I think we're all ready when you guys are.

Okay, I guess.

Sorry.

I think there's a city or something.

Yeah, definitely.

Call rolling.

Ready?

And there is no clock.

It is 6 31.

So you want to call the order?

Yes, please.

So for the August 27th meeting of the bicycle patest and advisory commission, like to call us to order and get a roll call, please.

Member Bonte?

Member Stone?

Here.

Member Honk?

Here.

Chair Terry.

Um Jerry Burton.

Advice Chair Azica's well.

Okay, thank you.

So moving to our first item.

Um we've uh no one finished business.

Um we are uh looking for oral communications from the public for uh addressing topics not on the agenda.

Um do we have any members of the public uh wishing to address us this time on Zoom?

Yes, I have there was somebody here.

Okay, we'll we'll take the in-person.

Okay, go ahead.

Okay, so we'll go ahead with uh start with in-person then.

Three minutes, right?

Yes, three minutes.

Hi, I'd like to introduce myself.

My name is Eugene Cordero.

I'm uh eighteen-year resident here in Mountain View.

I work at San Jose State in meteorology and climate science.

So I'm a climate scientist, care about transportation emissions related to climate change and very supportive of bike uh design infrastructure to make it safer and easier for me and my neighbors in the community to cycle around.

I've kind of three points to make.

Um the first is you know, we live in Silicon Valley, the center of innovation, and I look forward to seeing that innovation in our transportation network.

So um I want to encourage BPAC and I want to encourage staff to kind of dig deeper into developing what I think would be the more of the kind of infrastructure that we'd be proud of, showing our colleagues in Europe and Asia that we can effectively design transportation networks that make people from all ranges feel comfortable cycling.

Um kind of brings me to my next point.

So that's about innovation.

Second point is a story about my neighbor, Ronith Bryan, who was a council member and a mayor here in Mountain View.

One day Renee said to me, Mountain View has always been a bicycle-friendly city, always.

And it doesn't feel like a friendly place to ride.

She probably hasn't ridden on um middle field in an evening or on a weekend when the cars are in the bike lane.

She hasn't written on uh shoreline to go over to Google ever, going over the overpass.

Um she hasn't ridden on uh on shoreline and El Camino.

Uh where you know, bike lane ends in your your stuff.

Um so I actually want to invite staff, especially council members and staff to go riding with us to see what it feels like to ride a bicycle.

And I know some of the staff do, but I don't think they all do because if they did, they wouldn't design what they've been designing for two decades, because that is not a comfortable way to move around.

And uh, so the invitations are gonna come to staff.

We're gonna ask you to come ride with us so you can see what it feels like.

My last point is uh going back to the innovation uh you're gonna be discussing Viramonte today.

I would like to see what the initial design plans were from the consultant, because that consultant has a very good reputation of doing good design, and not that Miramante isn't a huge improvement, because it is.

That's a that's a real tough area right now, but I wonder how we got to the plans that we're looking at today.

And it didn't seem at least I couldn't find on the website any reference to the original designs given by the consultant who got paid 116k.

So I'd like to be able to see that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other members of the public in the room would like to make a comment?

Item is not on the agenda.

Okay, seeing none, can we go to Zoom?

Uh I believe I unmuted you, Henry Witfeld.

Are you able to speak?

So share it, see.

You're muted.

I can't hear you.

Hello.

Yes, there it is.

Um give me one second to start my timer.

And please start.

Hello, can you hear me?

Yes.

I can't hear you.

I'm sorry.

Um, I don't know what to do.

We can hear you later.

Wave.

It's okay.

I'm trying to hear.

Yeah, your microphones are working.

Um there are people online.

Can anybody else online raise a hand if you can hear us just to confirm?

Okay, great.

So Henry, it seems to be on your side that you can't hear us.

Hello, Henry, are you still there?

Oh, he left.

Okay.

Um any other members of the public on Zoom wishing a comment at this point.

No.

Okay.

Um I think we should proceed.

Perhaps we can re-insert uh Mr.

Whitfield if uh he's able to come back and connect correctly, that we can uh interact with him.

Um but uh at this point that includes uh oral communications from members of the public on non-agenda items.

So moving on to item number four, our consent calendar.

Um moving on to the next item, which I believe is approval of the minutes.

Which is on the consent calendar.

Um so at this point, unless there is a motion to pull an item for the consent calendar, um, like to go ahead and call for a vote to accept the meeting minutes as submitted.

I am going to pull the minutes.

Um that's well, it've got some precise the way we do the consent anyways, but I am going to pull the minutes uh since there is something there is at least one thing I wanted to correct in the um let's see what else do we have on the uh sorry there's the towel.

What should so the remaining item on the consent calendar is the um what's referred to as tower the work plan?

Um are there any motions to pull that item um separate discussion, or can we go ahead and I'll I'll make a motion to uh approve the remainder of the consent calendar, which is the 2025 to 26 BPAC tinted of agenda list.

Okay, second that's second.

So calling for a vote, all in favor?

Aye, okay, unanimous, thank you.

Okay, moving back then to um the uh meeting um minutes.

First, can we make sure we do public comment on the meeting minutes?

Okay, or anything on the consent I can see.

So yes, um, so um excuse me.

Let's go forward with the meeting minutes.

Uh any public comment in the room or comments on the meeting minutes from the last um uh BPAC meeting.

Nothing online, nothing virtual.

Seeing no one in the room, informed that there's no one online.

Like to go to clarifying questions from committee members about uh the minutes or comments thereof.

Yeah, it's comments so on two of the items.

The motions appeared correct in the contents and the vote, but the person who moved it in the second votes either incorrect or swapped to meet um based on my review of both, especially based on normal notes from the meeting and then from uh reviewing checking the video to make sure that I my notes were correct, and based on that on item six point one, um it's the motion was seconded by member Bonta, not Member Stone.

And item 6.2, the minutes say Kuzmo slash stone for the motion, which implies that I made it, but member Stone is the one that made the motion and I seconded it.

Um I yeah, and since motions are the main thing, I want to make sure I corrected the minutes.

I wanted to make sure we call this one out.

Um, I don't know if other people want to just go ahead with that correction, or I sincerized not everyone will have carefully reviewed the uh.

That's because you were recused.

Well on one item, but one apparently has second bit, so uh oh yeah, the yeah, six point, I don't remember which one is six point one six points.

Okay, so I guess the discussion or is there a motion to uh update the minutes as suggested, and or any objections to doing so.

Can you clarify?

I'm sorry, for six one, you were saying that the motion was by I yeah, I was not concerned about who had made the motion, which suggests that was correct.

Okay.

Um we go back and I just want to make sure I get your comments.

Yeah, yeah.

So for 6.1, it's that currently it says Cuzmal slash stone, it should say Kuzmo slash Bonte.

And for 6.2, it currently says Kuzmo slash stone, and it should say stone slash cuzmal.

The contents of the motion and the votes were correct.

Thank you for that clarification.

Um, yeah.

And I guess I'll I'll move that election.

Move that we accept the minutes with that correction.

Is there a second?

I mean, I I don't think any of the rest of us remember I can second based on trust.

I think we'll confirm in the report.

We'll confirm.

Make sure that it is the cycle.

Okay.

Okay.

So there's a motion to accept the minutes with the suggested corrections.

And staff to verify.

And staff to verify.

I think we're ready to call for a vote.

All in favor.

I guess I should abstain as well.

We have co-abstain on the half of a minutes to provide.

So motion passes.

Yeah, I'm zero phone.

Excuse me.

This coming.

Yes.

Reviewing that reminded me that it might be good for motions when we read out the vote.

We say who made and second them because I went and checked the video and I was like, oh, this is really confusing.

So I'll try to call that out then.

Yeah.

Um, so um we are done with the items on the consent calendar and including number of minutes now.

That does allow us to move forward to um our first item, which is our uh new business, which is the item 6.1.

Uh active transportation collision report.

And I mean, we have members of the police department here to provide an update.

Okay, thank you for having us.

Thank you for inviting me back.

I really appreciate that.

Um, Brandon forwarded me several inquiries from the committee, and uh majority of them were related to e-bikes.

And so I brought in Officer Hammond with me today, and he is a patrol officer, but he also has a collateral assignment with our bike patrol.

And he is very knowledgeable on e-bikes, and so I'm gonna turn this portion of the presentation over to him so he can uh provide some education on the different types of bikes and municipal codes uh applicable.

You guys prefer to stay seated here or in the middle.

What do you guys whatever you're comfortable with?

Okay, I'll say this is typical, but you're allowed to stand.

Okay.

Hopefully, some of you guys will recognize me.

I've been with the city since January of 2002.

I did 10 years on motors.

I've been on the bike team for over 10 years as well.

I'm a bicycle instructor.

Uh, hopefully you guys have seen me on the trail and around.

Um, my primary focus right now is patrol.

So uh I work day shift Monday through Thursday.

So if you guys are out and about sometime around then in the trails and around the downtown area, hopefully you'll see me on my bicycle riding around.

Pretty distinctive.

We'll be training five more so that um we will hopefully have a lot more people wearing this shirt soon.

Uh today's presentation is gonna be on e-bikes uh with the change in technology and the application of electric to um just about any device you can think of, it gets very confusing on how does the vehicle code um define this device and how is the vehicle code limiting the use of the device, and that changed recently is about five years ago, which we'll go in.

You can go to the next slide, please.

So when you look at these devices behind me, do you know exactly what the vehicle code calls them?

Are they bicycles, e-bicycles, off-highway vehicles?

Are they pedestrian?

Electric scooters, what are they?

We're gonna define that for you.

Next slide, please.

So the reason this is important to the police department is because of the extra hazards it poses to the users and the people around them.

What we've seen in the studies is that someone on a bicycle versus someone on an e-bike um is a lot less likely to be injured.

So the e-bike is up to 2.8 times more likely to end up in the hospital on the crashes.

Um and a lot of that is going to be similar to the motorcycle crashes.

We're seeing broken bones, internal injuries.

Uh, some of these uh there's a lot of different factors that come into play, but some of them could be the characteristics of the e-bike, it's heavier, it doesn't uh handle as well as a traditional bicycle.

Also, the people writing them are not as experienced for um, for instance, the kids may not be obeying all the traffic rules, um, and they may not know some of the traffic rules.

In addition to that, they're wearing more protective gear.

If you think about bicyclists and especially the kids going around that you guys see, probably on the trail and downtown, they don't look like the motorcycle here.

Uh, next slide, please.

So um the vehicle code is gonna define uh and I'm gonna give you just uh an overview.

So it's very easy to figure out what an e-bike is, it's got to have pedals.

If it doesn't have pedals, it's not going to meet the definition.

The second thing is it's going to be limited to 750 watt motor.

If the motor is over that, it does not meet the definition.

When you get those two things qualified, then it goes into three different classes.

Next.

The first class and the second class are very similar to bicycles and where you can use them and how the vehicle code applies.

You don't need licenses for them.

You um, if you're over the age limit, you don't have to wear a helmet under the age limit.

Of course, you still do.

Um, and you can use them almost anywhere.

You can use a regular bicycle.

The first class is going to be a pedal assist only, and it's limited to 20 miles an hour.

After 20 miles an hour, the electric assist has to be removed from the bicycle.

Next, class two is still limited to 20, and it's still limited to the uh 750 motor, but you can now have a throttle on the bike.

This is the only one that's allowed to have a throttle.

Next.

Class three is where everything changes.

Class three, you no longer get a throttle, and you have to uh you can go up to 28 miles an hour.

And this is one of the biggest reasons for the change.

Once you hit this class three, you're still limited to the same wattage, 750, but now you have to be 16 years older, and regardless of age, you must wear a bicycle helmet.

Next, we're also gonna talk about the differences on where you can use these uh different bicycles to identify them.

The manufacturer is required to have the sticker on it, has to be that font, and it has to be in a conspicuous spot.

It has to say what class it is, what's the top speed and the wattage.

However, these stickers are easily purchased online.

Next, these are uh a cheat sheet here that shows you the different bicycles, the requirements, and the areas you can use them.

So if you notice our bicycles on the top for comparison, anybody can write it, doesn't matter.

If you're under 17, you have to wear a helmet.

Our next type one and two are almost identical to that.

The type three is where stuff changes.

All of a sudden you notice your bike lanes on the right side.

You cannot use a type three in a class one or a class four bike lane.

We're gonna define those for you in a second, and you'll see it's very similar to your moped moped, also has the same age restriction as 16, and you cannot use them in a type one or type four bike lane.

Next, these are your bike lanes.

So if you look up at the top, type one, that's your shoreline trail, your Stevens Creek Trail.

It's an off highway bike lane.

Type two is very common around here.

Uh that's your lines on the roadway, part of the roadway type three or class three.

Uh, we have a couple around the downtown area, and that's where it's marked, but it doesn't have the separated lines on the lane.

And a class four is the up and coming.

That's what you start seeing.

Um, this particular picture is right in front of Graham.

You're starting to see them down El Camino, and we've got them uh down uh California.

The main thing there on the type four is the barrier.

So go back in your minds to our class three bicycle.

You can't use them in a type four, and you cannot use them on a type one, which is your Stevens Creek Trail type.

Next uh regulations.

So the Stevens Creek Trail says that as long as it's allowed by the vehicle code, you can use these electric devices on the trail.

I just told you limitations for your classes one, two, they're okay.

Three is not.

Um, and then of course, you still have to obey the different types of um vehicle code restrictions on that.

And you'll see that skateboards were allowed to be on there for a one year trial period.

I do not see that being updated.

Uh, next, please.

Uh, through this in uh because moped is gas powered, unless it's electric, electric does not require pedals.

You have to have an M2 license, you have to have a motorcycle helmet, and that's for comparisons for parents so they can see how similar uh non-conforming what they think is a class three is to a moped.

Next, motor driven cycles, the regulations, of course.

Now you step up to helmets and one licensing registration and insurance requirements.

Next, motorized scooters.

A lot of people are shocked by this, they're limited to 15 miles per hour.

You also have to have a driver's license or permit, and a lot of people don't realize the vehicle code strictly regulates these.

Uh, no passengers allowed, and they are not allowed on a sidewalk unless they're crossing the sidewalk, not allowed to go straight down the sidewalk.

Next.

Uh uh, then you have your electric skateboards, and this is what's interesting.

The vehicle code sometimes um is different on the devices based on what legislature was in place when they voted this stuff in.

You'll see the wattage is now a thousand watts.

So they can be more powerful than electric bicycle.

I don't know why.

And they're allowed to go up to 20 miles per hour.

Next, uh gas-powered ones, or steel adagle.

Next.

And these are your personal mobility devices.

Uh shortcut for this is pretty much they're allowed anywhere you can walk.

They are strictly regulated, 750 watts, which is the same as our e-bikes, and they can only go 12.5 miles an hour.

We still have some vehicle code sections that apply.

We can still sign them for an Speed Reckless, and they still have to yield to pedestrians.

Next.

This is the quiz portion where I take parents through and kids to see if the bike conforms.

On this first one, it appears that it does conform because it's 750 and it has a throttle, but you notice the miles per hour does not.

So that's not an e-bike.

Next.

This one also 750 half twist throttle.

32 clearly does not conform.

So it has not an e-bike.

Next.

Uh 6,000 watt.

Remember, our limits only 750.

This bicycle is all over the city.

And yet, people don't realize that top speed, 50 miles an hour, has pedals.

You think it's an e-bike.

That is not an e-bike.

So if it's not an e-bike, what is it?

It's an off-highway vehicle only, and it's required to have a sticker as such and can only be used off highway.

Next.

And this one is just to get people thinking uh 250.

So we're within the wattage, thumb throttle, and miles per hour is only 12.

We're all that looks good, but there are no pedals.

That is not an e-bike.

Next.

This one is currently for sale at Walmart.

And it has a 1000 watt motor.

Remember, we're only limited to 750, 18 miles an hour, half twist throttle.

So clearly the waters puts it over, and there are no pedals.

And you'll see this one out there too.

Next.

Protective gear, you can see motorcyclists have helmets, they have gloves, they have reinforced gear, ankle protection, and yet most people on e-bikes, even though they're going speeds that um would be similar to motorcycle, are not as well protected.

Next.

So what can we do about it?

As the police department, what we do is we target a couple different levels.

Right off the bat, uh education.

So our school resource officers are assigned to each school and they're doing presentations at the school with a slideshow very similar to this, and they're educating the students to begin with.

Then they're going to meet with the parents if we have any violations, and we're also educating staff members of the school of what these devices are and what's in compliance and what is not.

Next, we have enforcement that we can do.

A couple of different code sections up here that talk about helmets, stop signs, red light, all the vehicle code reply applies to these vehicles.

In addition to the actual requirements, um, one of the neat things that the police department has is a live at 25.

So officers can cite somebody that's under the age of 26, and it does not necessarily show up on their driving record as long as they complete the 1125 program.

Um next.

We also have minicodes that we can use for siding.

Um officers might use the Mini code as opposed to vehicle code to keep the point off of somebody's record.

It also might apply to more broad spectrum.

Uh, these this Mini Code 19.54 says that all these vehicle codes can be applied.

And that's um your basic right-aways, your equipment, uh, all the stuff that's straight out of the vehicle code.

Next.

Uh these are some more additional minicodes.

19.55 says you cannot use it in a parking structure.

Uh I think our CVS parking structure down the road, that's where we would enforce that.

Um 38.9 F and H are for parks.

And they say specifically that you um cannot ride on the walkway trail or with any city park or facility with those motorcycle mobile, right?

Bicycle, motorized scooter, all those type of things.

Um, and you notice that your personal mobility devices are okay.

H says that it has to be um a reasonable speed.

So that would be our speeding section.

So if something's unsafe, we can use that meaning code or an unsafe speed.

Next.

Uh things to remember for us.

Um, off highway vehicle code is um 38025.

That covers the off-highway vehicles.

And under that, they can only cross the highway and they can be pushed on the roadway that cannot be written.

So when we encounter somebody that has one of these non-conforming, um that's not an electric bicycle, it's an electric motorcycle.

Then they can still push it, but they cannot ride it.

And then that also defines what a pedestrian is.

Next.

And that's the end.

I don't know if you guys do a question.

Oh, you're gonna take the question.

Oh, yeah, can we take questions?

Are we looking?

Um you have one more presentation.

Yeah.

Do you want to do that?

Sure.

Okay.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I think all of the uh all the inquiries related to e-bikes have been answered.

Uh but I'll just read them out loud so everybody knows uh what uh what was submitted to me through.

So the first inquiry is Los Altos recently passed some e-bike regulations driven, I believe, by LAPD has MVPD looked at adopting similar ones in Mountain View and also work in conjunction with LAPD to have uniform set of rules.

So uh in the last few slides of Officer Hammond, you saw uh all of our municipal codes um that have already been in place for our city.

I'm not sure uh when or why Los Altos what their recent um ordinances were that they recently implemented, but we already have that in our city.

Uh second inquiry is part of the Los Altos push on e-bike policing was the growth of dirt e-bikes that are not street legal.

Is this something MVPD enforces and if so how?

Um also that was answered in Officer Hammond's presentation.

Uh there are several uh vehicle code violations as well as municipal code violations that we can cite for, uh and we also provide education and outreach, especially to um the juvenile community, and we do that uh in coordination with the school district.

Uh question number three: there is a fair amount of vehicles stopping in the bike lanes on El Camino Real.

It looks like it's allowed for certain types of vehicles, such as utilities, trash collection, newspaper and delivery.

Can MVPD confirm that?

Also, does it apply to delivery trucks?

If not, where should these essential deliveries occur on El Camino Real?

Uh the classification of bike lanes that we have on El Camino are class two and class four.

Uh, because of these classifications, uh, it is a no-stopping zone, uh, no parking zone except for designated areas along that route.

And just like with e-bikes, uh, we are continually providing education and enforcement along El Camino Real as well as other areas of the city where we have bike lanes.

Um businesses are encouraged to arrange their drop-offs and pickups in their private parking lots uh in the designated areas along the route or along adjacent streets.

Next.

And number four.

Uh I've seen the bike lanes on ECR blocked by very large construction vehicles on Ringstorf.

Large development ongoing on the Los Altos side or permits required for this type of work and also time restrictions.

Uh yes, permits are required for any large construction project and permits are approved uh by the planning division of the city.

Next question was with the city council having adopted vision zero.

How could the police department at BPAC work together to change culture, processes, infrastructure, and infrastructure to improve public safety and reduce deaths and injuries on the roads?

Uh this press release, which I wasn't able to attach it, but um whoever submitted it uh also submitted a link to I believe Boulder PD's um social media page.

And the social media, I'm sorry, the press release and the social media post showed a strong approach to Vision Zero in Boulder, where PD uh was taking a leadership role.

So vision zero is led by the city's transportation team and to assist in uh vision zero's mission, the police department is continually, I think us being here today is uh part of that collaboration, uh collaborating with transportation and with the BPAC um to eliminate traffic fatalities and injuries on the roadway.

We've provided uh education through warnings, citations, and outreach uh throughout the community um and with the school district and uh we believe that communication and collaboration amongst all the city departments um and with this committee is key to accomplishing uh the goals of vision zero and lastly please discuss whether uh the many uh many bicycle scooter der routing sites placed on each various entrances onto downtown casher street have been enforced or will be enforceable how does a PD feel uh about seeing bikes and scooters pedal on the middle center of capture street and where children and families uh walk freely uh I won't talk about my feelings but I will tell you what we're doing uh PD is currently working with public works as well as the city attorney's office to improve signage in the downtown area to include the appropriate uh violation code and uh we have provided education to patrons uh businesses downtown um during the work week Monday through Friday we have officers assigned specifically to the downtown district and uh one of their goals is to provide education to uh pedestrians as well as bicyclists in the area um and looking for opportunities to educate uh riders of all types of vehicles so that is the end uh this is my contact information um I left it before um but I do oversee uh our patrol one of our patrol teams as well as our traffic unit so if you have any questions uh you can direct that to me and I will help get the answer if I don't know it.

Thank you.

Um so at this point we would go to clarifying questions from the committee about the presentation I believe there would likely some interest change sure um I guess first I touched on the e-bike presentation my impression from what you're saying about both the um nature of the existing municipal codes and um state laws is that it there isn't much additional that for the types of safety issues that you're happening there isn't much additional that you think or that would be valuable to enable making the street safer specifically around e-bikes or e-bike e-bike misuse and that some of the laws like from I know I don't know precisely what happened in Los Altos but I definitely have seen news stories about various California like passing laws which to me naturally it's not duplicative with the state code.

Is the case that you all don't really think there's much that's needed in Mountain View for additional um municipal codes and as such to be able to enforce the state laws that was a long winded uh question.

So just so I'm uh clear on and I'm understanding clearly your question you're asking do we believe that we might need additional code municipal codes in addition to the ones we already have.

At this time I mean I understand the future will change.

Yeah at this time I don't do you see I'm gonna uh if there was any, it'd be more specific to Mountain View.

Overall um the vehicle code's doing a very good job of addressing the issue.

Okay.

And the other thing I'd be curious about is my impression of this is that a lot of the challenges are people being able to get or who are getting like things that aren't e-bikes online, or as you allude to apparently at Walmart um that's I presume not something that the city mountain view is going to be doing much about um is that an accurate impression that that is one of the sources of the problem?

And is it accurate that mountain view is not really going to be doing anything about that directly?

At least as far as the PD is concerned, there might be answer.

Who knows what the city attorney can tell you about?

I don't think we can restrict sale of devices.

Yeah, we we weren't having a control over where they buy it or how they acquire.

But that has been an aspect of the problem.

Yeah, I think the biggest thing that we can do in both our safe routes to school, vision zero, and then with the help of PD is the education.

Because I have to, as a parent, I have to imagine there are a lot of parents that don't want to put their kid on something that's as dangerous as being on a motorcycle without a license and without a helmet because they don't realize that that's the situation.

Um I think if there's anything, maybe there you'll start seeing more things when you buy one of those that comes in your your little instruction manual of warnings, but I don't think that's something that the city can can advocate for at this time.

That's that's my impression.

I'm just making sure that I'm not missing something about what was stated.

Okay, um I this is a question that's a bit specific that I know I submitted through Brandon after uh the the deadline that he provided for you uh officer, and that was on what a recent city council meeting.

I did hear a uh crossing guard for Crittenden giving actually not reason.

This was in June.

It was just my notes of the next time this came up.

Um uh crossing guard for Crittenden say that he had seen some safety issues and it sounded like he felt like he hadn't been able to effectively communicate those up to the police department.

Do you uh realize that this may be throwing this on you at the last minute?

Do you know anything about that specific um thing?

I did see that email um come in after after the fact, but yeah, uh I wasn't there.

I didn't I didn't watch um the recording of that specific city council meeting, but that concern did make it to the PD.

Okay, and I unfortunately am not privy to hit uh his or her original uh report to the police if there was one or if the that was the first uh time they were bringing it to our attention, but it did uh make it our way immediately after the city council and we uh sent our uh patrol and our traffic units uh to monitor that intersection.

Okay, thank you.

I wanted to make sure that that had made it really.

Um and I think yeah, the pencil, yeah.

And thank you.

Are there committee members with questions?

I um yes, uh it was a little unclear to me.

So in class two, as the just the paint kind of bicycling, you can drive a class three e-bike, but it was unclear to me.

Can you also drive a moped or did I misunderstand what you mean?

Can you go uh is it possible to go back up to the um there's probably the fourth slide is to my question is what kinds of devices are allowed in a class two specific?

Let's change it.

No, okay, I'll change it.

All right, um, which one?

Can I keep going, please?

Uh again, again, it's gonna be a gray chart.

Oh, okay.

Right there.

Okay, so specifically is request uh requesting information as to the class two bike lane.

So we'll go over to class two and drop down, and you can see that everything is allowed in that.

Mopeds are allowed in okay, and mopeds do not have a speed limit.

So yes, the mo, and that's exactly the point.

Uh the mopeds are gonna have the requirement of can you go to I'm sorry, can you go forward to the moped screen?

It's gonna be uh forward a little bit more.

It's gonna be a white on the button.

Thank you.

That one right there.

So um the mopeds have to have pedals, or um, obviously if it's election does not, and it's limited to 30 miles an hour on level ground.

Oh, it is okay.

I missed that.

Uh, but are you may not notice?

Do our bicycle lanes have a different speed limit in the speed limit of the road, or is it the same?

That's a good question.

Um, and it depends on what device you're on.

So, for instance, if you're um the speed limit's not going to be in excess of the row that it is.

So, for instance, if you're in a 25 zone, you can't do 30.

Um, but the exact opposite is also true.

If the speed limit, let's say you're going down shoreline is 35 and you have a type two bike lane there, it doesn't mean you can ride a bicycle at 35 in that bike lane.

You're still gonna be limited.

And then there's more regulations as to the slow moving vehicles and where they have to write as well.

Okay, is that in the Muni code or is that in the vehicle code?

Okay, vehicle code.

Well, that that's applying to these bicycles.

If you were pedaling at 35, you're okay.

It's just for the e-bikes, yeah.

No, it's just and I should clarify that um both all those classes or types of e-bikes um have to remove the assistance at those miles per hour.

Doesn't mean that they can't go faster, they can't provide electric assistance over 20.

Yeah, okay.

So you could like turn off the assist when you're going downhill.

Usually it's it's done by the computer and the bike.

Yeah, it's required to be done by the bike in order to.

Yeah, and it is, you're absolutely right.

Yeah, okay.

But we see it uh that a lot of your other devices, your scooter uh scooters and of course the um the skateboards as well.

But of course, you always have the like if they're unsafe, you can cite it for being unsafe no matter what the other that's correct.

Okay.

Uh yeah, I think that's all I had.

Thank you.

It was very informative.

So related to the e-bikes, um, my understanding is that um many of them can be kind of hacked in a way, uh you know, just like a phone, you can unlock it.

Uh and typically to get you know higher speed and and more power.

I mean, I I used to write bubads as a teen, so you know, but we need in France, so let's.

Oh, there we go.

There we go.

It's not a sample now.

You need the helmets even then and uh you know uh some insurance and and registration.

So right anyway.

Uh but um so so how do you go about those?

I mean, it must be very hard to to kind of notice.

I mean, or or to know anything you can do besides education and tell them not to do this, but you know, seems to be uncatchable.

So I can address that if you like.

So the vehicle code also requires um deals with that, it's illegal to change the classification of the bike.

You cannot break it if you will and then use it on the road.

You can do it and use it in uh a private setting, but you can't put it on a roadway.

If you change the setting and it still meets the requirements of another class, then you must relabel it.

So the vehicle we do have those vehicle sections that we can enforce.

Uh you're right, it would be challenging in order to prove that.

Uh, just thinking off the top of my head, if I have somebody going uphill not pedaling, and I've got them on a laser doing 35, that's pretty easy to figure that one out.

I don't care what the sticker on the bike says, uh, because that bike clearly is not in compliance with an e-bike, it's now an off-highway vehicle.

That does it happen or absolutely.

I don't know.

It absolutely does.

But most of the bikes that I've seen aren't the hacked ones, they're sold that way.

I'll go straight to the website and you can see all the the uh stats I showed you for each of the bikes on the the test portion of the presentation are all right off the website.

Sorry.

I just had one question about the mopeds.

I don't know if you can put the slide by.

Um, yeah, this one here.

So um the one on top is similar to the type of mopeds I was writing, you know, way back when in in the days, and and those have pedals.

I mean, so um, you know, because that's the name moped, right?

But you know, pedals so uh so the the what makes it a moped is really because it's um uh it works with a gas versus electric because uh because at least in Europe there are some mopeds like this that are electric.

But we are still considered as mopeds, so because of a uh of the speed and yeah.

So the vehicle code, depending on the the decade that the technology came in to be um popular, I guess we would say in the culture, that decade of legislature is the one that addresses it, and so they have to come up with a definition.

In this case, the moped definition has changed because now we have a new style of moped.

Uh the top uh section you can see it says that it's limited to four gross brake horsepower, and it can do um not more than 30.

And then after that, we come up with the electric one, and electric one says that they don't have to have pedals on it, um, but it's still limited by the same um power.

Um so the vehicle code will change as technology changes, it's usually going to be a little bit behind, and uh some of the conflicting um powers uh requirements as you go across the devices is due to the different uh decades that the devices came into play.

Um, but to answer your question, yes, your traditional moped is gas, and that has to have operable metals in order to still be called a moped.

Otherwise, if they take the pedals off, which is very easy on a moped, it now becomes a motor-driven cycle.

And you need uh a restriction and yeah.

So here's our requirements there.

You have to have an M1 or two, you have to have the helmet and you have to have D and D registration.

You have to have a motorcycle license.

That M1 is the license.

Thank you.

Yeah, sorry.

I've heard that uh you guys do education at schools.

Yes, okay.

How effective are they?

I mean, do the kids do the kids get any sort of material that they just bring home so that they, you know, I mean, how effective have they been is education to the kids so they didn't know what they're doing?

Yeah, you want to.

I can answer that one.

So we don't have, I I don't have statistics with me to really quantify how successful it's been.

I think it's just like any other uh educational campaign we try to do with the kids, you know, we tell them not to use drugs, and some of them do, and some of them don't.

Um, but they to answer your question, we we do have um brochures that the the school has been distributing, the school district has been distributing.

So the parents also give us copy yes, yeah.

One more, yeah.

So I I was the one who has a question about the the changes in in uh Los Altos.

Okay.

And um my my concern there is really um because I I live in Mountain View, but you know, my area um my neighborhood goes to school in Los Altos where half of Los Altos is it's school district, we go to Los Altos uh high school.

Um, and uh it worries me every time there is a difference between uh you know codes, especially affecting kids, right?

Uh, between the two cities, because you know, um, if I go, you know, we have lots of kids who go across the borders uh to go to school or or or just navigating, and and that's you know uh I mean it's really not great if there is one set of enforcements, you know, on one side of the border and another one on the other side.

Uh one example uh I like to quote um is that a springer used to have two different uh speed limits.

Uh one on the Los Altos side it was 25 miles an hour on Mountain View, it was 35.

That was a nightmare.

Uh they finally agreed to put it to 30.

Uh, but you know, that's a type of you know things where you know you may have a kid from Mountain View, knowing, you know, the code and how it's enforced in Mountain View and getting um getting untrapped in a way in those adults.

Um so I I don't know if you plan to to work with Rosaltas to to do this because I think it could benefit our kids.

I answered that enough.

I asked for my next question.

So I believe the controversy in Los Altos is um you know uh just uh hearsay, the number of complaints, and it wasn't well documented.

What uh after education, I believe the city council realized that there are sufficient laws that enforce all of it, which we just heard about.

The only thing they were really missing is sidewalk ordinances in Los Altos.

Mountview already has sidewalk ordinances.

Bikes uh are allowed on sidewalks except where prohibited.

Mountain view has prohibited them downtown.

And I believe Los Altos wants to take a similar approach and will eventually enact and sign for no bikes on sidewalks downtown.

So I think as far as electric bikes and mopeds and bicycles, the ordinances are all the same, and they didn't change or modify any state or county codes.

But that really leads to my question, which is um do we document for the public uh complaints and enforcement actions on e-bikes in any way?

Uh currently no.

Um, include that on our dashboard that we have available for public view.

Yeah, I guess if it seems to be uh growing category, maybe that's worth separating and uh both for complaints and enforcement actions.

But um my next question was also how would you like the public to uh raise which which uh medias or vehicles uh complaints about e-bikes.

Uh there's a variety of ways that you can report incidents to police.

You can do it through uh the city website.

Um if you submit a you can call this a traffic related complaint.

Uh, yeah, ask Mountain View.

Uh that will be directed uh to me uh and my unit.

Uh or you can call if you believe there's an immediate public safety issue, you can call our non-emergency line.

Uh, which I can uh tell you the phone number is uh 650 9036344 is our non-emergency line, or if you believe like you know, somebody is uh riding recklessly and and it's an emergency.

You can also call 911.

So variety of ways.

And my contact information was provided as well.

If it's something that is not urgent, uh and uh you can report uh via email.

Uh, I'm open to that as well.

Thank you.

Um yeah, and I guess I asked the question about the boulder, and what I noticed is they are template on discussing a serious bicycle or pedestrian traffic collision, uh seems they seem to have a template that added, you know, the police department's working cooperative and vision zero and such language, um is is how we if we wanted to pursue something like that, um, to uh you know have templates for you know eventual, assuming there will be one where there's a serious injury or death, um, highlighting the initiative is how would we, you know, I mentioned collaborate and cooperate to to implement something like that.

Yeah, so that post that you sent over was in response to uh an incident, a traffic incident that Boulder was dealing with.

Uh we do issue press releases uh following uh a variety of incidents that may happen in our city.

Um, but I would say if it's going to be specifically related to Vision Zero because this is a uh transportation initiative.

I the initial posts should come from uh the transportation division, and it's something that we can collaborate with them on.

I guess what I was saying for police department press releases um on high injury quarters like a Caminoff, etc.

It would seem that just reminding the public that there is an initiative, the police department's cooperating on it, as Boulder did.

I assume the, you know, the police department issues the press release before, I mean, planning department usually doesn't.

Um, is that's how would we work together to accomplish something like that?

Yeah, uh we have a um a public information officer that handles all of our social media and all of our press releases.

So that's something uh if you have some ideas, uh I'm happy to present them to her and uh see what we could do.

But it would be something that would go through our uh public information officer.

Yeah, because I thought that was interesting and good, you know, kind of leading, it was the only municipality I've seen that.

Yeah, and I also they also seem to be quite educated, and you know, they weren't they were sticking to the facts, they weren't calling it an accident because they didn't know what was an accident, they were just presenting what happened in that stage, and I thought that was just uh skillful approach.

So um thanks for the answer.

I'll try to follow up with that.

Yeah, and we we do our social media uh does have several posts on there related to traffic safety.

Sure, maybe follow us, but yeah, give us a follow and see.

Yeah, like it subscribe.

There's more interest in the press release because the focus on incidents is when people think about things.

Right, and so that's um, I think they okay.

Um for the presentation.

Thank you for having us.

I'm sorry, just there's no one.

I'm sorry, this is something I'm on my head.

Um, yeah, you said on Castro Street.

Uh you guys are doing something on weekdays, right?

So that's a so now on the weekends it's not being done.

It's not being done.

Okay, because a lot of people uh we have you know initially our downtown details started I think two holiday seasons ago because there was an increase in autoburglaries downtown during the holidays, and so we started this special assignment of having officers patrol during uh the high peak times that we were uh seeing crimes being reported.

And it just it evolved into a really successful uh program and we've kept it and we've kept officers downtown during uh our weekday times.

Okay, so having a weekend, I'm sorry, yeah.

On the weekend, yeah.

So weekend seems to be you know pretty busy, and I see a lot of kids uh, you know, a lot of right bicycle riding in with little baby kids, and then they just they go all over the place.

So I guess yeah, consider it.

Yeah.

So on that note, so the resolution that uh was adopted uh during the pandemic that uh prohibited uh bicycle riding, scooters and all that downtown is actually uh exempt for children uh under 10.

So that's part of our cleanup.

Okay, so I think that concludes the clarifying questions on the presentation.

We have um opportunity for public comment.

Are there any members of public in the room wishing to make comments on this item?

Seeing none going to Zoom.

We have two people on Zoom with hands raised.

Um can we I have unmuted you?

Give me one.

Yeah, can you hear me?

Yeah, we can hear you.

Okay, great.

I was very impressed.

This is um much more than I expected.

Um my comments relate more to mixed-use trails, okay.

And I have for years bicycled um actually for a time with my wife on shoreline uh on uh Stevens Creek Trail, which is you know a very very popular, as you know, mixed use trail.

Used to be you could see families with little kids riding their bikes, um and then it just got overrun.

I mean, it is completely overrun.

I was out there today taking a walk, and because my I can't bike right now because I have a torn, but anyway, um I mean I would say at least 50 percent of the bikes going by and especially the e-bikes were in excess of the 15 uh mile per hour speed limit.

So I made I sent a a note to Brian with some good background, it's it's worth reading.

I think for the police department, I did, you know, I spent the time to put it together, but I think it's um there were some really good ideas that um and I really think it's not uh you you're focusing on education with the kids, which is great, but honestly, it's a lot of the adults, and a lot of the adults in my experience have attitude about this.

They just think that you know we're bikers and don't mess with us, and so it's gotten to the point that there are no more kids on Stevens Creek Trail.

Uh my wife will no longer ride.

We're putting her her bike on next door.

Um, and I don't feel safe.

Uh it's just gotten really crazy, and I there's some simple things you can do.

I mean, I think part of the education part with with the adults is to highlight their personal liability if they hurt somebody.

Right.

Now I speak from experience.

I was clipped on Stephen's tree from behind because a guy was on the bridge over Moffat, and there was a couple coming, and I was on the going, they were coming my way and they were I was going the other way.

And this guy couldn't wait, and he flew through and he clipped my handlebars.

I had to be triaged at Stanford.

I didn't report the accident, but I wish I did.

So I think you need to do radar guns out there, have an officer and let the word get out that hey, if you speed, you're gonna get a ticket and do that uh, you know, at random times for about a month, and I think you'd have the problem solved, but I also think you need to post signs that emphasize the personal liability that these bikers have.

Okay.

So I appreciate that you're doing enforcement, but I think you need to ramp it up because people don't take this seriously.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And we have Bruce England who has raised his hand, Bruce.

Hi, uh, you hear me okay?

Yes.

Great.

Uh Bruce England Wisman Station Drive and a former member of BPAC myself, and the reason I mentioned that is a couple comments I have that go back to my days serving on BPAC.

So when um we were talking about the sidewalk ordinances, it was very difficult.

In fact, we had to go through the process twice because we couldn't make our first pass um uh work for others in the city um decision makers.

So we had to, you know, do it again.

But even what we came up with was difficult because we knew that there were going to be all kinds of new devices.

We had what we were looking at at the time, it's like 2017 or so, I guess, 2016, 2017, and you know, we could see the writing on the wall, and yet expecting that people in Mountain View are gonna look at the codes and really pay attention to what differentiates one bike from another is is asking an awful lot.

And also kids will be kids, and kids want the exciting adventure.

I I get that I wrote a moped myself when I was younger.

So I don't know what the solution is, except for education, you know, um working with the kids to help them understand that they could be responsible for a bad accident or an injury or something like that.

As we are gearing towards the active transportation plan, we want to encourage more and more people to get out and walk and bike, and as Henry was pointing out a moment ago, um, people aren't gonna do it if they don't feel safe on the roads and on the trails.

So anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot more what I consider misuse of such bikes on sidewalks and even around other people.

Um and I I guess you know, again, the education the putting it on enforcement is difficult because then it just puts the police in the um position of having to monitor people moving about in the city.

I'm sure they don't like to do that, and people don't like to be ticketed or anything like that.

So it's um, I guess it really comes down to the education.

So um uh there was something else that I wanted to say.

Oh, yes, yes, Lorena.

So I had an email exchange with you about how people can report on Ask Mountain View about issues related to the police, and I think where we left off was it depends, and you won't necessarily get a response through Ask Mountain View, even though the police department is in there as a category, and I have several instances like that where there are open tickets in the system that aren't being responded to, and I don't think that should be on the people in Mountain View to try to figure out whether Ask Mountain View is going to work for police matters or not.

We advocates in the community work very hard to get the near-miss collisions built into the system, and we really would like all of those tickets to be responded to.

Not sure if the solution is there, but I'm just bringing it up with you again.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next, I have April Webster.

Hi, thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

Uh, I wanted to comment on a few things.

Um, the first was on reporting, and I'm not sure if this was covered because I joined um the conversation a little bit late near the end of the presentation, but I'm I'm looking at the, and I have looked before at the transparency dashboard that's available, and it's hard.

There's traffic data and traffic collisions, but it's hard to, I don't see anything specific for bicycling or pedestrian.

And those are the people who are usually the most vulnerable on the street.

And it would be great to see data broken down at a more granular level to see those types of collisions and even just the primary, the most uh primary collision factor when I'm looking through there are four categories, one of which five categories, which two of one is unknown and one is undetermined.

You know, you're looking at three categories of unsafe speed, wrong side of the roadway, and failure to stop.

And at that level of detail, it's really difficult to tease.

I've done a lot of my whole career has been data analysis.

It's really hard to tease apart what's going on, just because you only have the three categories.

It could be broken down, I think, much more, much more detail.

And then also just being able to access spatiotemporal data as well.

Um, you have it's very, very high level at this point.

And so making that available, I I have pulled um, you know, shapefiles and other data on uh crime data um from other jurisdictions in the past, and um it'd be great if we could make that available.

Um, I wanted to ask about or just comment on enforcement as well.

Uh, I know sometimes what we've done in the past is um uh to do instead of traffic calming, we put up signs um indicating what your current speed is and what the speed limit should be on areas where residents have sort of made a report that people are traveling too fast, but those often don't deter people.

Um people see it and note it, but don't actually do anything about it.

It doesn't actually it doesn't change behavior, and if you don't pair it with some sort of enforcement, it's it's really just it comes down to a waste of taxpayer money because it's not impactful.

Um, and so it would be really great to see something going on there to pair if you're going to go that route instead of using something that has been proven through research in the transportation world to be more impactful, like making changes through design to slow people down.

If you want to go the route of um uh speed, you know, having those speed signs, you need to pair it with enforcement, I think.

Um, and then in terms of reporting things, Bruce brought this up, but our the way we have to can send in um input right now, it's not user friendly.

You have to go through a number of steps and it makes it challenging.

And finally, I just want to talk about ECR and bike lanes.

I've there's been no enforcement really of cars parking the lanes.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Um, next we have Deb Henningson.

Hi, Lynn.

Can you hear us?

Hi, yes, thank you.

Can you hear me okay?

Yes.

Awesome.

Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak.

Um, I'm actually here with my husband, um, and I'm gonna make a comment and then he has a question.

Um, and so my comment is kind of echoes what Bruce was saying about education for the children um and their parents, but really what the dangers that I see every day when I'm biking alongside my daughter or on the Stevens Creek Trail on the way to what I'm doing in the morning.

Um, I hate to be ageist about it, but it is high school boys on overpowered e-bikes and they ride in the bike lane and they behave like terrible citizens.

And okay, fine, some of that is to be expected from the stereotype of high school boys.

But I also think, as Bruce was saying, they just don't know.

And I think our the presenter mentioned as well.

They just don't know what the rules of the road are.

And I appreciate that.

Um the city has done things like bike rodeos at the middle school to help uh educate middle schoolers on regular bike safety.

But I think now that we see these strong um indications of where these e-bike trends and the safety trends related to e-bike use is going, that a coordinated and focused campaign at the high schools, Mountain View High School, Los Altos High School, is really important because I just see all kinds of terrible behaviors every day with kids on these e-bikes, passing other kids that are riding regular bikes on the right in the bike lane and uh two kids on a bike, no one's wearing on an e-bike, no one's wearing a helmet, kid on an e-bike, towing a kid on a regular bike, none of them are wearing helmets.

I mean, I see this every day.

So, yes, please educate the children and get the schools involved in the same.

Thank you.

And then over to my husband who had a question.

Yes, hello.

My question is going back to electric skateboards on the Stevens Creek Trail.

And now that the one year test period is over, I couldn't quite tell whether you were saying that skateboards are now allowed or are no longer allowed on the trail.

Like sorry, electric skateboards.

I'd love to hear a bit of a clarification on that.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

And his name is Ben Levitt, just for the record.

Yes.

Thank you.

And we have one last speaker, Jesse Cup.

Hey, how are you back?

Uh yeah.

So this is Jesse.

I think some of you know me.

Um I had a question that maybe the offices there will be able to answer about the um on one of the slides.

There was a question about uh construction vehicles blocking the bike lanes.

Um and someone said our permits required, and the answer is like yes, permits are required.

And I'm like, of course, permits are required.

Um but the do those permits allow them to block the bike lane.

That wasn't answered.

Um I've seen that uh on El Communon reported it when you have like a big cherry picker or something parked in the bike.

Like, okay, there's a clearly marked sign that says no parking anytime.

It doesn't say like unless you're an Uber or a Lyft or a construction vehicle, just says no parking.

But uh, so should I continue reporting?

Um, because I do run into that a lot.

And uh it would be nice to have maybe a shortcut to report that rather than going through all the ask mountain view tree that um people tend to not know about or give up on.

I think like one in ten times I intend to report something I don't.

So I'm like, that's gonna be a hassle.

Um that also happens frequently on middle field with the and um not as bad now, but I've seen it on California and the new protected bike lanes there.

I think the people who live in California are getting more used to it, but there's still parking in the striped off areas that are meant to uh provide a clear line of sight.

So that makes me nervous about you know getting hit when I'm going across um through the protected bike lane and across a curb cut.

And if if cars can't see me, sometimes they turn in and out pretty quickly.

That's happened once where it was like almost hit already.

Yeah.

So hopefully those will be fixed in the permanent version.

Um then the PD also mentioned that there's gonna be five new bike hubs.

So that's awesome.

Um and I want to ask, will they ride in the protected bike lanes on California and El Camino?

Um, just because it's once the bike lane is closed off like that, and you can't easily go out into the through lane to get around obstacles, it becomes even more important uh to keep the bike lane clear.

Um, obstacles in the bike lane just are more dangerous when it's protected bike lane.

That's what it's my experience has been.

I see shopping carts or if there's a car park there or Uber or Lyft or Amazon trucks delivering.

Um, if I report those, you know, 90% of the time uh the car is gone before the cops get there because they're just you know stopping for five minutes or whatever to do delivery.

It's still illegal, but the cops don't catch.

So I want to see those bike cops riding up and down the protected bike lanes and issuing citations as they go.

Right, thank you.

Okay, so concluding public comments on the police department.

Uh, I think we can be quick and wrap through committee comments.

If we could poop our comments together and I'll call on one person at a time and not come back because that might speed us along a little bit.

So I'll go ahead and open while you combine your comments.

Um couple comments on the questions that were answered.

So I believe you do have to have a permit in construction to close a lane.

It's usually quicker to go to code enforcement than the police department to have them uh for if it's an ongoing construction project site, to advise a contractor that they need to have proper signage, uh bike lane closed ahead, bikes may be use full lane, et cetera.

I think it's also in some cities, I'm not sure about Mountain View, but uh certain delivery vehicles can park in the lane of traffic.

I know that's what UPS is now doing on El Camino.

Um it seems very effective and keeps the bike lane open.

Um other vehicles are choosing the bike lane, which is prohibited.

So you know, they're advised to use the private space, the parking lots.

Um, but I think certain cities allow delivery vehicles to stop willing to traffic in certain conditions.

Um so um there are options for not stopping at the bike point.

Um yeah.

And speaking of e-bike, so I I uh taught last year at um I'm in Lauterton high school.

We had a staff member uh killed on their e-bike uh about two days before the end of school.

Um he was also uh assistant uh coach for the freshman football team in that category that is most uh likely to violate uh logical e-bike.

So I think you know uh they got the message, unfortunately.

Um it was a very uh traumatic incident.

Um, but uh you know, getting word out helps.

And I know midpen does use radar guns and does write tickets for e-bikes and lack of helmets.

Um I'm not sure uh jurisdiction on the police department covering Stevens Creek Trail.

Um, but that would be interesting to see because I know um Mid Ben seems to be fairly effective at controlling speeds on their trails and uh um with e-bikes and mountain bikes.

Uh thank you.

Okay, other committee comments.

I can go.

Thank you.

Um first of just the quick clarification from the public comments.

So currently are people allowed to use electric skateboards on the Sing Street Trail.

So I'm not familiar with the exact one year pilot or whatever that was mentioned.

There's I've not been able to find an update.

Right now, in theory, are people not allowed to use the skateboards on the scene street trail?

Or verbiage was that they were allowed for a one-year uh study period.

I have not seen anything remarkable.

And that one year study period is passed.

I haven't seen anything revoking it.

So I don't know.

When I went through all the codes, I have nothing updating that.

Okay.

We don't know the start date, so we don't know the web days.

Um, then in general, uh, with regards to the e-bike stuff, I yeah, I think this information sounds like what I expected to hear, which is good and bad.

Um, but at least it means I wasn't surprised.

It's good to hear that um you're doing education on this stuff.

Um, I do like seeing more people able to get around without a car, which means I like seeing e-bikes, but I also do want to make sure we're not having people basically riding motorcycles about or operating them grossly and safely.

Um, and with that, I it sounds like currently enforcement is being focused on people behaving egregiously, um, which is consistent with what I would hope to hear.

I know that like when I was in high school, it was there was definitely a degree of like, well, I don't want to mistrust like the PD because I'm worried that they're going to start ticketing kids because they roll through a stop sign at three miles an hour on a bike.

Um, and I don't want people to end up with that attitude towards the police department, but also I want there to be clear enforcement about people like evaluating things egregiously.

That sounds roughly consistent with what's being done now, and I hope that's the direction things continue to go or do go.

Um, on non-e-bike things, uh I do continue to like the transparency dashboard.

I think a bit to April Webster's comments.

I do also like if there are good ways to for people to query that data um sort of programmatically.

I don't know that we have that right now.

I think when that originally got presented, some of us requested that at some point in the future.

We'd still love to see that since we do have people who I know would query members of the public might know would make use of it.

And I do I think one of the um BPAC members brought up having um e-bike-related information, the transparency dashboard.

I think that would be helpful to see so you can get a sense of like is this something that is a small but noisy issue in terms of number of complaints?

Is this a something that is everywhere and have some slightly more objective sense than then just what we're anecdotally?

Um, presumably, is it not anecdotes?

And I will I think reiterate some of the comments about cars being parked in the bike lanes on some of these or in uh to uh Jesse Cup's comments about um like in illegal spots aren't in the bike lanes, but maybe like blocking site ones on some of the new uh bike lanes on Alpamino and um California, and I hope to I know it's always I mean it's not the most exciting thing to enforce, I'm sure, but I that that those do form real safety issues, and so I look forward to I I hope those will be able to be enforced and I look forward to having uh uh more of our police department going around on bicycles.

So and thank you both for giving this update.

Do you, James?

Sure, I'll try to group everything.

So uh so on on the e-bike.

Uh uh uh I appreciate the education and so on.

Uh uh, I mean, and maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems to me that the education has to do more about um how to handle the e-bike than on the the rule of the roads type of thing.

So and that's and I think uh a lot of times, you know, uh I think kids don't don't know, you know, uh, you know, they they wind up in traffic at at a pretty high speed and they don't know, you know, they don't have a code because they don't have uh they are probably not even in age to to get their permits learners permits or things like this.

So so uh my suggestion would be to try to do something like uh like a rule of the road kind of lights.

I mean, maybe like a uh CT, you know, kind of uh feedback riding license or something like this, like you know, not not you know, not an official things, but something that would you know uh get you know the basics, you know, you stop here, you you know, you you cannot impede, you know, uh you know you cannot encroach or or you know the the type of things that they they just don't know.

Um I think there were some comments about um uh Steven's Creek and Trail and I think that's definitely becoming an issue uh of that's it's just for bikes, really and and uh and and and bikes going fast.

I mean, I I wrote it this morning and I was most skipped a few times, and I'm and I'm writing for for exercise, so I'm not running very slow necessarily and and and people just don't care.

And these are not kids, I mean these are you know tech bros going to work, so uh you know uh and and they just don't show any respect.

So uh that's for this.

And then uh two to my point earlier about Los Altos, I think it's uh whatever they've done, you know, um, you know, make sure that you're in sync with what we've done because we have kids going in between and and we don't want them to be untrapped into oh, but and VPD told us it was okay, and and you know, and then um being high about that.

So but but thanks so for um sharing all that information that was definitely useful, so thank you.

Member Stone, any comments?

Uh I guess.

Yeah, dash downloading from the dashboard.

I think we've mentioned this before, definitely would be useful.

Uh, if they all shape files and stuff like that.

Uh and yeah, in general, yeah.

We want more people out on whatever micro mobility uh device happens to just make sure that they're doing it in the safe way, and uh thanks for what you're doing.

That's why.

Yeah, just uh very quick.

Um I know the education is very important for me too.

I think uh I'm not sure whether you guys do this, but the other ordinances, what the ordinances are to the kids when they're you know when they're giving them education, and so you know, even the California vehicle code, but then the mountain View code, you know, what would so that they have it's in some sort of like an idea of uh what they need to follow.

And they do.

I think Mountain View does have a local bicycle code, right?

That they have to follow.

And so it's the education.

I'm probably you guys already do this, but it education contains that and the brochure brochure also, you know, goes to the parents with that information.

I think that would that would be okay I think we've concluded item six point one.

Thank you very much for your attendance we appreciate the update and look forward to the next one.

I didn't notice the picture of the bicycle just for you.

Do we want to do a five minute or do you want to keep going?

One more item but it could go long so I just don't know if you want to do a uh let's take a five minute adjournment now being seven fifty two back at seven fifty eight right I'm gonna stop the recording that was my seven minutes.

Start again that was a dry run.

All right apologies sorry about that we good thumbs up as you are saying okay well they say it takes three times to hear something so um okay so quick introductions again my name is Alison Boyer I am the assistant public works director for the transportation and business services.

I have with me today Ben Pacha who is our acting transportation manager and Priori Amid who is our transportation planner for the project.

All right and we are here tonight again to discuss um for or we are asking BPAC to review and recommend the preferred alternative concept plan for Miramonte Avenue Complete Street Study Project 2331 from El Camino Real to Castro Maryland Street which we refer to as segment A to the Council Transportation Committee.

Miramonte has been split into three segments.

We have segment A, B, and C.

Currently, segment B is under design and constructed construction is expected to be in shortly.

Segments A and C are included in the study we are discussing tonight.

And this was funded with 2016 VTA measure B funds.

Okay, go to the next slide.

And then just quickly some background.

Last year we kicked off the study with data collection and outreach round one.

Since then, we have completed preliminary concept design, data analysis, outreach round two, and have developed a preferred alternative.

Today we are here to receive your feedback on the preferred alternative, and we will be taking this to CTC on Tuesday for their feedback as well.

Based on BPAC and CTC's feedback, we will bring the final report to council in uh fall of 2025 for approval.

With that, I'm gonna pass off to Rudy.

Um, thank you, everyone.

Uh, this is Pirati Ahmed, and I will uh go through the rest of the presentation.

So a little bit of the background for this study.

The goal of the study is to improve safety, accessibility, and connectivity, and increased trans active transportation options along this corridor, which supports city's vision zero policy, which aims to achieve zero fatal collision by 2030, and City's Safe Frost to School Program since this corridor provides access to St.

Joseph, Graham Middle School, and VOB Elementary School.

We kicked up the study last fall with outreach round one and data collection.

For outreach round one, we conducted bike and walk audit, interactive map survey, and uh hosted an open house.

And through the outreach, we received valuable feedback and improvement ideas for this area.

In parallel, we also conducted a thorough data collection, which included traffic counts, speed analysis, traffic collisions, parking counts, and field observation.

Based on the data analysis, staff kicked off outreach round two during the summer.

During this round, staff sought feedback on uh parking room proposed parking removal, lane reduction from two travel lane to one travel lane, and bicycle and pedestrian facilities along this corridor.

For outreach round two, we have taken these elements for public feedback.

Public outreach events included we host we had a citywide survey, pop-ups at nearby schools, and for notification for outreach, we had done, we had sent postcards to residents, car flyer, yard sign, light pole flyers, and social media post.

Through the outreach, we heard support for protected bikeways and pedestrian safety features.

In the survey that is still open, the results shows over 55% support for the plan, an additional 19% would support more protected bikeway.

Author respondents that were no are not sure, responded that preserving lane would be the reason of not supporting it.

One key element of this plan is on-street parking removal proposal, which is based on seven-day data collection over different time around the clock.

And this proposed parking removal map was shared for feedback with nearby schools and corridor residents.

This map include three yellow circles that you see on the screen where it shows major where majority of the parking is removed.

As you can see, majority of the parking is removed on the west side of the street where we found minimal parking demand and more parking demand was east side due to multifamily homes.

The second element of the preferred alternative is travel lane reduction from two lane to one lane.

This proposal is based on low traffic volume and delay along this corridor.

The analysis was done through using highway capacity manual 2000 methodology.

Approximately for parking removal feedback, we found that through our survey, approximately 64% of survey respondents supported proposed parking and additional parking removal.

Serve respondents also identified additional treatments which include new and improved pedestrian crossings, traffic calming measures and increased street tree landscaping and improved street lighting.

This plan includes this element through mid-block crossing with the rectangle rapid flashing beacon signs, traffic calming measure through travel lane reduction and barrier and parking protected bikeway.

This plan also reserves space for green street for future funding if future funding becomes available.

Now to the preferred concept plan.

So as you can see, this section goes from El Camino to south of Park Drive, where you can see on the west side of the street is class four barrier protected bikeway, and majority of the side of the street has parking protected bikeway.

We also have midblock crossing at park drive with RRFB and green dashed line through the conflict zones.

Similar configuration, majority of this area has class four barrier protected bikeway, and the other side has parking protected bikeway with high visibility crossing at Sonia and mid-block crossing with RRFB at Trophy, and green dashed line through the conflict zones.

And the last stretch is from Trophy to Maryland with class four barrier protected bikeway and parking protected bikeway, high visibility crosswalk, and green dashed line through the conflict zones.

To zoom in a bit more, this one shows the same stretches with specific cross-section.

So this one shows 11 for travel lane where buffer and by bike lane with vary as design uh goes on for this study.

Similar to here, this goes from park drive to Sonia, and uh vehicle lane will be um 11 feet with buffer and bike lane to vary and will be determined during design phase.

The last stretch is from trophy to castor uh from Rinkin to Castro, and this one also shows um vehicle lane to be 11 feet and buffer and bike lane to be determined at the design phase.

Um, an alternative to consider where we'll be keeping where it'll be preserving more parking spaces by keeping the existing bike lane configuration.

So the bike lane will be along the curb.

Uh so there will be parking along the curb, bike lane next to it, buffer, and then travel lane.

The trade-off here is that this configuration will preserve eight existing parking spaces compared to the preferred alternative.

Uh but, but it will increase conflict points between drivers and bicyclists.

The safer option would be to have it as a parking protected bikeway.

And according to FHWA, Federal Highway Administration, uh protected bikeway will reduce vehicle to bike conflict by 53%, which is shown in the previous slide.

So here we are.

Today we are receiving your feedback.

Um, as Allison mentioned earlier, we will be going to CTC next week.

And uh based on your feedback today and CTC, we'll be bringing the final report to council in fall of this year.

And this will be ready for design by end of the year.

Um, so the recommendation is review and recommend the preferred alternative concept for Miramonte Avenue complete street study from El Camino to Castro/Maryland Street to City Transportation Committee.

All time.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh that concludes the presentation.

So we move next to committee clarifying questions.

Um would anyone like to kick off with some questions about the presentation?

Um, yeah, so first of all, thanks for answering all the questions, but we had asked ahead.

And I may go back to one or two, but uh but my first question is um you mentioned that we have to pick the preferred alternative, but I don't think we've been shown anything but one alternative.

So uh in the packets.

So I I don't know if you could maybe spend more time on.

So the two alternatives are a parking protected bike lane on that west side or parking along the curve.

As a reminder, this project is budgeted as part of our paving projects, right?

So the adopted budget for this project is tied to our paving budget.

So the scope for this was predominantly a striping and paving project.

So the the west side would be the right side on this.

Yes, I'm sorry, yeah.

On the right side of on the right side of your screen, yes, that is correct.

It's always basically the northbound travel.

Okay, and it would be only from Haspa Drive to Marin Castro, and then it would switch, I guess.

And then it goes there's not um parking.

Yeah, then it will switch to parking protected parking, then it would switch to parking protected.

Yes, yes.

I guess that's Sonya or or um it will switch back in harpster.

I can I can pull this one up.

So, it's true.

Harpster.

Yeah, it will switch between harpster and Sonia, like along here.

So that this will remain the same.

Okay, yeah.

So it will pick up going towards Sonia, as you can see.

That's just there's not parking there, that's just driveway.

Space from hamster to Sonya going northbound, or might turn around now.

They're they're going this way, and then the next when it is cross once it's one, yeah, once it is cross zombie.

Okay, yeah.

Um, here it'll be parking protected and park.

Right.

And then I had another question that's a follow-up from the questions I have.

I had noticed that some um some streets, you know, that are uh cross streets essentially of Miramonte.

Some of them have marked crossings, others don't, and uh uh I understand that you you showed only the markings of the one by that markings, but it doesn't answer my question, which is why is it that we have marked crosswalks and not marked crosswalks?

I mean, I uh in general it would be nice to be consistent, but it's yeah.

So there's specific guidelines for when to mark and unmark a crosswalk, and we'll continue to follow those as we move into design.

Um I mean in this case the streets were exactly the same.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm just curious.

Yeah, we have so the um M U T C D has guidance as well as the California vehicle code for when to mark a crosswalk.

So that will all be followed during the design.

Okay phase.

I mean, right now we're following the code as as we understand it and as it was designed at the time, and as we move with the traffic engineer, stamping and signing the plans, they know.

Well, part of the plan would be to review this and make it upgrade to to the latest plan.

Yes, we will follow.

Yeah, we will make sure that all from where I see it.

I see no reason.

Yes, on a rama reason, so uh, I have more questions, but I want to share the phone.

So, can you um questions?

Basically, it's the same this the new one that you well the one is basically the one on like California or the parking protected bike.

Is that what the question?

Yes, it would follow a similar pattern.

The other side would be the barrier protected that you see a little bit on El Camino.

Yeah.

How do you how are you guys gonna say if you know if the council asks you about you know, I just got an email about uh about someone making a left turn and then that kind of an accident might happen.

I mean, and it's possible because it if there's a blockage view, or the other side if the car coming from uh from a driveway from the old house, you know, and then the it's so close to the the bicycle.

I mean, you guys gonna explain that or just matter of uh matter of that time goes on and seeing what to do as the time goes on, or yeah.

Yeah, I mean, some of it is there's medians through uh Miramonty, so it would be hard to do a left turn.

I'm not specific, I'm not as familiar with the the email you just saw.

So um, I don't I can't speak to that case specifically, but you'll notice that Miramonti has a media in that whole way.

So traffic will have to turn right, not left.

So that's good in that sense.

Um, as far as crossing driveways, um, one of the things that Prey noted was that we would keep eight parking stalls if we were to do the parking next to the curb versus away from the curb, right?

And part of that is because we have to allow for sight distance.

So you lose parking so that people can see around.

Um a lot of it is going to be learned, like right next to the driveway.

So so you'll see how there's just more space unless um not on this, it would be further down right on the like for this driveway.

Do you can where it was my mouse?

Uh but like this driveway, you'll see if if there wasn't any, there would be more parking, but we are taking it off.

And I think as you go to design, you will see more kind of a clear distance that you need to see on the side to turn right.

Yeah, because the existing condition is it's two lanes, yes, with parking.

So visibility is very bad.

Yeah.

If you're trying to come up because you have five feet over the hood of the car or whatever for visibility, so it's substantially increased and so I think that uh, you know, again, it's education of how the flow works, but in general, you have longer sight lines with this design, yeah.

That is the example, and as Priori mentioned, the the FHWA does say that that is a safer condition for collisions and bicyclists leading us back to our vision zero, right?

That is what we're we're we're looking for, and that's what's leading us.

Are there fine questions?

Yeah, um right.

Uh first this is not actually a strong opinion yet on this, but I just do want to make sure I understand.

So there are as part of this project, it's sort of because it's just restricting.

There's not like meant to be major intersection adjustments.

Is the reason that uh I asked the the clarified questions about why there weren't any changes to the lane configurations at sort of the Maryland Castro and Mary Monte intersection?

Um is I don't I don't know what we would choose for the lane configuration there if we were starting this whole project from scratch, but it will, but it does all it does look a bit odd to have that like widen out to a bunch of lanes and then narrow off again immediately after.

Is that specifically because like the traffic signals themselves mean it would be awkward to have any other lane configuration, or is this just pure inertia?

Um are you just speaking this area?

Yeah, like the well, yeah, that I look at that.

That looks a bit, it looks a bit weird to me to see that.

So I I wonder.

So this is us having two projects going at the same time.

Okay, so this is segment B was in design as we were planning segment A, and we didn't know where they were gonna land with B, so we needed to have something, and as the CIP team moves into design, they will make sure that they coordinate appropriately and we get the right uh configuration there.

So we might end up with changes to lane configuration for this intersection.

I would say you most definitely will end up with changes to that lane configuration.

Yeah, we don't we don't we are not imagining this to be this long, you know, marching into.

It looked a bit weird, I wasn't sure what to make of it.

So okay, that that sounds reasonable.

Um the for still on this this part of the map.

So and from earlier, the that's a class two bike lane currently on northbound Miramonte, starting from that intersection.

Is that correct?

Yeah, there is.

Is there a reason that's class two rather than having vertical elements in the buffer?

Oh, right now, in here.

In this in this like design, yeah, right.

That strip has no vertical elements, is my understanding.

We are when when the design team is going to migrate it, we are going to see how early we can put on the vertical element because you're going to have parking protecting.

We are going to have our vertical element over here.

So that is that is to come as part of the merge.

So yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

That helps for understanding.

Um so uh in terms of the parking that it does remain in loading zones.

Right now is so it's just that area in front of that's the school that's a loading zone.

Was there any particular consideration put towards putting loading zones in other locations, or does do have we developed any policies about where we choose to put loading zones or these sorts of things as we restrict parking more at this phase?

Our track traffic team um will explore that.

We have different classes for for loading.

Um, that area.

Oh, the St.

Joseph area, so isn't it more drop-offs on our I mean?

They are using it that way.

That was not how it was intended.

And when we talked to the school, they don't want to encourage that.

They want parents to use the parking lot and not drop off on Miramonti.

They did ask to keep it though for when they do stuff at the parish so that they can unload.

So we did have the conversation with them and try to make sure that we were accommodating their needs, but they they would prefer and we would from a vision zero safe routes to school, prefer that parents are dropping in a parking lot and not on a busy road.

So this this segment doesn't show the loading zone, correct?

Uh it it shows right there next to Sonia.

Um, I don't know where am I not?

The 50-linear feet school loading zone.

Yeah, here.

Oh, okay.

So this this is okay.

So it would be pulling through the paint protected.

No.

Oh no, no, it's the cutout.

Excuse me.

The cutoff is the rest of it.

Yeah.

And so that's and that's why it was placed next to their their parish that they said that's where they would rather have that space.

It's for their functional need than student drop-off.

Um, okay, um, additional questions.

Um, so for uh the the park drive slip lane, I know I made some questions about uh the slip lane itself.

Uh this will end up elements later, but I guess does what if we were to look at any sort of like closing that slip lane in ways similar to how the like Wasatch Drive year six intersection got posted through traffic um in the last year or so?

Is that something that would be is that sort of element at all feasible here, or is that just a separate project entirely?

Likely a separate project when you are vacating public right away.

There's a much longer process.

Okay.

Um doesn't mean it can't be done, but it's not really in the timing of this project.

Okay, thank you.

Can you illustrate anywhere specifically?

So that's from northbound Miramonte at the bottom.

The sort of if you were to go actually keep driving a vehicle straight, you end up in a slip lane onto park drive.

That's the only way to end up turning on to park drive because that other bit is only has a sort of outbound lane in the sense.

At least right now.

I don't know if you could accommodate a right turn onto it from there.

I don't think so.

Um I was looking at it, but you could understand I'm not gonna say that affirmatively without.

I I walked uh like this week and I was like, no, no, it's too narrow.

So yeah, and I I don't know how often people accidentally drive straight at speed into that slip lane.

Um that's actually what I was curious about, but not sure I have great statistics on it.

Um never seen anybody drive there.

Yeah, the zero.

No one drives there.

So uh then in terms of other questions.

Uh for oh, since we're on this view still, the other end of park drive.

I believe at the prior B pack meeting, there's some comments about being able to make uh sort of logical lefts from that area onto north down Maramonte is the reason that I mean, I assume we're just basically not touching that median as part of this project if we can.

Right.

Okay, thank you.

Um and with regards to all these sort of right turns at the intersections, the clarifying comments said that we were leaving sort of a a uh merging zone or uh whatever it was referred to as in front of ahead of each intersection, basically.

Uh can someone remind me what uh guidance that is based off of sort of how we leave like 50-ish feet.

I don't know if that's the actual number um in advance of each intersection, so people can sort of pull out of the traffic lane, merge the bike lane and then make the right turn.

Um so since this is a concept plan, we are really looking into the best practices and the guidance, and one of the documents that we heavily used is Vision Zero Action Plan that was adopted last year, which does show kind of um you know delineators to help you know um do road configuration, and I know our consultant also took a look into NACTO and Astro guidelines for these.

The very these specific details will be will get ironed out more in design.

This is just showing kind of what the layout will be.

What is the bike facility on each of the bound of you know, of Miramonte, but the dash line, the sideline, those will more to come uh this is really meant to be kind of communicating the parking removal, the road diet, and the bike facility.

They'll have a full survey, they'll know how exactly you know how wide it is, where a lot of this is this is a conceptual.

But this would be a good opportunity for us to write input on what we think design.

Sure, right.

Yeah, okay.

Um that was answered, and then the last one is this is sort of for the well actually uh no, this is a common.

I'll probably put the comment section with them.

Okay, uh, go ahead.

Yeah, so I had another batch, I guess.

I don't know.

Um so um you you mentioned that's uh you know, green elements and things like this would be TBDs or or could be different than I understand the the finances and so on, but uh but you you still preserve space for it.

So could you talk about where you foresee it being and and what type?

I mean, yeah.

So the intent was for us not to preclude greening of these streets as as funding or as we determine a policy or how that works out.

So anywhere where you see those big buffers, we could add greening, right?

That's the intent that that the buffers would instead of being striping and vertical delineators could become greening.

So that wouldn't be trees or things like this.

It can be.

Oh, it could be very i mean if funding is available, we yes, you could do all of that, those those greeting projects where you would see the you know curb to curb, us assuming you've got the right width for a tree to grow and and you know succeed, but yes, and the side and the side lines.

Yeah, uh and uh another question has to do with the uh the traffic lights.

I think there is one by uh San Joseph and um I think it's Sonya, and then another one.

Uh so maybe if you can switch to that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, this one here.

What do you have information about the the phases of uh the the light I mean or or things like this?

And I don't have that today, but I can we can get back to you on that.

And and could some phases be changed or things like this.

Uh that would all be evaluated during the design.

The reason I'm asking is that you know that seems to be a good candidate to eliminate right on red, um giving the the low volumes onto and of Sonya and onto the score, uh and it would make things much safer.

So um and I think it's it's a bit similar, I think, with uh Marilyn and Castro.

Um, and uh I mean, there's targetting traffic going in and out of Marin, it's it's pretty much a dead on street, really for four cars.

Um and you know, that's again would be safer if we didn't have you know the things and it would not affect traffic much because there's low uh no traffic.

Um and then um had two more uh questions that build on the clarifications I had um had so uh if you can move to the the part closer to El Camino, uh, you have a slide, yeah.

Yeah, that's one.

So um there there's kind of a um an access road slash multi-use path uh that that goes into Maramonte or things like this.

Um it I mean, because I I was involved with the neighborhood when the it was redesigned as an access road, we kind of manage to make it bike accessible by pushing.

Uh but there is a need to to have trucks and things like this access for maintenance uh for for delivering hot dogs for the football baseball games and so on.

Uh and it looks like it's not uh no, no, we'll be a very great driveway, but it's uh yeah.

Yeah, we will we will open that.

I I think it will it will uh you'll show that gap.

It's currently we are I think our we didn't catch that quite yet.

Yeah, and then I had another uh building on the one of the uh questions I had asked.

Um if you look at the top um, you know, uh that's on park drive, you know, uh at the level of the parking for the the baseball fields, you know, the that's there.

Um there is actually right now a loading uh loading zones and it's really was meant for for the baseball players, you know, parents dropping their kids and and that was the case even before the flood basin, and it made a lot of sense there because kids could walk straight on the field.

Uh but right now they can't uh because you know that's underground.

I mean, so they have to go uh you know all the way there and pretty much wind up where they could have been dropped off in that roundabout uh soccer.

Uh so in practice that's not very used.

So um when I asked the question, but that was the idea to switch to make that loading zone on park.

That's really for baseball, not for the score uh to make it go parking area, uh, and then make the loading zone for for baseball on Biaramonte because it would hopefully make things safer.

So that was the intent path.

So I just wanted to clarify this.

Quick question with the buffer with the buffer there with the green.

This is um I'm talking about the road road going into the cover, I don't even know the street name it.

Uh the one going up there is at the park.

We're having the buffer there, and then with the bike going, is it gonna be easy for the bike to go into you know come out of the buffer and go trying to make a left?

Uh are you laptop there right here?

Yeah, so you so if it's going down.

If you're going to the south, let's go south, and then the car uh the bicycle is trying to go up, and then there's a lot of buffer there's it next to the green.

Okay, yeah, we'll stop right there.

Yeah, and then so if they're uh with uh with those uh you know those paddles, I don't know what those are called called, but there if you're trying the bike over there, you know, so that the bike can make a left, having buffers there and having is that is it easy for a bike to make a left?

Yeah, is it I can answer in current conditions, it depends on traffic.

Um you have to be aggressive to get out in the traffic with the two lakes.

Um but today the safer thing is to to cross the at the crosswalk there and take the the the uh the the multi-use uh path there.

Yeah, uh that's what I do.

No, it does it's basically not smart.

It's no, it's not signaled.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah.

There's your planes.

I mean it's a I don't feel safe walking across the crosswalk right now.

So I don't that's why we get up as I think I'm just uh clarifying the one shown in yellow, or there's a different one.

Yeah, which we will be installing an RRFB.

So that should help with that.

Well also reducing waves, but yeah, yeah.

Um depending on the speed you're going and the traffic, it could be hard to get out in the traffic lane with those short um line of sight kind of merge areas coming out of the bike lane.

You might have to begin it uh just at the beginning of the curve with the longer green dash markings.

So you know you would have to look at that area as the design advances.

Yeah.

People's gonna have to know that too before they cross it.

Yeah, so your second time you'd probably recognize you've got to do that, but if it's your visitor first time, it would probably have to almost stop and wait for traffic to clear.

Do you have more clarifying questions?

Um seeing none.

If we could, um let's go to public comments.

The members of public in the room wish to comment on this item.

Seeing none, can we go to Zoom?

Uh we have April Webster.

Um, my second vehicle.

I need to find my timer.

Okay.

Is it a good deal?

Oh, sorry.

Um, we're trying to get the timer.

Um, here we are.

There we go.

Okay, thank you.

Uh I'm really excited about oh, thanks.

I'm really excited about this project, but I do want to ask the questions uh about a few things.

One is on data transparency, and I've been thinking about this for a while.

Um, in the presentation, Peyote stated that traffic counts, speed analyses, and parking counts were all collected, but um I didn't see those in the the data and the agenda packet.

And I I think this kind of information would be really important.

Um, I'm also curious about the survey and how the proposed parking was um surveyed, what sort of demographic makeup of users were factored into the analysis.

This sort of context is really important.

I've um sat on the ATP, the state ATP funding evaluation committee, and we look at this sort of data when we're deciding if funding should be awarded to a project.

I think this sort of information could be presented um to uh public representatives like committees and councils.

Um I would also be very curious to have this presented.

Um what other sort of measures were considered, like traffic calming measures.

We don't you typically in these projects we only see one or two options.

You know, for example, we're ballboats or roundabouts or other design treatments evaluated.

If they were removed from the short list of options that were presented, why?

Was it cost, timing or something else?

Um just like the other information mentioned this.

I think this is important.

Um, if you were a client building a house, um, for example, you would expect to be shown the different design options, and then read you know what those costs and timing would be, etc.

And then you'd be able to make an informed decision about where your money is going to be spent.

And I think that's you know, in this it in this context of streets, the public's the the customer, the community is the customer, and um uh the council and other elected representatives are making those decisions for us.

So I think in each of these opportunities, every time this is presented, present providing more of this data should be standard.

Um I also wanted to ask ask about trees.

Um, I heard Sarah's mention something about this, um, but I noticed we also typically I haven't seen this in any of our projects, but we don't pull in the, I haven't seen us pulling in the um tree inventory that we have available for the city, and I I think that could be integrated.

Having it separate in another, the biodiversity plan, um, makes it really challenging to have a more holistic design.

And I've already seen this starting to get integrated in other cities.

For example, in Sacramento, I'm on the Franklin Boulevard um complete street project.

The engineer, uh I believe her name is Megan Johnson, um, talked about um doing an analysis to look for shade deserts and to start to fix that because you know, as we all have seen, temperatures are kind of rising, and it's a public safety and a public health issue.

So I would love to see in short more data, more transparency, and the analysis process provided to decision makers.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Next we have Jesse Cup.

Hello.

Um, yeah, I just think it's a good looking project so far.

And I want to um second, the proposal that includes the protected uh bike lane that's separated by parked vehicles.

Um the other one where it was like sidewalk and then um parked vehicles and then a bike lane.

Just um I think it's gonna put people at risk of getting bored.

So um, but it looks like that is kind of the alternative and not really what the staff is proposing.

So hopefully we um just go with the proposal and I think it's good.

Uh I think since the city has done El Camino and California and a similar way, we're gonna learn good lessons in those projects, and Miramante will hopefully be even better for that.

So thank you.

Okay, uh concluding uh comments from members of the public going back uh to collect committee comments.

Go ahead.

I have uh one one question, but I can also re-raise the public member of the public like were other things like bulldozs considered, or because this was mostly a paving project, they were not considered in this.

Yes, so we ex so as I mentioned at the beginning, this included a segment A and a segment C.

Segment A is currently funded as part of our paving project, and that is due to start design now.

So um we were trying to stay on that so that we can do as much with this paving project to get not the best but better right for this this situation and not preclude us from doing changes as we move forward with our bike system, our bike and um pedestrian network and our ATP and everything that's coming.

Segment C does have some more options available.

Unfortunately, segment C does not have any funding at this time, so we have included in there some more um I say atypical for mountain view approaches, some new things.

That being said, without funding, we kind of said this is what we could do if these become a project, if this becomes a project, and we'll continue to explore that.

So that's where you would see more of the roundabouts, the bulb outs.

Um, but but because we're pairing this with the paving project that is already adopted and approved by council.

Um that's that's where this landed.

Uh if we could go to the part of the design that interfaces with Alcabino.

Um, I used to live in Shoreline West, and we were going to bub at the time and I biked this road once and never again.

Um but there are kids who bike it every single day to go to rain.

Uh, the preferred alternative, but they do it anyway.

Um, but anyway, so that makes me think about going south on shoreline there.

When you get into this project area, there is nothing to indicate for the bikes coming from shoreline into Miramonte, uh, where their space is.

And it does look like there is space there to put some like green dashed lines.

So uh that's something I would like to see.

Yeah.

Oh, that's good project.

Thank you.

I had one question about the thumbnail.

So you know, uh, we're supposed to choose between the two alternatives too, right?

That's one decision we have to make.

I really, I'm sorry.

So we do have to choose between the two alternatives.

Yes, we are asking for a recommendation to CTC.

Along with our comments, correct.

Exactly.

Um, so I I move for this.

So first, I think it's a you know it's a good project, and um I'm I'm all for making it better, not necessarily the best uh in my lifetime.

So, uh and I think uh it's also uh a piece of road that's overdue for pavements.

I mean uh uh you know uh there's gravel there every time there's a storm or or rain, you know, we have holes and things like this, and now we bought it and you patch it, but it's like uh that's overdue for this.

So I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely uh grateful that you you consider this, and I don't want to delay it because there is value in just repaving, it's it makes it safer for for everyone.

Um uh I I have um just a few suggestions, I guess, on so first on the alternatives.

I prefer uh to be consistent so that's uh if most of a um that section of uh Miramonte will be uh parking protecting bikes it I think it should be the same everywhere that it's too confusing to to do this and and uh so uh and I have a few suggestions on on on the project the first one is to to make sure that uh we have uh marked crosswalks on all the side streets regardless of why it's a mismatch now uh you know again in the name of consistency so that that's you know uh whatever the reasons if we decide that one street has to have the a mark crosswalk the next one which is really the same should should be the same because that's that's how you make a network right so it's uh to to be consistent um the the second suggestions is one um that I remake here uh is to to um change the parking that's in the curve towards in in on um miramonte uh so pretty much uh uh you know that parking are here to change it to be um a loading zone um and then on on park to use the existing loading zone which is uh more that's on park drive more um towards triple A yeah pretty much on on the the side of the the parking lot there uh this is a loading area right now and and my suggestion would be to make this a parking area uh that will provide us provide the neighborhood and the apartments you know some places to park um because there is nobody living by the by the park so so that that parking is really you know uh from from places that don't have enough parking and and and the likes uh because it would be a wash there the the reason I'm suggesting this is to for safety uh first of all it's safer to park on on park drive than in the curve on Miaramonte because you're gonna have to exit in traffic uh when you do that um also it will improve the visibility because people won't be parked there they would be stopping and and that's one issue you have in in that crosswalk is it it's very difficult to see uh once you have cars parked even you know as far in the park so say we did remove some of that by the crosswalk for that yeah yeah yeah but pretty much whatever is left kind of swap it with with this and I think it should be uh that was there um the the the third thing is um uh again that that access road that's um the type things you know just to make sure that's there because I'm sure the park department will get all over you if they can't get the other track there so yeah if yeah and the the final suggestions I have is to to consider uh removing um right on red uh by San Joseph and Sonia uh and possibly also by uh Marilyn and things because I I live near there and I'm pretty much on Biramonte every day I backed here today I worked here you know working here today uh and and there is no traffic really from Sonia or or the school when it's not on session to start with um so so you wouldn't have backups and and then Marilyn is just no traffic whatsoever.

And background always that's a good plan.

Thank you.

Yeah um yeah I agree with this good project um and nobody like we we want to get a sense the pavement program um so yeah probably on board with that uh I agree with others that I will like the recommended alternative more I do not see any reason to do the alternative that would create a bike laying in the door zone of a bunch of cars um and some notes, I I this for my own thinking for everyone else, or I'll remind everyone that like this will make traffic along Miramante a lot slower.

And that's both part, and that'll be helpful for thinking about why we make different design choices here.

Um, in fact, I think it'll get even more slowed down on California Street is because this does not have that extra center uh double left turn lane, so the lanes are will feel visually much more constricted to drivers.

So you'll typically end up with people going even slower than that in practice, and it's more curvy road than California Street.

Um I did find the included data on uh traffic counts and parking utilization helpful.

Uh thank you for including that in the uh staff report.

Um and then four recommendations.

Actually, first I'll start with recommendations that are sort of long term.

I know what we've done in this project, but I like to mention these things because sometimes they come up.

One is I would like to see raised crosswalks at some point.

I know that's probably not part of this project, but it's those on a traffic that makes things a lot safer.

Um, as I was alluding to having getting rid of that slip lane onto park drive, I think would be valuable.

That just I know when I'm bike, I don't bike along there right now.

Hopefully, when I'm biking along there in the future, I that will make me nervous.

Just that spot where someone could easily keep driving straight on Maramonte, and I might not have good visibility to them out from my bicycle or the such.

Um, and then I will also like to someday see the removal of those slip lanes to and from El Camino Royale, but I understand that will hopefully be part of the protected intersection project there that will come about at some point.

Um, in terms of stuff that I think is more immediate, uh, first I do think we should try to include some initial plans for where we put loading zones instead of parking, just from what I'm seeing on like California and Alpamino and on places like actually Villa Street, um, where there have been various improvements recently, that's all good, but people need to get packages and loaded, get into and out of ride shares.

So trying to plan those in from the start would make sense.

Um it sounds like this will likely be done.

I will restate though, I want I want to see full protection to the extent reasonable.

So that section that's near the Castro Street intersection, sounds like that's going to be looking as this and the segment B project are reconciled, but I'll state it explicitly here.

Um, one thing that I would like to see, which I don't have some parts of California Street and not others, is some vertical elements in sort of where there's the visibility zones in a sense, where there's no parking, but there's it's just a buffer, including some some level vertical element, which maybe just be very short ones that people don't park there.

Seems to be good because as I think a public commenter was mentioning earlier, people love to park in those zones right now on California Street.

Um, I will agree with Member Bonte's comments about no right turns on red, and then these slightly more substantive or meaty recommendations.

First off, do we have a sense for how much space so okay?

The reason I will ask this is that I would like to make it easy for someone to get onto northbound Maromonte from the neighborhood that is sort of in the upward half of this picture.

Currently, if you don't, if you do not ride on the sidewalk, that means coming from either that bike path or from park drive, riding all the way down to uh Sonia, um, crossing out the crosswalk and riding all the way back up to El Camino Real.

Um I don't think we need to have a left turn from park drive on to northbound Maromonte.

However, if we had a bit of bi-directional bike lane between the bike path and the crosswalk to across park drive at the bottom of the screen, then it would be much easier to go from the bike path, go northbound along Miramonte, but on the southbound side, without having to ride on the sidewalk, which people may not intuitively do.

Um cross of the crosswalk and then get onto the northbound bike lane.

That depends on there being enough right-of-way.

If I squint at this picture, it looks like there might be enough right of way.

I can't tell.

Um, so I guess I would be curious for staff's impression of that.

If that is a plausible thing, I know I'm guessing the answer is going to be it would have to be looked at in design, but um, are you suggesting to add another battery?

So to not up there, I'm saying just for that like short section is probably 50 to 100 feet between where the bike path from McKelvey Park comes out to the crosswalk for park drive.

So from there, then go move the cursor to the left.

Um to there.

Right there.

Yeah.

So for between those two sections, if you come out of the bike path, you want to if you want to get onto northbound Marimonte, how do you do so right now?

You can right now ride on the sidewalk because you're permitted to in Mountain View.

However, that sidewalk I don't think is the widest in the world.

It's not the narrowest either.

Um and I it's I generally not prefer not to have people ride on the sidewalk if we don't have to.

Um, and so it seems like it'd be very reasonable to have a short section of bidirectional bikeway that directed people to that crosswalk.

They use the crosswalk to get onto the correct side of the street and they continue along northbound Marimonte until they get to um uh Alchemina Real and then across into downtown Mountain View.

Does that make sense?

Okay, yeah, and I think that also reduces the need I would see for any sort of left turn from the other section of park drive onto Marimonte, because I know certainly when I am wanting to make that left turn, I'm actually already riding by the bike path.

I just don't go onto the bike path because I know if I get onto the bike path, I'm going to have to like do a sketchy crossing of uh Maramonte regardless.

Or I'm gonna have to go all the way down to Sonia, turn around and have divert ended up diverting like a quarter to a half mile.

Um but I don't, but yeah, I think I think it's I don't know that we need that extra left turn if we have that little bit of um uh sort of bi-directional bike lane.

Um yeah, putting that one out there.

The other one is that at a lot of these intersections to the for that like merge weave zone in the right turn lane.

I think my instincts, which I don't have a citation on a uh manual for this, unfortunately, is that I would prefer to treat this sort of more like protected intersections where you try to tighten up the turn radius at those and don't have as much of that sort of merging zone.

And so you're protected basically, if you're in the bike lane, you're protected right up to the intersection, and then yes, say car can write hook right in front of you.

Um, but A, hopefully they have good visibility because we don't have parking in the lead up to the intersection.

Um, and B, they will be traveling slowly because of the tight turn radii.

That would also tie in with if we wanted to use like sort of use those same sort of vertical elements of just like plastic elements for quasi bowl bouts because they're if you're tightening the turn radius anyways, it's not a proper bowl belt because it's not the same, like expanding the curve that you would, but it would I it feels like that would help with safety that seems consistent with my understanding of most guidelines, and as I said, I don't have a specific citation.

Um for clarification, the area you're looking at is like right across from the lens.

This is at a bunch of them, but let's go to the middle segment.

I think that's the one where there's the most examples of these.

I've been staring at this section for a while.

Um sorry, my things do different things at this time.

Okay, here, I think this section.

Yeah, this section has like I think a couple of examples.

So if we look at sort of say Harpster Drive at the bottom, so from northbound Marimonte onto Harpster Drive, right now there's a very wide turn radius for cars that are turning right onto Harpster Drive, so they can take that bike fast.

Um, and what I'm sort of questioning is okay, if we took that thing that's basically a right turn line and just kept it as buffer, so there's no cars parked in it, so there's no visit there, there would hopefully not be a visit visibility problem.

And then you just have to make that tight right turn if you're in a vehicle onto harpster drive, then you're going slower than if you were to do the sort of wider turn that you would do right now, which should hopefully also help with pedestrian safety at that same crossing.

Um, and yeah, and then you feel more protected in the bike lane because you're spending more time in an actual protected zone.

Um we'll have to look at the code for that, but yeah, we can look at that.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

So that that's that's in my way.

I just see that, and that's like hey, I feel like when I'm riding along on that bike may not be like, this feels like it should just be protective.

It'll probably feel like cars are taking it too fast when we have it in a configuration.

If we added a configuration that looks like this, is my impression.

But yeah, I would I would appreciate someone digging into the actual um proper citations.

Um, those are all my comments, and I look forward to us figuring out exactly how we want to make a motion once we get there.

But I think there might be others who need to make their comments.

Okay, um comments.

Yeah, I'll finish with mine then.

So number one, I think uh the marking is good.

You mentioned it's still in process.

I think making sure um we're consistent with California Street with El Camino because I think it's a driver education and it looks like it is.

So I think that all feeds back on each other for proper uh behavior and just learning exactly how the cars and pedestrians and bicyclists interact.

Um the second one kind of reflecting on the green trees and the green streets.

Um this is a bit of a shade desert.

I try to avoid this.

That's one of the reasons in the uh warmer days.

Uh, April mentioned in her comments uh the one of the main comments I had on the El Camino bike lanes is that this is much more pleasant, those trees on the south side, the oaks that were planted 40 feet ago, provide shade off the whole bike lane and out in the traffic lanes.

This is not too bad, actually.

So it's you know, not only the bike infrastructure, but they recognize that the trees are attractive for uh bicycles and pedestrians.

Uh and I believe they're also shown to show traffic speeds regardless of lane width.

So when we can get trees in here, all the better.

And the final one is disappointed that um between El Camino and a park, um, we don't have a crosswalk.

Um there is no it would require a curb cut there.

I believe that was 800 feet or more from El Camino to the crosswalk that's shown, so that doesn't meet any of the guidelines.

Um some of the older apartment buildings on park are likely to be redeveloped, so there'll be more residents in there coming out and looking to um kind of make that left across shoreline so they can continue down El Camino to locations there.

So um between El Camino and the Mark Crosswalk there, I think was getting on 800 to 900 feet.

Um, I believe the standards are 500 or less.

Um, so disappointed that we can't do something there to add that crosswalk.

Um I think we need to look at uh where we can get funding to put that curve cut and facilitate those pedestrians who are already crossing there, and there's likely to only be more in the future.

Um so that that's um my comments.

Uh, I do like the protected uh parking.

I think that um does a lot for the safety of the cyclist, does a lot for distancing uh the uh cars from the pedestrians and slowing traffic.

So I like that option.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um seeing no further comments.

Um, I think we would be prepared to entertain a motion.

I believe you would be looking for.

Yes.

So do we motion back on the screen?

And to clarify, does staff feel like the feedback was recently coherent?

To what degree we should incorporate any of our feedback in the motion versus the straightforwards like recommend the preferred alternative.

I think recommending the preferred alternative is good.

We will take your comments and make sure that they're also um shown to CTC on Tuesday.

I would like to summarize what I've heard so I make sure that I've I've got what I've got here.

So I'm going to work.

No, I'm all turned around.

I'm going to work southbound on Miramonti because I've written them on my drawing as we go here.

So that's what yeah so yeah you go ahead.

You go for it.

So I'm gonna start with the first thing I heard is to explore switching the loading and the parking at the ballpark and looking at parking on park and loading on Marimonte.

Explore a crosswalk also around that location look at what the turning would be left onto park there if you're coming northbound in the bike lane so we'll we'll look at the the geometrics of that as well when we make as we continue this make sure that we capture the driveway and maintenance road that's at the end of the ball field and explore a bi-directional bike lane there to the crosswalk at park okay backwards okay and then I have explore the right turn on red on the next couple cross sections as we go um for Sonia and Miramonte Marilyn and Maromonte and there was one more you said well I think Sonya Miramonte is also San Joseph because it's up there yeah the type of intersections kind of a private drive and the the driveway for yeah and this yeah that so that area I have for the right no right turn on red and explore that as well as the example being at Harper Drive but the right turn making sure that we meet the code and requirements for the right turn but minimize that as much as possible to tighten up the right turns across bike lanes.

Yeah yeah okay did I hit everything also thinking about loading zones how we're gonna put loading zones oh I that is a general note I wrote for delivery vehicles stoppage and loading loading for drive delivery vehicles because I think that's gonna have to be a policy discussion but yes that's an ATP note.

Yeah not sure that has to be but yes I got that one I know I was raising that as it like it's nice if that happens at the same time things go in it's also not strictly doesn't have to but yeah and and that might help with some of our loading location shifts but yes I I just forgot is something I think there's something also about the slip lane uh on to uh pop from I was raising that as a long term thing I was saying like a I was I know I was listing a few like things I would like to see us talked about eventually but I don't think so are in scope for this project.

It's not within this the scope of this project but we can add it to the radar for sure.

Yeah I think there's a lot of wasted space there and if you want to do some greeneries it's probably a very good place to do it.

Yes again I will have to go through city attorney and everything else will vacate right away and I all but yes I've got that yeah and in that one about right turns which is sort of two all the right turns not it hard sources yes I use that as the example location that's what it sounded like just making yes yes that's where I drew my circle so I just want to okay so I think we would agree the comments are summarized.

Now we're can we get a statement of your view of the alternatives I think we can do a motion and votes ready for motion then okay yeah so I I um I propose that we approve the the the alternative that was presented to us uh the one where uh bikes are protected back docking uh staff recommended or for us marimontes I will I will second the motion to approve or we recommend the bird alternative content plan for Marimonte Avenue complete street study from opening out caster street Maryland Street Council that's a CT so I'm going to say for the record that we have Bonte uh starting uh with the motion and uh vice chair Kuzmal as the second there we go so the motion is in favor of the staff recommended alternative yeah um ready for a vote.

All in favor aye nice so passes you unanimously.

That's unanimously.

Right.

Five, zero.

Okay.

More treats.

More trees.

This is the comment.

Oh, this project aka.

Okay.

So that concludes item seven point, excuse me, six point two.

Moving forward to item seven.

Uh staff uh and committee comments.

Um was there any notices or presentation?

Comments from staff.

We can have some project updates.

Yes, we're pulling up the slides right now.

Um, hi.

For refresher, um, and about your acting transportation manager.

Um, time being.

So, some recent events we'd like to share is the new trail bridge.

Um at Amesville Hotel to Stevens Creek Trail.

So the bridge effectively connects Stevens Creek Trail to Moffat Boulevard through the Ameswell development site at 750 Moffat Boulevard.

Um so I do yeah, recommend that you write it.

Um I think it's it's open to the public now.

Um, I don't really know.

I don't think so.

I mean I'd like to this morning.

So, as it's this morning, so okay, so sorry, correction.

It's almost done, but we will send an alert.

We will send a communication on the current status of the projects.

Well, we'll send an update once it is is open to the public.

Right, okay.

Um believe that comment and then uh but the trail is back open, there's no detour.

Uh, it's not it's not our things like this, and but you still have the try closed that the uh you know that's the number.

Yeah, but so it's a bright thing, but I see a lot of people are going to the signs and the website still say will be closed uh weekdays next week, but not my predict.

Okay, that's correct.

Thanks for keeping us up to date on that on my update.

Um, so second bullet there, El Camino Real education effort.

So we've been working with a consultant on developing educational content to educate roadway users to practice safe turns around bullards, protect intersections, zones with various vertical elements like armadillos and flexible posts.

So that's kind of been practiced at El Camino and sharing that those learnings at what's happening at California.

So it's an ongoing effort that we're we're doing and making sure we're reinforcing the feedback loop that we're hearing from the community.

Um and then and it'll be in your Instagram feed soon.

Yeah, we'll get better already.

Okay.

We have go back to your third bulletin quite understand.

We have some ask MVs.

So there was an asking me that was submitted to paint uh striping uh to effectively put it in a bike lane from California on San Antonio, like on San Antonio from California.

Um so yeah, from San Antonio all the way to Del Medio, and so the striping has been put in, and so now there is uh yeah, so a project that stemmed from an ask and V, we were able to with our our team at a stripe and so there is now a striped bike lane.

And this is mentioned in prior media.

Yes, correct.

This is this is to close the loop.

The work is done, and the car parked in it right now.

Well, um working on education, exactly, full circle.

Um, so next statically.

Oh, happy season.

So it's back to school, and we've been fully engaged in um kind of showing up at a number of our elementary, middle, and high school um making sure to um yeah, promote our safe reads school programming.

And so what was it last week?

Um we kind of touched a number of these schools here uh for ice cream socials at bike rodeos, um, and then kind of topped off the week with a bike to boba on Friday, or was it early month it's been a couple of weeks.

Oh, okay.

Earlier this month.

Earlier this month.

Sorry, it's been a long month.

Uh uh um bear with me.

So, yes, how many students are in attendance or like the one?

I think we had about 25.

This one was the biggest one.

Biggest one, and we handed out all of our bike lights.

Um, and yeah, so it was a successful event um next slide so we do have the Miramonte survey that's active it does close at the end of this month and uh we're giving folks posts you know BPAC and CTC to are not CTC but after BPAC to you know fill out the survey if they haven't already um lots of change in transition of foot in transportation in Mountain View so uh this week we received notice that uh transportation planner Aruna Buduna is uh resigning her post with the city and accepted a position with City of Campbell as a traffic engineer so it's a a loss uh she's been with the city for about six years and it's instrumental and shepherding you know the pedestrian mall and overseeing kind of the interior improvements and kind of the design and treatments for the permanent um project so we'll be sorely missed and yeah just thankful for her service um so Brandon wanted me to provide some Ask and V updates um from April and May so uh if you see times four that means we got four complaints from different people the same thing.

So for April we got asking Vs for two cars that were blocking the bike lane at 555 Evelyn couple complaints of Del Medio and California being an unsafe intersection.

A number of um submissions about confusion on the ECR bike lanes a number six in fact uh identifying parking on in the bike lane on O Camino and a van parked for several weeks and one expressing appreciation for no turn on right red on ECR and another submission identifying that our bike fix it stations are broken and vandalized.

And then um two submissions about crosswalks on ECR that were uh where there are conditions of crush stone and asphalt um may ask MVs uh there was a request for buying a bike lane on Hope Street um two submissions of cars blocking bike lane on bike five Evelyn and again some confusion on ECR bike lanes so um kind of dovetails with our kind of education efforts on ECR um and then PD kind of stepping up information and education about uh parking in the bike lane on El Camino so yeah I think that concludes yeah staff okay thank you for the staff updates uh any committee comments how do you guys respond to the cases that they call um we so it's time bound we receive them and we have X number of days to respond um Brandon and Karen uh Gauss manage the ask and be's that are submitted that are bicycle pedestrian uh related so depending on the issue will escalate it interdepartmentally um to resolve them you know for example the striping lane um on California at San Antonio we worked with our streets team um to identify yeah the the conditions and kind of the road work and construction and timing of that so that's that's kind of uh uh context specific one how SMVs are submitted and and um dealt with but we do encourage you know community members to use the ask and be system it's a really important way for us registering um community feedback and requests and and being able to document and identify trends and patterns for dealing with uh certain issues that we're seeing and to get like really important metrics for um again for for what we're seeing um and being able to identify within an appropriate amount of time.

Um, for things like the parking, we would we can we send those off to PD so they know where we're seeing the issues and they can go out in either flyer or enforce and have those um conversations.

If the gravel in the road, we'll look and see if there's a permit pulled.

If it's construction related, we'll ask them to sweep.

If it's something that's just, you know, um wear and tear of our roads, we'll talk to our streets team.

So it just kind of depends on the situation, but yeah, they're they're constantly monitored.

Oh, and more responsive than most cities for the similar systems.

Any other additional committee comments?

We do public on the stack on this, right?

It doesn't say on my instruction from Brandon.

Yeah, I just think we do, especially asking no one does.

Yeah, and there's no heads race, okay.

Um, yeah, so I'm I have I actually are we on item 7.2 now, which is the committee comments part of item seven.

I just made sure I know where.

I think so, yes.

Okay.

Great.

All right, so that's a go.

All right, so um but the first thing is that um uh when are we gonna get back to getting VTA meetings feedback?

I was going to provide an update on that in my uh comments.

Oh, so um questions answered.

Um the uh it's second thing is um uh it's where your comments so um that was on the goal of the back lines on that camino, but uh I wanted to share my experience that walking on El Camino feels a bit safer.

Uh it's still not great, but I mean that's not like my tough two hike or walk or exactly.

But there is a sense of of safety that comes from having the the course further away, uh especially when I walk back home at night because there is no baby biking, so that's really a nice buffer.

Uh value.

So just uh that's one positive side effect of this things.

You have additional comments on seven point two.

So okay, VK updates.

First off, yes, there I have not been officially on the VTAB pack yet because we recommended the appointment then our council had to approve it.

Then it sounds like some timing on that getting to VTA was just missed a VTA committee meeting because the V.

Like how our council has to formally appoint our VTA B pack representative.

VTA board has to formally accept the representative.

And so I did actually make it to most of but not all of the most recent uh VTAB pack meeting, although I was just listening in.

And I should actually be on at the next one and then hopefully can provide a proper update on that and do the regular updates, like uh Lada used to.

The short update from the prior one, since I may as well give a short update of what happened, even though I didn't prepare nice notes, um, was that there were just about several informational items.

One about a collision database that's countywide, that's most of the discussion was actually about how ancient the software that was being used was since it's not called crossroads.

I'm not familiar with the whole background there, but it sounds like it's a bit of a pain to use, and the data doesn't tend to make its way to the public all that efficiently.

Um, but uh so it is with changing, can be hard.

So I don't know, the full details.

They had a presentation on their local road safety plan for the county, which I don't believe is yet fully adopted.

Um, and it it covers county roads and expressways, so both unincorporated in county and expressways.

Um, there were variety of questions.

Uh some people talking about um reducing lane widths or reducing lanes altogether, um, protected signal faces and no right turns on reds, um, and there are a variety of feedback about things that people hope to see in the local road safety plan.

Um, and there's also an intelligent transportation systems update, which uh was about some basically traffic signal timing stuff, and more recording in traffic signal timing.

Um I was going to try generally positive feedback to stack about the California Street pipeline since I don't think we've had any formal item on it, but I'd like to give positive feedback when we can.

And I would also want to acknowledge that I do know there is at least one member of the public who uh mentioned that this meeting conflicted with the back to school night.

I don't know that we know like when back to school nights will be in the future, but I'm going to set myself a reminder for like December or January to check if we know what the calendar looks like for the next back to school night, um, and to see if we want to adjust anything, but I don't know that we will since I don't sometimes the logistics for these these are paint.

But I did want to acknowledge it because I do like it when parents care about uh feedback.

So, okay, thank you, James.

Any other committee comments?

Okay, so I think we're moving on to item eight, date and time for next meeting.

Um I believe we are canceling September still.

So that brings us back to a normal October meeting, the last Wednesday of October.

Forgetting the date.

October 29th.

29th, okay.

That's how to win.

You can come in your costume.

Okay, so uh October 29th, Wednesday at 6 30.

Comments room likely here, but to be determined.

Okay.

Um our calendar item.

Uh any other comments?

Uh it says calendar for item number nine.

That's just the upcoming ones we've got.

It's just more of any of it.

The next three.

Oh, okay.

Just uh uh, on okay.

So I think we're ready to adjourn.

Uh calling for adjournment at 9 20 pm.

No