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I call this meeting to order.
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Welcome everyone to the February 5th Human Relations Committee.
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Please be advised that there is agendas in the front of the room.
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For your convenience, I will now ask the principal management analyst to take attendance by roll call.
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Committee member Lester.
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Your committee member McDonald.
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committee member mcdonald
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sorry no worries committee member smith here committee member webb present vice chair chadwell
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here i can barely hear you in this room
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thank you now move on to item three minutes approval the minutes for the december 4th
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20, 25th. Regular meeting
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has been delivered to the committee members
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and posted on the City Hall Bulletin
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Board. If there are no corrections or
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additions, a motion is in order
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to approve these minutes.
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a second? I'll second.
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Perfect. All those in favor, say
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from the public. This portion of the meeting is
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reserved for persons wishing to address the committee on any matter not on the agenda.
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Each speaker has up to three minutes to make their comments. State law prohibits the committee from
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acting on non-agenda items. For those attending the meeting via Zoom, please use the raise your
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hand function or press star 9 on your phone to make a comment on any item not on the agenda.
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The committee will receive in-person comments first. Seeing none and none online. Perfect.
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We'll move on to item five, unfinished business.
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The civic participation ad hoc committee will present an oral update.
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No action will be taken on this item.
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So thank you, Chair.
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The ad hoc committee last met on January 16th, where we were able to kind of reflect on some
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of the data from specifically the survey that we distributed.
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And we discussed how, even though we made adjustments to the original format of the project by including a survey, we were still not seeing as many answers in different languages as we would like and kind of wondered if, you know, this, if we're hearing from the same people or how many new voices we were able to successfully capture.
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and so I think from there we agreed to do some direct outreach to certain groups and people
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specifically of different first languages other than English and we will be checking back in
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tomorrow and from there hopefully have a more complete representative data set of voices that
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we don't typically hear from in Mountain View that can inform our conclusions and recommendations.
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Thank you, committee member Lester. Any questions from the committee?
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Okay, seeing none, open the floor for public comment if there's any attendees.
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Seeing none present and not online, we'll move on to the Know Your Rights Ad Hoc Committee.
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We'll present an oral update. No action will be taken on this item. So we met yesterday.
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to discuss some updates.
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We are scheduling meeting dates with community partners
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to see what the flow would be
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and what would be better for the public,
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whether it be online or in-person event.
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We have seen some movement along this journey.
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We have a former chair of the HRC,
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now member of the Senior Advisory Committee,
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Nirvana Wukiru will be joining us on this endeavor.
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And I'll take any questions from the committee members if they have any at this time.
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Okay, seeing none and seeing that there's no person for public comment and online, we will move on.
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We'll move on to item six, sustainability programs community outreach.
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The committee will now receive a virtual presentation on this item from Sustainability Division staff.
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Whitney Ramos, Sustainability Division Analyst, and Daniel Lee, Chief Sustainability and Resilience Officer, will be presenting and are available for questions.
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No action will be taken on this item.
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Good evening. I just wanted to double check that you all can hear me.
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Wonderful. Thank you for having us this evening.
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My name is Danielle Lee and I'm the city's chief sustainability and resiliency officer.
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I'm joined by Whitney Ramos, who is one of our sustainability analysts in our division.
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and Ms. Ramos and I are really pleased to be here this evening to talk about outreach
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that we are conducting within the Sustainability and Resiliency Division.
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If we could go to the next slide.
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Just a quick introduction to our team.
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This is most of us, actually.
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The Sustainability and Resiliency Division has three analysts,
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One focused on electrification, one focused on community engagement, and one who I would say is mostly focused on policy and program implementation.
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And then we also currently have three Climate Corps fellows and additional staff that have been helping with a cool block program that Ms. Ramos will be telling you a little bit more about.
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And our goal is to really help transform city operations as well as our whole community and to reduce emissions from greenhouse gases to reduce our impact on climate change and also to consider the impacts of climate change in the city.
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What can we do as a community to be resilient?
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If you could go to the next slide.
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Okay, I'm going to hand it over to Ms. Ramos, our engagement analyst, and she's going to
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tell you about some of the work that we've been conducting in the community.
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It's nice to see you all.
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Sustainability and resiliency division conducts a variety of outreach and engagement.
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Give us a second, Whitney.
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Your audio is coming out choppy.
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Yeah, that's not something I can control.
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she may have to log in yeah log out and log back in
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yeah i was gonna say maybe if you turn off your video i'm gonna be bandwidth the audio any better
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this way only marginally okay is there a way to dial in by phone do you know yes yes
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I'll teams you, Whitney?
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What Ms. Ramos was going to do is sort of walk you through what we had talked about sharing with you this evening.
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We thought we'd start by sharing the results of a program that is about to be completed,
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the Cool Block Mountain View program. And that's really an initiative to engage at the neighborhood
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scale, you know, and have residents get to know their neighbors and talk about issues around
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sustainability. Then we were going to talk about a program that is underway, the year of the water
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heater, where we've been working with residents again to install all electric appliances, in this
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case for water heating instead of a natural gas water heater. And so she's going to tell you about
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some of the engagement that we conducted to really promote this program community-wide.
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And then the third program that we're going to talk about with you this evening is our
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multifamily electric vehicle charging program. It was just approved by the council a few weeks ago,
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and we're going to be launching it soon.
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So we're really excited.
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This is trying to bring electric vehicle charging
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to renters in our community
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because it can be more challenging
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for people who live in multifamily properties
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to access charging if they have an electric vehicle.
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So we're trying to address the needs
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of the full community.
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So we wanted to talk about a program that's complete
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and kind of what we learned.
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a program that's underway and then a program that is forthcoming.
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So this we're almost, have you been able to reconnect to the audio?
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Let's, shall we test and see?
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I just sent her the info, all the numbers.
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Got it. It'll probably take her a minute.
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Number, webinar number, sign in.
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Yeah. Meeting number.
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Great. It's a process.
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We have her on video.
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We just saw her video.
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We're patient. It's okay.
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How about this? We'll take a five-minute
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recess while we get the
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audio situation situated.
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therapy? Yeah. Cool. All right.
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We'll go on a five-minute recess.
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Did you want to just say one or two more things so we can make sure that the audio is coming through clearly?
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So to those of you in the room, are you able to hear me?
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I can hear you fine through the Zoom, so I'm hoping that they can in the conference room as well.
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Okay, wonderful. Thank you.
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All right. I call this meeting back to order.
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We'll throw it back to the sustainability group.
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Ms. Wee, for that introduction. We will move to the next slide.
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So, the past program
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that I'll be discussing. It's Cool Block Mountain View. It is a team-based program for residents
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to learn with neighbors about household decarbonization, that is switching from
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electric to gas, removing the carbon from our systems, and incentives to help with that,
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as well as completing cost and energy saving practices, and getting to know each other,
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which helps build resilience and community.
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The program operated from 2020 to 2025
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and was funded with match grant funding
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from the County of Santa Clara.
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Across three cohorts,
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the city served many completed blocks and households.
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Many others started the program
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and are not counted here because they did not quite complete it.
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But other outcomes in addition to these households and blocks building community getting to know each other
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is the development of the 2025 Cool Block Mountain View Handbook,
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which provides tailored information to Mountain View residents with local information
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and was developed using feedback from earlier cohorts.
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That handbook is available for Mountain View homeowners and renters online now.
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Using feedback from past cohorts, we created a renter-specific program, and we also are in the process of finalizing a Spanish-language version of that.
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In 2025, the program website received over 1,600 visitors.
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And one of the quotes from the current participants from Cohort 3 is, I'm happy to report my neighbor who participated will be going 100% electric soon.
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We've had positive feedback from community members through the years.
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Our ongoing campaign is Year of the Water Heater.
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All the information is on mountainview.gov slash water heater and will continue to be.
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Its main feature is a limited time Mountain View electric water heater rebate.
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It also includes outreach and engagement pieces such as photographed here or pictured here, Watson, the heat pump water heater, completing events and outreach focused on the topic,
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and to promote community engagement and learn more about the current stock of water heaters in the city,
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we are conducting a survey called the Water Heater Dating Game,
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where we want to know how old water heaters are in Mountain View,
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and that will launch on February 14th, Valentine's Day, to be on theme.
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So this chart compares our outreach for the program to the rebate reservations, and it shows the nine in-person outreach events that were attended, three print mailers, four newsletters across print and email, and then four social media ads.
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and you can see the increase in consistent reservations over time from when the program launched
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to when it was fully reserved.
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Our upcoming program is multifamily electric vehicle charging.
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We are looking at an Earth Day, sorry for that typo, 2026, a launch at Earth Day this year.
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it is able to be stacked with other available incentives and other programs that will also
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be happening include technical assistance from Silicon Valley Clean Energy, for example.
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And this is intended to reduce the cost of installing electric vehicle chargers at multifamily
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properties in Mountain View to near zero.
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else. We are exploring outreach pathways both through the property owners managers, who of
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course are the decision makers. They are also a time-constrained population, which is something
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to consider, as well as through the residents living in the rental units, which would help
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support electric vehicle adoption, and we would hope to empower residents while not creating any
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sort of friction between the two groups, and increase general knowledge of EVs. Some renters
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move quite a bit, so by increasing awareness in general, perhaps there's a medium-term
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adoption as well. But we would really love to hear from you all today about how could we
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potentially outreach meaningfully to reach property owners, what kinds of messages we
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could potentially emphasize to the renters, and what could a tenant's role be in bringing
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electric vehicle charging to a multifamily property. I'm also here to note down other
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comments or questions or notes that you have as well. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for the presentation. I open the floor for public comment. Seeing none
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in person and not in line, I'll now move it to committee member questions. Does any member
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the committee have any questions for staff?
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Joe? Vice Chair Chadwell? Yeah, thank you very much for that presentation.
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This is a topic that is very important and I'm particularly interested in. I have a question about the cool block program and then I also have a question about the multifamily electric vehicle.
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do a Cool Block first. Just was this... I may be wrong, but this is an older program, right? This
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has been active in the past, right? I mean, this is from... It's finished in 2025. But it wasn't it...
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Did they do a Cool Block before 2020? Or am I just completely misremembering? Okay. All right.
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Sorry. I thought I remembered there being like a program, Cool Block program, that was like
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like in the 2010s or something.
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Chair, I believe that there is regionally,
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there is a, the Cool Boss program has been active
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for much longer, but it first came to Mountain View in 2020.
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Okay, that makes sense.
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I remember it being like a thing that
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there was a small bit of involvement in,
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but it never quite got off the ground in Mountain View.
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Well, I'm glad to hear that that was successful.
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Regarding the Cool Block program, I'm wondering, were the households very concentrated in one or two neighborhoods?
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I'm just wondering, did you have representation from across the city in your households, or did you find that it was kind of concentrated in just a small geographic area in terms of participation?
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Yes, that's a great question.
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And we did find that the majority of households were from the near the downtown Mountain View area.
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So the historic Mountain View area there.
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We made a concerted effort.
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So Ms. Ramos and I, the first cohort actually occurred before both of us came to join the city.
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We made a concerted effort.
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That's why there was actually a gap between years for cohorts.
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Of course, COVID also slowed the pace of participation, but we attempted to have a Spanish language cohort.
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We attempted to have a more targeted cohort for the renters.
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Am I correct, Ms. Ramos?
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So we tried to, we looked at the data of who was participating and we tried to tailor the program to meet other parts of the community that hadn't participated.
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Last year was a hard year to run programs for Spanish speaking residents in our community and renters because there was just a lot of additional, you know, other things happening in the community.
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So we weren't able to get very high levels of participation.
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You know, I think, frankly, it's limiting what you can do if you're a renter, right?
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If you're a homeowner, you can make more changes to your home than you can if you're a renter.
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So a lot of factors that we're still trying to unpack in terms of why the participation ranged the way that it did.
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but we did do a redesign to try to broaden participation
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oh thank you thank you vice chair property managers for residential included in
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the property owners and managers because um i've been wondering about who who decided
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in the Mauna Loma area around the corner from me
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to put in a charging station, several charging stations,
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in the commercial shopping center.
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It's a small shopping center, but it's really very handy
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for people who have that need.
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are there incentives
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to have that happen
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or a particular concern
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of the property owner
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of the commercial place
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if it's on a commercial
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property then that would have
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been by the initiative of the property owner. The city did not have incentives available to
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businesses, but the Inflation Reduction Act and California's Clean Cars Rule, which are both now
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initiatives that have been dismantled by the federal administration.
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But at the time, in the last, I would say, three or four years, there had been a significant push to increase electric vehicle charging and grow the market for electric vehicles.
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So there were incentives for both new and secondhand electric vehicles. And then there was a law on the books for the state that was going to ban the future sale of non-electric vehicles, but not until 2035.
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So there was a big ramp up to just have more infrastructure, have the market grow, help more people to actually buy electric vehicles.
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So I don't know if that particular property owner took advantage of one of the many programs that were sort of proliferating in the past three to five years.
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But the city could not take credit for that particular.
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I mean, we had ride and drive events every Earth Day for the last few years where we got people the chance to just test drive an electric vehicle to see what it's like.
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So that was the role that we were playing at the city level, just to familiarize people with electric cars.
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Committee Member Webb.
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Can I piggyback off of that one?
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I actually participated in one of the ride and drives at the Senior Center a couple years back.
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and the one thing that i did get out of that was of course i got to test drive them but there was
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no other information about like the infrastructure all of the other benefits that we could get out of
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this like it was almost like the sales the person just rode in the car with me said if you want to
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buy a ride with me if you want to buy here's my contact information so it didn't entice me to say
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oh, well, you know, we're building infrastructure.
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I mean, none of the other things that, or there was a table outside.
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Now, this may have changed over the last couple of years
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where there's a tables with all that information
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and someone, more than one person at the table talking to people
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because people here in our city, they're definitely interested.
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The awareness has always been the challenge.
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so I'm glad you guys are asking these types of questions I live in South Mountain View we get
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nothing we get nothing at all as far as like information I'm in a mid-sized apartment complex
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with about 150 units and the things that come down to us we don't get the information
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so when you say you're concentrating in downtown there are a lot of us on the outsides of the
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outskirts of the city and we want to make these, make these changes,
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but we don't get the information. So maybe,
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I don't know what practices you have right now. And I'm not sure, you know,
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what we can do to help you with that. But just from my perspective,
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we're just not getting this information, hearing about the water heaters,
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hearing about the block party that doesn't trickle down to our side.
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And there's two large apartment buildings right by us,
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along with a big residential cul-de-sac and the americanas is around the corner from us and that's
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a humongous complex where we can make a difference a black party could be held there
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if you know there's there's there are people there's large pockets of people out there
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in our neighborhoods where we can reach out to or you can reach out to yeah i'm i'm so glad that
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we're here this evening, the multifamily charging program hasn't yet gone live. And so this is
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really the perfect time. You know, we would love to reach out to some of the properties that you
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just mentioned first. We haven't yet issued any rebates or even made them available yet. So
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if we could we'd love to get your own property in line right away so maybe you can reach out to me
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you can give her information for more yeah because right now there's we have several
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people that live in our complex that own electric vehicles there's a couple outlets outside of our
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like in the common areas where they're using those to charge.
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I've actually spoken to our property manager about getting those in.
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There's space for it.
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So we definitely should at least consider it.
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If it's incentivized, I'm pretty sure our owners will at least consider it.
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Yeah, we've stacked this program with other rebates.
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And so it is designed to be really accessible, that it's not meant to be costly for the property owners.
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Many should be able to install the charging basically free of charge or nearly free of charge.
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And there are other rebates even to help with upgrades to the electric capacity at your site.
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So we're really trying to make it doable.
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So I'll certainly, someone from our team will reach out.
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Thank you. Thank you, committee member Webb. Committee member Smith.
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Stippling on your thing of bigger complexes, I remember Zipcar was such a benefit for large complexes like that.
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Is there any electric company doing something like Zipcar in that regard?
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because that would just that would help i feel like get people into that idea of an electric car
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a lot easier and then help that transition going better or can i can i jump in the other thing is
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what are we doing with all these rideshare like was it nuru and the ones that are going around
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these electric vehicles what relationship have you had with them as far as getting them because
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I know we can take like the Waymos and stuff now, you know, if the city has some kind of
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program where, you know, they can get us discounted rates, you know, subsidized and that would
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incentivize people to maybe take the electric vehicles or the driverless vehicles around.
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That can definitely help too.
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Because I see people in my complex always just popping out for a lift, you know, and
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if we have something to incentivize us, even if it's just only within the city limits, you know,
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going from, you know, from where I am to downtown, it's a 10-minute ride, and it costs me five bucks
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because it's been subsidized by the city, and I'm getting a chance to ride in the new technology or
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ride in an electric vehicle. We've got lots of ideas. We love this program. Yeah. We love
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sustainability. So it's so exciting to hear it. I mean, we can definitely hear your enthusiasm.
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You know, the way we've been thinking about electric vehicles is there's a part of the
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market that will happen naturally. And especially with so many incentives that were available,
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you know, there was, there were a chunk of the community that could acquire an electric vehicle
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without assistance. And then, you know, these rideshare programs, they could manage installing
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and securing access to charging for their fleets. And what we've tried to do is think about who's
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not being brought along in the programs that are, or not even programs, but in the way that
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our community is transforming, who's not being brought along, who's not getting enough support
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to start to make these changes, which is why this program, you know, so folks who live in
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multifamily, if they can't access charging reliably, it's a lot scarier to buy an electric
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vehicle. You know, if you don't know that you can charge it, you've got to get your kids to school
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the next day, right? Like that's just adding another layer of logistics into life. And so
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we were seeing that there was a lower conversion rate for electric vehicles with people, you know,
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members of the community who live in apartments and for good reason, because there isn't enough
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charging infrastructure. So we've tried to tailor our programs to kind of support the part of the
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market that wouldn't happen naturally. Now with all of the incentives changing and going away,
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that segment might be growing over the coming years
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as federal incentives have dried up.
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We have to kind of rethink that moving forward.
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But for now, we're starting with this multifamily program
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because of this identified gap
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where not everyone could make that change.
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So I think we would love to think about additional opportunities for partnership as this program launches and hopefully is successful.
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Thank you. Vice Chair Chathwa?
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Yeah, thank you for additional detail on this. Just a details question for multifamily or who qualifies for the program as multifamily defined as five or more units or are we talking four plexus as well.
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I don't know the answer to that question, Miss Ramos, do you recall?
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I know that the five or more units is kind of a magic number for at least for trash services
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which is what I used to work with um apologies I also do not recall the cutoff minimum because
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I don't know that well the
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four, but I know that there is a
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lot of small multifamily complexes
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in Mountain View that are, you know, five to ten
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units, but there's also a lot of fourplexes
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or threeplexes that kind of fly under the radar
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of outreach because they're not, why, I mean, they're a single family
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at least in terms of having like individual services but um they behave in a lot of ways
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like multi-family properties and so i would just be interested in seeing how you might tailor an
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approach to those because smaller properties where it's often like the owner lives in one of the
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properties and rents out the other ones there it's a lot more uh there's a lot more control there
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um and accessibility um easier to reach the property manager right there
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I just messaged my colleagues who are implementing this program.
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And if they answer me, it's after hours.
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So whether or not they get the message, but I'll certainly share.
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And if not, we can follow up with that answer.
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Thank you. I appreciate it.
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Any other committee members with questions?
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I got like 10 more.
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So I have a few questions. Thank you so much again for being here this evening. One of the first ones was with the Cold Block Mountain View. Y'all had mentioned that y'all received the grant from the county to match kind of the amount. Was that a one-time deal? Are we expected to see continual funding for that or with the county budget cuts? Is that not dried up?
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It was a one-time grant from Supervisor Simitian's office.
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Got it. Okay, thank you for that. And then with the outreach, are there any plans for the outreach to hit other neighborhood areas or even possibly use neighborhood associations as a way to tap into folks to obtain this information?
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or what other outreach opportunities are y'all trying to seek in order to expand access to this?
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We are hoping to use every Pathways communications method available to us.
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So that certainly will include if there are any council neighborhood committee meetings, those were an effective way to reach people for the heat pump water heater rebates, as well as connecting to the people we know who run neighborhood associations and asking them to forward the information.
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But if there's other specific ways, I can drop them down as well.
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Definitely. Thank you for that.
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And then would mobile homes be able to access
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or would that fall under a different criteria
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because of who manages the property and the facilities?
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That's a really good question. I don't know if we have specifically included or excluded mobile home communities. I think one of the biggest challenges is sufficient electric capacity at some of those sites.
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You know, we've had kind of parallel conversations when it comes to installing electric appliances as well. And because they're space constrained, doing, you know, electric capacity improvements can be a challenge.
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I don't know, Ms. Ramos, do you have anything to add to that? We're certainly trying to think about how to engage residents in mobile home communities too.
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It's certainly a unique challenge because we have heard from a lot of residents of mobile home communities that they're interested in making sustainable changes, but there are unique circumstances in those places.
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The details of this program aren't fully finalized yet, but that is another note that we will
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add to just confirm the correct answer and send over.
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Thank you for that.
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And then I'll pause for committee member McDonald.
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has been said about the cost of this. And I have no idea how costly it is to set up a charging
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station. And I think it's not fair to talk about these discussion questions without knowing
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just exactly what might be the cause.
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They're trying to give it to them for free.
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They're trying to give it to them for free.
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Don't know if she can hear them.
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Oh, yeah, thank you for the question.
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We tried to stack this program with other rebates
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that are available so that the chargers
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could be virtually free of charge
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or in many cases, actually free of charge.
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It depends on the electric capacity of the site.
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That's kind of the thing that could be
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a little bit of extra cost.
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But generally speaking,
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the rebates will cover up to 100% of the project cost
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when you combine all of the available rebates.
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Can I answer your question?
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Committee member what? Do you have a question?
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The question is, so we have, so you're saying it's practically free, right?
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And you're trying to stack.
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The challenge I think with this is how are you going to guide these property managers through this process and make it as painless as possible?
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Because we don't because the one thing and I can say as far as like property managers or the on site people that run the apartment complexes, they don't want any additional burdens and they are the champions to going to the owners of the property.
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so it as you're thinking through this you want to make sure that you can say it's practically free
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we can help you walk through the process so it'll be no issues we have a dedicated staff member that
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helps you anything that you guys can do to do that i think it will help make this program successful
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and are like as an apartment complex ambassador you know that's what we want to look for
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um in each complex and and whatever program you can get out into the public eye to say
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we're looking for apartment complex ambassadors to help us get our goals in your apartment complex
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for sustainability, that person can be helped go talk to that property manager and say,
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hey, they're going to guide you.
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There's no problems.
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It's easy, easy peasy, whatever the case may be to get it to the next level.
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Because there's always going to be stops along the way until it gets that final person.
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And that decision maker is it's always bottom line.
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So they need to see the number.
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So before it even gets to them, they need to see the number from that property manager or that ambassador.
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I was just going to add, I'm sorry.
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So the goal of the program is to have the chargers be installed free.
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But of course, charging your electric vehicle would still be a cost.
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There's an electricity charge.
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And then in terms of the other comment that you made about walking property owners through it, you know, we really gave that some thought.
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Included in our program design is the intention to basically bring on board like a concierge type service.
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So we're hoping to be able to pay a property manager to be kind of like a consultant to their fellow property managers and help walk them through that process.
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Because, yeah, we recognize that they understand kind of their own constraints and also how to talk to each other.
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And just they know what it's like to have to jump through extra hurdles when they've already got, you know, a thousand things to take care of every day.
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So the goal is to have a concierge specifically for the property managers.
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So it would be free of charge to install the chargers and we'll have somebody there by your side to kind of walk you through that whole process.
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So you don't have to kind of puzzle over forms and paperwork.
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I heard you say something about a property manager to help other property managers.
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and I have a person in mind that I think will be totally willing to do this.
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So definitely reach out to me.
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Wonderful. Thank you.
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Yeah. So regarding the credits, incentives, I forget the term,
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um you how many like i realize that the exact costs are going to be different for each each
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call it account to each you know property or whatever um but how many are you estimating
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you have your program will have the capacity for like i know that the um the water heater program
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all of the credits have been reserved which congrats that's awesome is this going to be a
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similar program where assuming that the outreach is successful which we hope that it is you will
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get a list of interested properties. In fact, it would not surprise me if you got a property
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management company that says, hey, we have six properties in Mountain View and we'd like to do
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all of them. Can you help us do all of them at once? Which, you know, very efficient, but also
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is that, you know, the best distribution of the credits? Basically, my question is how many
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properties do you estimate you will be able to do assuming that, you know, you have lots of interest?
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Just briefly, I did hear back from my colleague that four plexes would be included.
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They meet the criteria from Silicon Valley Clean Energy, who is our partner in implementing the program.
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And in terms of your other question about how many properties we can serve, we thought about it more in terms of the number of properties.
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charging stations or we call them ports um how many plugs we will be able to install because
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you know a property with a hundred apartments or one with four the the cost would be very different
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so um i think that there was an estimate for the number of ports and we don't know how many
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properties that will spread across um i'm i'm might i can see her typing the answer to the
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number of ports i can't remember i think it's 100 something ports um but uh the other thing i was
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going to just mention in the meantime was that we um also last month got permission from the council
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to add an additional
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launch of money to the heat pump water heater program.
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So we've doubled the capacity of the program.
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So yes, the first batch of money was fully reserved.
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But now that we've gotten additional funds added,
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rebates are again available.
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Are those for single family homes?
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yeah there's still time and then we're we're going to be limiting um the number of ports per
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per property for the ev charging it'll be either 18 ports um if they're level two yeah exactly so
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we don't we don't want to put all of the ports into one property so you know we're trying to
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keep it reasonable and spread the benefit out to, you know, at least kind of across the city.
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And our hope is that this is successful and that, you know, we're just piloting or proving a concept
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that then we would be able to expand. Much like the heat pump water heater program, you know,
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we projected it would be available for a year and the incentives were gone after six months. And so
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we were really excited to come back to council and ask for permission to add more money to the
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program because it was so successful so um you know we don't know what will happen i think
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trying to engage with multifamily like i think it's it's not just like a regular um linear
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uptake i think it'll be a lot lurchier than that like we'll have a lot of interest and then maybe
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none or maybe the opposite
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no interest and then like a spike of it
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so we don't know how long
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the funds will last
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thank you any more questions from the committee members
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I have a different question
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so I'm going a little off topic
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I'm just wondering because I didn't see I see that you have a deck on these different areas
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but I was also wondering about what your scope three plan is for the city and is that if we
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could find that anywhere for scope three emissions or do you not um we have been more focused on
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kind of direct emissions within the community as a starting point, you know, recognizing that we
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still have a lot of work to do there. So we don't have a specific sort of strategy for scope three
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emissions. I will say that we're also really active at the regional and statewide level,
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because, you know, if you think about it, like the, there are emissions that are occurring locally,
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And then there are emissions sort of across the economy that pass through Mountain View or could be attributed to Mountain View, but really are not controlled within our city limits, strictly speaking.
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So we are active at the countywide level. We partner with Silicon Valley Clean Energy and with the county. The county has recently launched a countywide climate collaborative to work with all the cities in the county and with community organizations.
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um mountain view sits on the leadership advisory team for that body and then also
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we co-chair the sea level rise and flooding uh working group so thinking about issues of flooding
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and sea level rise um county-wide and then um we're getting ready to launch a statewide
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climate alliance um of cities that will be active with the legislature and we'll be trying to bring
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forward ideas for laws that we hope our legislative delegations will carry that will help address
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electricity affordability and other climate priorities.
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You know, if we ask everyone to electrify, how do we make sure that it's affordable for
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So that alliance should be going live this spring.
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we're having a lobby day in sacramento and there are many cities across the region
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mountain view is on the steering committee of that body as well and is one of the founding
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members of it so we're starting to think about our work kind of in these concentric circles you know
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we have a lot of work that we do right here in the city how can we make changes right on the ground
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in our own community. And then we still think about, we recognize that we're part of a community
53:07
that's countywide or even regional. You know, we're also doing work at the regional scale to
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make sure that the air district has rules that make sense and that help clean our air and reduce
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our emissions. And then now we're thinking about statewide, what can we do? What can we help
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precipitate if we work together with cities across the state to bring forward policies and legislation
53:29
It would not only affect Mountain View, but we still feel like it's important to work on it because climate change is just kind of one of those, you know, it's like a hairball.
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It's hard to untangle, but, you know, we recognize that it has a very far reach.
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And so we're trying to kind of be active at all the different levels, but in different ways.
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You know, like we're not as directly involved in the statewide as we are in what happens in our own city.
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Thank you for the question, committee member.
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Yes, last ones. You had mentioned something I was interested about. So like with the creation of ports, it's also of like, you know, supply and demand. Is there a demand for them?
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And are y'all creating like, I don't know, consolidated packets of information, if you will, for tenants who may be interested to making the transition from gas to electric vehicle for them in order to make these ports something that they would want to have at their place of residence?
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That is it. So we're in the very early stages of the program design. And I think that's a really great idea. We should come to you guys early with all of our programs because you guys have had some really great suggestions. That's something that we can look into. We hadn't yet identified all of the outreach strategies. So, yeah.
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And then I think earlier it was asked how many ports total we could fund with this program.
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And right now we're budgeted for 180 ports total and limiting to 18 ports per site.
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So a minimum of 10 properties, but some may be smaller and not need 18 ports.
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And so we're hopeful that it will serve more than 10 properties across the city.
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Well, thank you so much.
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We need to come to some of your meetings.
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We would love to have you.
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You're clearly champions.
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Just wanted to piggyback really quick off of, because I appreciate, Chair Pocon, you mentioning consolidated information for renters.
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And I guess just since since you did specifically ask for feedback on outreach strategies, something that I would like to know just based on I used to do multifamily outreach for setting up compost in Mountain View years ago.
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But anyway, something that I experienced sometimes with renters is that they don't always want to be the person that's bugging the property manager.
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And so, and yeah, you guys already know that, but just having a way that somebody can say,
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hey, I'm interested and here's the contact information for my property manager and you
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can, you know, you can let them know that I asked versus, hey, I'm interested.
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I would rather not be directly involved, but, you know, just, you can call my property,
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you can reach out to the property and say at least one of your residents is interested
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and open up the conversation that way.
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Because I know sometimes, especially these days with a lot of people feeling kind of
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nervous about their housing situation. People are afraid to kind of be the squeaky wheel or the
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tenant that keeps asking for stuff at properties. And so just a note on different options for
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renters to request outreach at their properties. Yeah, absolutely. We are more than happy to cold
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call property managers, you know, cold call and not mention that that was a referral.
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I also have my roots in solid waste and I used to befriend all of the custodial staff
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and they would tell me which departments at a different jurisdiction that weren't recycling
57:27
And then I would just drop in and check in on their programs and not tell them that they
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had been reported by the custodial staff.
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And I just kind of offered to help.
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So we would, of course, use a very similar approach.
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And yeah, we don't want anybody to feel nervous about approaching their property manager. That's certainly something we could manage to do.
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Thanks. Well, thank you so much, Sustainability Division Analyst Whitney Ramos and Chief Sustainability and Resilience Officer Daniel Lee for being with us tonight.
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Thank you for having us.
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Have a great evening.
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all right uh moving on to item seven committee member staff comments questions and committee
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member reports no discussion or action will be taken on any questions raised by the committee
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at this time state law prohibits the committee from discussing or acting on substantive non-agenda
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items does any committee member have anything to report
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Do you have something?
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Yeah, of course I do
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I have to make sure everyone else is
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We have a date for the
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Everything's starting to roll
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We push it out for the weather
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um they've we've extended time from three hours to four hours nice all right um
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uh it's available on the website for applications for the um to be a performer also to have a booth
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and also to display your art in the art gallery for the week um we want to try and do a bigger
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push this year for that. So we're hoping the committee members can help us with that,
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spread the word out, you know, use your Instagrams and all that to have, well, if you have an
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Instagram, to get that information out because we want more people to be able to bring in from
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other communities to display what's in their homes as well. The other thing that we came up with was
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an opportunity and we want to get feedback from you guys as well
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if we want to have a table at the event
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that we, besides going up to the stage and doing that,
1:00:08
actually have a table and talk more about what the HRC is doing.
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So we want to make sure that we get that information. I have to bring that back
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And that is it for now. Thank you. That's awesome news.
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yeah please if you could share with Laurel yeah and that way she could share with us that way we
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can push it out that'd be awesome thank you any other general announcements okay I have a few so
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I'm part of also the human rights commission with the county part of the pushes right now have been
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And as you all may have known, there is a Latino wellness assessment that Supervisor Sylvia Renis has pushed out.
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Right. And because of that, it's also influenced other demographics to kind of want an assessment within their own community.
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One of the ones that was really pushed for was the Black African-American Ad Hoc Committee.
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We pushed it forward as a recommendation to the supervisors to approve an Ad Hoc Committee such as this to assess the wellness of our Black.
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African-American community members within our county, see where we're at from back years then
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and what needs to be addressed moving forward. It sounds like they have also approved that
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committee's formation. So we're hoping in the months to come to hear more on that. And I'll
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report on that as well. It's Super Bowl Sunday or the big game this week. We do advise in case
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of any impacted members throughout the community in case they are fearful of a certain activity,
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to please call the Rapid Response Network, 408-290-1144. Do not spread rumors. Do not
1:02:01
share it with your friends. Just contact the network and don't go out and prove or disprove
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a rumor. We don't want to create more fear and pandemonium throughout this. I also got to
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be part of a conversation with Chief Cantfield and the members of Cafecito kind of with respects
1:02:22
to this issue or in some of the things that we'll be seeing throughout our city. One of them is an
1:02:27
increase of law enforcement not only within Mount for MVPD but other local departments in our Castro
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area Saturday and Sunday, both before the game and after the game too.
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Residents shouldn't be fearful of that, just normal protocol for those events, especially
1:02:48
with a lot of people coming along for tourism purposes.
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But again, the Rapid Response Network is there in case you really want to call them to be
1:02:57
able to go to that site and kind of investigate.
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And then, and that's it for my report. We are, actually, last thing, we are, for the Human Rights Commission, going to be doing an analysis in the near future with Medi-Cal impacts.
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As you know, because of HR1, a lot of folks, especially the immigrant community or undocumented community, got impacted in access to health care.
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And so it's still too early on to see the impact, but we know there's a huge impact on that.
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So we're hoping to get an update in that either in March or May.
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We meet every other month to see what's the general impact in the county,
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but also would be willing to ask even further in detail what's the impact within the city of Mount of View
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and things that we should be making our council members aware of.
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And that's it for my announcement.
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Just two things, kind of on the same note of what's happening with Super Bowl Sunday this weekend.
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I've had conversations with Chief Joseph over in the city of San Jose
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and then also Sheriff Johnson with the County of Santa Clara.
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And per county ordinance and state law, you know, we're going to see a lot of different colored uniforms,
1:04:25
but no local law enforcement is permitted to be masked. So that is like a good thing to remind
1:04:33
folks of, hey, you may see a lot of law enforcement. You may even see federal agents,
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but they will not be masked. And they'll be easily identifiable with a badge number and
1:04:45
everything. But of course, if you are not sure, call the Rapid Response Network first.
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And then something just of interest, Chief Canfield put out a message this week saying that all FLOC cameras in the city have been turned off.
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I do hope to see other cities follow suit in that sense because of data leaks to the federal government.
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And the council is going to be voting on February 24th to cancel the contract with FLOC.
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And I know that's been a large part of the conversation in terms of immigrant safety in Mountain View and in the broader community.
1:05:23
So just something to look out for. And I know that I'll be tracking that conversation to see, you know, how could potentially be replicated in other jurisdictions where we're seeing heightened surveillance in the name of safety.
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But it's actually causing a lot of fear in our community. So.
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What was that vote again?
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Yeah. Any other announcements before we conclude? Oh, yeah. Sorry.
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Principal analyst Laurel, do you have any announcements?
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I do have a couple. No worries. One is I want to make all of you aware that you may have noticed there's something missing from this meeting's agenda,
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which is typically per the HRC's bylaws.
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At the first meeting of the calendar year,
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we select the chair and vice chair.
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And that was due to staff error was not included on the agenda
1:06:20
before the Brown Act deadline.
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So it had to be rolled over to the March agenda.
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So I'll be doing that at your next meeting instead of this one.
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Apologies for me to you for that oversight.
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The second announcement that I have for you
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is that, as you all probably already know,
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there is a vacancy on the HRC.
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Applications for that vacancy are open
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until there's a sufficient number of applications
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to be considered.
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I'm not certain what that number is,
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but I can share with you when I learn it.
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And I have forwarded to all of you a flyer
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that has the vacancies that are currently open
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on Mountain View boards, commissions, and committees.
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So there's no specific deadline for that. But please, if you know someone interested, share with your networks, invite people to apply.
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And then finally, on the topic of the Super Bowl and special events, this Saturday in the downtown, there will be a city hosted Mountain View tailgate party called Fan Fest.
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It'll be from 2 to 5 p.m. again on Saturday, and you are welcome to come down and enjoy the festivities, which include music, games, giveaways, etc.
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So that would conclude my announcements for the committee.
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Thank you so much, Rol.
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I move us to item 8, adjournment.
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adjourn to the next regular meeting of the Human Relations Committee scheduled for March 5th,
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2026 at 6 30 p.m. in the Plaza Conference Room at Mountain View City Hall and virtually on Zoom.
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Thank you all for attending.