So it looks like it's here, but not on the screen.

It must have just happened when you have to pass.

I did.

There was only one pop on scene when I got there.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

So we just call it.

Good morning.

We appreciate uh you being here this morning.

And uh so we're going to uh call the meeting to order.

And uh if you would if you join me in standing for the invitation and the pledge of allegiance.

Lord, we're thankful for the day.

We're thankful for the wisdom that is provided as we come together as a team here at the city of Napa that you would continue to guide and direct these deliberations or continue to give us wisdom.

Servants of the citizens right by the money that are entrusted to us.

Thank you very much.

Roll call.

Scog.

Here.

Here.

Reynolds.

I'll give him a minute.

He is online.

Rodriguez.

Here.

Griffin.

Reynolds.

When we can we'll right now we're at five.

Yeah.

So potentially that that will come.

Um hold for a moment.

I wanted to acknowledge uh Councilman Griffin.

And say uh congratulations on uh obtaining the masters in uh accounting and tax and receiving that.

Also congratulations on the jurisdictorate and uh looking forward to forty days, sixty days, whatever it is that you're able to pass the bar.

And so I just think those are two accomplishments like many in the room who have engineering degrees and other degrees and certs and so forth.

That we value education and we value the uh coming forward and the information.

I mean, it's the learning curve you're on, we appreciate.

So I just wanted to make sure that's fighting.

Tom, you're up, thank you.

Uh Council President, Council, thank you.

Um especially on public works week.

This is public works week and we have a picnic at the park today.

If you're welcome to join us, it'd be great to have you there.

Um had a major twelve inch line irrigation break.

So they're home resting right now, but um it kind of goes leads into this presentation on the need for infrastructure.

Right.

We've got a lot of old infrastructure, and this just shows that it was uh the cause of the break.

Uh, we had a spike in one of our um stations, which caused the pressure in the line to get up to 100, but it should be okay if it because that's you should be able to get to 125 PSI pretty easily.

It's just a 50-year-old pipe, it just didn't make sense.

Yes, we couldn't hold up.

So council president, if I could real quick, yeah.

Well, in addition to the the staff working a 10 hour shift and then going back out and working late in the evening.

We had three real individuals, real good individuals there that were there real late too.

It was John Crystal and Clay Long.

I I had rolled in about 10 30, excited to see some election results and then heard.

So I instead I went out, saw them, and and Clay went and got the gentleman food and did a lot of good work there.

And Crystal and John were assessing the whole situation.

So there was a lot of the leadership oversight too there last night, and I think they should be shouted out as well.

Thank you for saying that.

Takes a team effort to do this.

So I yeah, thank you.

Yeah, thanks for noticing John.

Thank you.

Crystal, thank you.

Clay, appreciate stepping up and being there.

Yeah, so great.

Thank you very much.

Okay, so council, so order of business.

I'm gonna start out with a public works admin report.

GIS Craig Tarter will come up and talk about GIS.

Crystal will come and talk about transportation and all her services, and then I'll come back and close with the infrastructure report.

So a department overview for the public works admin, provide leadership and development of public works infrastructure for NAMPA's future, and uh provide professional service.

We've got a great team, a very dedicated group to make sure that we take care of things.

We get we got a very lean team, but they do a lot.

I'm very proud of them.

Um I'm gonna go quickly through these slides so I can give time to the team to for their presentations.

Um here's our org chart.

You've got it in your packet.

Um creating economic opportunity.

That's one of the things we try to do.

Customer satisfaction, uh, economic opportunity as far as public works and whole comes with a sewer infrastructure.

That's what sewer infrastructure and economics follow each other.

So we focus on that, and that's some of the things that we focused in on the Purdom project.

Um we pay attention to the budget, try to do as good as we can in that.

Heather's goal is to do uh one percent variance in city budget to actual financials, and then safety of our people, like we just talked about.

We're out there in difficult conditions.

We're trying to reduce injury claims, and so trying to get down that down, and then also uh road closures and um emergency repairs.

We're trying to reduce that.

That's one of our goals as well.

So recent achievements, we've done really good on grants on both water and transportation.

Over 30 million dollars used in 2026.

Uh, we're very proud of the FEMA remapping of Indian Creek.

So that's a great group team effort between Daniel and Public Works.

We've been working on that for over six years.

We got that done to benefit over 980 properties and save them some uh costs on floodplain insurance.

Um of the things we really focus on and admin as well as is educating people on water, especially with our reuse project.

It's we've done a ton of work to get to this point, but we're not done.

We're just constantly talking to people about reuse and what the safety of it and how important it is, and it's very important this year with a lack of water.

If we have 5,000 acre feet of water that we can put in our own system, that's a pretty big deal.

And so um, we've just recently we connected with over a thousand students, and uh, and that's a good thing to talk about reuse and all the water resources that we have.

And then we've we've done some career fairs as well.

So priorities again, one percent operational variants, uh these are the same goals, 15% customer service, and then uh maintain quarterly meetings with traffic impacts through NAMPA.

So you know, we we have our little we have our city, it's not a little city anymore, but we have highway districts, we have other cities adjacent to us, and we all have projects going at the same time.

So that's another one of our goals.

Um just to close out, we're not asking for any additional personnel and admin, and we didn't have any significant changes in our our budget from last year.

Any questions?

Any questions for some good.

Yes, sir.

Council President.

My name's Craig Tarter.

I'm the GIS manager for the GIS division of public works.

Um before I go further into my presentation, I wanted to give some quick highlights of our budget for this year.

Um, aside from some minor variants, uh our budget is relatively unchanged since last year.

Uh we're not seeking any new positions.

Uh with this in mind, my primary my presentation is primarily informational.

Uh as this is the first year the GIS has been operating on our own dedicated budget.

Prior to last year, GIS was organized underneath engineering.

I'll try to move quickly to leave time for everybody else, but please stop me if you have questions along the way.

GIS stands for geographic information system.

It's a system of record analysis and engagement.

GIS provides foundational data and services to the city staff and that the public can rely upon daily.

You can see our mission vision on the screen, but to sum it up, we strive to help the city be as accurate, efficient, and timely as possible.

This is also a good time to point out that the revenue for GIS comes through an allocation.

We track the services provided to each department and charge them accordingly.

The current allocation is set at 72% from public works, 22% from development services, and six percent from the general fund.

There are four main services GIS provides, addressing, data management, mapping, and GIS administration.

We're the addressing and street naming authority for our impact area, and you've likely seen some of the street naming ordinances come through council.

Um the bulk of our time is spent creating, updating, and managing data, though.

This is important because you can't create a map without data.

As our library of content continues to grow and we integrate with other systems, we're spending more time managing content, functionality upgrades, and patches, and just trying to keep the system running.

Like we see some of our content.

Uh excuse me, Craig.

Yes, quick question.

Quick question.

Could you put it back to the last slide, please?

So I noticed that you have a the software pilar next in Cortea IT five screen books.

Um what is the cost to each each of those apps that you're using?

And could you make it into one?

Councilman Rodriguez, that's a good question.

Um currently there's no cost for GIS to integrate with these systems.

It's a foundational resource for these systems to operate.

Um think of it like we're providing the data that Nextgen, Tyler, and all these other systems are using.

We provide some of the functionality to help with routing, um, asset information, things of that nature.

So while there are some opportunities to maybe consolidate some of that, um, that's something that we're uh we're not looking at right at this moment.

Would it be cost effective to do that?

There could be some cost savings, but that takes a larger discussion with some other departments on what workflows were uh looking to streamline and what the most appropriate action is to get there.

Okay, because I thought we were phasing out the Tyler with this.

This is uh this is the MUNIS portion of Tyler, the uh um EPNL, the permitting licensing, new the new code enforcement module, things like that.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, yeah, not the HR system.

What's that?

Not the HR version of Tiling.

Oh, okay.

Yes, I was gonna say that's a little different.

Yep.

Thank you.

So some of our most popular content are uh is our city council district viewer as well as the land use and public hearing map.

Um, however, our most popular resource is our open data site.

The site receives over 114 views per day with over 40,000 views per year.

Um the open data site allows the public to download and interact with some of our most popular data currently is boundary information that people are most interested in, city limits, council districts, things of that nature.

Um, planning and zoning data is also uh a hot top commodity as well.

We also help with uh a lot of internal dashboard creation to help with tracking assets, um operational workflows, things of that nature.

And then you've likely seen uh a number of story maps for high profile projects.

These story maps have been a great resource to help the city engage with the public and understand what's going on, what the project purpose is, things of that nature.

Here's our current org chart.

Uh we're working to fill a few vacancies, um, but there are no new positions this year.

Um I would like to take a quick moment to point out that the GIS staff are the ones that make all the cool things that we do possible.

GIS is merely a tool, it's the people behind it that actually use our creativity, the ingenuity to solve problems and come up with solutions to help the city be as efficient as possible.

Our current goals focus on increasing the citizen satisfaction for city services and sustaining excellence in city government by providing quick turnaround on reviews and timely access to GIS information.

We're on track to meet our goals this year.

Recently, we migrated all our web content to a newer framework that provides a more capable foundation for our content moving forward.

Um we're actively deploying a utility network for domestic and irrigation water that will provide some exciting capabilities for water staff in the field.

Um we've successfully integrated with the storm drain inspection software to help them keep track of their inspections.

Um with support from street staff, we're ready to deploy a new publicly available chip seal tracking app this year.

But most importantly, we supported daily operations throughout the city.

Our FY27 goals are unchanged from 26.

Our overall focus is on sustaining the current workflows in the services that we provide.

As I mentioned before, there is some minor variance in our budget, however, it's relatively unchanged from the previous year.

The one new item we are asking for this year is to fund our portion of the plotter replacement.

The development engineering and building mentioned earlier.

Uh the current plotter or the large format printer is 12 years old and it's at the end of useful life.

The pl the plotter is primarily used for printing plan sets, maps, um, and occasionally to help with communication uh material for open houses.

Yeah, I think we've that's in motion.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, our FY27 budget is relatively unchanged.

There will be some increasing increases to our software licensing in FY28.

Um we're also planning on a drone replacement in FY28.

Our current drone is nearing end of life.

GIS primarily uses the drone to capture new imagery for recent developments and capital projects.

The data captured by the drone helps city staff streamline workflows and provide quick access to real-time condition information.

Without the drone, staff would have to wait a year or more for updated regional imagery.

Access to timely and accurate data enables the city to maintain low lower overall cost by allowing staff to address issues more quickly, thereby minimizing unnecessary travel, reducing w wear and tear on equipment, and using less fuel.

Also, our drone has more technical requirements in the hobby or toy versions you can find at most retailers.

With that, yes.

I'll stand for any questions.

What is your budget?

What is our budget?

Yes.

Uh it's about 1.3 mil.

How much?

1.3.

And a lot of it comes from different within the departments, right?

Yes.

Yes, we're built upon an allocation.

How much do you how much do you give to our IT department?

Um, I don't have that number off the top of my head.

I can get that information for you.

Yeah, that's gonna be one for uh finance to help.

Oh, because of the allocation.

Right, I was gonna wonder about that.

Right.

So the 23,000 help us with that later.

Exactly.

A follow-up memo email.

Exactly.

Great.

Okay.

Yeah, and that if that is primarily just for hardware support, um, some of the services they provide for network, things of that nature.

No, I was gonna say if you have someone in-house that can do that and not have to go to IT.

Um that's what I'm looking at.

Um that's what I'm looking at, Councilman Rodriguez.

We do work closely with IT to collaborate on maximizing the limited resources both of us have to uh keep the systems up to date and functional.

So it's already in the making.

Okay, yeah.

No, no need to thank you.

Council President.

Yes.

Do you have in-house pilots for your drones, or do you hire outside uh pilots?

Council Woman Scog.

We have in-house pilots.

Uh I have two uh certified 107 pilots on my staff.

Final question for you, Craig.

Uh which will the directive will come soon, but um with the GIS system, you could put together a quadrant or multiple maps of that show all the enclave areas within the boundaries of city of Nampa.

Council President Bills, yes, we can.

We can look at uh the different um parcel information and look at who's enclaved, who's within cities uh within city limits, um, as well as look at uh pending or future uh land use actions that may be on the docket, so we can help with um any analysis that needs to happen with that.

Good presentation.

Good morning, Crystal.

Good morning, Council President, Council members.

Uh for the record, Crystal Craig, Director of Transportation.

Um, I'm going to again try and keep us on track.

I've got four divisions to go through today.

Uh I ordered them in Crystal's version of order of complexity.

Um, so I'm gonna start easy and then we'll get progressively harder for the more complicated budgets.

Then I'll bring um our senior director of public works back up, Tom, to talk about the projects at the end of this.

So I'm gonna start out uh with our airports.

First, I want to give a huge shout out to Lindsay Johnson.

She's right back here.

She is our airport superintendent.

She is phenomenal, a huge phenomenal asset to the city, and I'm very, very happy to have her as part of our team.

Little bit of overview for the airport.

So NAMPA municipal airport is a general aviation airport that was established in 1928.

Uh the airport's a leading aviation resource in the Treasure Valley.

Just recently, I had a privilege of attending the airport Idaho Airport Managers Association uh conference, and I think NAMPA got four different shout-outs during that conference.

Um, so that was recognized throughout all of Idaho, and people are saying NAMPA is really leading the way in innovation and doing it right, and we've got such a strong team ahead of us.

Lindsay, we appreciate your efforts.

So thank you.

Um it encompasses 249 acres.

It's located what I'm gonna call Southeast Nampa, it's just south of Garrity, west of Happy Valley.

It's roughly this uh orange box around here.

We have 23 city-owned buildings, 145 private leases, we have a terminal building, um, a city-owned fuel island, a ton of infrastructure that I listed.

A lot of people don't realize it, but Idaho has 75 public use airports, um, and NAMPA along with 67 others are general aviation use.

Um, the NAMPA Municipal Airports airport generates 106 million dollars in total economic output to the state of Idaho that is published by ITD Aeronautics.

Again, little zoomed-in version of this.

Uh the yellow box is that 249 acres that I spoke about before on the west side of the airport, so the left side of the screen, I'm gonna call it west.

Uh, all of those red boxes are the city-owned hangars on the the east side, the green boxes are typically the um land leases, so the private owned hangars.

Um you can see we've got a little bit of room to develop on here, and I'm gonna touch about that a little bit later in the presentation.

Our current org chart, we have a lean but mighty airport division of four.

Um, airport superintendent, like I said, as well as an admin specialist, an ops lead, and an ops technician that do all of the maintenance on the airport.

I'd also like to give a huge thank you to these uh five individuals who volunteer their time and service to our airport and the entire aviation community.

Uh, this is our airport commission.

We've um they serve five year staggered terms.

Um, they give up their evenings once a month to come over and look at land lease and like language and policies, and it's uh it's it's a thinkless job sometimes.

So I really appreciate that they are here to give recommendations to the mayor and to the city council on the planning, development, operations, maintenance, and budgets of our airport.

Uh some of our FY26 goals.

We have always had the goals or our current over year year over year goal is to engage in the airport community at least 12 times.

We accomplish this by having our monthly commission meetings, attending airport partner public events, um, and then supporting our airport users with news updates that we do virtually, like as a newsletter.

Ex Listen City government.

Our goal is to increase our airport generated revenue by five percent annually.

Um we continue to work on that.

We don't always hit this goal every year, but it is a step in the right process to make our airport more self-sustaining, and then uh maintaining safe and healthy community, zero regulatory findings.

We do continual inspections on pavement fencing, weed condition, um, and the city-owned hangars to make sure we are in compliance with all of our regulations.

Some of our achievements this last year for revenue.

We brought on six new land leases, seven new land leases for new construction, and we had 35 city rental spaces filled.

We received two FAA grants, um, one for construction of some new taxi lanes, one for relocation of our AWAS equipment.

Um, and then we are in the process of rezoning and annexing some airport-owned property on the east side of the airport to get the comp plan updated as well as completing a return on investment for our city-owned hangars so that we can start doing some of the maintenance on those hangars and move forward with that.

Our priorities for 27 are very, very similar to our priorities for 26.

Uh, we want to continue working through that deferred maintenance list from that ROI that I talked about just a moment ago.

Um, we also again want to increase our annual budget or our airport generated revenue by five percent.

Um, we're looking at potential new development for the airport.

There's a long waiting list to get into our airport because it is just so darn good.

Um, and then replacing some of our aging equipment.

I think deferred maintenance is a uh holistic conversation that we're gonna have uh throughout all of my divisions.

Um, part of that is we're replacing uh one of the trucks that is end of life.

A couple of airport events in 27 that I want to specifically highlight for your guys' uh information.

We will send out calendar invites.

We'd love to see everybody there.

Uh the first one on the right is the annual uh war Warbird Roundup.

It is in August of 2027 this year.

This event originally was around 5,000 people, it's now doubled to 10,000 people, and it's spread over a two-day event.

It's amazing.

Um, they bring in a bunch of different warbirds from all over.

Um, there's a huge passion in aviation, and it really generates a lot of interest and revenue for the the airport.

Um also in 2027, this will be the first time it's ever happened, but the 99s are an annual air race classic.

They go, it's 60 teams that create a cross-country competition, and they have chosen NAMPA to be the terminus in 2027, uh, which is really really amazing.

It also aligns pretty closely.

Our 100-year anniversary is coming up next in 2028.

So we're really excited to host this huge event.

It should bring thousands of people to NAMPA using, you know, our local vendors and you know, filling up the hotels and just again creating that interest in the aviation industry.

So we're very excited that we were chosen for that.

A little bit about some of our city-owned buildings.

Our terminal is nearing or sure at end of life, so we have been evaluating the existing space and identifying the future needs.

We've been evaluating the cost of remodels, uh, remodeling it or new, and then identifying some form of ROI on what the future actions are going to be in conjunction with that.

We're also looking at our administrative office to make sure that it has the correct space needs and identifying the future needs for that.

Uh again, coming up in 2027.

I said one of our goals goals is to increase airport generated revenue by 5%.

This is one of the ways that we do that.

Um every year we increase our rental rates by at least the annual CPI.

What we're rejecting for 2027 for our land leases, which is those private owned hangars on our land, is to raise by the CPI per their agreement and their lease.

Um, this year is showing a 2.7% increase over the last five years.

We've ranged from 1.7 to about 8% for land leases, depending upon what the CPI is.

Uh, our proposed rental increase for our city-owned hangers is 4.9%.

So a question crystal um on the actual rental rates of the of the uh city owned hangars you have a waiting list right so we need to take the rental rate up a little further uh council president thank you for that recommendation um we do have a waiting list for the record it's around two to three years uh long for our city owned hangars um that 4.9 percent keeps us within line of everybody else so uh everybody else likely has similar waiting lists we do have an obligation for the FAA that we charge a reasonable rate that is similar to other markets um so while we do have some discretion on what that means we do need to make sure that we comply with whatever our rate increase um but if the will of council is to see a higher than 4.9 percent uh we staff is happy to do that under direction and we will take a look at that uh and potentially come back with a public hearing if it's over that five percent threshold well I look at it from the standpoint we need to remodel the administrative office uh possibly add on to it a little bit uh we need to be able to move forward on improvements to the terminal building so there's costs and expenses that we're expected to put out and do and at the same time we have full uh rentals uh as far as hangars are concerned and uh waiting lists that so from a market point of view and whether it's allowed by the constraints of FAA but if it is we need to be able to take our rates on up and generate some revenue to help offset the needs of the airport um that's just good operation in my mind and so if if we're not constrained or if or within the constraints as you just mentioned uh we need to do that forward in in my mind and certainly council can weigh in on that suggestion but I think we've been under the from a rate point of view I think we've been low and there may be others who are out there the same way but we have obligations and we're we're continuing to try to fund and I think we got to take some of that up in order to help accomplish what we need to get done.

Anyone else have comments or can we so do I know you first so is there any to expand to the administrative offices is there could you come in to go into the MAF building and rent this pace from them councilman Roderick.

Okay never mind okay on on the on the rental rates and themselves when we increase it by the 4.9% are we the highest in the valley or in the region in terms of rental rates after the fact or are we going to still be fourth or fifth in line in terms of rental rates council president council griff councilman griffin um it keeps us what I'm gonna say in line with market it's really hard to compare us to like Boise and Caldwell because not everybody owns city owned hangars not everybody has tea hangers not everybody has tie downs at the same rate so it's it's not an apples to apples and we charge different rates depending upon where they're parking their plane so to speak um so it keeps us in market to other airports of our size with similar amenities I I would concur with what councilman bills is stating I'd like the city of Napa to be on the higher tier of that sliding scale if you would uh if the if the wait list is two to three years long surely some people are going to fall off and surely that wait list will still be a year to two years long so I think it just we can't we've got to be able to create as much revenue for the city as we can especially for maybe all these folks live in Napa and that's good and well but I think there we have a a lot of resources that people have gotten a bargain rate on for a long time in multiple departments so I'd like to see that increased as well.

Thank you for that feedback we will come back to council at a later date in 27 when the budget is there with the increases recommended thank you budget summary on all of my budget summary on the operations I took out the staff costs so this is just like pure operational budget.

Some proposed budget notes, which may uh help a little bit on the airport generated revenues.

So the operations, salary benefits, expenses are all covered by the airport generated uh revenue.

So in essence, the airport is self-sustaining.

Where we get supplemental help from General Gov and other things are our capital expenditures.

So only 82,000 ish of uh the our capital expenditures are paid for by our airport generated revenues.

So while we are operationally self-sustaining, like we could potentially reduce the burden in that way.

The airport fund balance uh as of the beginning of the last fiscal year or the end of last fiscal year was just over three million.

750,000 of that was the general gun uh fund balance that's been set aside for the terminal.

So just wanted to share some of those numbers.

And you can kind of see the breakdown in our land leases uh versus our city rentals and what those come.

So our city rentals are already the big bulk of our revenue generated for the airport as compared to our land leases, which are those privately owned hangars.

So on this next wave of uh land lease, are we able to take those rates up to help cover our cost of improvements of putting in taxiways and so forth?

Kind of stair step that councilman bills, the land lease contracts say that we will increase them annually by the CPI.

So this next CPI increase is 2.7.

If we were gonna do something in addition to that, uh I think it would probably have to come.

I'd have to ask Lindsay to public hearing or be an amendment to their contracts.

Yeah, what I'm looking at is if we're gonna extend taxiways and create more sites, they'll build hangars.

It may be that we need to establish that under the current costs of putting in those improvements, and some of those sites may need to start at a step up from the existing, is what I'm suggesting.

You read my presentation.

Looks like you read my presentation.

Looking ahead, yes, we do see future developments in the next five years.

Uh, in that southwest corner, we see it a potential for four different land leases in that central area, at least ten, and on the east area at least ten uh ten as well.

Um, these will all be at the highest market rate that we're doing right now.

So all of those new contracts will be with the new current higher rate than the ones that they started with.

Excellent.

I like it.

With that, I will stand for questions on airport.

Council, any questions for Crystal at the moment?

Um, present council.

I um Crystal, I remember there was some uh hangars that needed to be torn down.

Has that happened?

Uh council president, councilwoman Scogg, it has not yet.

Um, we will be coming forward to council with the recommendation um and and the next steps to sell those those two city-owned hangars that are end of life and don't show a good ROI for even rehabbing.

All right, thank you.

We'll take official action soon.

Okay, but it has it's moving through the process.

Thank you.

All right, next, putting on my fleet hat for a moment.

Uh, would like to give a shout out to my superintendent here, Doug Adams.

He is also a phenomenal asset.

Um, when I first started uh here at the city almost five years ago, uh Doug operates at such a high level for superintendent.

A lot of people uh assumed he was a director.

So he is just that darn good, and I really appreciate him.

Doug, we do appreciate the efforts, and we know at times it's frustrating, but uh, you and your group, we confirming Crystal's comments.

So thank you.

Thank you for the love for my staff.

I'm pretty proud of them if you can't tell.

Uh fleet services.

We just won't go out and hug everybody.

So it's okay.

Doesn't mean I'm not thinking of it in spirit form, but you know.

Uh the fleet services maintain city assets efficiently and safely to ensure all city services meet the citizens' expectations.

The goal of fleet is really to lead the municipal fleet management and set the standard for um what others are measured against.

And I uh think we are absolutely doing that.

There are multiple different agencies that look to NAMPA to say what are we doing, how are we doing it?

Can you maintain our fleet?

We get requests all the time because our staff is so far and above the rest of everybody else, and um, it's it's because of the leadership and the hardworking individuals that are there.

Uh this is our current org chart.

We have 12 FTEs.

Uh in 2026, our goals were to maintain an average fleet of uh critical vehicle age of less than 10 years for light and medium duty vehicles, a preventative maintenance completion date of 75% earlier on time and have zero instances of emergency fuel below 50%.

Some of our achievements this last year, uh probably our biggest crowning jewel here with the help of the facilities department, they've been really phenomenal.

Is our fleet building finally?

It is at 75% design right now.

It's it's moving quickly to 100% design.

This new fleet building will take our our building to about 21,000 square feet plus an additional 2,000 met mezzanine on top of it.

It'll give us six heavy bays where we only currently have two.

It'll give us seven light duty bays where we currently only have five, plus a welding and fabrication bay.

So our guys are so sardined in that current building that they're at capacity and they're just tripping over each other.

So this new building is really gonna streamline and improve operations and give us some opportunities for insourcing.

We have two uh tanks, two five thousand gallon tanks, one for gasoline and one for diesel, as well as two 900 gallon diesel fuel trailers shown right here.

Uh are our priorities.

Uh first priority is to complete that fleet building.

Um, our team is very, very excited once they see dirt start turning over there.

Uh continue the inventory tracking and maybe integrate integrate a barcoding system for parts inventory.

Uh we talked about insourcing before.

Um that is for the new fleet building when we have additional capacity.

We could potentially hire some additional staff and fulfill some of the requests from the outside agencies for us to maintain their fleet as an opportunity for fleet to actually provide income to the city.

Um and then training, so begin some development of internal uh technician training programs as they get more and more complex.

Um we manage a very diverse fleet all the way down from a uh push mower, you know, and things like that up to you know a sweeper and like a large tractor trailer, um, as well as all of the fire trucks.

Fleet budget, no additional personnel here.

Um again, you can see my operations budget did not change very much, and we have no additional uh capital requests in 27.

So very varied level here.

With that, I'll stand for questions on fleet.

President Council, yes.

Um Chris, so I spoke with Doug last last week about the salaries of the mechanics, and I know there's quite a difference between the private versus or city versus the business side.

Is there an alternative for increased funding to that?

I don't know how that would work, but there's well on the fleet, the way the the fleet uh gets their funding is by charging for their services to each of the departments that have vehicles.

Um the only way for them to get more funding is to charge more for their repairs to the departments.

Um so it could it be done, yes.

Um it would have to be a discussion to see with Doug what that rate should be and what it could look like, but they don't have any other internal sources other than the charges they send out to and their biggest users are the of course police and parks, and so they would bear the brunt of anything like that.

Okay, so it would be kind of a catch-22 situation for an increase of salary, I guess, right?

Yes, correct yes, yeah.

That's thank you.

So there's there's a balance in what we would produce and what directors are doing for balancing out across the board.

So well, okay.

I have a follow-up then.

So what what what is it?

Is there a how many have we how many employees have we lost due to pay salary benefits?

Um council president, councilman Rodriguez, Doug can speak more to this, but um we don't have a huge turnover problem if I'm being honest in fleet.

Um I think that is because of the management style and how they work there.

They're really good, tight-knit crew.

Um, they're here to serve a community and they love that.

Doug is also an exceptional advocate for his employees and titling and um looking at internal equity where appropriate and where possible.

So he really advocates and we make intermediate um small adjustments throughout the year with the help of HR and Chris Awker to do some wage analysis.

So they're so their their funding is based on vehicles repairing and getting done.

And so uh and there's always an issue with that, I guess, right?

So it doesn't increase or lower.

Does it increase or decrease the amount of funding coming in based on the vehicles we need fixed?

I'm saying not 100% sure I understand the question.

Um the more the vehicles need fixed, the more money, more revenue.

The less vehicles need fixed, the less revenue.

Council president, counsel uh counselor, uh sorry, Doug Adams, uh fleet service superintendent.

Um the way we work is we have a fixed number of labor hours.

My technicians can fill eight hours a day.

It doesn't matter how many cars they do in that day.

Um, where the variable comes in as the parts that we charge out.

We have a markup matrix for parts.

So the variables is within parts.

So if somebody spends all day on the say a break job, well, they only build the eight hours, or if they do ten cars in that same day, they still only build eight hours because it's a real-time model.

Um, the only potential for additional income outside of the upward pressure on other divisions would be in sourcing from outside agencies.

Um currently we we in source the NAPA fire district.

Um we could in source from City of Meridian or City of Caldwell.

That would could potentially be um uh revenues outside of city funds that we could use for operational needs.

But do you but but do you have the person would you have the personnel to put a heavier heavier load on the currently today?

No, we we need to expand staff to do that.

Thank you.

Doug, thank you.

Moving on to traffic.

Uh again, huge shout out to my leaders here in the traffic division.

Traffic is different than any of the other divisions in in the fact that we've got a uh an engineering manager, Matt Ricks, um, on top of that.

Matt is like the signal whisperer for the state or for the city.

Uh he does such a phenomenal job of managing and like tweaking and understanding how adding one second of timing difference to this signal will affect this signal six blocks over.

Um, it takes a very special brain to be able to accomplish that, and and he absolutely has it.

Uh also co-managing here over here is is our superintendent of traffic, which is Ken Knott.

Ken's been with the department for 15, 20 years.

Um he's a huge, huge asset.

He manages manages a highly technical group of skilled people here with electricians as well as signs and striping.

Um, and I really appreciate all their dedication.

Well, we as those who drive on the traffic side, we appreciate the dedication as well.

Thank you.

So traffic is a very forward-facing or uh public facing uh division for us, both traffic and streets.

Uh they they tend to get interchanged, they are separate divisions.

Um streets maintains the roads, traffic maintains the things besides the road or beside the road, um, if you will.

Uh their mission statement is to provide a safe operation of the multimodal public transportation system to the general traveling public within and throughout our city.

Um our goal of improving movement in and through Nama is NAMPA is almost single-handedly done through this division right here.

They have the highest impact on it.

Uh some of the map assets that are managed, it's over 35 million dollars.

They have over 15,000 traffic signs, 10 of those signalized crosswalk systems that are PHBs, 78 signalized intersections, battery backups.

We have over a hundred rectangular rapid flashing beacons.

Those are the blinky lights at the crosswalks, um, sixty-three school zone flasher signs, almost 7,000 street lights, two 20 signal uh CCTV cameras, and then we also support the uh real-time crime center um with 150 of their cameras as well.

So they have a huge load for what they're doing with just a staff of 18 FTEs.

We do currently have two vacancies in this.

Um I stated before that this is a very technical and a very niche type of thing.

Um we have electricians that are highly competitive and sought after to get.

In fact, just last night we had two uh candidates or two of our staff just graduated CWI with their electrical license.

Uh so that that's a four-year endeavor for them to be able to do that.

So we're really really proud to be able to grow our people up and keep them interested in serving our community.

Some of the goals in FY26, we always have a zero-death goal here on the city roadway network currently.

Um we we report the the data a year behind because it takes some time to process it.

Um there were six fatalities in 2025.

One was an impaired driver related.

Um our goal is to upgrade two unimproved crosswalks annually.

We've met and exceeded that goal this year.

We have done three crosswalks uh or have on the docket to do three, one at Dewey and Maple, one at Lone Star in North Park, and then we were able to get some CDPG funding to do Roosevelt and Stanley Creek as well.

Um, and then improving movement in and through NAMPA, like I said before, uh, this division has the highest impact on the citywide goal.

We want to reduce travel time.

I I called it on a targeted public roadway by 10%.

I mean it's just the bigger roads.

Um Library Square is our goal for this one.

Not only is Matt making weekly signal timing during construction, but he has plans to completely redo the signal timing downtown around there after construction.

And then reducing travel time for one minor arterial by 10%.

The targeted roadways for this is 16th Avenue through 2nd and 3rd, as well as adding one additional intersection to our track TMC so we can continue growing that this year.

It was Idaho Center and Birch right by CWI.

Crystal real pause.

How are we doing library square redo?

Schedule wise, we're on track.

Yeah, Councilman Bills, this project is actually going very, very well.

I'm very impressed with how the contractor is doing it.

Very rarely have I driven by and not seen multiple crews working even in the rain.

It's a very public roadway, as you know.

Um I think that they're doing a good job of reaching out and and going to the local businesses to support them for lunch.

They're doing extra cleaning in front of the businesses to make sure that we're promoting people being able to get to them.

Um they run a tight ship and they're doing a really good job and they're on track.

Thank you.

Yep.

Want to give some citizen interactions.

I told you this is a very public facing division.

Um of the I'm gonna call them citizen comments that we get uh throughout the year.

About 36% of them are people are can concerned with congestion, specifically targeted at growth.

About 34% uh talk about the the signals not properly working or that the signal timing.

A lot of this is like detection issues, which we really appreciate.

The citizens letting us know sometimes a camera just needs tweaked a little bit or needs cleaned, um, or the glare sun glare will get it just right and it doesn't pick up cars.

Um but apparently a lot of people also can do Matt's job very, very well.

So we have some great candidates for employment for our two vacancies here in traffic, and then about 30% are street light, pedestrian push buttons, things like that, so like other things.

I appreciate that because I've been there.

We we listen and we respond to every single comment that we get.

We don't ignore them.

Uh we we follow back up with them, we close the loop on every single one.

Uh the traffic division has responded to 179 online traffic uh submittal forms, uh, 136 after hour on calls or call-outs, and 27 traffic accident claims.

Uh, I want to talk a little bit about the achievements for each of the different sections of traffic, starting with the signing section.

We've processed almost 12,000 utility line locates, um, 39 data collection studies.

So these are studies coming from citizens saying, like, hey, people are speeding in our neighborhood, uh, they're speeding on this road.

What can we do?

One of the first steps is to go out and verify that people are actually speeding.

Um, we have a huge project going through for a new trailhead at Matthew Peltzer, where we're doing a um working with um Mr.

Peltzer's wife to work on a trail signage for that.

Um, we've replaced the welcome to NAMPA signage and then installed three always stops.

The street light section has updated over almost 400 streetlights to LED features.

Um, they've completed all of their maintenance in the in the zones as well as completed the downtown NAMPA LED lighting conversion, which was a heavy, heavy lift, but really improved our downtown area.

And then they've continued to replace overhead street lighting and eight signalized intersections.

Our signal sides to go into more.

Oh, question.

No, I was just gonna say I appreciate that NAMPA's staying with more of a white white uh on the street light change outs versus the blue light.

Absolutely.

And uh I think that's a real positive.

So thank you.

Just to uh I was going to make a similar comment.

Those were faulty light bulbs, correct?

We didn't order purple lights, it's because the systems and were they able to warranty or replace those, or was that an expense to the city?

Yes, they warrantied them.

Because they truly are the worst.

So I appreciate the white whites as well.

White white is our standard.

Um, and any time uh something is out of warranty, we absolutely go back so we don't have to pay for it again.

Yep.

Uh on the signal side, so shifting over to the electronic side of it.

Um, we create or I talked about the new signal timing plans around library square, uh, those three intersections actually that we've added to the TMC.

I talked about Idaho Center Birch, Middleton and Caldwell, and then Franklin and ID4 have been added.

And then we updated two signalized intersections with new battery backup systems.

So for some reason the power goes out, these signals can still be operating.

It's one step towards emergency preparedness for the city.

Uh, our traffic management center.

We're currently staffing two days per per week.

We've been collecting data on travel time uh and corridors and vehicle delay at intersections that helps us target which ones we need to go back and re-re-time and um things like that, responding to events like interstate closures, emergency road closures, and then um, as well as events at CWI for signal timing plans.

And then uh the new innovation this year, which I'm very excited about is collecting some data on red light running.

Uh, what that looks like.

Here's an example intersection.

You can see the boxes around the vehicles where the cars are actually getting detected in the center right-ish side of this um picture.

You see those two circles.

Um, those are the actual um detections that will let us know when somebody goes over that and runs the red light.

We're able to take this data and provide a monthly report to our PD that says, like, hey, here's the number of cars and the time of day that we are seeing the highest amount of red light runners at these intersections so that they can do targeted enforcement throughout the city.

It's uh enabling them to use their resources highest bang for the buck so far.

I will say we're still massaging this data.

Um, sometimes it'll pick up somebody turning right on red as a red light runner, and so um, we're continually improving that as we're going along to say like which ones are actually doing it, what time of day is the most egregious.

Um, so if you're gonna run red lights in Nampa, don't do it at the same time as everyone else, because chances are higher that you know we're gonna be there knowing.

Council President, if I could just always give us a heads up if there's a special yeah, yeah.

Stay away from the Fort Idaho Center tonight at graduation.

Council President, if I could follow up just to confirm.

I I know that we know up here, but for the public's sake, we do not mail out tickets, we do not do any enforcement without an officer actually seeing the occurrence happen, and then they cite them there in that, correct?

Thank you for that clarification, Councilman Griffin.

You're 100% correct.

We do not have red light running cameras in that capacity.

This is detection-based for data so that we can better mobilize our forces.

People don't actually get tickets from our cameras like this.

But it shows the intersections that are acutely uh abused or problems, and that that's what's great that we're doing this.

Right.

Yeah.

Um, our traffic division has a really collaborative relationship with our PD through the TMC, through signals, through emergency management and closures and stuff like that.

So I really appreciate the the collaboration that happens between those two divisions.

Budget summary, uh, again, no personnel, you see a theme.

Um, I put our operations budget.

You can see a slight increase in there, um, but mostly we held it about the same, and then about 500 in capital requests this year.

That question, yes.

So I know that we're using Hawks, and some of those are uh federally funded, right?

Or they're funded by another source.

Uh when you and I were together touring district five, you showed me the other less cost for the traffic signal for pedestrians, like for example um uh Rosebud Elementary School crossing.

Are we able to use more of those to save well for safety, but to save cost to the city?

It should be transitioned to those.

Uh council president, councilman Rodriguez.

So we use so what you're referring to at Stanley Creek and Roosevelt is an RFB.

So in essence, it's the blinky light that somebody can come push the button and it just blinks.

It doesn't actually stop traffic.

Um the Hawk signals, um, like the one in front of IH2C.

There's one near on 12th by the Nampa High School.

Um we have a current grant with VRT to install one at around 16th and 6th.

Perfect.

No, um, so we don't get a lot of federal grants for those, but um when we put those in, it is based on uh metrics.

So the Hawks are for higher speed roads, uh wider roadways and things like that that that actually require somebody to stop traffic.

Um, similar to uh there's there's one on 11th, even that has a pedestrian refuge island where they will go to the center, push another button, and be able to go over type of thing.

Um the RFBs are for lower volume, lower speed, shorter crossing distance.

Um, so we utilize them where appropriate.

We do have a prioritized list uh the of all the intersections that need improved.

Um we look at that and then have a metric again based on how many we can do versus versus our budget.

So sometimes we will install one hawk, sometimes we will get to install three RRFBs.

It just depends where it is on the list.

Council President.

Okay, thank you.

She cracked the door open, so I'm I'm gonna enter with a few questions.

16th and 6th.

Is that the project that we receive funds for three years ago?

Uh the 16th and 6th is a project where we are partnering with Valley Regional Transit.

Um they allocated some funds for us, and it's like a pay as you go type thing.

We're currently trying to finalize design or get through the environmental process.

We are not through environmental yet to move into construction.

So just ending action on VRT that that may go away.

Uh the rules of the grant is as I understand them so far is we have to be the the grant is to fund a facility on one of their routes.

Um if the city of Nampa chooses not to fund or there is not a route on that, we would not be eligible to continue with that grant and may have to repay it.

So what we've paid so far.

Council president follow-up, please.

If I we'll need some data on that if you will.

If you'll follow back, like to know what we've expended or what we're on the up hook for at the moment.

Uh I think to date it it's around the like 50 to 70,000 mark is what we've expended.

And they've reimbursed that 50 to 70,000 up to this point?

Yes.

Okay.

This is the 500 and some odd thousand dollars that they gifted us, you could say two and a half years ago, correct, when we first came on council.

This funding is coming from the federal transit authority or administration, FTA.

I don't know what the A stands for, I'm sorry.

Uh and it is the funding is eligible through that.

So they have we don't have access to that because we um aren't a transit authority, so to speak.

So VRT allocated those funds to us as part of the grant, um, as long as it is being used for a site on their route.

Last follow-up, Crystal, and you can use whatever quote you would like to with these projects that we're getting, in my opinion, a carrot strung along in front of our faces for three years.

Are is that worth it to us, those federal funds that we're expensing a million dollars nearly a year for a program to get 500,000 that we still haven't seen fruition of almost three years later?

Um so in full disclosure, this is the first FTA grant that I have ever um completed administered.

I've only done federal highways type grants with that, have a lot of federal experience, but one Fed is not the same type of Fed.

Um we have been struggling to get through the environmental process um to continue moving forward.

Um I'll not heard it is to make changes.

It is council's discretion on what grants we apply for and what grants we accept.

Juice worth the squeeze.

That is council's decision to make.

Thank you.

One more thing.

You've got all these one-liners that are ready to go.

One more question for you.

Um is it possible that we could turn around the impact fees and pay for those hawks ourselves?

Because it's a new development.

Well, to determine the definition of new developments.

Would it be possible for us to do that?

I know what he's gonna say, but the Daniel Badger, city engineer.

The um impact fees would not be able to pay for that.

Um that's not on our impact fee list.

It's not a capacity-related um issue there.

There's no new growth in that area that would justify being able to utilize impact fee funds for that, even if it were on the list.

Thanks, Daniel.

Daniel, thank you.

Through cold water on your idea.

Uh, I will note though that through the TIS process, if something is required for an improved crossing of some sort, that is also analyzed.

So, well, it's not impact fee, like it is looked at.

Okay.

All right.

Essence of time.

Moving on to streets.

Excellent.

Uh have to give a shout out to my crack team over here, even though they're all abandoning me through retirement, which is really rude.

Um, Donald Barr is our street, is our street superintendent.

He's been here for 19 years.

Uh I think he's got like two drive to works and a wake-up or something, is how he likes to say it to me, uh, left in him.

So he's he's retiring his retirement party will be at the end of June.

Um, so I invite everybody to come to that.

It should be on your calendars already.

Uh Jeff Kasma, our assistant superintendent has been here uh quite a while as well.

He also very, very recently retired.

His last day is this week, next week, into this month.

Um so we've lost two out of our three uh leadership tripods here.

But Steve Overweg holding strong, so I appreciate him as well.

He's our our newest street assistant superintendent, but these three guys manage a huge workload, and again, a very, very public-facing division for the city of Nampa.

But these three guys manage a huge workload, and again, a very, very public-facing division for the city of Nampa.

Department overview.

Uh I said before streets and traffic are different entities.

Uh the streets maintain the streets.

Um, so in the roads, the black stuff and the the gray stuff right beside it, um, so to speak.

The street division is a division of main maintenance professionals committed to maintain and provide safe, efficient, and affordable city streets and commercial corridors with an emphasis on exceptional customer service, and I sure think that uh they provide that exceptional customer service.

We have 28 full-time FTEs, and then depending upon the time of year, sometime between like 10 and 20 temp employees as we ramp up for chip seal season, which starts in five days, six days, something like that.

It's coming, it's coming, guys.

Uh, a little bit of their overview.

We have uh almost 1,020 lane miles, 5,400 catch basins, 1800 sand and grease straps, 2500-ish ponds, 180 miles of stormwater line, 2800 manholes, 52,000 gallons of brine produced in-house.

Um, they go through 12,000 tons of chipseal, 3600 tons of salt, and they have 77 pieces of equipment in their fleet.

They're huge.

Uh the streets accomplishments.

Um, they finished executing the streets fleet master plan by constructing expanding the streets edition.

This also went very, very well.

Uh, we'll be opening ahead of schedule.

It should be complete by the end of this month, but our official like soft opening for it will be Don's retirement.

So if you want to come see it, like come out, have a burger with us, say goodbye to Don and see our expanded street division.

Um they were able to produce 52,000 gallons of brine, as I said before, which saved the city about 78,000.

Um, they trained 14 new employees with in-house CDL programs, uh saving the city about 84,000.

Then they hosted the city of Nampa's fourth annual heavy equipment rodeo, which I just presented on Monday night, two days ago, very recently.

Um, this last week, I will also give these guys a shout out.

We went to the first chip seal conference put on here in Idaho.

Um, I think City of Nampa got about 15 different shout-outs during that chip seal conference from entities across Idaho and then eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington.

They continually look to Nampa uh for innovative innovative ideas, saying, like, hey, what's Nampa doing?

What do you guys uh what do you guys think of this?

They want to know what our opinion is, and it's because we have such a good group of uh professionals here that know how to do their job, and like we've we've got a good group.

Some of our goals uh inspect to maintain 100% of our stormwater assets.

We are currently managing or meeting that goal.

Um, we want no more than 50% of SALT budget spent on outside brine purchases.

Um we are currently also meeting that goal and then completing our expanded chip seal program, which it kicks off real real soon, as I said.

Our current goal is about 73 or 7.3 million square feet.

Um, and then I will talk about this a little bit later, but we want to maintain a pavement condition index of about 60 percent on our roadways.

Um, our current one for the city, if I'm gonna throw a number out, average is around the 72 percent.

Um, that is artificially inflated because it includes all of the outside uh roads that we just annexed from the highway districts.

We they have to give them to us in really good condition, as well as all of like the new developments that are brand new roads.

Um, if you look at like our downtown core, like the more proper NAMPA, our PCI is sitting around the 61%.

Uh another forward or outward facing uh group here.

So I I wanted to include some of the citizen comments from the surveys.

Uh all of them talked about or the bulk of them talked about roadway condition, improve the roads, fix the potholes, uh fix Cherry Lane, it's the worst in the valley.

Uh, you know you're in Nampa because the streets are bumpy.

Um the heights on the streets are too thick, the roads are awful, like it needs work, washboards.

My personal favorite is by a level.

Um we do have a level for the record, um, as you can see right here.

Uh, we understand the streets are retted and washboarded.

Um, our pavement condition, as you can see from these pictures.

I'm not gonna shoot or sugarcoat this.

I'm gonna be very candid, right?

Uh, while our PCI is 61%-ish, like our roads are failing.

We have some of our roadways with a PCI of nine.

Um, it's almost like it's not good, guys.

Um, to outsource uh rebuilding a half a mile of roadway, it's about one and a half to two and a half million dollars.

Um, if we were able to do it in-house, it would be uh about half the cost of 800,000.

Um, this is year three of stepping into that plan of um building our own construction crew.

So I'm gonna talk a little bit about the equipment that we purchased, how we're training our current guys.

You will see in our current equipment asks, it's another round of equipment to continue moving towards this and taking the bites out of the apple.

So in like another two years, we'll be able to have a an in-house construction crew that can start chipping away at some of this um for lower cost.

I would like to put a caveat, they will not be able to do roads, the big main main arterial roads.

Those ones will still need to be contracted out, those are too big a projects.

But if you're looking at like a block by block uh in the residential and the smaller, lower volume roads, these are the ones that we want to target by doing in-house and then use our city funds to do the bigger roads.

Council President in regard to the pavement condition areas.

I know you and John are working very closely on trying to coordinate what areas are needing full utility repair at the same time.

When you do a pavement replacement, are you shutting down that full road, or are you just doing a half stretch and letting traffic flow on the other half, or what is the process look like?

Uh Council President Councilman Griffin, it could be both if I'm being honest.

Um we try and not do full closures where possible.

Um, John and I's group absolutely collaborate, so we don't want to rip up a road with a subpar pipe below it.

Um we want to replace the pipe and do like a one-dig policy.

Um that's why you've seen a couple of things in the amendment amendments come through where I'm advancing a project or John is delaying a project so that our projects can realign together.

It also gives us an opportunity to share the costs because the enterprise funds can pay for the road above the trench, right?

Um, and then I can come and pay for the road the rest of the road, so to speak, with uh the highway distribution account money and things like that where I get my funding sources from.

Whenever we do a full road rebuild, one of our big problems is it triggers uh a federal ADA law that says we have to upgrade the ADA ramps through that.

An ADA ramp costs about six thousand dollars on average.

So if you're looking at a city block that's 300 feet long to do 300 feet of of new pavement, say it's a hundred thousand dollars, and then you've got eight ramps on either side on top of that at six thousand dollars a pop.

It drastically increases the cost of the project and what we can do.

Um so we're navigating through how to do that and how to balance that.

Well, I think the the one dig initiative is a great focus, and I appreciate you doing it.

Even last night we talked about it.

So uh wherever we can do that in the 50-year-old pipeline sections, the pavement needs replaced.

Let's be sure not to dig unless we're gonna do it all and not have to go back in six months, a year, five years later.

Thank you.

Uh, here's some pictures of the street division at work.

You can see uh with the equipment that they have, they're able to do large scale patches, um, which is our first step towards paving, right?

You don't want to just do a pothole, you want to progressively work up.

But this is some of the equipment that we've received over the last two years and the new personnel that we've received.

So you can see they're starting to train on this equipment, they're getting better, they're honing their skills so that we can start doing that paving crew.

Budget proposal.

Um we've got two replacements of street sweepers uh for about 850,000, replacing a farm tractor for about 130,000.

Um that purchase of a new steel drum asphalt roller that's for the new construction crew at 275, and then two new F 550 pickups that will be both for the new construction crew and for what their current is.

Uh, we're kind of uh underutilize, or we we don't have enough pickups to transport all of our staff, especially during the chipsale seasons and things like that.

So we tend to borrow from fleet on the uh trucks and vehicles that are gonna go to auction and just hope that they keep working throughout the season, um, which is not a best practice.

Like we want to maintain a good fleet here.

Uh again, in my essence of candor, I shared this last year.

The the message is still true, so I need to talk very candidly about our heavy equipment operators and the wages and um the struggles that we are having to keep keep them.

Um if you compare us to all of the other agents, well, not all of them, but a few of the other agencies in the Treasure Valley that do very comparable work.

We are asking our staff to do more uh maintain more lane miles than any of the other agencies around.

So you can see right here, ACHD.

Um, their people maintain around 38 lane miles per person.

Nampa Highway District, who's our closest highway district, and the largest one here.

Um, they only have to maintain around like 18, 19 miles per person.

We are asking our people to maintain 45 miles per person.

Um, and I will say, like, if you compare our lane miles to like Nampa Highway District's lane miles, ours are more complicated.

We have curb, we have gutter, we have poor pavement condition, we have utilities in the roadway.

This is not a rural cross section with a drainage swale on the side.

So we're asking our people to maintain more and have more complicated roadways.

So Chris, if we're gonna change it uh going through it last night.

Um what we need is fitted, etc.

But within the uh budget part, we just need confirmation where we're gonna go to the target, so we need to talk and we'll work finance, but what you've laid out is uh appreciated, and it shows that we're under where we should be, and we're asking people to work where we're training them, they're going elsewhere, and so council I believe has an appetite to take care of things and move up forward.

Okay, would you like me to skip the wage data slides or put them?

Okay, uh council president questions.

I know we pay the Dempa Highway District uh from taxes that we the city does, and we don't get to benefit from them.

Is there a way that we could lot what we think they should get?

I want to keep that money here in NAP in other words, and and use it for better roads and streets.

Uh that's what I'm talking about a tax taxes that they impose.

Uh councilman bills, councilman Rodriguez.

Um, so the Nampa Highway District collects the road and bridge levy um and then allocates a portion of that to us.

Um and and it's it's a fair proportion in my mind.

They also take a portion of what they keep and they partner.

We focus on partnership projects.

Um, so they prioritize projects that NAMP has prioritized.

An example is the Robinson and Greenhurst Overpass.

Um, we're splitting that one 50-50.

Another example is North Side and Cherry.

We split the cost of that one 50-50 almost.

Um the U stick widening, so they're also allocating some of their projects to benefit our citizens.

It's all of our citizens right in Canyon County on our roads line uh go together, but they they are sh allocating our proportionate share to us.

It's a good benefit then.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

Uh skipping over, I guess, the retention and the cost stuff.

Your your information's very good.

Okay.

Okay, it's hit home.

Beautiful.

We're gonna solve it.

Thank you.

And uh so budget summary.

Got it.

Sit down and uh so we're we're working with finance where we're pulling monies, where we're rearranging, and getting uh pretty dialed as to direction.

I'd like to hear it, and I appreciate council's support, so thank you.

Council President, if I could just real quick for a comment looking in the packet, that bottom right-hand corner of that page is what we're looking at from our perspective on council side for dollar amounts on what we need to find.

Thank you.

That is correct.

And these numbers were um coming from the wage analysis and HR completed by Chris Aukar.

It was spoken, I think that the new policy in place and what we're doing for that was spoken about last week.

And we appreciate Chris's efforts and what's going on there as well.

Yep.

So these are the options uh to not increase funding.

The 143 will get us up one pay grade, which will bit put us equal to the other city divisions.

Um, and then the 287 is really what we need to get up to um close to that midpoint of industry standard.

So where we need to be able to be competitive and take care of our roads and exit.

Yep.

Um for that bottom line.

Thank you.

Operation budget, we stayed about the same last year.

It was 5.2 million.

This is 5.6 million.

Um, so that's well within the the realm of uh fairly flat.

Uh wanted to give you guys a heads up.

This is just looking ahead.

This is not a request that I'm asking now.

This is just some some tickler to keep in there.

Our pit, um, which in in 2020 I showed a picture of it was about 200 feet by 300 feet and about 60 feet deep.

So this is where we go and dump all of our street sweepings and any other like debris and things like that from the roadway that we're getting, not large scale degree.

We throw debris, we throw that away.

Um I show a picture of it in 2026.

You can see our hole is getting filled in.

Um, so we've probably got another two to four years of capacity in this pit, and then after that, we're gonna be looking for a new pit.

Um, so we're gonna need to start thinking long term about finding a sizable hole in the ground if I'm being honest, to put this in.

Our other option is to use our county landfill, Pickles Butte.

The average cost would be about 45,000 a year to dump our street sweepings and things over there.

Um, this pit will also, according to the environmental permit that we have for it, will become a park after it is at capacity, not one that we can do structures on, but something you know like a dog park or a kite park or things like that.

So it will be an amenity for our citizen, but um so it's green, it's green space.

It will be future green space, but we're we're nearing capacity again, not not now, but a couple years close there, we got to figure it out.

Correct.

Council president, yes.

But we recently approved a project off of Midway that was a butting an extraction site or a gravel pit.

I don't know what the formal term is.

Is that still being is is that being worked on?

Is that space being used by the owner of that property, or is that something that we could potentially be it's still an active fit?

Yeah, okay, thank you.

In five years as well.

I don't know their build out, I think it's five to ten.

Okay, if we're nearing similar timelines, that might be something close enough to the city and deep enough rather than having them remediate, we just fill it in for them.

So the difference is is what goes in fill determines what you can use the land for later.

So we've gone in with non-structural fill in in the back hall, and so that's why this is gonna be green space and open space because it won't support the structural site.

So private operator on the pit, they've already got a plan as far as how they're what materials they're bringing back in and how they're structurally coming back up.

So FYI.

Any other streets related questions before I pass it back to Tom?

No, one more crystal, we appreciate it.

One more question, sir.

So we do have one more.

We're close on time.

What are you looking for in terms of future revenue service?

Uh not revenue, but federal grants to help our streets and roads.

Uh Councilman Rodriguez, it's very challenging to find maintenance related grants.

We keep searching for them, and we do have one from ITD that will come in FY27 to repave Cherry Road uh between Franklin and 11th, so they do come, but they're few and far between.

Most of the grants are safety capacity um related type things, and so it's very very challenging to find an outside source.

We need to come up with an in-house source of income to do our maintenance.

Okay, thank you.

Tom, I'm gonna say that our infrastructure staffing item.

I'd like to defer to a meeting that chief of staff clay is putting together, and that we cover these these last couple of pages in that meeting.

Absolutely.

We'll do that.

That's a follow-up from what uh council is aware.

I haven't had time to talk to you bring it, but um so public works.

Uh, we appreciate the presentation, appreciate the information.

Uh we were asked to add something to the agenda today.

It's uh so it's listed in as uh item one-two, and we're going to uh take that issue up.

I'll mention to council what's happening there.

Let Daniel uh take the lead and staff.

You're welcome to stay, but you don't have to if you want to take a moment if you're wanting to break now's that moment, otherwise uh this will take uh probably five to seven, ten minutes.

So where we're at is um Daniel's been working with a uh party who is uh working on installing improvements and creating a charter school.

You can see it on your screen there in front of you.

It's outlined in blue.

Uh, in that process, uh the city has identified that the applicant needs to put together a traffic impact study, and pending that traffic impact study, there's gonna be improvements need to be made.

Um as I understand the applicant is uh potentially under a time constraint wanting to open the school, and so they're proposing an agreement between the city and uh themselves uh to outline uh future forward.

The issue is uh we've done some of these things, and sometimes there's comes back and there's a delay, and or uh the performance doesn't happen, and we're expected to still allow the facility to open, and so we need to be cognizant of what's gonna be presented here, and this is a special deal.

So I'm trying to just give you a quick uh lay of why this item showed up uh this morning.

Daniel, uh Daniel Badger, city engineer.

Uh as council president stated, uh, we have been working with the Barbie Barbiean, Barbie and some I can't ever say it right.

Uh charter school, bravian.

Thank you.

Uh charter school.

Uh they submitted a permit application back in March.

Uh we received the traffic impact study in April.

Uh we've gone through one round of uh comments.

We met with them again on Monday to discuss some comments that still needed to be addressed, as well as some other items with the traffic study and and talked over some of our concerns, some of the approach and different things with the traffic study.

It was a very productive meeting.

Um their consultant is um working on some of those revisions.

Um they are likely to reduce some of the uh required improvements, though likely not to eliminate them.

Um, and so they are they are working on getting the permit issued so that they can get their funding allocated and and get their lease with the building or purchase with the building done.

Uh Preston was able to complete the review of the agreement yesterday.

We provided those comments back to the Brabian team.

Uh their attorney came back with a request to add one uh additional item into the agreement uh that would be a clause that would allow if city staff and brabian were to come to an agreement on timing for some of those improvements that they would be able to still open the school if we can come to an agreement on improvements that may not be necessary for the opening of the school.

Um so staff does not necessarily um where we don't know exactly what those improvements are all going to entail.

Um that's some of the concern for staff is just that we don't know at this point what all of those improvements will be.

Um we recognize that without knowing that there may be some improvements that are we would not be comfortable with them opening without, but there may be some that we are comfortable with them opening without if they are triggered in later years or that type of stuff.

And so um I I think we're generally um could live with that condition with the understanding that it is you know with mutual agreement from staff and uh brabian um on what improvements are required and aren't.

Um and so that's that's the gist of the agreement.

They're agreeing that they will complete the traffic study to the city's satisfaction, they will undertake those improvements.

Um the way that it's drafted right now, would be that they would have those completed prior to requesting operations in the school or a certificate of occupancy, as they've um that's as it's drafted today.

They've requested some leeway in there to to continue negotiations once we have a final on what those improvements would be, and as we get closer to their uh requested start of operations.

All right, any questions?

Well, Daniel, um so from my perspective, it's a difficult city of Napa wants to be cooperative and helpful.

Uh the difficulty is uh the city of Napa has also been taken advantage of on other projects over the years at different times that people don't perform, and therefore uh they still want to occupy the facility, and then the agreement is difficult to enforce, and the performance doesn't get in force.

Um and the city at times has held the bag uh as it is, or we wonder why something didn't get finished up.

Well, the people just didn't get it done.

So uh we understand the request that's coming before that uh there's a need to get this done, it's part of the development you want to open the school.

We understand that.

At the same time, there's got to either be a performance or payment uh bond or a letter of credit or something that gives guarantee of some sort for those items that uh so in terms of adding language to the contract what's being asked could be, but there's got to be uh no different than what the city requires and other uh developments, some type of LC that says there's a guarantee that the improvements are gonna get done and done within a particular particular time.

Now, those are my comments, council council president.

You can uh weigh in as you see fit or ask Daniel questions at this time.

I have some questions for Daniel if I could.

This this roadway right it it's industrial on 11th, correct?

It's one of the main intersections, and then what is that right there?

Com stock.

So the roadways that are near there are um so 11th Avenue North, um, and then you have Comstock here, industrial is a little farther to the south.

Uh Ridge Crest is to the north.

Um, those are some of the intersections that are identified in the traffic impact study currently um for improvements.

The reason I ask when Amazon went in, what improvements did they apply to that roadway, adding three to four hundred additional cars for their facility for the Kings Commerce Center.

Um that was the development, it was not originally slated for Amazon, the Kings Commerce Center developer that came in and did that.

Um their traffic study identified improvements at Comstock in out years.

Uh the city collected payment in lieu of construction for that.

Um pending approval of this uh the the final traffic study, that may be the solution there at Comstock and 11th.

Um but we don't know that yet until we see the actual triggers for that they that their traffic study identifies.

Okay.

Because I think there's a lot of uh the school could be a factor of the traffic.

I think the golf course, Amazon, there's a lot of other factors that are causing significant traffic to that school.

Obviously, having potentially four to six hundred students starting in the fall might have an impact, but uh from my perspective, this is this is uh something that I would like to see opening in the fall, knowing and speaking of some of these families that are wanting to attend.

Um so if the terms are agreeable on precedent's end and their legals end, uh even be willing to make a motion to add that language subject to all legal properties final review.

Um I'd like to see see movement happen on this today.

Council President.

Yes, if I could talk to, I think it's uh Greg or Miguel, one of the two, or or yes, Brandon.

Thank you, Council President.

Uh Councilmember Rodriguez, for the record, we may use Brandon Dear Some the Head of School of Sport for Bayern Academy.

It's brah by on.

It's hard to say.

There we go, you got it.

Oh, cool.

Um, so uh I know your attorney filed uh a different addendum to the information agreement, and what uh President Council Bill's just mentioned uh uh on behalf of the school.

Are you willing uh to give better direction for the city of Napa on Loves Avenue North?

Mr.

Uh Council President, uh uh Councilmember Rodriguez.

There's a couple of factors that we need to consider when we're looking at kind of what the that agreement might look like.

I would say that it's likely that uh requirement of a PMP or something like that would be probably devastating to the project, largely because it would impact the financing, which has already been set.

Um, and that would be catastrophic for us.

Uh we couldn't go back to WAFET and say, hey, now we need to add a PMP to this.

I think that that's not us not wanting to be held accountable for the agreement that we have.

We recognize that we want to be good partners with the city, just as the city wants to be good partners with us, but we also recognize the fiscal realities within our school, and we recognize that um any movement on that end would significantly disrupt um the closing of our of our deal on on Friday.

Uh we again appreciate the city's uh willingness to hear us today and and to put this on the agenda.

Uh we do have significant demand, but we also have a lot of busting that happens, and I would point out that you know the analysis that we're gonna provide to um to city staff, and we do appreciate uh Mr.

Badger and his work on this.

We're actually gonna see a net reduction in in traffic compared to the most recent occupancy or use.

And so, you know, because of the way our system is created with the way our school is created.

We use something called reinforcing days where kids K through six can choose to home learn every other day.

We're getting over a hundred families or home school families in Nampa to attend our school.

We have we hear a lot um at the statewide level about the need to be able to bring people back into the public education system, and that's what we're accomplishing.

And those families still want to be able to home learn uh part of the time.

And so uh not to belabor your point, uh, council member, but uh I would just say it's not that we don't want to be held accountable.

We also don't want to do something that would you know basically eliminate the ability for this project to go forward.

This is a this is a great piece of real estate.

We're trying to develop it so it serves the community better, and um we want to be good partners for the city where we've we we've continued to try to press into that direction, and then I can make the commitment for myself and for the rest of our team, but our Chairman DeLuna, uh Dr.

Wiles, and others that we are committed to doing that.

Basically, is uh you can't commit without knowing what we're gonna commit you to.

Correct.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I mean, we're willing to.

I I think that at the end of the day, Council President, Mr.

Uh Councilmember Rodriguez.

I think at the end of the day I think the mitigations are going to be limited.

I I do think that there's you know been conversations about some more expansive ones, but I think that once the analysis is actually completed and you look at the real um numbers, we've got real registrations where parents have had to say this is how I plan to transport my kid to school.

This is what we're trying to do.

We've got 30 percent of our students are low income.

They're free there, and that's for a charter school is a very, very high number.

We've got a disproportionate number who want to use busing.

That those two things tend to go together.

And and we're trying to provide access, especially for families in South Nampa, who frankly nobody tends to care about.

And we're we're trying to give them something that they their families themselves couldn't afford.

And you know, getting access to some of the things that we've done.

I mean, yesterday we announced we had a partnership uh with Adidas of America.

I mean, they came in, they're investing in our school.

That doesn't happen.

Like we've just the amazing things that are happening with the school.

We got Dr.

Wiles, what a phenomenal pickup that is.

We've got just a great great team, and we've got a lot of families who are interested.

We still have 200 plus students on our wait list as of today.

If this is this is going to put NAMP on the map, this is going to do something that we is going to be unique for NAPA.

So we understand the school is a great thing.

Yeah, we don't need a sales pitch on the school.

I love selling my school that's a good thing.

We understand we understand all that.

Thank you.

The issue is you have a line of sight issue.

Uh when you come over that freeway headed south, you can't see, you come up and over, and now we're we're at a school.

Whether there's buses trying to get in and out, whether there's parents trying to drop off, it's important to us from a city point of view, wearing the city hat.

It's important for this traffic study to get completed.

The other part is is to make sure that we have an understanding.

What the traffic study says, that we're not saying golly gee whiz, we don't have funding, golly gee whiz, let us open.

And yeah, we understand there's problems, but we want to go ahead and open anyways, and somebody takes a hit, and that's my concern.

And so I want to make sure that we have a safe site access in and out because of the topography.

I've used the road for years.

And and I just all sudden, hey, you're in there in a school zone.

Is that sign on the other side of the freeway where you can't see?

So you know what's coming.

Hopefully, that TIS is gonna point out those issues to us.

And Council President, if I could respond first briefly, yes.

Um I completely agree.

We recognize that um the city is has a vested interest in making sure that you I mean, we just listened to a presentation from your from Crystal related to your traffic, and that being the number one thing you guys hear about.

And so I'm very sensitive to that.

One of the things she said is that she likes the innovative notion notion of how the school is going.

But we want to be partners with the city.

We've already started with the traffic competitive study, it's basically finished.

We're just revising some final comments, which we'll provide back to Mr.

Badger and the rest of the staff.

Um, I I believe probably today.

And again, we're not saying that we don't want to be held accountable, and we're happy to have that in the agreement that we sign that we will take on, you know, that fiscal responsibility to make sure that that's not passed on to the to the NAMPA taxpayer.

We we recognize that would be unfair to them, and we want to make sure that we're being good stewards of of the public trust that we've been given, just as you've got to be good stewards of the public trust that you've been given in your in your in your leadership positions.

And so to the extent that the city attorney is able to make sure that that's delineated clearly within the agreement that we will take care of that.

Obviously, we've got budget margin that we that we build in, and those things could be addressed over time to make sure that though they're taking place.

Obviously, it's not gonna be I I don't believe it's an immediate term issue.

Like we're not talking about on day one, we're talking about maybe on start of year three, and that gives us time to build up a reserve so we can pay those things out of out of our cash flow.

Yeah, and not until we have that TIS, we don't know what the requirements are.

What I'm trying to come down and avoid because I've been there, is you're ready to open the school, you have a uh whatever number of students forthcoming, uh, and there's uh issues on traffic and life safety that we're being asked to waive that may be a potential uh issue or are sitting there on the punch list.

Hey, you need this and guaranteed that each of you will have letters going to council.

You need to waive this, and there's a point of things that we can do to waive, but when it comes to public safety, uh it's not a waiver, it's not a oh gee whiz, it's okay to put those issues off.

Um, and as soon as we have a bus accident, somebody gets hurt, etc.

Well, why did the city council waive that requirement?

So I'm just trying to I'm not trying to be tough.

I'm trying to make sure that we have the lay of the land and understand you have obligations, but we as well have to have obligations.

We want it to go forward, it's just that uh this is a rush deal, and candidly uh I see it coming forward that in 60 to 70 days it's gonna be uh, yep, here's what we got to do, but that's gonna take us for another six months, a year to get that done.

And there's gonna be a a question mark whether we've got a safety issue on 11th Avenue North turning into your site.

I appreciate that uh council president.

I would I would say that we're not going to have any pedestrian traffic that is gonna be prohibited in our program for the because we recognize just in the chair and drop-off, right?

We will have but we'll have coordinated teams to make sure that that happens efficiently inside of our uh within the the large queuing area that our parking lot has.

If you were to look how deep that parking lot goes, it allows us to double stack for a considerable distance so we get roads, cars off the roadway and out of the way.

There's also that nice cul-de-sac that we connect on to that allows us to also get cars off the main roadway.

And so we would, you know, I appreciate where you're coming from.

I respectfully I I completely agree.

And we want to make sure that we're good partners with the city as well, and we're committing to do that.

Um and uh we're asking, we're not asking for special dispensation, we're just asking for the ability to continue to work through the process, recognizing that improvements can take time, but also recognizing the the benefits of the community that we're trying to provide to them while maintaining the um making sure that taxpayers in NAMPA are made whole.

I'm gonna ask a question of Crystal for a school to open.

What is the requirement as far as any type of warning signs being installed ahead of time?

Does that come under the TIS or is that under streets?

Who who installs those signs that traffic knows they're entering a school zone and so forth?

Is the school doing that or are we as a city doing that?

Council President, um the they have not at this point proposed a school zone adjacent to the school there.

If they do uh and that is approved, they would be responsible to install the infrastructure for that.

And and we maintain those after they go in, but the the school would be responsible to install that infrastructure.

Council president, it's is have they intended that or express that they're intending to apply for a school zone in that area?

Has that come up in your card traffic study at this point has not addressed that um to to request that?

Is that intended to be applied for at this time?

Okay.

Um I will say that um Mr.

Durst represented that they believe that the traffic generation will decrease from the previous use.

Uh that has yet to be demonstrated, and I am doubtful of that that statement.

President, yes.

Does the speed limit have to change in that area, Daniel?

Um not unless they request a um a school zone.

Um that's not something that is required.

Um do you know when the traffic study will take place?

Uh so again, they they've submitted the their initial submittal came in mid-April.

Um we received the revisions on the 12th of this month.

Uh we met with them on Monday to discuss um the deficiencies and things that needed to be addressed.

Um, and so they're their team is working on those.

Um I I don't have a you know, it's I I would anticipate that we would see it within the next week.

Uh Mr.

Durst said potentially today.

I I don't know their traffic engineer schedule, but they I they did indicate that they would be working on it and get it to us as quickly as they were.

And then question for legal.

Um, would it be okay for us if we were to move forward with this to put something in there as far as the timeline is like a year, something that we would look at.

Can you kind of give us some guidance on what that timeline should look like?

Uh council president for the improvements for the improvements.

I I think I may take that one.

Um that ultimately that will depend on what the improvements are.

I will say that improvements at their entrances and and turn lanes and stuff that are needed there would be things that I would not be comfortable deferring into the future.

Um if there are as we go farther away from the school, um those impacts are reduced, and so the having those things happen farther into the future are um less of a concern um depending on what they are.

Um but the improvements directly the turn lanes and those there would be triggered.

Um those those would be things that we would want to see happen with the opening of the school.

Um the uh other stuff um, you know, uh depending on what they are a year could certainly be reasonable depending on what they are.

Council president, so um Daniel from what I understand what their attorney put into the clause, um it still gives you discretion on whether or not um they can go forward if it's not uh uh something that you feel comfortable with, then you have the ability to say no, we're not going forward until this is taken care of.

Council President, uh Councilwoman Scog.

Um we have not seen that clause.

There was just a request yesterday to have something in there, uh generally a clause like that.

Um that would be something that if council is comfortable with uh and wants to have in there, we would just request that you approve the agreement pending um legals working that clause out.

And you're comfortable with that.

Uh it's not necessarily what I would not my ideal situation, but if that's the will of the council, we can well there's there's one aspect of wanting the will to get the the job done.

There's the other aspect that both parties have a meeting of the minds of what the agreement is and what the performance requirement is.

Um, and so we typically don't do too much waivers on development agreements, and uh we uh expect those who sign those development agreements are gonna perform within the time frames, and sometimes they want to come back and say, Well, gee, we just go ahead and record our flat, will you, so that we can get uh moving forward building houses, even though we haven't put all the improvements in.

Um so it it's it's not this issue alone, it's what is our standard.

And our standard is we have agreements, we have responsibilities on both sides of the parties, and we'd need to make sure I understand squeeze play and I understand what's gonna happen in 60, 70 days that you're gonna want to open, and those improvements are not gonna be there, and there's gonna be a political pressure coming to this council to wave and to do something that uh puts the city at liability.

That's my concern.

I want to make sure that it's understood.

I mean uh so I just think uh we got to get that traffic study and far as signing a document yet.

I mean, this is to authorize me to sign a mitigation agreement, traffic impact mitigation agreement, which means we're basically waiving or giving you time, and we don't know the details yet because we don't have the TIS yet.

We do not have a completed TIS, correct?

Council President, yes.

I I would like to make a motion if I could, unless that's out of order at this time.

Well, I'm not sure what we're making a motion for yet.

My motion to authorize me to sign an agreement that we don't even have the agreement yet.

No, my motion read the agreement.

I don't let me ask a question.

So Preston, have you read the agreement?

Council President, I have.

Um, and if I may just add some context to this, uh I think you hit it right on the head.

There's a lot, there's kind of a three-headed uh nature here.

You have a technical safety side with engineering, there's a legal side, and there's a political angle to this as well.

And those all have to triangulate together.

What I'm hearing when I draft an agreement is what is the technical safety side concerns, what are the political concerns, and then legally try to thread those all together in a way that protects the city, the transaction, and hopefully success successful uh transaction for both parties.

Um I've been getting a lot of feedback from engineering and safety, and to the extent possible, maximizing the concerns that Daniel is vocalized to me, and then there's other political concerns that this council is discussing and working through right now.

So, yes, there's been red line revisions, but it is not a magic wand to just make all the things you know come to fruition easily.

Um but in short, yes, I've reviewed it, sent some revisions back, but there would still be more back and forth required, not to mention the safety and political concerns that are being fleshed out right now.

So I don't if we don't have an agreement that we've been able to read and we're making a motion to approve subject two, um, then that puts the onus on me and and Daniel and Preston uh to then have to continue to follow through without council physically reading or seeing the documents that we're instituting.

So if if motion is made that says subject to legal approval by all parties, does all parties mean yourself and the legal counsel for the school, or can council see that final draft that y'all do, and we're the third and final party.

Yeah, if I may, council president.

Um it's an atypical and unusual practice, right, to leave a contract open-ended like this.

Um it's happened in some rare instances when the intent was very clear, the understanding was clear, there weren't major obstacles.

It was more of just getting it forward in a timely, efficient manner.

Um this one does have some unanswered questions, and what I'm hearing today is um maybe some real concerns that need to be worked through.

So this would be uh atypical to leave it open-ended like that.

As you know, our typical practice is we have a finish foiled agreed upon contract presented to you for um approval.

Okay, so what's driving this time frame?

Your closing Friday.

I would just address that in two ways.

First is we've agreed all the red line changes that the city attorney provided, so we are ready to effectuate an agreement with the additional clause that we suggest related to the opportunities for a TCO.

We're we're just looking for a single line from the city attorney.

He can get that done in the next 15 minutes.

We're happy to sign off on it.

Um that's we've already accepted.

We've already signed up.

We've already agreed.

Council President, if I may, um we're not doing a rush deal, right?

I understand.

I understand, but we've already agreed to all the we've already agreed to the to the city's requested changes.

So we're not so we don't need more back and forth for us.

We're happy to accept whatever the city provides as uh it and again we just asked for an additional clause, but to answer your question, the reason is because we need to close by the 22nd.

Takes three days to close a takes two days, 48 hours roughly to close a bond.

Our PSA expires on Friday.

We've already had a delay it twice.

We've already had to extend it twice.

Sellers not willing to do the seller's not willing to extend it again.

That's and and without a permit in hand.

We uh can't proceed.

Every other review from the city has come back and approved the the perm the plan is submitted.

Engineering is the last place that we're stuck.

That's frankly, uh, council president.

That's that's that is the the crux of the of the of the urgency for us.

But we're happy to sign off if if the city attorney can put together a clause that you know allows us to still have a TCO at some point, we're happy to sign off on all the other revisions that he's already provided to us.

What's a TCO?

Uh temporary um occupancy.

Thank you.

Because there may, Mr.

President, because there may be there may be mitigations that are not safety issues.

We recognize there may be things we need to do before we open respecting what Mr.

Badger is saying, but there may be things you say, hey, you've got to do this.

We couldn't even get civil engineering done in three months for those things, right?

So that would be a practical impossibility, but we want to make sure that we still have a good faith effort to have those done at a time certain.

Yeah, I think the key is is that we have an understanding and something's in this agreement that if there's safety issues, and we have potential liability as a city granting occupancy where you have the opportunity to have an accident on 11th Avenue North, and it's whether it's a bus accident or people's car accident because of visibility and lack of signage.

Uh I'm not interested in signing that agreement because I'm I think uh we're setting ourselves up because of the the crunch of the time, and I understand crunch of the time.

I've been there, I know that some of you in the room and and uh so forth know those issues.

Um so I just think it's wise.

We have another meeting tomorrow.

It's gonna be a lively one.

Um I guess I I I was trying to get it done today and to avoid tomorrow, but uh at this point, I think there needs to be a little bit of time yet today to be able to finalize agreements if the agreements aren't ready to go.

Uh as far as voting and and defer a vote till tomorrow, uh give time to know what the agreement is.

Uh council president, I I have a question here, and I think it's too legal or to Daniel.

The city approved that building, whatever it's called years ago, and it had the same safety issues, if there's any at all.

What changed now because of the the occupancy.

Is that why that it is okay?

A school has a whole different you got a different set of traffic coming to that facility than you do employee in and out and shipping in and out.

Okay.

Never mind, Danny.

That's my perspective.

I I in addition, uh obviously there's been general increase in traffic.

Um that that building uh Zyla, that's the original Xilog building.

The Xilog closed its operations in 2004.

I'll be honest, I don't remember when it was built uh prior to me being here at the city.

Um, and so you know, standards have changed significantly from when that building was put in as well as the as council president said, there is a significant difference in the uh type of traffic and traffic patterns that would be between those types of businesses.

Okay, so council president, is there would there be uh an issue for us to give them a nod an okay pending uh modification completion within a certain time frame?

Part of it is knowing what that traffic impact study says.

Well, that's that's what we're looking at right now.

So but apparently we don't want to stop their funding by us not wanting to continue.

Um that's where I'm at.

They can close on the property.

There's not a problem with you closing on the property, correct?

Oh, you close on the property.

They they have indicated today is only giving you comfort as far as closing on the property.

You can't close this morning, and that's because I've got a permit in hand council president.

That's why we're here, and that's why we got so many people here.

If we don't have a permit in hand this afternoon or later this morning, our PSA will expire, the bond will fail, and we will have a school.

So respectfully waiting to tomorrow doesn't do us any good either.

So at 1158 hour is our problem.

No, it's not your problem.

You you it's not your problem, Council President.

I would just I'm just explaining to you the practical realities that were constrained with, and that's why I said we submitted a document um last week um to the to the city, it didn't get acted on.

So we were hoping to have this done earlier, and we were working with with staff to do that, but it was never addressed.

I personally went to the city to the came here after I voted here to to see if we could get some movement on it, because I didn't want it to come that sort of a problem.

I was hoping we would have that resolved before we got to this point, but we didn't hear anything until yesterday we responded within 30 minutes with our with our attorney's review, accepting all the red lines and then moving forward.

So I understand it puts the city council in a really precarious position.

And uh I'm just telling you the practical reality.

If I don't close, if I don't have a permit, if you want to help me issue a permit, what permit a TI permit?

A tip tenant improvement permit.

Tenant improvement permit.

Yes, that's all we're asking for.

That's all we really need.

If you want to sign off on us having a tenant improvement permit, and then we can come back and have this uh discussion around what the uh mitigations would be.

That's gravy for us.

That's really all we need is a permit, so we can close because the bank requires us to have a permit to be able to close a deal.

Okay, thank you.

So the building department has plans and the building department's ready to issue a TI permit.

However, uh the traffic impact study hasn't been completed, therefore the permits being held.

Correct.

They part of the building permit process is the traffic impact study and civil plans for any mitigations that um are necessary.

That is part of the building permit process.

So last week when um they requested and resubmitted the traffic impact study, and we said you know there are still deficiencies.

They asked, is there any path we can get the permit issued?

Um, and we I responded back to them that the only way that I could see is if we had an agreement in place that they would undertake to complete that and have all their improvements done prior to the opening of school.

They uh drafted an agreement for that, um, sent that over on Wednesday.

On Thursday, I responded back with that we had were sending that to legal for review, and that there was a number of items that uh from a legal standpoint that I would typically see in an agreement like that, but I did not see in what they had submitted.

They sent over a revised agreement with more of the legalees that was sent to Preston and on Friday.

Uh so I sent that over that came in Thursday afternoon, I believe.

I believe I sent it over to Preston Friday morning in discussing with Preston his review times and that.

Uh we responded back to them on Friday that um, you know, we it had been sent to legal typical review times are about 10 days for an agreement because obviously we have one city attorney for all of the work that has to be done.

Um they um came in um Mr.

Durst came in to City Hall and and spoke to I believe Kirsten and Preston may want to address that.

Uh he came in on Friday at about 4 45 to my office and I spoke to him then.

Uh we've worked diligently since then to have this on the agenda and address comments.

Obviously, that takes Preston's time and their uh other priorities within the city beyond just this.

Um and so this is the mechanism that we were able to come up with to be able to issue the permit.

Um if there's agreement from council that that there's a desire to do that.

Okay.

Uh so any agreement needs to have language in that agreement that full well knowing the applicant has full responsibility for any and all reproof improvements, any and all safety measures, and the city's not waiving anything at this point in time.

I won't sign anything without the coverage and the understanding.

And it's not to be hard or difficult, it's so that we have a good understanding that in 20 days, 30 days, 40 days you go to Occupy and things aren't done, and there's liability potential back to the city.

I don't want to have a crowd here saying open our school.

Why won't you open our school?

And and I just want to make sure that we have clear uh direction forward.

Um, so I don't have a problem trying to figure out something so you can go forward, but I also don't want to have a uh a sentence added that says we we've got an out and we've got protection to open to go open our school without doing the improvements, and I don't want to have a bash between the building department and yourselves uh when it comes to uh two days before opening, and parents are planning on their children being there at school, and the city is the bad cop because we're enforcing the codes or you haven't performed.

I've seen it happen, and I'm just putting it on top of the table.

I I just don't want to have the misunderstanding between groups who know one another and people who know one another, uh and and the awkwardness of of the situation.

So Greg.

Sorry, Commissioner President.

I think Greg was one of the ladder and trees.

Yes, ladder.

Council President, if I may, just as a follow-up to your point, um, I think all those points can be addressed.

Um it's a Daniel's comments there, just to offer some clarification.

Um the city has worked uh diligently with all due respect.

Um we understand that there's a time urgency here, um, but any characterization that somehow this sat on our lap and we were waiting, or or somehow a delay just has to be cleared.

Um, I was told by my paralegal that um on Friday afternoon when the representative from the academy came.

Um there was a urgent demand that we act immediately, and when it was clarified that that can't happen right this second.

Um the response with all the respect was pretty pretty rude and loud and unprofessional, and that's that's not acceptable to the help of the city help you.

This has to be a two-way agreement.

Obviously, we're gonna work as diligently as possible.

Um, but I just want to clarify that uh my primary outside legal counsel is unavailable this week, too.

So we've been kind of short staffed, uh, but I think we've been working as diligently as possible.

Um, and we are here to mitigate the city's interests, and that's our for first and foremost priority, and that just has to be understood during this process.

So I just want to add that um that layer as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Council president, yes, Mr.

Reynolds.

I would like to make a motion that we table this until we have all the correct information and the correct process has been completed.

This this rush is not good for the city.

Uh and it's not where we should be today.

So I would like to make that motion, see if we can get a second on it.

I'm gonna ask that we hold for that because we have somebody at the podium's gonna speak.

So if you'll hang with us here for a moment, yeah.

Council members, uh, my name is Dr.

Greg Wiles, and I'm the CEO of Rabion.

And this is the fourth school that I've been involved with here in Nampa.

I was the principal at West Middle School and came and talked to the city about um or the uh the traffic to add a egress and regress there, and we worked together, and it was a decision of the Naples School District to add sixth grade to the middle school, which brought more parents to drop off kids, and we grew from 900 kids to 1200 within uh two years, and so there was a change, and we worked together and figured that out.

2008, I opened up Lone Star Middle School, and it was um on mid uh Middleton, it was only uh one way.

Um I don't know if you call that two-way, uh, east and west or south and and and north, knowing that we had a culvert there and knowing there was no lights, and the city worked with us in five years later, we're able to get that closed in, and we appreciated that.

Um, and Napa Christian, where I've been serving as superintendent for 13 years on um mid uh midway and also our elementary campus on Orchard.

We worked with the city to get um a school zone there because traffic changed, and I understand that this could potentially change the traffic there, knowing that it was a semiconductor building and they had a lot of employees coming in there, but we appreciate just the opportunity to come in.

And I know Mr.

Durst was and feels a lot of pressure, and I don't want to apologize for him, I'll let him do that to you.

But there is a lot of pressure right now because we have a lot of families that we've been in meeting with.

We had 250 that met with us at the uh public library just the other day.

Um I've never been involved in opening a school from ground zero, and uh there's a lot there.

So we have a lot of pressure uh with these families and with the staff that we've been hiring, and we appreciate you looking at this, uh, and we will do whatever we can do to help with that process.

So thank you for giving me this time.

Yes, sir.

Council.

Um the question mark is what's where we at on the agreement.

Council president, um, we received a draft uh as Daniel noted Friday afternoon, uh, reviewed that, sent red lines back addressing some of these concerns given the kind of the pressure cooker situation uh that this is.

Um I understand there's maybe some visions for Daniel.

Yeah, um that would allow a little more discretion for Daniel, and I I give a lot of deference in this situation to Daniel and lean on his input for this scenario.

And Daniel, I think is gonna speak to that conversation.

So the the agreement uh Mr.

Durst is correct.

They they said they were good with the agreement with just the request to add some discretion on non and we could craft that to be specifically non-safety related concerns um for being able to extend that time frame beyond school opening.

Um if we if that clause is crafted such that um it is not that they have to be specifically non-safety related.

Um that's something that um I think we we can work with if that's the will of the council.

We're throwing around a lot of terms.

We're not giving them occupancy in this agreement, we're giving them a TI permit, correct?

So this this agreement would allow us to issue the permit prior to the building permit, so the tenant improvement permit prior to the um prior to the completion of the traffic impact study and the drawings um for the required improvements.

That would be the typical process is that all of the traffic study would need to be approved, the plans for the improvements would need to be approved before the permit would be issued.

That would be the standard process.

Before the occupancy permit be issued.

No, before the issuance of the building permit.

Thank you.

Is there clarific is is it clear to you the requirements to be able to occupy the building?

Need to have you come to the mic.

Yes, yes, sir.

Um it is, and that's why we were asking for you know we accepted all the changes that the city had.

There was an indemnification language that was added to the agreement, which we agreed to.

And so apologize to the city attorney and to his staff if they came across as abrupt.

I do have a lot of pressure.

I've been working on this for four years.

I'm this close to being able to get this thing done.

And I'm asking for the council to just recognize the value of this as we're willing to work with the city.

We get a single line, the change, an additional line on the agreement, we're ready to have it done.

And that concludes that that could include something that's specific to safety issues needing to be done before any TCO could even be talked about.

We're happy to do that.

And um I don't want my kids are gonna be going to the school.

Yeah, we understand I don't want anybody to get hurt.

I I think what I'm after is contracting.

What are we issues with legal yes, correct?

But we're happy to move forward as it is.

This council stayed an extra 40 minutes at the moment, so thank you.

Um we need to come to grips.

Well, I just so councilman Reynolds.

You've heard the comments.

Are you uh acceptable to a conditional approval at this stage?

Uh I I am not, I still am not comfortable with the information that we uh have received.

Uh I don't understand how you've been working on something for four years, come down to the last day, and you didn't cross all your T's and dot all your I's uh that's it just doesn't make sense to me.

Uh we need to have all the TIS and the stuff in order, just like anybody else would have to do, and then uh come back and get it done.

That's my opinion.

Council President, yes.

I'm just gonna make a motion to get this thing going.

I'll make a motion to approve this pending further, but for right now, let's just get her done.

And so we need a second.

Can I get clarification on the motion?

Yeah, we need we need more information in that motion.

So based on what Daniel says, all they want to do is to do a TI.

Give them the opportunity to proceed.

Any other request agreements signage on modifications would come later down the road, which what they would have to agree to.

They they would have to comply with regarding the permit.

That's what I'm saying.

So the agreement person that you've looked at, can it include or does already include what we need?

I mean, they're asking for a waiver on something in that agreement.

The question is the question we need it or don't need that waiver.

We we have language in there that uh uh essentially allows the city um discretion if they the city engineer um to evaluate the revised TI.

But these are a comment just keep going.

So so the agreement as written currently they have to have the improvements complete prior to the certificate of occupancy or commencement of school operations.

Okay.

If if it's council's desire to allow for some additional flexibility, the motion would need to be to approve the agreement, a signature of the agreement upon legal um uh agreement from the legal on both sides for the um amended clause that would allow for um a TCO or uh to be issued prior to completement uh completing non-safety related traffic improvements as identified um by the traffic study.

Okay, so Daniel's the one that determines that that's his decision.

We're all on the same page with that.

From the legal on both sides for the um amended clause that would allow for um a TCO uh to be issued prior to complement uh completing non-safety related traffic improvements as identified um by the traffic study okay so the one that determines that that's his decision we're all on the same page with that um and so if you if the motion is tailored to just that clause I can work with Chris Yargerson I know Chris um we can we can hammer out that language I believe um again with Daniel's blessing on it which he's well aware of that we've discussed it okay so you're opening your schedule yet today to get this modification done then you're gonna let me know when that agreement's ready to be read yes sir and I and I will adjust that motion what Daniel said second council president yes my other concern is that if for our building department's sake is that every time somebody goes in to apply for a uh TI permit and they don't have the reduction row if they don't like it they come in to council and throw a fit and um get counsel to give them a conditional or something like that.

I don't I don't agree with that um our building department is stuck between a rock and a hard place and and then the political side we have these processes in place for a reason and uh you know everybody needs to follow those processes so I don't like uh the feeling of undermining our building department council president yes just as a response I I think um we're creating bad actors we're not duly oh I'm hearing back feedback I don't I I don't want to be disparaging in our comments to the applicant here I think we're trying to all do our best uh so I think this is a unique circumstance with a school with significant amount of NAMPA students not necessarily uh a commercial fleet operation a profiting this is a public school a public charter school trying to not uh from what I understood from the way it wasn't necessarily they're waiving any safety it's the opportunity to go in and do approvements by receiving the TI permit first and then go about and do all these problem solving issues thereafter not necessarily get rid of the issues it's saying allow us to just move forward with our closure and then but I could be misunderstanding I'm just wanting full clarity that is the the gist of the agreement the challenge obviously is that um as council president bills has expressed and I've expressed it is we are concerned over the timetables we're talking about so um council president call for the vote clerk will call the roll reynolds no jingula yes yes no Rodriguez yes griffin yes motion carries so motion passed uh let's work together to get things done but if you're in here the next time and we've got two hours or we're under crunch because you want to open and you got parents showing up the following morning uh performance is proof in the pudding right so uh we want to be accommodating we want to help the city of Napa's done an excellent job for both private and public uh type projects on that but the squeeze play is not gonna be appreciated in 6070 days when you want to occupy that facility if things aren't done so please just be advised it's not heavy handedness on our part there is a responsibility I've been through plenty of applications in the 30 years on building permits and land development and uh so I will know I've been at the desk of the building department upset um so I've been on both sides of the equation but this one for some reason why it's delayed and now it's seemingly our issue uh we're trying to help so I just want to make sure we're kind of trying to stay on the same page Preston you'll need to let me know you're opening your schedule you'll let me know when we got an agreement sounds like Mr.

Durst needs an agreement in order to go to closing so thank you all in favor to adjourn aye our morning