Um, okay, okay, okay.

No, it's just the one.

Oh, okay.

Hello, everybody.

Um, welcome to tonight's special meeting for compensation.

And the time is now six.

Oh, six.

Mr.

Clerk, will you please call the roll?

Alder Woman Scott.

And here.

And also seated, we have Alderman Borrero.

So you have a quorum.

Okay, thank you.

Um, I will open up the floor for any members to discuss salaries, um, for appointed and elected officials today.

So is there anyone here?

Any of us that would like to discuss.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Yes.

Um well, any of the discussing, aren't we discussing council clerk as well?

Yeah, any of the compensation.

Do you have any um anything that you have to say about it?

Or we can have like a discussion about it now.

Yeah, I mean, I think we should discuss like that's what I said.

I wanted to start with um the registrars.

Um, they're asking for an increase, and the discussion should be around.

No one else asked for an increase this time, so um uh other than a council clerk.

Yeah.

Um, okay, let me see.

I'm looking at referring to my notes.

Um I think currently both the registrars are receiving around seventy, seventy thousand seventy-one thousand annually.

Um, and they're asking for an increase due to state election mandates and the addition of early voting.

And um they're stating that your responsibilities have increased um extensively.

They both hold f full-time positions.

Um that being said, um it's hard to especially keeping our taxpayers in mind, it's hard to justify an increase, but I I I myself have done some research and I looked at other cities in comparison to see what they are earning.

Um and again they've all been asked to um add to their uh duties which I I do think um the additional duties, um I do think they have seen um an increase in their workload.

I would not be opposed to a small increase keeping taxpayers in mind of maybe three percent.

Anyone else have any comments about Obama?

Um I would say we should go for a dollar rather than the three percent.

What explain that?

A dollar increase.

Um, you know, the misuse of funds from the last administration has put us all in a bind, and um no, not to take it out on the um individuals looking for a raise, but as you said, we have to keep our taxpayers in mind, and um if we are going to give out anything, I think a dollar would be sufficient for the time being, and then once we get things in order, we can revisit and increase, but I think we should remain neutral um because no one else is asking for a raise.

And this term everyone's workload will be increasing.

So I think a dollar is and clear.

When does the increase come into effect in the next after the next um is it after the next election?

Yeah, yeah, it's the next election.

It always yeah, so i i i my three percent would be roughly thirty, five hundred on their current salary, I believe.

Does that make sense to you?

Yeah, I think right now um with the level of corruption that we've seen here um in our town.

Um I don't know, can I say point of order?

I I I can we not go there.

Let's it's discuss what's going anywhere later.

Let's discuss the the matter at hand.

Well I'm I'm actually the chair right now, so I'm gonna ask for you to let me speak now.

Okay.

Um so with the level of corruption that we've had here in the city, um, that there we are in a bind right now financially.

Um we've seen all of our residents come out and have concerns about the money that we have for schooling and education and all these things, and we're just doing the best that we can.

And I said this before, as a single mom, I can I get it when you don't have enough money to pay for things.

You have to be creative.

You have to um do what you can in that moment, and this is what we can do in this moment right now.

I I do appr I I think that you need to get creative, like I have some suggestions maybe to help you out during election time because I do appreciate you guys during election time, but this is we're in a situation right now and we all have to pull together as a community and work together to find creative ways to still handle things as we need to with the funds that we have available to us, and that's just something you know that you learn in life sometimes, and we all have to.

Are we able to ask them questions or no, no?

No, not at all.

No, and this is actually gonna go to um the AFL administration, finance and law.

I mean, first it's gonna go to council on Wednesday, then it's gonna go to AFL, and then it's um gonna be go back to full council again before it's actually passed, but for now we're I think you know, Wilma and I are recommendation.

Um, I'm with her on just giving the small amount because we just don't have it right now.

We have what we have, you know, and we're gonna have to work with that the best that we can.

So is there any other comments?

Uh perhaps I'm just reviewing some of the influence.

Um full well, full council on Wednesday and then AFL.

And then I mean, I wish that we could give everyone a raise if we could, but we just don't have it.

Well, I agree we're trying to keep keep a check on the budget.

Um I believe they asked for substantially more.

And I understand why others did not ask for increases, but we're just talking about two individuals in a registrar's office.

Um they work a full schedule.

They have been given additional responsibilities, including training, I believe.

Um, so I I would be for a small increase, but again, there's um, that's just my vote.

And I'm outnumbered.

And I understand what you're saying.

We did give a raise last year too, with all due respect.

Um, and you know, we're just able to do what we can now.

Um that's just what we have.

You know, and hopefully we'll be able to get caught up and get everybody caught up and do better in the future, right?

Once we get past the cleaning up that we're doing here in the setting.

So any more comments?

No other comments.

Should we just call the question then?

Yeah.

So we're we're gonna um uh huh.

No, we call to question.

Can I do that to call the question?

Oh, I don't we don't have to?

No.

We do you have a motion on the table, I guess is the question.

No, so you guys didn't have a motion to recommend or have any kind of probably should start there then with a motion.

Do we have a motion to make a motion to make a motion to vote on the one dollar increase?

And then okay.

So we do have a motion to vote.

I would sure.

Yes.

I believe you need to make a motion, so if all the members are here want to make a motion.

Okay, it needs to hold on, and then it would be a stuck here if there's no second, then we make another motion to keep it the same, but we should have a motion and then we maybe vote on that to recommend that ask for that to council.

Make a motion to so you should have some motion before you know we pass it.

I'm gonna make a motion to uh add a three percent increase for the register's office.

Three percent, three percent.

Um, she made a motion for um one dollar increase.

Alder woman and Barbosa.

Alright, so there's been a motion made by Alder Woman Delernia.

So is there a second?

Okay.

So then fails, so is there another motion?

Well, Alderman Barbosa made a motion for a one dollar increase.

Now you use second, so I'll second it, I guess.

So no one else is second.

Yeah, so I'm seconding.

And did you make any motions for any other positions?

I'm sorry, I came in.

No.

Okay.

So right now it's a dollar for the registrars.

And it's going.

Madam Chair.

As a non-voting member of the committee, uh have all the positions been discussed and apologize for waiting.

Okay.

Uh have all the positions been discussed and uh referred back to the council yet?

Or just the the registrars?

Just the registers.

Nobody else um asked for any increase this time.

Okay.

So yes.

Um I think the resolution that was sent for the special meeting did have uh increase of the clerk of committees.

If I'm correct, we're not on clerk of committees, we're talking about registrants.

No, it's the whole you're talking about the whole thing in general, or you just going by each other.

We want to have some conversation on this one or the next one.

So just you're going by each on each um correct.

Thank you.

Yeah.

So we have a second.

A second.

All in favor, all right.

Hi.

So the motion.

Passes to go to um administration, finance, and law.

And so do we have do we need to go over the other ones that are not getting anything?

They don't want anything.

They're not requesting.

Are they items on your agenda?

I don't have an agenda.

Okay.

I have um, so you only need to make a motion on the items that you're moving, you know, recommending some time of increase.

Yeah.

So if there's any other if there's no other positions that you're recommending an increase, then you can move move on.

Yeah.

No.

Okay.

I don't have that information here.

Um, we don't we don't we don't have anything on the agenda.

I thought it was I thought we were here to discuss those two positions.

That's what basically for whoever wants to ask for you to talk about any any one of them.

Right.

But the two that did ask required by the committees and so we we discussed um the registras.

Now we should move on to um clerk of committees for discussion.

Yes, yeah.

So yes, I'm I'm I'm asked co- I'm representing the court of council.

I mean, I'm representing the council.

I did request the thirty thousand dollars, so it would be uh uh eighteen thousand increase from the previous twelve thousand that was in there originally for eighteen thousand for the council to have a clerk of committees.

So the reasons why I did was we saw that um the clerk of committees could come in during the daytime and assist with the whoever we hire as administrator council on during the daytime work.

No, no, I can't make the motion.

I'm just required.

I'm I'm just explaining.

Yeah, you're just explaining the council.

Yeah.

So you can so I have some well I wanted to say something about that.

No, that's fine.

I think um, so I didn't even have that here on my list.

And a part of the reason why I am in favor for this, um, is because the council needs support with the work that we're doing so that we can serve the community better.

It is we we do need assistance with um doing research, um, making sure that we have the agenda for this meeting tonight.

Um, all these things we do need, we need staff, and if you research and look around at the other cities and towns in Connecticut, other cities and towns do have staff and people that help them out.

Um, I want to be able to serve the people the best that I can, and I could do that better with us having more staff available to help us here on the council.

Right now, we currently do not have a staff.

So it's very difficult to not have someone who's um putting our agenda together, getting our petitions together, helping out with the making sure the resolutions are in place, all of that.

Um so this is definitely a necessity so that we can service our communities better.

Point of information.

I assume that's what you came to discuss.

And I might add this is an item in the adopted budget of uh May 28th.

Uh that position, I believe, as I recall, looking at the budget.

Right.

Right, it'll be a new position, basically.

No, it'll be the same position, just a increase in pay and and more um more jobs more work for them to do.

So it'll still be the same clerk of committees, but it was that he or she would be still doing the the work of the and nighttime represent you know, doing the council meetings, and then also having days in the daytime to uh assist with the administrative as this point, as you can see, we have no one in that office right now.

We need it um all of the people on the council for the most part work full-time jobs and we do this basically volunteer, so we do need the help to make sure that you know we we are following the ordinance and the charter and making sure that we're getting the help that we need to help everyone else.

Yes, so we're being asked to increase clerk of committees pay by three times more than what he's currently making.

I haven't seen a job spec for clerk of committees.

I haven't seen uh new job spec with the new d duties for clerk of committees, and you want me to approve a nineteen thousand dollar increase.

I don't know what the hours are per week, per month, per year.

Um, it's an awful large increase, and we just we just uh denied a small three percent for our registrers, and we're asking for a hundred and seventy-five percent increase for the clerk of committees.

Seems like an awful large ask.

Well, is it yeah, yeah, go ahead.

So it's a point of position, it's not uh, you know, a city hall decision is to coin it.

But the thing is we needed to prove the money so we could get the the system basically the information you're asking for because now I would have to submit it to HR to have them write something up because again the person still have to go through a process.

So we still have we can't just put something in place without having some money, funding still put in it.

So this is where I'm asking for the 18 the eighteen thousand increase because it will be again more days during a week on a daytime aspect to assist with the administrator.

Whereas we're not I'm not I'm not saying one day a week, obviously, we're talking about at least three days of the week, you know, maybe five hours a day or depending on how we work with it for the administrative.

Because again, I've seen as as an as a councilman for the past three terms, even for example today.

We have no one that's sitting in that that office right now because we don't have administrator in there right now, and we don't have you know, and so this is where we're trying to fit that gap in case.

So we have cross sort of for instance this Kirk of Committees will be getting cross-trained to have the same inform same um training as with administrator would have.

So they were both basically we'd be getting trained at the same time 'cause we're still in the process of hiring one now, which I just came from interviewing.

Um so that this person would be able to in the days that the uh administrator is not in for for instance, sick day or uh vacation, we have someone that's gonna be able to take that place, sit there and actually do the work while uh individuals not there, but I almost feel like we're working backwards.

Usually you have the job spec and the job duties and you know what it it pertains uh uh to uh we're approving an amount and then putting in the duties.

That sounds good.

That's how it's done.

That's how it's done.

You gotta first have the funds to be able to advertise it.

It works with any organization.

You if you you before you can create the position you gotta make sure that you have the funding to fill in that position.

I I get that, but I I just I not understanding what the true responsibilities would be.

I mean, are we talking five hours a day?

Are we talking, you know, is it twenty hours a week?

Uh um and is it possible maybe to increase it by less than nineteen thousand and um I I know you've been having difficulties filling the other position.

I mean, uh is it better with if we increase that job um salary, maybe get more um applicants in.

I I had asked the question before the same thing.

Um again, some of the things that uh that the administrator doesn't have that the previous one had was basically union protection.

They had uh a lot more things.

There were often more I I guess, I understand the sixty thousand, but we did have applicants come in, like for instance we have some now.

It's just the point of of getting the right fit for that decision because again, it's the self driven, right?

They are they're basically monitoring and doing all agendas, which again you see notice that these past six months that we without one having no one there, at least if this way if we have the clerk of committees there, then we would have we would never be in this predicament again.

And so I don't understand what you're saying about the hours cut down and but again if you're saying what, put a thousand more, ten thousand I think that wouldn't really make a difference of the administrator.

Um I think it'd be more appealings for the than the clerk of committees because even previous times of that where we had individuals that didn't really take this job serious.

Um didn't come in multiple times.

Uh, you know, the administrator had to take their had to come in and do their job uh multiple times.

So I'm trying to get something so that we have a serious position here that then this person comes in and will take it seriously and not have it as just uh, you know, a little extra money in their in their pockets kind of.

So I well, I have a question.

I isn't the uh council administrator supposed to be non partisan.

Yes.

And is the clerk of committees considered non nonpartisan?

Correct.

I I don't I don't necessarily think that's true.

Um I mean he was appointed.

Correct.

So if you're appointed and you're appointed by the majority on a council, that's not necessarily nonpartisan.

And you're having a partisan position work with a nonpartisan position, I have a problem with that.

Well, previous before this clerk of committees, actually the m individual was independent prior to this one.

So there was um considerations I I how we're how were the how how was that position appo it wasn't appointed?

It was appointed correctly, but again, uh is the majority of who was there, 'cause again it you could be I guess the person was opposed before, but was this one they actually was agreed to one before he stepped down.

Um again it's a I mean, I I'm just trying to make the trying to put somebody in that a body inside there besides just the one.

Because again, if like m older women said, if you go to every other city, there's m there's you have assistant for every single council member.

You have you have there's so many attributes that the the council have in and and benefits from other cities that we don't have in our council.

We don't have a we don't have a corporate council s individual separate one.

There's other cities that do.

We don't have uh we don't have the I'm I'm just trying to fit a seat so that way we we actually have some bodies inside our office.

And so having just one individual there too, i it makes no like makes it on I mean for for fifteen individuals it makes no um sense, I'll be honest.

It now I I understand what you're saying, but for all my concerns that I mentioned, I would have to disagree with with such a large increase if I could just add through you madam chair to the members of the compensation committee this is a uh gives the council a uh 150% FTE a full-time uh council administrator and a clerk and the salary as proposed and adopted is commensurate with the hours that that person will uh will put in and and the uh um I we've done a survey of comparable cities and towns with mayor council forms of government and the resources for every comparable city I looked at for the council uh are substantially more and uh the way things proceeding the council budget actually is saving uh is a savings this year so I I think we we're getting uh a half time commensurate hours for the pay and and the full time to assist every member that every member of the council for our petitions for resolutions and we we it's uh uh and uh hopefully we're about to on board that council administrator and I think we'd all benefit because it's made very clear the job is nonpartisan and that person or person serve all fifteen all the people I agree other than thank you um I'm sorry um I I don't agree though that it's not partisan um and similar to what we discussed for the registras I did research as well and we denied a small increase for them but we're looking for nineteen thousand dollars for the council clerk I I just can't I I uh my conscience can't agree to it.

So thank you.

Can I make a motion?

I make a motion to increase the clerk of committees from twelve thousand to thirty thousand um anywhere else you go for a part-time job you're not even making thirty thousand you're making about you're making more than thirty thousand dollars and this position here entails a lot of responsibility and not just that but it also assists the new person that's going to be coming in as the full time um employee um so I think thirty thousand is an attractive price and we know it's pretty cheap because I'm not gonna work a part time job for thirty thousand dollars and let alone for twelve you know I think we're we're stealing that we're robbing that individual that twelve thousand dollars I'm sorry but um I make that motion to increase from twelve thousand to thirty thousand for the um clerical committees for second um I think the the council um really needs to make sure that we have our staff um in place so that we can because everybody will and everybody's gonna benefit from this um including the people the people that live here in New Britain will benefit from this so I am definitely for having two staff um that will be knowledgeable to help so that we can have a better running council it's for everybody it's for both parties for all three parties independent republican and democrats for everybody so I think is there a second this will get two seconds I second yeah so all in favor?

Nay aye and motion passes and do we have a motion to adjourn?

Second and the time is um 6 36 and we will see you for the AFL meeting in a couple of minutes.

Thank you so much.000.

And public services.

Time is now six forty-five.

Mr.

Clerk, will you please call the roll?

Alderman Santano.

Present.

Alderwoman Maldonado.

Alderwoman Ortiz Luna.

Alderman McNamara.

Here?

Alderman Santiago.

What is it?

Alderman Barrero.

Alderwoman Delirnia.

Alderman Gibson.

Alderman Smedley.

And we also have seated Alderwoman Scott.

Here.

Right.

Did I miss anybody?

No.

And we don't have anyone signed up to speak, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

So that does that, but I still have to call.

Will you please uh Mr.

Clerk will you please uh read into the record the publishing of the legal notice, Mr.

Chair?

Uh Alderman Santiago.

I make a motion to waive the reading of the legal notice.

Motion made to waive the reading of the legal notice.

All in favor?

Aye.

Motion pass nays.

All motion passes.

We'll begin the public hearing.

Please remember to state your name and address for the record.

Uh the item for the public hearing is item number 371 uh 87 to amend sections two five six six two five nine one two-six one nine of the code of ordinance to align capital project bid requirements for greater consistency and efficiency.

And are there any speakers?

Going twice.

Are there any speakers?

Three times.

Any speakers?

Seeing no speakers, we will close the public hearing and move on to the special meeting.

Time is now six forty-seven.

The first item on the agenda is item number 37187 to amend sections two five six six two five nine one two six one nine of the code of ordinance to align capital project bid requirements for greater consistency and efficiency.

May I have a motion?

Alderman Santiago.

I make a motion to accept item number 37187 and refer to the com the council with a favorable recommendation.

Motion made to uh refer to the common council with a favorable recommendation.

All in favor, any discussion.

I'm sorry, uh um any discussion?

Alderman, Alderwoman Delerna, I'm sorry.

I just uh want to ask the question, what what brought this about?

What's what's the background on this?

Why are we doing this?

Alderman McDonald.

Can anyone respond?

Oh we have the benefit of the interim finance director who can uh ask answer any any questions.

I don't know, but I would uh say that um this is an effort to uh recognize the costs of items that a city has to acquire and purchase, uh, but also to uh follow uh proper policies and procedures as to those purchases, and uh well, but I I think she could help us.

Thank you, Welder.

Um yeah, I'm I'm just wondering what the uh you know, why are we why is this come about?

I mean it's from 7500 to 25,000 big increase.

So there's really three reasons why we're doing this.

One, we want to have all of our thresholds consistent.

So our capital project threshold is 25,000.

So we wanted to make all of our bidding requirements 25,000, so it's the same throughout all of our bidding processes.

Um and also 7500 is it's an outdated amount.

We haven't raised that that amount in a very long time, and a lot of contractors don't want to take the time, the resources, or the energy to bid something that's just 7500.

But 25,000, you know, there's it's there's a little more incentive there.

And also, over the years, we have sometimes circumvented the bid process by breaking up invoices into $7,500.

So we didn't have to come to council for any sort of approval, or we didn't have to go out for bid.

So by increasing this to $25,000, we're gonna ensure that that doesn't happen anymore.

And all this really is the first step in um strengthening our city's uh purchasing process.

So what we want to do is we're looking at the the process for purchasing, and we're going to strengthen that, and especially when we bring on the new purchasing agent, then this way um things will be more in line.

Okay, so then uh anything under 25,000, how is that gonna be appropriate or how are the purchases gonna work?

This the same way they'd work for under 7500.

So they would um call the vendor, do a purchase order, get the items in, or get the work done, and the city would pay the.

And how do we avoid favoritism in any way?

Well, the same way we uh avoid favoritism for under 7500.

I understand that, but it's a it's a larger amount now.

It is a larger amount, but I mean, costs have re have risen in the last few years, and we're just trying to keep everything in line, and right now our capital projects are at 25,000.

Okay.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Alderman McNamara.

I I asked um the last time, I believe it was a lower than 7500.

Uh, the last time it was it reached a level of 7500, where anything over that had to go out to bid.

Uh was that 10 years ago, 12 years ago?

Uh would you say?

Um I forgot to look at it.

Um, I could look that up and I can email everybody.

I'm not exactly sure.

Yeah, I I think it's an effort to be transparent and accountable uh given the cost of the city doing business uh following the correct bid procedures and um uh it's on Wednesday's agenda.

I remind you that every dime spent by the city uh comes to us in a report every month, uh Mr.

Larnia, which is is part of the accountability and transparency that we're all striving for.

Okay.

Any further uh discussion?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So you're not all in favor of uh referring back to the council council with a favorable recommendation it was.

Um all in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Uh nays.

What are you posting?

Yes, have it.

The next item on the agenda is item number 37188.

The Britain downtown district proposed budget for fiscal year 26, 2026 through 2027.

We have a motion, please.

Mr.

Chair.

Make a motion to uh refer this to the council with uh neutral recommendation.

Second.

So a motion to refer back to the common council with a neutral recommendation, second by all the woman Luna.

Any discussion?

Uh, Alderman McNamara.

Thanks, Mr.

Chair.

We have uh the idea of the downtown district, Ms.

Bosco here, uh who can uh talk about uh their annual meeting and what transpired and also to review uh the budget with us.

So I'll ask her to come up, it's possible, thank you.

Thanks for coming.

Of course, thank you for the first one.

Alderman McMahon.

Yeah, just a couple of uh questions uh uh on on the budget uh um I noticed that uh there's a fifteen percent.

We were just talking about call with everything fifteen or so percent increase in the budget this year but the tax revenue is uh pretty static at two point seven five and I noticed uh um the the budget is being balanced with a rollover surplus I think last year it was called something else as a fund balance or uh something like that but can you sort of explain that rollover and where that money comes from definitely um I'll speak to it.

Um there's a lot of new folks would it help if I give a background on what the downtown district is and what we do.

Um yeah we have new all the people so uh so uh your elevator speech would be appreciated.

Sure.

Um so the New Brent downtown district was established 40 years ago.

We're quasi actually 40 two years ago.

We're a quasi government agency meaning we're part of the city in the sense that we operate in the city but we are a separate arm meaning we collect our own tax revenue by state statute.

There are 14 um downtown districts in Connecticut.

It's you it's synonymous with you could call it a business improvement district you could call it a downtown special service district.

Think of your urban cities Middletown Danbury Bridgeport Hartford Stanford um we've been around for the longest but basically what we do yes it's an extra tax on those downtown property owners um which they've collectively voted to be a part of um and what we do with our budget is the professional term is called placemaking.

So you're activating space um ultimately when you think about a downtown it's a hub it's a hub of commerce economy when you have the proper live work play balance about uh fifty like fifty four percent of your GDP comes from a downtown when it's activated properly so over the course of the past four decades we've been taking we've adapted and taken steps to beautify enhance develop um all the things and we do that through a number of different things um in that place making world so your economic development special events to bring visitation in um clean and safe campaigns um really making the proper owners accountable for their properties uh easier said than done sometimes um and a number of different things that wear a different hat every day uh so that's kind of the gist of what we do um to go back to your second question Alderman McName on the budget the reason we have a rollover this year which um is very rare we you know typically operate as a we try to operate as a nonprofit mean money in money out um we have a property owner um who had two buildings of prominence who was nearly two years behind on taxes not only for the regular city taxes but the downtown district taxes that put us in um quite a cash flow situation so we had a vacancy um I had a part uh part-time event marketing person they did leave last April and I did not fill that so that salary allocation is a part of that rollover but then also the interest that was made on said property owner not paying taxes is a part of that rollover as well so um we're all squared up which is nice it's under new ownership it's working out very well but we do have um this uh fifty thousand dollars on a rollover surplus which is is very rare very rare for us to budget for um and what we do to that you'll see it's the main light item in um our uh kind of clean and safe program because we're hoping to roll out an ambassador program this coming fiscal year we file the same fiscal year as the city um that basically entails staff extra staffing in a sense that yes they can go clean um we have a ton of litter we have a ton of graffiti we have um you know just unsightly things that need to be managed it's way way way too much for public works and it shouldn't be public works responsibility um then there's a safe component we would love you know extra eyes out there maybe overlapping hours with public safety officials or I'm sorry officers that can keep their eye on people that we have our what we call our frequent flyers you've seen them out there too um but really that community outreach component too like you know hey it looks like you're having a bad day here's your options um you know or if you know at the end of the day the property owners have loiterers and that's it's they gotta move on.

So someone to kind of move them along so that is the goal with our surplus going forward um because this is a program I've been working with my board to formulate for a very long time and fight for how do we sustain it for the years going forward it's kind of a different story.

We did not qualify for a lot of grants um simply because we are quasi government we just you know I'm not educating kids on XYZ or I'm not you know doing things that'll are very niche grant specific.

But our the good news is our grand list is growing because we have so many properties um coming um on the grand list.

For example um Mitch is what's known as Mitch's place uh two 277 Main Street um 227 Main Street excuse me that'll come on the grand list you have the strand that um was vacant land that'll be started to be assessed as uh new development the Brit and the high railer now they're starting to be assessed at their full potential uh you got 102 West Main Street again these are brand new developments so they're being assessed as brand new proper