Call the meeting.

Order at 8.05.

Amanda, could you...

We're getting close.

We're getting close.

Could you call the roll, please?

Yes.

Committee member Kavanaugh is absent.

Committee member Foreman.

Present.

He absent.

Katz is absent.

D. Lynn is absent.

S. Lynn.

Present.

Malera absent.

Shake.

Vice Chair Baird.

Present.

And Chair Casper-Zarr.

Present.

We don't have a quorum yet, so we will have to come back to the minutes if we reach a quorum.

Item number four is upcoming agenda topics.

Anything you need to report on that?

Nope.

We've got the list of things there.

the next page yes right no she said we have a lot going on next year so okay prepared

all right moving on to item number five oral communications from the public

and do we have any public online i know public online and there's only staff here in the room

okay um i guess we don't really then have to go through that so we'll move on from oral

communications from the public to unfinished business and 6.1 is the downtown development

updates.

Good morning, everyone.

Hi.

Good morning.

Vincent Vaughn, Associate Planner.

To provide you guys with the downtown development updates.

So a few updates from our last meeting in October.

If you direct your attention to item number 17, the 185 Cashflow Street.

That project is approved for minor facade modifications just for new storefront vendors.

185 Castro, I believe, is hummus.

Which one?

Yeah.

Hummus is now?

One immediately adjacent to Eureka.

Okay, the new one.

The newer.

Right.

Mediterranean hummus.

Yeah, so.

Yeah, I've been there.

Oh, we're made at the hummus place.

So that one is just new storefront windows.

So not much change on that one.

That was approved by planning on November 17th.

They're still going through the building permit phase.

So they may have some construction following the week.

Building permits be approved.

The second item is not necessarily like a planning permit update,

but more of just like new businesses coming into downtown.

So item number 247 West Danish Street,

a new dessert shop for a ground floor retail space

with a new building that's being built right there.

Right where the

that like floral shop is like right behind.

There's a yeah, that was built.

So that's just the new dessert shop

that's going to anticipate it to be open.

Yay, we have a quorum.

No, we have a double quorum.

You have to sit at the head of the table.

Oh, okay.

There's a guy here.

So, we both paid a little bit.

So, yeah, number 20 is just a new dessert shop that's being opened.

So, that's just a new business.

And then the next item is item 21 for 250 Bryant Street.

That's also a new to operating in the same office on first and third floor of this building.

So that's an office tenant, no commercial there.

But that's also an existing building at 250 Bryant Street.

Additionally, I don't know, Amanda, is Diana on the list?

She is not, no.

Okay.

So just going to give you a brief highlight on items number 23 and 24.

So downtown precise plan update, as you guys may well know,

that we're undergoing a comprehensive update of the downtown precise plan.

The information regarding the downtown plan is that there is anticipated to be some delays

on the work for downtown precise plan given the new assembly bill 130, which has impacts to,

which has impacted staff's workload essentially for being able to kind of concentrate our

specific efforts on the down-to-exercise planning. AB 130 is something that requires statutory

exemptions from CEQA, which is why staff has managed the workload regarding that.

And then similarly, excuse me, so does that mean we're going to go through and evaluate properties?

Well, no, AB 130 is like a process for projects kind of citywide.

So it's just there's kind of a shortened timeline typically for certain projects,

which is limiting that kind of bandwidth in order to kind of concentrate their efforts on

precise. But subsequently, there's also Senate Bill 79, which is also recently passed,

which does have more impacts to the downtown precise plan. So right now, that one is allows for

like changes allowable, do allowable land uses within one half mile of rail transit stops.

So essentially the entirety of downtown. So that's why there's going to be, there's going to

potential impacts to anticipated impacts to the downtown area and which we will need to kind of

do further studies on understanding how it should be

related to the precise plan here.

Yes.

So that's just kind of an FYI regarding that.

And Diana Pantoli, our principal planner,

she is leading the,

or kind of in charge of the downtown precise plan update.

So she would definitely be a good contact

if you guys have any questions to kind of direct her.

And lastly, there was a timeline on the website.

Has that been updated?

There was a timeline of when quarterly meetings or outreach is going to be done.

Has that been updated?

I'll have to touch base with staff to make sure that that's updated.

I assume that it will be updated accordingly to what are you anticipated planning on.

And so lastly is item number 24, which is to talk sky permits.

So this is a project that has been ongoing by staff, and this is an objective to establish

some exterior lighting standards in the city to kind of use light pollution, wildlife and

maintain like the ability to enjoy the night.

So right now, this project has been ongoing since June of this year, and there is a link

that is available on our city webpage for allow us for community feedback.

So you can follow the link that is included.

It's on the backside, or you can visit it online.

They will look at dark sky ordinance and provide feedback.

Yes.

I did this somewhere.

Do you know how the responses for the community work on AP plans?

I would have to follow up with the project planner on that, but because the survey is

still ongoing, I don't know if we have the full picture of information.

Thanks for taking this survey, actually.

It was fun.

I'm fascinated about it.

Maybe we'll be able to see the Aurora Borealis now.

Oh, yeah.

You're a little tipsy, maybe.

Yeah, so that is the last of...

So that project will have to go to EPC and council,

ultimately, for an approval of that ordinance.

It's anticipated to go to EPC sometime early in 2006,

and then subsequently it'll go to council.

that is all for the updates were there any questions um just yeah if i think we did this

last year but then as we change off staff members who handle the downtown committee like if there's

an item where there's a change could you like underline your address or something just so

we can see where the new where the changes are yeah yeah i think we were doing that and then

i keep looking for that and there's just look must be no changes yeah no i can

i know right any other questions or comments on the um

um sorry for which one uh that's that's citywide yeah so the entire yeah it's for the entire city

so that's just more of like an fyi they'll ask you yeah only residential yeah um that's for any

residents in the city

or to participate

in it.

Anything else?

And still no public input?

Public

members of the public?

Great, thanks, Vincent.

Have a happy

holiday season.

And by the way,

the plaza looks, I guess that's part of the

band.

Do you want to circle back to it?

Yeah, why don't we go back to

item number three,

approval of the minutes.

The minutes

for October 7th

were attached, and

are there any corrections,

and if not, is there a motion

to approve the minutes?

I'll make motion.

Okay, moved by Jamil, seconded by

Marina. Any

discussion?

Seeing none, all in favor say

aye. Aye. Any opposed?

The motion carries unanimously.

All right.

Now back to 6.2 Castro Street update.

Hey, did that do for me?

It's not coming out there.

Okay.

Well, fine. I'll go noteless. Okay. All right. Good morning, committee. Amanda Rotella,

economic vitality manager. And these are our updates, not for September 2025, but for December

2025. First, really exciting development that the Lot 12 affordable housing project is moving

forward. You can see a little bit more about that project on the screen, number of units,

affordability rate, the populations that'll be served. There is a fair bit of city funding.

and just to orient you all this is city hall back here library is sort of gearish cvs is sort of

where this photo is being taken from so you can kind of see what the rendering is there

but we're really excited that this project is moving forward with alta housing and related

California. It'll be really, really awesome for downtown, the increased foot traffic. And then,

of course, our building affordable housing meets a lot of our city goals. And so timeline for this,

we're planning to close the parking lot to public use starting late January, I believe January 19th.

So we're going to be doing a kind of full court press on communications, letting different

user groups know we're going to be doing outreach to the library the cpa to city employees to

visitors of city hall letting them know that the parking lot will be coming offline

and construction will be starting sometime in february or march that project is moving forward

i'm seeing commercial in the first one um that may have been original in the in one version of it but

um i don't believe there's commercial as part of this it's just potential farmer's market

notification, right? Right.

The farmer's market is moving to lots

4 and 8.

And city council

will be reviewing that.

It's original sites.

Right by the Caltrain

station. Right behind

Depot Garage.

Oh, that one.

That'll go to city council on the 16th.

Where the hotel's going to be.

Sunday.

I'm just making sure.

Construction begins January 28th.

Groundbreaking.

be in february march and anticipated completion is january 28th

so i'm breaking is when 26. uh sometime in february or march we don't have a day yeah

all right um downtown digest our november digest is out or was out just last month so i provided uh

print copies here. I'm happy to print out some more if needed. But lots of good articles in

there. I did another article on an update on downtown vacancy, which has a list of some of

the new businesses, a little bit of an update on the public art strategy. There's another printout

if you haven't yet taken the survey. I've got a printout down by one stall. Thank you.

And then we had a really great small business Saturday campaign just this past weekend.

What's the media campaign we did with the mayor?

And the umbrella share program is back.

Although it's been out of umbrellas and I'm waiting to get more.

So it finally happened.

They should say, I belong downtown.

Well, they do have, I put QR codes on all of them.

Yeah.

Yeah. And it's pretty obviously Mountain View ones. They've been branded. So anyway,

but we're happy people are using them. So just a reminder, holiday tree lighting is happening

next Monday. This is a free event open to everyone. For those of you that have been in the past,

you know, it's quite a popular event. So it's a good time. And that'll be happening just here at

the Civic Center Plaza. The other thing, Marisol, do you want to talk about this? Oh, yeah.

we're gonna have a blood drive so we're the dba is collaborating with the city of mountain view

to have a blood drive on friday december 1925 it's going to be a blood mobile that's going to

be parked in front of city hall um it is to my current understanding um based on appointments

so there is a website where you can scan the qr code um and yeah it'll maybe it'll be a

fun time. Oh, they have a

I think this is the most important part

is they have a

drawing happening for

everyone that donates during the month

of December and a lucky winner will go to

the Super Bowl.

So.

So.

So.

So how many?

So.

So.

Yeah.

This is pretty much the main holiday event, if you will, that the DBA will be supporting this year.

Of course, we will also be promoting what else is going on in everyone's doors.

But this right here is where we're going to be.

Are the elves going to be the phlebotomists?

The DBA actually this year decided to not do the elf scavenger hunt this year.

So there has been some feedback that it was great.

You know, when COVID was around, it helped people get like come out of their house, go into the businesses.

They don't see the huge value of it for this year.

So we are going to skip it and see if we miss it and try again next year.

But for now, this is what we're focused.

I don't weigh enough to give Zoe.

How about platelets?

Is there a substitute?

going to give hugs away you can give hugs i don't know if that qualifies for the drawing but

there are four tickets you just take three friends

well see that's the thing though usually if you go and then you get deferred that counts as

you tried you tried so yeah like you don't have enough iron they still count you as like

oh right yeah so i think that that might be an entry considered an entry

I don't know if I just break down and say, oh, I didn't know.

I didn't know.

Okay.

So let's talk about the big games, actually.

So as you know, World Cup and Super Bowl are coming to our area in 2026.

We, the city, in partnership with the Chamber and Downtown Business Committee,

Downtown Business Association, I don't know, too many committees.

One of those.

Are working on some activation.

And so our activation goals, obviously, there's a lot of economic activity that will be coming to the region.

And we want to draw some of that benefit here to Mountain View.

So our goals are to boost local economic activity, to enhance community engagement, and to elevate the city's visibility.

And so we are taking a three-pronged approach.

The first is around branding and placemaking in the downtown.

that'll be with you know sidewalk decals photo moments other fun elements to create a festive

atmosphere city hosted activations is number two so having different events both related to the

super bowl and world cup to promote mountain view and to draw visitors down and then the third and

i think really key one is business promotion so we want to really support and encourage business

to do watch parties, to name drinks after players, to create like a really fun events and activities in their businesses.

And so we'll be doing a lot to highlight and promote businesses and what they're doing to in our in our city marketing and promotion.

And so just a quick reminder of the schedule. So obviously, Super Bowl is on February 8th,

but there's going to be a whole week of activity happening in the lead up.

Obviously, we will have to stop saying the word Super Bowl in our promotions

as that is a trademarked verbiage.

So very soon you'll start seeing us promote the big game

or other approved languages.

It would be something like 6-7 or something.

You're so hip, Mike.

There goes my idea.

I was thinking about having Super Bowl week.

Yeah, yeah, can't use it.

Can you use Super Bowl?

SW.

We'll have to look.

We'll have to look.

Let's see, what numbers is SW?

26 and 29.

And just to note, so Super Bowl, we're already starting to do business engagement.

So I've created this survey available for businesses so that they can start letting us know.

So obviously we'll really start leaning into business coordination as we get closer.

But this is for the football big game.

Businesses can let us know, like, are they having special deals?

Are they hosting a watch party?

You know, are the hotels having special deals?

Are there different packages?

And our plan is to create a map, a sort of fan fest map with all of the inputs we get

from the business community.

And we'll be promoting that really heavily.

So that's out there.

And then just a reminder for World Cup, obviously this is about a month and change long game series that will be taking place across North America.

So one of the benefits to us is that all the games will be at reasonable time.

So there won't be any like 2 a.m. games since it's all happening here in North America.

Bay Area specific games are there hosted or are noted in that green bubble.

and we'll be looking to do similar three-pronged approach branding and placemaking,

city-hosted event and activation, and then the business promotion for this as well.

Yeah, you can call it World Cup.

Yeah, call it World Cup.

The big games, plural.

I don't know.

Another big game.

More big games.

Yeah, soccer season.

So anyway, we're going to bring on,

we're going to get some help with some branding and marketing to, and,

and the Bay Area host committee,

which is our regional group that's helping to organize these large events.

They've created this playbook that I shared with you at our last committee

meeting,

and they've got some really clear direction around phrases you can and can't

use graphics that, you know, do's and don'ts.

So we've got a lot of really good direction.

We are going to be at a city council also on December 16th with,

with a proposal for them to approve around this as well. So if you're interested, stay tuned.

Do we know what other cities are doing like Sunnyvale?

Yeah, I think all cities right now are in this sort of planning process. San Jose, I know,

has put a real strong stake in the ground. They're doing drone shows and concerts and watch parties.

I know a number of other cities or another city has opened up like an RFP for an event producer company to come in.

There's nothing out at Shoreline.

There's nothing planned at Shoreline.

And for this in particular, there'll be some crossover with our concert series happening there.

But I would say I'm part of the regional economic development group and every single one of my peer colleagues, we're all talking about this.

So every city is looking to see about how they can capitalize on this economic opportunity.

Are there any statistics or knowledge of what kind of money is going to be brought into the Bay Area?

I had that on my last slide from last year.

I'll have to look it up.

I had put some stats last time.

I didn't include that slide about that.

Who cares about the Bay Area?

I know.

Who cares about Mountain View?

I'll try and find that and I'll send that over.

I took a photo of the, um, of an article that I read and it's in my,

it's in my office. I look at it every day. Okay.

We're going to get our piece of the economic benefit there. Okay.

Moving along. Um, just wanted to provide an update on wayfinding.

So, um,

we're currently out to bid for a company to produce,

produce these signs and the bids missions are due.

they're due tomorrow so it's the third not the second um right no they may be due today anyway

they're due this week um and we're planning to have a bid awarded by december 16th um and my

guess is that we'll have signs manufactured early next year just given the christmas holiday but

um really exciting that this project is going to be happening early next year

before the that's yeah absolutely to have wayfinding up and ready to go

um and then some exciting updates and actually i see i see kirsten is on the line kirsten do you

want to provide this update hey good morning can you hear me okay yes all right perfect yeah um so

we have the um i think we've talked about this before um with this group the um there was the

Senate Bill 456 that was going to exempt muralists from needing a contractor's license.

So that passed in September and will be effective starting January 1. So we're starting to re-engage

with the artists. And I think almost everyone is able to continue participating in this program.

And we're going to start re-engaging them now to start in the new year. So probably weather

dependent. I'm sure it's not going to start January 1st, but we're thinking probably early

spring or as soon as the weather is good enough for people to go out and start painting.

And you wanted to provide a quick update on the train depot as well?

Oh yeah. So the train depot art project, so we've been working with Arts Mountain View.

This is a nonprofit group led by Mountain View resident Anita Rosen. She received a grant from the Valley Transportation Authority to put murals in downtown within a half mile of the train station.

So we've, you know, we identified the train depot as a location for this.

Anita Arts Mountain View worked with the Visual Arts Committee to select an artist, and they chose John Patrick Thomas, who created these series of art panels that will be set up onto the train depot building.

So it'll be just directly next to the Savvy Cellar space, kind of wrapping around the building, facing both Castro and the train station.

And each of the panels kind of represents a different period of history in Mountain View.

So those, again, will also be something that's done in the new year, a little bit of weather dependent.

So we'll have more updates on timeline and timing probably in the next month or so.

Are we going to get all those baller designs or just like those are just options?

These were, correct me if I'm wrong, Kirsten, these are art that has been selected by the VAC.

They did a whole call for art and these were part of the art.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, so these are three different artists.

The first one is John Patrick Thomas again.

Second one, I think, is Catherine Liu.

And I think the third, the bottom, more abstract, colorful one is Anne-Sophie Gaudette.

There were two other artists, or there were six artists selected in total.

So far, I think we're only going to have five participate.

The others were Zoe Karen and Rachel Barnes.

And so they each will paint two bollards.

and the purpose was to have them kind of match.

So they won't be exactly similar,

the two that each artist are painting,

but they'll be kind of cohesive,

create a little identity for that,

each end of the block.

So does each artist get like the two on the end

or they, okay, so like those two

will be kind of matching pairs.

Yeah, one might be sharks.

Yeah, well, cause I was like,

if you have like sharks and then fish,

like a block away, I don't know.

Yeah.

But will it be using the same kind of paint like the utility boxes kind of paint?

I think it'll really vary, but...

Yeah, it's going to be up to the artist, but they all need to have like an anti-graffiti

coating added on top of it to keep it safe and clean.

Cool.

So more to come on that, but exciting that that's moving forward and that we have that

legislation change.

I have a question.

So just not on me. The paint would be like, I mean, it's not very slippery because sometimes the kids try to get on there and things like that.

Either one of them just come down, you know, with slippery paint.

It might be. I mean, I would take the anti-graffiti coat.

I've seen the kids come in, the painters sometimes put the kids on there and take a photo.

You want to hose them off.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, somewhat not.

The kids.

The kids.

Yeah, and the kids.

Both, depending on what they're doing.

All right.

And then this is really exciting.

This is sort of you guys are the first to know.

But we have been working on a pop-up with Moment, which is a pop-up company.

They have a number of spaces in San Jose.

They're also out at the Google Visitor Center.

But we've been looking to activate a bacon storefront, and this will be soft opening December 20th and 21st.

And happening at 293 Castro Street, which is the former in-orbit space.

You can see the different artists that will be participating there.

But we're working on some promotions for this.

We'll be doing a press release and, excuse me, a grand opening ribbon cutting event in February, which we would all we would love all of you to be at.

So I out for that. So how long will that be?

They have a year lease. A year. And yeah, we're trying to get them in right before the holidays.

So we're going to be rotating through different artists or these are the four that will be there.

Yeah. For the entire year. For the entire year. Yes.

Well, I mean, I imagine, I don't know.

I imagine there's, you know,

the intention is that they would all be there

and be successful.

But if one has to swap out Moment

or who's coordinating it,

they have a whole sort of list of artists

and pop-up vendors.

So there could be some turnover in the air.

I'm hoping not that they're all successful.

Has there been thought of like adding

like food pop-up in there?

So there is actually interest on the part of one of these,

one of these business stores,

business specialty cocktails and two drinks.

Oh, there you go.

Yes.

So, but as soon as you add food,

the permitting gets a lot more complicated.

So we're starting with retail as it's sort of the simplest,

easiest path forward.

But, but yes,

there is interest on the part of one of these entrepreneurs to expand a

little bit into that.

So that sort of food, that's like food service as opposed to buying like a jar of honey or.

Right, that's considered retail.

That's retail, okay.

Yeah.

Right, Diana?

Thank you.

Okay.

So I'm so glad you brought that top up thing because I forgot, I forgot earlier what we were talking about,

upcoming agenda topics, you know, is I saw a documentary about these entrepreneurs.

They have these, a place where they get all these, they have different lifestyle work

and all that, but they were, we went back to South America and then he is having pop-ups

all different countries to get these people there for a limited time, just a few days,

a week or so and then we just think to our past information i'll bring more information yeah send

me the documentary yeah yeah yeah so i will just say you know we're really excited about this um

this staff and moment have been working on this for over a year and i i want to stress you know

the biggest challenge just has been finding a property owner partner um and so we're super

super excited this is moving forward, but I want to just sort of provide the context that this was a

really difficult, long lift. And that while we love pop-ups and we're super excited that this

is happening, it is a model that's difficult to replicate because it does require property owner

participation. So just some context there. It is exciting though. And then lastly, I wanted to

provide an update on our downtown committee, visual arts committee, performing arts committee

collaboration, which Stephanie and Pamela sit on our subcommittee. We're really excited to be

moving forward with a pilot artist reception. And so we're targeting Tuesday, February 17th in the

evening, exact time is still TBD. But we're going to do a talk with Donald Hirschman, who's going to

be having his collection code switching on display, and then we'll be doing a talk about

his work. And so I think this is going to be particularly cool. Do either of you want to add

anything? But really, this is an effort between these three committees to kind of bring some

activation to downtown, to obviously, it's at the Performing Arts Center, so getting exposure for

Performing Arts Center and to highlight one of our artists that will be exhibiting at the

Performing Arts Center. So there's a good crossover with our goal of just bringing more people down

for the arts. Do we do, and I mean, I know we do things like with the street pole banners and stuff

like that, but if there's a special exhibition in the Performing Arts Center, do we ever like

highlight that with um street you know like light pole flags and stuff like that banners we haven't

um typically you know the um our community services department uses the bus shelter

large signs to promote different city events the banners require staff to go and sort of swap them

out and um so we we haven't typically used that as a resource but we're planning to print out flyers

to send them out, bring them around to all the downtown businesses,

to use all of our various networks to promote this.

So, yeah, we'll be looking to...

Can you do things, have you thought about things like communications coming out of the city,

like feature an image from the collection, again, with artist approval,

that sort of might change as there are different artists,

but it's a way of, you know, it's sort of a sub logo or sort of thing that says, you know,

this is the theme of the month sort of thing. Yeah. I mean, we do promote the exhibits that

are in there. They're promoted on social media. They're in the Downtown Digest. And Kristen,

have we promoted? I don't think there's been any larger promotion through the larger city.

no um i think we typically stick with the downtown digest and our social media

but might be worth talking about just i mean just to like co-brand it with normal i mean it's on

social media but gotta be see i don't hardly ever look at non-view social media but you know like um

you know printed agendas there could be a little picture up here of you know the theme of the

the thing i'm just sort of yeah just trying to get an image of those sorts of things out so that

people see it oh what's that oh yeah it's an exhibit at the art center yeah i mean one of

the things i know that they have done in the past is put little a frames out like in the plaza so

that's something we could explore as well finding ways to get in front of people so but yeah this

will be really exciting and we hope you'll all be able to participate we'll send more information

out as we get.

They send like a quarterly newsletter

in the mail and also email.

I don't know if they put it in there, though.

I don't feel like they usually put

a picture of the view.

Oh, in the view.

Yeah, we'll have to see when the next one's going

out and see if there's an opportunity to highlight

this.

Okay.

All right.

And that is all of my updates.

All right. And again, still no

public on

I'm still seeing no members of the public.

Jill?

Just past the street update.

So I saw, you know, the city hall has this lighting and all that.

I think the ornament, three ornament or balls hanging in front of it.

Oh, on the building?

Yeah. But I don't know if anybody noticed it.

I walk, you walk at night, late at night, you look at them.

The reflection is such that they've become six things.

you know they come to six because reflection in the back it seemed like this three inside

and because i counted i was walking with somebody i said ah i knew that so i asked him

let's see how many up they count to six you know so it's fun to see a little benefit yeah

light tunnel yeah

Okay. We will then move on to item number seven, new business and item 7.1. We've got a

Rhone Labs public restroom presentation. Amanda, were you going to kick this off?

Yes, I would love to kick this off.

And I will pre-kick this off by saying I was down at the League of Cities or Cal Cities

conference um earlier this year i get to keep going as a former president and uh met the folks

from throne labs and went in to see the thing i said well i sent it off to amanda and so amanda

yeah so um i just wanted before we begin to provide just some framing for this item um and

this is a purely informational item and is not currently tied to a current staff work plan

As you know, the committee often receives informational presentations on topics of interest to the committee.

For those of you that have been on the committee a while, we had the Mountain View Mediators came and spoke to us.

We had the sister cities. And so these are, you know, topics of interest.

And obviously, public restrooms come up quite frequently in discussions.

And so really, the purpose today is informational, simply to learn about an approach that other cities are taking.

and because it is informational, no action will be taken today. So it's not a discussion about

next steps or recommendations. Really, any next steps will need to go through a city process with

city staff analysis before we would bring a action item forward. And so really, our discussion today

can be learning more, asking clarifying questions, but we want to be really careful to not

have the conversation move into evaluating or exploring implementation here in Mountain View

as that would really kind of move beyond what we're prepared to do and would kind of

overstep the next step, which would be staff analysis. So just a little bit of context there.

And with that, the Throne Labs team, welcome. Thank you so much. I'm plugged in. I'm mirroring

the next step here to occur.

No next steps.

No next steps.

Yeah.

I can also just join the Zoom meeting if that's easier.

Um.

Black screen.

That's nice.

Yeah, if you're able to join the Zoom meeting, I also can pull up your slides to get us started.

Whichever is easier for you.

Zoom pull up.

So if you want to email me the, or just tell me the code, I can type it in, whatever it works.

Yeah, it's 81419-I43379.

Just make sure to turn your ear out.

Okay.

Perfect.

Good.

Perfect. Sounds good. Well, thank you very much. Hi, everyone. My name is Ben Simons.

I am an account executive here at the labs. And this is...

Beth Heinzelman. I'm one of the co-founders and COO of Throne.

Thank you very much for having us today. Thanks, Monica and Amanda, for inviting us.

So I know we have about 10 minutes or so, so I'm just going to do a quick overview about

Throne, what we do, why we're doing it, talk about some data on some of our local deployments

here around Mountain View in the Bay, and then hopefully have some time for a Q&A and

get everyone's questions answered.

So to start off at the top, about five years ago now, one of our other co-founders, Fletcher,

he likes to say that his GI system is his worst system.

He started talking about that a little more publicly than most people are accustomed to.

And he kind of started to realize that a lot of people have their shared experience of

like having stress about where the next restroom is going to be, right?

Is there going to be an open, clean, functional public restroom for me to use?

Turns out there's actually also a ton of data on this and how this affects our communities.

I think one of the most interesting points is that approximately one in six Americans

have actually left a job for access to a restroom network.

So it does have a lot of real life effects.

So he sat down with Jess here and they said, okay, well, what are we going to do to solve this problem?

How can we find the solution here?

And really what they came to is how can we provide a public restroom that is delightful?

Those are not words that you hear together very often at all, public restroom and delight.

But that's really the key to why we have been so successful in these past years.

So fast forward to today, we've deployed about 90 thrones, our restrooms, across the country, about 18 of which are here in the Bay.

In total, we've had more than a million uses across that entire network.

So definitely a very successful implementation of public restrooms that are consistently providing delight.

And also, obviously, is according to our mission, expanding access to clean and delightful restrooms, which is very important to us.

So we've kind of gotten to this point today where we are providing what we call a self-contained smart public restroom.

So let's unpack that really quick.

Self-contained, this is important for a couple different reasons.

What it means is that we have no connections to water, sewer, or power.

So speed, really, really important.

We can do this within a couple of weeks.

and obviously cost. There's very little to no infrastructure cost required to set up a throne.

That said, we are not compromising on, again, thinking about the light, how we can provide a

positive restroom experience. So even though we have no utility connections,

drones do have clean and wastewater tanks. So they have a flushy toilet, they have a running water

sink, and we have solar. So we have ventilation, we have climate control, all those things that you

would expect to have in any bathroom that's going to bring you light and make you comfortable in

there. Self-contained, very important for those reasons. When we're thinking about deploying

into a downtown area, downtown corridor, the big advantage there obviously is that we can

move these around if necessary. We can talk a little bit more about the data we use to

make those decisions, but also a good consideration. Self-contained, really important for a couple

of reasons. When it comes to the smart side of things, I know that can kind of sound like

a little bit of a buzzword these days. We use technology specifically to improve the experiences

of folks using thrones or users. On the one hand, accountability is really important. There's no

public restroom out in the world right now or even a normal restroom in a business that can provide

any accountability to the folks who are using it. So someone can go into a public restroom and

destroy it and walk out and nothing will happen. With a throne, you're typically going to enter a

using your phone. You're going to scan a QR code. It's going to auto populate a text message on your

phone. You're going to hit send. And you're going to see this delightful door swing open or slide

open. Excuse me. And I'll show you a video in a second. What that means is if someone goes into

a throne and decides to smoke, we can actually text them and say, hey, you're misusing the throne.

We're going to restrict your access. You do continue to do that. Same thing if they stay

beyond the time limit. You might expect this means that we're just restricting tons of people

using a throne and no one's going to be able to use it anymore.

In reality, we see the opposite.

We see very, very few repeat offenders.

We're providing people with a really nice, clean, delightful bathroom.

So we consistently see much less vandalism in a throne than any other public restroom.

So kind of what these things add up to is we're providing a restroom that people in

like Beverly Hills and Palo Alto just love because of all these features and it's really

pleasant to use.

but we can also put it in like downtown LA next to Westlake MacArthur Park or Berkeley because we have this accountability feature built in.

Second part of that smart concept is around how we can maximize the efficacy of our servicing model.

So we provide all the servicing and all the maintenance for our thrones.

So we use data to maximize our effectiveness there.

So one, you enter a throne, we're going to ask you for a clean rating.

1 to 5, how does this look? We use that information along with historical usage data and real-time

usage data to say, hey, how likely is it that this throne needs to be cleaned? Every single time we

visit a throne, we're maximizing the efficiency of that visit. We don't have to visit a throne in

the morning or the evening to open it or close it. It's all automated. Our tanks all have sensors,

so we know exactly when they need to be filled and pumped. Every time we visit a throne,

we're maximizing that. What that ends up looking like is that thrones in the bay get cleaned on

average every 13 uses. And that in reality is what it takes to buy a restroom that is going to be

really comfortable and clean and so that when you have folks visiting downtown, spending money in

businesses, they are really enjoying their bathrooms. So that's kind of a summary of what

we're doing. I'm going to show a video because obviously a picture or video is worth a thousand

words. As mentioned, entering and throwing, you're typically going to use your phone,

which is going to scan a QR code. It'll auto populate that message.

That door is going to slide open, kind of Star Wars-esque, very fun. Again, clean, touchless,

flushing toilet, running water sink, ventilation, and again, solar. So when we place this,

we would take a forklift, place it down, install the solar, and have it activated within a couple

hours of placing it. We love our users. Our users love us. They let us know. And when

they don't love us, we find out very, very quickly and we respond to it very quickly.

We also do have phone list entry mechanisms for unhoused or elderly that can be used.

So data-wise, what this actually means in the real world, what's the effect we're able

to have. This is some broad data from across our entire network. On average, we see about

a 4.3 out of 5 on that cleanliness rating. So the ratings that our users are giving us

on a day-to-day basis when they're using a Throne. In community surveys, we see about

91% of people saying Throne is either good or great as a public restroom option. So again,

pretty unheard of for a public restroom. When it comes to like a real-world impact,

This number on the right-hand side here, 50% decrease in public defecation.

I don't know if that's an issue whatsoever in Mountain View, but we see consistently when we

provide folks with a clean public restroom, they're going to use it. And that's really the

whole point here, right? We want as many people as possible to use this restroom while still

providing a really good experience. Local to here, as I mentioned, we have about 18 thrones

across the bay, from Berkeley to South City, down here on the Caltrain line in Palo Alto, Redwood City, and Sunnyvale.

This is the kind of data that we're able to share with our customers.

But you're using a phone typically to enter a throne. We're able to know how many people

the sensors on board tell us how long they've stayed in there,

how long if they're returning for more than one visit. So across these three

Thrones on the Caltrain line here, we have 35,000 90 uses as of yesterday at like 7 p.m.

I think 6 or 7 p.m.

So, you know, a couple more now.

Average clean score is pretty typical from across our network, 4.23 out of 5.

And again, this number is one of my favorites, 12 uses between cleans.

I have a question.

Yeah, definitely.

So if I had a business and only 31% of people returned to visit my business again, I would be concerned.

So is this such a new way of doing business?

I didn't mean it that way.

Well, you did.

It is a very new way of doing business.

um so are you concerned about that or is that just a happenstance that not very many people

need to use a public this is actually very typical and i think one thing we're you can't

make someone want to go to the bathroom like they either have to go to the bathroom or not

and this is only from march so when we're in locations for longer um we see higher repeat

usage. But, you know, a lot of this is also like sports traffic. So Sunnyvale gets a lot of Levi's

stadium and people are maybe coming once, but they're not actually right there. So people,

we do see over time, like rideshare drivers, delivery people seek, find out about Throne and

seek them out. But for the most part, it's a, it's a merging of right place, right time.

And so 31% is pretty normal. And we see that as positive.

I have a question. You mentioned that there are mechanisms that can be used for the unhoused community.

Is it in all of them? And what does that look like?

Yeah, definitely. So for folks that do not have access to a phone, and it can be either a smartphone or a flip phone,

You can scan that QR code.

You can also just text the number on the throne to access it, or you can use our app.

But we do have a tap card program for folks that don't have phones.

And the way that works is that we distribute those tap cards to a local agency.

So it might be City Hall.

It might be a service provider.

And they assign those tap cards to those individuals specifically.

And then with the tap cards, are you able, like, okay, what if they go in there and they're

smoking?

How do you regulate that?

Yeah, and that's why our first, you know, our priority is that we have as many people accessing with phones because we can communicate directly with them.

Obviously, that's the disadvantage to a tap card, right?

We can't communicate with them.

Because that tap card is associated with a user ID on our end, we can still restrict that tap card's access.

The disadvantage being that we can't actually text them.

But essentially, they could go and get another tap card.

So when they go back to that, see that tap card is associated with that individual.

They would go back in and they would say, my tap card's been shut off.

And when they get that tap card, they're made aware of the guidelines around using a throne.

There would be a conversation at that time.

Are more of these at, like, train stations?

So I was at a Magical Bridge Park in Portland.

And they have, like, probably one of your competitors, which is a very nice experience, I have to say.

Like, you push the button, but they don't have, like, the whole card.

And I'm thinking like, I think our park should have more of them.

Cause usually you have some kid that's like, Oh my God, I need to pee, you know?

And so, um, so one, it's like, would you get a tap card to a kid?

And especially nowadays we're trying not to give our kids cell phones.

Right.

So then like, would you assign like a 12 year old a card or like, I don't know how it would

work.

And my second point is question is like in Japan, they have those little like things you

could like put your kid on and like strap them in.

Like, have y'all thought about adding one?

because that would be great.

So they're not just like touching all over their place.

Your three-year-old's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

I feel like you could just like shove it on the wall.

Like if you really have a little five-point harness.

Yeah, that's a suggestion.

Thank you.

I'm in Japan.

Yeah, that sounds cool.

I'll take that one, which is we have thought about it.

I think one of the things we're very cognizant of is accessibility.

And we do have a baby changing station in there.

unfortunately with the like footprint it's hard it's difficult to remain ADA compliant

and have that at that level just within the current footprint but it's definitely something

we can take back and and see if there are ones that are safe but higher.

So I have I had one question you answer already ADA compliance you know so it's that the other

one was in emergency if somebody went in there for some reason they passed out yeah you can't be

they can't answer yeah can the emergency services open that thing yeah good question so when you

enter a throne there's going to be a voice in english and then spanish that tells you there's

a 10 minute time limit after 10 minutes the door is going to open it also says it inside the throne

it's written in several places there's warnings at 5 8 and 10 minutes at 10 minutes the lights

are going to start flashing and a voice is going to tell you that the door is going to slide open.

10 minutes and 20 seconds, the door is going to open. That's designed for a couple reasons. And

one of those, the most important, is that if there's like a health emergency inside a throne,

someone's going to know really quickly, right? Because there's going to be flashing lights and

a voice playing and they're going to see that someone's in there having an emergency. So

compared to a traditional restroom where no one might know for hours that someone's in there

passed out and then when they do realize the fire department has to come in and bash down the door,

it's going to be really quick. And we have had that bumped in. And then I think the other thing

that's really important is we have 24 seven remote monitors that are looking at the data. They're

looking at the customer like inputs and supplies. So part of their job is, you know, helping

prioritize and dispatch clean cleaners and technicians. But part of it is also, you know,

there's a phone number right on the front. Emergency services can actually call and just

have it remotely opened too. We've also worked with some customers to have emergency entry

mechanisms on the throne with like a Knox box, if you guys are familiar with that, but

not all fire emergency services. How did you decide on 10 minutes?

We looked around to see what was kind of standard in restroom time limits, and it ranges from about five to 10 minutes. The five minutes is usually with like an in-person attendant where they have more discretion. And then that 10 minutes.

We are working on mechanisms that would allow us to provide additional time for people with mobility issues or disabilities.

The challenge for us is we don't want to be the arbiter of like who is deserving.

And so we're looking at ways to partner in order to do that.

Just some magazines.

Hmm?

All magazines.

You can take a magazine just for 10 minutes.

Does it wait until someone leaves to close the door again?

Because usually they're closed, right?

So it senses someone's walking out.

It senses that it's empty.

So if you have two people in there and one person walks out,

it's not going to close the door and have that other person still in there.

So what was the decision of having like the manual cleaners versus this other one I went to has like the,

we're cleaning right now.

Like it's like spraying the inside.

Like, so why is it this versus the other?

Yeah, definitely.

So one of the most important reasons we made that decision is around cost for infrastructure.

So a self-cleaning restroom is going to have to be connected to water sewer, which in the Bay is going to cost a lot of money.

Two, just like the actual efficiency and efficacy of that cleaning, right?

A self-cleaning restroom is spraying water everywhere.

It's pretty humid.

It gets pretty damp.

It gets pretty gross in there, to be honest, is usually people's complaint.

So our kind of concept is if we want the job done right, like we're just going to do it ourselves.

So our cleaner is going to come around and they're going to actually clean the unit and make sure that it's done right.

So speaking of the cleaning and the servicing, so I'm assuming you're contracting with some sort of an organization that will do that, or do you create your own staff?

Yeah, so we have a full local staff of cleaners and techs.

So we have an operations team that's based in Hayward, and then we have the 24-7 remote monitoring team.

But we do all that with folks that we hire here in the day.

And that's obviously really important, right?

Because you never know when something's going to happen in a public restroom.

So we need to be able to respond very quickly if something.

So just out of curiosity, do you charge for it?

Like, each person who walks in, how much is it used?

Or is it the, you charge the city?

Yeah, it is free to use a throne.

throne, typically we will be working with a city. And the way that works is that we assign each

throne a service tier, depending on the likely amount of use that it's going to get over a 12

month period. So based on that information, basically we say each service tier has a certain

average number of cleans. So for instance, our hub service tier averages three to four cleans

per day on a busy Saturday farmer's market. You're in Mountain View, we're probably clean it 10 times,

right? Because we're going to be looking at all that real time data on this is being used way

more frequently. And we're also using that historical data to say, hey, actually, it turns

out every Saturday at 10 a.m. this thing gets a ton of use. So we're going to make sure that it

gets pumped the night before and it's nice and clean before. And on your rainy Tuesday, it might

get cleaned once. So that's just a flat fee that we bill monthly for the year. So regardless of what

happens, the vandalism, any maintenance that we have to do is all covered under that service tier.

There's no hidden costs or anything if something gets damaged.

Do you make the usage data available to the city?

Yeah, our customers will, we essentially have quarterly reports with an account manager,

and they would share similar information to what we were showing earlier around clean ratings.

Uptime is a big one that people really care about.

So the percentage of time that the throne is available for people to use during opening hours.

So in Martinez, our uptime is about 98% right now,

which pretty much means that it's only not available when it's being cleaned.

I think that's been really useful. We've had customers that think it should be one place, but then we see the is kind of lower than expected and the community value is not as great. We've moved and had, you know, usage go up a lot. In Ann Arbor, we like moved a throne in the downtown two blocks and, you know, got about 15 more average uses per day.

And so I think also as you look at like the precision plan for downtown, like this could be a really useful tool to say like where should we be placing public restroom infrastructure.

Sorry, did I understand that it's not, it doesn't operate front of the platform?

Like it does.

And it has an extra.

Yeah, so our standard hours are 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.

But we do offer extended hours.

sometimes we have a few that are 24 7 um oftentimes like the la1 for 6 a.m to midnight

that's for staffing purposes for staffing purposes we don't have someone to go out and clean it at

3 a.m so and just the risk of misuse at 3 a.m versus what happens in places where there's like

nightclubs? We offer extended. So we can, we have units like, especially, you know, we work

with some transit agencies and their bus operators have routes that end at 2, 3 a.m. in the morning.

So we can keep. And I presume these are all like long term placements as opposed to like

extended event placements. Yeah. Typically we'll do a 12 month contract and that's not to say that

that can't be shifted during that contract.

We can throw away about 3,500 pounds.

So you're not gonna knock it over or take it away.

We can move it, but typically a 12 month contract,

which is typically necessary to get the kind of data

to really show that the use case is necessary.

Other than sensors,

presumably there's no video capability.

I mean, at first I was, well then you could,

Oh, no, that wouldn't be.

Do you want to go to the comments slide?

Yeah, definitely.

I was just curious where you're located or what's your home base?

Leadership is dispersed.

We all started it in the Bay Area.

The other two moved closer to family.

I'm actually from Portola Valley.

One of our other co-founders is from Redwood City.

But we have.

You have locations in D.C. and Ann Arbor.

Yeah, we have operations in Washington, D.C., Detroit, Ann Arbor, L.A. is our biggest market.

And then the Bay Area.

You have a bunch of demographics where you don't collect that information.

You don't want to be creepy.

Just wondering.

One of our core company values is don't be creepy.

Google's be good or whatever.

You mean they're old, Mono.

They're old.

They're the OG.

um but yeah so we we don't um sometimes we'll do we'll partner with a city to do like a survey

where we where people can contribute that information but yeah in general we we try to

make it as easy and low data as possible so um i'm too sorry did you don't know so like in la

where you have a lot of these like do i have like a throne app that i'm like where is the nearest

toilet or is it mostly like you just happen you're like i have to go to the bathroom you're looking

around and there's one yeah yeah so we do have an app it's called the throne bathroom network so

everyone download if they want to check it out so it shows you where each throne is located

you can it'll send you to navigate to that throne it'll tell you when it's how clean it is so the

last clean rating that i've received um so yeah you know if you want to drive five minutes out

of your way or not i mean when you gotta go walk but i can see the delivery driver one i have a

family member that drives for UPS and she like plans her route where bathroom access is.

Starbucks to Starbucks.

Right.

Yeah.

It's a real challenge.

Yeah.

One of my favorite things to do is, and this is not being creepy, is like when we're doing

a demo at a throne, just like sitting there and watching people come and use it.

And the number of people drivers that you see just like pull up and use it because they

know exactly where it is.

also how like the accountability tech really just like throws you for a loop because you can it's

so easy to judge people when they're going into a restroom right i'll sit there and watch someone

who like looks you know on how it's going in all first when i first started working here i was like

oh boy like we're about to have a tour and this person's going into the throne and it's like

consistently just like really cool to see people use the bathroom and then just walk out and you

like go in there and it's sparkling clean it's just like cool like it's so easy to judge people

I saw someone hit the 10 minute limit the other day in Berkeley before we were recording a podcast.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

And he just like changed clothes for the day.

And I think that's one of the other things is it's large enough that it allows for people to do that.

Also in in D.C., just to kind of bring it to the business case as well.

We do hear a lot from small businesses, especially cafes and small restaurants.

What a big pain point people are not customers asking to use their restrooms are.

It actually takes staff time and staff focus away from the core business.

And so we did a survey with a third party in D.C. and found that 97 percent of small businesses supported more public restrooms.

And we found in kind of qualitative surveys when we've gone around to downtown areas where there are thrones that people really value being able to have something to point people to.

So they can say no, but they can say, but there's a restroom right down the street.

So as you think about that.

I was at one time I was working out on downtown and a person ran in and locked themselves in the bathroom in the workout place to use the bathroom.

It was totally like random.

Everyone was just working out and it just like, whew.

Yeah, yeah.

How about the sound treating?

if somebody tap on it to get out of there you can can they reach to it or sound proofing is

good so you can hear in and out um you can hear a little bit you know not so much that you know

it's not like embarrassing to be in there and using it and someone's standing outside but you

can hear if someone was tapping on the door or like walking in there we have applied a lot of

kind of innovation techniques i think we came at this from a curious perspective and

And, you know, one, we've included a lot of behavioral science elements, like the wallpaper looks nice, but it's also like easy to pass, fix quickly.

And it deters writing on it because it's very like patterned.

And we are text just carry like three cut leaves.

So if somebody burns it or slashes it, cover it up.

So kind of broken window theory.

But we also had there's a condition of shy peeing where people can't pee in public.

or public restrooms.

And so we had somebody from a foundation

that works on that come and test it out.

And he loved it because there's actually music

and you feel like it's very private.

But at the same time, ultimately we have control.

And at the end of 10 minutes, there's lights flashing

and there's a way to get to move people along

who might otherwise just want to like camp out or hang out.

You said it flashes lights and all those things.

I was just thinking about, would you put something in there that if the light flushes, there are three people waiting outside or something, four people now, two persons, so they can keep going faster.

Yeah, I mean, we still want it to be a delightful experience, not like a, oh, my God.

Two minutes to self-destruct.

Yeah, the door opens.

We have a lot of interesting conversations about design.

so i want to be conscious of time one other item but i know and i don't know if there's anything

else any other slides you want to just um no we can we're happy to send over the the um study that

jess mentioned on local businesses um that's that's great and they have offered if there

are people who are interested in going over to sunnyvale um to look at the the throne toilet

Is it at the train station or where is it at?

The Palo Alto one at the train station also?

On the west east.

On the east side.

The train.

Across from Amazon.

Okay.

Across the Amazon.

On the Amazon side.

On the Amazon side.

Got it.

So we're going to head to the Sunnyvale throne after this.

If that works for people and they want to join, we can open up the back and show you how everything works.

If that sounds good.

I know we just can't have more than half the people.

Right.

I can't make it.

I want to go.

I will say they're very cool.

I'm sure.

I just can't make it.

Let me go for breakfast.

Let me go for breakfast.

So just I know this isn't this is an informational item, but if the committee wanted to either get this on a work plan or make a recommendation to council or through you to public works, what would be an appropriate process for that?

I think including it in our work plan item, when that comes, when we're developing our next year work plan, that would be the right time to bring this.

I certainly will follow up with.

And of course, you know about it.

And somebody saying, oh, well, you know.

Yeah.

Stuff does happen without committee engagement.

Well, and I know, you know, certainly public restrooms are part of what we've talked about in terms of amenities for the larger picture for downtown.

But things that we have to look at is, okay, what are the budget constraints?

What are the staffing implications?

All of that.

So those are the things that will happen with staff analysis.

So we'll follow up and set a meeting with Ben and Jessica to follow up.

But yeah, in terms of committee action, I would say for us to discuss it as part of

our work plan makes the most sense.

Or have another survey.

Have another survey?

Okay.

Which only also takes staff time.

Thank you.

Yeah, of course.

Thank you for coming over.

Yeah.

Great to see you guys again.

Yeah.

Okay.

Again, still no public on the line.

So we don't have to do public input.

So item 7.2 is the 2026 committee calendar schedule.

And if you want to address that, Amanda did attach the proposed schedule for next year.

which I think was what?

Six meetings.

Six meetings.

This is what we did, Chuck,

at our last committee meeting

to move down to six meetings.

They're slightly odd.

Like there's not a...

It's not every other month.

It's not a super simple cadence.

And I'll just...

I have the slides from last time

if we just want a quick look at it.

So it's not every other month

because we do take a break.

April, May, June is very heavy.

And then it goes after.

Right.

So, yes.

So July and August is when the council doesn't meet and it's a good time for staff to take

vacation.

So those were pre-existing.

So it's really just taking away the black or what where we didn't meet in the past was

January, July and August.

And we discussed also not meeting March, October and December.

So we meet February and then three months in a row because we have a lot of action that we take during April, May and June.

We have to renew the parking district and the business improvement area and we have to create our work plan.

So all of that happens in there and then we meet September and November.

So we'd be down to six months a year. But again, it's a little bit of a wonky cadence.

And this is the regular meeting scheduled. There could be a special meeting.

call a special meeting as needed. Yeah. This would, yeah. And so. And then the staff will

send us the briefing about like what's happening in December lighting and all those things. Yeah.

Absolutely. Well, we can email those out. Yeah. Thanks.

Any questions about this? If not, is there a motion to about the meeting schedule? So

Marisol, is there a second?

Pamela is the second.

Any further discussion?

All of you say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Aye.

Aye.

Okay.

Eight.

Committee staff comments, questions?

I have a comment.

So we have quite a few committee members who are terming off.

And two out of three aren't here, but one is here.

I wanted to really have a sincere thank you, Marina, for all of your time on the committee.

She is totally turned out.

As of the end of this meeting, she will no longer be on the downtown committee.

So a huge thank you.

I'm going to need your badge back.

from the city, from staff for your time on the committee.

It's been really valuable having your perspective.

And you've been our link to the Downtown Business Association,

which has been a really important connector.

So there's been some changes happening recently.

So I won't be qualifying to be a downtown.

So that's why the reason why I'm going to be.

But you can always come as a member of the public.

No, absolutely.

We used to have regular publics.

She can be an emeritus.

There we go.

Thank you so much, Marina.

And I know, you know, I mean, Monte Carlo is still very active in Mountain View.

And it will be.

It will be.

And the chamber and all of that.

Also turning out are David Lynn and Anne Kavanaugh.

And so we want to, neither of them are here today, but a huge thank you to them as well for their service and their inputs to the committee.

And what are we doing for a replacement?

We do have a new...

I'm sitting here.

Welcome.

This comes over to me.

I'm trying to throw you.

So, yes, starting January 1st, we will have a new committee member.

And there were a number of committee members who were...

You and I were reappointed, as was Jamil.

And was my husband.

So can we get his name?

Oh, yeah. Do you want to introduce yourself?

You said I have to stay anonymous.

No, no. You're not anonymous.

You're a member of the public at the moment.

My name is Dennis,

and I'm the food and beverage

director at the Amesville Hotel.

Oh, okay. That's wonderful.

Great.

Bring a lot of expertise when it comes to

restaurants and stuff like that.

Hospitality will be a good world to have you

join, your perspective.

Dennis will be officially joining in January,

So at the moment, he's just a community member joining the conversation.

So we did have a member of the public here all day.

Oh, I guess.

Is it not downtown?

Is it a downtown member?

It's not like a business at large.

Business at large?

Okay.

So we're still missing a community.

Downtown people.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes.

There are still some positions that are open.

Yeah.

And do we have interviews scheduled?

We do not currently have any applicants.

I know Jeanette was very interested from M Design.

You know, then there was the whole fiasco about are you from Mountain View or not?

So we'll do some follow-ups afterwards.

There are people we know that might be interested.

Yeah.

So what position?

So we're looking downtown business owner or building holder.

And what else do we need?

I'll have to follow up.

I know for sure we're needing in that category.

I think we might be needing.

Yeah, I think that's the only category we're looking for.

Yeah, I think so.

so a downtown business owner or property owner got it okay yeah

great any other for um you've got oh yeah you've got a tour no actually we didn't do a tour in

november because nobody signed up as a friday before so i pulled it back so anyway and we will

not have a walking tour in december but we will have the tree lighting is monday right very

exciting and i saw some worker bees setting up reefs um downtown and they were so excited

and they said make sure you go look at the christmas tree and so it was really fun to see

these grown-up adults all excited and very festive the lights look nice too have they always been on

cast i feel like they like this the lights over the street yeah yeah yeah yeah they've been there

for a couple years a couple years i don't have a good attention they said there were more lights

coming on Castro Street.

Besides the light, they have these stars.

I counted five.

And the snowflakes.

And the gearboxes.

How many downtown

business owners do we normally have?

On the committee?

Three.

I'll have to look it up.

We're allowed to have.

And then on our...

We have one.

I think there might be two more, but I'll come for...

Well, David was one, wasn't he?

Yeah, he was David.

The Eagle, is that a business?

I can't remember what his business was because he was sort of a pop-up guy.

And then Sandy.

Oh, right, and we had Moni.

Yeah.

So there are five downtown property or business owners.

three business at large,

three community member at large,

and one association.

Five downtown,

three business at large,

and three.

So, Mara, so you're probably considered

a downtown business being the DBA?

I'm trying to think where the chamber

one. I think Peter is

just, is.

I thought we had specific

language for them.

DBA falls into, and chamber fall into

one of those categories.

I'll have to look at it.

If you're looking for

downtown business owners, then

some outreach if you're specifically

even a cell phone.

What did you have on?

Yeah, I just have one thing

for Amanda. I think maybe it's a good idea

if Siri can make

a drone video of those other lights,

those two blocks.

It's very nice to help people

how it looks like.

see it in person

see it in person

update our

video with a nice holiday

yeah and then our

February meeting will be

our hallmark movie

chair and vice chair

you guys can't do it again

I'm still on

yes

I'm back but it's all up

to you guys so

anyways anything else for number 8

in which case

number nine

we will stand adjourned until

what did we say February

yes have a great holiday

thank you

thank you

get one of these

those are pretty good

yeah

official

I would recommend going over

and checking out the throne and Sunnyvale

they are

interesting

I can say, I know from prior city managers, why would we ever want to do public?