Good to go.

Yes.

Good evening.

I can see it moving.

No, that's fine.

We're we're fine.

Good evening.

And to all of the citizens and civic leaders that are here.

And so today I just ask that those that um are pleading their case and those that are making decisions today, or that the wisdom of the Lord would be with us, that we um that we would we would do what is right for human flourishing and for the growth of our community and the strength of our community, and uh Lord, I just asked that you would place a hand of protection around those that are leading the way here in Nampa, those that are protecting us through uh the first responders and those that are uh making decisions that impact all of our daily lives, that you'd protect them, that you'd guard their homes, that their homes would be uh just safe havens, uh a refuge, that they'd be places of peace, and that this city would continue to be just an absolutely wonderful place to live.

We love you, Lord, in Jesus' name, amen.

Would you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all occasionally uh during the evening that you may experience a slight pause.

That's okay because I'm transitioning between trying to lead the meeting and also thinking about an agenda item.

And I realize, and I haven't said that too much in the past weeks, but uh occasionally uh uh it seems like uh I've gone off uh course or silent, and uh it's because of trying to dual dual function on occasionally and especially during the public hearing time.

So appreciate your patience there, and clerk will call the roll.

Scog here Jingula Bills here, Reynolds here Rodriguez, Griffin, for present, two absent.

Thank you, Shar.

Tonight we have two uh proclamations that uh going to read and uh going to uh present one to Lou Randolph, and so thank you for standing there.

So whereas the annual distribution of buddy poppies of by the fore by the veterans of foreign wars of the United States has been officially recognized and endorsed by governmental leaders since 1922, and VFW buddy poppies are assembled by disabled veterans and proceeds of this worthy fundraising campaign are used exclusively for the benefit of disabled and veterans in need and the widows and orphans of deceased veterans, and whereas the basic purpose of the annual distribution of buddy poppies by the veterans of foreign wars is eloquently reflected in the desire to honor the dead by helping the living.

And whereas I urge the citizens of this community to recognize the merits of this cause and support their efforts to recognize the sacrifices of our honored dead.

I also urge all patriotic citizens to wear a buddy poppy as mute evidence of our gratitude to the men and women of this country and who have risked their lives in defense of freedoms.

We continue to enjoy as American citizens.

Now, therefore, I David Bills, council president of the city of Nampa of Idaho, do hereby proclaim the days of May 21st, 22nd, and 23rd as 2026 as VFW Buddy Poppy Days.

I furthermore urge citizens to support the VFW and go visit them at Alberts at 12th and Greenhurst, DMB Supply 12th Avenue, May 21st, 22nd, and 23rd.

So welcome to say something and just talking the nation and I want to thank the city.

We've been doing the post in auxiliary has been existence since 1936, and I'm sure Nampa has supported the veterans ever since.

He's been handling the Betty Poppies because I hurt myself and I have been busy.

But we want to thank you for all you've done.

I don't have any poppies today to give out.

We usually do come by DMB and Albertson on 12th Avenue, and we'll be there from 9 o'clock to 4.

been doing the between him the last two years he's been handling the Betty Poppies because I hurt myself and I have been busy but we want to thank you for all you've done I don't have any poppies today to give out we usually do come by DMB and Albertson on 12th Avenue and we'll be there from nine o'clock to uh to four every day Thursday Friday Saturday excellent thank you Don you want to say something well I guess you could I'd like to welcome everybody here at Alverson Street here donations every bit of all the money that we take in anything no matter what they need if we want to very hard headed and I'm gonna make sure thanks that's it that's it that's it thank you very much we can't get by I'll come in and check on I learned accountability when I was a youngster and it still holds true today all right we have one more proclamation so this proclamation is uh national public works week and whereas public works professionals focus on infrastructure facilities and services that are vital importance in sustainable and resilient communities and to the public health high quality of life and well being of the people of the city of Nampa and whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public work professionals who are engineers managers and employees at all levels of government and the private sector and whereas in public works professionals are responsible for rebuilding improving and protecting our nation's transportation water supply water treatment solid waste systems public buildings and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens and whereas it is in the public interest for civic leaders and citizens of all ages in the city of Napa to gain knowledge of and to maintain an interest in an understanding of the importance of public works and public works programs in the respective communities and whereas the city of Nampa is the largest full service city in the state of Idaho and whereas the year 2026 marks the 66th annual National Public Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association and Canadian Public Works Association.

Now therefore I David Bill's council president of the city of Nampa do hereby proclaim may 17th through May 23rd 2026 as National Public Works Week and so I would urge you to uh continue to give thanks or if you see folks who are in the public works side of life to acknowledge uh their work and we're appreciative to that counsel are you in another uh crutch there with uh are you missing another crutch no I've not yet I don't haven't had to do that yet thank you for asking counselor I just want to say thank you for recognizing Public Works Week we always have a lot of fun here with doing some events for the school kids over at the uh streets yard all the public works gets involved in that it's a great thing for the community um I want to also just again thank counsel for all the support and it definitely takes an entire team to deliver what we do in public works and we're proud and happy to do it so thank you.

Excellent thanks Tom we can do a quick photo photograph everything triple this is important well at this time we're going to do one other uh event is the city of Napa under the leadership of Amy Bowman

Well, at this time we're going to do one other uh event is the city of Nampa under the leadership of Amy Bowman as uh handled and organized a uh Citizens Academy and Citizen Academy is allows for folks to sign up and to participate for several weeks learning about the intro to the uh details of the city of Nampa and uh operation of uh the city.

And so tonight we're gonna recognize those who have been involved and then uh and Amy's gonna help take the lead on that and I'm coming down so there'll be just a slightly and I'll I'll just say just oh a few words and then I don't know if any we have a few people who are in our video at the end, but if there's anybody else that really wanted to say a few words, you're welcome to.

So thank you.

This is our third year for the Citizens Academy.

Councilwoman Scog went through it last year before she was elected, so that was exciting.

She got to see um learned a lot through um all the different departments and so many of them participate and um this year we're excited we got to go to the water renewal facility.

Things I never thought I'd say before I worked in government, but there it is.

And um I I do want to recognize Vanessa Jimenez who did a whole bunch of work behind the scenes.

So I this will be one I will not soon forget because this was the the evening of our I can't remember this our circ second or third class when I was sharing here and then got the council um Mayor Hogeboum was in a critical incident.

So it was a very interesting year, um very very sad, but um anyway it was also very educational.

So does anybody want to share anything before we do the video?

And it's only three minutes, so okay.

So now hopefully it works.

I so enjoyed the Citizens Academy.

It was a wonderful experience, and even though I've been involved with the city for about attending city council meetings for five years, I learned so much through these classes, and I highly recommend that um if you have the opportunity to to um take the classes because you'll learn so much about the complexities of the the city and you'll get to meet the great people who serve us as employees.

And it it's just a fantastic opportunity.

So take advantage of it.

Well the citizens academy I thought was great as a city employee.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff you really don't know about the city, and if you live in Nampa, I think it's a perfect opportunity for you to learn a lot of what goes on and what each department does to keep the city running pretty pretty cool.

One thing as a citizen of Nampa for over 40 years.

Um it's just really nice to learn about the city you live in and especially when you have a lot of neighbors and community members that don't have the correct information when they want to have dialect with you know what goes on within a city.

It's just really nice to learn where your tax money dollars go and how the city operates as a whole.

So I am just so excited that I took this um Nampa Citizens Academy.

I think it was eight weeks long, so it wasn't a huge huge amount of time to commit to.

But I have lived in Nampa for over twenty years, and I've learned more about my city in eight weeks than I've known this whole twenty years.

So I strongly recommend this.

I've talked about it to everyone since I started it.

I've learned so many wonderful things.

I've met a lot of really cool people, and it's just been the most enjoyable experience.

Okay, so with that, Clay Long is going to be brief brave.

Now be nice because some of your names are complicated.

So um he's going to so he will um he will announce your name, you'll come up, and I will take a picture with your certificate facing like this.

And then we'll have you guys stand in the back and then we'll do one photo at the very end.

Okay.

Okay.

And I asked if I could just do first names and she said no.

So uh we're gonna start with Henry Hatasino.

Yep, that one.

Got it.

Wait, you have to be in the picture too.

Oh, okay.

You're gonna picture in the middle.

You stand in the middle, Henry.

No, you're gonna be the next will be easier.

No, it's not easier.

The name is Lydia Booter office.

That one.

Congratulations.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh Iliana Carson.

John Forrest.

Linda Hartz.

If y'all will come back over here by me, we want to shake your hands as well.

So, sir, come back over.

Oh, yeah, let's do this.

Chris Haskell.

Cheryl Higley.

I know.

Jerry Ann Ireland.

Dylan's not here.

Surely.

Amity Marcado.

Rosa is not here.

Chris Aker.

We did it.

Congratulations.

Carmen St.

Louis.

Joe Shefferell.

Carol Shackelford.

Sandra Smith.

She's been coding for it.

Jay Snyder.

You mean to take it?

Uh no, it's okay.

There we go.

All right, Master.

Yeah, maybe.

I mean, if you and then the short analysis, you don't have to document, not me.

So we're back on that.

Okay.

Amy, thank you very much.

On the night that uh Rick passed uh Citizen Academy was meeting.

And uh and that was uh obviously a difficult meeting for folks who are here, but also for the staff who was here and uh so that uh kind of uh hallmark evening for those who were here participating, and uh we appreciate uh how everybody uh handled uh the news and the situation that we walked through that evening.

We'd like to move forward with uh any amendments to the agenda?

Uh President, yes, I do have like to take one ten B off.

One ten discuss that is that D or B.

The B is in voice, sir one ten B.

It is the purchase of water division pipe parts tent canvas replacement miscellaneous items.

So it's after the license renewals?

Yes, sir.

And you said B.

Yes, B is in boy.

Okay.

So we'll move uh one B or excuse me, one-the ten B to uh new business.

John Spencer is he here this evening, John.

Thank you.

So not yet, but here soon.

Any other comments or changes?

All in favor with the change that has been made.

Thank you, Sher.

So with that change, uh need a motion to adopt the agenda.

So moved.

Second.

All in favor?

Hi.

Um sixty-six thousand dollars uh for a tent.

Is that uh that's a replacement for what you're covering some of material, right?

Uh Council President Bills, Councilman Rodriguez, John Spencer, Director of Water Resources.

Uh yes, this is replacing the tent canvas over the existing structure.

The tent canvas is um it's end of its useful life, and it uh that tent is where we store a lot of our pipe for replacements.

Okay, so have you had since it's sixty-six thousand, have you had any other ideas of equal costs that would be a better better uh facility?

Or lumin or tin or or something a little more sturdier than a tenth.

Council President Bills, Councilman Rodriguez.

Um as far as costs go, this is really the most cost-effective way to protect that material.

Um really we're just looking to protect it from UV.

Uh so the tent um really is the the most cost effective way uh to protect that.

I see.

One more or less, sir.

Um where is this sixty-six thousand coming from?

Councilman Bills, Councilman Rodriguez, the is coming from the uh capital budget from uh the water division.

And then there's a portion coming from operations because of the difference in the price from when we priced it during the budget season last year.

I think when that first came out, you were in the 50s, right?

That is correct.

And now it's up to 66.

Why the increase?

Uh Councilman Rodriguez, the the increase is due to manufacturing cost.

Um I believe it's also petroleum-based and with a cost of petroleum products uh in the current situation, those costs have gone up.

They have said also these prices only will be guaranteed for 15 days.

I see.

So will this affect the increase in uh property taxes by where you get the money from?

I don't remember where you get it from.

Councilman Rodriguez, um, the water division is funded by rates.

Um this is a operational and capital combined uh budget source.

Um this is all within the the existing budget and will not relate directly back to rates.

Okay, one last sir.

Is this in the amended budget that we're gonna be that finances gonna be presenting?

Councilman Rodriguez, this is in the approved budget.

Oh, I see a twenty-six budget.

Correct.

Okay, that's all.

Thank you.

John, thank you.

So need a motion uh to approve.

Still move, sir.

Second.

Any discussion?

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Staff communications, public works communication.

Tom and Crystal.

Crystal, it's good to see you.

You're moving, you're agile.

So life's going great.

Tom's coming.

Yeah.

At your expense, we needed a little humor, very okay.

All right.

Crystal.

Good evening, Council members.

For the record, Crystal Craig, Director of Transportation.

Um today I would like to give a report out on May 7th, so just a couple weeks ago, last week.

No, two weeks ago.

I don't know what day it is.

In the very recent past, we uh hosted our fourth annual heavy equipment rodeo and welcome contestants from the streets, traffic, water, water renewal, and parks divisions this year.

It's a competition uh event that features a skills-based course for loaders and snowplows and skidstairs highlighting the expertise of our dedicated staff in daily operations.

Uh Kelly and Casey, our public's communication team developed this little video that I'd like to share.

Thanks, Claire, for stopping that.

That would have just kept on a loop.

So as you can see, that was a little snippet of what it looked like for the day.

The course is actually very, very challenging.

We had two council members that came and joined this year.

Councilman Reynolds, I think, has been in the equipment in previous years, and Councilman Griffin actually, you saw on the video right there, he was operating the loader when he made that basket.

So we're very excited to have your guys' support.

With that, I'd like to bring up a couple of people that made this happen as well as uh showcase our winners of this year.

So I'd like to invite Tomas Chavez up.

And gentlemen, if you when I call your names, if you could come up, I'd appreciate it.

So this is as I said, this is our fourth year.

Tomas really took the bull by the horns, so to speak, this year, volunteered to host it and put it on completely.

It showed great leadership potential, and he really excelled at it.

He put up he brought in a couple of new innovative ideas.

And because of that, this was our largest turnout yet.

Um we had 20 participants and 12 participants, I believe, were from other divisions.

Did I get that right?

Um which is really really awesome.

We don't just have great operators in our streets divisions, we have great operators across the city, so we're here to showcase all of them.

With that, I would like to talk about our four overall winners.

Uh first, I'd like to bring out bring up Brad Farner from the Streets Division.

He was this year's overall first place winner.

Next, I'd like to bring up Sean Swainson.

He's actually uh from our fleet division.

He won not only the loader competition, but also the Skid Stair competition.

Next, I'd like to bring up Doug Eakin from our streets division.

He won the snowplow competition.

And last but certainly certainly not least, I'd like to bring up Bert Croy.

He was a two-time winner uh from two previous years, and it it doesn't, it just makes sense that he's in this year's top contenders, too.

So these four winners will travel to the APWA National Equipment Rodeo in Loveland, Colorado this September.

Not only will the employees gain insights that they can bring back to our organization, but we'll also have the chance to network with and learn from peers and industry leaders.

They will also have the unique opportunity to showcase their skills during the national demonstration.

I'd also like to note in the last few years we have placed top ten in the nation.

Um and this really highlights our commitment to the excellence and innovation in their fields.

So thank you, gentlemen.

Okay, council, we have one more recognition for you.

Um I want to not sure everybody knew we've got a challenge coin program in public works uh where uh employees or supervisors can nominate their peers.

Um it goes through a committee, internal committee, and we decide this this one is we don't usually come to council but what we give out these, but we think this one's pretty cool, and it's a good story.

So the things that we uh consider for the challenge coins are retirements, heroism, innovations that are major cost savings of city, lifetime achievements, safety achievements.

you um I was not sure everybody knew we've got a challenge coin program in public works uh where uh employees or supervisors can nominate their peers um and we it goes to a committee internal committee and we decide this this one is we don't usually come to council but what to give out these but we think think this one's pretty cool and it's a good story so the things that we uh consider for the challenge coins are retirements heroism innovations that are major cost savings of the city lifetime achievements safety achievements so if I could have AJ come up AJ Bill Jack so I'll as he's coming up I'll tell the story here so I'll just read what um the reason for the nomination AJ helped Austin who was stuck in the mud in his electric wheelchair near Northside and third he had been there approximately five minutes before AJ noticed and offered to help Austin then had this to say on online submittal form good morning I'm writing to congratulate AJ with the traffic division of helping me with my wheelchair on north side and second I was stuck in the mud with my wheelchair and he pushed me out and got me to the sidewalk want to make sure this got to his supervisor absolutely stunning man sincerely Austin so excellent is there anything else I'm not moving I'm standing right now this is most exercise you've had all day I know Rodney Planning and zoning director Rodney Ashby thank you you bet uh council president and and city council we had uh three different consent agenda items on uh planning and zoning commissions uh meeting this last week uh the first one was fenway number two subdivision uh final plat subdivision and that was recommended for approval that will come that came to you and was on your consent agenda today um and the next one was a final plot approval for seven maples ranch subdivision again was on your consent agenda um that was number subdivision number three and then just uh an extension for a final plot approval for uh fenway number one that's for a year extension and that was approved um the public hearings we had uh comprehensive plan map amendment at 5601 east locust lane for a cottage style townhouse development that was uh recommended for denial um and that was five in favor of the done denial and two against and that will come before you on July 20th um the next one is uh short plat for happy valley industrial development at 76 north happy valley road and this is for four industrial lots and that was recommended for approval and um that was on your uh uh your consent agenda today and then finally the uh city ordinance text amendments that we've been working on that one was uh recommended for approval and that will come before you on June 15th and that's all I have Rodney thank you any questions council ever good okay appreciate the update so moving on with uh new business uh five one is a uh action item and looking for Tom uh sir I'll make a motion to approve James Blitz with the board of appraisers motion and a second to appoint uh James Bloodsoe uh all in favor roll call Gog yes Bills yes Reynolds yes Rodriguez all in favor motion carries James it's good to see you just uh an FYI he knows this his father was the city engineer of the city of Nampa when uh my father and I came to NAMPA uh in 94 and started putting in developments and uh his father was a uh super individual to work with and uh at times uh helped us out at us having opportunity to help the city out it was a great uh working relationship and uh james has been involved in helping engineering issues as well as serving uh and uh with the city of Napa as well and so we just really appreciate and thank you for continuing to go on to another time to continue to help us so I know you'd love to speak you're good I said that a little bit in jest knowing so

It was a great uh working relationship, and uh James has been involved in helping engineering issues as well as serving uh and uh with the city of Napa as well, and so we just really appreciate and thank you for continuing to go on to another time to continue to help us.

So I know you'd love to speak.

I said that a little bit in Jess.

Knowing so we appreciate yes.

Okay, we're gonna keep moving.

Uh business item 5-2 is to award a bid and authoriz council president to sign contract with Hobson Fabricating for the Hugh Nichols Public Safety Building Condenser Water System Upgrades project and the amount of 76,350, and it's uh budgeted item.

Clay Council President.

I'll make a motion to approve this item.

Um, and then I have one comment on that as soon as we get a second on it.

There are second second and a second question.

So Council President, I spoke with Clay about this earlier.

Um, I would like to uh the what was in our packet seemed to be a corrupted file, so I wasn't able to review it, and I missed the last uh construction meeting.

Um but uh I would like to have some information on what the spec was for the uh water treatment for this for our closed loop at Hugh Nichols, and then also for the new condenser water system what the chemical treatment is.

So uh it looks like we're under budget on it, so if it's not in there, it's probably the most important thing we can spend dollars on is water treatment for that closed loop.

So I would like to have some follow-up information on that if you can.

Council President, Councilman, we'll get you the file and document and then I brian give you a call for some time.

Thank you.

Great.

Thank you.

Any other comments, questions?

Uh yes, sir.

I have some.

Yes.

Is there any alternative for a lower cost of system that you can put in there other than what this company's telling us to do?

Council President, Councilman, uh, for the size of the building, it's in line with what we would expect.

What we're trying to do is abandon the current system that's the high energy efficiency.

Additionally, we're putting backup and additional uh units for upstairs in the command center and dispatch.

So, in the event that power goes out, those are on a separate system.

Um I think when we look at some of our other buildings that are not quite that size, we're looking at a similar cost for an HVAC um replacement.

Okay, where where is this money coming from?

Um this was in the FY26 budget uh from the Capitol projects.

Um we allocated in FY25 council approved 150,000 to get the design work going, and then they allocated an additional 850 for the FY26 budget.

Um you'll notice this comes in about a hundred thousand under budget.

Yes, I and I'm thinking is is this in the is this in the police budget or is it totally separate?

It's in the capital budget for the facilities, not allocated specific to the police department.

Okay, it's not coming out of police, right?

That's that's what we had.

I wanted to make sure that uh also what is the time frame that they're gonna start on this.

That's a great question.

I would have to get the project manager involved for that.

Um, I suspect as soon as we get the contract signed, we would get a project uh scope of plan put together for dates.

Um obviously our goal is quick as possible.

Uh the system we have now is working okay, um, but we recognize we have issues with it every year, so the systems will be able to run simultaneously while they make the changeover.

Okay, one and one last question, sir.

One thing I'm asking one wondering about this is because due to the costs that are rising now.

Is this a fixed amount or is that gonna increase that's the amount that was submitted in the bid package, so they would be held to that amount.

Thank you.

That's one reason we're trying to get these projects out the door.

Council President.

Yes.

I might just uh add that building was built with as a green project failed.

It was a ground source uh heat pump loop, and uh nothing but problem since it was in place, and this is um this is my line of work.

Um I reviewed the documents until the file kind of blew up on me.

Um spoke with Bill Musgrove about it at length.

The numbers that came back, I was surprised that we were under budget.

There was some good numbers here, and I think it's partly due to the ad or the uh alternates that are allowed substitutions on pumps and cooling tower and that kind of thing in the boilers.

This is the best fix for that building.

Uh it hasn't been reliable, it's been hot, it's been cold, it's been everything in between, and this will give them uh tunes.

So confident with what Musgrove designed for us, and um then the prices we got back are seem to be.

Roll call.

Bills, yes, Rodriguez, yes, Gog.

Yes, Reynolds, yes, all in favor, motion carries.

Our next item is uh action item uh authorize uh execution of a public works task order for next gen for asset management software implementation for streets, traffic, airport, and the amount not to exceed 182,072.

Crystal is available if you have questions.

Council President, I'll make a motion to approve this item.

Is there a second?

We have a motion and a second.

Any discussion?

Clerk recall the roll.

Bills, yes, Rodriguez, yes, Gog.

Yes, Reynolds.

All in favor, motion carries.

Action item uh new business 5-4 is uh to authorize execution of a contract with HDR Inc.

for the transportation master plan update in the amount not to exceed 776, 178.

And uh it was approved under the FY26 operations budget and pending approval of a budget amendment for rollover funds.

Crystal is available as well, as if you have questions on this one.

I do have questions.

You'd come forward.

Councilman Rodriguez.

Thank you.

So in 25, we approved apparently 200,000 and 26 200,000 and 27 400,000.

Why is the $200,000 difference?

Uh for the record, council members, Crystal Craig, Director of Transportation.

Um, Councilman Rodriguez.

So we originally put this out for RFP in fiscal year 2025, so we fully anticipated to start the project in 25, spend around 200,000 and then continuing it in 26.

Um we had a very large wish list of items and a very limited budget to get it, so it took a significant amount of time of rescoping and negotiations in order to get it to the point that we're at now.

The original scope based on our current wish list of like what we wanted in this was about one point two five million dollars.

So it took us that six to nine months to remove scope, negotiate hours down, and we were able to reduce the cost of this project by 42 percent, which is what we're presenting to you now.

Yes, follow up, yes.

Does this include their who them coming to NAMPA spending time in NAPA?

We paying for all their motels and travel time and hourly wage and everything else expense that they're giving us because I don't think 776,000.

I think that's way too much council president, councilman Rodriguez.

Um HDR are is the consultant that we negotiated with for this.

They are a local firm, they're located in downtown Boise, so they do have to travel the half hour that it takes here.

Um much of this work will be on a planning level, so it's it's not necessarily in-field work as much.

We have a pavement condition index, which we'll be doing in-house and providing the information that will require that.

Um, but other than that, a lot of the work isn't isn't travel-based and they are local.

Okay, the last last question.

So do you think that one of our in-house could do this?

Councilman, um absolutely not if I'm being very candid.

Um we did a literature survey, so to speak, of other entities of similar size that had to do a transportation master plan update like this.

We were able to get five different people or five different cities.

It's very hard to compare apples to apples here because every city is a different size, they all have different problems.

Um we looked at Spokane, Washington.

They had six internal staff people for one and a half years.

Um and some of them, I guess we're a half a year.

So five total full-time equivalents for a year and a half to get their master transportation plan updated.

Logan, Utah, um, also used internal staff, and they paid a consultant 200,000.

The city of Bend, which is probably the most similar in size and structure to the city of NAMPA, um, completely outsource this to a consultant.

It costs them 1.6 million dollars in order to accomplish it.

Um I feel confident that what we have negotiated with HDR will give us the best product and the best bang for our buck from this.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah.

Crystal, once this plan is done, is it a five-year, ten-year out?

What's I think it's listed in there, but I don't I don't recall, so I'm asking.

You're good.

Great question, Councilman Bells.

Uh, typically we like to see master plan updates every five to seven years.

Our last one was in 2019, so I stretched it to that seven-year mark, first because they're expensive, and second because I'm trying to align the transportation master plan with the utility master plan.

So we're not updating one when one is really old and they don't mat match very well.

So we're trying to get them closer to alignment.

Great.

And then their work will be consistent with some of the work that we've already been designing and pre-planning for like the Gardy area is already kind of in motion on design and so forth.

Absolutely.

So this master plan update will look at the compass comprehensive plan, uh, the comp plan update that our uh that Rodney is doing and his team is doing, as well as developing an entirely new ITS plan.

We didn't have one in the past because we didn't have our transportation management center, um, and bringing in the bike and ped master plan, which used to be a standalone plan and now will be part of the transportation process right at the beginning instead of coming in at the tail end.

Great.

Other questions finance question Doug?

Go Doug, the 400,000 since our budget's gonna be really tight this year.

Yeah, I consider this timing issue.

Uh we already have 4,000, 400,000 in there now from previous years, but why we come on up with a 400,000 for a year at 27.

Well, let's um separate a couple of issues here.

We are going to be perpetually tied on budgets, whether it's streets or general government or anybody else, so we need to make sure we're spending those monies wisely.

However, be aware that the general government monies that we receive for police and most of the funding of the city operations you see here are property tax and shared revenue while the funds coming to support most of what Crystal is doing come from highway district revenues, road and bridge tax, and various other funding sources.

There's a little bit of property tax thrown in there.

Um so this becomes a matter of a priority.

The fund they have funding there, but it's the matter of priorities of where they spend it to get the most bang for the buck.

And if you know, I I can't speak to the the need of the of the um uh master study.

It seems like a lot to me, but it's not a question of of do they have the money, it's a question is is the money being spent correctly on this right project.

And I I can't answer that, but that's a question for you and the council to determine.

Follow up, sir.

So then if we could give them just say 400,000 now, and then then in the and an amended 28, 27, 28 budget, we could give them another 400,000 when things we can see with the budget's all about.

Is that smart thing?

Well, it depends on what you're trying to get out of the project.

I don't know if you could I'm I I'm gonna jump in.

No we if if we're gonna enlist their help and contract with them to do the job, uh, it's for the whole job.

And so we've got to uh commit at the beginning because we're expecting them to come in and deliver uh the study, the plan that we need that's gonna help us for the next several, like uh Crystal said, a good five to seven years minimum.

And uh so it it's not a we start, and then if we don't have the money, we we're we're determining right now we're gonna budget, we're gonna set the money uh for this project.

Uh it's crucial for us to keep the infrastructure design work and planning uh moving forward.

So it's a commitment now, but it it will be wise that we do so.

I'm struggling, sorry.

If I may also add uh council president and councilman Rodriguez, uh for the bulk of the grants that we go for, uh, in order to be eligible for them, we have to show that we have long-range planning and have a prioritized list of projects.

Um this will also look into our deferred maintenance problem, which was not really addressed in our previous plans.

So this will really give us a prioritized list of what roads we need to hit first, um, what's going to give us the hard highest ROI, provide the best safety benefits and things like that, so that we're not trying to just do it in-house and pick based on what we think is the worst.

Uh it will also look into workforce development and give us better insights of what we need, how many people we need to maintain the roads, what sorts of equipment we need, and things like that.

So if we approve this, then it opens the door on federal grants for a few.

Okay, that's all we need to hear.

Okay.

I think we have a motion on the president.

I make a motion to approve this item.

Thank you.

We have a motion and a second.

Clerk will call the roll.

Bills.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Yes.

Bog.

Yes.

Reynolds.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Next, uh, we're close to the public hearing time, but want to get this uh next uh action item in.

Uh parks and rec requests authorization for reallocation of 90,000 that wasn't needed on the fiscal 26 West Park and moving it to another place.

Cody, thank you.

Council President, I'll make a motion to approve this item.

I'll second.

Any discussion?

Clerk call the roll.

Yes.

Bills.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Yes.

Reynolds.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Cody, you did well.

That was a good exercise up and back.

Let's see.

We have another one more action item.

The first reading of the ordinance and approval of publication of ordinance summary expanding the boundaries of the municipal irrigation district of the city of Nampa by inclusion of real properties contained in exhibit A.

And Daniel has put this together.

Is there any questions for him?

And we are asking to uh pass this under suspension of rules.

In order to the city of Napa, Idaho, annexing a portion of the underlying irrigation district into the municipal irrigation district of the city of Napa, Canyon County, Idaho, and changing the boundaries thereof, allowing for a summary of this ordinance to be published and directing the city engineer to alter the use and area map accordingly, providing for recordation, providing for several ability, providing the effective date.

Repealing all ordinances, resolutions, orders, or parts thereof in conflict here with.

Council President, I move that we pass this under suspension of rules.

We have a motion and a second to pass under suspension of rules.

The ordinance has been first read.

Any other thoughts, questions?

Clerk will call the rule.

Bills.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Yes.

Scog.

Yes.

Reynolds.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Next is our public hearing time, and it's six o'clock, and so we're going to proceed forward.

Uh with the first public hearing, and which is uh the proposed fiscal 26 first budget amendment.

And Doug, I think left the bench and is right there.

Thank you.

I wasn't saying you're behind the screen.

Not trying to hide.

Just just a five second.

Oops, what we're what's going.

There we go.

Oh great.

Make that a bit larger.

Okay.

Council president, counselors.

This is the first budget amendment for FY26.

We typically do two, one in the spring and one in the fall.

Uh the first one, and this is the no exception, is primarily related to rollovers of expenditures budgeted in the prior year or prior years that have not been completed, and we're rolling funds from one year to the next for the budgetary completion.

Um we break it down between the types of spending, which would be new items or new budgetary items as compared to rollovers.

So I'd like to spend just a minute walking through some of the significant items here for your approval.

All of the items here, and if you don't have this, I can send it to you.

And in this attachment uh on one of the tabs here, it goes, it shows the approval date of each of these items uh in prior city councils.

So we can if you if it's not in your current file, I can send that to you.

Uh the first section of the of let me briefly go down to the bottom.

The total amendment request is for 14 million seven hundred and forty-two thousand two hundred and twenty-six dollars.

Um that's not a bad rollover.

When we first seek uh input from the departments, we filter out a lot of things that are uncertain.

So if a department says, Oh, I'm likely to spend money on something, I want to roll it over.

Uh we if they're not entirely certain that it's ready to go, it's gonna happen.

We make them defer it until the August amendment when they when they've are if they've already received budgetary authority from the council, they can go ahead and proceed and then we can amend it later.

But we spend a lot of time weeding out all the things we don't need to.

Small expenses, two, three, four or five thousand dollars that can be absorbed in current budgetary authorities, or um significant rollovers that are uncertain.

Um so we spend a fair amount of time, probably about two months really putting this together.

So this is represents a lot of work uh to get the numbers.

But in this case, out of the 14 million dollars, six point five million dollars are for new items, and the majority of that comes from grants and water renewal, 4.6 million dollars in grants.

That's an airport or the airport, AWAS, stormwater and streets grants.

Those are new grants we've received after the end of the budget year.

So they're not coming from property tax dollars, it's new monies coming to the city from outside sources.

Uh there's a police vehicle for $91,000.

It was for a vehicle per ordered in the prior year but not delivered in yeah, pretty much till this year.

Water renewal 1.5 for order of equipment in the prior year that didn't get here until now, and some streets and traffic for um work at Pine and Lincoln, Greenhurst and Roosevelt and Marketplace.

And that's all the requests for the new monies.

And looking down at the existing or the uh the the uh rollovers, we have about 10 or 15 items.

Most of them are very um uh small, minor small in amounts, uh only one from general government, uh which is funded by the rollover from funds from the prior year, 141,000 for security upgrades and uh rollover of some legal funds for the legal department from the FY25 budget.

And the security upgrades are primarily here in City Hall.

Uh the NAPEX Civic Center are 430,000.

Uh we budgeted this correctly in 2026, uh, but we didn't extend the budget to go to the Civic Center.

We kind of left it in our capital department.

So this isn't a new spend.

This is just making sure it's budgeted appropriately at its ending designation, which is uh and the NAMPAC Civic Center, and that was for a sound system and theater seats.

Um airport, a small small uh uh AWAS match for the AWAS and Stormwater Department funding, Harvard Direct Center, the bigger one for streets, multiple street projects in 25, and if you'd like me to do, I can bring them up.

It's on the adjacent street or the adjacent tab.

Um some impact fees uh for the uh Ustit Corridor, 458,000.

There's some capital projects from the parks, the police, and uh other police two sections, 213,400 and 665701 are both uh partly related to the police and uh flooring motorcycles.

The 213,000 was for motorcycles we ordered in the prior year that are delivered this year, and a little bit of the uh geothermal upgrade design that was talked about in an earlier uh cycle tonight for the uh you Nichols Public Safety Building um HVAC upgrade.

And then there's some water spending rollovers for uh water 16th and 9th line replacement and the water the admin building.

Uh there are also a grant of 1.7 million dollars for ARPA funding.

That's the uh probably the one of the last times we'll bring home forward the grant funding uh for ARPA.

Uh it's rolling it over for 16th and 19th.

As many of you are aware, all of the ARPA funds need to be completely spent by the end of calendar 26, and well, we're all well on our way to that.

We have very little left over.

This is just one of the last numbers.

So that leaves us with the residual uh or the total for the 14.7 million dollars in um spending.

It's worthy to note that the fund balance is accounting for about 9.4 million dollars of the spend plus 141 from general government, as well as new funding transfers uh 5.1 million dollars, 5.177 million dollars.

And with that, I'll stand for any questions or go into any details you counselors would like to talk about.

Doug, thank you.

Council, any questions for Doug?

Seeing what the amendments are going towards so I would uh make no public hearing.

So I would uh make a motion, sir.

No, this is public hearing.

Never mind.

Public hearing.

Doug, thank you.

That's all I have.

Yep.

This is a public hearing, and so uh if you have do we have anybody signed up?

No, Mr.

Chair.

Is there anybody here wishing to testify on this particular item of the public hearing?

Not seeing any.

Have a motion and a second.

All in favor say aye.

Is there any other discussion or questions?

Clerk will call the roll.

Well, we don't have a motion.

Sorry about that.

Ms.

President, I'll move that we uh pass this uh budget amendment as presented.

There's a second.

Councilman Rodriguez.

Second, thank you.

I just want to make sure you did say second.

Oh yes.

I keep hearing feedback over on the right side.

We're going on our head.

Okay, we have a motion and a second.

Now we'll call for roll call.

God, yes, Bill, yes, Rodriguez.

Yes, I also want to point out that this does not increase property taxes at all.

It's already been funded.

Yes.

Reynolds.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Excellent.

Our next uh public hearing is a variance uh that's what's in seven.

Thank you.

Well, bear with my inexperience.

So action item is to first reading of ordinance uh adopting the fiscal 26 first budget amendment, and the request is to pass this under suspension of rules.

In order to the city of Napa, Idaho, amending appropriate appropriations ordinance for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2025 and ending September 30th, 2026, appropriating additional monies that are to be received by the city of Napa, Idaho, and provide an effective date.

Mr.

President, I move this pass under suspension of rules.

Second, we have a motion and a second to pass the ordinance under suspension of rules.

Any other discussion?

Clerk will now call the rule.

Bills, yes, Rodriguez, yes, gog, yes, reynolds.

All in favor, motion carries.

Excellent.

Public hearing 6-2 is a variance uh to the ordinance uh requiring a minimum of 8500 square feet dealing with some changes that took place, and so um the applicant here later in the good evening, council.

Um my name is Wendy Sharif.

I'm a director of Forida Planning with KB Home, and I'm here this evening um with the variance request, and I'll kind of explain the basis of our request.

Um variance is a serious thing, but I think in this instance we do we do qualify um and meet your criteria.

Uh we are see I'll go ahead and move to the next slide.

This is gonna tell you we're great.

I'll skip through that.

Um, so Cherry Grove number six.

I want to show you where this phase is located.

We are in the last phase of Cherry Grove subdivision.

Um, so we have completed and recorded final plats for the first five phases when this plat with the preliminary plat was originally approved.

Pioneer irrigation did not have a policy where they required for their easements for their laterals to be entirely outside of subdivision lots.

So I'll go ahead and show you our plat.

Um in this instance we have seven lots that are we are underneath the minimum for our PUD which we received with the RS 8.5 zoning.

Um we are underneath by the minimum lot size of 6,800 square feet for seven of these lots, and this is where we are bordering uh where we have the 5.5 lateral in the rear yards on the previous phases of the subdivision where we were adjacent to this lateral portions of this easement we had run through the residential lots.

With this change with pioneer, they are now requiring that that easement for the lateral be held in its own common lot.

With that change, we have seven lots in this corner where we are adjacent to this lateral, where we are slightly under the minimum lot size.

We still um will meet all required setbacks for that zone, and our homes will still fit.

So really it's it's the material change is rather than a portion of that easement being in our rear yard, it is going to be in a common lot adjacent to those residential lots.

So our lots are slightly smaller when we'd originally designed the subdivision with the pulmonary flat.

This code was not on the books with pioneer irrigation research, or we would have planned accordingly at that time.

So the the variance request is really so that we can continue our subdivision and plat out our entitled lots.

This is the last phase.

If we've been earlier on in the phase, we potentially could have moved open space or moved roadways.

When you're in the last phase of a subdivision, you're essentially kind of boxed in where you don't have anywhere where you can pull that additional area from.

So that's my request here this evening.

Um the other lots in this phase all meet the requirements for the zone.

It is just these seven lots, entirely due to this change with pioneer irrigation.

We we first, of course, went to Pioneer, requested their approval to reconsider, allow us to put the lot, and we we were told nope, this must be in a common lot, it is a new policy.

So I'm I'm here for any questions.

Council members, any questions of Wendy at the moment?

Wendy, I have a follow-up question.

So the overall square footage, I think was listed here in our packet, but right at the moment I'm not finding it, but it seemed like um the we we have a PUD for the subdivision, so the minimum square footage would be 6,800 square feet, and our lots are we have seven lots which are underneath that square footage.

We we still will meet your front and rear setbacks for that zone.

But the difference is just what a couple hundred square feet per lot.

Yes, it's it's minimal.

Yes.

That's what I'm trying to just have established on the record.

It is minimal, yes.

Okay, and so at this point, we'll uh thank you very much.

And staff has been great to work with.

They actually recommended we apply for this variance when I was trying to figure out how we were gonna get our this last phase of the subject to work.

So they've been very helpful.

Okay, thank you.

So question for legal, sir.

Yes, sir.

When we do a modification like this for a variance issue like this, will we approve the initial diagram or plat?

Now this is now there's another issue that has like this one's come up.

Is this the right direction for us to modify that document to allow the variance?

Council President.

It's a good question, but it's a hard question to answer.

Yeah, it's what I figured.

Yeah, um, that really is a policy call for you, and um staff will be presenting some of the more technical analysis for that variance is really are a tool that legislatures given the city council for scenarios that may be unforeseen, they may be obscure or unusual.

Um, it is a quasi-judicial hearing, so what that means is there's a little more weight given to each factor here.

Staff is gonna go through that here in a in a good order, uh, but it's a good question, but more policy uh point.

I think you've raised here.

We have the authority to do that.

I get that.

Yeah, yeah.

Want to make sure that this is the right alternative for us.

Yeah, okay.

Good question.

Thank you.

Okay.

Candace.

Good evening, council president and council.

My name is Candace Fry, Associate Planner for the City of Napa.

The request before you this evening is a variance of NAMPA City Code 10 8 5.b and 10 26-4 BNC, requiring a minimum lot size of 8,500 square feet in an RS 8.5 zoning district in the Cherry Grove subdivision.

The original concept instead of using the pioneer irrigation easement, a portion of the property, the applicant is splitting off the easement as a separate lot, creating seven substandard size lots on the eastern side of the development.

Okay.

The property is currently in NAPA City Lits and is zoned RS 8.5, single family residential.

The surrounding zoning to the north is Canyon County.

To the west is RS 8.5, single family residential.

The previous phases of Cherry Grove.

To the east is Canyon County.

To the south is Canyon County.

And the comprehensive plan designates this area as medium density residential.

The variance is requested to allow seven substandard sized residential lots in Cherry Grove number six.

Per the approved plan unit development, Cherry Grove requires a minimum lot size of 6800 square feet.

There are seven lots that are under the 6800 square feet requirement and are included in this variance.

And they are highlighted here for reference.

The lot sizes proposed will range in size from 6,263 square feet to 6,533 square feet.

The reason for the request is because Pioneer Irrigation has recently changed their policy regarding irrigation easements in residential lots, and irrigation easements must be included in a separate common lot.

Regardless of this requirement, the land area that was originally designed and approved with the preliminary plot is the same, and it won't be encompassed by each lot.

The planned unit development was approved in June of 2022.

Previous phases of the subdivision have already established the roadway alignments for this phase, making a redesign virtually impossible.

Aside from the lot size of these seven lots, all other bulk standards have been met.

Also included on this slide are the minimum and maximum lot sizes in the RS 8.5 zone.

Here are the applicable regulations for the variance chapter.

The variance criteria is shown on the next slide.

Shown on this slide is the variance criteria for a variance from 1024-2.

For correspondence, there were no comments that had been received related to this application.

Findings here are the findings for the variants, and there are some facts that are highlighted for you here on the screen, but they are also listed in the staff report.

Weighing the requirements of NAMPA City Code in combination with the facts listed in the staff report and a lack of agency comments, the proposed project meets all of the requirements for the requested variants.

The new policy by the irrigation district creates property limitations that do not apply generally to other properties within the area.

Literal interpretation of the code would require that the applicant slash owner redesign a subdivision layout that has already been established by the preliminary plat and roadway alignments in previous phases.

There are extraordinary site characteristics applicable to the property involved, which do not generally apply to the other properties classified in the same zoning district because of the location of the 5.5 lateral and the new policies from Pioneer Irrigation District.

The granting of the variants will not constitute a grant of special privilege inconsistent with the limitations on other properties classified in the same zoning district because it is zoned RS 8.5 and it has an approved PUD for smaller lot sizes, and the land area is still the same.

It just isn't included in the individual parcels.

This project will not be detrimental to the public health, safety, or welfare to properties or improvements in the vicinity because it is an approved subdivision layout and meets all other code requirements for design and construction.

Here are the potential conditions of approval approval.

Council may add any if they would like.

Yes, it is.

Very good.

Thank you.

Council, uh, we're gonna have public hearing, and then we'll see if there's any questions.

Is somebody signed up?

No, Mr.

Chair.

We have nobody signed up to comment on this.

Is anybody here who would like to comment?

Seeing none we'll uh ask if the applicant wants to make any closing remarks.

Um councilman, we we if you have any reservations, please let me know.

Um, we we would like to request this variance.

We we basically we would end up losing a residential lot um without the variance, which there is a lot of cost associated with that after you've made these improvements and put in roadways and utilities.

Um it's it's an ask that we need to make this evening.

So thank you very much.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you, Wendy.

Call for a motion to close public hearing.

So moved.

Second.

So the motion and a second for closing the public hearing.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any council discussion?

President.

I move to recommend approval of this project as stated on the screen.

Is there a second?

We have a motion and a second to approve the variance as presented.

Any other discussion?

Clerk will call the role.

Yes, Rodriguez, yes, Scog Reynolds.

All in favor, motion carries.

Wendy, thank you.

Our next hearing uh this evening is uh an annexation and zoning to RS4 and for Oaks Residential Zoning District Potential Development Agreement, Plan Unit Development and Subdivision.

Preliminary plat approval for Oaks Landing addressed as 2815 and 2724 North Middleton Road for trilogy development representing open door rentals and endurance holdings.

Original concept, 85 single family detached dwelling units and 10 common lots.

We're there.

Ready.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Um Council President Bills, members of the council, hello and good evening.

For the record, my name is Sabrina Durchy, and I'm here on behalf of the applicant.

My business address is 5179 South Boven Avenue, Boise, Idaho, 83716.

And this evening I have the honor and privilege to presenting to you our application for Oaks Landing Subdivision.

So first, I'd like to welcome you to Oaks Landing.

Oaks Landing is envisioned at a as a welcoming, vibrant community, thoughtfully designed as a charming infill, neighborhood nestled within a tree-lined setting.

With comfort, connection, and character at the forefront, this community blends timeless architectural detail with modern livability.

To create a place that feels both inviting and enduring.

What you're seeing here is our primary entry monumentation.

This feature is located at the corner of Hunt and Middleton.

This monumentation has been intentionally designed to create a strong sense of arrival, framed with layered landscaping, natural materials, and a cohesive design that reflects the overall character of our neighborhood.

Now I'd like to welcome you into our main entrance from Middleton Road into Oaks Landing.

You'll notice the streetscape is designed to feel intimate and welcoming with tree-line corridors, thoughtful plantings, and homes oriented toward the street to create a strong neighborhood presence.

A key element here is how the landscaping and the pathway system work together, softening the edges, providing visual interest, and creating a more pedestrian-friendly environment throughout the site.

And this isn't just about individual lots, it's about how the neighborhood feels as a whole, comfortable, connected, and thoughtfully designed for everyday living.

Now, taking a look at the overall development, the site has been intentionally designed to provide an appropriate transition within the area.

This area in NAMP is very unique and is really a melting pot of multiple uses and densities.

The property's enclave between established older county parcels to the west and south, and is just feet away from the more intense commercial corridor along the Nampa Callwell Boulevard, which is such a vast diversity of land uses.

The current comp plan designates the site as commercial.

However, given its mid-block location and existing residentials surrounding the property, we believe a medium density residential residential designation is a more appropriate fit for the site.

To support that, we're requesting to stretch the medium density residential designation to this property to create a necessary land use transition.

This approach keeps the commercial intensity focused along the major corridors while allowing Oaks Landing to function as a compatible, well planned residential buffer within this involving area.

So to better understand how the site fits within the area, it's best to take a closer look at the surrounding context in detail.

To the north, we have unincorporated county parcels, along with a mix of established commercial and service uses uses, including BW records services, Evergreen Mobile Home Park, Boulevard Plaza, Dennis Dillon Auto, and Jackson's Gas Station.

To the east are additional unincorporated county parcels transition into a strong commercial corridor along Caldwell Boulevard, including uses such as College of Western Idaho and other established businesses.

To the southeast, the areas characterized by industrial commercial uses, including Republic Service Recycling, West Valley Baptist Church, Eagle Transfer Movers, and then directly south, we have a mix of unincorporated parcels and established commercial and residential uses, including the Logan Apartments, Maverick, Burger King, Dutch Bros, Carcher Acres subdivision, which was originally platted in 1970.

West directly is established single family residential neighborhoods, including Mid Bay Park, addition platted in 1965, and Moss Point platted in 2004.

All of this demonstrates that Oaks Landing is thoughtfully positioned to serve as a natural transition between the surrounding commercial, industrial, and established residential uses, creating a compatible and balanced development for this area.

Looking at the overall context of the site, you can really see why I'm described this area as a melting pot of uses.

And that is again what is makes it unique.

When you take a step back and evaluate the full context, we believe the R4 zoning designation provides the right balance, bridging the more intense commercial uses to the east to the lower density residential to the west and south.

And when you look at compatibility, this isn't defined by density alone.

It's defined by use, design, and how a project transitions into the surroundings.

Oaks Landing is a residential use and through thoughtful site design, buffering, and product mix, it creates a natural and respective transition between these different land uses and patterns.

The project will be constructed in two phases, or perhaps one with timing dependent on market conditions, preliminary estimates estimate phase one to be completed in 2028.

In response to Valley View's letter, the slide shows that near Highway 2026, CBH Homes has entered into a memorandum of understanding with the Valley View School District to donate approximately 12.40 acres for a future elementary school.

This commitment demonstrates the applicant's proactive response to the district's needs and long-term investment for serving future students in this area.

This commitment is valued at 2,294,000.

We understand and are sensitive to the council's concern that development must pay for itself.

Based on the analysis of current building permit impact fees and considering our proposed 84 residential homes, the estimated total impact fees generated by the project will be 1,169,000.

I held a neighborhood meeting on November 20th last year, and it was well attended.

For those that couldn't make it, I met them separately, including a meeting at Carol Meek's house in her kitchen, and have had several follow-up conversations with the surrounding neighbors since.

A big takeaway was that the discussions of traffic, and many of the neighbors who opposed the Logan Apartments project down the street.

So there's some around the topic of traffic and development that they all have.

So taking the neighbors' concerns to heart and genuinely trying to be part of the solution rather than aggravate the issue, we're proposing the following improvements.

Item one is a right turn lane into the development from Middleton Road.

Item two is an additional right turn lane from Middleton Road onto Hunt Avenue.

Item three is a dedicated dedication of right-of-way to accommodate a future left lane from Hunt onto Middleton Road, and item four is a right turn lane from Hunt onto Middleton Road.

In addition to what is not shown on the slide, we'll also be coordinating with the city of Nampa on the following installation of do not block signage along Middleton Road and pavement striping along Middleton to clearly designate do not block areas.

We feel that these improvements will make a significant impact to the traffic concerns that the neighbors have for this area.

Now I'd like to walk you through the homes within Oaks Landing.

The community will be offering two housing types, providing a range of floor plans and price points to meet a variety of housing needs.

What you're seeing here on this slide is our traditional single-family homes.

These homes are designed with comfort and functionality in mind, featuring open concept layouts, spacious kitchens, and ample backyard space for families to enjoy.

We always strive to provide housing diversity in every community we design.

What you're seeing on the slide is our bungalow product.

These homes are more compact in design with alley-loaded garages, which allows the front elevation to become the focal point.

With this product, we're requesting some reductions in our setbacks and lot sizes, triggering our request for a PUD.

This product not only adds character to the neighborhood, but also provides a more attainable price point with homes anticipated to start at $380,000.

Additional overflow parking has been incorporated within Oaks Landing to accommodate special events and peak parking demand.

As shown in this slide, two strategically located tandem parking pads are distributed adjacent to our bungalow product.

Usable open space is a top priority, forming the foundation for our community's pathways, amenities, and overall connectivity.

Within Oaks Landing, we have 2.35 acres of qualified open space at 15.25%.

And overall, the site has a total of three acres of landscaping for a grand total of 19.9%.

Pathway and walk connectivity and walkability is also a priority within Oaks Landing as seen in our pathway exhibit.

Red depicts our community sidewalks.

Orange depicts our six-foot micro pathways that fan out through out the site for a total of 1,763 linear feet.

And then blue depicts our 10-foot sidewalk along Middleton Road.

So as you enter the community and move along the main drive to your right on the north side, you'll come to our first amenity area.

This is the community dog park designed as a dedicated space for residents and their pets to gather and enjoy.

The location was intentionally selected to provide a sense of separation from the main residential areas, helping to minimize noise while still being easily accessible to the neighborhood.

Our next amenity is designed to be a central gathering area within the development, and this is tucked away in our northwest corner.

This area includes a multi-use open lawn, sport court, shaded pavilion, playlogs, and seating areas, all connected to an integrated pathway network, creating an active yet comfortable space for everyday use and community gatherings.

The central gathering area supports walkability, quality of design, and neighborhood livability consistent with the city of Nampa's long-term vision for quality development.

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Sorry, hold tight.

I'm almost done.

There we go.

And this slide shows a great perspective at the very edge of our open space.

This shows the beautiful flow of the pathways, amenities that residents will love to use.

And I do want to note that all of our amenities will be built within phase one.

And finally, the one amenity that I'm most excited about is our wooded area to the west of the site.

These are the existing trees that buffer the site from the west, and originally our design totally had them removed with the road.

But with some thoughtful input, we were able to redesign this area to make it a more passive with landscape seating areas, creating an inviting place to rest, gather, and enjoy the outdoors.

It also provides the ultimate mitigation to the county lots to the north with a wall of trees to help minimize our development's impact to them.

And then in summary, we feel that Oaks Landing is a thoughtfully planned infill community designed to provide a balanced blend of housing options, functional open space, and intentionally designed gathering areas.

We feel that the design for Oaks Landing provides thoughtful transition for the area and a fresh new energy and feel to this section of Middleton Road.

I'd like to thank staff for their time and assistance with the application.

We're in full agreement with the staff report, and I did receive unanimous appropriate recommendation of approval from your planning and zoning commission.

And with that, I would like to thank you for the pleasure of your time, your thoughtful consideration, and respectfully request approval of our applications this evening.

Thank you so much.

Sabrina, thank you.

So quick question.

Sure.

Your single family RS4.

Actually, I can wait and ask Christy.

Does the complan allow duplexes or apartments on this site?

Thank you.

So council, any questions for Sabrina?

Victor?

Sabrina.

Yes.

I see that this is a wonderful project.

But I have a couple of questions for you.

Absolutely, please.

How does this match the current residential area there?

And uh according to the north, uh they have three-quarter acre lots to the south, single family one-acre lots, and east three-quarter acre lots, and community business, and then to the west, there is single family one quarter lots.

And here you're you're you're trying to uh use an RS4 for the amount of uh density, you called it medium, I'm calling it high density.

Uh that's what RS4 is, but looking at the whole entire neighborhoods.

Do you know what the population is surrounding that area, including the new apartment complex just to the east?

Um Councilmember Bills, um, Councilmember Rodriguez.

Uh uh, you know, I don't, that's a great question.

Um, and that's kind of what I was talking about when we uh we take a step back and we look at the overall area, especially the intensity along Caldwell Boulevard and the apartments.

Where I was trying to find that great midpoint that really works with the transition of the area with the high uses, but also with the low density, and so we really feel like the R4 is right and appropriate for this location.

Follow up.

But maybe um Christy might have the density calcs for that area.

But the other thing is uh uh the uh I'm concerned with Middleton Road, and uh I know that the other subdivision, the apartment complex, is going to fix also part of that Middleton Road.

So and now you're turning, you're having a turn lane for Middleton Road and for uh what was the other I mean four turn lanes to enter in and out, but on 55 you can only go west.

You can't turn east, and on Middleton Road, if you can get into that, um I'm I'm looking for another alternative route.

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

And the only way that I see would be an easier route for you is one of your alternate routes is be through the east into that old subdivision or the where they where you're looking at one acre lots, and so and I don't remember the street names, but um that would cause an impact to those residences by the traffic.

So do you have uh do you have any ideas what you'll do to those or are you going to help one way or another with that?

Well, um council members, um, council president.

So that when I can go back to that slide.

So we weren't required to do a traffic impact study, and again, one of the things that the neighbors expressed a lot of concern was the intersection of Hunt and Middleton.

And so we're not required to do those turn lanes.

That's something that we thought how can we what can we do?

How can we help the community here?

And so those extra turn lanes, those again aren't required by the city, not by a traffic impact.

It's something that we're voluntarily wanting to do to help for the traffic concerns because it's hard because they're kind of sandwiched in between that light at Carcher and the light at Caldwell Boulevard, and we um completely understand that, and that's why it's so hard sometimes these info sites when you're surrounded by development and the traffic's already there.

How can we help the problem and not ascerrate it?

You know what I mean?

Um, and so those those two things with the left and right turn lane, um, as well as doing the do not block signage and striping, we feel and we had our traffic engineer, and they felt like that would help significantly.

And I think we did have been coordinating with um Daniel and staffed, and they agreed that that would be um helpful for um overall for the community.

And I'll get that slide up for you again.

Yeah, that's good because I wanted to see that.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

It's not as fast as I want it to be.

It's okay.

There it is.

Yeah.

I I'm I think you have a good ulterior route there.

And and I'm not considering I'm not questioning those routes, I'm just questioning the amount of traffic that's going to be consumed by the the roads, and the those roads are barely two vehicles can pass on them.

Yes, which is no parking on those roads now.

And in fact, they'll residents usually have 15 feet that they can park on the own side of the road.

So that's what I'm concerned about.

Are you concerned about Hunt Avenue?

Are you concerned about Middleton?

Both.

Okay.

And that's what so what's great is that we'll be providing extra additional right-of-way.

We'll providing the um the the expansion extension of the road, so they'll have that right turn lane onto Hunt, and then we'll be adding the curb gutter sidewalk that this area is really missing that needed infrastructure at the moment.

So that's what I'm concerned about because the the other apartment complex on the on the east also is doing the same thing you're doing.

So now we're gonna get a I don't I can't see what how you both are gonna line up or are you gonna be in accord with each other?

That's what I'm worried about.

I wouldn't think we would yeah, yeah.

Um, council president, um, council member Rodriguez.

That might be a better question for Daniel to answer.

I don't see that there would be any conflict.

Yeah, you'll I'll I'll ask him that.

Okay, yeah.

I just want to clear that up.

No, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Yes.

Other questions.

I'll be back up if we have more.

Thank you so much.

Christie, thank you.

Oh, thank you.

Um, Mr.

President and Council members.

My name is Christy Watkins.

I'm the principal planner for the city of Nampa.

The action requested from you this evening is for approval of annexation and zoning to RS4 with a PUD and preliminary plat for the Oaks Landing Subdivision.

Um, President Bills, you had asked about allowing duplexes or apartments in this zone.

Um they would have to get a conditional use permit to do duplexes, but that would be the highest they could go, and they'd have to go back through another public hearing process to do that.

They're not asking for that.

I understand they're not asking.

I was trying to just confirm what could be asked above more higher density than the RS4.

Yeah, so they could get a conditional use permit for duplexes, would have to go back through that public hearing process to do that.

Fourplexes or straight apartments, not allowed in this area.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

Okay, so the comprehensive plan future land use map states that this is a commercial designation with medium density residential surrounding it on the east, west, and south.

Um, they are proposing to stretch that medium density residential so that they don't have a huge pocket of commercial right there on Middleton Road.

Um, eight one five, North Middleton Road is located in the commercial designation.

2724, which is across Middleton Road, is located in the medium density residential designation.

Uh 2724 is not included in the plat.

The annexation of that property is intended to provide the path of annexation for this larger parcel that is proposed to be subdivided.

So the properties are enclaved.

Um, they are considered to be in fill.

To the north is Canyon County large lot single family lots, three quarters plus acres to the south, Canyon County subdivision, single family lots, one acre.

Um East Canyon County single family three-quarter uh plus acre lots and BC community business, and then to the west is a canyon county sub with quarter acre lots.

A traffic impact study is not required for this development due to its size.

Um they have been working with Daniel to come up with some solutions to um decrease the stacking that might be happening on Middleton Road currently, and that's the where those turn lanes will come in.

Um they are required to provide a 10-foot side path along Middleton Road, and on Hunt Avenue, they are required to do full widening on the north side adjacent to the property, including curb gutter sidewalk and pavement.

There are sewer water and pressurized irrigation utilities available to this project, and they will be required to construct those to and through the property.

So a PUD allows for a reduction in lot size by 20 percent.

Therefore, the lots within the RS RS4 zoning district with the approved PUD can range from 3200 square feet to 9,600 square feet.

The lot sizes shown on the plat range from 3,323 square feet to 5,287 square feet.

All of the lot width and depths proposed do meet city code as stated.

Um they will not be reduced through the PUD.

She already went through the qualified open space provisions.

So this is just a little bit of reference for you.

From the northern residential structures.

And to the other side of the 15.0 lateral irrigation ditch.

Then there is 154 feet to the closest residence from the property line of the subject property.

Each resident within this new subdivision will have a 15-foot rear yard minimum setback.

Although 15 feet is typically exceeded, they're usually closer to 20 to 30 feet.

Setbacks from the existing neighbors on the south range from 130 feet to 155 feet between the houses.

So there's a 25-foot wide common area lot that exists.

On the west, those distances range from 125 feet to 150 feet between houses.

There is a 55-foot wide common area lot with existing mature trees and a pathway.

A 15-foot rear yard setback that is typically exceeded.

The 30-foot wide Leta Drive on the other side of the tree line, and 20 to 45 feet from the edge of Leta Drive to the existing residences.

And then to the east, this ranges from 160 feet to 175 feet between the houses with a 25-foot wide landscape buffer, 15-foot rear yard setbacks, 100 feet wide right-of-way for Middleton Road, 20 to 25 feet from the edge of Middleton Road to the existing residences there.

So that's just a reference to show that there's a lot happening between the structures.

So correspondence that was received was regarding from the public high density traffic and incompatibility with surrounding residences.

GIS has requested a number of road changes.

The Forester has requested some replacement of tree species.

The Valley V School District does have some concerns about school capacity, which is in their memo attached to the staff report.26 additional officers and.13 additional support staff.

And the engineering department has issued their standard comments for traffic access utilities, drainage, and irrigation.

The fire department has stated that this development is located approximately 1.1 miles from fire station number four with an approximate response time of three minutes.

The impact fees that will be collected on this is 107,695 dollars from just this development for the fire department.

The subdivision will add approximately 241 residents to 85 residential lots with an increased personnel demand of potentially 0.24 firefighter positions.

So when we accept an application for annexation, we have state law that we have to determine if we can accept this application or not.

In this case, they have met all four of those criteria.

All the landowners have consented to this annexation.

The property is contiguous to the city limits.

The comprehensive plan includes this area within its area within our area of annexation, and the property is subject to the city's agreement with the highway district.

There are three criteria to be used when determining the zoning.

It has been determined that the request is in harmony with the comprehensive plan with the stretch of medium density residential.

The proposal would provide for uses that are deemed through the comprehensive plan to be compatible with adjoining residential properties.

The proposed zoning is in the interest of the public and reasonably necessary as the comprehensive plan defines compatibility as any properties that fall within the same land use designation.

It meets the density required through the comp plan and the development standards are compatible to each other and the city code, and they have provided a subdivision layout that meets city code.

So these are the recommended conditions of approval as stated in the staff report, and you are welcome to add any as you see fit.

And these are your potential motions, and I will stand for any questions.

Christy, thank you.

Council, any questions for Christy?

Questions, sir?

Yes, Councilman Rodriguez.

Okay.

Um is the following streets in the county, and will we be if they're in the county, will will the city of Nap to be annexing them?

Uh Linda, George, Carol, Hunt, and can't read the other avenue.

Um Councilman Bills, Councilman Rodriguez, Daniel Badger, City Engineer.

Um we will be annexing Hunt, um, and they will be having to pull some utilities down hunt to serve the development.

Um, the other um roads that you mentioned there are not proposed to be annexed at this point.

Okay, so second question is then um will the city have to pay for renovation or or fixing up this hunt street then um they will be bringing sewer and I believe pressurized irrigation down, and so um that will be handled during the design process for the final plat, on what portions of that will have to be rebuilt by the developer as they bring their utilities down.

Uh the each sewer typically runs down the center of the street, um, and so depending on the the depth and the trenches, um they may end up repaving the entire surface, or it may just be the center section.

Um just to we don't have specific designs on that yet.

That would come at the time of the final platform.

I have I have several questions.

All right, so um so the city of Napa will will have to fund repaving no the the developer will bring the utilities down and do the necessary um improvements to to hunt as they bring the utilities through.

All right.

Most of these residences are have their own sewer and water will they be affected.

Well and septic will we'll be a will we will we we will we be affecting their water systems and septic tank systems?

Um so the uh the proposed development is served by city pressurized irrigation, city domestic water, and city sewer.

Um, and so we would not be um we don't have any uh groundwater wells.

Um I think the closest groundwater we held well we have out there would be well nine, which is south of Carcher um between middle on Middleton between Carcher and Flamingo.

Um the this would not affect any additional drought drawdown that would would affect this area.

Um the only uh potential impact would just be from the change in the irrigation side of things, um, and that would likely only affect if a well were extremely shallow, which is not typical for domestic wells.

Yes, and and I don't know how they irrigate out there.

I would assume flood irritation.

I would assume flood irrigation and this they will the development will be required to propagate all flood irrigation through their site.

They've shown those things on their preliminary plat, and we'll do a final review on that with the final plan.

Okay, you said a big word, propagate.

What does that mean?

Um they will have to where the irrigation water comes into the property, they will have to take it all the way through and exit it at the same point it exits.

All right, thank you.

Daniel uh I have a follow-up, but other council questions.

So obviously the city, this is an enclave area, basically, that the city already engulfs the neighborhoods here.

Recently, I think our there is there's a narrow piece of property that was uh annexed and zoned RS6 to the Christie's showing that on the Carroll Street and George Street off of FAB, I think is how they say it.

Yes, I think so.

So that's a recent approval.

That is a recent annexation.

There was not a development approval or development proposal that came through with that, um, though there has been some interest.

Um we haven't had a we've had a pre-application meeting in the past, but that's been a couple years ago, uh, and we haven't seen anything come forward recently.

And we haven't seen anything come forward recently.

So that's been in for a little while.

Yeah.

The annexation was just finalized a few months ago, but that was due to the applicant taking their time on getting the right-of-way dedications done on Moss to the north.

Yes.

Okay.

I'll just try and so if anything, and so the county properties, the two subdivisions uh can adjacent are on individual well and septic, or is it central well with septic?

I believe it's on individual wells and septics.

Okay.

So similar to other areas, there's a point when city services may be needed.

Yes.

Um the when the applicant originally came in in our discussions with them, our preference was there are the two roads running north-south uh that bound the existing um development there to their west.

Uh we did request that they utilize and improve that roadway and they they provided a plan with that um subsequent to their uh meeting with the applicants.

Um they came back and said, you know, the applicants or the meeting with the neighborhood that they came back to us and said the neighborhood has really requested that we not do that.

We that we leave those trees, and so we work with them on an alternative layout, which is what's before you today that um provides for future connections to those roads as those become improved and potentially come into the city at some who knows when future date.

Um that that's where the current layout uh stemmed from was based on the existing residents' requests.

Thank you.

So at this time uh we're gonna move into the public testimony uh portion and shard.

Do we have people signed up?

Uh Mr.

Chair, we have three people have requested this to uh provide testimony.

Okay, quote.

And so there's a sign-up sheet uh that we it's already it's closed at this point.

That's been turned in to us, but at the end we allow for somebody who didn't sign up to still testify.

And uh so public testimony we'll call the first person.

You have three minutes.

We ask that you state your name and address when you come to the microphone.

Our first speaker is Cheryl Higley.

Good evening, President Bills and Council.

Please pull out the handouts that Shar um distributed.

Um my name is Cheryl Higley.

Excuse me, just a second, Cheryl.

Is that the handout that you were referencing earlier?

Maybe you can council president confirm with Ms.

Higley.

Is this uh a valley view letter for item six?

From the packet.

Up on the packet, okay.

This is I think page 48 or 49, I believe.

I have it on the bottom of the okay, perfect.

So that is in the packet.

The state statute is not that I have attached.

Yes, yeah.

Is that okay?

Well, did you want to make comment about that?

Um what I might recommend is um if a question does come up as Ms.

Higley or anyone um raises the points in here.

Um I'm happy to address any questions on this impact on school districts and um elaborate on the state code that hits on that point.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

I'm Cheryl Higley at 12441, South Abbott Downing Way.

And I'm very thankful that the applicant has not brought forth another apartment complex on that road.

Um, I'm sure the neighbors there are too.

Um couple of things that when I was looking at the packet, um the route to annexation just seems a little bit contrived with having the medium density residential and then the commercial.

Anyways, that just struck me when I looked at it.

But my main point that I wanted to come before you today is um that I love Idaho, but there's some things that I just do not understand, and one of them is the funding for schools, and or maybe I should say the lack, excuse me, the lack thereof, um, since there are no impact fees when building um takes place.

Um the existing residents do not approve bonds and levies to build new schools because they feel that growth should pay for itself.

Yet developments keep getting approved.

Joey Palmer's letter as assistant superintendent of Valley View School District District lists 19 approved or proposed developments that will impact their capacity and their school district's capacity, and the total number of dwelling units is six thousand eight hundred and fifty-five on the letter that was in your packet that um I provided you a copy of, so it'd be handy.

6,855.

That's a lot.

A lot of additional dwelling units and a lot of additional school children with a need for more schools.

And my question is: has any consideration been given to implementing an ordinance for mitigation fees for schools as is mentioned in Idaho's statute 67-6513 regarding subdivision ordinances.

Um I'm gonna read the section that I underlined.

Each such ordinance may provide for mitigation of the effects of subdivision development on the ability of political subdivisions of the state, including school districts, to deliver services without compromising quality of service delivery to current residents or imposing substantial additional costs upon current residents to accommodate the proposed subdivision.

I read that code.

I'm sure that legal council will interpret it, but um it looks to me like there can be mitigation fees charged for development in order to help cover the schools.

Um we can't just bury our head in the sand.

I know from conversations with former uh Mayor Hogebaum that this was something that he really wanted to take a look at and um consider.

So please take the impact of the on the schools and school children into consideration when making your decisions.

You have such tough decisions to make every time.

Oh, anyways, and I just want to say I pray for you all continually because you have so many decisions to make, and I just pray for wisdom and discernment for you, and that God will bless you for your service.

Thank you.

Cheryl, thank you.

It's been an ongoing deal.

I have helped uh pass uh at the time it was a large uh bond issue in the Meridian district to build Eagle Middle School and Eagle High School.

That goes back to uh the early mid-90s.

Um school funding has always been a complex issue, and the legislature and its wisdom uh has stayed away from uh impact fees for schools.

Um if you do the math, it would be almost impossible to figure out the charge to a residential lot for a future school site and or the actual building.

If you take Napa schools that did not pass a bond recently, uh been out a couple of years ago, they wanted a hundred million.

You took a hundred million and tried to divide it amongst a thousand lots and do that math.

Uh the impact fee is enormous, and uh and therefore it's also ambiguous.

It doesn't necessarily meet the statute of impact.

And uh it's been an ongoing deal since uh the mid-90s that I've known and been involved in it.

So short FYI.

I know this is off course a little bit, but wanted to respond to the information.

Next on the list for testimony, Mr.

Chair.

Our next speaker is Jay Cole.

Good evening, council members.

My name is Jay Cullab.

I live at 11161 Moss Lane, and that's uh the property on the north side there that's about two and a half acres.

Uh my concern um this evening, I've understood that the PUD um allows exemptions from the subdivision for a free lot compatibility requirements.

My concern is whether this level of departure from the surrounding neighborhood pattern is appropriate for this location.

I understand that the PUD allows for flexibility in design, but I would appreciate if the council would carefully consider whether the proposed lot sizes and overall layout are compatible with the existing character and development pattern of the surrounding area, which largely reflects RS6 style development.

While there is significant distance between my house and the future existing homes, this proposal could allow for a future house to be located approximately 15 feet from our livestock.

Additionally, I'm concerned about the subdivision outlet on the west side of the property that goes on to Laytaw Drive and what that interface will look like in practice.

My understanding is the public right-of-way there is only about 30 feet.

Currently not actually maintained by the county while it is in their purview, is my understanding.

Thank you.

Next, Mr.

Chair, our next speaker is Ray Valdez.

My name's Ray Valdez.

I live in 11183 West Hunt Avenue.

Anyway, like I mentioned last time I was here.

Between 394 and 706 rentals in Napa.

There's approximately 39,100 to 41,500 homeowners in Napa.

But according to U.S.

censors, there's uh 58,700 uh total.

Uh there's between 1,000 to 1,200 homes for sale in Napa.

I think we should be starting to fill these things first instead of putting houses where they don't belong.

Uh we need to fill up the 1,200 homes that are empty.

We need to fill up the 706 apartments that are empty.

We don't have to continue building and building and building because once we continue building and building and building, what's going to happen?

Your property, my property is going to drop in price in value.

It's not going to go up, it's going to go down.

And that's being uh uh looked at like in Arizona, for instance.

Those houses are being dropping like a rock.

If 41,500 homes uh got received a tax uh credit of 200 because the properties went down, it would be 8,300,000 lost.

But according to the U.S.

census, if the 58,700 homes are actually here in Napa, then that would be a drop of 11,000 11,740,000.

And it would take 40 years to recoup that money that has been lost uh because of we have overbuilt.

We don't need all them houses on Hunt Avenue.

What we need is probably some commercial property there.

Uh maybe like what they're doing across the street from uh from the Maverick.

You got Dutch Brothers, you got uh uh Burger King and uh a place where you change oil.

But we need that instead of all these houses that are keep building and building and building.

And what's gonna happen?

Your property is gonna drop, drop, drop.

And then all of a sudden, you're gonna go to the tax man, and you're gonna ask him, give me a break on my taxes, because my house isn't worth 600,000 no more.

It's only worth 500,000.

So let's fill up these apartments first.

There's a face fate landing.

There's 400 units.

The Jackson, there's 400 units.

Prime Hearst, there's four 84 townhouses.

Uh uh Carway, there my time up, got 32 seconds.

52 units.

Logan, which is just built right behind the Maverick.

There's 244 units.

And these apartments are not even filled.

For instance, the yoke the Logan is only filled 20 percent.

Where I put all that stress on Middleton Road when it's already stressed out with all that traffic that's there right now.

Let's quit this quit uh building and let's think about that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any others signed up.

We don't have anybody else signed up.

However, if you have uh somebody who would like to still testify, you you're welcome to come forward when you come forward.

You need to state your name and your address, and if there's multiple, you just stage a little bit of a line.

Uh so the person at the podium and then somebody at the chair.

So I'm Chip Miller, and I live at 11087 West Hunt Avenue.

Um I was just wondering which one of us gets the privilege of having that street coming straight into our bedroom window and seeing the lights.

We also uh have grandchildren that live there where they're putting that on.

And uh I appreciate Mr.

Rodriguez.

I really appreciate your insight.

Uh I brought that same thing up and it was just squashed, but uh the size of those houses going in there, I laid carpet, and uh, you know, it's just way too compact and compressed in there.

It doesn't fit with all of us there, and uh it really hurts my heart just retiring and having lived there 28 years, and I'm gonna have not only 300 apartments over on one side, but I'm gonna have 85 houses on 15 acres when we uh we have two teens going to Valley View and I would hate for them to have to change schools, it's gonna be a major impact.

Right now, we see at five o'clock, don't try to get on Middleton Road at uh at any given time you'll hear the drag race down Hunt Avenue, and a boy just rolled his car uh right in front of Ray's house because uh he was speeding down the road and went right into the trees.

And uh if they would have built the exits over where the trees were uh that they so eloquently decided to leave there, uh they're Russian olive, they're not anything in you know okay.

But uh I just want to say that I'm really uh distraught with the amount that they're putting in.

Uh I'm not one to say don't do anything with your property, but I am saying it really hurts my heart to see that kind of compact area where you can't even mow your own lawn on the side because they're so packed in there.

We really need to look at how many they're putting in there.

The man at the other one when we were there, he said, well, it just doesn't compute for financial, you know, being able to make the money.

We can't give two million to this and a million to that, but we can say that we've lived there a long time and we've supported them in a many, many ways, and it just want to know that we can finish out our days in a place that we found to be very appealing, and uh hope that they would consider that they are not a part, and they are not conducive to the area there as many as they're putting in there.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Oh, that's not mine.

Is there anybody else who would like to testify?

My name is Arden Schmidt, and I live at 11353 West Zachary Avenue in Moss Lane, just um to the west of that.

And in I've never been to a meeting here, so forgive me if I do something wrong, but um for them not to um involve the traffic in there.

I mean, it is absolutely horrible.

Um thank god I'm retired because I don't have to go out at you know eight in the morning or at five, but it is you cannot get on Middleton Road, and they've closed Middleton Road from Carter to Flamingo, so you can't go that way.

They have Midway Road, they just now open it up.

That's been closed, and you have all this traffic, you have to go around all this construction, and Middleton Road, if if I understand right, they're going to try and make that all a four-lane, correct?

What does it do not the transportation department have any input in this kind of stuff?

And if it doesn't, why that you would think just common sense, you would need to look at the traffic.

Uh how are you gonna get in and out of there?

And also, um, there's a big tree there on Middleton Middleton Road.

It's huge, it's a beautiful tree.

You're not gonna tear that thing.

South of Moss Lane, they have high line wires there, and right under the High Line Wires, they planted about 20 trees.

Why would somebody with common sense do that?

Who get whose tax money gets to pay for cutting those trees and trimming those trees down like they did just down the street there, and they just butcher them, they look horrible.

And you guys go by Carter Road very often.

Have you been down there lately?

It's it's it's hell.

It is, and and we're just making it more and more complicated.

And I don't see what common sense would um let that's just complicated more.

Does common sense understand that?

Thank you.

Is there anybody else wishing to testify?

Thank you.

Um Margie Potter, 1811 North Cobbleway.

Uh I live in the north uh east section of this of Middleton and Carcher, behind like the cartridge of the Nazarene area.

Um so I drive this every day.

I have kids that live on Hawkins back there.

And uh I think I really like rear facing um units, and again, um like I always talk about I said I'll keep coming up here is about that missing middle that these are homes where people that live in apartments are can't move into those big houses that are sitting there that can't afford that.

Um they're gonna want to move into these starter homes, right?

And people will eventually move out of those and move up into the bigger ones, and people kind of move up progressively like that.

And if we don't have those, um, we're gonna keep having these problems of that lower end apartments and then the higher end.

We need we need what's in the middle.

Uh I always vote for the bonds in my area, even though I don't have children living at home because um, you know, I understand what the laws are in Idaho and that we can't consider those things, and it is really important.

Uh I I drive this every day, and it is horrible because of Carter being I mean Middleton being closed right now and all the work being done on Carter and over on Middleton, but that's gonna be fixed.

Um, I believe going down Middleton, if I'm right, something you could tell me later, if um where the new Burger King and the Dutch Roses, I think that's Letaw.

There's a right turn-in lane there that can go back in there, so that helps as well.

Um we keep complaining about this the infrastructure.

We got to get caught up, we gotta get caught up.

And I don't know where that money's coming from, you know, because we can barely barely have a budget, you know, that can fix the stuff that we need to.

So when you have a developer coming in that's willing to put in a really good product and make those uh um things that we need, like the turn lanes and widening and all that to um help relieve what's already there.

Uh I I am for that.

Because how else are we gonna get that going?

Um so I I think people when they come in and they're really I I mean this developer in particular, I think is very um considerate of all everybody's input, not all developers are, but um this one in particular has always taken into consideration everybody else's needs, and I think that they build a really good product, so thanks.

That's all I have for Margie.

Thank you.

Anyone else wishing to provide any public testimony on this issue?

Not seeing anybody coming forward.

We'll ask the applicant to come back and give a response.

Council members, um, thank you again for your time this evening.

And I would like to sincerely thank the neighbors for coming out and sharing their thoughts.

Um, I've been speaking with them since last November.

I understand their friends' frustration and fatigue that comes with change and change in this area.

Um that is exactly why we've worked really hard to bring forward um really thoughtful real solutions to you this evening.

First, we're providing the additional right-of-way along Hunt Avenue that I discussed with council member Rodriguez.

And this is to accommodate both the left and right turn lanes, and again, this is not a requirement for this development.

This is something we're proactively offering to help improve the traffic flow.

Second, we're committing to the striping um improvements of the do not block signage.

I think these are simple but practical things that will help immediately and that we can make a difference to the neighbors and can be easily coordinated during our um construction.

Third, um, it's been very intentional or designed to transition to the west.

Um it would have been easy to remove the row of mature trees, but we chose not to.

We had an arborist go out there, and she said the trees are extremely healthy and in good shape.

And so preserving those trees not only maintains the character of the area, it creates a meaningful buffer between our development and the existing county lots in many ways.

It's the best mitigation that we can provide.

So let's go through some of the neighbors' concerns as far as schools.

Um, you know, um, Caldwell is doing donation, volunteering donations, $500 a lot.

Um, but Mr.

Barton has donated a significant amount of land that's gonna um help this area for another elementary school that's valued over two million dollars.

That that's a significant contribution.

As far as um the PUD, we're not asking for the PUD.

The only area within the site is the one row of our bungalow homes.

Everything else is meeting the R4 standards.

That bungalow just kind of kee creates a little more impact, our compact product that we can help bring lower prices.

And unfortunately, that's kind of how it's tied to the to make it more affordable.

So um the bungalow products are at 380,000, and then our standard RS4 is at a little bit over 400,000, which really is unfortunately at this day and age, um, at a for an affordable price point for this area.

Um, as far as the rentals, I don't have information on Mr.

Valdez's um data and information.

I do know that what I've been told that um what analysts have been saying is that we're having a housing crisis, that there is a shortage of housing, and especially at an affordable price point.

Um as far as um the the traffic, again, we're helping mitigate, but I also we did some traffic counts on Hunt, our traffic engineer, um, just out of sheer curiosity.

And he explained to me that I go, um, I asked him, please rate those intersections.

What are we are is it an F?

Are we failing?

And he said the existing AM is at a level B, and at PM is it a level C.

So he saw a little traffic um pile up, like there was a few um as far as um stacking, there was a few cars that need to take a left on Middleton the road.

But other than that, he didn't see a huge um impact as far as numbers, which was kind of confusing because the neighbors are telling me that there's significant impact, there's a lot of traffic, and our traffic counts didn't show it.

So again, we're trying to help the situation.

I feel like those left and right turn lanes are gonna make a huge difference with the signage.

Let me just make sure I have oh, and then the the tree.

Oh, the tree that we there is a beautiful oak tree out front off of Middleton that myself and the landscape architect fell in love with when we went out there.

Unfortunately, that tree is in the right-of-way, and that is why we called it Oaks Landing in kind of an homage to the tree.

But um unfortunately, with the expansion of Middleton Road, the right-of-way that's needed, the tree is gonna have to be um removed.

So in closing, so I just want to keep in mind, I feel like I've dressed it, and if there's additional questions you have for me, please ask me um at the end.

But this project is a true infill development.

We're not extending infrastructure outward, we're building within an existing area, we're utilizing established services and contributing to the efficiency of the community as a whole.

Now, as far as the county lots, those were considered the standard for you 50 years ago.

It's very different from the reality of this area today.

At that time frame time frame, um, farmland was transitioning to county subdivisions, and now we're surrounded the site to the west and south, but over the decades, this area has experienced significant reinvestment and change with the Caldwell Boulevard today commercial intensity, multifamily development, and industrial uses nearly surround this in fill development.

Um so we feel that our application is a great midpoint, a great transition for what the future has for this area versus the past.

And with that, um I'll thank you again, Stan, for any questions, and um again um would love to have a approval for this evening.

Thank you.

Council, do you any questions for Sabrina?

Sabrina, thank you for the follow-up.

Okay, thank you.

So with that uh would stand for a motion to close the public hearing.

Move and second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Any council questions of staff or discussion?

Uh I have a question of staff, sir.

Councilman Rodriguez.

Daniel has we modified according to our transportation plan for Middleton Road to accept these new subdivisions or new traffic.

Middleton Road is on our impact fee corridor, so um improvements are anticipated for Middleton Road in this area.

We do not have those, they're not in the current five-year plan, but they are on the impact fee list, and so they would typically be within the next eight to ten years.

Um the improvements that are happening to the south on uh Middleton Road right now, uh, in addition to the improvements that are happening on Carcher, will uh should significantly improve the uh levels of service and the stacking conditions that are happening on that southbound leg of Middleton, which will help um mitigate some of the traffic concerns there at Hunt by reducing those stacking queue lengths.

Um that's one of the issues that um currently have is there that with the Kartcher Road improvements that that intersection is not functioning at full capacity until we we get that redone, uh which is um anticipated to be completed prior to them when they have said they would be looking at completing their first phase, as well as the improvements there to the south of Carcher on Middleton are are anticipated to be completed this um in the I want to say it's this summer July August time frame if I remember correctly, um, and that will allow for multiple lanes coming south, which can help reduce those queue lengths as we go north.

Follow up.

When you're when when the developer is talking about making turn lanes, uh in and we don't have a transportation plan that coincides with them, so uh you're gonna be directing them on what our plan is, right?

So the the city's master plan for arterial roadways, Middleton Road is an arterial uh ultimate build out of that roadway will be a five-lane facility, so two northbound, two southbound, and a center turn lane.

Um, and so we will coordinate in the design of this development to make sure that the improvements that they are putting in work with that ultimate plan for Middleton Road.

Um, so while we don't have specific designs for this um area, we do know what that roadway will look like in the future, and we can coordinate their their improvements with what the city will ultimately have for that roadway.

But when you hear that the developer wants to do an idea with their traffic uh you you're actually gonna say, hold on.

No, no.

Follow our our rules, right?

We we have we have looked at what they have proposed.

I've reviewed that with uh Matt Ricks, the traffic engineer, as well as my own experience.

What they are proposing is well within what we would like to see in that area to help mitigate uh traffic and and will function um well with what will ultimately happen with the roadway.

So no, what they've proposed to do um is well within what we would want to see.

Well, I that's it.

I just wanted to clear up that the I know the developers want to do this and do that on the streets, but but but I did want to make sure it fits within our absolutely.

We can support the improvements that they've proposed.

Okay, thank you.

Other questions.

Thank you, Daniel.

Council President, yes, I have a comment.

Um here lots of things about traffic today uh for every thing that we get in.

It doesn't matter where you go in the Treasury Valley, the traffic is bad.

Uh I don't think it's just isolated to NAMPA.

Um we hear a lot about uh protecting farm ground too, and um I'm all for that.

This in field project is a good way to do that, and um the density, if we if we don't keep those densities up there, then we get sprawl, and that's how we don't protect our farm ground.

So I think uh the density fits and the type of home fits for transitional housing from an apartment to uh 3,000 square foot house.

So there's something in the middle, and some people don't want a mower loan, so this fits there.

Um I was thinking that might be great, I wouldn't have to mow the lawn.

Um and then uh the um the infield projects um they're something that we've been looking at for a while for annexation, and um so I think that we need to keep that in mind.

The school district thing from the day one that I got on council, we were told that we were not to bring those school district um asks or needs into consideration for a project, and there's statute that follows that and legal can explain that more.

But uh the school boards are are elected separately than what city council is, and they uh as an elected body have a budget that they follow.

Um they have planning that they need to follow, and uh it's completely different from what the city does, and I know that um it's interesting the legislature has not taken that up, but uh the fact of the matter is they haven't, and uh it's not city council's purview to control the what the school has or doesn't have.

I've seen them do uh lots of instances where they try to hold uh uh per door fee over the developer's head.

I don't agree with that.

I think that this is very generous for this developer to give away two million dollars of the property for a school.

That's very forward-thinking, and um that's very Idahoan of this developer, so that's appreciated.

Council President, yes, if I may, if I can build on councilman Reynolds' comments uh when it comes to the school districts, it is an area that hits home to a lot of people, and it's good the level said what can and what can't be uh relied on.

Um recall that this is an annexation decision first and foremost tonight.

There's kind of a few layers here, right?

You have that legislative decision, maybe call it the threshold, you know, gatekeeping issue.

Um can it be annexed and that's a pretty open playbook as we've talked before in trainings.

Um obviously we can't rely on speculative information or evidence, can't be arbitrary or capricious, but if there is substantial evidence in the record, um that can be considered.

Uh the councilman Reynolds point, uh I think what he's getting at is a school district doesn't hold a veto veto card.

Um they are welcome to weigh in.

In fact, state statute uh requires that they receive notice.

Um a comprehensive plan, there's a required element for addressing school capacity, and that's actually in our adopted NAMPA comprehensive plan, anticipating the school capacities um in our area and where we would grow.

And so um, yes, school districts can uh can weigh in, but there is no veto card per se.

Um to my knowledge, or hasn't been any recommend request for uh the door or rooftop fee.

Um that's a matter we've addressed previously with um what I would call um unauthorized mitigation fees, um and some jurisdictions participate in that.

Um that's not one that I would advocate here, but for your decision tonight, the school district's letter um and the citation that was provided um in 6765 13.

Um it does allow you to consider um on the zoning piece, uh the mitigation effects that might be needed, but any fees can't be imposed.

I think we clarified that here tonight.

Those have to be uh impact fee eligible, and that's spelled out in the code there.

So just a just a help of reminder what where and what roles a school district's comments can play um in a decision like this tonight can be considered, but it's one of a multitude that you've um received tonight another evidence and testimony.

Thank you.

Council President, yes, I just wanted to um say a couple of things.

Um first of all, I want to say appreciate neighbors coming and testifying.

It's not easy to stand up and share what what's really bothering you, and and we do hear you.

Um I apologize for the apartments crowding all that area in there.

I personally don't think the department should be there, but I do see that this project um is well thought out, and I do appreciate that.

I appreciate that um you have taken into um consideration the roads as much as you can at this point.

And um, and you know, there's something that um councilman Reynolds said that um is it's true.

Our our area is so heavy with traffic, and I've lived in Nampa for almost 35 years, and so when you've lived here this long, it really overwhelms you because we're used to being able to get across town in 15-20 minutes, and now it's definitely 30 to 40 minutes at times, and so you know that's the headache, and that's the pain of the growing process that we're in.

Um I think that these homes, um, there was I was recently in some meetings, um, I think Margie was there too, that they talked about how we have plenty of rentals, and we have a good amount of um upper end homes, but this project right now is where we're missing.

We don't have enough starter homes, we don't have enough homes that um come in between for people to um build and or to buy and live in with their families.

And um, I personally have six adult children, and two of them are um blessed to own Cory Barton homes um because they fall into that area of price.

And so um, man, I go back and forth.

You know, I I want to say no more building, but at the same time, I believe that we do have to continue um and be good stewards of how we build and where we build, and I think this is a good project.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

President Beals, yes.

Okay, the way I see this is when you have a uh building or a development like this that it should coincide and should it should appear similar to the zoning that's next to it or the residence that's next to it.

When you have 85 homes stuck in between these acres, in between these wonderful large family lots, that doesn't conside coincide with me.

The thing that I worry about the most is number one is increase of city services to that area that our taxpayers will have to pay for.

The second thing is the public safety issue.

The density is an issue.

And whoever said that that Milton Road is a mess in the morning, I think you had other words for it, but you didn't say because of us.

And and and it is a mess.

And the amount of traffic between six and nine is terrible.

Well, guess what?

It's getting terrible all day long.

So you're waiting for the city of Nampa to come up with the solution to take care of Middleton Road for you, and and it sounds like we're we we will do that.

The density issue should is is a medium density, but the whole surrounding area makes it a high density.

And so one thing that I wish that the developers would understand is that they may be a medium density area, but the entire logistically neighbors should be low density.

That's what you folks have right now, as low density.

So I'm when I hear the the starter homes smaller homes, three hundred thousand to four hundred thousand.

Well, I remember that was the number just out of this world, so I'm not sure that competes with me as well.

But I uh because of this area right now, this area is so impacted with development.

Uh I I just can't I just can't uh approve this.

It's it doesn't feel right, doesn't look good, and it's and it does impact the our our community.

So I I won't be supporting this.

Thank you.

So a couple of comments.

Uh one is our ordinance uh the NAMPA ordinance since uh for the last seven years uh when the RS4 was implemented, uh encourages in fill, and this is an in-fill area, and it's purposeful in what it lays out and the reasons uh to uh make use of the infrastructure that is uh there from other developments and to not have the large lots as it was done in the county.

There's a time coming as we know from our engineering and others that uh a great deal of the county projects, whether individual wells or central systems, uh and septic will have uh challenges in uh years to come, maybe months to come for some.

And uh a project like this, and the one reason the RS4 was put together was to bring in field infrastructure in to be available to serve the um county projects that are going to reach the end of their life and on stuff, and we've seen and council has approved in the last uh couple of years of me being on council again, uh extending services to county lots because they cannot uh they their lot doesn't allow for a replacement uh drain field.

So I think this is this project is within what the city of Nampa has uh asked for, uh what the ordinances allow for, and I think the applicant has put together a uh layout that is uh conducive.

The turn lanes uh will assist people moving out of traffic and having a slow down speed up area.

That's the purpose of the turn lanes, and uh that's been included as I understand and look at the plat.

Therefore, I I see that uh while it's uncomfortable and understandable uh for the comments uh from the master planning point of view and having uh other city properties in near and basically touching uh accessible.

This application does make sense and does meet our ordinance with that.

I would uh stand for a motion uh council president, yes.

I have one more comment.

Um something else that um we've got to we talk about affordable housing all the time.

I have a 19-year-old son at home, he's graduated.

He wants to move out, and I hope he moves out someday, but he can't afford to move out, and uh he makes good money, he works hard.

I don't know when he'll be able to afford to buy a house.

That's scary.

Um but right now he can't even afford to rent one.

So saturation point is something that we talk about a lot.

We have uh real estate professionals come and talk to us at our workshops.

We're not at the saturation point when we get there, then we will get affordable housing.

That's how we do it.

We're certainly not going to subsidize housing from NAMPA.

We don't have that kind of money, and and I don't think this council would ever have a desire to do so if we did have the money, but um we need to get there, we need to watch out for our uh future homeowners and uh our youth that are graduating.

So I think that it's important to keep that in mind too.

The inventory that was spoken about it's got several factors that go go into it, and I would encourage you to come to one of our workshops when we talk about those kind of things because you can learn a lot there from these real estate professionals.

So with that, I would make a motion to approve the project to say on the screen with all conditions of approval and findings as stated in the staff report.

Do we have a motion?

Thank you.

We have a second, is there further discussion?

Clerk will call the roll.

Bills, yes, Rodriguez, no scog, yes, Reynolds, yes, three in favor, one opposed, motion carries.

Thank you.

Moving on to item six dash four.

Council President, can we do the short place?

Absolutely.

Thank you, Mr.

Rodriguez.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So what's just not districts?

No.

Okay, we're gonna call this meeting back to order.

Everybody's back here.

Okay.

Councilman Rodriguez.

Okay.

All right.

Our next item is uh item six-four, which is an annexation and zoning to IL Light Industrial Zoning District and Potential Development Agreement.

Addressed as 1722 1820 0 and 0 East Iowa Avenue for David Snow.

Original concept annexation to ensure regulatory land use consistency in order to continue to operate the Clearwater Landscape Construction Company.

I'm the representative.

Say again.

I'm the representative Carrie Smith, and I reside at 1774 One Linden Lane Caldwell, Idaho.

May I begin?

Yes.

Thank you, Chairman.

Um I am the representative for Clearwater Landscaping.

And as you stated, this is a request for annexation and a zone change to light industrial.

And on the screens in front of us, you can see I like to call this an infill project, and from the map where you're looking at, it doesn't quite look like an infill project, but if you zoom out, it is an infill project.

The city does surround most of this area.

There is a seed business to the north and residential uses, including rural residential uses to the east and to the south, and then more of like an agricultural rural setting directly to the west of the property.

This isn't a new business, and this isn't a request for speculative zoning.

This is a business that's celebrating their 25th anniversary this year in operation in the Canyon County.

They started their business in Caldwell in 2001.

They moved to NAMPA in 2006.

They've been in the current location for 12 years.

The current uses include storage of business vehicles and trailer parking with equipment.

They have a lot of plants and nursery materials, irrigation, landscape supplies.

It includes some mulch, soil, and aggregate.

As part of that.

And at the last planning and zoning commission meeting, we did have uh two neighbors that attended the meeting and spoke to us afterwards that were in support of the project, and they were happy to see it moving forward.

Um Mr.

Snow has been a very great neighbor to those neighbors.

Anytime one of the neighbors, um, especially the immediate neighbors has needed something, they've um got his phone number, and he's been able to help with any needs that they've had.

So in closing, I would respectfully ask for um your approval this evening and um for this long established business, and I would stand for questions.

Council, any questions for the applicant representative.

Oh, thank you.

Thank you.

Christy, you're up.

Okay, thank you.

President Bills and Council uh Christy Watkins, principal planner for the city of Nampa, as stated.

The request before you is for annexation and zoning to IL for the four parcels on Iowa Avenue.

Um in December of just this last year, a comprehensive plan map amendment was approved to change the designation from medium density residential to industrial to facilitate this particular annexation and to bring the seed factory into conformance.

So as she stated, the uh properties around it, some are residential, but the to the north is the light industrial property where the C company exists, and this would be compatible with that.

So the engineering department um has a couple of requirements for this.

They will be required to dedicate 40 feet along Iowa to complete that annexation.

A traffic impact study is not required due to the use and the amount of traffic that it's um generating now, and there are domestic water sewer and pressurized irrigation all in Iowa and available to the property should it be needed um okay.

Sorry.

So when accepting an annexation application, we have the four criteria in state code.

Um he has consented to the annexation of the property.

The property is contiguous to the city limits.

The comprehensive plan includes this area of annexation and the property does meet with the agreements between the city and the highway maintenance district for zoning.

There are three criteria that need to be found to be met to determine the zoning.

This project proposes a zone that is compatible with the adjoining districts.

This project proposes a use that is compatible with the adjoining uses, and the development of this property is in the interest of the public and reasonably necessary because it proposes the addition of an enclaved parcel into the city of NAMPO limits.

It has city services and utilities immediately available to it, and any new construction will bring improvements to the property per city code.

We'll also include design review elements when it is uh built upon.

The conditions of approval are as stated in your staff report, and these are the potential motions.

I'll stand for any questions.

For Christie, Christy, I have a question.

Could we have a uh annexation agreement that restricted the use to the landscape business and with that zoning designation IL, and that there would only be that single use that's being approved and not any other IL use?

So we have an IL use that has a whole list of things that are allowed under uh the IL designation.

So one day the landscape business decides to move is done.

And if we just zone to the IL, there's a whole lot of uses that could go there that could affect the residential neighborhoods that surround this property.

So can we restrict um President Bills?

Thank you for that question.

Um yes, absolutely.

We could have them enter into a development agreement that does exactly that and says upon redevelopment of the property they'd have to do a development agreement modification to come and tell you what it is they're planning to do.

If you just wanted to limit it to that one use, that is appropriate.

Okay, thank you.

Yep, you're welcome.

At this point, uh we would ask the for public testimony if uh there's anybody signed up.

No, Mr.

Chair.

Is there anybody here wishing to make comment on this application that did not sign up?

Seeing nobody come forward.

Um the applicant uh is there any further remarks?

Okay, the applicant says no.

Any further questions of staff stand for a motion to close public hearing?

Mr.

President.

Yes.

Um, real quick, I'm gonna ask a question of the applicant.

Okay.

Um are you uh is your client agreeable to having uh development agreement that states it's for a landscape business only thank you.

This is Kerry Smith for the record.

I did just ask him, he said he has no intent of moving from that location, and so um I don't he's not opposed to that condition.

Um if that's something that you would all like so it would be a fine condition.

I don't know if it's necessary, but um it would be fine.

Thank you.

Council President, I make a motion to close public hearing.

Second.

We have a motion and second to close public hearing.

All in favor say aye.

Okay.

So my thinking uh council is what I've already stated before, and uh because the bulk of this area is residential, uh the industrials that was zoned and annexed uh in December was a basically a pre-existing uh industrial park, and the residential came in around that existing industrial park, and it located there because at that time the railroad tracks still went south, and uh you're seeing that green line that's now a pathway, which was the Stottered uh rail.

So understandably for a business to want to uh continue there and be there legally, um I think it leaves a door way open for future uh to say light industrial.

So if you recall the discussions we had over light industrial and how did it go not heavy industrial for a concrete batch plant uh a year plus ago is this type of a deal.

It gets zoned for an IL for one use, and that use doesn't uh go forward, and one day somebody comes in and says, Well, it's IL and I read the zoning ordinance, and it gives me a host of opportunities of things I can do, including a concrete batch plant.

And my concern is if we do not restrict to the use that the applicant's asking for, we open ourselves one day for um that same issue to come about uh again, and so I feel like we need to annex this uh subject to a development agreement that has the restriction of the use.

It grants the zoning, but the zoning is subject to the one use.

Rodney, you disagree or have concerns?

I'm I'm sorry to interrupt there.

Um I just wanted to give you one other alternative approach.

Uh not to say that this approach couldn't work, I think it could.

Um the other approach could be um that you require they go through it like a conditional use permit to change any land use that is approved in the industrial zone uh in the I.

L zone, you could require that they go through a conditional use permit instead of uh the development agreement modification.

The and the reason I say that is just because the a DA modification is a little more tedious for staff.

Um it we have to modify it and then record it with the county, whereas a conditional use permit is just an internal city um uh action that you do.

So again, both are good options.

I just wanted to present that as another option that they were agreeable to so okay.

So I understand that, but just like the batch plant, it had the industrial zone and was slated for originally to be incubator uh steel buildings, and because it had the industrial zone, the the original owner decided not to build buildings and sold the property, and the other party looked at it and said, Well, City of Napa's ordinance gives me all these options, and one is a concrete batch plant.

And uh, because there was no restrictions on what could be done, so I look at this property.

This is sitting surrounded by residential, and somebody can come in, and if we just zone it, IL.

We got two columns of uses under IL that are available, and you're saying, well, let's just do uh a conditional use permit would have to come back.

We just open the door up and somebody's gonna argue and say that SIL zoning, then it's allowed.

And I'm looking at it saying the city's trying to uh accommodate the wishes of the property owner to continue to operate as business there, and that was the reason to be here in December, and now we're back here.

But I'm looking future forward.

What does it mean to Iowa?

And uh what does it mean to the residential neighborhoods?

Yeah.

Uh Mr.

Chair, you you do not have to um convince me.

I think you're you're totally within your rights to do that.

And I'm I was just offering another option.

I understand.

I'm just responding to your option.

Yeah.

Council President, maybe for Rodney to an IL zone, if I may ask real fast, Council President.

Um looking at the I guess land use table.

The staff feel comfortable with the limited number of conditional use eligible uses within an IL.

Is that a small scope of uses that's even potentially offered as a COP?

Yeah, there's there's not very many.

Uh our IL zone has a lot of land uses that can be are just permitted outright.

So to Councilman Bill's point, it is very, very flexible.

Um my thought was maybe maybe even those CUPs uh in the I.

Maybe it's just the permitted ones that still have to go through a conditional use permit.

But the approach that they're taking, I'm totally comfortable with.

Okay.

Yeah.

But that might help clarify.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Council President.

Yes.

The move to approve the project is stated on the screen with recommended conditions of approval and the proposed findings with a development agreement that states that this can be used for a landscape business only.

We have a motion and a second to grant the uh zoning to IL conditioned with a development agreement that specifies it's a landscape business only.

Any other use would require approval?

Would be how the development agreement would read.

So I'm understanding what your intent was.

That's correct.

Okay, you follow your second.

A standard DA modification under this course.

Yeah.

Okay.

Any further discussion.

We had a motion and a second, right?

Trying to do two things.

Um council.

Uh I mean, uh, clerk will call the roll.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Yes.

Uh yes, Reynolds, yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Well, you got what you want for the moment.

Okay.

Moving on to uh item seven action item 71 is a first reading of ordinance for zoning map amendment from RS6 single family residential to BC community business zoning district addressed as 1111th Avenue North for Raquel Pedraza.

And uh and we request to pass this under suspension of rules.

And once the city of Napa, Idaho, determining that a certain land commonly known as 1111 11th Avenue North, parcel number R12980100, located in the northwest one-fourth of section 23, Township 3 North, Range 2 West, Boise Meridian, totaling 0.46 acres more or less is currently zoned RS6 single family residential by Kenyon County and is contiguous to the limits of the City of Napa, Kenyon County, State of Idaho, and that said land should be rezoned BC community business zoning district on 0.46 acres more or less, declaring said lands by proper legal description as described below to be a part of the city of Napa.

Determine that said rezoning is in the best interest of the public and consistent with the comprehensive plan, directing the city engineer and the planning and zoning director to add said property to the official zoning maps of the city of Napa, and that designate said property as BC community business on the official zoning map and other area maps of the city, providing for conditions of approval, providing for recordation, providing for solar ability, providing effective date, repealing all ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith, and directing the city clerk to file a certified copy of the ordinance and the map of the area to be rezoned with the Canning County State of Idaho and the Idaho State Tax Commission for Son to Idaho Code Section 63-215.

Council President, I move that we pass this under suspension of rules.

Second.

All in favor, motion carries.

Next item that we have is an executive session.

It's an action item motion to adjourn into executive session pursuant to Idle Code 74-2061 B to consider the evaluation dismissal or disciplining of or to hear complaints or charges brought against a public officer, employees, staff member, or individual agent or public school student.

Uh, to consider evaluating certain city staff as part of personnel and organization restructuring.

Additionally, item J to consider labor contract matters authorized under section 74206A 1A and B, Idaho Code to evaluate contract negotiations with MPPA.

So moved.

So I have a motion and a second.

All in favor say aye.

No aye.

No, excuse me.

Excuse me, roll call.

God.

Yes.

Bills.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Reynolds.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

The next item we'll do after we're done with the executive session.

Which was the adjournment.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.