We have one member of the public.

If anyone from the public would like to speak, you can raise your hand.

This will be the general public for any of the public.

Okay, continue.

That's good.

Then number five, upcoming agenda topics.

If you have suggestions for future.

Nothing for me.

Then I was wondering, Kirsten, the unfinished business number six,

is that fairly quick?

Shall we do that now?

Or shall we?

We can push it.

Nobody has to wait.

Yeah, we can push it to the end.

It is fairly quick, but we can.

We can push it after.

Okay, sounds good.

So then moving on to new business number 7.

7.1, lot 12, public overview and appointment of a talk.

Yeah.

Committee.

We are fast.

Okay.

So I want to introduce Deanna and Caitlin.

So Deanna is in the housing department.

Caitlin is part of the developer team working on the Lot 12 project.

So let me start share the PowerPoint and then I'll let Deanna get into this.

So I'll introduce myself again, Deanna Talavera. I'm the Senior Housing Officer with the Housing Department here in Mountain View.

This evening, we'll be walking the Visual Arts Committee through the Lot 12 project and provide some site background and project history.

We'll talk a little bit about how we got here, the development progress to date, the public art requirement, and then what your role will be.

And then there will be a short presentation by the ALTA and related team.

So here is an image of the site.

We can go back just one.

Sorry.

You'll see that it's centrally located in the downtown just across from City Hall,

the Performing Arts Center and the Library.

It's within walking distance to the Caltrain.

train and um and it's really making it you know it's well located for affordable housing here in

mountain view go to the next slide um in 2018 the city council prioritized this site for redevelopment

some of the priorities for the site were that it be a fully affordable housing project

There were several priorities in the RFP that was issued in 2019.

That it be fully affordable, that it include up to 120 units, that it, you know, consist of excellent architecture and design.

And what was really important to the City Council is that it included some placemaking and a public art component.

component. So following the RFP process, the city council selected Alta Housing and Related

California, a joint team to lead the development of the site. It's a 1.5 acre site. The new address

for the project is 424 Bryant Street. So we'll no longer be referring to it as lot 12 moving forward.

Of the 120 units, it'll be breakdown between studios, one bedrooms, two bedrooms, and three

bedrooms, which was really important to the city council because it was important that this could

serve households, including families and children. Most of our affordable housing stock had been

primarily studios and one bedroom units. So we are making a lot of progress. It'll serve households

up to 60% of the AMI. And just as a point of reference, for a family of four annually, that

would mean that their income could not exceed about $100,000. So the development will include

or serve a diverse range of residents. It'll include 10 units of permanent supportive housing,

which will serve formerly homeless families. It'll include 15 IDD units that is consisting

of households that include a person with intellectual or developmental disabilities,

and 20 households will, 20 of the units will be reserved for rapid rehousing.

And that's a program for those who are experiencing or exiting homelessness.

So here's a little bit about the development progress.

Some of this predates me, but Randy is here to fill us in if I forget anything.

As we said, in 2018, the city council prioritized the site for redevelopment.

The city issued an RFP soliciting proposals in 2019.

We selected Alta and related housing for development.

We went back to council a few times to negotiate key deal terms, to appropriate funding.

As the Alta team will describe later in their presentation,

there were some modifications and additional funding that was added to the project.

The city's total contribution to the project, not including land, is $23.45 million.

The county is also a big contributor to the project with $19.75 million.

And today, we are here to talk about the public art plan in anticipation of the groundbreaking, which is, you know, next month, I think, or February, January, February.

So the development priorities included, as we mentioned, a requirement for public art.

The developers who submitted the proposals had to demonstrate how their project would facilitate placemaking and add to the community.

so this could have been in a few ways but public art was a strong council priority

so the developer team submitted a plan and this plan includes and was required to include

the process and timeline for selecting artists and the artwork that it identified proposed art

locations and types within their site plan that it included areas where the city could provide

feedback and that they complete the art installation before the city issued its certificate of

occupancy. So before anybody could move in, we have to see that the art is completed and installed.

Here is an excerpt from the RFP that said, overall, the purpose is to ensure that new

development in key civic locations contributes meaningfully to the public realm, that it supports

our community identity and reflects the values of inclusion, connection, and renewal. So that is

what each team was given as a starting point.

And now I'm going to hand it over to Kristen

to talk a little bit about your role.

Yeah, so this is really exciting

for the Visual Arts Committee,

because as you all know,

and as we're working on the public art strategy,

we don't have a percent for art

and private development policy.

So this is really an opportunity

for the Visual Arts Committee

to get involved in a private project.

So VAC is being invited to give input

throughout the project.

We're asking that you create an ad hoc committee

to work with the developer team.

And the ad hoc committee will ultimately help

give input on the request for proposals.

There will be a short list of artists

and then you'll be asking for the artists

to create some designs.

And then we'll ultimately come back to the full VAC

for final input on the project.

So I think the full timelines looking at the full BAC would review the final design artwork about a year from now, quarter four of 2026.

So there will be periodic meetings throughout the year that the ad hoc committee would be involved in.

And then the BAC will see kind of that final output.

But and then I'll let I think, Caitlin, you're going to touch more on kind of the process, but there will be some other public outreach components that are involved in this, too.

But we have this expert committee that works on selecting public art in the community.

And so getting your input throughout the process will be really important and a really fun way to kind of figure out how we can kind of get involved more in the private development world.

So we can just go ahead and share the share your side, Caitlin.

Great. I just sent you the latest.

OK, I made a few last minute updates today.

Well, while we're waiting for the presentation to be pulled up, I'll go ahead and introduce myself and my team.

I'm Caitlin Roth, project manager at Related California.

We're one half of the development team partners with Alta Housing to develop the 100% affordable housing project here.

We're really excited to be partnering with the city on this project.

and we're also really excited to be talking about public art and presenting our plan to you with

plans to return to you shortly on this public art. So what we intended to do tonight was to present

an overview of the project to you, give you a little bit more information in addition to what

Deanna just shared, followed by an overview of our public art plan and a timeline on when we'll

be coming back to you for additional feedback. Randy, would you like to start? Okay. I'm going

to move up here because I just feel... Thank you guys. Oh, and actually, I'm sorry, Randy and

too, you should also introduce yourselves. Randy Suda, I'm the president and CEO of Allta Housing.

We're an off-profit portal of mountaineering provider headquartered in Palo Alto, but do a number of projects here in Mountain View.

And my name is Tung Nguyen, Vice President of Development, Shader Lake. It's a fun day.

Okay, so I'm going to be fairly quick because Deanna did such a great job giving you the background on the project.

But as she mentioned, this is a partnership really between not only related in Alta Housing, but importantly, the city of Mountain View in the county of Santa Clara and the Housing Authority.

Also, Destination Home, which is another nonprofit organization based here in Silicon Valley.

It's really taken this constellation of organizations to come together to make this project a reality.

actually the back the starting date Deanna goes a little bit before you had in your slides

so it actually started May of 2019 with the RFQ truth be told we should you may remember this

we actually started this in 2008 yeah and yeah that's so sometimes that predates me

Yeah, you have to be my age.

Okay, we can move on.

So, yeah, I wanted to just give a quick introduction to some of our projects that are in the surrounding area

and also give just a flavor of some of the public art we've incorporated into some of our previous projects.

Just quickly, picture one and picture four going left to right are of Related's project.

The first one is a related project on El Camino in Palo Alto.

So you may recognize that if you've driven down El Camino near Page Mill Road.

That's on the west side of the street.

And then the second is actually a fairly new project in Sunnyvale.

So those are two local related projects.

And then pictures two and three are here at Mountain View.

Picture two is our Eagle Park, all those Eagle Park projects at the corner of El Camino and Rich.

And then picture three is our Luna Vista community.

That's actually just around the corner from downtown on El Camino.

And you can go on to the next slide.

So here's some imagery of public art that both of our organizations have incorporated.

I'll speak to ALTAs, which is the slide on the bottom there.

That's the artwork that we incorporated into our Luna Vista project.

And what that is is a series of roughly 22 glass panels that embed artwork that was designed.

Let me get the organization by the Morgan Autism Center.

Clients of the Morgan Autism Center.

So we asked their clients to actually design artwork and we incorporated their art into these glass panels that range from floors two through five on our building.

And the amazing thing about this is that this faces west.

So during the afternoon, the sunlight shines through these glass panels and actually casts color into our common area and our lobby areas on each one of the floors of our building.

So, you know, it's something we've been really thrilled with our residents love.

And we were happy to partner not only with the Morgan Autism Center, but it was a relationship that was really facilitated by yet another local nonprofit group.

And that's the Community School of Music and Art.

We had a conversation with them looking for ideas on public art.

And they came up with they had this suggestion, made the introduction and it became a reality.

So did you want to say anything about Related?

Sure.

I'll briefly mention the top left corner photo is another project that Related worked on that I actually worked on.

It's called Capusa at the Upper Yard.

And what we're looking at is a two-story window into the community room that also looks out onto the adjacent Balboa Park BART station.

And for this project, we led a very similar process to actually what we've proposed here of putting out an RFQ followed by an RFP to procure a local artist to integrate public art into our project.

And we actually, through that process, were able to find an artist, Aaron De La Cruz, who actually lives just three blocks away from the project.

And he specializes in these forms, which represent his three children.

He initially actually proposed a wrap on the facade of the building.

And in working with us, we determined that we were actually able to fabricate a sculpture to be inset into this large window.

And we're really proud of it and like it because it's such a successful integration.

And it was a community led process and is a lasting asset.

So we're particularly proud of that one.

And then the other photo is Meridian, the Sunnyvale project that we finished about two years ago.

And for this project, we, I don't believe, had a public arts requirement, but we did work with a local artist to produce that mural that's adhered to two of the facades within the residential courtyard.

So he produced those images and then we worked with him to translate them into an appropriate, like, weather resistant wall covering that was then installed.

And we actually also included more of his artwork in the community room as well.

So we're also we're really happy that we were able to successfully incorporate a local artist's work on that project as well.

project as well. I think, Deanna, you did a great job kind of covering the information

about the project. This view of the project is from the corner of California and Bryant

and really focuses on one of the plazas that will be incorporated into the project. This is

and actually a location that Caitlin will be talking about more when she gets into the details of our public art plan.

I think we can move on to the next slide.

This is just a quick snapshot of the ground floor of the project.

You can see the different kinds of rooms and uses that we have on the first floor.

Not only a number of apartments, but some of the amenity spaces, the bike room, the leasing office,

the two multi-purpose spaces that are near the corner.

What this does, oh, and the mid-block passageway or muse

that will be open to the public during daylight hours.

So it's a way of just beginning to,

I know Wayne likes using the word,

Wayne Chen likes using the word permeability,

allowing the public to access parts of this community.

So I'm very happy that we were able to incorporate that.

But what this slide doesn't show is actually on the second floor, we have a really expansive courtyard for our residents.

And that also incorporates other community rooms that are for the residents' use.

So something we're especially proud of when you look at all the open space in our project,

and it actually totals up over half an acre of open space between the courtyards that are on the ground floor and the mid block crossing and then the resident courtyard on the on the second level.

It's over half an acre of space, something we're really, really proud of.

And I think that's it. Right. Go on to you.

Sure. Okay. So we wanted to take a moment to mention that we are working with Argus,

who is our branding and art consultant on this project. Jeff and Stephanie, the two folks that

we're working with, unfortunately, were not able to make it tonight, but we wanted to share a bit

of their work and our history of working with them. We have worked with them on multiple projects

to develop a brand for our projects

that speak to the positive

and uplifting nature of the affordable housing

and also to create cohesion,

I guess is the word I'll use,

with the city's goals of making sure

that this is appropriate

and I'm losing my words, Vienna,

but you mentioned it earlier.

Placemaking.

Yes.

Thank you.

We love working with the Arias

because their branding is very thoughtful

and the art that we're able to come up with

when working with them,

we feel really contributes to the placemaking aspects

of the affordable projects that we're doing.

we want these projects to be integrated with the community and also additive.

So there's one of our favorite projects, Meridian and Sunnyvale. Again, on the lower corner is a

project in San Francisco that we worked with Argus on. And then the top is actually not a project

that we worked on with Argus, but I included it because it's a lovely example of the ways that

that they've incorporated, incorporated public art

and artful signage into the architecture of a project.

Okay, so as we set out to develop the project's brand

with Argus, we sat down and thought about what themes

this project represents and landed on warm, hopeful,

and active as the appropriate colors

from the brand should be built.

warm because the project should foster a sense of connection between the residents,

among the residents and with the larger community. Hopeful because this project

presents an opportunity for stability and economic mobility for our residents and active as well

due to the geography of the site. We are so, so fortunate to be located in downtown Mountain View,

an extremely walkable transit oriented highly amenitized neighborhood and we want um the

project to have that theme as well so uh this is the uh first time we're ever announcing the

new name for lot 12. we won't be calling it lots oh so we're not gonna call it

What does it mean?

What does it mean?

The ALTA and Related team works with Argus

to think of names that are built on our themes of warm,

hopeful, and active, as well as the features

of the architecture of this site and the opportunity

that the project presents.

I landed on Corso, the Italian word.

We landed on that because it builds on the lovely mid-block passageway that the city really wanted and that Randy mentioned is going to be a nice, wonderful green relief from the three busy frontages that we have at this project site.

And it also speaks to the path that our residents will take and the path to stability, path to prosperity and their ability to thrive in this community.

So is where we've landed. And from that, we also developed our logo, which are these two, which is a concentric circle separated into halves.

And we really liked the idea that those circles represent like rings of connection and the impact that this project will have on residents and community members alike.

Okay, so that's where we've landed with our project brand.

And from there, we'll use the brand to inform our public art plan and our public art selection.

So, as noted in the public art plan that we shared, our goal here is really to create

a meaningful opportunity to integrate community-centered and community-informed public art that is complementary

to the themes of the project, contributes to the placemaking of the site, and really

strengthens the connection for the project with the surrounding neighborhood.

So, before I get into the details of the plan, I figured it would be good to orient ourselves to the potential artwork locations that we've identified.

As Randy mentioned, we think that that most prominent corner of the project, Bryant in California, where we have a bit of public open space in a lovely landscaped courtyard, presents a very nice opportunity to integrate some public artwork.

We, in our RFQ, don't intend to be highly prescriptive in what that medium of public artwork should be, but we think it is most likely that it will end up being a sculpture with a footing in that courtyard.

So that is our first contemplated location.

And then because we have this mid-block passageway that is a really nice feature of the project, and because we are naming the project Corso, in part because of that public space, we also have identified two locations along that western frontage of the project that we think would also be,

that would also benefit from a public art installation.

And we were also not wanting to be highly prescriptive there

in terms of what that medium will be,

but we think it is likely that that'll be some sort of mural

or other treatment to those walls.

And because that was bird's eye view,

and sometimes it's helpful to look at things from an elevation.

I'll just note that this is the Bryant California Street project facing Bryant,

and that most prominent corner is highlighted in yellow there.

And then because it's always nicer to look at a rendering versus a bird's eye plan or an elevation,

this is a rendering from our landscape architect of what this public courtyard is designed to look like.

And we think that area that's highlighted in yellow will be the most successful location for public art that avoids necessary site triangles for traffic that's turning while also still being a prominent location.

Oh, and here we are back at the bird's eye view.

Now I'll show you an elevation of the mid-block passageway.

So this is the backside of the project that faces the existing multifamily and single-family homes.

And we do have these two spaces that are about 14 feet high.

So it's just a little over one story and probably about 25 feet long.

And this will the landscaping isn't shown in this elevation, but this will be a landscaped muse.

And we think that this presents a really great opportunity to add warmth and vibrancy to the space.

if we were to incorporate public art here that the community could take in while they

get some relief from the busier frontages of the site while they cross from California

to Mercy Street.

Oh, and we've already shown this image multiple times, but just as a precedent, we thought

it would be successful to do something like this at those two locations.

Okay, so moving from our contemplated locations to our selection process.

When we set out to do public art procurement on a process, we are grounded in two principles.

The first is that we're taking a community-centered approach, and the second is that we'll co-lead

between the development team, the art consultant,

and we'll be coming back to our advisory committee

at Key Milestones to receive your input.

So from there, I'll talk a little bit

about our proposed timeline that Kirsten already mentioned.

So the project is breaking ground

in late January, early February.

Soon after that, we intend to issue an RFQ

that the art consultant will draft.

That RFQ will be a true request for qualifications.

So we'll be distributing that

to the Art Consultants Network of Artists.

We'll be asking the city to post it on their website

and distribute to their existing list

of interested artists as well.

And from there, we'll be asking folks to submit their works.

And we as the development team, art consultant,

and members of the BAC will review all of those submissions

and from there create a short list of folks who we think

have art or have the capacity or ability to propose artworks

that we think would compliment the themes of the project

and in mediums that realistically could be translated

into something that is long lasting and maintainable by the project.

From there, we'll issue our RFP.

We'll request the small group of artists to actually propose what they would design for the project.

We'll do another screening to make sure all of those are appropriate

and then reach out and have a few focus group sessions to gather community input.

We think as one of these focus group sessions, it would be great to engage another advisory committee, in particular, the youth advisory committee.

That's something that we did on Capuso, the project that was on the screen earlier with the large sculpture.

and it was so successful to receive actually very thoughtful input from high school students

who had an interest in art and we just really appreciated it and it informed our selection

process. So we'll have those focus group sessions, the members, I believe it's three members of the

the BAC as proposed in the art plan,

the development team and the art consultant

will review all the community feedback.

We will review the proposed artworks again

for their ability to be fabricated,

their ability to be installed, the budget,

any concerns we may have about the artist's ability

to meet the project's timeline

in terms of the scope of work that they're committing to.

And then we'll come back to the full BAC

with a recommendation on who we would like to proceed with

and which artworks we'd like to proceed with.

That takes us to the end of 2026, as Kirsten mentioned,

after which we will submit our formal permit

to the planning department.

Following that approval in November 2027

is when we'll need to start fabricating.

And then as Deanna mentioned, before occupancy of the project, we will install.

So that was our very abbreviated overview of the processing timeline.

And that's it from our team.

So as always, questions first.

And then we'll start the discussion.

So to get more of a visual here.

So behind the passageway, so on the other side of that passageway, what's there?

So on the other side of that passageway, we have the end of the project's property line.

There are existing retaining walls and fences that separate the city's property from the adjacent private properties.

So beyond that is multifamily apartments on the Mercy Street frontage.

It's a fence, basically.

It's a fence.

And it'll be landscaped.

Another question regarding that.

This is what we see when we're on the views, looking at it.

How about from within the project, what will the residents see at that point?

Will they have a clear view of that yellow wall that you have or not?

Only as they are walking through the passage.

It's facing the passage.

Yes.

But not inside.

But on the other side, what's on the other side?

Oh, on the other side, actually, on the other side at the ground level is the parking garage.

So the wall on one side faces out to the mid-block passageway, and that's where we're contemplating the art.

And then on the other side of that wall is the interior of the parking garage.

Okay, so the residents won't see that wall because it would be a garage.

Another quick clarification here.

So this you have, you're highlighting basically the wall, but if you go to the elevation,

that on the next slide, that seems to be implying like it's extending.

Actually, no, never mind.

Okay, never mind.

I guess I was misinterpreted.

So this would be basically like a wall-mounted intervention for this.

It wouldn't be extending like as an arch or anything.

over the space, correct?

No, that is right.

We want to maintain any clearance necessary for fire access or anything.

So you would only be viewing this if you're in that space.

You couldn't, for example, see it from the street looking in.

No, it would be a bit too deep as well.

Then I should mention, I didn't point this out,

but the mid-block passageway is about 15 feet wide.

So it's not particularly narrow, but it's not going to be like,

you won't be able to see that deep into it along this western frontage from the street

so so from california you're walking all on california street you probably won't be over

on mercy you won't probably be able to see into it i'm guessing you can walk through you can walk

through yeah but if i don't walk through will i be able to see any of the yard on those walls or

Or is it really just you?

It depends what it is.

Yeah.

As you're walking east, you could probably see a little bit,

but as you approach closer and closer, you would lose sight.

Well, the part that's the lower right yellow,

that's going to be at the corner of California.

So that's a key corner from CVS.

So it'll be open to everyone to see.

Okay.

Okay.

Very good.

I have a bunch of questions.

are we talking about multiple art pieces or just one in our notes that there was the budget right

that you haven't mentioned would that cover you know those three all three is this an either or

or three locations possibly also inside you know that we might not be involved but inside art

like in the multi-purpose room like more like you know you make pictures on the wall things like

that is that like how much art are we talking about basically sure so I'll um maybe back up

and say yes we've in our art plan we've carved out a 75 000 budget for the public art process

and procurement um and fabrication so we would really love to do multiple artworks we've tried

to craft the art plan and we'll craft the rfq so as to not be so restrictive that we

put ourselves in a box um because the ultimately the number of artworks that we will be able to

install will depend on like the mediums and the cost of fabrication um so if we go if we're able

to go with murals at the minbock passageway we'd probably be able to do something more substantial

along the corner but um we didn't want to say we'll only do one or we're going to do all three to

avoid putting ourselves into a box in case something comes along that we really like that

is more expensive or vice versa but ideally all three we would love to do all three both

let's say both we would love to do both um and then in regards to the interiors uh we

wouldn't have

public art there

because it's not

then it's no longer benefiting the public

but it is benefiting the residents and we will

have

art on the walls

but that's not included

in the public art

because it's not public

are you considering

apart from this

so not spending this money

but we were talking

about

about like sort of designer kind of benches, you know, that are not like just the regular,

but you can get some nice, you know, or bike wax or what have you, you know, lamps or that

are not like the normal kind of boring, but so a bit more kind of arts form kind of.

Are you considering to implement that as well?

Yes, we've had a few iterations as this project, when this project first was conceptualized back in 2019 for the pandemic before the economic environment that we're in today.

we had contemplated many high in the sky artful features for this project since then we've had to

scale back on on some particularly in the ways that you mentioned like the lovely like custom

rates and street furniture like public art so that we have scaled back on we still

in our design, I think, have included what we think to be contemporary, lovely

features, but not everything will be as artful as one's contemplated. And that really is

due to the need for the project to value engineer out items in order to be competitive for the

um state financing that we had to secure and are those designs already uh i mean are those things

designed already like the benches and landscaping that you're using we do we went because in order

that the public art can be you know mindfully integrated in however the environment looks like

is that already so so that the group that will select art knows how that area will look like

definitely yeah definitely that's always a little bit of a challenge when we do city projects that

we are first and all those considerations usually come after so i think in one learning that we got

is like those things should happen at the same time in this case because we are we need to pull

building permits and construction permits.

So you had to. Yeah.

That's good news.

We learned our lesson.

I'm assuming the

clarification with the art

consultant that you've worked with

or the firm that you've worked with.

I assume they have a list

of artists that they

have worked with in the past

that they like,

et cetera. I'm assuming that

they'll be when they go through the rfp process they'll also be looking to reach out to those

folks so you have a i'm assuming they have a kind of pool of folks that they work with that they

trust okay the local local artists they have a list of bay area artists and we would like to

augment their list by also um advertising to the city's um existing list of artists yeah it was a

a lot of Mountain View, you know,

Palo Alto, you know, artists

are very local.

Yeah, that would be nice to

get those folks involved.

Yeah, I think we would

do a lot of outreach.

Definitely prioritize, obviously,

outreach to the local

community, so Mountain View,

Palo Alto area, but as Caitlin

mentioned, you know, we don't want to limit

ourselves to something that might be

beyond, so they may

do additional outreach to other artists,

but we definitely had a preference and a priority to make sure we're outreaching to our local art community.

And if the VAC has artists in mind, then we would also love to invite you to distribute it as well.

Susie has a tremendous spreadsheet.

That she's always willing to share.

Yeah, really, really fabulous work that she did.

to categorize the artists that have applied samples, et cetera.

And it was very helpful when we worked together on a train station

to use that as a way in to kind of see who would be potential.

So it was really, really, really, really good work.

These also use us as a resource.

We also know what already exists in Mountain View, right?

And which artists we already gave a commission to,

which I think is important.

Not that the same artists can't do it again.

Some artists do vastly different things,

but sometimes it's similar,

or we know what kind of art we have a lot of already.

So we have a resource for those kind of things.

Are there any other questions?

Any other questions?

Anybody in the public that wants to?

like to ask a question or so what you would like us to do is form a talk

committee yeah at least two people and say and we can go up to three in

something else it's it's just voting on yeah appointing members to the ad hoc

ad hoc. Yeah. Okay. I have like one thing I wanted to mention again, using us as a resource.

And because there's a whole year that we have time to come up with the final list,

if you would consider using the VAC kind of in the middle of the process one more time to kind of,

kind of when it's a short list, probably not, not the final, but the short list,

maybe bring it in as i mean we need once a month without like delay things a little bit but usually

we're we can easily accommodate that in the agenda like have like kind of have the seven of us

usually there should be seven of us weigh in one more time kind of say that would be a suggestion

or like something we could possibly do.

So if you look at page four of the staff report,

I think we have sort of the milestones and timeline.

Are you suggesting that the VAC ad hoc subcommittee

to make a final selections of the artists and art work,

that that just go to the full committee?

You know, this is a final artist.

So I wasn't quite clear.

Does that mean the short list or just like multiple artists?

that are selected for the final selection.

So I guess maybe...

But that would be the only...

Those do feel like very similar actions.

Should we consolidate that to just a short list

and then we present the final artwork

and selection to the full VAC?

I guess I'm thinking those two things seem a little...

Yeah, so the current...

The duplication of it.

Yeah, I think the current plan...

And the developer team, if you can correct me if I'm wrong,

I think the ad hoc committee would ultimately meet maybe, I think it's like three, four times

with the developer team talking about the request for qualifications, reviewing artist

proposals and their work examples. And then you'll issue the request for design proposals.

um BAC would again provide the ad hoc committee would provide input yeah the ad hoc committee

and then that um there there will also be the outreach with it sounds like the youth advisory

committee um getting more kind of public feedback uh broader public feedback on that design and then

um that final proposal would come back to full visual arts committee in fourth quarter of next

year yes the intent is really to streamline and be considerate of everyone's time because the

developer team has a sort of short runway to accomplish this um absolutely i mean we could

accommodate the full vac some other check-in point um it may mean maybe doing an uh off-cycle

meeting or if you guys can accommodate and i'll say i wouldn't think more than that but

I mean, it sounds like the train depot process, right?

Yeah, it's really similar to how the VAC handled working with Arts Mountain View and

the train depot.

Because the ad hoc committee worked with her throughout the process of doing the RFQ and

then to make select-commit design.

So we'd be involved through the ad hoc committee all the way.

The art tele-talk committee as we usually do does updates.

Yeah.

And one suggestion I have for the focus groups would be the multicultural group.

I don't know if they're a committee.

It's a city division in the city manager's office.

Yeah, so it would be staff.

That would be staff.

Yeah.

I guess their role is typically to provide translation services and some, I mean, their official role is to provide translation services.

They do help us with outreach, but a lot of that is done, like at least in the housing department, we have certain advocacy groups or outreach that we do.

And when we want to go out and meet with folks or invite them into meetings or part of a public process, our MEP team provides translation services.

So I think if we were to include them, I just want to understand, is it for that purpose?

And then you want us to do outreach to certain groups or organizations and have that as a tool?

I would think by going to the youth group, you'll get a good cross-section.

Okay.

of operations. They're diverse, active, sharp, vocal.

I mean, I'm thinking, you know, it would be interesting to see also sort of the groups that actually will live here to get feedback from.

I mean, there's a way to talk about the housing group, right?

Yes, there's a lot.

Cafecito, there's Yimbi, there's a lot.

So I think when we're ready to do the outreach,

we'll reach out to all of our stakeholders

who I think this project is important to.

There's definitely housing advocates,

there's community-based organizations

and other folks that we can,

including the youth group, reach out to.

Okay.

That's good.

Yeah.

All right.

So group, ad hoc committee.

I'd be interested.

I would be too since our other one has finished and we had some learnings.

Yeah, we did.

But if other people want to.

I'll be glad to do it too.

I kind of feel myself a little stretched.

Yeah, you have.

I'll do it.

I would love to, but I don't know.

I can, on the other ad hoc community already.

Oh, okay.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

That's the most active one.

Yeah, yeah.

So, I think one ad hoc is sufficient for me.

So, then maybe the other question, two or three,

what do we think?

Or are all three of us interested?

Why don't you do three, and then if one person can't make it,

then there's two.

I kind of like the three just because of that, because then one person can miss.

We all know we're still two people.

I mean, keep the other person.

Yeah.

And I assume we need to decide this tonight so that people who aren't here are...

Well, they don't show up.

They don't show up.

Definitely, that's who is in the ad hoc committee with Regina.

And then Lacey and Tutu are often missing.

So I'm assuming they will be fine with this just because they may not be able to provide the consistency.

Sounds like we've...

I'm just making sure.

We're good?

Okay.

So can somebody make a motion?

I can make a motion, because I'm not on it, to have Joe and Susie on the ad hoc committee to work with the Alter Housing Project, the Corsal Argus.

That's the group, right?

That we would work in.

Argus.

You'll see all of us.

I'll second the motion.

All in favor?

Yes.

Sure.

Where is Argus based?

In the Bay Area?

Everyville.

Everyville, ah, okay.

They've been doing this work for at least 25 years.

Oh, okay.

Can I ask a really quick question about the multipurpose rooms?

There was a little bit, I understand, they're no longer public, right?

That was decided in the city council.

But it said in the notes,

sometimes can be rented out to non-perfect groups or community groups is that is that

just to know kind of like you know if something semi-public that we kind of know that and so I

just wanted to so long as our housing residents are can be invited you're welcome to use it okay

so it would go through the residents it will go through property management but um our only request

is that our residents are able to participate.

So it can't be closed.

Oh, I see.

Interesting.

Yeah, that's good to know.

When, as this evolves,

and we want to get input on the art pieces from residents,

will you know who will be,

will you be able to assemble a team to give feedback as we go along?

No, because we won't.

You won't know who's coming in.

Well, one of the ways we could get input is we could solicit feedback from our current residents that live here now of our other autohousal communities.

That would be one way to get it.

It's the same demographic.

Yeah, similar demographic. In fact, Luna Vista also has adults with developmental disabilities living.

Because on the train station, we found it helpful to go out to other folks versus our small little group, which we were kind of constrained in our vision.

And it really helped getting feedback from other community members who spotted things that we just didn't see.

So the result was really, really good.

The housing department has lists, various lists, but we have folks that are current renters, residents that want to be in affordable housing or interested in leasing a property or BMR lists.

So we have, I think, a pretty comprehensive list of folks in Mountain View who are currently renting or looking for affordable housing, too, that we can, when it comes time for the public process, we can do outreach there too.

Thank you so much.

That was great.

All right.

Thank you.

Exciting.

Very exciting.

Thank you for having us.

Thank you.

Thanks, guys.

It's great that you incorporate art into your projects.

Yeah.

I think you're going to squeeze that.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Before we finish our work.

Before it's required.

Yeah.

Are you inviting me?

Oh, we should. Yeah, go ahead.

Oh, and we'll be inviting you to the groundbreaking.

So stay tuned. Okay.

The early 2026.

Excited to have you out there.

Sounds good. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Take care.

See you.

All right.

Then let's quickly go back to the United States.

Business, based on what they've got some update on our COPs.

Yes. So I don't really have any major updates from the last meeting, but just we'll give a reminder on the few that we have outstanding or ongoing.

So Evelyn Park, this is the butterfly reflect design by looking up ours. So design work still in progress and they're working towards installation in April of 2026.

And I know they already had the ribbon cutting for that.

So once we were working towards the April 2026 installation, once we have a better idea of when their piece will be able to be fabricated and finished, then we'll work on doing a ribbon cutting for the art piece.

And for Villa Chiquita Park, so they broke ground.

And the artist also is working on the design, expecting installation in May of 2026.

For Ringstorf Park, the maintenance buildings, the maintenance and tennis buildings with the bathrooms.

So as we know, the Senate Bill 456 passed.

That's effective January 1st.

So our public works, the project managers on the project, they're working with Fernanda Martinez and Harumo Seto on getting the insurance stuff prepped and ready for January contract signing to get things done next year.

So we don't know the timing yet and kind of their schedule on when they'll be able to do the install, but we're moving forward.

and then Shoreline Park I think I mentioned this at the last meeting so the the artist is dealing

with the just a personal emergency and so we're giving them time to kind of work out things that

they need to work out and and so we we don't have a installation timeline or design timeline for the

art yet. I do know the project was a little bit delayed anyways, and so the timeline is working

out okay. If there are any changes in kind of the artist's availability for the project, we'll

have to kind of figure out how to come back and look at that, at the different art proposals that

we got or how we're going to handle that. But for now, we're just giving them some time to

kind of work out what they need to um and it was a bench also right yeah but that's no longer

that's no longer in it no so yeah just a reminder on the bench the there were so many timeline

considerations that did not fall into place and um so that was going to be a mural that would be

done on the bench. The artist doesn't have a personal studio or anything that she would have

been able to hold on to the bench. The city wasn't prepared to hold on to it. We didn't know what the

timeline was going to be for the muralist exemptions for Senate Bill 456 at the time.

And the bench company, that was the last bench that they were producing of that style.

And so they needed to get rid of it sooner than later.

And yeah, so it didn't ultimately end up working out.

So we'll still have, there is still that bucket of money.

I think we were going to give for $4,000, but there is still that bucket of money from

I think it's Fire Station 5 in Shoreline Park that can be used somewhere in Shoreline Park.

Staff capacity, I don't think we can handle a project for our installation right now,

but I think it'll still be something we can look at in the future.

Once there's a staff person.

Yeah.

Once we have the capacity.

That's a meaningful project to take on.

Yeah. Yeah. So those are all of the CIP project updates. Any questions, other questions?

I have about the bollards.

So the bollards. So we are going to be moving forward with those. We're working. So I've notified

all the artists. Five of the six are going to participate. The sixth location was honestly

a little bit awkward anyways it was going to be at the um at the end of cash or near evelyn or at

the end of cash or on evelyn um the two bollards were placed i can't remember exactly where it is

but they're really it's not the same placement as the other five sort of like by the hot pot

hot pot place at the very end of the hundred block yeah so it just wasn't in a place that would be as

trapped like there's not as much foot traffic as it as the other bollards yeah yeah um so i think

at this point we're just going to move forward with the five um i know there there may be some

plans to do some fun bollard um activations for the big sporting events next year too the other

bollards that aren't being painted by artists um so i think there's going to be um more activity

kind of more place making and things that are happening next year with um with some of the

bollards that are just painted white right now but we'll move forward with the five um

kind of working through just the administration of all that and installation will be dependent on

weather and availability again but I think we're going to give them kind of time to decide their

their installation we'll let everyone know when each artist is going to go out and paint so it

can be kind of a big promotion people can go and watch them and yeah do you know if any designs

change something um that's a good question I don't lost I wouldn't be so thought somebody

changed their design but maybe it might be good to just check it back and if they changed it maybe

split that to us just let me know yeah um I do remember I think it was Ann Sophie

um or debt who had she proposed a design um that i think the vac was comfortable with but wanted

some changes and she um so she changed it up and um we should have shown you that after she changed

it but um i mean it might be just good to check yeah yeah okay i mean it's good to show it again

Yeah. Because I can't remember. It's been quite a while. It's been quite a while.

Sounds familiar to me, that information. Yeah. I don't remember seeing it.

It would have been before you. You should not remember seeing it actually. That was before you.

All right. And still no public members. Yeah, nobody in the public. So then number eight,

committee staff comments questions reports so i have a little announcement i'm showing two paintings

now inside the system oh congratulations thank you and so as much as we love you cliff to have

you on the committee we you need to step back again we can pick you to so so we get the show

through through the end of January. Beautiful. I'll give you. Thank you.

And it's very good to go out and show. Thank you. As you may know. Yes, it is.

Very cool. Congrats. Yeah. It's exciting. Yeah. You should do a field.

West Portal is kind of an interesting little area.

Yeah, it is.

It's where it is, it's near the Salt Lake Temple near Stern Grove.

Oh, okay.

And it's a little neighborhood that's kind of with long-term residence in there.

there's a hardware store, just nice coffee shops, and there's a lot of public art.

It's a nice little community there.

I think that's the nice thing that San Francisco has, like those little comments.

It's very distinct. Also, coming from here, it's really nice to go into a neighborhood

did not see a software engineer walking around.

Not there.

That was my culture shock when I was here.

And also it's very near the un-for-da-ble neighborhoods

of San Francisco.

So if you want to see where Losi lives,

those folks,

they're just up there.

Very nearby. So we can spend that money here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nice.

Sure.

I'll give the update on public art strategy. So the online survey is closing this weekend. So

share it out again with all of your friends, family, people to fill it out before it ends

this weekend. I don't have any other really major updates right now. We had a great turnout

at community tree lighting. The event turnout was wonderful. And we just, again, had consistent

and participation at our booths with the Inflatable Art Project and people putting the stickers on the vision boards and mapping out where they want to see art.

I think we got another 30 surveys at this event, which was great. We were worried about our location and it turned out okay.

So, yeah, that was really good. So I think we're at least at 370 surveys now. I know that.

And that was, and I know we'll get more this weekend. So great, lovely feedback.

And then we have a number of internal staff meetings scheduled this month before the holiday and city hall closure.

So we'll do a lot of the internal stakeholder groups.

And then we'll do the artists, developer focus groups and hopefully schools who can get their schedules in the new year.

Yeah, that's good. And then we'll get an update in February.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the next, yeah, the next meeting is in February. So I'll send out the

cancellation for January soon. Yeah. And I think, did you want to give a quick update on the,

or just a reminder on the, the exhibit? Oh, on February 17th, we have, it's a Tuesday,

the reception for

Don Hirschman

old

switching in the

CPA

yeah

do we have a

meeting

I think it's just before

well I think we are talking about the

ad hoc meeting I think not until

January right we pushed it out to January

yeah we talked about

December

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a post-holiday better time.

Yeah.

I know.

The rest of this month.

Oh, and there's going to be a new artist installing at the Center for Performing Arts next week.

So one of the artists ended up backing out.

And so we were able to get Robin Bernstein.

She was one of the alternate artists.

She's going to install her artwork next Tuesday.

so it'll be available during the open hours

Wednesday to Saturday, 12 to 3, and an hour before events.

Which artists stepped up?

Dana, Mano, Flank.

Just to know.

When will you go out with the call for artists for the next round?

Oh, yeah, that'll be published next week.

next week. Yeah, so I think I have it set to publish

on Monday, so I'll send out a notice actually once that goes out.

Okay, so I'd like to be able to share with my art group.

And it's just the same one as always.

Yeah.

Extensively discussed that.

So next week

you'll be sending it out.

Yeah, it's scheduled on the call for entry website.

it's scheduled to get published. I think it is Monday, December 15th. So once Monday morning,

I'll send out an email and a link. So you guys can even just, I'll send you something you can

just forward out. Yeah. Great. Sounds good. All right. Okay. Atturning the meeting at 7.30.

Are you coming back here?

No, I have my mom and my son's busy day.

I will be there.

Yeah, we'll be there.