just keep it short and sweet.

Thank you.

For it.

Thank you.

All right.

With that, we'll go to our Zoom caller.

Tom, it's all you.

Good morning, everybody.

I just want to have a lot of positive things to say.

First, thank you very much to the mayor and council member for taking time out of your busy days to be uh here at the city council chambers.

Um going through the process of interviewing all these very um civically active individuals.

I'm I'm very encouraged to see all of these uh civic minded people step forward to volunteer for the various boards, committees, and commissions.

It's it's a big uh it's a big commitment for everybody, and it's just very encouraging to see that uh that there are these people throughout our community who are willing to give them themselves.

And uh lastly, I'll just say that I agree 100% with what Ms.

Yannish stated.

Uh having these meetings in public and allowing the public the opportunity to view how things are done, I think is a really good positive step.

Uh, you know, a lot of people probably don't tune in, but that's okay.

They can always go to the recorded videos and then look back at them if they if they want to.

I think it just makes everything a lot more transparent, and I really do uh appreciate you uh taking this step.

Thank you very much and have a great day.

Thank you, Tom.

All right, with that, we'll go ahead and close public comment on the item.

Um so um as far as process, you know, what I was thinking is um we could go through each of the seats and throw who we each think the selectees should be to fill those vacancies.

Um so my thought is that maybe we alternate who goes first.

So if you want to start, we can maybe start with HPC and uh and then work work our way from there.

Yeah, that sounds good.

Um actually I haven't looked at the entire agenda.

Um should we or could we um begin with some comments around the process or should we save those for no no please?

Anything you you okay.

Um so I think I'll start with um first the uh acknowledgement and appreciation to staff, Clementine, Linda, uh, for um putting together all the information for these uh interviews, and um the it's information.

I mean, as we um have experienced it's a good number of candidates, so there's a lot of detail that has gone into uh preparation for these um um uh few days of interviews and and now deliberations.

So and and I I think also for me the process felt very um very smooth and and it it went um uh at a good pace.

And I think that's um that that happened because of the amount of preparation that went in beforehand to have these uh interviews take place.

So again, thank you so much for staff for putting in the the work and and all the details so that we can have a more complete picture in terms of uh ultimately making a decision.

Uh I want to thank the uh the public for weighing in.

I know it's uh um smaller group, but yeah, like uh was said, I I think it's important um to at least create the space, right?

Um to have these conversations to have uh this information um visible as much as possible, and then whoever wishes to participate will do so.

Um and uh uh a more um heartfelt acknowledgement also to all the candidates who did come in uh either in person or virtually and uh share a little bit about what they bring to the table and and that for me is uh I think the part that I enjoyed the most even in in 15 minute increments, um it I really enjoyed listening to uh their responses and their enthusiasm, uh excitement uh uh be a part of um you know the the fabric of our community.

So um it's not easy sitting in front of a group um and uh and trying to come up with uh uh a good response, right?

So that um eventually you know you get the uh the position.

So I I commend folks for doing that.

And I think also um there was uh uh a more uh intentional part to um not only create the space, but make sure that the space created was comfortable for our candidates, because um these aren't paid roles, these are volunteer roles, these are roles that uh we want to uh encourage folks not only now but into the future to be a part of, right?

We we want folks to feel comfortable coming and knowing that um, yes, we have our titles, but at the end of the day, and and I think first and foremost, we are also residents of the city of Monterey.

So we are we're acting as as equals and and we we want to make sure that the candidates feel feel that as well.

And I think having this set up here, you know, it's it's still a little intimidating, I think, because again, you're responding in front of the public, but um I I really appreciate staff looking at the setup as well, um, because we also could have been sitting up in the dais, and but that creates a certain uh distance.

All that to say, right, that um I I really appreciate the efforts to to also make folks feel uh comfortable and at ease in in responding.

Um and I just want to uh share um uh overall um a point about um community engagement and and offering the um the opportunity um to again for folks to serve in our communities.

We're in and uh I'll use me language because this is really where how I formulate my um logic and my and and the way that I'm formulating decisions.

Um for me uh first and foremost, what I look for is the enthusiasm to be involved.

That to me is really um the the driver for any of these sports and commissions.

Great if you have experience uh or some kind of background that informs uh the decisions that will be made during the the tenure there.

Um but hey, if you're just interested in being involved, hey, let's let's sign you up because that's the energy that I think we need to be um harnessing.

Will the candidate in their tenure uh perform to 150% or to 100% or 25%, who knows.

But as long as we're offering the opportunity for participation, I think that's really the the main goal here.

And um we're talking about also being a part of boards and commissions that could uh serve as a conduit towards advocacy, right?

More direct advocacy for projects for whatever it is that the board and commission uh reviews.

But let's also not forget that this is one conduit, right?

So that if you know something is not happening the way that our community um feels it should be happening, I know there was mention of NCIP.

Um there are also other methods of advocating for those very projects for uh for things to to happen in different ways outside of those boards and commissions, right?

We um at least I um always try to encourage um you know our residents to communicate directly with either staff or or uh the rest of the council, uh even outside of these boards, because that's that's how things happen, right?

That communication, uh those communication channels should always be maintained and and uh nurtured.

Um and that also will help, I think the progress of each board and commission.

So uh a little bit about process and then I'll wrap it up.

Um so a lot of uh awesome uh candidates.

Um and in some instances, um, because some candidates applied to several or multiple uh boards and commissions.

Um I had to make the decision, and I'm assuming the same for uh our mayor here, but I'm not gonna speak for him.

Um I had to make the decision of where I would place that candidate, but in doing that, um that might also eliminate opportunities not opportunity, but eliminate the the then number of candidates that we have for the other board, if that makes sense.

So um it's uh it's a little bit of a movement to try to figure out what's the best placement, not only in terms of what the candidate brings to the table, but also uh uh in terms of the number of spots that we have uh available um you know to uh to appoint.

Um so yeah, looking forward to what this final list looks like.

So thank you so much for time.

Um thank you, uh Vice Mayor, for um helping to set up some of the framework.

And I think that's helpful for the public to be able to understand where we're coming from as it relates to making our selections.

So um I I think a lot of ways actually similar similarly, um, you know, it's kind of like uh in a rook's cube a little bit and trying to match it up and create space for um as many people as possible to step forward and participate.

So if somebody applied for three seats, but one of those seats, one other person applied for, I think I would almost want to try to give preference to the person that only applied for that one seat and then let that let that person that applied for three maybe go to one of those other two seats.

Um, and I think the most important thing I think does go back to um how um Gino phrased it, which is um the level of enthusiasm, but I I would just say I think I didn't see anybody that sat in this seat or called in on the Zoom over the last week that didn't have some level of enthusiasm towards wanting to serve, and it does say a lot about somebody being able to come here and sit in the hot seat.

So um, I just give tremendous gratitude towards those individuals.

Um yeah, so I think that's a little bit about where my mindset is.

Oh, and I I will throw out one other thing, which is gonna be, I think uh a touching point that I think we'll um probably end up having more discussion on.

Um, but because the council majority previously identified the preference of limiting terms for boards, commissions, and committees, similarly to the council um term limits.

Um, I use that as a defining measure towards selecting as well.

So if somebody's already served on a board commission or committee for 12 years, um, my preference would be not to have them continue serving, even though I'm very grateful and have tremendous gratitude for their service to our community.

So just to be consistent with where my vote was in that discussion and what the policy is going to be moving forward in the city, I figured it's probably best to create space for those new voices.

So yeah, with that, I will um I'll pass it back to you, Councilman Garcia.

All right, thank you.

So first we'll start with uh HPC.

And um the candidates um, and and again, these are uh three seats that need to be filled.

So the candidates that um I selected on my end are um Kathy Collum.

Linda Rath and Juan Rodriguez.

Mine are the same.

Um, I'll go ahead and start with uh so I think if we're consistent, I think we're probably good to just continue moving forward.

Yep.

Um measure P measure S.

There's one seat available.

And um my preference on this one is Thomas Bruno.

Same.

Okay.

Uh MCAC, there are four seats.

This is where it starts getting interesting.

Um so actually let me update here because I mismarked one.

Um so I have um Maylin.

I have Monique.

Uh Kimberly and Bill.

Bill.

Sorry, Bill.

Um, so this is our first divergence.

Um I selected Kathy as opposed to Bill, and and it goes back to the point that I was just making.

Bill has served limit time.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to get in in the middle of a sentence.

I can wait.

No, no, you're good.

You're good.

Um, I I believe you already said you were both interested in Ms.

Collum for HPC.

That's correct.

She would not be able to serve on both HPC and MCAC.

Okay.

And thank you for clarifying that because there are some seats, right?

That where that would be possible.

Correct.

It's the appeals boards and the measure PNS committee where they can also serve on other boards.

Okay.

So given that, and and I'm gonna try to clarify for the public at least, um, where my brain's gonna go here.

So part of the council term limit policy um ordinance is if an incumbent runs, but nobody else in the community runs, then that person can still put their name forward and they can fill the seat.

Um, so similarly, we match that to the board's commissions and committee policy.

Um, so given that situation, um, I'm I'm I'm match Gino's um preference there.

Um, so then back to me for parks and rec commission.

There's two seats available.

And my I'm so sorry to interrupt again.

Um we did have someone just come in and bring to my attention that it looks like we had an error on the district for Julieta Garib, and she's actually district four, not three.

We need to double check that.

Um, but that is what I was just informed.

And so I'm sorry for if we made any error there.

No worries, no worries.

It doesn't um at least from what I can see, it doesn't impact where I was gonna go with this.

Uh so for my two for parks and rec, I would say Sydney Crampton and Julieta.

Same.

All right.

So planning commission.

Uh we have three seats.

Uh Eric Palmer.

Gabe Sanders.

And Dave Stoker.

Okay.

I agree with Eric Palmer and Dave Stoker.

I'm going to be honest.

I I struggled with this one probably the most.

This happens to be the one that we have the most applicants to, not surprisingly.

A lot of people want to be on the planning commission.

I struggled in particular around two individuals.

Between Gabe and Justin Polly.

And I know that we have lost that on the ARC on the planning commission.

And as we're looking at merging the two, I just wanted to make sure that we didn't lose that expertise.

On the planning commission.

And if I recall correctly, Clementine, I apologize for putting you on the spot here.

That is putting me on the spot, but that would have been good information to have.

Hang on one second.

And I think when we were discussing this, just to kind of fill the void here a little bit.

I think when we were discussing the merger of the planning commission and the ARC, I think where the conversation left was to have a preference towards two architects on the planning commission, not necessarily a guarantee.

So Peter Silva and Terry Latasa are both architects.

Oh, okay.

Well, thank you for that context because uh that that's something I didn't uh really consider.

Um but it sounds um like it it would be pretty important to have that as well.

So and I apologize because I for some reason I thought that that we didn't have two um architects, so I can be mood revealed.

I mean, honestly, like clearly I'm I'm I am I'm a little bit torn on that third seat.

Um but given the updated information, I think that I could I could be comfortable with with Gabe.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, and this is one of those um uh challenging uh um choices as well because each of them applied only for planning commission.

Um and I would provide one additional clarification, uh please.

You first okay.

I was just gonna provide one additional piece of clarification, which Mike Brassfield is the incumbent in this seat.

Um, and so this is another area for me where the council policy would come into place with boards, commissions, committee term limits.

He's already served on the planning commission for 12 years, so that would in my space create opportunity for a new voice to represent in that in that area.

And I just wanted to briefly clarify that even um just only because you mentioned that planning commission is the only thing they both selected that you aren't limited to who you recommend based on what they checked off.

True, yeah.

Thank you.

Okay.

Well, uh I think I think it's reasonable context here.

Um I'm okay with going with Justin.

And then perhaps Gabe might be interested in um uh once we're in the end of this process, see if there are any openings, see if maybe you'd be interested in any other board.

So love it.

Okay, so I think we're good with that.

Um now we're to the NCIP seats.

Um so for Skyline, I went with Taylor Deinhart.

Same.

I think the next one is Del Monty Beach.

I'll let you start with that one.

Uh for Del Monty Beach.

I selected uh George McNeely.

Same.

Okay.

The next one is Deer Flats.

And for Deer Flats, I went with David Overton.

Uh same.

Oak Grove is O'Grove.

Uh I have Ilse.

Same.

Okay.

Next one is Glenwood Circle.

There's only one.

So Amanda.

And she was great, by the way.

So I'm not belittling her her putting her name for it because she was wonderful and she is wonderful.

I know her personally.

Um Amanda Priest.

Um next would be Fisherman Blatt.

Um Diane.

Same.

And the last is Del Monty Grove, Laguna Grande, Joseph.

Yep.

Same.

Awesome.

Okay.

Well, um, oh, please.

I think you may have skipped wait, or did I no, you didn't.

Sorry.

You got them all.

Sorry about that.

Oh, thanks for checking.

Like Pokemon.

Gotta catch them all.

Um, sorry, that was probably a nerd comment right there.

Um, so I I also want to, as we conclude here, um, give a lot of gratitude to our staff.

Um particularly as we are having this conversation around um trying to merge boards, commissions, and committees together.

Um, I don't think folks in the public recognize how much um capacity of our staff that that takes.

And when we have um a small team to do a lot of work for a full service city, it's very taxing on them.

And then that can impact um the work in other spaces in which we're as residents expecting at the highest level.

Um, and so um for us to transition to this space of creating a whole new system process um in a way that's expanded beyond what was even previous before clo Mayor Clyde um proposed changing it to what it was from where we just came from.

Um I think it's great.

I think it's very much needed.

I'm I I I support transparency.

And one of the things that I I um particularly thankful for is the opportunity to create deeper relationships within the public.

Um so you all that are paying attention may have heard from somebody that you maybe otherwise wouldn't have heard of because they express something about um their desire to want to serve the city in a way that stroke a chord with you, and that could create an opportunity for you all to work together and help create and do good things in our community.

So um I'm particularly thankful for it.

Um and so anyways, I just want wanted to thank staff because I know that this is um uh an extra an extra load um uh uh on top of them.

And they just did an impeccable job uh at supporting us.

Clearly, she kept me on track.

Clementine kept me on track throughout today.

So um I have not had coffee yet, and um, and so thank you, Clementine.

Um for for your leadership on this.

Um and thank you to the public for for participating and being here and and sitting through this, and thank you, Councilman Garcia for um taking this first venture with me as we transition to this new model.

So um I look forward to it and congrats to all of the nominees.

Again, it'll go in front of the council at our next council meeting, which is on November 18th.

And um, I'm hopeful for a uh an an agreeable uh uh outcome to to the recommendations.

So um you uh you mentioned something that made me think also that for our staff, they've again done a great job in setting this up.

Uh and for them, um it continues, right?

Because now that we have uh a recommended pool now, yeah.

So continuing to move uh all that information forward.

So thank you, acknowledging that as well.

And yeah, congrats to everyone and thank you, Mayor, for uh an awesome process.

Awesome meeting adjourned.