All righty.

Good evening, everybody.

I call to order the April 14th zoning subcommittee special meeting.

The time is now six thirty-four PM.

Mr.

Clerk, will you please call the role?

Chairman Simpson?

Present.

Alderman Centeno.

Alder Woman Barboza.

Alderman Santiago.

Alderman McNamara.

Here.

Alder Woman Louise Ortiz Luna.

Alderman Barrero.

Alderman Malinowski.

Alderman, Alder Woman Vargas, excuse me.

And Alderman Simpson.

Gibson.

You have a quorum.

Thank you, Mr.

Clerk.

And uh let's see here.

Alderman Santiago.

Make a motion to uh wave the reading of the legal notice.

Thank you.

Is there a second?

Second.

Alrighty.

We have a motion to wave the reading made by Alderman Santiago, seconded by Alderwoman uh Barbosa Holly.

All in favor of waiving the reading, please say aye.

Aye.

All opposed, nay.

The ayes have it.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

So for tonight's meeting, we have a public hearing.

Let's see here.

Please remember to state your name and address for the record and limit your time to three minutes.

The items for this public hearing are item number, thank you, Mr.

Fook.

Our item number 37042, Mark Ulan.

Apologies for the pronunciation is off.

Of Z2 Motorsports LLC, seeking granting of a certificate of location approval to allow state DMV issuance of a motor vehicle dealer and repairer license for the property known as 724 Allen Street.

And item number 37118, uh Pamaran Rembir of New Britain Muffler, LLC seeking granting of certificate of location approval to allow state DMV issue issuance of a motor vehicle repair license for the property known as 46 Washington Street.

On this sign-up sheet here, I've got Parmaran Rembrandt of 46 Washington Street.

Waiting what speaking for you.

So are you speaking to the first time?

Mr.

Chair, we're in public hearing right now.

I would just ask that question are there clarifying questions here?

Well, I didn't I'm attorney chef for side soon.

He wasn't planning on speaking unless we had specific questions.

But we signed the sheet in case there was questions off in.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, he does it doesn't have to, it's optional.

Sure.

All righty.

Next on the list is Mark Ulan.

So I need to go up there?

Yeah, uh, so the format for these meetings are the public hearing is we have the sign up here, and the idea is as the legislative body, uh, this is the time for us to hear sort of the case as to why or why not, see how people feel, and everybody gets three minutes to make whatever pitch they want.

Okay.

It just has to be on these specific items.

Okay.

Sure.

So by all means, three minutes.

Sure.

And you don't have to use the full three minutes, but the floor is yours.

No, that's fine.

Um, so we're Z2 Motorsports.

We uh we're specialty shop.

We do restoration and customization on muscle cars and classic cars.

We were behind the car wash on East Street for a while.

We outgrew that space.

And luckily, the Papa's Dodge, old Papa's Dodge was available.

Um that space had problems, though.

You're probably all aware with the environmental issues, and they couldn't sell it.

I worked with Dominic Papa and worked out an arrangement where I would buy the property by assuming some of the risk for the transfer act.

Um, and so we're in the building now, it's an absolutely perfect space for us.

It's exactly what we need.

We've got shop space, we've got office space, we've got showroom.

Um, and and we're we're really happy to be there.

I mean, we're happy that we could stay in New Britain.

That was really good.

Um in a way, I don't know, you got there's like a little bit of a growing auto thing going on in New Britain because you got the swag and the paddock and us, and we just feel it's a good sp a good space for us.

It's absolutely perfect.

All we're asking is that we're allowed to use it for what it had been used for for years and years and years.

All righty.

Alrighty, and if that's everything, there's uh attorney Donald Chev Shak.

Chef Chek.

Beautiful.

Um good evening.

Um Roy Rambier sitting here in the red shirt.

He's the owner of Minicim Uffler, right around the corner from this building.

He's been the owner for about 16 or 17 years.

He's been taking care of people in this area for a long time.

Some of you may recognize him, he's there every day.

For the 16 years or the 15 years or so, he owned it with a partner.

They owned it together, and a couple years ago they decided to change that arrangement.

They did all the business at the time.

At the time, they I'll use the word neglected, they didn't realize that the repairs license was just in the name of his partner, who he is now split up with.

So now to get his repair license renewed with DMV, he has to go through a new repair license.

All the papers prepared.

I understand Jim Strickland has a has indicated this is zoned.

Nothing is changing.

I mean, it's business as usual.

It's the same, it's the same shop, it's the same bays, it's the same employees.

It's simply now getting repairs license in his name, hopefully, uh, should you grant it, instead of his partner who is now split up.

And he's here if you have any questions for him.

Cool, thank you.

Thank you.

That uh reaches the end of the list of sign-ups.

Do we have callers?

Do we have the ability for that tonight?

Mr.

Chair, there are no callers.

Thank you.

All right.

And uh if there's anybody wishing to approach the podium, I believe now's the time.

Going once, going twice, three times.

Seeing no other speakers, we're gonna close this public hearing and move on to the special meeting.

Um the time is 640.

And so the first item on our agenda is item number 37042.

May I have a motion?

Sure.

Alderman Santiago.

Make a motion to accept.

Sorry, can you just do your microphone?

Thank you.

I make a motion to accept and refer to the full council with the neutral recommendation.

Second.

All right, we have a motion to refer this item back to the council with a neutral recommendation, seconded by Alder Woman Barbosa Hawley.

Uh is there any discussion on the site?

Or I'm sorry, at this time, I would actually like to call Justin Dorsey to read into the record the uh City Plan Commission recommendation.

Mr.

Chair?

Oh, uh Alder Woman Scotch joining us is 641.

Thank you.

Good evening.

Recommendation from the City Plan Commission.

This site has been historically used as a location for automotive sales and repair and continues to be used as such today.

This application supports the expansion of an existing business in the city, which is a smaller scale than what had previously operated on this site.

The City Plan Commission recommends approval of the certificate of location application.

Thank you.

Uh Alderman Centenno.

I just have a question for the gentleman.

You come back up to the Yes.

No, not yeah.

Yeah, you.

Uh this item is for regarding uh Mark Woolen.

Yes.

I just know thank you for uh choosing or staying in New Britain.

How long have you been in uh in business?

In the business.

Uh I've been in for three years now.

Three years.

Okay, and total total of three years.

Did you have a business before the same type of business before this?

I I have a little bit of a different background.

I was automotive out of high school, and I always wanted to have my own shop.

I did that for several I didn't have my own shop, I was getting ready to do that, and I realized I wasn't ready to do it.

I went to CCSU, got a computer science and math degree and worked for 30 years in the in the business world.

And then a few years ago, I realized I always had this thing that I wanted to do.

Okay.

And so now I'm now I'm there.

All right.

Well, thank you so much, and good luck.

That's all that's all I have, Mr.

Jair.

No, I I think that's it.

Actually, uh, before we take action on this item, I believe our planning and development crew may have a presentation for us.

Or not with tonight's.

All righty.

Any other discussion on this item?

So all righty seeing none, all of all in favor of referring this back to the council with a neutral recommendation, please say aye.

Aye.

All opposed, say nay.

The ayes have it.

Okay.

The next item on our agenda is item number 37118.

May I have a motion?

Mr.

Chair.

Alderman Santiago.

I'll make a motion to accept and refer item number 3718 to the full council with a neutral recommendation.

Second.

Second.

We have a motion to refer this back to the council with a neutral recommendation made by Alderman Santiago, seconded by Alder Woman Barbosa Holly.

And at this time, I'd like to welcome back Justin Dorsey for the city plans recommendation.

City Plan Commission's recommendation.

Well, again, the proposal is a change of ownership to an existing non-conforming automotive repair garage.

The site has been occupied by an auto repair use since at least 1967.

The City Plan Commission recommend recommends approval of the certificate of location application.

Thank you.

And any discussion on this item.

Yes, I have a question.

Um I guess I can ask this.

What would prevent what would prevent him from getting the license?

Other than uh our approval of the location, but it that would be it.

I mean, seeing that he's uh dissolving a partnership.

I don't know if there'd be anything involved in that.

Ultimately at this point, Alder Woman, it's it's up to the council.

You know, that's the last step in this.

Okay.

You know, so one it's it's the the way the state statute requires.

So any time that somebody is not listed on the license, even if it's the same exact business like this has been, it's been a minor key since uh 1983 when they got first city approval, you know.

So it's just a formality at this point.

So once the council approves it, he's golden.

Pretty much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other discussion on this item?

All righty.

All in favor of referring this back to the council with a mutual recommendation, please say aye.

All right.

All opposed, nay.

The eyes have it.

Thank you.

Yes.

Now, planning and development.

I believe the time to shine is now.

All righty.

Uh to our friends in the audience here, this has concluded our part of the business.

The uh official uh approval will come at the next regular council meeting, um, provided this gets processed orderly.

We've had some craziness in City Hall, but we appreciate you guys being here.

So if you want to hang out for the meeting, by all means, you're welcome, but feel no obligation.

Thank you for your time and attention as well.

Of course.

Thank you.

Take care now.

Thank you.

Thanks.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Chair and Council members, for having us here tonight.

Uh, seeing I believe this is the first time this body has met since uh the elections in November.

Um, we figured now is a good time for just a refresher for those uh alder persons returning and a introduction to zoning changes for uh any new alder persons.

Um as you'll see uh in Jeff's presentation, which has been passed out in front of you instead of an actual presentation.

Um there are some zoning changes that will be coming that are required uh by state statutes with the with the passage of the housing bill.

Um so we figure we get the ball rolling with this.

Um this is similar to again if you were on the last council body uh presentation that they did in the beginning of that term, um, but just with some minor updates, and then again just to uh introduce everybody to how the zoning process for the city works.

So uh with that, I'll turn it over to Jeff Cormier, our city planner.

Uh Alder Woman Delarnia.

I'm sorry, I just have a quick question.

What happened to item number three?

It was removed.

Okay.

I'm talking about item number three on our agenda here.

Uh basically they I was made aware they didn't actually have the application portion of it completed.

So for tonight, I think it's gonna remain as unfinished business.

Okay.

Because we can't actually help complete that part of that of the process.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

That's the cliff notes version I got.

All right.

All right, good evening, counselors.

My name's Jeff Cormier.

I'm the city planner.

For those of you that don't know me, I started with the city in uh 2022.

I have about 20 years land use planning experience in the state, also working for a couple different municipalities in the past.

And I have a presentation for you that'll sort of introduce you each year as a zoning authority for the city.

So New Britain is one of a handful of towns or cities in Connecticut where the council is the zoning authority.

And so uh this will give you a good background for planning and zoning of the different types of petitions that you're gonna see come before you.

So the overview slide is just really gonna show you uh what I'm gonna get to is the interaction of all the different uh boards and commissions and the applications.

So if you go to the Department of Planning and Development slide, this just shows you the overview of our department.

Justin Dorsey is here, he's the director of the Department of Planning and Development.

Uh I'm under the city plan area, and as city plan, we support and staff uh all the commissions that you see on the left.

So City Plan Commission, Zoning Board of Appeals, Historic Preservation Commission, and Conservation Commission.

What you're seeing listed underneath are the different responsibilities or applications that those boards and commissions deal with.

Uh on the bottom right is sort of grayed out.

That's the commission on community and neighborhood development, C C N D.

That's under community development and not something that I'm going to talk about tonight, but that's another uh commission that is staffed by our department.

So the next slide, plan of conservation and development.

So every town in Connecticut is required to have what's known as a plan of conservation and development.

That is a 10-year plan that provides land use policies, goals for development, and supposed to really guide development over a 10-year period.

Uh it's required by statute.

We have to update it every 10 years.

If a town fails to update theirs or if they don't have one, you're ineligible for state grants and discretionary funding.

So there's actual little teeth to that.

And just think of the plan of conservation development as really the blueprint and sort of focus, uh, sort of broad focus of development in the city.

So if you look at the bottom right, that's what's known really as the future land use plan.

It's just uh sort of taking those land use overall broad land use policies and putting them on the map of the city.

As you see in the bottom left, you have a live sustained policy focus area going up to grow innovate.

That's really areas that are more preservation focused with land use policies and goals moving to what you would know as the downtown, the central business district as sort of a grow innovate, that's a very vibrant area.

So it's just showing the preservation of you know lower density single family into the land use policies that are guided towards you know transition, vibrancy toward your downtown.

So if you and just noting that our most recent POCD was adopted in 2021, so we don't have to do another until 2031.

On the next slide, zoning.

So if you think of uh the plan of conservation and development as your general guide and blueprint for the city, zoning is really the implementation tool.

So what you see there is the zoning map for the city.

Uh every town has a zoning map, it's divided into different districts.

So if you look at the sort of lighter colored orange or orange, you have S districts, the A districts, those are generally uh residential districts.

You have the B districts, which are business, I is industrial, and then we have some mixed use districts in there that actually allow for both types of uses.

Uh TOD, transit oriented development districts, uh B3 sort of allows for mixed uses.

But generally, uh zoning regulations are the framework and the guidelines for how you're implementing your plan of conservation and development.

And they're supposed to be, you know, um, and and really to create equity with the standards within every zoning district.

So everyone's operating under the same guidelines and standards with whatever district you're in.

So again, you think of the POCD overarching uh development guide, zoning is really the implementation tool of how you get there.

The next slide, land use boards and commissions, duties and responsibilities.

So by the Connecticut General Statutes, towns you know typically have a planning commission, a zoning board of appeals, and a zoning commission.

So you, as the council are the zoning commission for the city.

Uh, and under there on the next slide, I'll get into some of the petitions that you that you're gonna see and how where those go, how you refer those and what comes back to you.

Uh generally it's zoning text amendments, map amendments, the automotive site location approval that you saw a couple tonight.

Um, but generally, when you act as that, I think the question of you know, what is that?

You're acting as an arm of the Department of Motor Vehicles for approving a site to make sure it's suitable for uh auto repair or auto sales establishment.

The ones you saw tonight were basically ones that have existed for years, so it's not really changing the use, the use has been there.

Um, but that's what that is.

Um under PZH, generally, there you might deal with resolutions for selling property, buying property, leasing property, or abandoning roads, having new roads.

Um that's also is something I'll get on the next slide, how that gets referred to city plan commission for a report.

Then you just see the other commissions, these are land use commissions that uh we deal with under city plan.

The zoning board of appeals, uh their applications are variants.

That's if someone wants to do something in a district that isn't permitted, or they they need an exception or a waiver of a standard, they have to go to ZBA.

Special exceptions are are basically conditional use applications.

Someone goes there, if they if there is a use they want to do that requires that type of application, it has to meet certain set standards in the zoning ordinances already.

Um and then under city plan, city plan by statute is the one who prepares the plan of conservation and development.

So they're they're uh responsible for prep for preparing that plan.

They also have applications for subdivisions.

Subdivision is when you're creating new buildable lots or you're dividing property into more than three parcels for a buildable purpose.

Uh, those applications have to go to city plan commission.

City Plan Commission is also the inland wetlands commission for the city.

And then those underneath that are the reviews that they do, which on the next slide, you'll see types of zoning applications and petitions.

So for you, common council, the zoning authority.

The bottom right, you have zoning text amendments and map amendments, and the arrows you're seeing are referrals from council from city plan.

So those are you receive a zoning amendment to change the text or a map, you receive it, you refer it to city plan, they send you back a recommendation.

Uh that's required by statutes.

Also the site location approval, uh, as you did, you report refer it to city plan, and then they send you back a recommendation.

Also on any property sale, lease purchase, things of that nature.

That's all under 824 of the uh of the statutes and 1922 of the ordinances.

And generally, when city plan commission sends you something back, they're looking at it from a land use perspective.

So they're looking at the use or its compatibility with zoning and to make sure that whatever is being proposed is not in conflict with the plan of conservation and development.

Uh other things like zoning board of appeals, every application that goes before ZBA is also referred to city plan, and they uh they send a recommendation to zoning board.

Um subdivisions and wetlands are just handled under city plan commission.

So what you're really getting from this slide is that city plan commission refer is uh anything really land use related, they send you a recommendation that's to show how it's in context with the plan of conservation and development.

Uh the next slide, types of zoning petitions.

So this is really just giving you an example of the types of things that you would see.

The first one is a text, a zoning text amendment, and that's exactly what it sounds like.

It's it's a petition to change the wording of the zoning ordinances themselves.

The reason that you would see petitions, sometimes uh we would submit them to you because we're trying to modernize standards and we're trying to uh um address uh new state law changes that you're gonna see.

Uh, and also implement the POCD.

You might see outside applicants also submitting those if there's something they want.

Um, but generally text amendments are just a change of the wording.

Uh boundary change, you're seeing a zoning map boundary right there.

Uh so if someone wanted to change the the zoning boundaries uh or change a zone altogether, that would be under a map change, also the same process.

You'd get it, refer it to city plan, they send you back a recommendation.

And generally zoning boundary map changes are done for a couple reasons.

Um what you're seeing there on Allen Street, uh, there's a split zone parcel identified.

So zoning map lines don't always zoning boundary lines don't always coincide with the property line.

In that example, you had a property that was called split zone, meaning the person has certain rights or uses they can do on one half and not the other half.

Generally, you don't want to have that because then you're uh creating impediments for a business or a property owner who lives there, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to have a property that's split zoned in most cases.

So that was an example of that.

And then you see with spot zone, that's one on Allen Street, that's literally a one parcel has its own zone.

And uh those are discouraged, especially by case law, because essentially, through through case law, they've ruled that if you have a lot of spot zones, you're essentially granting variances or exceptions to that one property that nobody else in the surrounding vicinity uh has.

So if we go through and we find that spot zones on the zoning map, we would file a petition to change those to something that makes more sense.

Uh same with split zones.

So that's really the reason you might see some of these petitions, or you might see someone just submitting something on their own behalf.

On the right, you see Mount Pleasant.

That's a little bit of a different zone.

That's a special residential design district.

So that is that's a uh master plan zone, meaning that when the housing authority or and the developer, when they submitted that application, or when that application came before you, they had to not just show you a boundary they wanted to change, uh, they had to submit a whole site plan showing you exactly how things are gonna be.

And you when you approve it, you're approving that site plan.

So if they deviate from that, they actually have to come back to you for another zone change application.

So that special residential design district in the A Road, if you guys are familiar with that, 321 Ellis Street, it's an adaptive reuse of underutilized industrial buildings.

That's a similar type district where they're actually coming to you with a full site plan where you have a lot more uh discretion over what's going on in that site plan.

So those are kind of the three uh petitions you would see.

I'll also just tell you that over the past couple years that we you know we've we've come up with a lot of zoning map changes and zoning text amendments, and that's really because the last uh sort of comprehensive revision to our zoning ordinances was done in 1966.

And so the original zoning ordinances for the city were adopted in 1925.

That went up until 1966 when there's a complete redo.

That's when you get so far, standards change, criteria change, uh, state law changes, and it requires you to go through and say, you know what, we need to modernize these and bring these up to uh up to modern standards and address a lot of things.

And so that was done in 1966, and so you know, if we're bringing you something, normally that's to address new state laws or or um create modern standards that didn't exist.

Some of you might know like the impervious coverage, drainage.

We didn't have a lot of those standards, uh, so we went to adopt some of those to make sure we're in line with what you know other towns are are adopting as well.

So the next slide, uh this was the House Bill at the eight 805.

It was passed at the legislative session by the state uh last October, I believe.

So it's now public act 25-1.

And this is a big bill, it's about a hundred pages.

There's a lot of things in it.

Uh, the things that we we've looked through it, we've also we're also working with Crog, the our regional planning agency, the capital region to um our capital region planning agency that we're a member of.

And uh we're going through, they're working with all their member municipalities, but there are certain changes that are gonna take effect July 1st that we need to address in our zoning ordinances.

So we'll we're gonna be back before you to try and do that.

The ones outlined in red, zoning ordinance amendments, uh passed in that law was basically that this this uh new thing called transit community middle housing, which is defined as uh two to nine units, two to nine residential units is basically permitted by right or by what's called summary summary review on any lot that is zoned commercial or mixed use.

So for us, that means we need to go through our zoning ordinances, see what allows for commercial and mixed use, and now we need to make sure we're allowing for these two to nine units.

Um and then we also have to create a new process that's they're referring to it as a summary review process.

So we're gonna need to create a new sort of approval process uh called summary review that allows these uh the appropriate procedure to go through that will require no public hearing or anything else because that's what's required by state law.

So that's one thing that we're trying to address and that we need to work pretty quickly on.

The other thing you'll note in here, a couple bullets down.

Um there are parking requirements for every use in the zoning ordinances.

As an example, if you have a single family house, you're required to provide two parking spaces on site for that.

It also depends on what district you're located in.

Different districts have different parking requirements, different uses have different parking requirements.

Uh something passed in the law is that for residential developments having 16 or less units, we cannot deny it based on parking.

So there is no parking requirement.

So we need to figure out how that gets worked into our zoning ordinances and how that gets addressed under a summary review process.

So you can still have certain criteria and standards it has to meet, but you can't uh reject or deny a project if it doesn't meet a parking requirement for those speci that specific type of use.

Um there are provisions that allow the city to create a maximum of two what's called conservation and traffic to mitigation districts where you can still require parking.

Uh, and there's criteria over how big they can be of the land mass and stuff.

But generally, if there's a couple areas, you know, you really think you know what we we need a parking requirement here.

You can do it in two areas, which can't be greater than my calculation about half a square mile, because that's four percent of the land area of the city.

So there's things in there we need to address pretty quickly.

Those are the things we're likely going to be coming back to you for fairly soon.

Other things on here, just for your knowledge, uh that are more longer term.

As part of the law that passed, we're gonna be required to prepare a housing growth plan every five years.

The first one has to be adopted by June 1st, 2028.

And so, and there's things under there that we're gonna have to uh the plan components I've identified, but there's things we're gonna have to address.

It's very similar to if you guys remember the affordable housing plans that were passed a couple years ago, kind of similar to that, but it's called the housing growth plan, and we're gonna have to uh go through a process to approve that as well.

There's some other things in there about being a transit-oriented transit-oriented community, which we will be eligible for because we have TOD districts around the fast track stations that may lead to uh future funding opportunities uh for private developers or us.

So those are things we need to look into and address.

And then there's housing housing growth program incentives that also longer term uh we'll we'll need to look into and address.

This was really just to kind of bring this before you introduce you to some of the things that are going on statewide.

The last slide was land use commissioner training.

Uh this was passed in 2021.

This requires uh anyone on a zoning commission, uh planning commission or zoning board of appeals, you're required by state law or statute to complete four hours of training.

That training is generally webinars or seminars if you wanted to go to.

We actually have a checklist that needs to be updated because we first did it in 2022.

Um, but we have links to all different webinars people can watch.

They're on affordable housing, land use, decision making, stuff like that.

Uh we can certainly share with you.

But there is for any land use commissioner, there's a certain training requirement.

Um that's really all the stuff I wanted to to address with you.

Um, introduce you to it, and if there's any questions you have, I'm happy to answer them.

All right.

And thank you.

Thank you for your time.

I appreciate it.

Any any questions on our all the women delernia?

Comment.

Um thank you.

But I gotta tell you, I feel like I'm sitting in my college professor's auditorium.

It just kind of went, well, now I gotta go home and crack the books.

That was a quick, quick presentation, but I do thank you for it, and I'm gonna try to study it.

Thank you.

Any others?

All the missed antenna.

Um I'm sorry, Mr.

Corbin.

Thank you for uh all the women delonias said thank you for coming out.

And I feel the same way.

I got as far as writing your name down.

But anyway, no.

But the only thing that's that sticks out the the last one was uh the under the housing growth planning.

Is there is it broken uh certain percent has to be single family?

So the housing growth planning, that's gonna be a whole separate plan that we as the city need to develop.

And uh it's go it has to address, it's not really like specific to single family, it's gonna be how are we addressing affordable housing, how are we providing housing options under the plan components?

Um it has to actually do those things.

Our plan is gonna have to address infrastructure improvements to support existing units, uh, opportunities for no new affordable housing, uh rehab of existing affordable housing.

So there's going to be components of that plan that we need to address not specific to single family.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um, you know, uh reminiscations or anything that we have to do.

So I believe that when they pass the law, there are some, uh Justin could speak about it as well, but there are some, if you look under how thing housing growth program incentives, those are kind of the incentives that are listed in the uh act.

So it was grants and aid to pay for improvement expansion of infrastructure.

Uh it was some potential school project reimbursement, but we have to, in order to get to that, we have to be, we have to have a housing growth plan.

We have to, and then either be designated a transit-oriented community or adopted a Connecticut municipal development authority district, which we are we will certainly qualify for those.

There's some things we have to do to get there.

Um in terms of the housing growth plan itself that we need to prepare, there's not funding for that.

Uh, we're just gonna have to do that sort of like a plan of conservation development.

Just to speak further on that.

So that will be not this one that you guys are about to get from the mayor uh tomorrow night, but next year's budget, we will have to factor that in to our next year's budget that we do in um April of 2027, because we have to get it done by 2028.

So we'll have to you know I say pennies, but you know, figure like 25, 30,000 dollars for consultant, but that's a next year's budget.

Right.

And I I just like to add as as we roll through this process, this is not going to happen in one big push.

This is definitely going to happen, not exactly in piecemeal, but piece by piece.

So we'll see text amendments, we'll see boundary amendments, we'll see just these different things that the body can adopt in order to help make sense of this housing growth plan.

In addition to that, we have to submit this to OPM by six one twenty-eight.

I I it please somebody fact check me if I'm wrong here, but we have to have this plan sort somewhat adopted by January first.

So we have to basically have this plan done, put a bow on it, and submit it to OPM by June first.

But there are things in between that where this body us specifically will have to address them.

I don't know what it'll look like, but having this presentation, having this orientation is sort of the first moment to go, oh, zoning is in fact hard.

Um so I appreciate you guys' time here.

And there's no other speakers.

Is there a motion to adjourn?

Uh Chair, just real quick, not really a desoning, but I just want to say here I sent you uh all the email about the public hearing on uh April 21st in the one for NAA, the one that starts at seven o'clock.

I had a typo that said it's Wednesday the twenty-first, that is Tuesday the twenty-first, so it's seven o'clock on Tuesday for NAA, which is just a simple thing the state makes us do.

Nobody comes and speaks on that, and then 710 is the CDBG one.

So just wanted to clarify that.

Thank you for the reminder.

Motion to adjourn.

Seconded by Alderman Barrero.

All in favor of adjourning, please say aye.

Aye.

All opposed, nay.

The ayes have it.

We adjourn.

The time is 708.

Have a good night, everybody.