Oakland City Council Meeting 2025-08-19
It's someone who lives just down the street from us and he started off as being someone who was in our bicycle fix-athon getting his bicycle fixed and just sort of kept coming back almost every day asking what else is going on and so eventually we have him in a work study program now.
I am pleased to introduce our VIP speaker Mike Brown, who is a dedicated volunteer and one of our youngest committee members.
Mike lives across the street from the Crucible and goes to Lowell Middle School where he's an eighth grader.
Mike supports our expanding bike program and works in the studio three days a week.
As Mike will discuss, the Crucible classes offer more than skills.
They've taught him to be brave and to be mature.
Mike is the newest generation of artists to enrich our community, and I am so pleased to introduce him.
Please welcome Mike Brown.
What I like about the Crucible is that you get hands-on work with power tools in classes and you get to meet new friends.
You get to learn from the crucibles, such as how to control fire, maturity, because if you're playing around flames that are uh 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit and higher, you can hurt yourself or someone else.
In many ways, we're a growing program, and so we look at Mike Brown as a template for how we'll continue to grow the program.
And I really see the youth program as a continuum of services throughout a young person's time.
And so what's really exciting about Mike Brown is that we've seen the integration of young people into these classes and and really being excited about these classes.
I've taken jewelry, I've taken wood, I've taken wood shop, um, I've taken three ARC welding classes, I've done two blacksmithing classes, I've done NIG welding, TIG welding, I've done the bike shop, I've done neon, flash flame working and glass fusion.
But he's proud of himself, you know, coming here and learning things that seem dangerous, flames and hot furnaces, you know, blacksmithing and that kind of stuff, it's really intimidating when you're a kid.
But when you master it, you know, uh, you feel a lot more confident um that you can pretty much find anything difficult.
Just overcome your fears because there are people around you who are gonna keep you safe, make sure nothing happens, create a good environment for you.
And then he's he's just this awesome, awesome guy now.
Mom, if you think that it's a really good thing that I come here because like you learn new traits and everything, so like if you go out in the world, it's like you can you know get a really good job paying, you know, good money.
And if somebody enjoyed it's like whenever I enjoy it sending my mom, she's always right behind me.
To see uh Mike Brown with young people serving as an example and and being a young role model is just it's just really exciting and and it makes me really passionate about developing this program to make sure we continue to keep Mike Brown engaged when he's 16 and when he's 17 and then when we finally move him on to the adult program.
If I wasn't working here at the crucible, I would probably be living with my dad in San Jose because it's like I enjoy living in Oakland with my mom.
It's just that it's kind of dangerous because a lot of shooting and drug dealing and everything.
Right now, if you look at the situation in West Oakland, twelve to seventeen-year-olds are really committing some of the most violent crimes, and I think what the crucible offers is an alternative to those things, and and maybe they're not the ones perpetuating it, but maybe they're the ones that are victimized by that.
And so we just offer them a place where they can learn a skill, have some fun, and walk away with a new bike or maybe a new pendant or maybe a a letter opener from blacksmithing, so it's exciting, it's good.
It's just good to know that you provide safe and alternative education.
Seeing the the youth that comes in the door to create something, whether it's a pair of earrings or a pair of a bracelet or just hammering, just getting out the maybe their frustrations by doing things.
I think it for the community it's just a play another place for people to be expressive in a very positive way.
I would recommend this to other people because um it's fun and it's educational and it's uh it's a good experience because like you get to do things that you really don't really get to do with normally in life.
Like, um, do you normally ever see a 12-year-old or anything holding a blowtorch or anything like that?
The crucibles, I mean, a wonderful opportunity for people to see this type of artwork.
For me, it's a great way to become a part of a community where people kind of understand the more industrial types of art.
A lot of the arts have kind of moved away from this kind of um kind of work where it's down and dirty and like fire and hammers, and for me, it's what really gets me going.
And so it's real exciting to be in a place like this.
Often I think people don't see a lot of beauty in the things that they pick up, touch, hold, move every day, until they you know step back and see something that's actually been hand created.
So many people are used to the idea of things in their environment coming from the store, and not having any idea of where they come from, what the processes are that were to make them.
And so just to be exposed to that is it's an eye-opening experience, and it could just change your life like it did mine.
Wood is one of the most basic materials.
Uh traditionally, you know, it wouldn't take more than a handful of tools to do most furniture, and it was expected, it was even commonplace that every man would know how to do repairs around the home or uh perhaps build smaller, more simple pieces of furniture.
It is sadly uh a uh part of uh our society that has uh quieted down quite a bit.
I would argue that blacksmithing's not a dying art form.
Um, and in fact, there's been more of a resurgence of um blacksmithing in the last 20 years in this country.
Um, but there's a lot of new forms and a lot of new um uh a new visual and new aesthetic for blacksmithing that's more contemporary.
Um it's harder, it's hard to make a living as a blacksmith because of um commercial production.
Neon is kind of falling into the category of a lost art in that you simply can't pay Americans enough to do it.
A lot of the neon that you find mass produced in places like a Walmart or a Target or something like that is made in China where the neon workers are paid maybe 15 or 20 cents a piece and doing well at that.
Uh neon vendor here in the US can do I think probably fifteen dollars an hour is what it comes out to, which is not really very high pay for a for a good skill.
So, in that sense, it is kind of a dying art.
For the most part, I believe the education is going towards the three Rs of reading, writing, and arithmetic, and the trades are being pushed off on to other places.
Machine shops are all going the way of computers, but to know how to calculate and machine something so precisely that um it fits another machined object perfectly is is it is kind of a lost art.
I hope that the crucible can help to bring more interest into those areas.
I think the industrial arts are disappearing and this is a place where people can come and learn how to get these skills that they would not get anywhere else.
When you write a piece of code, it can disappear simply with a flip of a switch.
If you build something out of metal, it will outlive you.
And that's a really nice feeling.
We have always done something, you know, to commemorate our our being in existence and all the creativity that's come out of it.
And so in 2004, for our fifth anniversary, we ended up producing Dido at an AS, Henry Purcell's Baroque Opera, which was written in 1889.
The challenge really was to have what we're doing tie into the story of the opera and not be just gratuitous fire, and also tie back to what we teach, and that was really one of the big goals for me, was to really bring some theatrical light to some of these lost arts like glass working or flame working or anything like that.
So people would see it in a different light and think, wow, that's really amazing.
I have an interest in taking that.
So, some ways, you know, it's a fundraising event and it's uh awareness raising event, uh, but it's a huge outburst of a lot of people's creativity.
It was a huge challenge for us.
Uh having a 30-piece orchestra here, uh working with the San Francisco opera.
Um it was really exciting.
It's a time to really bring together a lot of the elements of that exist at the crucible.
The organization's very open and accessible for students and people to come in the door and get to be a part of it.
And that holds the same for being a teacher.
You don't have to have a master's degree, you don't have you don't need to spend a lot of money on an art degree to come and teach a class.
You need to have a passion for teaching, have a real wealth of knowledge to share and an interest in, you know, being patient with people to to teach them the hands-on skills.
We pull from uh industry a lot for our instructors and people who just love what they're doing, and it it puts a little different twist of thing uh on our classes.
Um there's less about what's happening in the modern art world and more about what the student would really like to do in a class.
So it's it's not so much of a competitive thing with the modern art world, but what people want to do and what people kind of have a vision of doing.
And then also the instructors just really pass on their love of art, you know, to the students because that's why they're there.
They're there because they love it.
I think I was most drawn to metal because it was the most difficult material for me to work with.
It's this rigid material that doesn't really move very easily and and it's just this, you know, cold, rigid material.
Um so being able to heat that material and and form it or mold it was this really beautiful process.
Um I I did metal smithing, which is more jewelry, um, welding and fabrication, which I also loved, but the blacksmithing was what was really the most beautiful thing for me because I could take this rigid piece of material, put it in the fire, and then use my hands and hammers to really form that material.
For a women's blacksmithing class, uh, the students are coming in to learn basic forming techniques of blacksmithing.
Hammering technique is really important because many of us don't know how to hammer.
So it's you know, it's coming in and picking up a hammer and trying to figure out how to hit this really small piece of steel in a big anvil.
So a lot of it's the coordination and and actually using an appropriate hammering technique.
So they're not wearing out their tendons and their muscles and their wrists, so they're using, you know, full arm techniques and appropriately hammering.
Um, and then there's the forming techniques such as tapering and twisting and bending.
A lot of the things that we think of when we think of traditional blacksmithing.
Should I hang out?
There are more and more women who are becoming involved in um in the art of blacksmithing.
Um, although, you know, I can probably count them on, maybe if I had two sets of hands.
So there are more and more, but there are are still very few in comparison to the men who are involved in blacksmithing.
The women who take my classes walk away with with more confidence and exhilaration because they've come into the studio and for a weekend do something that they perhaps were intimidated by or perhaps thought they just couldn't do, or was something that wasn't for them.
So they walk away with blisters and they walk away with with sore hands and sore arms, but but really it's the exhilaration and the confidence that that really strikes me.
My name is Kara Voss.
My fire artist name is Kay Fire, and I'm a fire dancing instructor here at the Crucible.
I started with poi, moved on to doing all sorts of fire toys, staff, and double staff, and fire eating and fire breathing.
So it's like a huge world.
You know, I'm like continuing to explore it, and the teaching element has been really exciting.
It's time, you can try again.
Just take your time.
There you go.
Toy is basically uh wicks made out of kevlar, which is a non-flammable material on chains with candles.
So you're basically spinning them around.
Uh poi, especially is just an endless learning experience.
There's just more and more levels of complexity.
Most of the school is focused on the uh industrial arts, but it's really nice that they also throw in the fire dancing element, and they're gonna be building a studio as well to accommodate that.
So it's you know, basically provided a way to share the art.
Right now I teach one class at the crucible.
It's called Cast Clip and Pour.
And it's a second-level foundry class.
So people who take the class come in with finished waxes, and I take them through the rest of the process until they come out with a bronze at the end.
With foundry, you um you go from an original to a mold to a wax to a mold to metal.
I feel like foundry work, because of how labor-intensive it is, loses a lot of people today because um so many things are you know kind of offer instant gratification, and um, but I do feel that people kind of fall in love with the process, and once they're hooked, they're gonna keep coming back and taking more classes, doing more work in cast metal.
I'm Martin Sweet.
I am the uh furniture making instructor here at the Crucible.
In the beginning class, we start from the assumption that a person has a desire to do woodworking, but basically has either very little skill or beginning level skill.
At just the angle that is required, and they want some guidance, and I'm here to provide that.
Generally speaking, people have a pretty good idea of what they want to do, and so uh we concentrate on putting the skills together that they need to have to feel confident enough to complete their given projects.
The thing that I really like to see is people just getting educated and working with their hands, and uh it it opens up so many avenues for them.
Uh it's just wonderful.
It uh you don't get everything off of TV.
Uh, you certainly can't get everything out of a book.
There comes a time when you just have to set all that down and say, gonna get messy today.
Some of the most beautiful pieces are made by people who are not counting the hours and getting paid for it.
You can't.
If you really want to make something beautiful, you've got to take the time to work the details to put those polishes on it, whatever it might be that makes it really spectacular.
If you charge by the hour, it would be pennies.
And you would never be able to make your money off it.
I just finished actually taking the claymation class, and that was a lot of fun.
So I'm really excited about getting more into that.
In the claymation class, I uh created um actually a spider, a three-legged spider that uh came out of a pot.
Our kitchen here at the crucible is used by many staff members and many students and many faculty members, and one of our challenges is keeping the kitchen clean.
So we uh grossed it up quite a bit, and uh the spider actually explodes out of this pot and then goes walking around on the stalls.
It's uh it's not very long uh of an animation, but it's it's pretty interesting to watch and a lot of fun, and the class involves mold making.
Um, probably 90% of it is making the mold and getting everything ready to put the piece in the kiln.
So I've been learning a lot about mold making, and so that we can come up with a piece of cast glass.
The process works is that you make a sculpture out of wax or a figure, a form, and um end up pouring a liquid plaster silica mold over it, and the mold hardens and you end up steaming the wax out, so it becomes a hollow mold inside of the plaster, and you end up filling it with glass, and um, you put it in the kiln.
This mold here took about 52 hours.
The glass will be stacked up in this mold and then it put in the kiln, it'll melt down, and you'll come out with something like this.
And this is this is called a reverse cast.
You have to be really careful when you're trying to take the plaster off because you don't know exactly where your form's at.
So you have to make sure that you're not breaking it apart more as you're taking the plaster off.
She came out really good.
I'm very surprised.
This piece had a lot of detail, so I was really worried if it was even gonna come out at all.
So here it is.
The crucible is really strong on collaboration and it's um people are just very welcoming for any idea you have.
I think one of the things I like the most about being here at the Crucible is that there are very few walls between our departments.
I can walk out my door and walk right over to the machine shop.
I don't have to walk across campus, everything is at almost at my fingertips.
It's a big building, but I can get to another department and utilize the tools that I need to use for the project that it is that I'm doing.
Being as my strengths kind of lie in the foundry, I end up collaborating with different fabricators or with woodworkers, um, sometimes with people in blacksmithing to work on projects together.
Um, everybody's strengths kind of lie in a different place.
So it's a good place to kind of get your heads together and work on a project.
You can always get an opinion if you feel you're outside your uh uh skills, and uh it's a very comfortable feeling.
It's a real community of crafts people.
Let's have a little one.
Fire arts festival, the crucible's uh uh annual summer event.
It's a uh celebration of creation through fire and light.
Uh the first one we did was in '99 in June.
We wanted to do a festival that really celebrated the type of creativity that was coming out of the crucible and showcase it in a different way.
We essentially take over a hundred and fifty thousand square foot yard across the street that we call the arena, and we fill it with sculpture, with art, uh, and its main uh focus of the art is fire.
We're gonna be lighting up the skies across the street with a VIP night on Thursday, the twisted fiery circus on Friday, and the high voltage chaos on Saturday.
If you haven't picked up a flyer, haven't bought a ticket, now's your chance.
We uh had a lot of people last year, and we almost sold out of tickets.
The big events are fundraising events.
Um it's exposure to um for reaching different crowds, different people.
And we're so happy that so many of you have come out tonight to see this place and see this show.
The crucible, if you look right over there, you can see the neon sign is 56,000 square feet of workshop.
You know, a lot of folks who come for the big events don't realize that we're a school.
They just see this big fire arts festival or this big um big uh show.
But it's a big fundraiser for for the school to continue.
That's a great way where people in West Oakland don't know of us know that we have this big event because they see it and you see it and you hear it and you feel it in the air.
It's it's a massive undertaking on our part.
We're needing to change gears from teaching classes to running these massive productions is quite a challenge and really interesting.
We have special workshops throughout the weekend and youth classes and field trips that associate with it.
And then it culminates in three big nights.
We have a VIP sort of preview night where we do a big art auction and we um auction off all sorts of fire-cre created pieces, so things that were, you know, ceramic fired or metal fabricated or cast or glass work, along with some really um exciting performances and demonstrations.
900 going once, 900 going twice, sold for 900 dollars.
Thank you.
The artists that we uh contract to be a part of the fire arts festival from all around the country.
Uh they fly in, they drive in.
The the Bay Area is kind of a hot spot for fire artists.
So the the uh majority of fire artists that attend our event and are part of it or are from the Bay Area.
It's just stuff that people don't get to see too much, and because of, you know, Burning Man being sort of based in the Bay Area, uh, there's a lot of people that make art for that event that can't really be shown anywhere else, and so we provide a venue for that.
What people have thought of to make this stuff is is stuff that I've never seen before in my life, and I'm a better person for having seen it.
Fire is very uh mysterious.
It's a really incredible element to work with.
Uh it's really beautiful, and it's a it's a former, it's a shaper.
It's hot.
It's it's exciting, you can do a lot with it, and you can also um you can also hurt yourself with it.
So um making sure that you know what you're doing is is uh and extremely important.
Our relationship with the fire department is really key in allowing us to do things that you know most places wouldn't allow.
And so they've they've taken a little faith with us, and we've earned their trust, I believe, and they really help us, you know, bring these really fantastic creations to the public.
It's really um great synergy of a lot of different people working together to promote something that is very unique.
Volunteers at the Crucible are pretty much key to our existence.
Um being a 501c nonprofit, we rely a lot on volunteers to keep things running.
Without them, I don't think the school would exist.
Because we need so many so much volunteer force.
Um we've provided opportunities for them such as percentages off on classes, especially with the youth program.
We absolutely need adult volunteers, and I look at the success of our summer program where we served a hundred youth and it couldn't have been done without the cadre of of volunteers we have that attend to eye scrapes and you know hurt feelings or frustration over a project.
Um, it really allows us to continue to grow the program without being afraid that we won't be able to sustain it.
There's a lot of ways to get involved.
We're always open.
Um, if someone wanted to propose a class or just come take a you know, take a class or volunteer, you can go to our website www.thecrucible.org, or you can just come down and visit us at 1267th Street and talk to any of our staff.
The Crucible is such a welcoming community.
I think there's so many different levels of involvement.
You can volunteer, you can serve on a board, you can serve on a committee, you can be a donor, you can be a friend of the crucible, a very good friend of the crucible, so there's many ways they can get involved.
I just recommend coming through the door, we'll find something for you.
The future of the crucible I see is uh very fiery and bright, of course.
Uh, but I see a lot of um connection with other organizations, um, certainly reaching out further into the West Oakland community and the Oakland community of the Bay Area.
We've been in Oakland for three years now.
We really love it.
We plan on being here a long time.
We hope you will join us not only in this evening and this weekend, but in our path uh through the future to bring creativity and arts experiences to everybody in the Bay Area and beyond.
I think there's a lot of possibilities, and Oakland is a great home for possibilities and then making things happen.
So we'll just have to see what happens, I guess.
We have folks who contact us from LA from across the country and say where where can I find this kind of organization where I where I live?
And you can't.
Yeah, there's not a place that has this same mission statement that really combines industry and arts and community.
You can't find a place that really combines all these things.
What's on tonight?
I don't know.
As long as it's not that one show that you make me watch all the time.
I've got an idea.
How about we K-top and Chill?
K- Top?
What's that?
Why, only the very best in government programming.
Live council meetings, original Oakland programs, all at our hooves.
Everything that you and your soul horse need to keep up with what's happening in Oakland.
That sounds great.
Let's get cozy and K Top and Chill tonight.
Channel ten on that cable dial and streaming on the City of Oakland website.
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But it didn't do that.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you.
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Hello, Gwen Food vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer requests or self-service stations only.
This way, customers can take only what they need.
Okay, I think that's a good one.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you there are three main requirements for Oaklanders to know about.
Number one, for to go orders, if you want single-use foodwear accessories like straws, utensils, and condiment packets, ask for them.
Food vendors can only provide these items upon customer request or at self-service stations.
And say goodbye to those bundled utensils, napkins, and condiments.
The law bans food vendors from distributing them.
That way, you can take only what you need.
Two, for to go orders, you can now use your own reusable containers so long as the containers are clean and can safely hold orders.
This includes using your own reusable mug for to go coffee and your own reusable containers for to go meals or leftovers.
When you go out to eat at your favorite spot, you can enjoy your food on reusable foodware.
Starting July twenty twenty-five, food vendors are required to use reusable foodware like glass cups, steel utensils, and ceramic plates for dine in service.
How can you help?
Remember to bring your reusable container when getting your morning coffee out, only take disposable items you will actually use, and make it clear if you plan to dine in so that your food is served on reusable dishware.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oakland Recycle dot com slash reusables.
Hello, Oakland Food Vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the reusable foodware ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer requests for its self-service stations only.
No bundling of utensils, napkins and or condiments is allowed.
This way, customers can take only what they need.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold food orders.
Three, use single use foodware that is not made of polystyring foam, also called styrofoam.
Not made of compulsive plastics, also called bioplastics.
This includes PLA line cups and certified as free of harmful food packaging chemicals.
If there are at least three options by product type to choose from, check the city's website for specific guidance.
All food must be served using reusable foodware like lost cups, steel utensils, and ceramic plates.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oakland Recycled.
Have questions or want free in-person help?
Email the city of Oakland's recycling hotline at Recycling at Oakland C A dot.
And thanks for doing your part to keep our town clean, healthy, and resilient.
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Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, utensils, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you there are three main requirements, ask for Oaklanders to know about.
Food vendors can only provide these items upon customer request or at self-service stations.
And say goodbye to those bundled utensils, napkins, and condiments.
The law bans food vendors from distributing them.
That way you can take only what you need.
Two, for to go orders, you can now use your own reusable containers so long as the containers are clean and can safely hold orders.
This includes using your own reusable mug for to-go coffee and your own reusable containers for to go meals or leftovers.
When you go out to eat at your favorite spot, you can enjoy your food on reusable foodwear.
Starting July twenty twenty-five, food vendors are required to use reusable foodwear like glass cups, steel utensils, and ceramic plates for dine in service.
How can you help?
Remember to bring your reusable container when getting your morning coffee out.
Only take disposable items you will actually use and make it clear if you plan to dine in so that your food is served on reusable dishware.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oaklandrecycle.
Hello, Glen Food Vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the reusable foodwear ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer requests for self-service stations only.
No bundling of utensils, napkins and/or condiments is allowed.
This way, customers can take only what they need.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold foodwear that is not made of poly siren foam, also called styrofoam.
Not made of compulsive plastics.
Also called bioplastics.
This includes PLA line cups.
And certified as free of harmful food packaging chemicals.
If there are at least three options by product type to choose from, check the city's website for specific guidance.
Like lost cups, steel utensils, and ceramic plates.
Have questions or want free in-person help?
Email the city of Oakland's recycling hotline at recycling at Oakland C A.gov.
And thanks for doing your part to keep our town clean, healthy, and resilient.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the reusable foodwear ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you there are three main requirements for Oaklanders to know about.
Number one, for to go orders, if you want single use foodware accessories, like straws, utensils, and condiment packets, ask for them.
Food vendors can only provide these items upon customer request or at self-service stations.
And say goodbye to those bundled utensils, napkins, and condiments.
The law bans food vendors from distributing them.
That way you can take only what you need.
Two, for to go orders, you can now use your own reusable containers so long as the containers are clean and can safely hold orders.
This includes using your own reusable mug for to go coffee and your own reusable containers for to go meals or leftovers.
Three.
When you go out to eat at your favorite spot, you can enjoy your food on reusable foodwear.
Starting July twenty twenty-five, food vendors are required to use reusable foodware like glass cups, steel utensils, and ceramic plates for dine-in service.
How can you help?
Remember to bring your reusable container when getting your morning coffee out.
Only take disposable items you will actually use and make it clear if you plan to dine in so that your food is served on reusable dishware.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oaklandrecycle dot com slash reusables.
Hello, Oakland food vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the reusable foodware ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer requests where it's self-service stations only.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold food orders.
Steel utensils and ceramic plates.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oaklandrecycles.
Have questions or want free in-person help?
Email the City of Oakland's recycling hotline at recycling at Oakland C A.gov.
And thanks for doing your part to keep our town clean, healthy, and resilient.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you There are three main requirements for Oaklanders to know about.com slash reusable dishware.
You can learn more about the new law by checking out Oakland Recycle.
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Hello, Oakland food vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer request for its self-service stations only.
No bundling of utensils, napkins and/or condiments is allowed.
This way, customers can take only what they need.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold food orders.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you, there are three main requirements for Oaklanders to know about.
Number one, for to go orders, if you want single use foodwear accessories, like straws, utensils, and condiment packets, ask for them.
Food vendors can only provide these items upon customer request or at self-service stations.
Two, for to go orders, you can now use your own reusable containers so long as the containers are clean and can safely hold orders.
Hello, Oakland food vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
This way, customers can take only what they need.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold food orders.
Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
And you there are three main requirements for Oaklanders to know about.
Number one, for to go orders, if you want single use foodwear accessories, like straws, utensils, and condiment packets, ask for them.
Food vendors can only provide these items upon customer request or at self-service stations.
Two, for to go orders, you can now use your own reusable containers so long as the containers are clean and can safely hold orders.
How can you help?
Remember to bring your reusable container when getting your morning coffee out.
Hello, Oakland food vendors.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting human health.
It's called the reusable foodware ordinance, and it applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
There are four main requirements.
Number one, for to go orders, single-use food or accessories like straws, utensils, and common packets must be provided upon customer requests for its self-service stations only.
So long as the containers are clean and can safely hold food orders.gov.
And thanks for doing your part to keep our town clean, healthy, and resilient.
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Hello, Oaklanders.
There's a new law in Oakland that's all about reducing plastic pollution and protecting your health.
It's called the Reusable Foodwear Ordinance.
It applies to food vendors like restaurants, cafes, and food trucks in Oakland.
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Good evening.
Um, welcome.
I'm gonna call the meeting to order.
Um, uh, Commissioner Down.
Commissioner Williams.
Um, uh, Vice Chair, Commissioner Booker.
Okay, great.
So we're gonna join to close session.
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Redetermination of Quorum.
Um it is August 14th, twenty twenty-five.
The time is six forty-three PM.
We'll start with roll call, Commissioner Rowles.
Present.
Commissioner Dowitt.
Present.
Commissioner Williams.
Present.
Commissioner Jack.
Jackson Casting.
Myself, Vice Chair Booker here, present.
Oh, Commissioner.
Uh, alternate commissioner farmer.
Here.
And excuse is Chair of Ricardo Garcia Acosta.
Um, and before asking if there is public comment, um, I have a readout.
Is that the appropriate order, minimum?
Okay.
In close session.
Um, I have a readout from closed session on a motion made by Commissioner Rowles and seconded by Commissioner Dowitt.
The commission voted unanimously to refer the lawsuit title Ali Salim Bay at all versus City of Oakland at all.
Alameda Superior Court number two five-C V-121547 to the city attorney to respond and to serve as counsel on behalf of the Oakland Police Commission.
Um Madame Micah, is there any um public comment comment for closed session?
None for closed session, Chair.
Great.
Uh okay.
So I'm over right along.
Open forum part one.
Any comment?
We do.
We have three.
The first is Miss Mundal.
The second is Ms.
Bail, and the third is Miss Cleveland.
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Rajny Mundal District 4.
I wanted to commend Commissioner Dowick, Commissioner Jackson Castain, Commissioner Williams, and Commissioner Booker for their insightful questions during the discussion about OPD's budget at the last meeting.
I was impressed by the preparation you had done before the meeting and your questions, because they offered insights that many members of the public benefited from.
I also want to urge the chair to follow Robert's rules of order, Brown Act and Sunshine Ordinance during meetings.
I have in the past recommended that a parliamentarian be present at these meetings.
The role cannot fall on the chief of staff.
It isn't her purview.
According to the 2020 city audit report, outside council hired by the city attorney or representative from the city attorney sat in the meetings and informed the commission if they violated the Brown Act and Sunshine Ordinance.
Then a member of the city attorney's office quit attending meetings because of a perceived lack of respect received from the commission.
If there won't be a parliamentarian at these meetings, then it falls in the chair to lead the discussions and navigate the agenda in public comments.
Utters a chair to not be bullied by the members of the coalition for police accountability.
It is their right to make public comments and bring up questions, but it is up to the discretion of the chair on whether to follow up on them or not.
The chair does not have to respond to every public speaker, and is up to the discretion of the chair on whether invited speakers should respond or not.
Not every question or issue needs to be addressed, especially if they're not on the agenda.
If the chair cannot follow the Brown Act and some ordinance, then legal counsel is required.
Thank you.
One second, Ms.
Vale.
Yes.
One second, I'm going to give you a second.
Thank you.
Okay.
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Mary Vail, I'm a 40 uh almost 40-year resident of the Glenview neighborhood in Oakland.
And we had some really hard times for community policing during a pandemic.
A lot of secretly things were discontinued, and finally we found out about it in my neighborhood in 2021 about the discontinuation, and then from the CPAB about the recontinuation.
So I meet with on behalf of my neighborhood council with our new CRO, Officer McKinney, and his new mentor, his mentor officer, Officer Lay, about nine days before they were shot at at this dispensary that have been robbed before.
Earlier this year, when the whole incident was brought up again, a promise was made that oh, eventually this department will do an after action report.
Like they did in uh after March of 2006 when four officers were killed in an incident.
And I really want you, you know, this isn't an unknown thing on the new chief's plate, but I really want to emphasize to you the importance when we have officers, one traumatized and one killed, that they do an after-action report about why these officers, why that time, because they were basically reassigned from other work.
Then I will talk about um, I'm an animal shelter supporter, and there was an ordinance passed recently to adjust their operations to the budget.
And then the next two or three days later, I read in the East Bay Times.
This, you know, oh, um, taking the animal shelter of out of OPD was so controversial or whatever.
And that had nothing to do with the budget issues, and it concerns me uh maybe the city administrator staff, but also remember the police department is doing propaganda on the job and um expressing resistance to the decision to put the animal shelter um as a small department under the um city administrator's office instead of the police department.
That's that kind of talk needs to stop.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ms.
Bale.
Ms.
Cleveland, Millie Cleveland with coalition for Police Accountability.
Um it's just a friendly reminder that uh when the public ask questions, uh, particularly during the police presentation.
If the uh officer or the chief can answer the question, to kindly ask him to answer it at that time.
If they cannot answer it, then it becomes an actionable item.
There are too many questions that get posed by the public that just fall into a black hole.
So I think the chief of staff brought that up at the last meeting.
I'd like to reaffirm the importance.
There are no more comments at this time, Vice Chair.
Great.
Moving on to the next item.
Um Oakland Police Department updates.
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All right.
Good morning, good evening.
All right, uh sworn staffing authorization is at still at six uh hundred and seventy-eight.
Filled is six fifty-one long-term leave.
We have 102 sworn employees, 66 on medical leave, 36 on admin leave.
That's broken down into six sergeants and 30 officers.
32 officers are on modified duty, and three are on uh military leave.
That puts us at a operational strength of 514.
We're communications.
Uh we're authorized at 78.
We have 65 currently filled positions with seven new dispatcher trainees starting as of the as of October 28th.
18 are currently in training.
Um dispatchers have been hired as of will be hired as of the 30th of August.
Uh in regards to the 195th Academy, which began on the 19th of July, there are currently 20 uh POTs out of the initial twenty-six currently uh still in between the uh academy for Skelly data.
Um there are 76 Scully cases.
That's down by two by subject.
There are 105.
Scully's awaiting dissemination.
Uh that's 25, there are eight more that just came in.
Uh number of hearing officers, there's uh 18, which has remained the same.
In regards to IAB cases as of 2025, Jul uh 31 July, there are 100 or 915 uh cases closed year to date.
Total cases opened by intake is 839.
Total number of cases assigned to intake was a hundred and eighty hundred and eighty-five.
Case load uh a total investigations assigned to IAB, which is the investigative side, is 129.
Um, total number of cases assigned as DLIs, which are the cases that are sent out to the field is 130.
Puts a total cases currently open at 565.
In regards to SVS juvenile cases for 2025, there have been a total of 156 juvenile arrests.
Out of those, 32 were referred to restorative justice programs, such as NOAA.
Uh there were there have been 180 832 missing person cases.
Out of those 969 have been closed.
A total of four hate crimes that have been reported and are being investigated in the 2025 so far.
Um the city uh risk management quarterly will be on the 26th citywide quarterly management risk management will be on the 26th of August.
Um, collaboration with the community we recently on the first of August had the National Latino Peace Officers Association Alameda County chapter.
Um which is basically they invited this is uh this invite is uh at the heart of our the mission building stronger more pro positive relationships between law enforcement and the community members that we proudly serve.
The presence and participation uh will help forge and a deeper connection and build uh invaluable trust.
That was uh they held a popsicle with police uh out at the the firmary park, which was uh well received and well attended.
On uh August 5th we had National Night Out, which was a big success.
Um Mayor Barbara Lee and other city ministers along with um Chief Floyd and other commanders uh attended multiple um neighborhood parties, and then uh more recently we had a Bay Area students tour of the Oakland Police Air Unit, which was uh I think they had a good time of doing that.
And moving on to Macro, as of between July 16th and the 31st, there were 70 calls referred from OPD dispatch to macro, and 65 incidents were returned from to OFD and handled by OPD, and that is it, uh madam uh vice chair uh if I might I might I have three questions I'd like to ask.
The first one is am I reading the numbers right here, sir, that the um IAB cases this year are lower than last year, total IAB cases is down?
This year is still open, sir, so um the total numbers isn't in for this year.
But year today it's lower.
Uh I I don't know for sure, so I I wouldn't be able to answer that uh positive.
Okay.
Um my other question is um it was also raised here earlier.
Um there's uh uh decision that the community ad hoc um committee of of the commission um uh has voted on that's now gone to the department around community policing, uh policies around community policing for the CRO officers, and a comment was made that there are no more community policing officers.
They because of measure double in.
Uh my understanding is that measure double in gave the department discretion more than they it had previously for the funding mechanism to decide where those funds would go, either community policing or to other items within the department.
Has there been a reduction uh in the department of funds for the CRO officers in community policing?
I wouldn't be able to speak on anything in regards to uh budgetary things.
I know that we've had a reduction in officers, but uh I wouldn't be able to speak or provide it as a deliverable to get back to that answer.
Uh lastly, uh if you could get back to us with that, if that's possible.
What specifically is the question is do we still have CROs?
Uh, is there been a reduction in uh CROs?
Just I know because of the budget.
Looking too.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Um, then um the news has reported that there was an ice raid at a home on seventy-ninth Avenue near Hillside in Oakland, I think last week, and um I'm wondering whether the department knows whether the persons who were uh taken there had any criminal record.
Uh S B fifty four requires any involvement of uh of uh the part department with only um uh immigrants or persons who have uh any kind of criminal record.
Was there any devo involvement of the department?
Is there any record of there being any criminal person criminal activity there?
I'm not aware of any involvement by the the Oklahoma Police Department in regards to any cooperation on any level with ICE.
Thank you, sir.
Do the chair.
Thank you.
Uh actually I have some questions specifically for the chief.
Chief, do you mind uh joining us at the front of the room?
Thank you.
Thank you, good to see you.
Um we spoke uh previously about the status of the forest review board for uh the potential car chase where the person ended up uh being seriously injured.
I think it was back in March.
You said you were gonna follow up with us about that.
So I'm just following up with you about that.
What was the question?
About the person who was seriously injured when um OPD made a U-turn and was following a car, whether or not it was a chase.
You said there was a forced review board that was in progress, and that you would follow up with us on the status of that.
That occurred back in March.
So I'm just following up with that.
Yes, sir.
Through the chair.
Uh I don't know that I have received that force review board yet.
The force review board takes place, then they will complete a report and then that report would come to me for review.
Okay.
Well, I'm just following up because you said you would follow.
Okay.
And I I will I will check to see where they are in regards to that force review board and if the if that uh particular force review board is ready for my review.
Okay, thank you.
And then the other question was going back to the CMC, something that you said about uh maybe it was task forty-five or maybe it was all three tasks that are in the microscope.
Um you stated that um you weren't sure about what needed to be done in order to get us into compliance, and that you're gonna have a discussion with Chief Warshaw about that.
Could you elaborate on that?
Uh yes, sir, I'll I will elaborate uh uh as much as I can.
So through the chair again, uh, because I I think you're kind of conflating some things in regards to this, and you know and I know that any time you want to reach out to me to have a conversation, we can have a conversation.
In regards to my specific conversations with with Chief Warsaw, those conversations between he and I are conversations in regards to the pr this the specific uh questions that I asked him regarding what we need to do to gain compliance.
He did give me some direction in regards to what he thought we needed to do, and we're working on those things.
Okay, all right.
Well you mentioned it publicly, so I'm following up about that.
So that's why I'm asking you if I think it's an appropriate question.
So obviously you can talk about what you can talk about, but you uh you're saying that you did talk to Chief Warshaw and that you all are on the same page?
Yes, sir.
I I talked to Chief Warshaw, uh I and the city attorney's office are working through some of the things that he thought we needed to do and in regards to speaking publicly.
I spoke publicly about the conversations that we had in regards at the CMC.
The transcripts are out now, so if you have any specific questions about what occurred or what I exactly said at the tr at that particular trial, you can look at the transcripts.
Well that's that's my question.
I want to ask was that translated.
I don't think it's I don't think it's necessary for us to relitigate what I said there.
If you have a specific question, you know you can get a hold of me and we can talk about that.
Yeah, well, I'm not really getting anything, but thank you.
Any other questions?
No question.
Um, hey Chief.
Um I just had a question when it came to the the academies.
I know that we're seeing dwindling um, you know, officers as as they leave our department.
Um and I know that we're competing for applicants with with neighboring um cities.
Um I was I did send an email not directly to you but to your office, and I'm wondering if just to get a gut check on how you might feel about this, uh which is City of San Francisco waives um the written exam for the academy if an applicant has a bachelor's degree from an accredited university.
Um but the city of Oakland, we don't do that.
I was wondering just if you guys might uh entertain something like that as well.
Waived through the chair, they waive the written exam to get into the academy or they waive the exams through the academy.
They waive those exams to get into the academy if you have a bachelor's degree from an accredited university.
Okay, so I would have to check to see um exactly what that process is and to see, you know, because post police officers training, training and police officer standards and training requires certain written tests to be taken throughout the academy and to be certified as a police officer.
I know we go through, we look at the whole person in regards to getting them into the academy, the specific tests as in regards to reading, writing and math and things like that.
I would have to see what issues we have been facing in the past in regards to those specific things in regards to people making it through the academy because it it is like a semester of college.
So we want to make sure that we have people in there that they can uh they're able to comprehend the material and pass the test.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
Uh yeah, it's not the test are inside the academy, it's to get into the academy.
Uh, I did some emotes like maybe a day or two ago, so I'm not surprised if um you guys haven't had a chance to have a robust conversation around it.
Just since you're here, I just thought I'd just too much shot.
Yeah, oh well, and and I I apologize for that, but uh my chief of staff is actually doing his required mandatory 40 hour training.
So he's actually out of the office right now.
Yeah, I I got that as well.
That's I just wanted to ask him.
Cool.
That's it for me.
Any other statement, comments, ask questions from commissioners?
Um, Chief, you have anything else you'd like to add to offer us?
Um, don't run notes.
I know there were some questions the last time about um the reason some of our recruits had left the academy, and I I actually uh Commissioner, I thought that's that's where you were going.
Um this academy class started four weeks ago, and since then it started with 26 and we have lost six academy recruits and and the question always uh kind of uh uh to us is why are they leaving the academy?
Is it something within the academy itself or is it other reasons that that we could potentially address?
So when we look at the six recruits that we've lost in the first four weeks, which most of the most of the first four weeks is is really acclimating folks to the academy, getting them acclimated with what's going on, working on their physical fitness.
They have not taken any academic tests to this point.
Um, it's just more the onboarding.
Um so we had one one recruit that uh left it because he was the head of household and the family needed assistance from him, uh recruit number two, uh that that POT had an illness prior to entering the academy and the injury or illness uh got worse uh during the first four weeks of the academy and that person left.
Uh then we had a POT that had more additional family concerns and that required them to reevaluate their commitment to the police academy, so they left.
We had a uh uh a recruit that learned that they were not ready to sacrifice their life for someone else, so they left the academy, and we had a uh we had a uh recruit that advised that they lack the physical preparedness needed to complete the academy, and we had a recruit that due to personal reasons related to family, they became a a parent uh and they needed to step away from the academy.
So uh we we just want to make sure that that that our public and and the commission understands that we're not running people out of the academy.
We're doing everything we can to one onboard them and get them through the academy as best as we possibly can.
Starting this academy with 26 cadets, which is a lot less than we would want like to start with.
Um we wanted to start with 35, uh, but we were able to identify these 26 cadets, so this right now this has us as 20.
If you look at past uh history what that means is we'll probably graduate 18 and potentially 15 to 17 will make it through the field training process.
These the continu the the attrition rate as it stands right now is still at five and a half to six per month.
As uh Curtis said that we right now we have 651 on the police department and we continue to lose uh officers at a rate of five and a half to six uh our attrition rate is a lot higher than our arm onboarding rate uh because it takes um once they enter the academy it's going to take a full 10 months for them to get out of the academy uh when people ask me and I've had I was having a conversation earlier today the biggest threat to the police department and the public safety in the city of Oakland it is our staffing it's going to continue to be our staffing for potentially the next 18 months.
So we're doing everything we can to identify candidates to put through the academy get them through the academy and uh working with uh city leadership to uh try to retain as many people as we would potentially can to re and and look at uh potential things to reduce the attrition rate because that is going to be the key to staving off um our our current attrition rate uh the projection is this time next year um you know we're still going to be um uh attritioning down I have a question um commissioner Williams First and then Commissioner Dogley thank you through the chair I have a comment and uh question follow-up that was a great report earlier um thank you for discussing the attrition issue I think to the point about being creative about how to recruit and be competitive with other counties and agencies um is why that question was brought up but we do want the best of the best um I also wanted to comment on the um national night out and the police and popsicles I think that is um sounds like a great interaction with the community and ways to like help you community policing and engage with the community in a positive way and then I have a question about immigration are there any trainings memos updates about for officers about how in this current time how to interact with ICE agents in our city.
Yes ma'am through the chair um you know early in the year uh there was a a big push to make sure that we uh reiterated the city's policy and stance uh on on immigration uh the city of Oakland is a sanctuary city uh we do not cooperate or assist uh federal agencies in their uh attempts to identify or apprehend uh individuals regarding their immigration status um we our communications unit uh tries to track when people are in our city doing those things uh and I know there was a report uh last week about uh immigration an immigration operation in here uh we know that uh the DEA was involved in some type of uh action uh uh last week but uh we were not notified and we did not participate in the uh immigration type enforcement and we won't it it's against our our policies and procedures but yes everyone was what had to reread and re-sign off on our policies and procedures regarding immigration and and uh interacting with people regarding their immigration status.
Thank you.
Commissioner Dowley.
Yeah uh thank you chief um I had a question when it comes to the attrition I know that we are already low on officers in your mind is there a a critical bottom floor that we could be approaching um when it comes to public safety here in Oakland or are we are we already there?
I just want to get some understanding on that.
Yes sir and actually you you uh reminded me of what of something I wanted to say because we were talking about CROs.
Um we we are in a in a in a very uh um uh critical space right now and what uh I and my executive staff have done is we have actually um started to determine where we are going to consolidate uh uh uh our people so that we can keep the the the primary goal of the police department one keep patrol full as best as we can or respond to calls for service keep investigations full uh to uh investigate crimes that are happening throughout our city and also to um uh continue to maintain uh and and and achieve uh where we are in regards to the negotiated settlement agreement that is going to cause us to uh because we are attritioning down when I have a squad that has three CROs over here and two CROs over there but I've got two sergeants we're going to consolidate those folks to have six CROs under one sergeant and if we continue to attrition down they'll go to four and then three and then they'll probably be completely disbanded and and what's left is put back in control.
The same thing will happen with our traffic unit.
When we get if if we get down to the low 20s uh our six twenties uh that we we are going to have to look at how we operate and things are going to have to uh uh basically be compressed uh so we can maintain our response in the field uh it is going to take some time to get through this next uh year to 18 month rough patch until we can start seeing our academies and our staffing levels come back up okay thank you and it sounds like six twenty would be that number when stuff becomes really critical yes sir we have we have several numbers to where we're gonna start uh okay these these two units have to compress because it's from Hispanic control standpoint I I don't need a sergeant to that only has two direct reports and I have five five people over here that has uh have a direct report I can put those together and then move that sergeant someplace else okay thank you chief yes to follow up on that um what do you think um has helped contribute to the declining crime rates even with the low staff numbers yes sir through the chair I I you know th there's a couple of things that that are gonna uh contribute to our crime rate there there are natural ebbs and flows when it has to do with crime and if you we did a press conference last week to talk about when you look at the look across the nation across the nation crime has gone down there are natural ebbs and flows with with crime and and depending on what's going on with the economy and everything else aside from that when you look when you look at our specific city and our specific region has gone down across our region as well and we have been the benefactor of that we we continue to see you know double digit high 20s reduction in our in our violent crime rate.
I think it has to do with the hard work of the men and women of the Oakland police department uh our uh uh cooperation with uh California highway patrol our cooperation with Alameda County Sheriff's Office uh and the the partnerships that we have and we form with other uh regional police departments uh in including you know at US Marshals DEA things and and our federal our federal partners uh that we can work with so as as long as we continue to one use data-driven um uh information to target those people that are causing the most harm to our community uh the the guy who is committing robberies didn't start off committing robberies he started off committing property crimes so it w when we get that robbery we also reduce some of those other property crimes that go with it uh and I believe our I believe our department is one of the best at at identifying and targeting those folks that are creating harm throughout our community uh and and the people that work for your department work for our department it's just they're good and they they are invested in the city and they want to make it safer uh but that does that doesn't mean that there may not you know we had a bad weekend last weekend we had a homicide last weekend and seven no eight shot last weekend uh luckily we only had one homicide uh so we're gonna have ebbs and flows we are in the heat of summer it's it's August uh it's August the 14th if we can make it through this next 30 days hopefully that's when we ne we see that natural lull again uh to where uh crime trends go down so going into this time period right now with a 29 or 31 percent reduction in violent crime sets us up to have a good year.
Okay and the through the chair.
Uh do you think that it only has to do with your partnerships with the law enforcement agencies or would you also include what entities in the in the city would you include DVP?
Absolutely sir and thank you for throwing up that softball it's uh no yeah it it's it's our partners it's all of our partners it's our partners with the with community and neighborhood groups is our partners with DVP um uh and other city entities uh I was at a meeting today uh with uh Josh Rowland of of public works and the mayor she convened uh all of us the the DA's office uh office of city attorneys to try to address uh a bunch of the blight uh the trash the illegal dumping and and blight that's going on we are going to work hard to set up some operations to try to address those specific things and get those people that are bringing trash into our city um uh and to to stop that to so we're hitting it from several different angles uh but it it is the partnership with city departments and everyone throughout the city.
Okay thank you.
Hey Chief I have a question um I know DC has said she would bring it back as the deliverable around the timeline update regarding the extension we gave I don't know if you all have data on that yet the timeline up for the um the investigations and we extended it.
Yeah and I believe there was some there's there's some miscommunication uh on that specific topic okay because I I think you guys are talking about DLIs and that's not what that uh extension was for it was for something different and I can't think of the top of my head.
The use of force yes so so there there is um and and that does not go away if the question is is it helping us absolutely but uh it it's not the DLI.
No no it was the use of force and I think the question was it was around you were given extensions so we were curious to know are you having to give extensions past the new timeline we authorized and then how um effective has the change been for reducing stress and low um so I I can speak um with certainty that no we haven't have to extensions past that I work um I I sit in on all the force boards um and I track with uh the the Bureau of field operations on those um they have a robust tracking system in place that's following that the 92 14 uh timelines and it's been very helpful it's and actually saved the time of having to send up all the different from the prior timelines all the different um tracking this is it follows right through and it's much more smoothly and I'd I'd like to thank you guys for agreeing to it um great and then the other requests I have is if possible I know you all typically leave after your update but I know CIPR is doing a report out today and and just in case anything comes up if you could stay a little longer.
Absolutely great thank you.
Any um more commissioners before we open it up to public comment no okay public comment yes we do for this item vice chair we have miss Vail Miss Cleveland and Miss Kramer OPD five years I'm um both in relation to this item and the um you know the ongoing work of the NSA ad hoc um there's a lot of talk about culture and reforming culture and an example um was the Instagram site created by certain officers.
And virtually all of the posts were anti-black, anti-women, particularly being in the department, and anti-NSA policies, everything that have been mandated and supposedly implemented in OBD.
Everything relating to body cameras and and a whole lot of other things.
So I feel like and and no one the council doesn't talk about the level of um cultural individual officer resistance to the NSA reforms, but you've got to act with awareness, and most of you are not on the commission.
I think I've suggested previously that you get the Clarence Dyer report that was commissioned on the Instagram scandal.
Um which unfolded uh just you know in the year during the year prior to uh Chief Armstrong becoming police chief and the whole thing with the CROs.
I mean, when the two or three original parcel taxes, which I pay because I have a home in Oakland, the primary thrust was to fund community policing and um both with some civilian employees but within OPD.
And what OPD has done before, during and after the various budget crises, up to the present, is they have used the CROs as reservoir staffing for the department.
So you could have the the charter amendments because they've got to have 12 CROs and they've got eight, but most of the time they're working on other things, and um, you know, you talk about uh ballot initiatives and so that are passed by a city or by the state and then they're not followed.
Um, that's the story of community policing in Oakland.
Thank you, Miss Cleveland.
Um, Millie Cleveland with Coalition for Police Accountability.
Um, I think the issue of uh directions to OPD on how to interact with ice or not to interact with ice or what to do when ice is in the vicinity needs to be codified in some sort of memo, a written memo.
And I would like to share uh to the chief of staff for you to distribute a copy of a memo that came from the chief of police in Los Angeles that had specific directions to the area commanders, the watch commanders, the supervisors' responsibilities, um, and so I think that it's good to hear the chief say that we don't interact, but it me something needs to be codified in writing about specific directions when um ICE is in the area.
So I'm just sharing that document as an example for you to um maybe look at.
Um I was gonna say something else that you can't remember.
Oh, I also wanted to raise to the key on the the issue of uh timelines.
Um I've discovered that based on the language of the NSL NSA that refers always to department personnel that uh community complaints of misconduct against civilians working in the police department are also referred to internal affairs, and that may be part of what's creating a backlog.
So I don't know if you can talk to Warshaw about that.
An example is uh a guy wanted information from a record specialist about a vehicle, and he what it wasn't registered to his name, and the uh the record specialists refused to give it to him.
That turned into a community complaint, which went to internal affairs.
So some of that stuff is unnecessary.
Maybe you could talk to Warsaw about that, I think Miss Cleveland, Miss Farmer.
I mean, sorry, Miss Kramer.
I'm a bit confused, which happens a lot, um the issue of administrative leave, it needs to be clarified for the public.
Otherwise, we don't know what's going on, we don't know why, we don't know how.
Another contribu um all what I'm gonna say is all meshed together.
Um the attrition rate of officers.
I don't understand.
I mean, I hear a lot of reasons why, but I don't understand why, in substance people are leading the force, um, and I don't understand why there is such a low application and graduation rate of new officers from the academy.
To me, it boils down to one a real supportive sense of um community be amongst the officers themselves, so that then they could go out and establish a real working relationship with the communities that they serve.
But I I hear all of the problems and nothing being resolved.
I mean, we hear about police community relationships, that's all we hear is the word kind of bandied around.
So thank you, Ms.
Kramer.
Miss Mandal.
Thank you for adding me.
Um Rashni Mandal District 4.
Um, at the last meeting of the public safety committee, uh, the city administrator um actually gave a report that is in their agenda packet um about OPD staffing.
And what I found most important there was they interviewed all the officers leaving, all the people who are tritioning, and they were the top three reasons why they were leaving.
Number one, commute.
Number two, discipline policy, number three, NSA.
It's in that report.
Um, and then questions about if you're wondering about IAB sworn versus non-sworn cases, DLIs versus not.
Um OPD releases their IAB report as to what cases they do, the timelines, what types, um uh demographics, racial demographics they have to do it.
Um, and uh the 2023 report shows that there was over 1,500 cases for sworn officers.
Um so the data's out there, um, look for it.
And I know the 2024 report is forthcoming, and it was gonna be submitted to the court before the December date.
So thank you.
There are no more comments on that item, vice chair.
Great.
I'm sorry, good evening, Tony Lawson.
CIPRA.
Um, this should be a very brief update.
Just want to go over first with you kind of where our caseload is.
There are currently two, excuse me, 128 pending cases, that's a 10% reduction.
So we've been able to um move the process along quite a bit, although we're very shorthanded at this time.
We only have three investigators, um, and we only we've done a two-intake personnel, and I'll do what hiring shortly.
Uh, as with regard to um completed investigations, there were 23 total uh cases closed last month of those cases.
There was uh sustained allegations in just one case, and that case I think there were five allegations that were sustained.
All others were closed, either for uh unfounded or exonerated or not sustained.
Um in some cases, there were cases that were um lack specificity or were not cases that were mandated to be re-investigated by CIPRA, and then beyond that, I want to talk on three issues in terms of where we are on uh with hiring and with the AIB transition and with the mediation.
In terms of hiring, we've we presented an offer of employment to um for complaint investigator three, and they've accepted.
So we hope to get the new supervisory uh complaint investigator in the office probably next month, they're going through right now the clearance process, but we hope to have him aboard next month.
Um so we'll that's our that will be our first full-time uh uh investigator, complaint investigator supervisor in the office since I've come to the agency.
We've been dealing right now with the um contract investigator who's been overseeing investigations and intake.
Um so he's done quite a bit of work.
We've just completed the posting for uh complaint investigator two positions.
Um we had I think over close to 90 applicants, I think close to 30 of those applicants uh met the requirements for the position.
We will be doing assessments over the next three three or four weeks and probably in interviewing in September.
So we hope to get anywhere from uh two to four, maybe even five new investigators into the office by the year's end.
So we've been funded for seven uh full-time uh uh investigator two positions and and one full-time investigator three.
We hope to have them all on board by the end of this year.
Uh we're also looking to bring in a program.
Um, I mean, it's a project manager under contract probably next month.
That's the position we have approved, but to get them in more quickly, we probably wouldn't issue a contract first and then open the position up to full uh full-time hiring.
So we we're happy to say that we're we're able to now move forward and get more people on board.
We're we won't be probably fully staffed more to the early part of next year.
We will be hiring another attorney.
That's a position we haven't posted as of yet, but that is anticipated.
Um respect to uh the potential transition of responsibilities from IAB to CIPRA.
Uh we're working with the city administrators' office, and basically at this time we will be working towards creating uh a working group to deal with um, I guess look at the possibility of transition, what that would mean in terms of feasibility monetarily and in terms of uh uh human hours and whether that makes sense, and that that working group we hope to have the group together by the end of this year, this this this annual, I mean excuse me, this calendar year, and then that group will probably spend most of next year looking at um whether there should be such a transition, if so, what obligations that's the responsibility should be transitioned from IB to CIPRA.
So that group will probably consist of individuals, obviously from OPD to chief, uh, would definitely be asked to be a part of that working group, as will so will members or one at least one member of this commission.
I think we'll be looking at the city attorney and then other organizations within the city to have a working group to look at the possibility of transitioning uh IEB responsibility to CIPRA.
And then lastly, I want to talk to you about mediation.
We're working on uh the rules and procedures for mediation program.
They are roughly basically done.
I should be submitting them for review and acceptance or approval by the commission within the next week or so.
There's a few uh people we asked to look at it and should get back to me within the next week or so.
So it would be likely be on calendar either at the end of the the session at the end of this month or the latter section, a session in September, and it'd be for your approval.
And if it's approved, the next step will be um a meet conferred with the uh police officers union because this impacts the the officers that would be uh we wouldn't need to meet and confer.
But the mediation that is proposed is um is a more of a restorative justice manner, which is is not conflicting mediation, is more or less bringing the parties together to kind of get to work together and know each other better and kind of um get a better understanding from the community, what the officers do and from the officers' perspective, get a better understanding of the community field.
So we hope to get that to you and approved soon and then move forward uh with talking with the the union.
So that's uh the report from CIPRA.
Thanks, Director.
Any commission questions?
Uh thank you, Director Lawson, uh, for that report.
Um, that's amazing.
90 applicants.
Um you do an amazing job uh attracting people to come to your organization and uh actually to turn out and be qualified for the position.
That just sounds like a great statistic for me, and I want to give you a thumbs up.
Kudos for that, all the great work that you're doing.
Um what do you all do to promote like your positions?
Anything noteworthy you'd like to share.
We worked a lot with HR, it would be very helpful and because we previously posted a position before I came on as director, uh back I think in December of last year, and it was a small applicant pool when that position was not posted long, it was not posted in many locations.
So we made sure that it we extended the period by which you could submit an application, we made sure we had the application, I should say the job posting in as many places as we could.
Um we distributed to legal f legal organizations, other police uh police oversight organizations.
It just we just made sure it was a well d well distributed notice.
And when it seemed like we were maybe not getting as many people as we thought we could, we didn't extend it the period and sought other um places where we could solicit uh applicants.
So we fortunately we were able to get because uh although we had 90 applicants, only 20 plus, you know, meet the uh the requirements.
So you you really have to get it out there for a period of time and to a lot of people to to bring on uh individuals who satisfy the requirements.
Well, you did what you need to do.
It sounds like you did your due diligence, and I think also with you all just making yourselves available to the community probably helped as well, just build the brand or the name of you know the organization a little bit.
So kudos to you.
That's all I got.
Thank you.
Question questions, comment.
Um, me neither, but I do have a question, but it might be more for OPD, and I feel like I should know the answer to this.
So please forgive me if y'all, y'all, y'all know it and I don't.
Um for the sustained cases, um, is that included in the admin leave number?
If they're for the template for OPD, you know how with CIPRA we have the sustained cases.
Um asking the our officers who have sustained allegations also on the if they end up being um time off.
Yeah, I will thanks, Director.
Lost.
Um, if the question the question was if all the admin leaves are first.
No, not all of them.
But if they're the ones, the cases that are sustained and we and there is a discipline, um, and and that discipline is ten days off.
Is that included in that admin leave number?
I don't believe so.
The if they were if they're given a specific um days off, uh I it would if it falls under that time frame, I guess it could be, but usually the admin leave is like a is a longer thing and it doesn't necessarily attach to whether or not an individual is whether the investigation has come to a conclusion or not.
Sometimes it depends on what are the allegations.
Sometimes when uh an allegation is made um based off of that allegation, the chief uh will make a decision to put that person on admin leave until the conclusion of that investigation, so such as uh OIS is would be an example of that.
Uh other admin leave.
Yeah, it would it wouldn't necessarily be in regards to um like specifically a sustained if that's what the Yeah, and I mean I mean m maybe that that's a part of our template question when we get to it.
I I think it would be helpful to know of those sustained cases to have a total number of officers that are off the streets because of sustained allegations.
Um in addition to that, you know, because we we have the admin leave, but to know, you know, the we talk about the case size, so if some of that is due to that, it would be helpful to know.
Okay, I can take that as a rule.
Thank you.
Uh sorry to conflate the two, but I was looking at your report and I was just like, I don't think that's included.
So all right.
Any questions from the public?
We do have a comment from Miss Mondal.
Uh Rajny Mandel District 4.
I'm uh I would love uh to know when the SIPA annual report will come out uh for 2024, um just to see how many cases did they close last year and how many cases were closed after the 250 day deadline, which is more than the 180 day deadline for OPD.
Um, and then finally I would um also want to know why CIPRA requested 250,000 of taxpayer money from the city council to fund a study about Skelly hearings when it's really not part of the CIPRAS purview.
Um how were they able to convince council to approve this?
Um I heard that um uh council was informed that OPD has only one Skelly officer when they have right now 18.
Um, and was this money requested after discussion discussion with OPD and HR.
Who are the parties who are involved with Skelly hearings?
Thank you.
That is the only comment for that item, vice chair.
Did you write those questions down?
No.
Okay.
Um and director Lawson, you're happy.
Um you're welcome to respond if you want to, but I'm not suggesting that you do.
Um okay.
Um next item then.
We are moving right along to item number seven.
The ad hoc uh committee report out.
Um yeah, Chief, you you guys are welcome to go now if you want to, but happy to have you stay.
Um, we might we might need security.
Um staff search and evaluation ad hoc, Commissioner Williams.
Thank you.
Um yes, I'd like to report report that we had our kickoff um meeting on August 6th.
Uh we are developing the cadence.
Um, and this is ad hoc is designed to be closed to the public, but it's really important for us to get some public input.
So we are exploring um getting public comments around what should be in the evaluation, what criteria would the public like to hear um and have input on that via a survey, more to come, um more details to come on that.
I'll move right along since the next one is handcuffing.
Well, I think we need to see this um questions at the end of all of them.
All right, then.
That is true.
Okay.
Handcuffing is still under review.
We should have a date at our next meeting, and that will be uh a public facing ad hoc.
More details, Mr.
Chapdate.
Thank you.
Um, I don't really have much of an update for mine.
I've met with Dr.
Satter White earlier this week, and we'll be meeting with him again tomorrow to finalize our draft of the strategic plan for review with the other members of the ad hoc committee.
Um, and then we will bring it to the full commission.
NSA.
All right, NSA ad hoc.
We uh just re-kicked it off uh this past Monday.
Um thank you to everyone who is there.
Uh it'll be every Monday from 6 to 7 p.m.
moving forward.
Uh if you would like to come as a member of the public and ask a question, you're welcome to do that as well.
So I have he's not here, uh Commissioner Rows or Jack, do you either of you want to add anything?
It wasn't there yet.
Oh.
Uh it's uh the next meeting was scheduled for next what is it on Wednesday?
Wednesday is the third, yeah.
So it's not gonna be on Wednesday because there's going to be a discipline committee meeting that conflicts.
So the next meeting will be September third.
I think that's that following Wednesday.
Okay.
Um, uh in regards to the military equipment ad hoc.
Um we will be uh having a meeting on the 19th next week.
And uh I will be shortly uh finalizing a redraft of our statement, taking into account the comments from uh the commission about more specificity so that we will be able to uh in our uh statement back to the commission, be able to recommend approval or disapproval of various items uh in the military equipment report.
Um so that would be coming back to you after our meeting on the nineteenth.
We invite those of you who are interested to uh please attend.
And uh we've gotten comments from a lot of different sources about various pieces of equipment.
So um we will be taking all of that into account and in uh redraft of the policy to come back to the commission.
Um the next ad hoc is for the annual report.
Yes.
Um it is submitted in the packet if you want to see it as a draft for us to um take a look and offer feedback and then we will um vote on the final report in our next meeting.
Yes, and there's there's one thing uh that I saw right away is that the on page 28 the it for the inspector general it says um chief of police because I copied it from the page before.
So it has since been it has since been updated, but I truly appreciate two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve, and recardo.
Uh the that many pairs of eyes.
Yes, ma'am.
We got you covered.
Thank you.
Give us a um a deadline.
Thank you.
I'll give you the deadline.
Yeah, yeah.
I I've asked my beloveds to do that.
So it it is as it is right now, but there's uh the reason why it's there is to give you more time to kind of take a look and let me know what you see so that we can get that taken care of so that we can vote for it um for the next meeting because I'd like to be able to submit it by end of month to the mayor uh for the commission.
Quick question.
Do you have an editable version or how would you like us to submit our comments back?
Because I would definitely I'll give you access to Canva.
Oh, it's in Canva.
Yes, in Canva.
No, that's not gonna help me.
No.
Can we make it a Google Doc?
Yeah, I can I can I'll figure out something.
We'll work it out.
Yeah.
It's okay.
I can I I will send you a message.
Okay.
Every line by line.
I'll just write it out.
Okay, perfect.
No, Canvas had I mean you can put com you could put comments in Canvas.
She just has to go through every anyway.
We can sort that out later.
Um, okay, that's it for that.
So um any commissioners' comments on any of the ad hoc?
I actually do have one for Commissioner Riles.
Um for the militarized equipment ad hoc.
Are we keeping track of when we should be receiving impact reports from all the previous policies and or some of our uh state mandated reporting requirements?
Um I'm not sure what you mean about impact reports, but the department has been indicating when they have used the equipment.
Yeah, and why.
They're supposed to submit I think annual um impact reports based on what type of equipment.
And I don't think all of them are required but for some they are um anyway uh I asked that because we're not tracking it so um that's something that I need to integrate into our strategic planning.
I see so um I'm not trying to task you but I was just clarifying that so thank you okay thank you through the chair one second I like to disrupt this friendly ad hoc that's happening back there.
Can we all be included in the conversation or no is this public or closed in other words Sam you need to be in here.
Just just checking it.
Go ahead.
No I was just gonna say uh Commissioner Jackson Castain that subject has come up loosely um but uh nothing definitive has been provided yet okay I'll I'll integrate that and then get the timeline so that we know what our requirements are because they are annual I believe.
Any other uh questions for discussion public comment we do we have two one Miss Fail and one Ms.
Mondal okay Miss Vail's going to pass and Miss Mondal Rajni Mandel District 4.
I have reviewed the draft annual report and recommend that you remove page nine why oversight matters in Oakland and is never too much oversight does matter but it should be balanced and measured.
Too much of anything leads to imbalance and I disagree with the statement on page nine this statement isn't impartial or balanced and shows that the commission wants to overextend its reach at the detriment of the city.
Anybody with policy and regulatory experience knows that oversight and regulations are necessary but should never be excessive there is such a thing as too much regulation as it paralyzes function.
If this commission really feels there's no such thing as too much oversight then we'll continue to have an exodus of police officers since as I mentioned the top three reasons they leave the department or the commute excessive discipline and MSA oversight.
If this commission really feels that there's no such thing as too much oversight then you want to paralyze law enforcement in the city we're already imbalanced and if you want to tip the scales even more you should have shown your hand to be ideologues and uh not actual representatives of the city of Oakland thank you.
Miss Cleveland you can finish let me do this.
Millie Cleveland sure there you go Millie Cleveland with coalition for police accountability um I've heard from the police chief and I've heard from the public the narrative that oversight interferes with police operations.
Could you please ask the chief of police to provide at least three examples of any oversight policies that are interfering with police operations I think that would be beneficial to the public do you have a um the space now or would you like that to be a deliverable Chief Mitchell through the chair first of all again I think we started this meeting off talking about Roberts rules uh and every question that pops up in the from the audience is not one that needs to be addressed here.
Second of all, um I don't know that I've ever said that there's specific things that are happening in regards to why there's too much oversight.
So if she wants to point that out to me, or if someone from the from the diocese wants to point that out to me, then we then I'll address that specific question.
But um in regards to oversight, we I know the history here in regards to oversight and why it's in place.
And there are specific things that we need to make sure that we are doing to ensure that what happened in 2003 does not happen again or 2001 if I if I remember correctly.
So to to go through this specific question in regards to list three things.
Um I I it's not appropriate, it doesn't follow Robert's rules.
Thank you, Chief.
There are no more comments at this time, Vice Chair.
Great.
Umcoming future agenda items.
Uh yes, we have a community meeting that's going to be September 11th at Fremont High School.
Um there has been uh communications that have been sent out uh this coming week.
I'll make sure that there are public um announcements on radio for those stations that will actually publicize it for us.
Um there we plan to have information about the discipline committee process.
Um that's one of the things that has been asked of us.
Like, what is that?
What does that really look like?
Uh CIPRA is going to be presenting so that people are familiar with what CIPRA is and how they help the community.
Um we're looking to have a presentation on the IAB transition or process, and um also for mental health uh an overview of that as it pertains to the police department and why that's part of the police commission's purview.
And uh the OIG will also be introducing what they do so that the community understands why they're in place.
Uh those are the the things that we typically don't do that are going to be there, but of course there'll be um any other presentation that we might normally have, which is like OPD will provide their presentation.
Um let's see.
We are tracking the pursuit policy.
Uh recommendations from the vote for the commission.
Um the the date at first was uh no later than 9-11.
Did you want to kind of touch on that uh vice chair?
Sure.
Um the um commission and OPD have been working really closely behind the scenes with the necessary stakeholders to move this conversation along.
We do we are at a good place.
Um there are some um scheduling challenges that has come up and we do or we are aware of the 120 days.
We um understand that we are making um decisions based on that, and some um the vote will be coming up soon and September.
Um we do have the appropriate steps in place to manage the 120 day deadline that um everyone necessary to be involved is involved with that conversation and that extension.
Uh and that's all I'll say about that.
And we have one more thing that we're tracking is the OCA uh report.
They have a semi-annual report that there's to give, and I am working uh with the OCA um department or group to determine which day in September they're going to have that or for which meeting, and I'll just keep everyone posted.
That's it, Vice Chair.
Um, to add to the the it because it came up, and I don't know if it's more appropriate here or open form, but either way, it came up last meeting and came up today.
Robert's rule, getting questions answered, and um, you know, as a future thing, we are taking to account, as some of you have said, Micah is of one, and things that are not her job or not her job is a hard thing to do.
We are working behind the scenes to manage questions.
Um, we all do agree there's Robert's rules, but there's also timing and appropriateness and answering some questions and not and blah blah blah.
And so we are working behind the scenes to create a practice of tracking questions so that we can agendize them as well as have deliverables so that they're all clear so there's not this um concept of back and forth discussion.
So just know that that's already in the works.
It's not to be it's it's in in the process, and and then we'll handle that appropriately.
So that is the upcoming agenda item.
And any other commissioners like to add anything here.
Or ask, request.
Um Rajani, I love to invite you to the NSA ad hoc.
You know a lot.
So it is open, so we'd love to have you.
Um, any public comment?
Okay.
Rajni Mundal District 4.
Um, this is on topics that were brought up during the future agenda.
Um, uh portion of the meeting, last meeting.
Um, so I would like to again urge the commission to stay within its charter-defined role and not stray.
I brought up the city auditor's comments and how commissioners should not be involving themselves in administration of departments.
Alternate commissioners' farmers at the last meeting about his wellness initiative is in direct contradiction with the city auditor.
In addition, his involvement administration without approval from the rest of the commission is suspect at the least.
Finally, his comments about issuing recommendations about the police union collective bargaining agreement as part of the NSA ad hoc, are also in violation of the role of the commission.
I'll again quote the city auditor's report.
Quote, the audit found that the commission has involved itself in matters that limit its ability to address higher priority issues.
For instance, the commission has involved itself with administrative activities and has directed staff in the agency and OPD.
Much of its inability to complete all its man mandated duties stem from the commission not fully understanding its roles and responsibilities as a public oversight body.
The lack of understanding has led to the commission inappropriately directing staff and involving itself in the contracting process.
The commission's case conference statement about the NSA is another example of the commission working independently from the city administration, and it because it doesn't stay in its lane.
I recommend that the commission follow the findings and recommendations in the 2020 audit report.
Quote, the city administration and the commission need to repair their relationship without an improvement in their relationship.
Policy direction will remain unclear, conflict over roles will continue to escalate, and a lack of clarity regarding organizational direction will continue, affecting the commission's effectiveness and the public's confidence in the city.
Thank you.
Great.
Yes, we have one comment from Miss Cleveland.
No, for open forum right here.
Okay, she's passing on that now.
There are no more comments.
There are no comments for that chair, Vice Chair.
Great.
Uh meeting adjourned.
Shortly after this filming, Inspector General Michelle Phillips announced her departure from the city of Oakland.
As the inaugural IG, Michelle built the office from scratch.
She leaves behind established policies, procedures, and a path forward for the work of the Office of the Inspector General.
I wish only the very best for Michelle Phillips as she continues her work in civil service for the city of Minneapolis.
Thank you for your leadership here in Oakland.
Hello and welcome to Trail Chats.
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On today's episode, we are trekking and chatting with Michelle Phillips, Oakland's Inspector General.
Come along with us as we see what's on these trails.
It's a larger, bigger picture.
I think so too, and I think it'd be a great conversation to have.
We should talk more.
But tell me who is Michelle Phillips and how does your Oakland story begin?
I am just a public servant at heart.
I'm a people pleaser in a way that I believe that we need to give back.
When I received the opportunity living in Baltimore, I was the deputy inspector general for the city of Baltimore, and they were like, you know, we have this new office, and I talked to my daughter who's 20 years old, and she was like, Mommy, this is history.
Like, this is black history, this is woman history.
Go and show them what you can do.
Well, let's pause and say exactly what that history is.
So you are the inspector general for the city of Oakland.
It is the not only are you the first black woman in this position, you are the first person in this position.
2021 voters uh was it 2021 voters vote voted uh Oakland voters voted to expand Measure S1 and that's how your position came about?
So it was 2020 um S1 modified L.
Okay.
Um, to expand the jurisdiction of civilian oversight in the city of Oakland to strengthen it, and then to establish an office of the inspector general, which would help to supplement the community police review agency as well as the Oakland Police Commission that had already been established via Measure L.
So the OIG, the Office of the Inspector General was established to help to monitor an audit systemic issues that were potentially embedded in the Oakland police department, so we would look at patterns and practices of violations of civil rights and civil liberties of the residents that the Oakland police department serves.
So that was the charge of the office of the inspector.
Why Oakland?
Why now?
Why did the people of Oakland want this now?
Or need this now.
I think that they wanted it before now.
I think it was the time.
It was the perfect storm.
There were things happening nationwide.
We're talking about Freddie Gray to George Floyd, Brianna Taylor.
There were, you know, of course, here at BART, um, we had Oscar Grant.
So there were things that were happening.
And I think communities nationwide felt that there just was not enough transparency and accountability.
There may have been accountability embedded in police departments or in city government structures that were just not transparent to community so that folks knew what was happening and what procedures were being used to ensure that there was accountability for these individuals.
So are you shining light on the happenings within the police department, or are you working with them to to change their ways?
Tell me a little bit more about how what your day-to-day charge is in working with the police.
So I think it's it's a little bit interesting because there's not necessarily always this collaborative effort, right?
Because there is supposed to be this oversight entity.
We're supposed to oversee.
Overseeing is not interfering.
And I want folks to kind of understand that.
I am not a police officer.
We have to kind of empower the police to do what their charge is, but to ensure that they know that there is someone looking.
Got it, right?
So when you do take a misstep and you don't catch that misstep, I'm here to catch.
So you're not an enemy of the police, you're not looking for gotcha moments.
You're not an enemy of the community.
But what yours doing is just saying, I'm a third eye.
I'm okay.
I am here to understand.
Also to show community.
And on honestly, some of the police department um personnel as well, as we start to look at some of these policies that haven't been touched since the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s, that really just hamper ability for community police review agency or the internal affairs division to hold officers accountable.
These the language in these policies are outdated.
There's so much information that has changed as the landscapes changed.
When we start to talk about classification of protected classes, right?
These things have evolved over time.
I didn't think about that.
And we need to think about what discrimination truly is and what it looks like.
So we're looking currently now.
I am actually working with one of the lieutenants in the police department as we start to look at what cultural accountability in the police department looks like and how we can embed that in the policies so that officers don't forget where we came from, i.e.
the writers' cases and and the trauma that is embedded in the fabric of those issues in all of Oaklanders.
Don't forget, understand that you are here to change not only that narrative but the culture within, and we'll hold you accountable to it.
So we're working.
I'm saying again, as you were talking about earlier, holding you back there.
We're not holding you accountable for those people and what they did, but we're saying that is left a mark.
Yes.
The community remembers.
Yeah.
So now your job, police officers and those who work with, is to make it better or show us that you are trying to walk a different path.
And then you are helping with that.
Yeah.
What did you feel that you learned in Baltimore that you knew and were excited about bringing to Oakland?
What did what made you say, I did this here, I can do it at this level there?
So as I rose through the ranks in Baltimore City, I started as a special agent doing line investigations and then evolved into a deputy inspector general working with counsel, working with the mayor to say, listen, to your point, we're shedding on these issues.
These are areas and gaps that is holding us back in yesterday where we cannot build that trust in community, not only with the police department, but with all areas of city government, from elected officials all the way down to the line workers.
We have to be able to build that trust.
And I think that that was something that really just was embedded in me that I was like, I can have a seat at the table when I talk, people listen.
So now I not only have the credentials and the experience, but I can take this with me everywhere that I go because I also have the passion that serves as my purpose.
I've got some questions about that.
Can we walk a little bit?
Absolutely.
All right, let's do it.
So we were talking about this being a startup, somewhat like a startup.
I told you that I read an article where you were talking about how this position had you feeling, like you were the head of a startup company.
Everything was from the ground up.
Tell me more about that.
What does that mean that this was a startup company for you?
I would tell folks like it feels like a mom and pop shop, right?
Like I'm doing everything, I'm cooking, I'm I'm running to the cashier and I'm doing this and I'm doing that.
That's definitely how it was when I started the office.
I had to stabilize it.
We needed policies and procedures to govern how we do business.
When we're talking about accountability and transparency, that's what community wants.
They want to see how you are getting at the reports, the findings, the methodology, the scope.
So I was like, okay, before we really start pushing out any types of documents or reports, we need to start level setting and letting folks know.
So that's the first thing we needed.
I was in office of one for about five months when I started.
Yes.
You had no staff.
No staff.
You were hired into the position and walked in and you had no team to support you in this.
No team.
And I think, I think the the thought process behind that was, okay, well, that when the IG comes, then the IG can hire their staff.
That's a lot on your shoulders.
That is you not only stepping into a role that needs to be filled, that's being uh uh called on to be filled by the community and saying we want this.
So they want you to get to work.
Yes.
You're also ordering office supplies, hiring people, trying to design the the culture of your office so that not only the internal people understand it, but outside people know what to expect.
What kind of weight was that for you?
How did you handle that?
It was huge.
It was a lot of mental stress, a lot of emotional stress.
I I came from Baltimore to a city I had never been to.
I'd never been to the city of Oakland.
I knew nobody in the city of Oakland, but I knew that there was a point and a purpose for me to do this, and I I believed that Oakland deserved this position, and they deserved me to be the inaugural inspector general.
So I put my head down and tried to figure out the budget process.
I was still in the pandemic.
We were just coming out of it, but people were still kind of working from home.
So I'm trying to find who's in HR so I can start crafting job specifications for my staff.
Um I didn't have any budget for supplies, no budget for supplies.
I had no paper, no pens.
So the director of finance was like, girl, let me let me help you.
And I was like, can I just get some patients?
Let's take it to a closet.
You need to go to supply.
She would let me go up there.
She was like, just whatever you need, you know, to go down there.
Um, so maybe three or four days in, I finally got an office.
Okay.
So I sat there and I was like, okay, let me work with HR to start trying to figure out what this office will look like.
What vision I want for this office?
What kind of leader I want to be in the city of Oakland?
And that's kind of really how it started having conversations with council members, having conversations with the mayor, city administrator.
Of course, talking to uh Regina Jackson, who was was the chair at the time.
She was the one who hired me.
I was hired under her tenure, and just kind of letting her know what my vision was for this office and what I wanted to bring to the residents of Oakland.
But it was a heavy weight.
Oakland hazed me.
Feels like a bit of a, you use the word, I'll say that a hazing period.
How do you maintain your mental and emotional health?
What do you do to check in on you?
So at that time, I didn't.
I needed to understand what the challenges were that were specific to Oakland.
We can talk about police oversight in general, but Oakland is very different.
Oakland has its own culture, it has its own history, you know, and it has its own traumas that have been uh put upon the residents by the Oakland police department, and I needed to understand how that rooted in the social fabric of Oakland to be able to inform my work and how transparent and in what type of way I needed to be transparent with community because everybody's like, oh, we'll just put everything out there.
No, because I'm a new office.
Nobody has no what is an inspector general?
Never heard of it.
Right.
You know, what do you do?
Well, what's the difference between you and the commission and the community police review agency?
It's all these questions.
And so you're juggling that and trying to figure out how to how to maintain you and your staff at that point.
How do you support new staff in this new culture in this new environment?
And it was very interesting because, like I said, we had um pandemic time, so of course, work from home, and I'm like, we're a brand new office.
We need office culture.
Like we need to know who we are.
Um, while I was trying to get my permanent staff, I had temporary staff members come in and we knew that they were only gonna be there for a short time, which was really kind of hard because we did really great work in the beginning, but we knew it it was one year contracts, and at some point they were gonna have to be um transitioned out.
So we sat down and we helped to frame the vision.
I had some oversight practitioners, Dr.
Lee Anderson um is an overtype practitioner in this work, and she helped me kind of frame what we wanted to do with this office.
Um, and I think that it was a lot of sitting down and putting the structures, but I had no grace period.
How many staff do you did you wind up with in your team?
So budgeted, and our first budget, I was able to get eight, and I thank city council for that because I was able to justify why I needed this, understanding the negotiated settlement agreement, the responsibilities and roles of the compliance director and monitor, and at the inception of the negotiated settlement agreement that derived from the writers' case, the monitoring team had nine.
Um actually I think they had eight.
So I asked for nine, and I was like, you know, this is what they had, and they're not doing as much as as you want me to do.
It's a whole different conversation that we should talk about.
Um and it it's not to take away from them, but they had a set of tasks, right?
I still have to put a budget in place.
I have to still hire people in a different type of way.
There are administrative functions that this office must do.
Um, and and just a different type of realm than the independent monitoring team.
And then I have to report at police commission meetings and when I need to go to council meetings and then be in community, so community knew that I was here to be transparent and let them know that I am available.
If you have a question, please reach out to me because that's what we needed to do.
You said earlier, shed light on the evolution of police oversight and policing in Oakland so that we can ensure that there is constitutional policing, that is what is needed and wanted from our residents, and that's what we want to give them.
Do you feel like you're the team that you built and taking all that time and everything that you did to get there?
Now that we're looking back, standing here today, what are the top three things that you're most proud of for that you and your team have accomplished or become since day one?
Honestly, I'm just very, very happy about the credibility that the office of the inspector general has been able to create and establish.
Um I think trust is really, really important on both sides.
Um, our internal stakeholders as well as our external stakeholders, and we've done that with transparency and consistent communication.
I'm so proud of the evolution of my staff.
They've hunkered down and they were like, okay, let's find out everything that we need to know.
Get out in community.
Fostering those relationships is very, very important.
And I'm super excited about that.
We're moving forward with the ordinance, and I think that's important.
It will help to bridge the gaps that the oversight structure had when I came in.
It's hard when you don't have a practitioner to help with legislation.
So, you know, it's some fine-tuning that needs to happen so that we can move and crowd overall, super excited about the evolution of the OIG.
I love that.
Okay, we were talking about mental house, we're talking about how you maintain emotional side, how you support your staff.
Physically, we're out here in these lovely woods.
What do you do to physically stay fit and keep yourself going?
Can we like shout out the lake?
Love the lake.
Yes, um, it's a piece.
I love our lake.
So I will go and walk the lake.
I live right downtown.
So if I need to pop those ears.
I was just gonna say that I'm telling you, it's the place for that.
It's zone out and go around being community and talk to folks.
I also have a gym in my building.
Um, so I don't really sleep that well.
So I'll be in the gym at three o'clock or four o'clock just to get it out of my system and and lay down.
Um, and I also walk to work.
I walk to work.
We should probably do some more walking because we've been chatting and standing still for a minute.
Sure.
Let's walk.
Let's walk out.
I'm here for it.
Okay.
How does that work?
And what's one of the Inspector judge?
I'm I'm ha it's happy.
I will leave it.
It's okay.
Tell me what it's talking about for the future of Oakland.
I'm really, really, really optimistic with what I have been able to do in this leadership role, what the team has been able to do with this office.
I'm very, very excited about what the future truly holds.
I think I've started something great.
There will continue to be momentum and movement as we help to build better constitutional policing.
There has been that trajectory before I came here.
We've continued that momentum, and I'm sure it'll be here for years to come.
You are the inaugural Inspector General.
Yes, ma'am.
You are the first black woman inspector general.
You are what Oakland has right now, but I'm sure this is not the end of your journey.
Once you are no longer in this role for Oakland, how do you want to be remembered here in Oakland?
I definitely want to be remembered as a trailblazer.
Put mechanisms, systems, and internal controls in place so that we can continue on the appropriate path towards better constitutional policing as well as transparent police accountability in a way that everyone in the city of Oakland can believe and trust in the process.
It's needed, it's wanted, it's now.
How has coming to Oakland changed you, defined you?
What is coming to Oakland done for Michelle Phillips as an individual?
Oakland has grown, Michelle Phillips, as an individual as a professional.
I have been challenged, I have been disrespected, I have been demeaned, and honestly disregarded at times when all I wanted to do was serve my purpose.
It made me stronger, it built a resilience in me that I already knew was here, and it unleashed a lion, a lioness that is here to protect the people.
So regardless of these barriers that people put in front of me, I push through.
I will continue to push through so that the next Inspector General has an easier, better, clear path than I had.
Thank you for all you do.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it as a woman.
I appreciate it as a black woman.
I appreciate it as a resident of Oakland.
Thank you for what you do for our residents and for our community.
I appreciate you.
You're absolutely welcome.
And I just want to say thank you, Oakland, for choosing me when I was choosing you.
It's been really good chatting with you.
Thank you so much for trekking and chatting in this beautiful weather.
Thank you for telling me about who you are and shedding a little bit more light on the office of the inspector general.
Thank you for the opportunity.
I appreciate you as well.
Should we walk some more and chat some more?
I think we should.
Alright, let's keep going.
Come on.
I was really excited to hear you talking about some of the shifts and the changes and just it's exciting.
Like I'm really, I don't know.
I'm proud of you and proud for you.
Oh, thank you so much.
I'm really proud for Oakland, right?
My name is Erica Mitchell, and I take BART from 19th Street to Coliseum.
I'm Howard and I ride from Powell Street Station to the Berkeley station.
As a native of San Francisco and native of North Beach, I've uh ridden BART since its opening.
So that's over 50 years ago.
Voters are going to the polls in record numbers today to decide on the proposed Bay Area rapid transit system.
It was the biggest project in our region.
So not only was I observing the construction in San Francisco on Marcus Street when I was in high school and college at San Francisco State.
You could see the entire project unfolding.
It was always in the news.
I'm from DB Soakland.
I don't think I would be where I am today if it wasn't for Bart.
My early summary on Bart is going on Bart with my mom, my brother, and my dad from Coliseum to 16th Street Mission.
We went and got like these amazing burritos for the first time.
I just felt so adult going to the station in the morning with all the other commuters with my little backpack and I got to listen to music and daydream and think about the life that I want to have.
I currently go to SF State.
People always forget that BART is a very, very young system.
It's only like 50 years old.
So the system is going to be constantly evolving just like it has in London and Paris.
If I didn't have BART, I would be at home.
Like I would be sitting at home.
As a student and someone coming from an immigrant family, there was this sense of democracy, of a democratic benefits of uh a public transit where all people had access to a system which was fairly affordable.
If Bart wasn't around, I don't think this relationship would be where it is now.
I don't even think I would be where I am right now if it wasn't for BART.
Oh, man.
The time is now nine forty two AM and this meeting may come to order.
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We'll now proceed with taking roll.
Councilmember Guiles absent.
Councilmember Houston.
Councilmember Wong present and Chair Fife.
Present.
Thank you.
We have three members present, one absent, Councilmember Guyo.
Before we begin, Chair, do you have any announcements at this time?
I do have uh one announcement to make, and I see very familiar faces in the chamber.
Many of you who we've shut down this chamber on the issues of arts funding, and over the years we've seen a consistent decrease in those dollars, and it was particularly devastating when we saw the removal of the cultural arts manager from uh the budget this year.
So my announcement is that we have talked to the city administrator, worked with our budget administration, and we're bringing that uh that position back full time.
So I wanted to, I want to it's important to state that this this item, um, this particular position does bring in revenue to the city.
It also is the foundation for building relationships and fostering uh these artist relationships that are so critical to the city of Oakland.
Oakland is arts and culture, and I I think it's important to state that this is not this will not be funded by one-time revenue, it would be funded by ongoing um funds in the city of Oakland.
So we don't have to worry about that being cut any time in the future.
So I just wanted to make that announcement.
Madam Clerk, we can move on with the agenda.
Thank you all for your pressure.
Thank you.
Noting that item number one, approval of the draft minutes.
Since this is a special meeting, there are no minutes to be approved.
Item two, determination of scheduled outstanding committee items, also known as the pending list, and we do have two speakers that signed up for this item.
Okay, calling in the names that signed up for item number two, Vanessa Wong and Asada Olabala.
Good morning.
My name is Vanessa Wong.
I'm the chair of the Cultural Affairs Commission, and I just wanted to thank everyone, both in the chamber and on the dais and on the council who have worked to uh bring this position back in your infinite wisdom.
Uh, I think it is a really important move.
And I hope, in addition with that, that you will remove any strictures on the meager amount of funding that is available to the staff to allocate to the field.
And I just want to remind folks, of course.
Anything that gets allocated does go before this committee, and it does get approved by the full city council.
And I would just urge you to let the staff do their job in allocating the funds in the most effective way for what the field needs since they are the closest to the ground.
So thank you very much for your efforts.
You talk about what's devastating.
What's devastating is that we have no one who is a director of homelessness.
We don't have a director of human services, but you up here talking about how we've been accomplishing something by having somebody over a culture manager.
You need somebody in place to deal, particularly when you got people like Wong denying the homeless community in Chinatown.
That's what we need to pay attention to these over 5,000 people who've been on the street with the numbers never decreasing.
But we're gonna talk about how devastating it is not to have a culture manager.
It's too insulting that you pay and how we don't have anybody paying attention to the devastation of African Americans having 8.9% unemployment in this city.
Because you have a dysfunctional workforce and economic department who pays no attention to the African Americans in this city.
That's devastating.
What's devastating is we don't have the ability to concentrate on the racism that's going on in this city.
We have a department of a race and equity office that's underfunded.
We need to support that department, eliminating the racism and the lack of equity in the city.
The devastation is too insulting to me to be having you applauding a cultural person being here to manage culture.
And we got people dying in this city from Fentanole, and nothing's being done.
We don't have a health department in this city.
We need a health director to deal with the health devastation going on.
So all these people are applauding.
It's for them.
But when you look at the total city, what's the higher priority?
It's not culture.
Thank you for your comment, Chair.
That concludes our speakers on this item.
Thank you.
I will I I will take the uh prerogative of the chair.
And all of you all in the audience know that arts creates jobs in our community.
Arts is a big part of several organizations that I work with in District Three, several nonprofits that use arts as therapy, that use arts as healing.
I've been involved in many prison programs where we work with incarcerated folks, and arts is one of the ways that they get through every single day.
So just because some people don't know doesn't mean it's not true, and I appreciate every single one of you all for being here today.
Madam City Clerk, we can call the role the vote, the motion.
I'll move the item.
I'll make a motion.
Seconded.
Thank you.
That was a motion made by Council Member Fife, seconded by Councilmember Wong to approve the determination of scheduled outstanding committee items as is on roll, Councilmember Guy's absent.
Councilmember Houston.
Yes.
Council Member Wong.
Uh yes.
Aye.
And Chair Five.
I thank you.
Item number two passes with three eyes, one absent guy.
Reading in item number three.
Adopt a resolution honor honoring the creators of co-founders, the musical, for their contributions to Oakland's cultural and educational landscape and for enhancing the city's value of innovation, racial justice, and community empowerment through the performing arts.
And we have one public speaker that signed up for this item.
We have a brief slideshow to show as well.
And I would like to welcome after we hear from our public speaker.
Well, Councilmember Wong, do you want to um give some introductory remarks before we hear from our speaker?
Absolutely.
So uh Mayor Lee actually had encouraged all of us at City Council to uh check out this musical uh co-founders, and I have to be honest, I'm not even a musical person.
I don't generally like them, but this one was uh truly um it was astonishing.
Um I was amazed it was it could not be more the definition of musicality innovation and just um, you know, the theater, uh the stage, the the storyline was also so authentically about Oakland.
Um, and also many of the actors that I got to meet are actually living in from Oakland, and it really spoke about um you know the challenges of equity in our digital economy, um, about gentrification happening uh in West Oakland, and um we uh wanted to uh uh put forward a resolution.
Thank you, Councilmember Five for co-sponsoring this.
That way uh we have an opportunity to really feature and hopefully bring this musical to Oakland because it was out in SF, the ACT theater, but we want to see this uh musical come to Oakland and I also understand that ACT is a yes, we do, um, and it should really I think it it is the definition of Oakland pride of black ingenuity and um it was amazing and I also understand that ACT is a launching pad for uh Broadway, and I think that would be an amazing way to bring some tourism here to Oakland.
So uh that's all I have to say.
Well said, thank you.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
Uh giving me a moment to be with you this morning.
This is a good news day, and I wanted uh thank uh both of you for being here today because you make us very proud, and everything that um our council members have said I associate myself with in terms of the importance of uh our arts and cultural community here, the people who uh are the heart and soul of Oakland.
Uh it the arts are force multipliers in terms of not only bringing the beauty and and the narrative about the the glass half full of Oakland to Oakland and to the rest of the country and the world, but also uh the economic benefits from uh a vibrant thriving uh arts community, and so this recognition today is really uh for me very um in a lot of ways very personal because uh it was uh a moment in San Francisco that uh we witnessed the beauty of Oakland.
And so personally, I'm saying, wait a minute, I'm the mayor of Oakland.
And so we had to figure out I want to thank uh council member Wang uh and Councilmember Five for working together to do this today to honor you, and to um just say that Oakland is a city because of you where art uh drives change.
That's right.
And uh the work is really rooted in our creative ecosystem, it's shaped by local voices and in conversation with the real issues and which uh and the communities that we face and co-founders is the perfect example of what and who Oakland is.
And so, yes, we want co-founders here in Oakland.
Uh we're talking to everybody around the country why we want it here, how much it's gonna cost, and so just know that um this is a very humbling moment for all of us, but we want to just thank you very much.
Uh co-founders was sold out each and every performance in San Francisco, and so uh Oakland deserves this also, and so just um thank you.
Uh, we're gonna continue supporting uh the arts and cultural leaders who uh challenge assumptions, who lift up underrepresented voices, and who are part of moving Oakland forward.
So thank you for being here, God bless you.
Thank you so much.
Wow, wonderful.
Oh, man.
Let me let me just oh, I was actually able one evening to present the mayor's proclamation at the American conservatory theater in San Francisco to our Oakland artists.
So let me just uh present.
Um I don't how much time am I allotted?
We'll give you five minutes.
Five minutes is excellent.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
Thank you, Mr.
Wang.
Councilmember Fife, thank you so very much.
Everybody here, all the council members, all the staff.
We are so grateful.
You know, this is an extremely humbling experience for us as well.
We stand on the shoulders of all the artists and culture makers that we've been working with for the 20 plus years of our careers.
This is the work I've been in this council chamber multiple times over my career as an executive director and an arts advocate as an advocate for youth as a young person myself over the last 30 years advocating for this exact uh change.
It is very rare that I get to come in for a celebratory moment.
And so I I just kind of want to sit in here and marinate on this moment where we are able to reinstate the cultural affairs manager position.
I celebrate you all for that.
Because we know there is no cultural department without somebody who is managing it and overseeing how money is allocated and uh to celebrate a show for which we've been working on for eight years, but really our entire careers represent in our lives here in Oakland.
I'm a third generation Oaklander.
Adisha, you're a second generation Oaklander.
First generation Oaklander, but has been here her entire life, and we have particularly dedicated our time and our careers here in the city.
As you know, most of our talent gets exported.
I just want to um highlight some wins of our show to demonstrate the capacity and the ability for shows like this for arts and culture to generate revenue, to um celebrate culture, uh, to be a signal boost to issues around equity um in our city because we know culture moves the needle because culture moves the hearts of the people.
We can make policy, we can do all the things that we need to do, we can build infrastructure, so on and so forth.
But if the heart of people aren't moved, they don't make those changes.
And so if we could please just go to our um, I don't know who has it, but if somebody has the the quick PowerPoint, I'd love to just thumb through to slide number three.
We've gotten to hear the story.
Yes, the vision.
Uh our vision for the show, uh, just so you know, is to take this show from the bay to Broadway.
Um, and our objective has been to bring uh a rich experience um to broad audiences.
We were able to impact an audience from the age ranges of eight years old to eighty-five years old in San Francisco, communities representing social and economic uh folks that you know are are really on the margins to people who are making multiple millions of dollars, sat shoulder to shoulder in the audience together.
Um, let's move on to the uh the impact.
This is what I want to show you.
We were able to see just about 10,000 patrons in the American Conservatory Theater.
We thank ACT for um their co-production and support in this effort.
The average age of our um our folks uh that came to the show was uh age 41, but again, we saw folks from age eight to age eighty-five.
We got to have 58 young black coders from black girls code come into our audience.
Um who were deeply inspired.
We uh have generated just about 792,000, 90, yeah, 792,000 in revenues and impacted uh the hyperlocal community, and this is a conservative number.
Uh, just about 300,000, and I mean just the businesses around us.
That is a one million dollar impact for a six-week production.
This is what is possible when arts and culture is rooted in a city, when there is infrastructure, when the city gets behind it to support arts and culture.
I can only imagine what could happen in a city like Oakland with this kind of investment.
We know that uh arts and culture bought 1.4 million dollars to Oakland over the last year.
Last year, that's a conservative number.
This is more than 90%.
Uh just this show was generated more than 90 percent revenues.
We can go to the next one.
Uh the streets are talking.
It's a hit.
You know, we had many, many people blow up on our social media.
You could go to the next one.
Media hits of the Wazoo.
These are some of our media features.
K-A-L-W-K-P-I-X, Cron.
You may have seen us in the Chronicle several times, the National Alliance for Musical Theater.
We did some stuff locally, but we also did things nationally.
Forbes, Bloomberg, Broadway World, you know, all reached out to us, did feature stories on our show because we were making that much noise, celebrating a show about Oakland's hustle.
It says it right there.
Let's uh move forward, please.
Thank you so much.
Oh, almost there.
Um, we were able to do this through a grassroots engagement, organic growth through community collaborations.
We spent 10 months in a warehouse that we were able to obtain for free.
For 10 months, we we produced events, hyperlocal events with partnerships from local community organizations.
East Bay Yesterday, High Wave, um uh the American Conservatory, yeah, Robot Heart, so on and so forth.
We want to move forward to the next slide, please, really quickly.
This is our path.
We've been in development since 2016.
We're hoping in 2026 that we see an Oakland presentation and an off-Broadway presentation.
And our goal is to take this from the Bay to the Broadway, but our stop has to be in Oakland in 2026.
We thank you all so much.
This is what the the cap the possibilities are with arts and culture and investment in arts and culture.
Um, and we want to make that same kind of impact in Oakland, California.
We know we can.
Thank you very much.
Shout out to the team back there, co-founder Diana Leaf, Angel Adere Kun.
Uh, we've got Joy Meads, we've got Elizabeth Newton, we've got our co-producer Anthony Beniziale in the house, uh, and my husband and my baby girl back there.
Thank you, guys.
Are there comments or questions from the committee?
If not, I will entertain a motion.
We have public speakers.
Yes, Councilmember Houston.
She said we want, right?
Why didn't we have it in Oakland?
Well, we got the we got the the the Kaiser J.
We have the Oakland Museum, and she's brilliant, and they're doing it in San Francisco.
We need to bring that revenue to Oakland to to the I went and saw Kevin Choice at Yoshi's, he's out here, right?
Um, and that was my first time seeing him.
He was brilliant, right?
I was like, damn, I'm a fan.
No, for real.
I tell him all the time.
So I'm saying we have all this art.
We have all these artists, these brilliant individuals.
We have the Kaiser J.
We got the Coliseum, we have, we need to embrace the people that are here.
And everybody knows I keep saying Oakland first, Oakland.
And the mayor's, uh, I didn't get to see the play.
Um, I want to see it, so when are we coming to Oakland to see it?
So there it is.
I just want to say, um, I should have been an artist.
My father died.
No, my father died when I was 12, and I I used to always invent.
And after he passed away, um, I got off track, but art kept me back.
So I became I started doing art with, you know, design and buildings, because that was my form of art, right?
So art does have a huge impact in our lives.
So we need to keep our artists here in Oakland.
Oakland first, Kevin Choice.
I love that that at the Yoshi's, you was jamming, brother.
So I'm gonna say this.
Let's do this in Oakland, okay?
Thank you.
Um, and then one thing I I forgot to say in my remarks before, but uh the points that the mayor made as well as um the points around moving people to define policy and make policy.
I want to stress that actually, after watching this musical, um, I think one of my takeaways was like, yeah, like there really is a problem if there's barriers to um if you if we don't have communities like the black community uh being represented in the technology economy, like the outcomes are gonna be injust.
And um, I was realizing like Asada, that might be fiction, but really there's young Asadas everywhere in Oakland, actually, and uh reach out to the hidden genius project.
Um they're actually cultivating the next young Asadas, um, to code, and yeah, I think uh we we met this last weekend, and she had some ideas on how we might support um the efforts, and so we can actually ensure that we have a more equitable tech economy, and it should be the counterpoint to what's happening in San Francisco.
So, yes, that was the policy point that was made by the play, and the musical was really heard.
Marilee.
And I just want to say this.
Uh, I have had the privilege to visit many cities around the country, many countries around the world.
Art and culture are infused in every single departments of of agencies and public entities, and so one goal I have is to look at how we can make sure, for instance, in our public works department and our housing department and our transportation department, how arts and culture uh can be integrated into our work, and that is an important uh first step here.
I think to be able to really embrace fully uh arts and culture as as the heart and soul of of Oakland.
So thank you all again.
The cultural strategist in government program that's been going for three to four years now.
Um many of these folks here, Rashida Chase back there, have been cultural strategists in government.
They have worked hand in hand with the economic and workforce development department, the the you got you all know these things.
They work with council member Fife, so on and so forth.
So the the um infrastructure is there, it already exists, and we'd love to reinstitute it.
Um, you know, with the reinstatement of the cultural affairs manager.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you all for turning out.
If you did not get the opportunity to speak, there will be another opportunity to speak in open forum.
Um, Madam Clerk, call the room.
Um moving to our public speaker.
Oh, we have a public speaker.
I apologize.
The hypocrisy of how you appreciate art.
The the black man, the African American gentleman who has been coming to this city for years for the jazz museum to be put in place has been ignored.
The last time he was here, it was something about the structure being too high, he would have to work on getting it down lower, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The African American history museum down the street is struggling because it doesn't get support.
Arts and Soul Festival has been eliminated.
A lot of so-called black artists and vendors have been pushed out.
The brother that owns the lounge on 14th Street is supposed to have gotten support from the city, and y'all reneged on that.
So don't tell me about how you support black people in this city related to the arts.
When is that jazz museum gonna be built?
Uh this uh honoring, don't forget Art Shanks Jr.
You approved last June that auk Sanks Jr.
would be honored with a plaque and street changing on Mandela.
It hasn't happened.
You told his son he would have to do some things.
No, he doesn't have to do anything because the resolution said the city administrators should move forward to let it happen to that black man.
It didn't happen.
It's wonderful to see a musical that deals with uh issues and themes of racism and gender equity.
We don't have that going on in the city of Oakland.
We don't have it going on.
When you have gentrification, you mentioned wrong gentrification.
I asked you over and over to bring up the issue of gentrification and what we doing.
It's never been discussed.
And Oakland and San Francisco's number one in the country for gentrification.
You talk about uh the the issue of segregation, we got it going on in this city.
Thank you for your comments.
We have a motion made by Chair Five, seconded by council member.
I can't I I'm going to take the chair's prerogative again because there's so much disinformation going on.
I am in deep relationship with David Allen.
He's the architect of the jazz museum.
He's actually the uncle of Dominique Walker, who was the co the co-founder of Moms for Housing.
I talk to David Allen regularly.
So let's be clear.
Don't we can't just come to these meetings and put out misinformation?
If just because you're not a part of a process doesn't mean a process is not happening.
So I want everyone to understand that this is a moment of joy.
We have adopted AMLO to clean it up regularly so that they don't have to worry about the trash that is constantly floating around the AMLO.
So community ready core has adopted the space.
We've cleaned it up.
Uh I wanted to mention that.
And we are also working with artists throughout the city and black businesses throughout the city.
So if the only thing you do is come to a council meeting to complain about what's not being done, there are opportunities to work with many organizations to contribute to the beauty and the fabric of our city.
And I encourage everyone to join an organization and get involved.
Thank you.
Call the vote.
Thank you.
That was a motion made by Chair Fife.
Second by Councilmember Wong to approve the recommendation of staff and to forward this item to the September 16, 2025 Special City Council meeting.
Yes.
Councilmember Wong?
Yes.
And Chair Five.
Yes.
Thank you.
Item number three passes with three eyes, one absent.
Guile to forward this item to the September 16th, 2025 Special City Council agenda on consent.
Um uh sorry.
Reading in item number four, adopt an emergency ordinance.
One declaring a shelter crisis in the city of Oakland pursuant to the California government code section eight six nine eight and making findings that the significant that a significant number of persons order in the chambers, please, are without the ability to obtain shelter, and that the situation has resulted in a threat to the health and safety of the per those persons.
Two, for the duration of the shelter crisis, authorizing the city administrator to a suspend provisions of state or local regular regulatory statutes, regulations, and ordinances prescribing standards or procedures relating to housing health or safety for shelter facilities.
B, enter into a below market leases or licenses with homeless services, providers to land owned or leased by the city by the city for the purpose of providing emergency shelters or transitional housing, and see renew existing professional services and or grants grants agreement with homeless service providers in an amount not to exceed $250,000.
Uh $250,000 above previous years.
It providers meet performance outcomes in previous years and three making sequel findings, and we have two speakers that signed up for this item.
Before we go to the presentation of public speakers, I believe Councilmember Houston has a remark.
Yeah, just wanted to share that we got Kat Brooks in here also.
She's an artist too.
You know, she look at her plays, you know, because she she's good too.
So I I don't want to recognize my sister.
Thank you, Councilmember Houston.
We'll have our presentation.
Thank you.
Chrissy Love, community homelessness services.
I just want to touch on a few things, and one is the need for urgency.
Is that the current shelter crisis ordinance expires on September 19th, which means this needs to go to council on the 16th in order to keep it going and keep things moving along the same lines with contracting and whatnot?
And just to point out that homelessness continues to be a crisis in the city, the 2024 point in time count showed 5,485 people experiencing homelessness.
It's a nine percent increase over the 2022 count, which is it showed that homelessness, the rate is decreasing, but the numbers are still increasing.
I believe previous count was 20 something percent above the prior one.
So 9% is not too bad, but it's still bad enough.
Of those counted, 369, 67% are living without shelter, means in encampments and cars on the streets.
This is also a racial equity issue, as a majority of those experiencing homelessness are black.
53% as compared to 22% of the general population.
And just a caveat, the pit count is largely viewed as an undercount.
So the numbers are very likely higher.
And a background on the ordinance since 2017, the city has had a shelter crisis ordinance in place.
Each ordinance has been in place for two years.
Despite the number of shelter beds and resources offered by both the city and county, the need continues to exceed the capacity.
Shelter crisis ordinances have been renewed every two years as the state shelter crisis statute has been extended.
In 2024, the state shelter crisis statute was extended to January 1st, 2036, thus allowing cities to adopt longer term ordinances.
And that's my presentation, keeping it short.
Thank you for that.
Sure.
So do we have any questions or comments from the body before we go to our public speakers?
Councilmember Houston.
Public speakers is first.
Calling in the names that signed up for this item, Mrs.
Auto Olabala and Ms.
Tania Scott Smith.
Very pleasant.
Good day.
I'm not here to fuss for head start today.
I'm here as an outreach pastor and an entertainer who this year celebrated 50 years as a professional artist.
And I know firsthand, I won't be able to get through the whole letter that I have prepared to send to all the council members, but I'm going to get through as much of it as possible.
I stand firmly in favor of lifting the moratorium on group homes and shelters in Oakland, California, because far too many of our unsheltered are children and youth.
These are young people who have aged out of the cradle to carceral system or fled, unsafe environments in a desperate attempt to preserve their mental and physical health.
Oakland must become a sanctuary for those with no safe place to call home.
I know this need firsthand.
I was once a 16-year-old homeless black girl with a three-week-old baby from incest, disenfranchised and abandoned by the very systems meant to protect us.
We need more than words and well-meaning intentions.
We need safe spaces, not just to survive, but to thrive.
That's why I've been advocating for a wraparound services center modeled after CETA in Sacramento to be housed at either the old Walmart or Greyhound locations.
Such a center could serve as a hub for coordinated care, education, salute, housing, and healing.
My commitment to this work is not new, it is lived.
We've spearheaded the funding, creation, and launch of a mobile classroom to reach unsheltered families, bringing education and family support services directly to them.
I've collaborated with ICAC to help launch the Safe Car Park program, fought to secure RV homes from Governor Newsom and work to build and utilize tiny homes for housing and secure students and families at Peralta Colleges.
Since 2014, I have served as an outreach pastor walking through camps and doing boots on the ground ministry every week, every season, in every form of weather.
Please support this.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's great.
We need more people to speak up for the homeless.
So today at 3 o'clock, the Alameda County Board of Supervisors are going to be taking up Measure W and how to spend the money for homelessness.
Now, if I go to the meeting, I'm gonna tell them not to give you the money.
Because you have not demonstrated a commitment to the homeless community.
You have not made a commitment to the homeless community, and you're taking money, but you're not getting results.
That's serious.
I went and wrote down every homeless shelter that we supposedly have in this city.
Then I wrote down the districts that they're in.
And some districts take no responsibility, like yours, Wang in Chinatown for the homeless.
And you tend to have most of the homeless community and districts, your district five and district seven and six, where we have a disproportionate amount of the homeless there.
You have no homeless director.
You have a mayor that has not taken the banner up significantly.
Every time I turn on the TV, the mayor of San Jose is talking about how he is dealing with the homeless situation.
Every time I turn on the TV, how San Francisco mayor is dealing with the situation of the homeless.
So we'll continue to thank you for your comments.
Chair, that concludes our speakers on this item.
Thank you.
Are there questions?
Councilmember Wong?
Yeah.
So I think the thing that I really want to dig into here overall agree with most of the recommendations, but this is a renewal of a number of contracts.
And I'd like to understand how are you able to really distinguish?
Because I I have heard anecdotally certain providers, I'm not saying that it's necessarily true, but that uh certain providers are not providing the services at an adequate level.
And how are we really evaluating how are we really evaluating these nonprofits that are providing these services?
And my second question is I actually I do share Mrs.
Asada's concerns around the lack of a director of the department and how can we help on the hiring front?
So yeah.
I'll refrain from answering that part.
But we do each contract has performance objectives, and we do it usually by intervention type.
For instance, safe RV parking has different outcomes objectives than say transitional housing.
So they're similar but different, and we evaluate them on a quarterly basis through reports through the county system, which is based on the federal system, and we also are in contact with providers regularly, meeting with them, site visits, things like that.
And if there's an issue, we bring it up to the provider.
Look, how come you're not having enough exits to permanent housing?
And we discuss that, and we try to help or we and we listen to the challenges they're facing.
And then after the third quarter of each fiscal year, we do an evaluation for what could possibly be renewed the next year and what maybe needs to end, and then we'll plan.
If we're ending a contract, we'll plan out ideally a year, if not six to nine months of somewhat of a window, similar to what was happening with the building opportunities for self-sufficiency contracts on Wood Street.
We knew they had to end, and we planned for an entire year for that ending.
It just kind of went differently than what we had planned.
But so there is a lot of evaluation that goes into that and discussions with the providers why they're not meeting objectives or kudos for doing wonderfully.
Especially given the fact that we're about to uh work with the county on the measure W funding and the distribu distribution of that.
What have you noticed in terms of providers that do well and providers that aren't are failing to meet their obligations?
What are some things to look for?
Well, it varies organization to organization and also population to population.
It's it's very challenging to get transitional aids youth from transitional housing into permanent housing when they might be dealing with an awful lot of trauma in addition to getting support to obtain their first job.
And I don't know about anyone here, but my first job, there was no way I was able to afford to live by myself.
So what we're doing is we're asking them to the providers get these people ready to be able to afford to live on their own through mates or what their own housing, and that's quite a challenge for them.
And that's why those programs, specifically for transitional age youth, are two-year programs.
Because it takes quite some time, and you're dealing with a history of trauma in some of these young folks.
Okay.
Um, I guess this is a question to the chair, actually.
Um I have heard that there is actually a working group that is interested that one of the services that we are currently lacking, and it doesn't have to be funded through this specific pot of funding, is that we need a lot more safe parking sites, that the transition away from, for example, if you've been living in an encampment for 10 years is you need to have a graduated transition that many people are not prepared to go immediately into housing, and so I'm wondering if there's an opportunity to, you know, look at whether it's this set of funds or maybe the measure W funding to ensure that we are funding that type of um act services that we're hearing from the unhoused community that they want to see as part of their transition away from homelessness.
Well, I think the the staff that we do have in housing and community development has a lot of experience and understands that there does need to be some transition there.
Uh uh this is not necessarily an item that's currently agendized, but it is something that we should work on in partnership with our very experienced staff so that we can make sure that um whatever we're doing in the city of Oakland with the funds, you know, knock on wood, because we you know they haven't been planned for measure w yet, uh, that we're doing the right thing with those dollars.
Um I'm not sure if you had anything else to add because I do, council member, want to kind of piggyback on what you were saying about service provision and some of the complaints that we hear from providers.
Um, it's something that I've I've spoken with staff about, but I do want uh for when this information comes back in our annual report to to staff to have uh more details around what we're hearing from uh some of the providers so we can determine if there's a pattern because anecdotally it looks like there may be, but I would definitely ask for more details around um what we're hearing back from the community uh that lives in in our interventions as well as the community around those interventions, um, in terms of uh how services are being provided, because that's one of the biggest barriers for people even wanting certain interventions in their neighborhoods because it looks like the service providers that provide uh the housing and and all the wraparound services are not maintaining the space.
So when this comes back in the annual report, I would like to figure out how the staff can work around a detailed uh a more detailed analysis of service provision and what we're hearing from community.
Um Councilmember Houston.
So I like to I don't share anything if I don't have experience on it.
I just don't.
I do you'll see me sit back, but if I have personal experience, that's where I share, right?
And I'm not trying to press anyone, I'm trying to press upon you.
I stayed in the homeless encampment for a month.
This was like 2016, and I'm a subject matter expert on graffiti vandalism, illegal dumping, and homelessness with the state, the county, and the city, right?
And and we have a policy coming down the pipeline, which is the encampment abatement policy.
And I just want I'm gonna be all over the place, then I'm gonna come and hone in.
Um we they closed down um district uh um 12th Street in Wayne's district.
Those RVs came to my district, right?
And I'm getting and and I don't want district seven to take the blunt of everything as always.
We we have the the safe parkings in district, we have all these hotels in district, and I heard some people say that um the city doesn't have a health component.
Uh I just want to make sure that we understand.
I'm having a monthly meeting with Supervisor Nate Miley and uh Hubbard.
Um, health is county's responsibility.
AODs is county responsibility, mental health is county responsibility.
And I didn't know that either.
You know, I used to jam up Supervisor Nate Miley and say, Why are you not over here doing this?
Why does it not happen?
I mean, angrily like that, just like what I just did.
And he said, Ken, that's not, you know, that's not my responsibility.
These are my responsibilities.
And I was like, oh, AOD, health, mental, okay.
Now I got it.
So I'm sharing this.
I like to motion to keep this in count in the committee because I have several more questions for staff that has to be clear.
And we're having a meeting today about measure W, right, with the county, and the mayor is 10 toes down on this because I speak to her about it, and she will be addressing this today also.
Um, so I like to keep this here because I think that um however the county is going to disperse these funds.
We have 58% of the homeless in Alameda County are in Oakland, right?
And I shared about being a uh uh uh uh expert on this, being out there, Oakland should not take the blunt force of all these cities in Alameda County.
Because I can tell you people tell me, oh, they told me to come to Oakland from Castor Valley.
People tell me when I'm out there, right?
And not just Alameda County through the state.
There's people here.
I just had someone on my street that was from Wyoming, right?
So um I like to keep hold this in council because I have several more questions for staff, and I like to see what the county's gonna say today.
Um, that'll be my motion.
I hear you, uh Councilmember Houston, but there is a level of urgency if that could be explained um by staff one more time around the expiration of the shelter ordinance, if if staff could explain again why this has to move.
Thank you.
Councilmember Houston, I hear you and I understand you, but this is the last life enrichment committee meeting before the September 16th City Council.
So that's why we are asking for it to come here and then go on to council because on September 19th, 2025, the current shelter crisis ordinance would expire.
So we're trying to bring it forth prior to that, and then we can get a new one in place.
That's good.
Thank you, Chair.
So uh are the contracts basically expiring then September 19th.
All of the programs would be out of compliance with the current regulations should the ordinance expire without a new one in place.
Okay.
Councilmember.
So this is a problem I say.
What why are we coming last minute about everything?
I'm I'm I'm not I'm not being.
Things come up last minute.
I've been in office 195 days, and ever since I've been in office, it's last minute, last minute, last minute, last minute.
Then we have to make a a a movement on this.
I'm gonna say no, because um, and I want a motion to keep this in committee because it's things that we're being responsible for that we should not be responsible for.
Oakland is taking the blunt of everything that has to stop and it's gonna be a hard decision for me to make this this decision it's gonna be hard because people are going to come and say oh you you're against a homeless or whatever whatever whatever right because I'm not scared so what I'm gonna say is this is that I'm gonna make a motion to keep this in in committee because Oakland is taking the blunt of everything.
The county I want them to give us fifty eight percent if not more my district is being ravished with illegal dumping graffiti vandalism crime we just had a officer parole officer murdered in my district and then I went to a meeting the other day that I walked out of because they were saying everything was okay it's not okay I'm gonna make a motion to keep this here because I believe that everything is falling on the backs of Oakland and that has to stop.
We're bleeding thank you Councilmember Houston I will entertain the statement by uh Councilmember Wong I will say Councilmember you would need a second for that motion to pass but I do want to allow councilmember Wong to speak.
So thanks Chair um so I I share some of the concerns that councilmember Houston has I will say that I I want to see this renewed because there's an urgency to it so I will not be seconding the motion made by Councilmember Houston but can I propose a substitute motion where we renew this for six months I do want to see like I just feel like this is fifty nine million dollars I want to also no what's the total contract amount that we're that's what I see here at the end of this table.
Thank you so much through the chair um I just wanted to clarify the request today this is not for um use of any specific dollars this is not approving any specific contract to interrupt you sasha I we can't continue we don't have quorum damn we have to we need to get this renewed do we have disrict seven staff I'm not sure if the council member has left uh the meeting sorry it's okay not your fault we but we do need to renew the call we do need a renew just for clarity and chambers if we don't have quorum we can't take action and deliberate on items so we're working to find out if council member houston has excused himself from the meeting am I allowed to ask questions while we while we wait yes there the currently there is no meeting um you can you can talk to staff um but but there's no there's no meeting right now uh okay sorry could you could you just uh clarify it's not a renewal of fifty nine million dollars in contracts correct there's no financial aspect to this oh okay Okay, well, due to the absence of council member Houston and the lack of quorum for the life enrichment committee, we have to adjourn.
So I apologize.
We will hear public comments on this item, but we cannot take action at this time.
We've already heard public comment on item four.
So if you sign up for open forum and would still like to speak, um please come up to the podium if you hear your name.
Kat Brooks, Asada Olabala, Diane Sanchez, Robert E.
Badoya, and Ken Choice.
Or Kev Kevin Choit, sorry.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I walked out for a quick second.
First, I just wanted to say, um, my name is Kev Choice.
I'm uh City of Oakland Cultural Affairs Commissioner, also board member with Oakland Symphony, also president of the SF chapter of the recording academy.
Um, all these spaces I hold as an Oakland resident, uh, Oakland native, uh representative of our arts and culture community.
I want to thank uh Councilmember Fife for her efforts to help restore the cultural managers' position.
We know how important this was for our, not just for the city, also our our our sector of arts and culture.
Uh, we know that this was a difficult process.
Um, we know that there were challenges with the budget, but we have to create a new dynamic and a new new narrative where arts and culture is looked at as a core value and an integral part of every aspect of life.
Hearing the mayor say that she wants arts and culture integrated in every department is something that we have we have the uh the framework for with the Cultural Strategist Program, which I was one with the uh Office of Communications uh pushing the love life agenda.
And I think that's something that we need to revisit, but that does take funding and also collaboration.
Um, also, we just want to thank all the other council members who are in support of this initiative.
I know it was a lot going on.
Um, and I also want to uh just thank community who was deeply a part of this uh advocacy uh groups like APTP, uh Kat Brooks and Lance and all of their uh advocacy efforts to rally us to uh to get us together to come to meetings or rather rally rally community, uh all of uh the cultural affairs commissioners who also set up meetings individually with different council members.
Um, and also just announced, you know, that we've had a huge coalition of arts and culture organizations, grassroots and large organizations from the Symphony to Black Arts Movement directive that has kind of arisen from this advocacy and will continue.
Um, also just want to I know I only got a couple of seconds, but I just want to show love to uh co-founders, those are my sisters.
They are amazing.
It's good to see them get their flowers.
Let's continue to uplift our artists and um in community.
That's what's possible when we give support.
It was it, good morning.
My name is Kat Brooks.
I'm the co-found executive director of the Anti-Police Terror Project, and I'm also a playwright and actress, a director.
Um I've been an artist my entire life.
And so that's just like the least angry I've ever been standing at this platform.
Um, I really just came to thank Councilmember Fife for working with community to get this done.
Um, it's it's critical.
Arts as as Kev just pointed out, that it's not a luxury, right?
It's a it's a necessity.
It's a mandate.
And some of the folks that that were here cheering on co-founders and and and are now acknowledging, right, that are as important, also voted to get rid of that money.
And so I'm not here to talk smack today.
Today, but we got people on tape talking about how important art is.
And so I I do, I mean, I believe in the power of people to change, otherwise I wouldn't be an organizer.
So I I my sincere hope is that this process opened folks' eyes to the importance of art, all art, but specifically black art and black art in Oakland, California, and who we are to the rest of this country.
What we do here reverberates around the world, and you need to understand that.
Look at the the artists that this town produces.
Ryan Coolish, I can't, Kev Choice, Ryan Nicole, right?
That's what we do here.
I wish he hadn't left, right?
But you're talking about the disasters that are running on these streets.
Part of that's because we've divested from arts and culture.
Part of it is because every time there's a problem, we throw the money at the cops to solve it.
They got a four to six percent solve rate.
Period.
In the discussion, that's a fact.
Look at the data.
Four to six, but that's who we give all the money to.
We do, we're in a budget crisis.
I understand that.
I'm I'm not, I'm I'm a rational logical person.
I also understand that bazillions of dollars go to a failed system.
We could take a fraction of that and reinvest it in arts and culture, particularly black arts and culture, we would see an immediate turnaround in the in the tone, tenor, fabric feel of the city immediately.
He lifted up the big folks.
I gotta talk about Oakland Theater Project, I gotta talk about lower button players, I gotta talk about Malonga, right?
Folks that are getting by on nada, nothing to bring arts and culture.
Hello, I'm Roberto Doya, former cultural affairs manager.
I want to thank you, uh, Councilmember Five for your effort to uh bring restore that position, unfreeze it, it's really important.
Uh I think it speaks to the power of our cultural community.
They've been out here advocating for weeks on end.
Kev's a great example of sort of raising uh the visibility of the sector and its power, as when I was a manager, you know, my job was to raise money.
So I brought in over seven million dollars during my tenure there.
But one of the most important things that we did was support the cultural strategist and government programs, an innovative program.
So when the mayor was talking about um the uh uh artists in the city hall, we did it.
We've done, we did three rounds.
Ryan is uh widening the report on the final round.
So that's really an indicative that in our artist community, they not only make objects, they make policy arguments that are manifest to through demonstration projects around homelessness, around education, about prison reform.
So this is the richness of Oakland's cultural life.
That we're not like, they're activists, the cultural activist community, and at the end of the day, the division um is a small monies.
I was joking with Ryan.
It's that small monies that I give that artist 10,000 or they give that artist 10,000.
But content providers, we are the content providers for those creative voices that animate our city.
And so I thank you for understanding that and bringing that to the foreground, and hopefully we'll we'll get across finish line.
Thank you.
So I'm reading this article in the post about how the mayor is uplifting, we're gonna be doing pedestrian infrastructure with some funding.
So you're giving the message that we're gonna be able to repair sidewalks with some money that's being made available.
That's not true.
The responsibility for sidewalks are the responsibility of those who own private property.
The city of Oakland is only mandated to repair property that is public property.
What happens is if the city of Oakland deems sidewalk property that is private property to be a threat uh to safety, they will repair it, but the city will demand reimbursement from the property, private property owner.
Misleading information.
That's what y'all do.
You did the same thing with the vacant property tax.
Vacant property tax is supposed to be based on the value of the property assessed.
What you did is you passed a law for all property, regardless of the value of the property to be anywhere from $6,000 or some other number.
Misleading information that people are not well informed about.
Same thing happened with the so-called transaction and sales tax that you put on the ballot to be a sales tax.
Now that you're trying to deal with it, you're recognizing that it's a transaction and sales tax, mostly used when you do sales outside of the city of the state of California, mostly online sales.
Misleading the public.
You did the same thing with Measure U.
Misuse funds for Wong's district for the Lincoln Rec Center to get 32 million dollars when the organization said they were going to raise the money.
Thank you for your comments.
Chair that concludes um speakers for open forum.
Thank you all for coming out.
See you next uh September.
Today we are going to hear from some real Oaklanders, individuals that are products of this city, that love this city, individuals that are elected or part of our elected body, uh, leaders, advocates, those that are on the on the front lines of what happens here in the city of Oakland.
So I trust that you're all here because not for the cameras and not for anything other, but but we're here because we believe in Oakland.
We believe in the leadership of Oakland, we believe in the power of Oakland, and we believe that Oakland is not on the decline but on the uprise.
I serve as district director for our Congresswoman Latifah Simon, and I'm honored to be here this morning and to read this statement from the Congresswoman.
The president's threat to send soldiers into our city is not a response to need, it is a deliberate attempt to target black mayors, black representation, and the communities we serve.
Victims of crime deserve swift justice, real accountability, and the care that only comes from coordinated local action.
Under Mayor Barbara Lee's leadership, public safety is a top priority.
Violent crime in Oakland is down nearly 30% this year because of a comprehensive strategy that brings law enforcement, service providers, and the faith community together to prevent harm and respond when it occurs.
Federal overreach will not make Oakland safer, it will undermine the local partnerships that are delivering results.
I stand with Mayor Lee and Governor Newsom in defending our right to govern our city and our own state.
We will continue to protect our residents through trust, collaboration, and accountability, not through the militarization of our streets.
Thank you.
First of all, let me just thank uh Congresswoman Latifa Simon's office, Eden and the Congresswoman, and we will have statements from uh Senator Adam Schiff and Senator Alex Padilla.
I want to thank them for their statements.
Uh, Supervisor Nikki for two Fortunato Bass.
She should be here shortly, and our council members.
Uh let me thank our NAACP, uh Jamaica Moon for uh local 21, uh IFPTE.
Uh, and I want to thank uh where's Nicholas Brennaker, who uh is from Central Legal and is uh council for uh our immigrant communities, which are under threat as a result of this uh terrible action that has taken place.
And uh a couple of things.
Uh I hope you all know and believe that uh President Trump's characterization of Oakland is downright wrong.
It's wrong.
It's fear mongering, not facts.
Uh, we're making real progress on public safety.
Oakland has achieved a 28% overall crime reduction in the first six months of 2025 with significant decreases in violent crimes and 46% decrease in auto thefts.
And of course, we have more work to do.
But we're doing the work.
All of us are doing the work.
All of our neighborhoods deserve public safety, and so what he is doing again is diversionary and is fear mongering and it's wrong.
Uh, and so we're not gonna back down, and I want to thank everyone for being here because uh let me just say no one knows this president's uh playbook better than I do, better than I do.
I was served in Congress 27 years, four years of those 30 27 years were when Donald Trump was the president.
I was sitting on the floor of the House of Representatives on January 6th, mind you, when he sent in those people to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
I was on the appropriations committee, and I visited all of the detention centers, and I worked to try to make sure that we could unify children with their parents who he had taken away from their parents, and those um memories stick with me today just in terms of our uh immigrant communities, and so our legal team also is uh analyzing the constitutionality of all of these threats.
We're coordinating with state and local allies and also working with other mayors.
Uh, and we're also who are also dealing with very uh similar circumstances.
We're providing support just as it relates to our immigrant communities, uh, to families affected by ice and are working with Central Legal to ensure immigrants know their rights.
Oakland remains a city of refuge.
We are a sanctuary city now.
Trump is proposing and threatening to militarize cities, which is, you know, unconstitutional.
It's no coincidence though, that these are cities that are have large populations of black and brown people.
These are cities, all of these cities where the crime rates are going down.
These are the cities that happen to be led by black mayors.
What is this about?
What is this about?
His motives are fear mongering and diversionary.
When Donald Trump threatens our communities, we stand up, and I stood up to him before over and over and over again.
And as mayor, I will continue to stand firm with you.
Uh we'll ensure that Oakland remains a place of refuge, justice, and opportunity, and not allow the possible and proposed militarization and occupation of the cities which he called out to provoke any reaction that gives them an opening to come in here.
And so I want to thank everybody for being here because together, and I talked about this early on during the campaign.
We may disagree on a variety of issues, but on our common values and on our common love for this city and our communities.
Oakland is unified.
We believe in hope over fear and community over conflict.
So thank you all again for being here, and I look forward to the rest of our speakers.
Good morning, Mayor Barbara Lee, good morning, council members, good morning, everyone.
My name is Nikki Fortunato Bass, and I'm proud to serve as your supervisor on the Alameda County Board of Supervisors.
I'm also proud to have served alongside many of you as an Oakland council member and council president.
And I'm even prouder that I've raised my family here in Oakland.
I want to be clear that I love Oakland, like everyone in this room, like many who are watching us today, because we believe that anything is possible.
We stand on the right side of justice, and we are resilient and we have each other's backs.
Trump is wrong about Oakland, and we know the truth.
That truth is that we have been doing the real and hard work together to make our city safe and thriving for our residents, our businesses, and our visitors.
We have built, alongside many of you, Mayor Barbara Lee, our city council, our public safety chiefs.
We have built a comprehensive community safety infrastructure that combines effective and accountable law enforcement with community-centered violence interruption and alternative crisis response.
And our reinvestment and refocusing in that system and structure meant that in 2024, crime went down.
In 2025, today, crime continues to go down.
And we recognize that there's more work to do, and we are here standing together because we are laser focused and making sure that we get the job done under the leadership of our mayor, Mayor Barbara Lee.
And as your supervisor, I want to share that I am working to strengthen the county's partnership with the city of Oakland to address the root causes of poverty and violence and our fundamental rights to education and housing.
In June, our Board of Supervisors approved a five-year plan to distribute over 200 million dollars in Measure C funding to expand access to early child care and education in Alameda County.
And in July, with the advocacy of our mayor, our council members, and many, many across Oakland and the entire county, our board approved a historic 1.4 billion, 1.4 billion in investments of Measure W funds for homelessness solutions across the county.
And the majority of these funds will be invested right here in Oakland because Oakland has our largest number of unhoused residents.
And we are also going to make sure those investments address racial inequities and homelessness.
So let's be clear today that Trump's threats and his deployment of the National Guard are not about safety or law.
This is about fear and control, and it is a blatant abuse of power.
With the that is right.
And with the passage of the big brutal budget, I want to be crystal clear that this administration is looting and dismantling our safety net.
It is shredding decades of progress, and it is leaving local governments just like ours to pick up the pieces as they strip away health care, as they strip away food security and so much more.
And with the threats to our immigrant communities, I also want to be clear that we condemn Trump's scapegoating and attacks on immigrants.
We will stand with our immigrant community as ICE continues to sweep across the country and our state.
We will make sure that we stand together and reminding our families that our families belong together.
Everyone belongs right here.
And we all have constitutional rights, the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, the right to freedom of speech.
And later this afternoon at 3 o'clock, I will be chairing our Alameda County Together for All committee.
That committee is charged with making sure that we are analyzing the specific threats to our communities by this federal administration, its policies and its budget, and we are standing up and we are fighting back and we are protecting our communities and our safety net.
And lastly, I want to concur with the mayor.
We will not be misrepresented or bullied.
We will speak truth to power, especially when our most vulnerable are being attacked and abandoned by this administration.
We will fight for justice for dignity and the basic promise of our right to housing, health care, food, and a safe community.
Today we stand together, we will continue to stand together and take action because literally everything is on the line.
I look forward to continuing to partner with all of you to build a stronger Oakland in Alameda County.
Thank you.
And so, as we've heard already from our mayor and our federal leadership, they've really made clear that you know Trump's rhetoric is not by any means representative of who we are.
And it does not define Oakland now or the future that we are working on creating together.
Trump made the statement that Oakland was so far gone, naming us alongside other historically black and brown cities like Chicago and Baltimore.
And as was mentioned, this is clearly no accident.
This narrative draws from a long, harmful pattern where leaders distort the truth about majority black communities to justify federal overreach, aggressive policing, and the erosion of our civil liberties.
And so let's be clear this is not about public safety.
It's about power.
But we know that Oakland, like many cities across the country, are make is making real genuine progress and change for towards community safety.
And each and every one of us in this room are fully focused on advancing policies and initiatives that focus on making Oaklanders safer and uplifting the vital work of our community-based organizations and all of the many government partners that share the same vision.
And so our city, as was mentioned, has never been defined by fear, but is defined by ourselves, working together for a brighter future.
And so, yes, we have some challenges, but you know, all of us are really working to face those head on and will continue moving forward with determination, despite those who seek to underestimate the strength and resiliency of our city that we love so much, Oakland.
Good morning, everyone.
Before I get started, I wanted to just remind people here today and the individuals watching that it is the 90th anniversary of the Social Security Act in the United States of America.
My name is Carol Fife, and I'm the elected representative of Oakland's District 3, where City Hall is located.
And the reason I mention Social Security is because that is the leadership that a president who cares about the interests of his constituents will provide.
The social safety net that Social Security created for millions of Americans has been eroded, and we're talking about having a president who had Oakland's name in his mouth about crime, who is a convicted felon, a convicted felon, trying to talk about Oakland.
I'm offended.
But because Oakland is doing the things to get us on the right track.
Under the leadership of Mayor Barbara Lee and so many community leaders that I see in this room today, we are making real changes.
We, for the first time, as we heard from our supervisor, have funds coming in to deal with the issue of homelessness that we've never had in the city of Oakland before.
We have partnerships that are growing that we haven't had or have been frayed in the past.
So we are making the changes necessary and getting back to the basics of what it means to take care of our communities.
And we have to consider that bringing in the National Guard to the city of Oakland and the other places that the president mentioned, I even hate saying that.
I even hate saying, President, that this authoritarian in the White House is doing as saying that needs to happen is the direct opposite of what we need.
134 million dollars was spent in Los Angeles to bring in the National Guard to sleep on floors because there was not the so-called work to be done to protect law and order in Los Angeles.
134 million dollars.
What could Oakland do with 134 million dollars?
If you care about safety, Mr.
Convicted Felon in the White House.
If you can if you care about law and order, you would know that the safest cities have the most resources.
It comes from protecting our seniors.
It comes from investing in education.
And one of the first things he did in office was to sign an executive order and kick out the Department of Education.
So don't tell me that you care about crime.
And don't tell me that you care about American citizens when you're arresting hardworking American citizens every day because they immigrated to this country for a better life, typically because the United States was involved in undermining their countries.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about the United States creating wars and undermining countries and creating coups, which we saw on January 6th, and no National Guard was called in for that.
Can we talk about that?
Can we talk about how law enforcement officers were killed in this country?
And law and National Guard was not called in for that.
So let's be honest.
Yes, Oakland has work to do, and we are doing that work.
And we are doing that work better resource than ever, and we will continue on that path.
But this, what we're experiencing is grooming.
It's grooming.
He knows something about that.
Grooming is to prepare us for an abusive relationship that he wants to have with the American people.
And if you do it little by little, you will prepare all of us by saying, Well, it's for those people, it's for the criminals, it's for the homeless, it's for the immigrants.
When we lose our freedoms in this country, little by little, they will erode for all of us.
So we have to know an injustice to one as an injustice to all.
And we stand united with Baltimore.
We stand united with Chicago.
We stand united with Los Angeles, and we stand united with every single city in America, whether it has a black mayor or not, who is standing on the right side of justice.
And we will continue that fight in Oakland is ready because we stay ready.
So bring it on if you think you want it.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Jenny Ramatran, City Council Member representing Oakland's District 4.
President Trump's attack on strong blue, democratic and dare I say progressive cities like Oakland is nothing but a distraction from the train wreck of an administration that is falling apart at the seams.
Oakland is not your scapegoat, Mr.
President.
And we are not gonna let you use us as a distraction for the things that you actually have to deal with.
Like covering your name up in Epstein files, shaming our reputation internationally, not helping end war, certainly, and fueling the flames of violence in this country and abroad, starting tariff wars and economic wars that are harming the people you claimed to represent American businesses and workers.
Talk of imposing the National Guard in a city like Oakland that is proudly on the rise is nothing but outlandish.
I am proud.
I am so proud to be serving alongside a mayor and council that is actually putting in the real work.
Work that is yielding results, especially when it comes to fighting crime and improving our economy, revitalizing Oakland.
No, we have a long way to go, but the trends, the data, the mood in Oakland, come here for yourself.
Go to our beautiful urban Redwood Forest, take a walk around Lake Merritt, shop, go to a sports game, see for yourself how Oakland is on the up and up, not the housecape that you pretend and you would like for Oakland to be.
So if you want to continue, Mr.
President, to support Oakland's rise.
Help us fund our schools.
Help us fund our roads.
Help us fund our fire department.
Dare I say, help us fund our police department, help us fund our homelessness services, help us fund affordable housing, help us fund the things we need to continue to be on the up and up, not the things that will step back progress.
So, Mr.
Trump, either work with us with the city of Oakland and the things that we still need help in, or leave us alone.
Thank you.
The NAACP National President and CEO, Derek Johnson released the following statement in response to President Trump's announcement that he would deploy the National Guard to Washington, D.C.
The statements of National President Johnson apply equally to the threat to deploy the National Guard and Oakland.
President Johnson said this: the brave men and women who make the up the National Guard are our country's defense against domestic emergencies and natural disasters, not weapons against American citizens.
Deploying the National Guard in this way is not only disgraceful to our troops, but it is a waste of taxpayer dollars, and it is built on a lie.
Trump says rising violence in the Capitol endangers the public, but the Department of Justice reported that violent crime is down 35%, a 30-year low.
So why would he deploy the National Guard?
You may ask, to distract us from the alleged inclusion, from his alleged inclusion in the Epstein files, to rid the city of unhoused people.
DC has a right to govern itself, and it doesn't need this federal coup.
This president campaigned on law and order, but he is the president of chaos and corruption.
And let me add these personal comments.
Wake up, America.
Wake up and recognize this move by President Trump for what it is: a direct attack on our democracy.
These kinds of actions threaten all of us, not just the cities he's named or identified.
And no real patriot would ever so blatantly trample on our constitutional rights.
Only a person who is intent on destroying America from the inside would engage in the kind of conduct we have seen from this administration.
Dr.
Martin Luther King admonished us, it may well be that we have to repent in this generation, not merely for the vitriolic words of the bad people and the violent actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people who sit around and say wait on time.
Dr.
King told us we must realize that the time is always right to do right.
The NAACP has already brought numerous lawsuits against this administration.
The NAACP will not sit by in silence.
We will continue to fight for justice and freedom, as we have done since our founding in 1909.
We hope all of you will join us in this fight for the very soul of our country and for the very soul of our city.
We will not back down.
Donald Trump is not concerned about the needs of Oakland residents.
Trump's actions are rooted in racism, establishing an authoritarian regime, and white nationalism.
Over the last year, crime rates have significantly declined in Oakland.
And the National Guard is not warranted.
These actions are self-serving and seek to distract residents from important constitutional and budgetary issues.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you, and um, and thank you, uh Mayor Lee.
Um, I know you've been uh champion for immigrants your entire career, so thank you for um for your work defending immigrants.
Also thank you, uh Supervisor Bass for uh for championing and um and working with the county uh to um help us get assistance for for the work that we do.
Um we also invite the city uh to uh to enter dialogue and continue dialogue with us to uh build our resources um to be able to rise to this occasion.
Um we have an immense challenge.
Um our attorneys at a CELAP and Centro de la Legal de la Rasa were uh we're stretched thin.
Um I haven't been sleeping many hours responding to to the many ICE arrests.
I've been going almost daily to the uh ICE uh field office on Samsung Street in San Francisco.
Um people are just traumatized.
Uh they are being held in deplorable conditions um that are completely in violation of human rights and frankly decency and morality.
Um I I go there and I I talk to people.
You all have heard the story about the child who was uh who was detained along with um five of his housemates and family members.
Um and I speaking with a child who's going through that.
I have um it's it's just about as excruciating as you can imagine.
Um he's you know, he was terrified, he was in tears.
Um I had to explain that his um family members had been transferred, he just were down in tears um, just feeling left behind.
Um, and it was clear that ICE was completely unprepared to hold a uh to hold a child.
He had to be in this um holding cell, and let me describe it to you.
It's um it's just a bare floor, cement floor.
Um they are just given a piece of plastic to use as a blanket.
Um there are often multiple people held in this holding cells.
I've heard from uh arrested persons, up to five um uh in in one small holding cell.
Again, just a concrete floor toilet just exposed there.
Um, so you have to go to the toilet in front of all these other uh people.
Um it's it's inhumane and it should not be happening uh anywhere in the world, let alone in the Bay Area.
Um, so I'm here also to answer questions about the um about the arrest uh and the raid of uh of the six uh who uh who were held at the Ice Field Office, including the child, as well as a uh person with down syndrome.
Um a child and a person with down syndrome should never be detained.
Point blank.
They should not be held in a detention center, much less in a detention center that isn't even built to hold anyone more than than a few hours.
Um so I I again I I call on um on the city to continue dialogue with us to to build the resources.
We are worried about not just responding to the current challenge, but as it was already mentioned uh with the uh the reconciliation bill will uh send 76 billion dollars to ICE.
That's it's an enormous challenge, and frankly, we are uh we are worried uh to how we are going to rise to this challenge.
Um we we need attorneys, social workers, um response staff to to be able to uh to deal with this.
We are looking into filing a habeas petition uh and uh TRO motion for uh for people who have been detained.
We we have the tools, but we need the resources to uh to be able to fight back and to uh to defend our community.
One in three Oakland residents are foreign-born.
So it doesn't just affect the um the family of the person of the persons who were arrested, and I I've spoken with the uh the mother and aunt several times, and and she's you know broken down.
She is completely terrified how they are going to make ends meet, how when she is gonna see her loved ones again.
Um it doesn't just affect the family members of the persons who are arrested, it affects the whole immigrant community uh in Oakland.
So again, one in three people are foreign-born.
I guarantee you that none of them are going to sleep comfortably tonight.
And I guarantee you, so many of them will lie awake tonight worried about what's gonna happen with them, with their children, with their neighbors and and friends and family members.
So uh I I can I can take some questions.
Um, if uh oh, not right now.
Okay, my bad.
Um so uh y'all thank you all for for coming here.
Uh it does give us support to see, uh, just give us hope to see this support in in the community, and uh thanks again to to the mayor uh and to everyone here, Supervisor Bass for being here, and um yeah, I look forward to to working together with you all.
Hi, good morning.
Is it still morning?
I'm Jamaica Moon and I'm raised in Oakland and currently a public work supervisor.
Um my job, we sweep the streets, pick up illegal dumping, and we keep our neighborhoods clean and safe every day for our residents and for our visitors.
And while we go block to block to keep Oakland beautiful, we see how every block is home to vibrant, hardworking, and powerful communities.
I want to tell every Oaklander that city workers, we have your back.
And let's call it like it is.
Trump's agenda is a disaster for working people.
And now he wants to point fingers and create fear.
We reject his cruel deportation machine, we reject his fascist occupations.
We reject his racism, and we reject his lies.
Trump is picking on the wrong city.
We're going to keep moving Oakland forward and we're gonna keep standing tall.
Thank you to everybody who spoke, and proud to be standing up here speaking with you all.
Thank you.
So again, I am Danielle Motley Lewis, president of the Bewapa Oakland Berkeley chapter that's black women organized for political action.
I won't stay long.
I'm just gonna continue to set the record straight as my colleagues and friends have already done.
Oakland is not in a crisis.
We are in a transformation.
We all need to share stories of progress, unity, and that transformation, not headlines.
As our mayor has reported, violent crime is down 28% from the previous year, with major drops in homicide, assault, rape, and even robbery.
These gains are real thanks to community leadership and smart partnerships with law enforcement.
Trump's recent remarks paint a false narrative of our city using the same tired, racially charged stereotypes that have been used against black and brown, black-led democratic cities for decades.
But as my our uh my sister, um Rowina Brown and our council member has said, we reject that fear-based uh narrative.
Oakland's future depends on facts, not fear.
It depends on unity, not division.
Whether you're in the media, a pastor, a politician, law enforcement, a teacher, a business owner, an artist, or an activist.
Oakland's success is all of our responsibility.
And we are grateful for Mayor Lee's leadership, her courage, and her vision as we move forward together.
Fear does not define Oakland.
We all do.
Thank you.
So to all of you, I want to encourage you.
This is the season, this is the time.
This is the era, this is the moment that we all must begin to lift up Oakland, promote Oakland, invest in Oakland, live in Oakland, work in Oakland, and most of all, celebrate Oakland.
Thank you so much for coming.
God bless you.
This is this is Oaklanders on the line.
Oaklanders, we are so back for another episode, the second to last episode of this limited series, Oaklanders on the line.
I'm your host as always, Noel California, and let's get into it.
Episode one, we got to ask people why Oakland, why they chose to be here, stay here, move here, why they defend Oakland, why they represent Oakland, just why in general.
And on this episode, I want to ask people, what is Oakland?
What does it mean to them?
How do they define it?
So let's pick up the phone and get Oaklanders on the line and have them paint a picture of what the town is.
Yo, who we got on the line right now, who we listening to.
Hey, right now you're listening to Corey Johnson, aka Sunspot Jones.
How y'all doing?
Doing great.
Glad to have you on the line.
While I got you here, in your words, what is Oakland?
Please define it for us.
I feel like there's so many people that know about the Bay.
I go to place I go to Norway, I go to Germany, I go to Australia, I go to Bali.
Like people know Oakland.
They people know the music that's come out of Oakland, they know the art, they know all the different things that have been created to show the world that it's it's just a magical, beautiful place in a celebrational art experience here.
Once again, that's my brother Matt Corey.
He's a fellow cultural strategist in government working with the mayor's office.
And a resident of district eight.
Just think of 2017 Raiders vs.
Jets.
It's a nice Sunday afternoon.
You got Marshawn on the sideline.
You got Kick to Sneak playing in the whole stadium, and you got Marshawn turning up a whole stadium of 60,000 people in the Coliseum.
That's what Oakland is.
So I feel like Oakland, you go anywhere, you see it, you smell it.
It's the art, it's the sounds.
I feel like that's the real inspiration.
That's the real heart of Oakland.
And like despite all the crazy shit that go down, there's real beauty, there's real culture in Oakland that people need to put that shit on a pedestal instead of like, oh, businesses are closing down, oh, people bipping too much.
Like, nah, you need to put the love for Oakland on a pedestal.
And Marco's right.
I'd bet you five bucks.
If you type in Oakland news, you'd probably find a negative article.
And while we're portrayed one way, we still find ways to thrive.
It's dynamic, it's complicated, it's frisky, it's gritty, it's uh, it's real.
There's a deep sense of beauty and justice that's important to how the city presents itself.
As a cultural affairs manager.
I look at like the many ways our cultural community celebrates and honors and brings beauty to life.
That's Roberto.
He works in cultural affairs.
We had a conversation recently, and we both agreed that there needs to be an attempt to revitalize Oakland.
Our next resident on the line is Kev Choice.
He's a former cultural strategist in government.
We have a wide influence around the world for such a small compact area.
I feel like this is a place that is often, you know, looked down on, underestimated, but we always continue to rise.
That's Billy Joe Agin Jr., co-owner of the store club.
And he told me a lot about what he thinks Oakland is, and he believes the city can get better.
I think Oakland is that one city that can't really be described unless you experience it.
And everyone that I've ever introduced to the town has always been amazed by what they found.
That's Emiliano Via.
He's a producer, model, actor, singer.
And we met through our media line of work.
Something that I think is uniquely Oakland is the sense of community here.
Um it's the number one quality that stands out to visitors.
Anywhere that you go, that is a social place.
Oaklanders are gonna be welcoming with a smile, dancing, having a good time.
I think that's something that is part of our identity here growing up, and I think it's something that we want to spread to other people.
Dear Oakland, I love you for all your magic, diversity, beauty, and history.
Thank you for being home and always being there.
I'll see you at the lake.
Love, Emiliano.
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This is Emiliano Villa, and you're listening to Oaklanders on the line.
I've already read I thought you were going to want to be a little bit more than a thoughts about that.
I do think these are the recording all day.
We've already been in the I have a lot of work.
Yeah.
Well that's perfect.
I'm supposed to be around.
Okay.
Go to Ballard.
Oh, yeah.
I think that's a good thing.
And then you can find things like that.
Hello, Ktop.
We'd like to share our screen.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I would like to call the meeting to order.
Um, welcome to the Cultural Affairs Commission meeting.
And um, can I have the roll call?
Commissioner Austin.
Commissioner Choice.
Commissioner Easton.
Commissioner Lee.
Commissioner Lipset.
Present.
Recording in progress.
Commissioner Ludlum.
Present.
Vice Chair Owen.
And Chair Wong.
Present.
So we don't have quorum at this time, but um I think we want to get started.
And can I ask.
Can I ask Commissioner Ludlum to read the land acknowledgement?
Our land acknowledgement on behalf of the Cultural Affairs Commission and Public Art Advisory Committee.
We are part of those of us on the land we now know as Oakland and lands all the way up to Albany, RN.
Is it whoon, the unceded territory of the Chochanyo speaking confederated villages of Lishan Aloney?
We stand with the Lishan people and their right to legal recognition and benefits from the US government.
Thank you very much for that.
And we also open all of our meetings as well with the Love Life Acknowledgement.
For those of you who do not know what that is, the motto of Oakland is Oakland Love Life.
Author, the author, of the Love Life Acknowledgement.
Commissioner Choice, who was a cultural strategist in government in the second round of that program.
And this was a product, one of many.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I did author this, but I will say I did get community input at the time.
I let some community stakeholders take a read and kind of edit it along with me.
But thank you for the opportunity to read it tonight.
The Love Life Acknowledgement, we acknowledge that in service of our beloved city of Oakland, we all as citizens to our citizens adhering to the city of Oakland's official motto, Oakland Love Life.
We enter into this space committed to embody love as the guiding principle.
We acknowledge love life as our motto as we denounce violence in all forms and the conditions that create it.
We acknowledge that when we demonstrate love, we also exhibit respect and kindness towards each other.
We commit the acts of love as an intentional force to generate tangible solutions in regards to all of our actions.
We recognize as leaders we must set an example and a precedent for those in community who have entrusted us with these duties.
We welcome and appreciate all contributions to this space, and even when expressing disagreement, we request that you lead with love in your heart.
We seek to find common ground and tangible solutions that demonstrate love for our city, its residents, and all constituents.
We acknowledge that when we lead with love, we are able to uplift a thriving city rooted in equity, equality, justice, inclusion, and opportunity for all.
We commit to the action of love life as our model and mantra.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And that was that was actually written um as kind of guiding values and premise of all of our work here in the city.
And it was written for all of public meetings.
And we're very happy that it's been read at uh when we first came back from COVID at the first city council meeting, as well as mayor inaugurations.
So yes, we thank you very much for that really significant and deep reminder to all of us about why we serve and how we should serve.
Thank you very much.
And with that, I want to go to the actions and the special orders of the day.
So this part of the agenda is for um ceremonial presentations and proclamations and recognitions.
And we have been joined.
Nope, not yet.
This is for uh sorry uh agenda number four, agenda item number four, and it's here.
Welcome, Commissioner Easton.
We now have quorum.
Wonderful.
Okay, and and with this, um, I'm going to take the privilege of the chair to uh acknowledge the service of um the man sitting next to me who has served the commission uh for it will be almost six years at the end of September.
Um yeah, how long is it?
Yes, two terms, two full, two full terms, and thank you for actually holding over for some time.
And uh I do want to say that we have a mayor's proclamation for you for your service.
Um I will read a little bit of it, but I'll let you enjoy the rest of it at home because I want to make sure that there's enough time for um other commissioners to uh to say what they would like.
But whereas Kevin Choice is an Oakland native composer, PNS MC producer, band leader, side man, music historian, and dedicated educator who has served as a fierce advocate for Oakland's arts and culture locally, statewide and nationally, and whereas during his term as commissioner from October 1st, 2019 to September 30th, 2025, Kev proved critical to reanimating the City of Oakland's Cultural Affairs Commission after it's being on a long hiatus and served expertly as the new commission's first vice chair, centering artistry and equity consistently in the work of the commission and supporting the cultural affairs division.
Whereas Kev lent his prestige as a celebrated musician and community leader to the commission and the division, contributed a wealth of knowledge and experience to the city of Oakland and its rich cultural sector, and made it his mission to spotlight the work of Oakland artists in commission and other city meetings, whereas in response to violence against our Asian community during the pandemic have led efforts with other cultural affairs commissioners to lift up the history of cooperation between African American and Asian American artists and communities in the virtual town hall stories of solidarity, API, and black artists in Oakland Unite and organize other cultural town halls during and after the COVID lockdown.
This goes on and on and actually isn't it isn't even a modicum of all of the things that Kev has done for us on this commission with Cultural Affairs Division and for the city, and I have no doubt he will do even more.
Um, but I want to open it up to other comments from commissioners, and I just uh it's killing me.
It's very hard for me to imagine the commission without you, Kev.
I'm gonna just say, y'all keep this brief because y'all gonna make me blush, and we all know we got work to do.
We got work to do.
Um, I'll go first.
Because I think I maybe have known you the least amount of time.
Um, but it has been such an honor to serve on this commission and learn from you and see how much um joy and leadership and wealth of knowledge you bring to the entire community and um the way that you bring community together, that you uplift community, and I remember um my first commission hearing.
Well, actually, the first one was on Zoom.
So the first one in person, um, you had been organizing the artist spotlights, and it was um a youth choir that sang, and it just it brought tears to my eyes, and I was like kind of didn't hadn't known exactly what I was getting myself into by joining this commission, and that just brought a whole new layer of what it actually means, um, and that's you, and that's your fingerprints all over that.
So, thank you for everything that you have done and continue to do, and um yeah, look forward to continuing to being in community with you.
Thank you.
Mike, got it.
Okay, fellow freckle fam.
Um, okay.
Well, we've served together.
I mean, the three of us are the uh the the long-termers now, and um I don't know what to say.
I I do know what to say, and I don't know how to say it succinctly, so I'll just say I have never seen somebody bring such joy about what you do um at a dais before.
You embody why we all do what we do uh as a musician and as an artist who stands up and speaks on behalf of the arts, and that is um that's not a trait everybody has, and to have you here in our first iteration of the arts commission back from hiatus and with Roberto um and Diane and the whole crew, I think you really modeled um what we could be and really jumped in and did things that we didn't think we could do.
So I just want to thank you for your leadership and inspiration to myself and I'm sure all the rest of the commissioners, and I will truly miss you, but I will buy the tickets and come see you.
And I know I'll run into a festival or two, so thank you.
Thank you.
Um so we have so many rich legacies and tradition in Oakland that fuse together arts and culture with social justice and equity and the actual manifestation of power to the people on all days and in all ways, and what you bring to the table as part of this commission, but in your work in various other capacities, and as an educator and as a member of our community, you bring the love and the strength, um, and the joy and the inspiration and this first commitment to our responsibility to serve and to remember that those parts are interconnected, and to be somebody who knows you and loves you and calls you a brother, and to watch you grow and develop and continue to rise as a leader and to give of yourself in ways that not everybody on this commission would know.
Not everybody in the community would know, but 24 hours a day that you are working for us in Oakland, and I honor you for that.
I uplift you for that.
I thank you for that.
And I look forward to continuing to be in partnership with you in a multitude of different ways, but just like you shine.
And you're brilliant.
And we're in deep gratitude for not just your service on this commission, but for the human you are, for the black man that you are, for the leader that you are.
Thank you for your service.
Those are some hard uh acts to follow there.
Um Kev, I just I took a minute and really read the words that you wrote or wrote within community that you just read for us, and and just thought like I don't know if anything else in any other city in the country or even in the world exists like that.
A motto that's about centering love and even within conflict and all the different forms of violence that we're trying to fight against in our city.
And so just appreciate you for those words.
Uh I appreciate you for your passion.
And you know, not everybody with your uh resume and talent and busy schedule would give up their time the way you have.
Because we ain't getting nothing for being here.
We're getting less than nothing for being here.
We're giving up stuff for being here.
And you've given up a lot to be here for not just six years, but beyond that, and then your work uh in the city as well, um, with the you know, the cultural uh I always forget what we call it, cultural.
Thank you.
Um, and just you know, I'm thinking of just last month, whenever it was out front and appreciating you as a musician and improviser, being able just to speak in front of everybody with such heart and such passion.
And um, yeah, just I I was just recollecting like running into you at uh Oakland School of the Arts when I had some long-term residencies there and just kind of meeting you there, and then we have our time here and running into you at the farmers market or at a coffee shop.
And I just hope now that uh our time at this table is done, we get some excuse to make some music together.
That would make me very happy.
So thank you so much.
Um it's it's some very, very, very big shoes to fill to have this vice chair in front of my name or under my name here after all that you've done here.
So I hope I hope I can call on you and get your help and advice as we try and all three of you that are transitioning off in the coming months.
We have a lot to do.
The rest of us that are here.
So thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
So you get to pick which one you can.
All right.
Yes.
Excellent.
Just thank you all.
Um I love you all.
I appreciate you all.
I'm an Oakland native.
I served on this commission because I wanted to represent the artist community.
Um I wanted to be engaged in these conversations.
I wanted to um to help uplift the amazing artists uh that are my colleagues that are my friends, and I consider my family.
Um, and just to be in this space is an honor, and I take it very seriously, and I think that's why I work so diligently because I know for some people this life or death, for some people they don't have a voice, for some people never make it into these rooms.
Some people don't feel comfortable in these rooms.
Uh, but I was groomed to be in this space by my my elders, my all the way from Brookville Elementary up to Skyline High School to Zebra University to Southern Illinois to here in Oakland and all the artists I've worked with and continue to work with.
Um so it's it's an honor to be in this space and to to speak up, and I've I have had to learn to grow because this is not actually the comfortable space for me.
I'm comfortable behind a piano or in the studio on stage at Yossey's or that Fox or this is not a comfortable space for me but I've learned to grow into the space and I hope to continue to work with y'all and represent for y'all in uh Oakland as an artist.
So y'all ain't gonna see the last of me and uh it's been great to I always remember the words Diane uh our our first here told us like she just wanted us to be in a conversation and have a seat at the table.
I feel like we've shown that we have grown to have a seat at the table and be a part of the conversation as artists uh advocates in in the city of Oakland and we're gonna continue that and I'm gonna push y'all and be here to support y'all to continue that.
So yeah thanks.
Appreciate y'all thank you so much and I know you're not going anywhere.
Um and um I want to uh we had the record show that we now have quorum right yeah okay so um I do need to make a slight modification to the agenda because of um because we also want to be honoring um mush Lee who um was her flight was uh canceled and she had to get on another flight from Chicago and she's making her way here and I know she was hoping to be here by now um but I with luck expect her um any moment but uh I would like to maybe move to delay that part and uh go to our first action item which is to approve the meeting minutes so um I think I might need a motion to oh I think you have public comment before that for that ah yes oh I'm so sorry yes so um why don't we uh so the the new order will be um public comment the action item and and then um hopefully uh Commissioner Lee will arrive but we will postpone her acknowledgement until she is in the room so uh can I have a motion for that change moved.
Okay and second.
Second thank you and all in favor.
Okay thank you.
And so we'll move to public comment.
So um do we have folks who signed up for public comment yes we have two so far and if anyone would like to make public comment on anything on the agenda if you can just fill out um a speaker card and then you can give that to us after you um speak.
So far I have Roberto Badoya and Iende So there's no open forum with straight to public comment which means there's no open forum um is at the end of the meeting.
So public comment um is for anything that is agendized uh so uh you sign up for an item that's on the agenda and then open forum is is just what it says any anything you would like to say to us uh my name is Robert Tubadoya Kev.
Uh I love you you've been a great voice in this com this community.
So I think the I but was thinking about what can I say?
When Diane and I and Mayor Shaff were trying to put together the first cohort group of commissioners, uh, nobody debated your value, and so in some ways we'll blame it all on Libby Shaff.
Dumb lemon on me, baby.
Uh, but uh, but more than anything else, I think the word I want to talk about, they talked about leadership, and that's very important, and you've demonstrated it.
But more than that, you've been principled leadership.
You understood the power of art, your ethics are profound.
The fact that the city has love life as its motto is part of your civic imagination that you bring to the table every time you you've been here.
So um, I sorry, Mush is not here, but when you did that incident, I'm not the that town hall, black and Asian things.
I love the fact that you guys were just leaning into me.
How much can we do?
What can we get?
Yada, yada yada yada.
And I said, let's just do it.
Let's let's what did they say that you don't ask permission, you ask for forgiveness.
So I got all I got away with a lot that time, but uh because it was it was the right thing to do.
So it's all about aesthetics and ethics, and you ultimately about lifting up the aesthetic speech of this city.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Apologies for the confusion I just noticed in the printed agenda that it said open forum.
So no, no, our our bad.
Sorry about that.
No problem.
Yeah.
Um, so did you want to comment on as on something now for the um that's agendized?
Or yes, yes, okay.
Please do.
And uh you have two minutes.
Thank you so much.
And first of all, I'd like to congratulate the brother.
Thank you for your service.
Um I noticed on the agenda we were talking about the workforce development and the economic development.
I have been to all the meetings, so I'm not somebody who sat at home and didn't check out the meetings.
But one thing I find about these meetings as they relate to culture, is that there's a white woman who's the head of both of them who's never been in our community.
We don't know her, we don't know either one of them, and what they have to do with economic development and or community development.
So I'm that's the number one mistake.
Number two, the misnomer that, or misguided information that homelessness and crime are Oakland's problem.
No gentrification is Oakland's problem, but unfortunately, we have gentrifiers that are now trying to come up with the answer to a problem they caused.
I'm asking this committee to stand up for the culture in Oakland and rectify what happened in Chinatown, and it wasn't no black Chinese garbage, it was actually gentrification that came in here now.
Chinatown looks like a bomb hit it.
And that's a city that that's a part of town that's very much near and dear to my heart, but no one's doing anything.
And another thing that culture and this gentrification affects is the fact that on Juneteenth, police can surround Lake Merritt and nullify a celebration of African culture.
Now, 37 times I've been violent with the police.
I have no problem with that.
That would have been a 38th if I wasn't in Baltimore.
But that disrespect to Chinatown, that disrespect to Oakland culturally, and this is where you guys come in.
Somebody should have stood up with the police department and said, hold it, that's a cultural insult to the African community for you guys to block off, and I don't care what the white reasoning was.
For you guys to block off the lake and not allow African people to celebrate was insulting.
I think the Cultural Affairs Committee, and I am urging you to please stand up when you see cultural insults of whatever culture come about, because I feel what's happening in Chinatown, what's happening with Juneteenth is a straight-up insult.
And I gotta guarantee you, and I will guarantee you that it won't be as peaceful next year because I'll be in town, I'll make sure of it.
But you guys standing true to your commitment, supposed to be about peace, it's supposed to be about love, but that wasn't an expression of love to say that Chinatown was a black and brown thing, or to cut off our lake so we can celebrate during our holiday.
So, in order to avoid my type of violence, I'm asking you guys, because somebody said, Well, let's go to the Cultural Affairs Committee.
I'm asking you guys to please step in.
But when you see wrong, step on it.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comments.
Um, we'll get these pieces of paper.
Thank you.
Do we have another speaker for public comment?
Can I go kim?
I don't I don't see are you supposed to be probably agenda?
I don't know who you have.
Um, if there's an item that you wanted to speak on that's on the agenda, you're welcome to do so now, or if you have it.
Um yes, it can be any any item.
Yeah, so nice.
I hope everybody's having a good day.
Yes, thank you.
You'll have two minutes, two minutes.
Yeah.
When we put the timer on it, yeah.
I um we how you good.
Um anyway, my my main concern is only three things.
Um how you define culture.
Secondly, how you get on get on the whatever what's the name of y'all thing group here?
The commission, the cultural affairs commission.
Uh-huh.
How you define it?
How you get on it.
And what are what are your paperwork on it?
You know, what's written up?
That's all I need.
Oh, and how can I get there?
How can I get the information?
Okay, you got everybody have reason or some definition to be on here.
Right.
Oh, you just appointed.
Help me out, y'all.
How do you get on this board?
That's all I'm asking.
Yeah, no, we uh we can we can let you know, but this is really for just your comment right now.
Oh, okay.
So can't nobody answer that's what you're saying.
You don't have a little piece of paper say just like we had agenda, usually have codes and things of that nature.
You don't have any of that on paper.
Is that what you tell them?
I can't find it anywhere since I'm participating.
Yeah.
Thank you, ma'am.
That's it.
Yes.
Sorry, thank you.
Okay.
Are there any more public comments?
No.
No.
Okay.
Thank you.
Yes, we can answer.
Yeah.
We've we I'm I I'm sorry.
Um, just like all of the commissions, there's a there's information on the website how you can apply for any commission.
Um, just like for our commission as well.
If you go to the Cultural Affairs page, you can submit there.
You want to email me, if you have choice at email, I'll probably answer you and give you advice on how to.
Some of us are terming off, and we do need more commissioners to step into space.
Um, and there is a process of of hiring that we all have to go through.
Uh and then you have to get approved by the council and the mayor after that whole process.
So just a little bit of that information, but yeah, I don't think it's this uh it's a secret, it's a way to do it through the website and also just do talking to people on a commission and the people in the department, cultural affairs department uh can also be a resource as well.
I would call it.
I'm sorry.
Yes, thanks to that.
Um actually, in terms of process, and sometimes I think the the city website can be a well kept secret.
Um it's not always the easiest thing to navigate.
Um there's an area called boards and commissions, um, where you can submit an application, you can look at the the functions and the responsibilities of the different boards and commissions.
Um we try to have some geographic um as well as other uh forms of representation um on the commission.
The mayor nominates folks for the commission and the city council approves.
So that's uh yeah, anyway.
That's the official process.
Um I just wanted to add in the agenda, um, at the bottom of the on page three.
There's contact information for staff as well a phone number and an email.
So if that's easier for you to follow up that way than to try to navigate through the website, that's the best way to contact us directly, and we could share more about that process with you.
Okay, and that's for everybody's information.
Um we'll move on to our action item to approve the minutes both from April 28th, 2025, and our last meeting, May 19th, 2025.
I'm hoping that everyone had a chance to go over the minutes.
Are there any um edits, amendments, corrections?
A motion to approve the minutes.
Thank you.
Do I hear a second?
Second.
Thank you.
All in favor.
Okay, thank you.
So we don't have much.
Ooh-hoo.
Um, so why don't we go to our first presentation?
If that's uh, yes, we have both folks here.
So this is uh a present informational presentation about phase two of the Oakland general plan.
Uh and I think I have an old forgive me.
Um no.
Could you introduce yourself, please?
Thank you so much.
Happy to.
Is this on?
Can you all hear me?
Great.
Okay.
Um, my name is Bibi Lagarder.
I'm a planner too on the strategic planning team.
Is that BB Lagarder?
BB.
Yes.
Thank you.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
Good evening, commissioners.
Um, as I just said, my name is Bibi Lagarder.
I'm a planner on the strategic planning division of Oakland's planning and building department.
Um, I'm also joined this evening by my colleague Khalila Haynes, who's right here.
Um, can you move to the next slide, please?
Oh, so sorry.
Yes.
Sorry, new to the new to the microphone.
Um, okay.
So in today's presentation, we will be giving an overview of phase two of the general plan update, and then at the end, we have a um a few discussion questions around some key ideas and you know input we want to hear from you for phase two of the general plan update.
Uh next slide, please.
And next slide again.
Thank you.
Okay, so what is a general plan?
Many of you are probably familiar with the general plan, but basically it's the guiding document for the physical growth of the city over the next few decades.
Unlike previous general plans, a key focus of this one is racial equity and inclusive engagement.
Uh next slide, please.
Um, so how does the general plan affect Oakland?
The general plan affects Oakland in many ways, from enhancing parks and recreational spaces to nurturing cultural and natural resources, creating more livable neighborhoods, and more.
Uh, next slide, please.
Thank you.
Um the general plan is being updated in two phases.
Phase one started in 2021 and was completed in 2023.
Phase two kicked off in fall of 2024 and is expected to continue through 2026.
Um next slide, please.
So in phase one, uh, we created a new housing element, a new safety element, and a new environmental justice element.
The housing element serves as a blueprint for housing all of the city's residents.
It presents an inventory of sites suitable for residential development in Oakland, an assessment of financial and programmatic resources, and an analysis of constraints, both governmental and non-governmental to housing production in Oakland.
The safety element is a policy framework to guide the public decision-making process on addressing natural and human-caused hazards.
And the environmental justice element serves as the foundation for achieving equity and environmental justice when planning for future growth and development in the city.
Um, this is the first general plan element of its kind adopted by the city.
Um, next slide, please.
Um, as I mentioned before, racial and social equity is a guiding principle for this update process, both in phase one and in phase two.
We have a robust community engagement plan to achieve more inclusive engagement.
Um we really want to focus on learning from Oakland's most impacted residents, uh, such as environmental justice communities, communities of color, and youth.
And to achieve these goals, we are conducting a range of engagement strategies, including neighborhood workshops, tabling at community events, social media outreach, and all of the other events you see on the slide.
I also want to add that we learned from our engagement efforts in phase one and are refining our strategy in phase two to make sure that we are providing really meaningful opportunities for engagement in this process.
Next slide, please.
Okay, and next slide again, sorry.
Okay, so that brings us to phase two.
So far in phase two, we have developed different options for structuring growth in the city based on the feedback we've heard so far from engagement with the public, government departments, and other stakeholders.
These options will be shared with the public later this week, and they're really meant as a jumping-off point.
They are not final in any way.
But yes, they will be shared with the public later this week alongside a survey where community members will be able to share what works, what doesn't work, and was missing from these options.
The survey will open on July 30th and will be available to respond to until September 24th.
We hope you'll, everyone in this room will provide feedback through this survey.
And then based on the feedback we receive through survey responses and other engagement activities, a preferred option will be developed.
And that preferred option is really the foundation for more detailed policy development associated with each of the elements in phase two.
Next slide, please.
So the elements to be updated or created in phase two include the loot, which is the land use and transportation element, the open space conservation and recreation element, which we call the Oscar, the noise element, and then a new infrastructure and public facilities element.
Next slide.
The goals of the loot are to create more livable and walkable neighborhoods with easy access to everyday services and resources, sorry, services and resources, to build a transportation system where everyone has access to safe and reliable options to get them where they need to go, and to support a strong, strong economic base in the city, including future industries and small businesses.
Okay, next slide, please.
The infrastructure and public facilities element will create a policy framework for building and maintaining resilient and high quality public systems that protect Oaklanders from adverse climate impacts and improve utility services.
And this element will also support an equitably distributed and maintained network of public facilities like libraries, fire stations, and recreation centers.
Next slide, please.
Aims to maintain and strengthen Oakland's network of open spaces and to build an equitable park system that meets the needs of all residents.
And then next slide, please.
And lastly, the noise element, which aims to minimize the adverse effects of noise pollution from activities like roadways, rail operations, industrial facilities, and except and other noise-producing activities while promoting a high quality of life for residents.
Next slide, please.
Okay.
So that's a brief overview of what the general plan is and the phases and elements.
We have some discussion questions to go through with you all here, and just to kind of get you all thinking about how the Cultural Affairs Commission can shape the second phase of the general plan update.
So I'll read them through quickly and then we're happy to take questions.
So, first off, how do you see the general plan addressing key issues that the arts and culture community is facing?
How can we prioritize development of culturally competent and inclusive public spaces for Oaklanders?
What could be the role for arts and culture in dealing with issues such as climate resilience?
And lastly, what are creative ways to support Alts and Culture as an economic engine for the city?
Um, so I will leave it there and take any questions.
I just want to acknowledge that we've been joined by Commissioner Lee.
Thank you for making it here.
Thanks so much.
And um, and yes, um, these are a lot of questions, and they could take a very long time to answer.
Um, so maybe my first question is what other opportunities do we have to actually give substantive answers to these.
Yeah, I just want to also hi, good afternoon, Khalila Haynes Planning Building, hi there.
Um, so one way to the General Plan Advisory Committee, the options report that BB mentioned that will go public um on July 30th.
Um, we'll be diving in that um as a small group with um the community advisory subcommittee, the technical advisors, and the ex officio members of which all the boards and commissions have been invited, although I don't believe we have as yet received a representative from this commission to serve on that, and that's going to be on the 31st of this week.
And so that'll be the first meeting to really dive into some of these questions about the options like you know, how can we prioritize culturally competent public spaces?
What does that look like in terms of land use and open space and things like that?
So that would be the first opportunity to really go into that, and that will be a continuation of the meetings of the next I don't know what year and a half until like early 2027.
Um, and so obviously, also the survey, like each of you are all welcome to submit either your feedback individually as residents or you know, one response as the Cultural Affairs Commission.
Okay, and hi, thank you for the presentation and the information, and this is quite a set of questions, and I look forward to the opportunities for us to engage around that.
And but I I do I I have a question for you guys, which is as you are working on this phase two, within the documentation that you have, is there reference to arts and culture in the areas that are supposed to be moved forward for phase two?
Thank you.
Um, yes, that's a good question.
So in phase two, we're working on the four elements the land use and transportation element, the open space and conservation recreation, um, noise and infrastructure, and so the infrastructure will be a new element that hasn't been created yet.
But um, in our land use and transportation element, we do have some existing references to arts and culture, but um, in terms of like what the team's goals are, we are all interested in moving arts and culture throughout all four elements.
It's um we consider it to be um a priority for the city, and that's been shown in terms of like um you know our background research as well as community feedback that we've received over the last three years.
Um, so we want to make sure that's integrated throughout the elements, and so you know, having your feedback on the ways that that is most poignant and effective is going to be something that we definitely want.
Awesome, thank you.
And you got I think you referenced that you're using social media in some way to disseminate the information.
So I am happy to be forwarded those social media um kind of posts that are about promoting um people engaging in the cert in the survey because I think the more people we can get from our arts and culture communities and folks who are interested in housing development, land development, but in in the cross section of them would be great people to have.
Is how widely they are disseminated and how much of the targeted communities that we are seeking to serve are are having input in those areas.
So I am that girl mystic on Instagram.
Feel free to tag me, hit me, send them to me, email to them to us as a committee.
Please let us know how we can not only um share our ideas, but amplify out to our communities so that they too can participate in the process.
Yeah, I think you will definitely share those um with the team when they're available.
They should be available, you know, by the end of this week.
And so we appreciate that.
We do want to do a better job of making sure that surveys especially reach our target audiences, which sometimes um you know are not always on following the city's social media channels.
And so um yeah and I think you know you all represent different organizations and parts of the city so we are open to ways that we can work together whether that's creating a neighborhood workshop for like your specific sort of group of people that you continue to work with or some sort of other um you know tactical outreach effort that makes sense.
I know a lot of your musicians if there was a way for us to like do something at like an event we're open to um whatever makes sense in terms of collaboration.
Thanks.
Commissioner Easton then commissioner choice.
Yeah thank you for the presentation.
So I just wanted to give people who are kind of newer here a little bit of background to the phase one of the um general plan and actually we did have a subcommittee um that was uh looking at all the phase one elements the housing safety the EJ and I think wasn't there a loot a small part of the loot that was done in phase one too I think as well I somehow think I remember that.
Yeah there was a small update to um the the zoning change the small update to the landing element based on the zoning changes we have made I'm not sure we put in but anyway the point being is that we did have a committee of not just commissioners but sort of outside people experts we were actually looking at doing a whole element for arts and culture and we realized it was probably too late and there was not enough resources so the plan was to put pieces to support putting elements or language in these elements as possible.
So I think it was pretty effective it was not the only arts and culture voice at the table but it helped us coalesce as a commission our thoughts on this and bringing in some of the uh some cultural experts as well so it might be a a model that we use for this phase going forward.
So some of the language that you see in the phase one language came from that dialogue and sharing with um the planning division so I think it's it's potentially worth considering doing uh getting a subcommittee together on that as well for these elements.
Commissioner Choice.
Oh yeah I'm sorry I'm just pulling up the questions again um yeah thank you for that information um a couple of responses to the questions um you know the first question around how do we see the general plan addressing key issues and I I kind of like to flip that question you know how do we see arts and culture addressing the issues of the general plan like and they need to be implemented in every aspect so I'm glad you guys are um you know thinking along that that line because that's something that we're trying to get the city as a whole to see is how arts and culture plays a factor in in all of these all of these issues.
The second um for the second question um actually the third question how um artists and grantors have addressed climate change and are uh involved in advocacy um there's a lot of artists who create art that address climate change and maybe there's even funding around you know getting artists to present or to create um things that give information about uh climate resilience um uh that has been you know we have Earth Day festivals we have festivals around pollution air pollution water pollution ocean pollution um you know all of these things that are addressing our climate um global warming um I feel like artists are kind of at the forefront of the activity of the advocacy the activism around those conversations so how do we engage locally artists to create art that kind of uplifts those core um those core issues um and really number four to me uh were the creative ways to support arts and culture as an economic engine I think is really just about investment and how are we investing into our artists and cultural or organizations who honestly do this work already on their own without any support and if we want to collaborate with them and get them to uplift issues or create more impact in these areas, how are we investing in them and giving them opportunities to to already uplift and also provide more opportunities for the things that they do.
Oakland can have, you know, uh climate resilience uh festivals, artwork creates created, you know, public art, music, dance, theater, all of these elements of art can be, you know, driven towards these topics or towards these issues.
So to me, it's really about how do how much do we want to invest and also how much how do we find ways to implement arts and culture into every single core issue that you guys presented.
Um I'm glad to see that there were I was gonna ask to how much arts and culture representative representation is um present in these committees or in these conversations, and um as much as possible, I feel like can help enhance and also kind of answer these questions as you go along.
Um and also uh I did also have one question like how how successful was phase one?
Like how is there any reporting back on some of the developments or some of the um you know some of the things that you addressed in phase one?
How far did they get?
Did you get the results that you were looking for?
Yeah, I think in terms of um phase one in terms of community engagement, I think I don't have the numbers like quite in front of me, but I think we like in terms of like each of us, like the put the people that we reach, I think the number was around like 10,000 people that were like really involved in the process.
So either they attended a workshop, we talked to them at a pop-up event, um, or they submitted a survey or something like that.
And so um in phase one and continue and continuing in this phase, we have a group of community partners that are working with us to do community engagement called the deeply rooted collaborative, um, led by urban um USD.
Um, I was yes, urban charities council.
The acronym just escaped me.
Um, but I think sorry of patience.
Um, but the groups include like Black Cultural Zone, Deep Waters Dance, um East Side Arts, East Side Arts Alliance, uh the Malunga Arts Institute.
And so, you know, we are working with artists in terms of some of the community organizations that are represented in the deeply rooted collaborative.
And so I feel like, you know, in terms of the feedback that we received in phase one, one thing that we heard from community members and our community partners was the way that art and like art activities was integrated into like the workshop, so something that was really positive, and that was a really good way to introduce to also um engage youth in this process.
We have a youth fellows program of uh I think about five to ten youth fellows that are working on the general plan update, um, you know, uh ages like sixteen to twenty five, um, who have been using social media, they've been using spoken word and other sort of processes to talk with their fellow youth about you know what the general plan means for them because they'll be the ones who are like inheriting what the city creates to that.
And so I think you know, in phase two, what we're really trying to focus on is making sure that um we drastically increase the numbers of people who are engaged in the general plan.
You know, one thing that we heard in phase one was that maybe people even though we did engage a lot of people personally, like overall people in the city didn't really feel aware of it.
So one thing that we're doing to try to address that is sort of like a public education campaign through paid advertising, um, you know, on our CDI kiosk on the those like digital billboards you see around town, um through uh advertising on social media through uh channels like streaming Disney Hulu Plus, and then also hopefully through um billboards and then um our what's it called?
R buses.
So, so yeah, we're still I hope to answer your question.
I I we can't.
No, that definitely did.
I think that was yeah, and I feel too, you know, it's good that you're, you know, collaborating with certain organizations and maybe there's a way that we can give more information to organizations that have received grants or just organizations that we collaborate with in cultural affairs department of because I feel like they would want to uplift all of these, you know, these issues or these core elements of the general plan, and there's all so many different creative ways that each organization could do that.
So, and um, just going to uh maybe to bring to your attention, I'm not sure if you were aware of the um California create the work of the California Creative Core.
So this was a an initiative of uh sixty million dollars when California had a surplus, remember that?
Um and it was uh allocated to the California Arts Council to activate people in particularly in the lowest quartile neighborhoods in the California uh healthy places index, um, and to engage creatives, cultural workers, artists, to partner with organizations in public health and environment and environmental resilience and civic engagement, and there was a catch all sort of um social justice bucket that was interpreted across the state in different ways, including immigrant rights, housing rights, worker rights.
Um it's it's very interesting work to look at to see how to engage the cultural community in the communities that they're from with the people who are who live in those communities and they're of those communities to give feedback not not just about creative ways to get people to engage, which is important, but I also think bringing and this reminds me of the question that was posed by one of the public commenters, um, was like what how do we define culture?
And um I can't say that we have talked about this in in great detail in this body, but if you look at the cultural development plan for the city, that it is really defined as ways of knowing and being in the world, it's not just art making, but the knowledges that we bring from our life experiences and from our from our backgrounds from our culture and from our cultural heritage, and how important it is to bring those elements into all of the work that is being done in the general plan for the benefit of the people of Oakland.
So I just want to thank you for the invitation to participate, and I realize it is our bad that we haven't given you a name uh yet, part partly um we don't meet that often, and so it we wanted to hear about this from you before putting a name forward to to participate on in the committee.
I can't remember what the name is.
Um general plan advisory committee.
The general plan advisory committee.
Uh, but I thank you for that because I think we we do want to have a representative in that work and to back it up, I think, with some subcommittee work on our on our own to help um help deepen um the participation in that particular committee.
So we're quite interested in participating and I'm just looking at the creative ways to support arts and culture as an economic engine, which I think is actually coming up a little bit later in it.
But um, yes, we could use even more always can use more creative ways, but there's some very simple ways to do that too.
Um, some of which is got pulled, we got the rug pulled out from under us on that one.
And and it's not that uh complex.
Right.
So it's about funding cultural affairs work.
Um so but I don't know um what else we can actually say in this moment that that's actually going to be helpful to you um because these are quite specific and and and complex questions to answer, and um I think we do absolutely want to participate.
Um so yes.
Okay, thanks.
Um well, first of all, thank you both for being here and for being so thoughtful about the desire to include arts and culture in the general plan.
Um, and it's it's refreshing to hear you talk about it as interwoven with the elements of the general plan and not as an aside.
So I just really want to appreciate that.
Um I'm curious.
I have a couple of questions.
Um I'm curious if you like what um are you looking to other cities that have kind of uplifted and integrated arts and culture into their um general plan or long-term planning in the ways that, for example, there's like cities in Colorado or Austin or New Orleans that have like music districts that have um updated certain zoning restrictions and um kind of built like a whole ecosystem around music or a whole ecosystem around performing arts, which in turn um, as you know, enhances uh the ability to support economic development?
So that's one question is just if you yeah, if you have other case studies or other cities that you're looking towards.
Um and then the second question is uh if you uh or maybe it's an offer of um as you're looking to kind of spend some resources for public campaigns and um public messaging campaigns, um, if there are uh if there are ways that we can help you reach artists, uh local artists that could do that, whether they're filmmakers or documentary makers or visual artists, um, but I think to draw from within the community um and especially when there's resourcing behind it would be a huge uh win-win on all sides.
Um and then yeah, I think the the last kind of questionslash point is just um uh ongoing uh invitation for ongoing ways to think about like how do all of these things not just sit in silos.
So, as we're talking, for example, about infrastructure and public facilities, how can we look at infrastructure also doubling as like social and cultural infrastructure and how can they be one in the same, which there's a lot of research that points towards that being a way of increasing our environmental resilience and our social resilience, so thinking about the ways that they can all systemically um join together.
And I think the more as you know, and that's why you're here, the more artists at the table um to be part of that civic imagining, as Roberto said, I think the the the broader it can be.
Okay, yeah, thank you so much for that feedback.
Um, you know, we do have some case studies in mind, but if you have additional ones to send us, um, we definitely welcome that.
I'm not totally familiar with the New Orleans.
One you mentioned.
I know we've been working with the city of Emoryville, um, talking to them because they have done a lot about um integrating public art into like their planning processes, and so they're part of the um general plan advisory committee as well as ex officio members.
And so um, you know, and as we move forward into like element development, we'll definitely be, you know, working with our consultant team and our community partners to gather more case studies, um, and definitely heard about you know reaching the artist communities.
I think, you know, we have some focus groups coming up, and definitely like you know, we want to have like an art artist focus group, and if you know reaching out to you all to find out some of the people who should be invited to that, you know, we definitely welcome like the collaboration in that way in terms of like, you know, who exactly is like, you know, ready to jump on this, and like, you know, we have some fund or not funding, like budget allocated for like tactical outreach, and so that could look like different things like visual arts or something else.
So if like you know, there are resources to send these invitations to, or if there are like people you have in mind and groups that we might not know, um, or might not be like, you know, so super into like the government work, like we definitely want to like be able to um collaborate and find those find those individuals and groups.
So all that to say thank you so much for the invitation to work together.
Yeah, very quickly.
Um I'm just wondering what the communication and buy-in has been with the council and the mayor.
Um it's wonderful to have um these plans, but especially as I was very happy that one of our council members members showed up here, but he's no longer here.
But but in my time here, it's like one of the only times that we're ever seen that.
So, you know, especially with all the budget crises and things like this, like how much are the mayor and the council following these plans in their decision making is the communication happening along those lines.
Yeah, thanks.
That's a good question.
So definitely in phase one, there's been a lot of there's been quite a few um new council seats that have come up, and so we'll definitely be working with those council members to sort of get the brief and general plan update and um what's coming up.
I know, you know, in the past, and I think they'll continue to be so like council member five has been very involved and previously called and Bass.
But um, yeah, I think we're continuing to work with our teams to make sure that like when they're engagement opportunities and stuff, those are getting out to their constituents so that their constituents know what's up with the general plan and can advocate for what they want to see in it through um the council member resources, and then I can't say that I personally we haven't I'm not I'm not sure exactly how we've engaged with the new mayor so far, but I think um they've been invited to the GPAC meeting and so making sure that we continue to follow up with them is probably um what we're gonna be doing yeah I was just gonna add on the the far side of you know once we got the general plan adopted um it is a binding it's a legally binding document and so that really is the guide for how the city develops so on that side there is buy-in I guess is that accurate yeah I mean um I think in in phase one we had a pretty I think it was a unanimous approval of the three elements and we worked really closely with the council members and our community partners to like you know go back and forth about what's included on our deeply rooted collaborative did briefings with the council members to talk about like you know different priorities especially when it came to housing environmental justice and so um I think yeah we'll just be doing hopefully even more of that in phase two.
So yeah definitely heard what you're saying.
And I just want to say thank you because we've talked about the general plan and I'm a newer commissioner but you guys coming and presenting today is informative.
It's also exciting to me and I think it helps provide for us as a commission some some inspiration to gather together so that we can even more be engaged and support the process so I just want to say thank you you guys are doing wonderful work and we appreciate you.
Yeah thank you so much we're definitely excited as well um thank you I want to apologize for walking in during your um presentation um and forgive me if I've if you've covered some of this ground already but uh one of the questions I haven't it may have already been answered is they think about the general plan in the next several decades um you know a lot there's a lot of there's a lot of um the questions are around how can the general plan support arts arts and culture I think one of the most important kind of narratives that we've been hearing is number one we know that arts and culture this body here whether it's us or whether it's been other folks who've stepped in and out we are always having to fight for the same resources and push the same kind of uh create the same value um we have to create value for why it's important for the city to invest in arts and culture frankly and I can't speak for my colleagues but I know that I'm done with that it's been six years just six years alone of sitting on this commission and it's been the same narrative as we think about the general plan one of the questions that I have is to what extent are we thinking about the next 20 years in formations of new industry in which because uh I know that there's another pre presentation coming up but if if this if these numbers are correct then 40% of business licenses in Oakland are from either residential landlords or that the bus the sector the third largest sector um in Oakland is technical services and professional something um basically real estate land development landlord residential construction how do we prepare for that eventually that industry will phase out because you can only build so much or the focus will shift and so when I think about this question it's less about celebrating and having kind of the adornment of arts and I I know I'm not saying that you two but you know we've said this again and again and again and there's some new faces in the room and so it's worth saying again how are we positioning arts and culture community and the creative economy to be ahead in those new industries whether it's AI and technology whether it's construction for residential places that are going to be phased out what takes the place of those types of kind of economic engines in our city and how are we thinking about the way culture and artists are ahead of that so that we're not 20 years later having this same conversation?
Um AI, are we film production?
What are the new emerging industries?
Um, and the question is not an answer.
That is the question that I would um I would love to be a fly on the wall and listen to as the General Plan Advisory Committee starts to think about phase two.
Yeah, thank you for those.
Those are great questions, and definitely those are things we want to be thinking about.
The options for how we stabilize and grow is like the report with like three big picture ideas about how we, you know, sort of like invest in community that's currently here and also plan for the growth that we're expecting over the next 20 years, and so that's gonna be what comes out on the 30th.
And so that will sort of get to some of the background information to ask you what's going to be happening and how we plan for those some of those things.
Um, but definitely the first question you had about how we, you know, you know, make sure we like move forward and not ask for the same things that we've continued to ask for.
I think that's really why we want to center arts and culture in the general plan.
Journal plan is the guiding document for the city, and so as much as we can structure it in a way like to facilitate, you know, for example, things like cultural districts is something has come up a lot.
We've only had one cultural district in the city.
How could we expand that in a way that is feasible?
Is something that we're going to be exploring in the general plan.
And so, you know, ideas to tie arts and culture to land use and zoning to parks, um, I think is one way that we're hoping to like move the conversation forward so that we don't have to continue to ask for the bare minimum for arts and culture when we know and there's you know we have the researchers for arts and culture is you know a critical um portion of a city's sort of economic and social fabric.
Thanks so much to to both of you for spending time with us to explain this and for the invitation to participate.
Yeah.
Um, well, thank you.
Um I just wanted to say for the record, uh, Vanessa, that we as staff have met, you know, Khalila, thank you for the presentation.
We had one meeting as staff with the team, and I know we have talked about having more meetings, you know, thinking about how to broadly address all of your great questions and suggestions, but then also to align those with practical ways to make sure that whatever is in the plan is something that can be implemented, uh, since sometimes there's a lot that goes into these documents, but they're that hasn't been connected to how the city functions or even if we want to change that, how we address those things, and also as a resource for you for other you know, cities um and models to look at as well.
So please, you know, reach out to us for for that too.
Thank you, thank you.
So um I just uh want to jump back to to an item for give forgive me.
Um to our special orders of the day now that we have Commissioner uh Lee in the room, and um I'm sorry you missed the first part, but we wanted to acknowledge um your service.
We uh we did also of commissioner choices, uh, coming on to the end of six years of service on the commission and uh being our ballast in so many ways, um, and for your for your leadership, um I want to say we have a mayor's proclamation for you, and um I I will take the privilege of reading a little bit of it.
Um, and I won't read the whole thing because it's a little long, but it it really is only still a very small part.
I think of what you've you've given to us.
So um, whereas Michelle Mushley, a child of South Korean immigrants, San Francisco native, longtime Oakland resident, mother, poet, arts leader, activist, has served as a dedicated advocate for the arts and culture locally, regionally, and nationally, and as a member of the city of Oakland's Cultural Affairs Commission from October 2019 through September 2025, whereas Mush's artistic expertise as a spoken word poet and professional expertise in organizational storytelling, communication strategies, and the equity inform in equity informed anti-racist models of learning have contributed a wealth of knowledge and wisdom to the cultural sector of the city of Oakland.
And you've served as a key leader in the rebirth of this body, um, also as the vice chair, um, also as one of our first in our inaugural cohort of the cultural strategists in government and the um human services department and also um helping to implement the Just City Cultural Fund, um, which was also uh a uh a creation of from from the work of Roberto Patoya bringing uh outside philanthropic funding to the city, um and just your heart and your wisdom and your just sensibilities and always thoughtfulness, always, always thoughtful.
Um, that we just appreciate your service so much, and it's very hard to imagine going forward without you on the commission.
Um so I am uh going to let my other colleagues express some things that they would like.
Um likewise, it's gonna be very hard for for who's here.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
Oh, and oh, by the way, I want to say that um council member uh Unger was here at the first part of the meeting, um, hoping to also just thank you and congratulate you.
But he had to run off to another meeting.
But I just want to say he showed up for you.
Um yeah, just thank you for your service.
I was remembering actually we first met on FAC, um, which is the funding advisory committee that for those of you who don't know is kind of serving some some of the roles of this commission when this commission was not you know activated yet.
And you know, you sat on that and this at the same time, and just you know, similar to Kev, like just such an inspiration of uh leading with such a wonderful combination of heart and mind.
And I just have to follow in your footsteps.
So I'll keep it brief.
Thank you.
I just want to jump in.
Um, you know, we came on to the commission together, and I feel like we've it's been uh honor, and I've learned so much kind of being like I feel like we've been a tag team on a lot of issues together.
I mean, we've had conversations after meetings, we've had meetings on top of other meetings, we just talked and kind of brainstormed on how we got things done.
Um it's beautiful to see the uh the efforts of our uh black and Asian solidarity uh work and efforts now turned into a yearly African American and Asian New Year's celebration that happens in our community, and I feel like our work kind of kick started that collaboration.
Um and just, you know, always just coming with so much fire and so much passion, um, and just an amazing artist.
Uh, I forgot I think sometimes people forget that some of us are artists, and you know, you are a poet, and every time you step to the stage, you represent you just remind us of of your brilliance as an artist and how much you put into the poetry and I feel like that kind of just even enhances what you do here because you you you come from it, you know the you know the struggle of the artists.
Uh I think during this time you became uh the leader of an organization, uh, the one of the biggest poet organizations in our region.
Uh during this time, you know, so uh just all the stuff that you do, a mother, uh, you know, we have to also remember that you you a mother, I'm a father as well, but you know, doing all of this work and also just doing the other things that you do is uh very inspiring.
And we're gonna keep kicking downdoors and grinding out here as artists.
So I just want to say thank you yeah just so much um echoing so much of what people are saying I um I also feel like I've learned so much from you um sitting at this dais with you and um Vanessa uh emphasized your thoughtfulness and I feel like that's that is one of the things that I have learned the most from from you watching the way that you interact with people who come and present with people who offer comment with people who come to this commission with ideas or um with questions and the way that you respond to them the way that you ask questions the way that you weave in so much thoughtfulness and bring so much of yourself and so much of your um artistry and so much of your knowledge to these conversations just makes them 10 thousand times more impactful so thank you so much for all that you do and um yes to to um also yeah just I feel like I'm just repeating what other people are saying but ever any time that you have also brought your poetry um to these public spaces to these public halls is such an honor so thank you for reminding us well why we're all here thank you oh I am in such awe of you um it has been an honor to serve on this commission with you and I think part of what excites me the most even though you're kind of terming out is that we've been able to form a connection and I look forward to being co-conspirators together um part of what I love about you is your thoughtfulness and it's your thoughtfulness in the way of um yes being kind of very methodical and wanting to understand all the pieces but also very methodical about like well if we need to set it on fire how are we gonna set it on fire right the same way that you you go on you go out no no no I mean it in the best ways though the same way that you go out on a stage and you set imaginations a fire with your poetry when we talk about what does this city need to look like in connection with arts and culture and where do we need to go and what are the repeating conversations what must we nurture and what must we kind of burn to open up for the newness you represent that to me there is a hope a fierce hope and passion in what you say but the way that you move and that is what puts me in awe of you and you have been quietly shaping lives of children and youth and community for a long time and for you to be serving in capacities that help to continue to shape what this city is gonna look like and also bringing in those voices the legacy that you are creating and that you will be leaving in this city means that even when none of us in this room are any longer breathing there will be young folks who are in awe of you the way that I am in awe of you thank you for your service and thank you for just being down to ride I appreciate that.
Okay.
I know I know my dear I had the word fear circle too because you come with fears and that's what I've loved about collaborating with you for the last six years and and I remember our our first COVID meetings and you had kids running around the background and you're you're you know we're like okay don't mind them let's go you know and it just all that you balance and and you're still a hundred percent present for all of us and it's just a magic trick that you have that you you never feel like divided you always but you're here for all of us and and then and on top of that and my mom has a great restaurant you should go you know and just celebrating your community and your family and I just that's the side I really I mean all the of course as a brilliant poet and and all those sorts of things but you're not somebody who wants to cut the pie up smaller you want more pie and that is who you are you step in as I no this is not enough it it's this is barely making it and and you did that on behalf of life is living on behalf of you speaks everywhere you step into it's like people this is not where we should be we need to be here stepping in as a cultural strategist as as a commissioner all those things so that and you know even when I'm like hey can we collaborate with Barton youth like absolutely what do you need I mean it was always yes and it's always yes and how can we do it better and smarter and for the benefit of all our our community so thank you thank you thank you um I will truly miss both of you um and for and your dynamic duoness of like the one to Kevin Mash bunch uh it's gonna be a tough shoes to fill but you've set the bar and thank you for doing that.
So um I just because we we got kind of thrown off and I know there were people who came specifically to speak I'm gonna open it up and we do need a speaker card for um anyone who had wanted to speak um I asked the young lady at the beginning do I have to fill out two ones no I just so um you you can just come up and speak um on on this just because I know people people came for to to honor commissioner Lee um so hi.
So we have uh yeah two minutes and yeah good evening commissioners I'm Carlos Oriva I am the newly hired uh community engagement manager um for arts and culture with uh Mayor Lee's administration so um I want to just I just want to introduce myself come here and let you all know that I'm a resource I will be working to um integrate arts and culture into every department in the city of Oakland as the mayor has directed um and also support the efforts throughout the city um for artists and creatives around so I look forward to working with you learning from all of you um and engaging over the next uh eighteen months thank you excellent thank you so much for coming to introduce yourself to us and we'll have to find your email okay that's good to hear about what the mayor desires to do because uh you should know that we had three rounds of cultural strategists of government uh so we've had some legacy some groundwork and Moosh and Kev were have been cultural strategists and uh as a result when Kev was there he did love life and when Moosh she worked and as we were trying to incubate and and uh this particular idea which we're happy to say took off but before that um how can I say I love you besides I love you you know uh you know it's like the heart always um feels a lot when I'm with you um I was yeah let's do it together dear let's cry but uh anyway put that down I mean, one of the things that she um, she's a writer, she's a great activist.
Kev, and and you did the that work in black and Asian uh town hall, it was phenomenal.
Uh and then I think people don't understand, even though JK Fowler is no longer on the commission.
You were an important part of getting our first poet laureate up and running.
So that's I don't want people to sort of not know that that's part of your fingerprint of your time uh on the commission and the um the great work that you've done and you've impacted all of us.
Um I often think about the role of artists and you that in some ways uh you could you are composing the world that we want to live in as you live in it as a modeling it to us.
So thank you.
Thank you.
At first, like the congratulations.
Thank you for your service.
The issue that we're about to bring up about economic development and workforce development.
I want you to be very clear.
I've read all the stuff they've written, and none of it is reflective of the community because they did not invite the community to compose it, they invited the community to hear after it was already decided, and that's something that's a game the city always plays.
But if you look at the report for economic development, workforce development and housing, they only come after it's been decided.
So the stuff you're about to hear will pan that out because it doesn't include an a compreh comprehensive art plan, which it should, because we have no more dance in Oakland, no more plays, no more theater.
The gentrificationists suck the life out of Oakland.
So they could complain about public safety and all the garbage that these newbies want to complain about, but it actually has nothing to do with the reality of what's destroying Oakland and what's destroying Oakland, our gentrifiers who want to come in and disrespectfully walk over those of us who have been here, those of us who have worked so hard.
So my whole piece is talking about these reports that they're putting out on on all three of those are not reflective of us because they certainly didn't come to me.
And I've been to all the meetings, and it's talked about everything except the concerns of African people.
So I want you guys in terms of what I'm here for you guys to do, step up, convene a meeting with the police department about what I was talking about earlier about how they're gonna handle Juneteenth.
Convene a meeting with these economic development folks who don't engage with the community except after the fact.
That's because the cultural element is missing, and you guys are the representation that we have.
So that's my plea to you is to convene these meetings.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Ian Day.
Um, your name.
It's how you name it.
I ended.
I called them that in the hallway.
Hi.
So I'm here about the economic plan as well.
Um could you introduce yourself?
My name is Latanya.
Um, and I was gonna say that in my thing, but I just wanted to make the point.
One of you guys said something about um I have this whole planned out.
I have two kids, right?
I have a 19-year-old and a 30-year-old.
Um, I became a better parent after for the second one, and that's because I had her buy-in.
I made her feel like every problem that we had, she was part of the solution.
And so I'm proud to say that I have two very um successful daughters, and I just want to say that.
But on the side of it, uh my name is Latanya, and I'm not an Oakland resident, but I do serve the youth in this community.
Um, I am a property manager here in Oakland, which is very difficult because I have owners knocking at my door to help them.
Um, but I have a I founded a nonprofit called Game Changer Sports Club, and it's a nonprofit um dedicated to empowering Oakland youth.
Most of them are from Oakland, but it's all of the East Bay.
Um, and I want them to have affordable, high impact sports um experiences that they other normally otherwise wouldn't normally be able to afford.
Out of my own pocket, I've traveled to um I support basketball and baseball.
Um I work in the school district, and I see that our sports um are heavily um black and brown kids.
So I just want to give them opportunities that they wouldn't be able to afford.
I took them to LA, Vegas, and Houston out of my own pocket.
I have a timeshare for that.
So when we visit all these cities, we do college tours.
I have so much more to say, but I just wanted to say that.
Can I come back?
Or can I finish?
She she showed me my two minutes.
So I want to be responsible.
I can finish.
Or come back.
Yeah, you can come back and find out.
Oh, come back.
I'll come back.
Is that okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
It's okay.
I just wanted to introduce myself.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Um, okay.
So, yes.
Could you and did you fill out a form so we know your name?
Oh.
Great.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
Hi, my name's Ted Russell.
And I'm here for the first time, been in these offices chambers many times.
And I'm just gonna keep it super brief.
Uh generally my work is behind the scenes, supporting artists, organizations, arts ideas, and um this is my first meeting because of uh two reasons.
One is named Kev Choice, one is Mushley.
Y'all are just so fierce and amazing, so I can't pay you any more tribute with my words.
I'm here just to recognize how amazing you all have been, and um I just I can't even give you enough support.
So I'm here.
I hope you're feeling me.
That's what I got to say.
Thank you.
I am uh I'll try not to take offense.
She didn't get her flowers, not yet, please.
Uh sorry.
Uh I'm uh Diane Sanchez and I live in District 5.
Uh and I am here to honor uh Mush Lee and Kev and actually all of you, because you all have pulled off with the help, a huge amount of help of the community, something that we thought we didn't have.
And so, you know, we have this gentleman who has left, but anyway, who's in the mayor's office.
We were always hoping that could happen.
So this body and the people who've been leading it uh who are sitting around here, they've you all have done it, and all I can do is thank you.
Um I thought this was kind of a dream, but and it for 10 years there was no cultural affairs commission, and we are here and we are at the table now, and people hear us.
So thank you all.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, Diane Sanchez, the first uh chair of the reinvigorated cultural affairs commission.
Thank you, Diane.
And yeah, okay.
I'm gonna make this really brief, because I'm Asian and we don't do this.
This is like my ancestors are like, how dare she recognize herself?
Who does she think she is?
Um I want to thank my colleagues.
I want to be so brief.
Uh Roberto, thank you.
Christy, thank you.
Ted, thank you, Rashida, thank you.
Thank you to the woman, the feisty woman from District 5 was um our former chair of the cultural affairs.
She's an Oakland girl.
She's uh, you know, um, yeah.
She was, yeah, I am her.
Uh she is me.
In 30 years, I will be Diane Sanchez.
Um, I want to thank Chair Wong for doing uh a really impossible job.
Leadership sucks, especially now.
Um, and thank you, Jim, for stepping in to support.
And my, this is my brother forever, Kev.
Um, there's so much I can say, but you know, the whole city knows and loves and celebrates and recognizes you, and it's all true when the when the lights are off, when this when the when the microphones are off, the production team is gone, the stage is gone.
You are still that man, you are still that artist and that father and that brother.
You always show up.
You are a man of your word, you're an artist of your word.
Um, and you have taught me so much about what it means to really live, um, to really live the love life model, not to be all cheesy and on brand.
Um I will just say again, Roberto, the man here in the hoodie who's also feisty.
I might also be Roberto in about 30 years, um just an incredible pioneer in the arts and culture sector.
I know not all of us recognize that, and that's a damn shame.
Um Roberto, thank you for leading us.
Thank you for uh kicking down doors.
Thank you for letting people, thank you for letting people beat up on you so that we could we could do some of the more glamorous things over the last six years.
We get celebrated, you know what I mean?
Um, and I know it's not easy, the conversations that you have had to have for this to happen for our city.
Thank you.
Um, you know, I am who I am because when I was 14 years old, I was in North Oakland, and it was the first time a city had taught me as a young girl what it means to love somebody other than yourself, what it means to create a life of service, even if the people on your block don't recognize you.
That has been my whole life.
The first time I found my love for poetry was my grandfather who's a pastor.
It wasn't writing, it wasn't the spotlight.
It was a man sitting quietly at his tenderloin kitchen.
Yes, I'm a San Francisco girl.
It's okay to not be born from in Oakland.
I mean, be with be with peoples, you know what I mean?
Be with the peoples.
Always have town love.
And I I would watch my grandfather in the 13th floor of his tenderloin apartment writing, writing quietly, just murmuring to writing sermons that were all about love and how to love others, and that's where I first learned uh my love of poetry and speaking and listening.
Um, and it was, you know, black artists in Oakland that taught me how to love once again beyond myself.
I you gotta say that.
You gotta say that.
And it was the Asian immigrants, the Nepalese, the Cambodian dancers in San Antonio district in the Fruitvale at Met West High School, that made me realize just how beautiful our city is.
It's not just beautiful because we're you know, we're crazy, we're always on the news, everybody wants to point a camera in our face.
We are so incredibly diverse and we survive and we love each other.
It's amazing.
I just came back from Florida.
It's it's it's okay.
It's not this place.
You just step outside for 10 minutes, outside of this city, outside of California, you see how special we are, and it's always been a love of people, it's always been a love of the community.
My mother used to last thing, I promise.
My mother used to always say, Uh, you need to pay attention to the people in the room who are the quietest and who that nobody wants to look at, who nobody wants to spend uh a minute with talking to.
Look at the people against the wall.
Those are the people that I want you to serve in your life, and that has been kind of a guiding North Star or a guiding uh philosophy for me.
And for me, it's always gonna be the poet, and it's always gonna be the artist, it's always gonna be the truthsayer, the person that says it a little bit too loud.
Maybe she's a little bit too ghetto, maybe she's a little bit too white.
He's a little bit too smart.
I don't know what it whatever it is.
It's a little bit too this or that.
I believe that the artist can be all of that and more.
Sometimes we're the only ones that are brave enough to do it in any room.
Um, so I celebrate the artist.
Every artist in the room, I celebrate you.
Um, and thank you to this body.
Um, and I hope we continue challenging ourselves to serve our city.
There's so many people who are not in this room that look nothing like me, nothing like you, maybe even that still deserve and need spaces like this, you know.
And we don't need to convince them.
So thank you.
Thank you.
And if you're ready to follow that up.
We have uh another warrior.
Christy Johnson Lamone, uh, to talk to us about the work of economic development in this city, not not easy work.
Thank you.
I never ever wanted to follow you, Mush, on the stage.
Look at us now.
Thank you for following me, though.
Um good evening, um, commissioners.
I'm Christy Johnson Limona, Deputy Director of Economic and Workforce Development.
And actually, what an amazing time to follow your words because we are going to talk about specifically how arts and cultural is embedded in our five-year economic development strategy.
Um, so this is our five-year action plan that we're uh sharing with you tonight.
I'm gonna give you a high-level overview of the strategy, its guiding framework, our goals, and key actions for your feedback, not just tonight, but for reflection, um, as we prepare to present the community economic development committee of the city council on September 30th, at which point, of course, we will invite the public to also come in and give us more feedback.
Um, but we have been collecting feedback over the past two years, actually.
We've been in deep listening, engaging a broad cross-section of stakeholders all over the city.
Um, we um created a plan that is in direct result of those conversations, and their input has actually shaped these goals and the actions that we're putting forward, and that will continue to shape the plan because it's not meant to sit on the shelf.
We also will be adjusting as we go.
We're in an uncertain time, and so we're trying things.
Some things that we know that work well, and other things that we're piloting, but really at the heart of this strategy is a core truth, which you all just shared really eloquently, that Oakland's arts and culture are not side notes.
They are our competitive advantage, they are a competitive edge.
They make our city vibrant, connected, and unique, they fuel our local economy and define who we are as a community as a people.
We recognize that our creative community is a dynamic ecosystem, it's interwoven with the city's economic vitality, and this plan we hope with your input and our community's input reflects our continued investment in that ecosystem and our cultural institutions, our creative districts, and the businesses and creatives that anchor Oakland's cultural identity.
So tonight, as artists, advocates, and cultural stewards, we want to hear from you.
Do you see yourselves as artists, advocates, and practitioners and the communities you represent in this strategy?
Have we captured what's most vital?
Are there any gaps that we need to close or opportunities we've missed as we prepare to bring this plan to council in September?
And we do this with a full understanding.
We ask you these questions that we know that there's constraints right now.
There's budgetary and other constraints, but we also believe that with a clear vision, we can drive forward meaningful progress.
And finally, I want to thank you for your unwavering advocacy.
We now have an opportunity to bring this vision to life, beginning with we hope the restoration of the cultural affairs manager position, as that is a cornerstone of this plan.
Thank you.
And a step towards realizing a thriving, creative and inclusive Oakland.
So, with that, can we start the slideshow?
Thank you for driving.
Um, so really, our role at EWD is to sustain, attract, and grow businesses and investment in Oakland.
And as a part of that, we build relationships with our business community.
We connect businesses with the city and other resources.
As you know, we permit events, special events, our film industry, our cannabis equity program, the different markets that are helping us to revitalize our commercial and business districts as well as our mobile vending.
We also administer the Oakland Workforce Development Board, which is a big part of the strategy as well, ensuring that we're training the workforce of the future and working with employers as we try to build and grow those sectors that you mentioned, Commissioner Lee.
We also attract and administer grants and funding, and we manage and dispose of city-owned surplus land through public-private partnerships.
We manage the city's real estate and property through licensing and leasing, and we guide the mayor, council, and city departments on business and economic policy.
So we do a lot.
Next slide, please.
And we work very closely with the stakeholders.
As you can see, many of those folks are the same folks who came before you tonight, and who you're working with, with our businesses and entrepreneurs, our employers, property owners, our real estate partners, investors and lenders, arts, culture, and creative industries and artists, our community and economic development organizations, our workforce education and training partners, and local, regional, state, and federal agencies.
There's a lot of stakeholders that have a stake in Oakland's economic success.
Next slide, please.
This is our framework for inclusive engagement.
And as I mentioned in the introduction, we have been having these conversations across city council districts, both folks who transitioned out and new folks who are in here.
We did economic assessments and presented those so that they could inform our council members as they're also thinking about priorities.
We also talked to local businesses and employers, neighborhood business associations, and on and on.
The idea is that we know that this is a plan that we cannot implement on our own, that we're all going to need to partner across all of those stakeholder groups in order to achieve it.
Next, please.
And we grounded it in these five principles.
It really is about advancing a just and equitable economy, being responsive, accountable, and transparent, using data that's informed by community experience.
So we're both hearing from folks who are on the ground, but as you saw in the slides that we sent you, it's also grounded in some of the data that we've collected on workforce, employment, real estate trends, and racial equity.
We cultivate our community partnerships.
We can't do it alone, and we've aligned it with many of the city of Oakland's current policies and strategies, like the Economic Climate Action Plan, the general plan.
You heard from our planning and building colleagues, and we're working with them as well.
Next.
So the vision is about a thriving economy.
That Oakland's Thriving Economy provides equitable opportunities to live, work, learn, and play in sustainable neighborhoods.
And by sustainability, we're talking about both sustaining the business corridors and the businesses and the families that are operating them, but also in terms of planning for the future and adapting to climate change and climate innovation being one of the areas that we really want to further deepen, given that that is a big mandate, city policy.
And then our mission is around working to close equity gaps and access to jobs, business ownership, and goods and services, and increasing investment in Oakland to help grow vital government services.
So we know that the work that we do directly impacts the revenue and the sales tax generation and the money that flows into the city that in turn supports our government services.
Next.
So the way that we've structured this plan is we have five primary goals that also align with the different divisions of the economic and workforce development department, so that we know that we will be able to actually implement these goals.
And our director of economic and workforce development is here, Ashley.
So she has a roadmap and a structure to oversee the implementation of these goals.
And so they are rooted in the work of the division.
The first is to attract, grow and retain key sectors.
The second is to support businesses.
We know that supporting businesses is a big part of how we generate revenue and vitality in the city.
Building Oakland's workforce, I mentioned that before, it's something that we're really um centering as a key part of this strategy.
Promoting place-based strategies that's really about focusing on those areas of the city where there are opportunities.
For example, near the airport and the Hagenberger community.
There's a huge opportunity with the redevelopment of the Oakland Coliseum.
How are we positioning the workforce in order to be able to train and scale the employee the workers that are needed, match them to the employers that are hiring so that we can benefit Oakland residents and continue to grow the economy.
And then last but not least, and embedded in this whole strategy is how we amplify and build on Oakland's social and cultural activities.
For tonight I will dive a little bit more deeply into some of the actions in that goal five, and I'll just really quickly go through the first four.
But let me just pause and say that in looking at the entire strategy, we see that Oakland's creative community.
What we've heard loud and clear from the community is that one, it is a business sector and it's growing.
It's a key part of Oakland's economy.
Secondly, that we need to continue to invest in those businesses as well as the institutions that support them and grow them.
And third, that we need to be, we need to build on that as a key area of growth for the city.
I think one of you all mentioned one of the growth sectors, and that is one of the sectors that we've identified that we can continue to build from.
So yeah, you were next, please.
Thank you.
So attract, grow and retain key sectors.
So we know that table stakes is creating clean, safe, and inviting places to do business as well as places for families and people like to congregate and to spend time together.
So part of the goal here is to really focus on what are those key sectors that we want to both attract and retain in Oakland.
Another strategy is to develop a marketing plan and then to pursue sector-specific strategies.
So we talked about the creative industry, we've talked about film and how to grow that.
We've also talked about other sectors like the healthcare sector, the climate innovation sector, where these opportunities and intersections for different sectors and industries to come together.
And then we'll be building those employer partnerships in those key sectors.
Next, supporting businesses.
We know that in Oakland, a large percentage of our businesses are small businesses, those that employ less than 10 people.
So we'll continue to assist them by navigating city services, providing regular opportunities for businesses to engage with government.
We need to be transparent and make it easy for businesses to do business and want to be here and stay here in Oakland.
Something that we do every day is assist with identifying sites either for relocation or new location, and then really connecting businesses with capital and financial assistance.
Those tend to be some of the things that we've heard from our business community that they really need help with is actually financing their growth.
Next slide.
The workforce really centers on continuing the programs that we're able to fund through our state and our federal grants, largely.
So we deliver job training and employment services for adults and youth.
We also engage with employers and businesses to ensure that we're building a pipeline for the workforce to be able to find jobs and to grow their household wealth, to strengthen partnerships to advance equity.
And it shows what we're tracking in terms of who's participating in the labor force, who's unemployed, what the median household income is, all broken down by race.
And so those are some of the indicators that we're going to be looking at so that we can ensure that these interventions that we've included in the strategy are actually moving the needle and helping to close those racial equity gaps.
And those are some partnerships where we're really looking into specific sectors that we want to grow and invest in that create high paying jobs that can create social and economic mobility for folks who maybe have not been able to benefit from that type of intervention in the past.
Slide four.
Two more slides, and I'm done.
So the place-based strategy approach is about enabling private sector development.
So what are the conditions that we need to attract investment and growth in Oakland?
We've seen some of our industries leave, and so what we want to do is really dive deep into what are some of the ways that we can attract major employers back, in addition to supporting our small businesses.
So it's a both end strategy.
So that we're really thinking about the larger economy in Oakland.
Pursuing public-private real estate development projects.
An example of one of those is the development here in downtown, the partnership with Samuel Merritt University, which is going to attract thousands of people to downtown.
It is a major educational institutional partnership, and it was developed on city owned property and a project that our real estate team managed to steward to completion.
We also manage the city's realist uh real estate property assets.
So that includes land that is being developed for affordable housing, so continuing to promote development so that we're creating economic opportunities and jobs.
And lastly, advancing our business corridor development strategies.
An example of that is the work that we're doing in the Clinton Park neighborhood where we're partnering with a local community based organization where they are implementing our corridor safety and ambassador program as a workforce development program, working closely with our city waste services to address some of the major challenges that they've been seeing that are on the corridor, but really helping to build a local, locally driven group, building their capacity so that they're not just relying on city services, but they become partners, implementation partners in this.
I'm going long, so okay, this is the last one.
Goal five is to amplify Oakland's social and cultural activities.
So the four actions here all have different subactions, and I can give you examples of what those are and then welcome your feedback.
So the first invest in culture, arts, and creative industries.
Some examples of what that could look like is to initiate a cultural facilities plan via the Cultural Affairs Commission in coordination with the general plan update.
I cite that as an example because you all obviously see the benefit of being involved in land use conversations and how we are uplifting cultural facilities and planning for the future of those so that we can retain them here in Oakland.
Facilitate spaces for community connection and celebration.
We can continue to act as a liaison between creative businesses and event managers and city departments to navigate plans, permits, and inspections, and really connecting our arts creative and community organizations to city-owned spaces is another example of how we can continue to find those spaces that are either low cost or no cost and low barrier so that folks have safe, beautiful spaces to come together and build community.
Support local business and vendor participation and cultural and social activities.
So here again, we understand that the creative economy and creatives in that economy are businesses, and so we'll continue to assist Oakland's creative and cultural businesses through education, connection to financial resources, small business technical assistance, which we currently provide, and making referrals both to locations and to capital.
We feel like that is one of the best ways that we can help to support our creative community is through that stewardship.
And then finally, increase economic development through activation of parks, streets, and vacant spaces.
Here again, we can coordinate city services to support clean and safe events, activations, installations and programs like the cultural and entertainment districts.
So that is a very quick overview of what has been a plan that has long been in development.
And I welcome your questions.
And I apologize that I did not send you the questions in advance, Pam, but we can at least hear your feedback.
I know it's very late.
Sorry.
Try to keep it interesting.
Could you repeat the questions that you said?
Sure, sure.
Let me pull them up real quick.
And if I send them to you on Teams, do you want to pull them up on the screen?
Is that okay or no?
No worries if not.
Okay.
Okay.
So here they are.
Do you see yourselves as artists, advocates, and practitioners and the communities you represent in this strategy?
So in other words, do you see any major gaps or things that we absolutely missed as you've been hearing from our community in terms of what they need?
Okay.
I think for me, you know, this is this is great.
You know, it's obvious you guys have put a lot of work into this.
And there's a lot of important factors, these a lot of key factors.
I think the conversation that I've been having as an arts advocacy, as an arts advocate is the leveling.
You know, it's always like, well what's what's the top priorities and people say public safety or or businesses.
And even in this when we put culture last to me it's it kind of like last in the framework of order of importance which means we we might can get to it it might be a priority but it's last and I also feel like the the connection between businesses like arts and culture is a business.
So is it separate from the business category or is it you know it's to me it is a business.
It is all the top four categories that you stated to me arts and culture is implied or a part of those conversations.
So how does economic workforce start to tell the story that doesn't separate artists or cultural strategy or cultural advocates or cultural practitioners from businesses, from uh spaces, all of these other uh top priorities to me and that's the framework because a lot of times when I sit down with council members they're like oh well community said business was the first priority I'm like well doesn't we don't we add to the economic value of the city like millions of dollars every single year as artists and cultural like aren't we part of business?
Aren't we part of spaces all of these things so how do we start to change that narrative to not even separate it to make it kind of implied that okay artists are part of business as well so they're kind of implied in that conversation as well I know that's a longer conversation but the more conversations I have and you know even when we have these town halls they kind of always make it's like okay do you want to be protected from getting shot outside or do you want to have a festival?
Like how do we stop framing it in in that way of it has to be one or the other like we have to invest in public safety or we have to invest in arts and culture.
We know that arts and culture is public safety.
So those type of narratives I feel like we have to start pushing harder in these city conversations because when we when we sit down with these people they're like well that's not the priority these are not our core values and that was one of the most upsetting things to me in this recent advocacy that they said arts and culture the people said the arts and culture is not a core value and we know that arts and culture is a part of all of these things that are core values to our community because we hear them say that they want us to represent as artists and culture community and they know that it's important for if there's no festivals if there's no you know people coming into restaurants having music at restaurants having the Fox theater having all of these venues to have people come through and support local businesses in the area of where music and art and festivals are happening.
Yeah if I could briefly respond to your question is it separate I think it's not separate and it's not last arts and culture is embedded throughout and amplifying Oakland's cultural assets has a robust strategy and it has a goal on its own.
So I just want to make sure that that was clear that it is so important that it has its own goal instead of strategies.
And there's also different arts and culture strategies embedded in the other goals, uh, particularly around some of the sector work and the sectors that we want to invest in and grow.
And then there's more, this does not have that detail because we are still tweaking it in large part because we're still having conversation with community.
Um, and we will continue to be able to um uh include folks as input into it right up and into and after when we present to CED, because that's the goal is to bring a plan that has had broad-based input to be able to collect it, be able to make it actionable.
Um, and I'll say that because my boss is sitting right there, and to also put in the pieces that we can actually influence and control, because there's so many aspects that the um city's economic development plan are not controlled by EWD.
Um I don't necessarily have the ability to direct the police chief, for example, um, to um enforce certain um things like I don't know, traffic enforcement, that's a DOT, right?
Uh, where we've been hearing from our community in the uptown and downtown um corridor that they would really like to see safer spaces for pedestrianized activity and with side shows happening and other things like that, it's very difficult to do that.
And so how do we work together and collaborate so that we can create those spaces?
Um, where do we find the resources to do that?
So those are the conversations, but what we control is what we included here, but taking into account then working across departments and agencies to bring in that partnership and buy-in and support so that we can do the work.
So maybe I just did not do a very great job of saying arts and culture is all up in here and it has its own goal and set a strategies.
This is not um, you know, uh an attack or a critique.
Oh, I didn't take it that way.
No, I plan, but I'm just saying when we have these conversations and people say like, well, our cultural affairs is under economic workforce and development, but these are the top five, you know, priorities in economic workforce and development and culture is five.
You know, so like how we frame it, even how we have how we have the conversations makes people think about the importance of it.
That's I feel like that's even having the mayor's, you know, um representative come here tonight and saying we want arts and culture in every department, which is a new narrative.
We've we've been talking about that, but now the city is starting to say, Oh, it is important to have arts and culture in every department.
I think there should be a I'm gonna put it on record.
There should be a cultural strategist in a police department.
There should be an artistic cultural strategist in the police department to talk about creative ways about how not to block off the streets on Juneteenth.
They would know that if somebody was there telling them so I'm sorry.
I don't apologize.
Did I see your hand?
Yes, please, Commissioner East.
Thank you.
Um, so I guess um it's interesting.
Uh one of the things that um I I know all the departments are resource constrained, and so I think what I'm hearing, and I think what we probably all want to uplift is the more the message resonates, the more we can there's that buy-in.
So uh all ships rise together, right?
So I think one of the our challenges has always been that interdepartmental dialogue, you know, seeing like when we sat down with parks and racks and we helped them with some of the work that they were doing, and I think that notion of seeing the arts in all these places is really kind of what our message continues to be.
And the other thing that I think I and having come from working in economic development before, I I think because of our small staffs and because of our resource constraints, it's like sometimes we get um the boxes of like how do we how do we celebrate businesses?
But I think as we're gonna see things shift, we're gonna see more non-traditional businesses, and that's what we see in the arts.
And so it's like how do we accommodate those kind of, you know, the the street vendor, the you know, this the collective that's doing something in a parking lot, or you know, what where are we breaking down some of those rules that are kind of old fashioned or things like that?
So that kind of more creative thinking about arts and cultural businesses and cultural expression, whether it's through food or whether it's through barbering on the corner at the lake or whatever it is, you know, what where can we be in dialogue about supporting those kind of um I think that we're we're gonna see more and more of actually as our spaces get expensive, you know, that kind of creative economy.
So that would be the one thing that I I haven't dug down deep into this, but I'm just hoping that there's a space for it there.
Thank you.
And I would just kind of tag team onto that in reference to your question, like, is there some gap that exists there?
And I think part of it may be the language, right?
The power of the word and speaking to a variety of stakeholders.
Is the way that it's worded resonating with those of us who are creatives and artists and who are business owners?
And so that may be part of it, and it's not to put something else into your process or on the table, but it may be really beneficial to sit down with some folks who run creative businesses of varying different sizes and types, um, to have a discussion about the language, about the words.
Um yeah, so I just it's like it's so important, it has its own goal, and I'm like, okay, that's awesome.
But how come one through four don't or might not resonate in the same way with those of us who are business owners on the creative side?
And sometimes we have to name things, and it may be in the finer details of what you guys are developing and and the way that it's broken out that these things are being named, but I just I I think about that.
I think about the words and the language.
I always think of my professors and research.
Like, think about who are you talking to, and what are what are we trying to say to them?
And you guys are putting in a ton of work, and I appreciate you.
I thank you for your presentation tonight.
But yeah, words, language.
Thank you, Mandelin.
Commissioner Lee and then Commissioner Lipset.
Um thank you, Deputy Director, Christy.
Um I wonder if in like a really brief for the presentation, first of all, and also for the education, but I wonder maybe there's a um is there another way that you can help someone like me understand?
Um, not necessarily the contours of this plan, but as a former executive director of two arts institutions, one which is in my district, Destiny Arts.
You were the executive director of a very beloved nonprofit started by Sarah Kroll for five years, and you also helped this uh kind of at some point at one point a th a flailing non-arts nonprofit, secure permanent um space, art space within our city walls.
You moved on then to become the executive director of um an organization, Kev mentioned, one that's close to my heart, you speaks, which is a literary arts nonprofit.
Has we've done deep work in OUSD, um, in West Oakland specifically, but also in a lot of the schools, um in the in the deep deep east for the last 30 years.
Is there a way that you could help us understand or make the connection between the economic kind of drivers or visions that you have in this plan for us and how they may or may not have played out um within those two institutions?
Is there a way because I I I feel like there might be some connections that I'm but I want to check my own assumptions.
Um again, we're talking about land and and commercial space and how do we make sure some uh brother Malcolm X talked about um talked about, you know, gentrification is a real thing, and so much of that is about, you know, how are we using and stewarding the land?
To whom does it become bestowed upon to you know, um, and I wonder if there's a way that you can help someone like me.
I'm a comms mage, Emma, you know.
I can learn it, but I don't know that if you can help me make those connections.
Sure.
Um, I appreciate the question, and I think um one thing that I understand is that we all learn very differently, have different learning styles, and so videos help, conversation helps, workshops help, um, surveys.
I know people don't love them, but those are helpful.
Um, but in terms of popular education, that's what I'm thinking of.
It's like how do you distill what are very jargony words into something that um I can explain to my immigrant mom who's uh English as a second language.
I think that's what I'm hearing you say.
Um part of that work has been for example working with our planning and building colleagues as we're informing their land use and transportation element.
We mentioned zoning and land use how is that being stewarded?
How is that being planned?
What parts of the city are we choosing to concentrate certain types of businesses or sectors or creating job centers, creating cultural facilities.
We've been advocating for flexibility to allow for uh more uh opportunities uh for folks in the community to open their businesses and areas of the city that maybe are not zoned correctly so I don't think I'm answering your question directly how to help you understand I think it's about you know um doing as uh Mandelin has suggested which is to look at the words and um translating them into um different ways of engaging with folks it's not just about you know what's written here and I understand that that's part of our process too so we're in the middle of doing that.
Um we actually just had a workshop on Friday with our colleagues uh from different departments who are helping us refine this uh to get it to be a little bit more accessible um but I also um would invite folks from let's see there's a coalition that I think I've been engaging with softly around how do we turn this into a strategy that really resonates um yeah so I don't know if you're a part of that but um that would be another way that I would I would seek their advice to help I appreciate that because you know we all we're all town folk here okay whether you're born here or not and and I say that because I think there's another layer of calm strategy that we just need to name.
If this is a future facing and not this but in particular but the last two presentations were future facing part of what we've been missing for the last 30 years is that the the templates stay the same the language stays the same and the meaning or the lack of meaning and understanding also stay status quo.
And that can't happen anymore because what I know you Christy which is why I'm saying how does everybody else in the city get to understand very simply that we have somebody that has led organizations that have materialized in some of these visions just as her own not even within workforce development and how do we make that really clear and tangible because this is great if you've studied urban planning.8% of our city has not and I know at least from what what little I know of the department that there's a lot of innovative thinking in here.
It just and that we are woven in maybe we could be woven a little more and how do we um not put our you know our we don't want we don't need to start fighting within the first 30 seconds you know and I I would hope that as we move forward that we start to embrace and recognize that and find ways not around it but through it because I do think part of uh part of artists in Oakland, myself included is we do have a righteous rage and we see a deck like this and we want to think that's some gentrification stuff right that's like some I'm not I saw that happen in the 40s.
You know what I mean?
I saw that happen you know with white flight and then everybody came back and I I think that I don't believe that that is the motivation and so I want to see a plan that's um that's going to at least have the best chances of winning should the intentions be in the right place which is for the people for the communities for the artists for all of those who really do make up our sector that may have been neglected in the last 30 years which is what I I don't see that in this personally in this plan.
How do we communicate that so that people can really ask real questions and get real answers because then it's just gonna be like we're gonna stonewall each other and um I think that's gonna be the big task for every commission but also this administration and the city us people to not want to shut down or fight the way that we have fought for the last 50 years.
Fight a little bit better then.
And part of it is about how we need to better connect and how the implementation of these strategies actually uplift those folks who have been marginalized historically segregated, redlined, et cetera.
Yeah.
I mean, this is gonna serve so many people.
Without this, people won't take me seriously.
You know what I mean?
I'm I'm Asian.
I will I will wear glasses in a good suit, and I'll have a great looking deck and I will go into a city and I will I will present this out of it.
And we all know that there's so many communities in our city that just don't get they're not at the top of the short list for resources or consideration.
And part of that is it's it's it because it lives in this uh glass vault, and I at least for me, for us are I, how do we just do a better job talking about the material impact?
People are hurting when we talk about workforce and economic, we're talking about a life worth living.
How do we just say it like that?
Thank you.
Thank you, Commissioner Lipset.
Um thank you, Commissioner Lee.
Wow.
Uh no, I think uh um, and thank you so much, Christy, for the presentation and for inviting this dialogue.
Um I just had a couple things to say.
One as um just as a a reminder to the folks in this room, and if anyone's watching, that this our division, cultural affairs division, sits in the economic and workforce division.
Um, and so somebody, however many years ago, when they were drafting up the city charter, recognized that arts and culture is a key component of the economic and workforce um division of the city, and I think that one thing that would be helpful um is kind of our ongoing partnership and dialogue in reminding the city that economic uh that arts and culture is part is economic development, and it's an investment, it's not an expense.
And sometimes it feels like we are we keep coming up against um budget cuts that treat it as a frivolous expense as opposed to the way that it was initially integrated into the city charter or this iteration of the city charter.
Um and so I'm wondering to the extent that as you all are continuing to do to track and to look at economic development and to look at um all these numbers, to we would welcome your support in data collection around the numbers that the economic and uh that's sorry, that the arts and culture sector continues to contribute so that we can collectively continue to shape this narrative and um not that we want to keep having to prove our value, but it seems that we need to keep having to prove our value, and so being able to work with you as you are moving forward on collecting some of the data of um the contributions of this sector would be really helpful, I think, for for all of us all around.
Um and yeah, I think an another point that I wanted to um make, although I think it's been touched on uh is just that like our cultural scene, the one that has been here for generations is why people come here.
Is why people come and spend.
I grew up in the suburbs, I will own it.
I wasn't born in I wasn't born in Oakland, but I've been here for a long time.
Um, but we came here for we came here for the arts.
We came here for the culture, we came here for the museums.
Um all of my field trips were to the Oakland Museum, you know.
So like our existing art and cultural scene is a marketing campaign in and of itself for why we should bring why people should come here, and I think continuing to celebrate and uplift um and resource, those who make it an attractive place for people to come, um, it will be will be beneficial.
And then just the last thing that I'll say, um, and I don't I think this is a a lot a larger conversation, but um, I've been spending a little bit of time in San Francisco lately.
Um, because there's all these really cool events that are happening and big art and night markets, and the city is yes, the city has more resources and is and is supporting a lot of it, but they've also found a way to make it really attractive for private money um to pool uh whether it's family foundation or small foundations into supporting these ongoing um like community-led programming, and that also draws people from all over.
And so I'm I'm curious about what that might look like here, um, and what what ways the city, whether it's EWD, whether it's a combination of EWD with arts with us, um, can help create that type of kind of attractive magnet for the vast amounts of wealth that do exist in the city um and maybe could be um need a need an avenue for for how to for where to put that money um in ways that it has been I think successfully deployed in other places so that's all I'll say thank you yeah yeah I'll try to be very brief because I'm aware of the time here um so I'm a musician and music teacher and I had a teacher once tell me if you don't put your music practice at the top of your list it'll be at the bottom.
So back to what what Kev had said if it doesn't matter in your s slides here like what would it be like to have number one arts and culture like that's the first thing that's hit in the narrative as you present this to other people just put it there.
You know if we put it at the top of the list if we continue the and I forget the gentleman who came from the mayor's office if they're really honest and sincere about putting arts in all divisions then put it at the top of the list.
Just do it.
Change the narrative right um I appreciate the comment about I and I saw I wish we had a lot more time with you in this document here I want to thank you for there is a lot of data um around arts and culture later on in your deck here um and again uh the more we have from you because we're gonna continue having these fights with the council and the mayor about budget cuts the more we're able to say no look this is the amount of money being brought into Oakland because of arts and culture if you have that data that would be great.
And then the last thing I don't know could we bring up slide three one more time on stakeholders.
So just one comment as I saw that I felt a little little something in my gut which is just other than maybe employees the the stakeholders here are all people that have or entities that are uh already have power in our culture and I'm going back to what Mush said um about what her mom said like who's not speaking in the room or who's the quiet people in the room and I don't know what that is is it you know we could add youth we could add the elderly because there's a there's a lot of different folks that sh I think could be listed in here as stakeholders if it's about to be mentioned families are quiet many things many things many things so just one one comment there in terms of the words the language the narrative but thank you thank you for this conversation thank you um thank you and I apologize for making this just a little bit longer and actually I I knew this was actually going to be very needy stuff and I had a huge question about putting so much on the agenda and I'm gonna apologize to staff um because we're really cutting your time short and I want to apologize to the public who are who are here because um there's a way these meetings run and I will tell you that I do not know why they are run in this way and it's probably Robert's rules of order and I don't know if we are bound to use Robert's rules of order but they drive me crazy because you cannot have a dialogue with people who bother to come to these meetings and you know we can't actually have a dialogue and it's true in all of the city meetings.
They're all set up in this way and there's certain practical reasons for that when you have huge numbers of people coming in you can't be in a big dialogue with everybody in the room but maybe I think we need a cultural strategist in the city attorney's office and the city clerk's office because we need to find a culture of running these things where people can have some communication and some dialogue.
So I'm just gonna apologize because I'm following the rules because I don't know you know I I don't think anything's gonna blow up if I don't but in any case I do want to make sure whoever wanted to make a comment at the end of this is able to do so in the open forum, and we're sticking to that right now, but I'll just tell you that this format drives me nuts.
But anyway, um so I yeah, but there's something that I do want to say, which I feel like is piggybacking on all of these things that my wise colleagues have said because I agree with everything that has been said, and that we are we are your child.
We are a child in your department.
Not only are you um uh we are also a commission in your department that you are responsible for as well as the economic development commissioner, or I'm not sure if I got that the name correct.
But um, and so these these points that people are making about yes, yes, we all are also, you know, individual artists are business people.
Um a lot of these small businesses are individual creatives who are local, and this is the point I want to make, which really does piggyback on everything folks have said, but economics comes from the word oikos, right?
It's the Greek word that means home.
And what we have to remember is in all of this creative economy and economic development, it doesn't happen unless the people who make Oakland get to stay here, and so this is why if you ask me culture, yeah.
Culture should be number one on the list, because that is what makes Oakland Oakland, and we do not have the ability to draw people and have them come and appreciate the beauty of the cultures that are here, if the people who make Oakland Oakland can't live here anymore.
So if you can just somehow weave this language into the economic development, is that the people are at the center of it, it it doesn't work if the people of Oakland don't get to live here.
This economic plan doesn't work.
Um, or at least that's my opinion.
Um, but anyway, and I know you all know this, and and I do think it's the culture of the way we say things, and I was gonna say this in the in the general plan too, is we don't use language that that resonates with the people on the ground about what is land use.
What are you talking about?
What are we talking about?
Like what what these there's a lot of technical terms and and you all know what it means about you know act activating you know public spaces, like what what are we talking about?
You know, let's try and use as much normal language as we can, at least in our in our outreach, so people can really engage in uh in a authentic and a real way that resonates with what they understand about their lives here.
So I really appreciate the work, and I know you're and we're very lucky to have you, and we're very lucky to have you, and I know how much you care about this and understand it.
So um I just thank you for the and I thank you for listening.
Thank you.
And cultural affairs, cultural affairs staff.
I'm so sorry.
We are we have really cut your time way down, and um Ashley.
Um you're up, and thank you for your patience and everybody who's in this room.
Thank you.
Good evening, Ashley Cannett, Director of Economic and Workforce Development, and I am so glad to have been here for all of the discussion.
Um I'm here in some ways just because Lex Life Height is on vacation and I wanted to stand in for her, but even if she was here, I would would have wanted to be here to honor and thank Kevin Mush.
And just to hear this discussion, I really got a lot out of it.
So I appreciate the opportunity I have been listening.
Um, and commissioners um choice and Lee, I just want to say you have been incredible um advocates and commissioners, you've fulfilled your duties.
You don't have to wait, you can just keep you can get some water.
Um you've really fulfilled your duties at as advisors over the course of your term.
There has been so much thrust before you, and you've you've ridden those waves, and I am not a poet.
I am this is not my space, so my words will be much plainer.
Um, but especially in the last couple of weeks and months, oh my gosh, wow.
Um I was immensely grateful to hear commissioner, or I'm sorry, Councilmember Fife and Mayor Barbara Lee announced the restoration of the Cultural Affairs Manager position.
That is you, that is your networks.
That's not a role I can be in as the director of the department, and thank you for being out there and being loud, they heard you.
Um we do need counsel when it when the item comes as an amendment to council in September, council will need to vote to approve that amendment.
But we've heard a commitment from Councilmember Fife, a commitment from the mayor, a commitment from the administration to bring that legislation forward, and a commitment to finding a permanent source of funding for the position.
That's what I heard.
Um so I think really I'm here to provide a so thank you.
That's a lot of what I wanted to say, but then I wanted to provide some updates on the department just from a sort of managerial perspective.
Um with respect to the cultural affairs manager position, we are authorized to sort of delink, if you will, the council approval of the budget amendment and the posting of the position.
So we're gonna be moving forward with posting for the position.
At some point during the month of August, we're very close, but just give me a window because HR, you know.
So we'll be posting for the position during the month of August.
I'd like to keep the position open for a good period of time, like maybe six weeks or so, because I want all of us to have an opportunity to make sure our networks are aware.
I want to make sure that the word is out there.
I'm looking for this really to be a national scale search, although I'm looking for someone who just knows and loves Oakland and knows all that arts and culture is in Oakland.
So I'm looking for, I don't know if it's a unicorn, you know, we found one in Roberto, but I'm looking for someone who can sort of balance balance all of that.
Um my goal then would be to have someone in the seat by the end of the calendar calendar year, hopefully December 1st or so.
I'm looking to minimize as much as possible the amount of time in between the expiration of Lex Life Heights ELDE term, which is call it mid-November, something like that, and the um when the manager is seated.
Um you might also have questions about the cultural funding program coordinator position.
So the position that Pamela is currently in an acting role in Raquel's former position.
Um, because the Cultural Affairs Manager position was cut as of the with the adopted budget, we're currently using the funding from the coordinator position to um basically fund Lexa's position through the end of her term here.
And then I'd really like the cultural affairs manager, whoever that will be, to have a say in who this next person is.
So I am eager to get the cultural affairs division fully staffed, but also want to make sure the cultural affairs manager has a um say in how that how that happens.
What else can I tell you?
Um with the when um with all of the changes that happened in budget, with all of the staffing changes, there has been there's been a need to sort of refocus on what the division is going to be doing.
Much of the work stays just exactly the same, particularly in um around public art because that's a legislative program.
Um, but there are also some, like, I don't know, some projects, some new ideas that we are inheriting and trying to figure out how to internalize.
And we really are, I think Christie said it well at some point in her presentation, but trying to figure out what is it that government does uniquely well in this era of reduced staffing and reduced budget constraints.
So there have been a few things that we've sort of inherited, I guess.
One is the cultural facilities.
I think I've been before you talking a bit about it, but at the mid-cycle budget, so not this biennial, but at the last mid-cycle budget, we were handed stewardship, fiscal stewardship, relationship stewardship of five city-owned cultural facilities, Fairyland, Chabot, Oakland Asian Cultural Center, Oakland Museum of California, and Peralta Acienda.
Those are relationships that have languished somewhat.
These are like city-owned facilities, and the relationships aren't there, and so that's something I'd like the division to be focused on so that we're really in partnership.
We're also going to be doing some more thinking about cultural districts.
We actually have three cultural districts in the city.
I think all of you probably knew that, but there's not a lot of they're there with respect to this.
They're there in legislation, but there isn't a program to wrap around what those cultural districts are and what they can be and what their potential is.
There's actually a lot of potential for cultural districts to be a way of thinking about housing of artists, etc.
So there are some things I heard here and some ways that we can dig in deeper with cultural districts.
But we had a little bit of funding at the end of 24-25 that we had to kind of hurry up and use to be perfectly honest.
And so we've engaged with a team that's going to help us do some deeper thinking about cultural districts.
So many people have done so many thinking about what these districts are, but it hasn't come together in a way that city leadership and electeds know how to talk about it.
And so we're trying to bring some of those resources together and have a community conversation about what cultural districts can be.
Um we also have some thinking to do about fairs and festivals.
There's and the way that we work with the promoters of fairs and festivals, the way that we leverage fairs and festivals as economic development, as expressions of art and culture, as opportunities for artists.
There's a portion of the hotel tax, as you know, that goes to fund fairs and festivals.
There's sort of a legal legacy list from a while back, honestly.
I don't know if anyone really knows the source.
Maybe Kristen, do you know where the pre-Roberto even a list of fairs and festivals that are supposed to be funded with this money?
It's no longer there, there are many fairs and festivals on there that are great uh events for us to be funding, but some that just don't really exist in their full form anymore.
So, along with a special our special activities division, the cultural affairs division is going to be um figuring out a program to um to allocate that money, and we want to really think synergistically with some of the other budget line items that were approved by or adopted in the approved approved in the adopted budget, like um there's money for entertainment and activation zones, there's money for business incentives.
These were line items that the council approved through amendments, and we want to make sure that we're using all of these resources in as thoughtful a way as possible, so that we really have like a that we're thinking comprehensively about programs and sort of a package, if you will.
Um, and I think with that, um, all at the at the discretion of the chair, I'm happy to take any questions and if I have answers, I'll answer.
If I don't, we'll have to come back to you.
Um Ashley, thank you.
Um, do we uh do we know if the cultural affairs, first of all, sorry, it's it's really it's amazing news that the timeline that you shared with us for the cultural affairs manager role, and I love that it's gonna be a national show search.
I think we've all kind of informally together have said we deserve nothing.
The city deserves nothing less than someone who is absolutely crazy amazing in all.
So I do, we should seek a unicorn.
But I I wanted to know about the cultural funding in the grants program.
Uh, do we know if that's going to be coming back?
Or I we did not see it, and we know that that was zeroed out.
So I know the first priority was to get uh the cultural affairs manager roll back, and then with that it sounds like the coordinator position will also be reinstated, or that will be sourced somehow once it's you know we start to identify where everything is coming from.
But but the grant program itself for some of our nonprofit artists and then some of the individual artists or um uh organizational assistance will can we expect that in the next two years, or kind of what's your outlook?
What's the outlook look like?
Yeah, so when we were putting together the budget for the biennial, we thought about the we thought about the budget sort of in buckets, right?
So there's money for labor, there's money for programs, there's money for O and M.
And so when I think about the um labor positions the cultural affairs manager position the coordinator position I really want to protect that separate and not have there be so much fungibility between the labor and programs.
So I want to make sure that we get those positions so we have the the staff, the resources to be able to implement.
So let's put that to the side from like a programmatic perspective um I think we really need to play the long game here.
I am I'll be honest I do not see a lot of room for additional budget for grant making um there's been a lot of um conversation also about the staff resources that it takes to manage that program and so when I hear the council members talk when I hear the city administration talk there's also it's not just about the money that would go to the organizations but what are the what is the time that it takes to implement that program.
So that doesn't mean that there isn't work happening in that regard.
I think there's coordination with intermediaries, the incredible success that Pamela and Raquel had trying to you know make our arts organizations whole after that money was cut.
You know maybe there's opportunity there to keep going.
So in the next two years I don't see a lot of potential just given where we are budget wise.
That doesn't mean we don't keep working towards it.
That doesn't mean it isn't something that the cultural affairs manager can be doing some deep thinking about and um I wanna be ready for it when it comes back.
You know every major city has a cultural affairs division or something like that, a standout cultural affairs manager leading all of this work.
And almost across the board they are also making grants available to um arts organizations.
So I think it's a shame that Oakland can't do that right now.
But it doesn't mean we can't do it in the future.
Appreciate that thank you.
Um thank you so much Ashley for all the updates.
Oh I'm sorry.
Yeah, no I didn't see you okay um I I had a quick question um in response to yeah this uh search for cultural affairs uh manager position and you know I'm gonna be terming off but in my mind this commission has some role in that search and I don't know what role I mean we are the representative of the department we do work hand in hand with the cultural affairs manager um and I don't know the legal aspects of it um even seeing the wording of the post um if there's an opportunity to review that um if there's an opportunity to be engaged in some type of interview process um I feel like us as uh stakeholders um in the cultural affairs community we know Oakland whoever's coming in if they're not from here there's gonna be a lot of things that they aren't gonna be informed on and even to help them decide like they could even ask us questions like what are some of the things that would be my responsibilities um especially for a lot of us who have been here for a certain time or if there's some type of community committee that could be organized to be a part of this to kind of support because I feel like it's important um for us to have a voice um in the selection of this manager because honestly you know of course the first fight was you know solidify the unfreezing of the position now the next fight is how can we help support in the selection um of this next um manager and is there a possibility and what does that look like um I don't know what the the process was was around selecting Roberto but I do feel like community did have a lot of input in that even in advocating for that his position to be instated um and is there something we can learn from that process in the past uh to bring into this because we just want to support and have a kind of like a a seat at that table um because I feel like it it can inform whoever that is that will be selected about how they fit and also it can help us inform like how they would fit for us as well.
The other thing is, you know, um the last thing about the two year outlook of there being no um grant funding possible.
Um and I know that you know from knowing how we worked with Roberto, we know some fights are our fight and some fights are your fight.
So that means to me that means that community needs to raise our voices even louder around why there should be um funding found or allocated in some like those those grants are are instrumental for a lot of our organizations even if it's 10,000, 15,000, 5,000 these programs, cultural strategist, neighborhood voices, individual art like we haven't had individual artist grants in a long time.
And yes most major cities of our size and capacity have some type of grant funding for us to just completely give up on that.
And I know like I said that's not your internal fight.
That's like maybe that's a community fight that we have to look at for moving forward.
How do how do we find how do we help our city find some funds to bring back some type of granting program even if it's a minimal impact.
You know we didn't we didn't really um bring this up in you know the the flowers that we um were given today but some of our um advocacy brought this department to bring in our budget to one point five million for uh for s for grants and that was a couple years ago and that was because we sat down with council we sat down with community and we was like this is how much we need to fund our arts organization so I'll also challenge this commission um to don't give up on that fight of finding funding for our grant programs because they're nationwide respected um and I feel like our community needs that funding to help do a lot of the work that they do so yeah so thank you.
Um yeah and so I I do want to say you know we did get a general fund allocation um I think it's something like 350 or something like that and an estimate of a hundred and eighty which will probably be less than that for TOT.
Um so anyway there's less the under half a million dollars that um cultural fairs will have the recommendation in the budget is that it be used for permit subsidies for festivals and fairs and that's you know public works, police permits, special activity permits, etc, but no money directly going to um arts organizations and I th this is the the this is the addendum I keep adding to the advocacy which is it's not just about the cultural affairs manager it's do not put restrictions on that money and let let cultural affairs figure out what's the best way to use it.
And I also heard from a council member that I talked to that the onerous process of contracting for very very very small amounts of money when those contracts are really built for huge contractors and construction with a lot of liability etc is just absurd.
So I am hoping that somebody on the council actually will kind of raise that banner and and do some fighting for for making the process more reasonable instead of just saying the process is unmanageable so we can't do it.
So anyway I feel like that's part of our advocacy but um I just wanted to say that package that you were thinking of putting together sort of the creative way of thinking about what is in the EWD budget that's not necessarily in cultural affairs but partly it's in cultural affairs partly it's in other parts of EWD if it would be wonderful to hear what those what those ideas are if when if you're ready to present them to us it would be when is your next meeting would be great it at the end of October I feel like that would be pretty good timing actually that's right.
That's a go ahead yes to your first point yeah thank you I kind of wanted to respond I was like I'm not trying to sorry sorry um you the way you posed that really got me thinking.
So just as a matter of course, of course there will be a panel.
The panel is going to be, you know, outside experts, not just um, you know, I'll be on it, I need to hire the person, but then there's gonna be some people who really know a little bit more about arts and culture in Oakland.
And so we'll be figuring out who is on that panel, and that feels like an opportunity to engage.
But you got me thinking about even a even a different sort of process, like having I don't know if this is not a commitment, I don't know what this can look like, but having, you know, top candidates present to the commission or something like that, so that there's just a little bit more opportunity to be meeting the person.
Um I don't know what that looks like, but you got me thinking and it makes a lot of sense to me.
Thank you.
Amazing.
Let's keep that on the table.
Thank you for taking that consideration for sure.
Yeah, go ahead.
Can I say just one quick thing?
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I also wanted to say I'm incredibly excited to hear you talking about cultural districts, and thinking about how that is gonna work and is connecting to other plans that are open and in discussion now, and I'm not yet informed enough to talk about it, but I'll give a shout out to Ted over there and the the kind of training that I went on, uh went to around AB 812 and the creation of art housing for artists, right?
Affordable housing for artists and that's in connection with cultural districts, and so the way that the general plan is moving and what you got what you're talking about is happening internally within the department and what what you guys are working on, I just feel like there might be some exciting open opportunities through discussion and through collaboration, um, and through lots of work to to actually like I want to be on the hopeful side because that's who I am, that we can create some more sustainable um lives for artists and and creatives in the city of Oakland, sustainable meaning in a multitude of ways.
So I just I wanted to to kind of zoom into that and say it's exciting to hear you talk about the cultural districts.
I don't I I I don't I don't even know that most people in the city of Oakland know that there is three or that there are three, right?
And how are those being activated and what is the continuing infrastructure that's being built and what does it mean for cultures in the plural, always in the plural for cultures to thrive within those cultural districts to not only be preserved but to be created, right?
For the people of Oakland who are living in them and who are who are the people of the culture.
So I just want to say thank you.
Just very quickly back on the the cultural grants, um, this was said by a number of people in community when we met up in the council chambers, and just for myself having sat on probably read thousands of grants over the last 15 years sitting on panels, grants beget grants.
So when an organization says, Oh, look, we're getting funded by the city of Oakland, then that panelist says, Oh, you know, Oakland is behind it, and that helps get grants from the CAC or from private foundations, et cetera.
So even though the money has been very minimal, even small amounts helps build that and and gives sort of the bona fitas to especially smaller organizations.
So just to keep that in mind, and also just a plug, the other thing we haven't had in a very long time is is funding for uh education arts in the schools as an arts educator that kills me.
So I'm hoping that that can get reinstated.
And I know it's not just the it's it's about the city budget, but but just to say that I'm I'm committed to that fight to bring that back.
Uh fight with you, not against you or anybody else.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Really great having you here, by the way.
I'm actually uh oh gosh.
We have we have six minutes.
We have six minutes and we have community members, and I um I don't know if you are able to go along to hearing from staff, but I would like to ask for the people who haven't had a chance to speak, um, or needed to finish speaking and with uh their two minutes to promise don't start my time.
I have a question first.
Don't start my time.
I have a question.
Since we haven't been following the agenda, can one of you make a motion to let me talk just for a couple of minutes?
Because I just have questions that I'd like her to maybe think about because I heard you guys say some very important things, but I just can somebody make a motion.
I can have three minutes instead of thank you, thank you.
No, it's already two.
I'm sorry, it's really long, it's okay.
But if you could stick to your two minutes, I would really appreciate it.
Well, Denise told me to take over the time anyway, so I'm gonna listen to her.
So a couple of things I wanted to mention really fast is I didn't hear the economic plan really talk about schools, and that's why I mentioned the buy-in from my kids.
It's the buy-in from the kids that we need, and that's the most important.
And then Jennifer said post-pandemic non-traditional businesses is really what kept families afloat.
So we need to take those people into consideration.
And then, um, and thank you for saying words are powerful because words are very powerful, and to make this in layman's terms for for people like myself to understand is key.
And then I want statistics about something you mentioned about redlining.
Um, you're addressing that, but it's kind of too late for a lot of people.
So I would just like to know what the statistics are for people that have moved away and or now homeless that do not contribute to the beauty of Oakland, but did in the past.
Um so now I'm back to my thing.
Um, I'm no longer a member, and I'm here today because the economic plan being presented, um, it's gonna shape the future of Oakland, but I just really would like more inclusion of other Oakland um stakeholders.
Um, and no real seats were at the table, it sounds like for our youth.
I'm here for the youth.
I really need the kids to really be heard because at the end of the day, when you hear African American people talk about reparations, you know what reparations could look like that wouldn't cost a lot of us so much money, financial literacy, supporting our families at home.
I I want to create a space, and I will share my business plan with you.
I've done so much work with on it.
It's a space for young entrepreneurs and or just smart kids to come in, have a space where they join together and they feed off each other.
Because a lot of the kids, I know there's other programs in Oakland that do it, but they need space, they need opportunity, and they need someone to listen to them.
I am the result of a big sister from the Big Sister Big Brother program.
I am the result of opportunities being given to me that wouldn't have been given to me at home.
So I know that all of us can make an impact, and I just want this to include the youth a little bit more.
And here you cannot, okay.
My last it's like one sentence.
The one thing the town works if we let it work.
It's not gonna work if we don't include the town.
That's all.
Thank you.
And that's cutting myself short.
Thank thank you, Latanya.
And I'm gonna say this isn't your only chance to communicate either with this body or with staff, because folks' contact information is on there.
There is uh, I think an email address for the for the commission generally speaking.
If you have a plan that you want to send, if you have other comments that you want to give, you are free to do that.
I was invited here tonight, so I did not know I knew it was the economic plan, but I just I'm so happy I will be reaching out by email.
Okay, thank you.
Um did someone else sign up for open or please, hi everybody.
My name is Natalia Neida.
I'm so like on just over the moon to be like uh in the following the footsteps of the all of you here, um, as you're transitioning out of your positions and um thank you to everybody that serves uh working for the city and everything.
So I'm a fellow with California's for the arts, California for the arts, and I actually just had my big presentation on Saturday.
Vanessa Wong was there.
Thank you for coming.
Um, and it's a uh grassroots artist advocacy program.
Um, there were a few of us artists, cultural workers from Oakland, and my plan is on culture districts.
So I've done a bunch of research on these three existing cultural districts that have proclamations, and I've researched around like what's the needs in Oakland.
Um, and looking at San Francisco's model.
There's some things there that could really protect the town, the people um the most vulnerable populations.
And um, yeah, I've been doing a lot, a lot of research, and I would love to talk to more folks about it that are interested in it.
So I'll give you my card afterwards.
We can exchange information, um, and also uh make sure that I'll be talking to the folks from the city because I know Lex is looking to build that um actual program, you know, so that they're not just like uh so that they're more equitable.
Um anyway, that's it.
I just wanted to make a public comment and also speak to you um more personally later.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Congratulations on your project.
Yeah, really quickly.
I want to thank you guys for understanding and looking right through that program and articulately expressing what I was saying earlier.
But I'd like to say this: no plan will last.
Economic development has to lead to economic empowerment.
That whole thing had nothing to do with economic empowerment.
That's essential.
Number one.
Number two, with workforce development.
Thank you, brother, for the panel.
There has to be a panel for all the hiring.
I did the research for 12 months in 2024.
White people are the CEO, COO, or CFO of every single organization throughout Oakland, city, state, county, uh, corporate, and nonprofit.
There's only one black man who's the head of a nonprofit.
That's sad.
So if workforce development excludes black men and women, we're gonna have a problem, and that needs to be improved if we're gonna talk about cultural equity or these things that you guys stand for.
I appreciate the guys' time tonight.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Um, okay.
No.
Okay.
Okay.
So we are wow, we are at one minute over, and so I'm I'm two minutes over.
So um, so help me out.
What do you can you stay?
Do we need to adjourn?
Yes.
Um, can it be quick?
Thank you.
Thank you for staying, being willing to stay.
I don't know if you've done this before.
Do I need a motion just to extend the meeting?
Motion to extend, get through.
Well, normally you say how long you're going to extend it for.
How much time do you need?
Give them 15.
Sure.
Five minutes.
10.
Motion to extend for 15.
Second.
All in favor.
Okay.
Thank you.
Go.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I have one slide.
Okay.
Um Pamela Mateira, Assistant Cultural Funding Coordinator.
Um, so this is a little bit of what I've been working on recently.
Um, so two weeks ago, we announced the arts and culture pulled fund.
I have examples of the press up there.
Um, very exciting.
And thank you.
Thanks to Raquel and to all of our um funder colleagues.
Um, we've gotten immense gratitude from grantees.
It's really exciting.
Um, and we're trying to figure out how to um keep communications going on this.
And so the link that I sent around recently has an example post now for um community partners and friends.
Um, and then the organizational assistance $6500 grants, those are gonna start going out next week.
Thank you.
That's a good thing you did.
You can just flip through them quickly, Josie.
So um, this is just you know, FYIs, so we have been working on artist selection for public um commission for deframery park.
Um, most of you hopefully are familiar with it, but if you're not, the area that we were focusing on is in the yellow circle, which is the sort of defunct snack shack.
Um, this is what it looks like now.
Now actually, that's with the new roof.
It looked even worse before.
Um, but it really is very centrally located.
And um this is with funding that we had from East Bay Regional Parks grant uh that was focused on this location, but we were sort of struggling with finding the opportunity that would also be sustainable.
And when we found out that they were going to be putting a new roof on this building, that you know that was the trigger so that we could collaborate with our public works folks to do this.
You can just move forward, Josie.
It's fine.
So um this isn't uh we worked with the community-based selection panel from our uh public art roster to select five finalists, which we reported to you, I think um at the last meeting.
This recommendation uh is to award the commission to Vanessa DJ Ghana Espinoza.
Um she is just a great artist, so excited to be um thinking about doing this project.
Uh the project we originally defined as just be for the Snack Shack itself, but then we all started looking at it, and these are these odd handball courts that are adjacent to it.
So they immediately became a part of the project as well as uh another wall that faces Defremory Pool on the other side.
And just in terms of like artist, you know, this is a single commission, but the artist is really dedicated to also working with other artists.
I mean, in a way, she sort of was joking about working with all the other finalists.
Um, you know, we'll see how that works out.
But it it's really a community um love project to um uplift the concept of you know hope and um joy and resiliency in, you know, fighting for your rights, essentially, and how to how to articulate that um and to connect all of the people who you know use the town park, the skateboarding park, as well as the Black Panther skate park, um, etc.
You know, it's it's we're all excited about it.
And then this is another um project I just wanted to share with you.
Two uh cultural strategists and government uh public artists were selective for these two private commissions.
Uh uh Shido, as we call them, or um Shoga and Shido created this piece, then Quartent Steel.
This is for both of these artists the first permanent project that they're doing like this.
So again, really showing that um, yeah, the success of that program and then this interior piece is it's off of a public lobby, so it's not quite as open, but it's actually an outdoor courtyard.
Um the artist is Dora uh Gulov Singh is created this uh work that's based out of wood.
And again, she's someone who typically works in paint.
Um, so you can see the one piece if you walk down 15th Street, right?
15th and Webster at the OWALL building, the timber building that's there.
So just sharing some good, you know, news about projects with um, you know, three Oakland artists who were excited to be doing more work in public art.
I just wanted to say on that slide, it's a Oakland Black Panthers and Mexican zapatistas.
And I just and we kind of moved to the next slide because we're under time constraints, but what a beautiful pairing to explore in those areas of joy and resilience and hope and all that is necessary in what I call our beautiful resistance for a more just world, but like that's powerful right there.
And I I just wanted to note that because I and you should give credit to the artist when you're like, Yeah, but I mean, the fact that public art that would be exploring those interconnections and these social justice justice movements that have inspired the political imaginations and quest for justice globally speaking, to have that be supported as part of public art, and then the city of Oakland is just super important.
So I just I just wanted to note it that's all um I just want to well thank you all staff for keeping on keeping on during these really hard financial times and just a huge shout out again to Pamela and to Raquel Iglesias for raising six hundred thousand dollars from private funding to support the artists whose budget was cut like that's a huge feat in this um in this funding environment and you guys have made it's been a lifeline for all these organizations and I think it also just goes to show how like addressing all of these issues that we're facing is a constantly a multifaceted approach and you guys got super creative um and I think um hopefully like created a model for ways that we can continue to support artists given that there is unlikely to be um significant amount of grant funding from the city as at least for the next budget cycle um so I just wanted to say thank you again huge huge huge congrats and thank you to you and Raquel.
Yeah and I just wanted to second that motion of congratulations and uh appreciation um those efforts to bring that extra funding I know some of the grantees that actually received that and they just hit me up like wow thank you all so much and that was so amazing like literally is game changing uh impact these grants uh for these organizations who do things in our community uh so just want to say thank you for that and um yeah I hope to continue to support you and I also feel like if it was so aligning how it also came with the announcement around the exact same time with the cultural managers position and I think it just showed the impact of the commission and a division you know working together in in different ways to impact our our art our artists and cultural organizations and also maybe I think if made the city council take a look like wow this is what our staff and department did maybe they should be doing a little more themselves to be supporting um our artists and organizations as well so thank you for modeling that and uh yeah appreciation.
Yeah I I don't I've never heard of that being done in a city actually I don't know if anybody else has but it was talking about being creative and relentlessly you know committed so thank you so much for that and I I just also wanted to appreciate the fact that we did something with the Cultural Strategist and government program to try and diversify that list and it is wonderful to see it bearing fruit and not just being some kind of rote thing like oh we checked a box and you know these people folks are getting work and uh who haven't been in this space before so thank you so much.
I also want to just take two seconds to say thank you also to Kevin to Mush for all of your work the last six years on behalf of the staff since I'm you know I'm yes since you started and you know everyone came back onto the commission and it's really been so important and valued by all of us um you know we couldn't do it without you so thank you.
Okay um yes I promised to make it quick but I didn't want to uh let the meeting finish before we recognize uh luminary who we lost yes in Raymond Saunders and um he he was a longtime Oakland artist um came out of as somebody talking about somebody who was very impacted early in his life um by artists teaching artists um uh talking about youth so much today and then when he came to the Bay Area he continued to give back as a teaching artist as well somebody whose career was up and down in a lot of ways and he ended his life with a you know shows in New York and really getting the recognition he deserved, but somebody who was a uh a force in artists with visual artists here in the Bay Area and nationally and internationally.
So I just wanted to note his passing.
Um I also wanted to add and to bring um Greg Murizumi's name into the room uh whom we lost in in June, a co-founder of the East Side Arts Alliance.
We were co-workers at Opena Cultural Center.
Um, and uh Greg was an unrenovated radical, and he he really never he always kept the faith, um, and never stop struggling, I think for justice.
Um yeah, anyway, I just I just wanted to recognize him, how much he has given to um cultural movement work, and um, you know, being able to have the space of Eastside Arts Alliance in our community and the reading room.
I think that was his idea to put the library into Eastside Arts Alliance, the and lending library of of movement literature and um how he helped to curate um not only the work there but in um OACC and just always giving just very very generous, sometimes aren't we, but um, but always faithful uh to the cause.
Yes, and do I have a motion to adjourn?
Motion to adjourn.
Second, and thank you so much.
Recording stopped.
Oh my goodness.
They ran out of power.
That was quite a real.
I have my street.
Nice to meet you.
Thank you.
I see you and thank you for the presentation.
So much more than that, so hopefully you about like what I said.
Today we are gonna hear from some real Oaklanders, individuals that are products of this city, that love this city, individuals that are elected are part of our elected body, uh leaders, advocates, those that are on the on the front lines of what happens here in the city of Oakland.
So I trust that you're all here because not for the cameras and not for anything other than but we're here because we believe in Oakland, we believe in the leadership of Oakland, we believe in the power of Oakland, and we believe that Oakland is not on the decline but on the uprise.
Um, as the pastor mentioned, my name is Eden Chan.
I serve as district director for our Congresswoman Latifa Simon, and I'm honored to be here this morning and to read this statement from the Congresswoman.
The president's threat to send soldiers into our city is not a response to need, it is a deliberate attempt to target black mayors, black representation, and the communities we serve.
Victims of crime deserve swift justice, real accountability, and the care that only comes from coordinated local action.
Under Mayor Barbara Lee's leadership, public safety is a top priority.
Violent crime in Oakland is down nearly 30% this year because of a comprehensive strategy that brings law enforcement, service providers, and the faith community together to prevent harm and respond when it occurs.
Federal overreach will not make Oakland safer.
It will undermine the local partnerships that are delivering results.
I stand with Mayor Lee and Governor Newsom in defending our right to govern our city and our own state.
We will continue to protect our residents through trust, collaboration, and accountability, not through the militarization of our streets.
Thank you.
First of all, let me just thank uh Congresswoman Latifa Simon's office, Eden and the Congresswoman, and we will have statements from uh Senator Adam Schiff and Senator Alex Padilla.
I want to thank them for their statements.
Uh Supervisor Nikki for Fortunato Bass, she should be here shortly, and our council members.
Let me thank our NAACP, Jamaica Moon for Local 21, IFPTE, and I want to thank uh where's Nicholas Brennmaker, who uh is from Central Legal and is uh counsel for uh our immigrant communities which are under threat as a result of this uh terrible action that has taken place and uh a couple of things.
Uh I hope you all know and believe that uh President Trump's characterization of Oakland is downright wrong.
It's wrong.
It's fear mongering, not facts.
Uh, we're making real progress on public safety.
Oakland has achieved a 28% overall crime reduction in the first six months of 2025 with significant decreases in violent crimes and 46% decrease in auto thefts.
And of course, we have more work to do.
But we're doing the work.
All of us are doing the work.
All of our neighborhoods deserve public safety.
And so what he is doing again is diversionary and is fear mongering and it's wrong.
Uh, and so we're not gonna back down, and I want to thank everyone for being here because uh let me just say no one knows this president's uh playbook better than I do, better than I do.
I was served in Congress 27 years, four years of those 30 uh 27 years when Donald Trump was the president.
I was sitting on the floor of the House of Representatives on January 6th, mind you, when he sent in those people to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
I was on the appropriations committee, and I visited all of the detention centers, and I worked to try to make sure that we could unify children with their parents who he had taken away from their parents.
And those memories stick with me today just in terms of our uh immigrant communities, and so our legal team also is uh analyzing the constitutionality of all of these threats.
We're coordinating with state and local allies, and also working with other mayors, uh, and we're also who are also dealing with very uh similar circumstances.
We're providing support just as it relates to our immigrant communities, uh, to families affected by ICE and are working with Central Legal to ensure immigrants know their rights.
Oakland remains a city of refuge.
We are a sanctuary city.
Now, Trump is proposing and threatening to militarize cities, which is, you know, unconstitutional.
It's no coincidence, though, that these are cities that are have large populations of black and brown people.
These are cities, all of these cities where the crime rates are going down.
These are the cities that happen to be led by black mayors.
What is this about?
What is this about?
His motives are fear mongering and diversionary.
When Donald Trump threatens our communities, uh, we stand up, and I stood up to him before over and over and over again.
And as mayor, I will continue to stand firm with you.
We'll ensure that Oakland remains a place of refuge, justice, and opportunity, and not allow the possible and proposed militarization and occupation of the cities which he called out to provoke any reaction that gives them an opening to come in here.
And so I want to thank everybody for being here because together, and I talked about this early on during the campaign.
We may disagree on a variety of issues, but on our common values and on our common love for this city and our communities.
Oakland is unified.
Um we believe in hope over fear and community over conflict.
So thank you all again for being here, and I look forward to the rest of our speakers.
Good morning, Mayor Barbara Lee, good morning, council members.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Nikki Fortunato Bass, and I'm proud to serve as your supervisor on the Alameda County Board of Supervisors.
I'm also proud to have served alongside many of you as an Oakland council member and council president, and I'm even prouder that I've raised my family here in Oakland.
I want to be clear that I love Oakland like everyone in this room, like many who are watching us today, because we believe that anything is possible.
We stand on the right side of justice, and we are resilient and we have each other's backs.
Trump is wrong about Oakland, and we know the truth.
That truth is that we have been doing the real and hard work together to make our city safe and thriving for our residents, our businesses, and our visitors.
We have built alongside many of you, Mayor Barbara Lee, our city council, our public safety chiefs.
We have built a comprehensive community safety infrastructure that combines effective and accountable law enforcement with community-centered violence interruption and alternative crisis response.
And our reinvestment and refocusing in that system and structure meant that in 2024, crime went down.
In 2025 today, crime continues to go down.
And we recognize that there's more work to do, and we are here standing together because we are laser focused and making sure that we get the job done under the leadership of our mayor, Mayor Barbara Lee.
And as your supervisor, I want to share that I am working to strengthen the county's partnership with the city of Oakland to address the root causes of poverty and violence, and our fundamental rights to education and housing.
In June, our Board of Supervisors approved a five-year plan to distribute over 200 million dollars in Measure C funding to expand access to early child care and education in Alameda County.
And in July, with the advocacy of our mayor, our council members, and many, many across Oakland and the entire county, our board approved a historic 1.4 billion, 1.4 billion in investments of Measure W funds for homelessness solutions across the county.
And the majority of these funds will be invested right here in Oakland because Oakland has our largest number of unhoused residents, and we are also going to make sure those investments address racial inequities and homelessness.
So let's be clear today that Trump's threats and his deployment of the National Guard are not about safety or law.
This is about fear and control, and it is a blatant abuse of power.
That is right.
And with the passage of the big brutal budget, I want to be crystal clear that this administration is looting and dismantling our safety net.
It is shredding decades of progress, and it is leaving local governments just like ours to pick up the pieces as they strip away health care, as they strip away food security, and so much more.
And with the threats to our immigrant communities, I also want to be clear that we condemn Trump's scapegoating and attacks on immigrants.
We will stand with our immigrant community as ICE continues to sweep across the country and our state.
We will make sure that we stand together and reminding our families that our families belong together.
Everyone belongs right here, and we all have constitutional rights, the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, the right to freedom of speech.
And later this afternoon at 3 o'clock, I will be chairing our Alameda County Together for All Committee.
That committee is charged with making sure that we are analyzing the specific threats to our communities by this federal administration, its policies and its budget, and we are standing up and we are fighting back and we are protecting our communities and our safety net.
And lastly, I want to concur with the mayor, we will not be misrepresented or bullied.
We will speak truth to power, especially when our most vulnerable are being attacked and abandoned by this administration.
We will fight for justice for dignity and the basic promise of our right to housing, health care, food, and a safe community.
Today we stand together.
We will continue to stand together and take action because literally everything is on the line.
I look forward to continuing to partner with all of you to build a stronger Oakland in Alameda County.
Thank you.
And so as we've heard already from our mayor and our federal leadership, they've really made clear that you know Trump's rhetoric is not by any means representative of who we are.
And it does not define Oakland now or the future that we are working on creating together.
Trump made the statement that Oakland was so far gone, naming us alongside other historically black and brown cities like Chicago and Baltimore.
And as was mentioned, this is clearly no accident.
This narrative draws from a long, harmful pattern where leaders distort the truth about majority black communities to justify federal overreach, aggressive policing, and the erosion of our civil liberties.
And so let's be clear this is not about public safety.
It's about power.
But we know that Oakland, like many cities across the country, are making real genuine progress and change for towards community safety.
And each and every one of us in this room are fully focused on advancing policies and initiatives that focus on making Oaklanders safer and uplifting the vital work of our community-based organizations and all of the many government partners that share the same vision.
And so our city, as was mentioned, has never been defined by fear, but is defined by ourselves, working together for a brighter future.
And so, yes, we have some challenges, but you know, all of us are really working to face those head on, and we'll continue moving forward with determination, despite those who seek to underestimate the strength and resiliency of our city that we love so much, Oakland.
Good morning, everyone.
Before I get started, I wanted to just remind people here today and the individuals watching that it is the 90th anniversary of the Social Security Act in the United States of America.
My name is Carol Fife, and I'm the elected representative of Oakland's District 3, where City Hall is located.
And the reason I mention Social Security is because that is the leadership that a president who cares about the interests of his constituents will provide the social safety net that Social Security created for millions of Americans has been eroded, and we're talking about having a president who had Oakland's name in his mouth about crime, who is a convicted felon, a convicted felon trying to talk about Oakland.
I'm offended.
But because Oakland is doing the things to get us on the right track.
Under the leadership of Mayor Barbara Lee and so many community leaders that I see in this room today, we are making real changes.
We, for the first time, as we heard from our supervisor, have funds coming in to deal with the issue of homelessness that we've never had in the city of Oakland before.
We have partnerships that are growing, that we haven't had or have been frayed in the past.
So we are making the changes necessary and getting back to the basics of what it means to take care of our communities.
And we have to consider that bringing in the National Guard to the city of Oakland and the other places that the president mentioned.
I even hate saying that.
I even hate saying, President, that this authoritarian in the White House is doing as saying that needs to happen is the direct opposite of what we need.
134 million dollars was spent in Los Angeles to bring in the National Guard to sleep on floors because there was not the so-called work to be done to protect law and order in Los Angeles.
134 million dollars.
What could Oakland do with 134 million dollars?
If you care about safety, Mr.
Convicted Felon in the White House.
And those resources come in the tune of affordable housing, which the federal government divested from decades ago.
It comes from protecting our seniors.
It comes from investing in education.
And one of the first things he did in office was to sign an executive order and kick out the Department of Education.
So don't tell me that you care about crime.
And don't tell me that you care about American citizens when you're arresting hardworking American citizens every day because they immigrated to this country for a better life, typically because the United States was involved in undermining their countries.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about the United States creating wars and undermining countries and creating coups, which we saw on January 6th, and no National Guard was called in for that.
Can we talk about that?
Can we talk about how law enforcement officers were killed in this country?
And National Guard was not called in for that.
So let's be honest.
Yes, Oakland has work to do, and we are doing that work.
And we are doing that work better resource than ever.
And we will continue on that path.
But this, what we're experiencing is grooming.
It's grooming.
He knows something about that.
Grooming is to prepare us for an abusive relationship that he wants to have with the American people.
And if you do it little by little, you will prepare all of us by saying, Well, it's for those people.
It's for the criminals, it's for the homeless, it's for the immigrants.
When we lose our freedoms in this country, little by little, they will erode for all of us.
So we have to know an injustice to one as an injustice to all.
And we stand united with Baltimore.
We stand united with Chicago.
We stand united with Los Angeles, and we stand united with every single city in America, whether it has a black mayor or not, who is standing on the right side of justice.
And we will continue that fight in Oakland is ready because we stay ready.
So bring it on if you think you want it.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Jenny Ramatrandan, city council member representing Oakland's District 4.
President Trump's attack on strong blue, democratic and dare I say progressive cities like Oakland is nothing but a distraction from the train wreck of an administration that is falling apart at the seams.
Oakland is not your scapegoat, Mr.
President.
And we are not gonna let you use us as a distraction for the things that you actually have to deal with, like covering your name up in Epstein files.
Shaming our reputation internationally, not helping end war, certainly, and fueling the flames of violence in this country and abroad.
Starting tariff wars and economic wars that are harming the people you claimed to represent, American businesses and workers.
Talk of imposing the National Guard in a city like Oakland that is proudly on the rise is nothing but outlandish.
I am proud, I am so proud to be serving alongside a mayor and council that is actually putting in the real work.
Work that is yielding results, especially when it comes to fighting crime and improving our economy, revitalizing Oakland.
Now we have a long way to go, but the trends, the data, the mood in Oakland, come here for yourself.
Go to our beautiful urban Redwood Forest, take a walk around Lake Merritt, shop, go to a sports game, see for yourself how Oakland is on the up and up, not the housecape that you pretend you would like for Oakland to be.
So if you want to continue, Mr.
President, to support Oakland's rise, help us fund our schools, help us fund our roads, help us fund our fire department, dare I say help us fund our police department, help us fund our homelessness services, help us fund affordable housing, help us fund the things we need to continue to be on the up and up, not the things that will step back progress.
So, Mr.
Trump, either work with us with the city of Oakland and the things that we still need help in, or leave us alone.
Thank you.
The NAACP National President and CEO, Derek Johnson released the following statement in response to President Trump's announcement that he would deploy the National Guard to Washington, D.C.
The statements of National President Johnson apply equally to the threat to deploy the National Guard in Oakland.
President Johnson said this: the brave men and women who make the up the National Guard are our country's defense against domestic emergencies and natural disasters, not weapons against American citizens.
Deploying the National Guard in this way is not only disgraceful to our troops, but it is a waste of taxpayer dollars, and it is built on a lie.
Trump says rising violence in the Capitol endangers the public, but the Department of Justice reported that violent crime is down 35%, a 30-year low.
There's no emergency in DC, so why would he deploy the National Guard, you may ask, to distract us from the alleged inclusion from his alleged inclusion in the Epstein files, to rid the city of unhoused people.
DC has a right to govern itself, and it doesn't need this federal coup.
This president campaigned on law and order, but he is the president of chaos and corruption.
And let me add these personal comments.
Wake up, America.
Wake up and recognize this move by President Trump for what it is: a direct attack on our democracy.
These kinds of actions threaten all of us, not just the cities he's named or identified.
And no real patriot would ever so blatantly trample on our constitutional rights.
Only a person who is intent on destroying America from the inside would engage in the kind of conduct we have seen from this administration.
Dr.
Martin Luther King admonished us, it may well be that we have to repent in this generation, not merely for the vitriolic words of the bad people and the violent actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.
Who sit around and say, wait on time.
Dr.
King told us we must realize that the time is always right to do right.
The NAACP has already brought numerous lawsuits against this administration.
The NAACP will not sit by in silence.
We will continue to fight for justice and freedom as we have done since our founding in 1909.
We hope all of you will join us in this fight for the very soul of our country and for the very soul of our city.
We will not back down.
Trump's actions are rooted in racism, establishing an authoritarian regime, and white nationalism.
Over the last year, crime rates have significantly declined in Oakland.
And the National Guard is not warranted.
These actions are self-serving and seek to distract residents from important constitutional and budgetary issues.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Thank you, and um, and thank you, uh, Mayor Lee.
Um I know you've been uh champion for immigrants your entire career, so thank you for um for your work defending immigrants.
Also, thank you, uh, Supervisor Bass for uh for championing and um and working with the county uh to to um help us get assistance for for the work that we do.
Um we also invite the the city uh to uh to enter a dialogue and continue dialogue with us to uh build our resources um to be able to rise to this occasion.
Um we have an immense challenge.
Um our attorneys at a CLIP and Central Legal de la Rasa were uh we're stretched thin.
Um I haven't been sleeping many hours responding to to the many ICE arrests.
I've been going almost daily to the uh ICE uh field office on Samsung Street in San Francisco.
Um people are just traumatized.
Uh they're being held in deplorable conditions um that are completely in violation of human rights and frankly decency and morality.
Um I I go there and I I talk to people.
You all have heard the story about the child who is uh who was detained along with um five of his housemates and family members, um, and I speaking with a child who's going through that.
I have um it's it's just about as excruciating as you can imagine.
Um he's you know, he was terrified, he was in tears.
Um when I had to explain that his um family members had been transferred, he just were down in tears, um, just feeling left behind.
Um it was clear that ICE was completely unprepared to hold a uh to hold a child.
He had to be in this um holding cell, and let me describe it to you.
It's um it's just a bare floor, cement floor.
Um they are just given a piece of plastic to use as a blanket.
Um there are often multiple people held in this holding cells.
I've heard from uh arrested persons up to five in one small holding cell.
Again, just a concrete floor toilet just exposed there.
Um, so you have to go to the toilet in front of all these other uh people.
Um it's inhumane and it should not be happening uh anywhere in the world, let alone in the Bay Area.
Um so I'm here also to answer questions about the um about the arrest uh and the raid of uh of the six uh who uh who were held at the Ice Field Office, including the child, as well as a uh person with down syndrome.
Um a child and a person with down syndrome should never be detained.
Point blank.
They should not be held in a detention center, much less in a detention center that isn't even built to hold anyone more than than a few hours.
Um, so I I again I I call on um on the city to continue dialogue with us to to build the resources.
We are worried about just responding to the current challenge, but as was already mentioned with the uh the reconciliation bill will uh send 76 billion dollars to ICE.
That's it's an enormous challenge, and frankly, we are um we are worried uh to how we are going to rise to this challenge.
Um we need attorneys, um, social workers, response staff uh to to be able to uh to deal with this.
We are looking into filing a habeas petition um uh and uh TRO motion for uh for people who have been detained.
We we have the tools, but we need the resources to uh to be able to fight back and to uh to defend our community.
One in three Oakland residents are foreign-born.
So it doesn't just affect the um the family of the person, of the persons who were arrested, and I I've speaked spoken with the uh the mother and aunt several times, and and she's you know broken down.
She is completely terrified how they are going to make ends meet, how when she is gonna see her loved ones again.
Um, and it doesn't just affect the family members of the persons who are arrested, it affects the whole immigrant community uh in Oakland.
So again, one in three people are foreign-born.
I guarantee you that none of them are going to sleep comfortably tonight.
And I guarantee you, so many of them will lie awake tonight worried about what's gonna happen with them, with their children, with their neighbors and friends and family members.
So uh I can I can take some questions.
Um, if uh oh, not right now.
Okay, my bad.
Um so uh y'all thank you all for for coming here.
Uh it does give us support to see uh just give us hope to see this this support in the community, and uh thanks again to to the mayor uh and to everyone here, Supervisor Vass for being here, and um yeah, I look forward to to working together with you all.
Hi, good morning.
Is it still morning?
I'm Jamaica Moon and I'm raised in Oakland and currently a public work supervisor.
Um my job, we sweep the streets, pick up illegal dumping, and we keep our neighborhoods clean and safe every day for our residents and for our visitors.
And while we go block to block to keep Oakland beautiful, we see how every block is home to vibrant, hardworking, and powerful communities.
I want to tell every Oaklander that city workers, we have your back.
And let's call it like it is.
Trump's agenda is a disaster for working people.
And now he wants to point fingers and create fear.
We reject his cruel deportation machine, we reject his fascist occupations, we reject his racism, and we reject his lies.
Trump is picking on the wrong city.
We're going to keep moving Oakland forward, and we're gonna keep standing tall.
Thank you to everybody who spoke, and proud to be standing up here speaking with you all.
Thank you.
So again, I'm Danielle Motley Lewis, president of the Bewapa Oakland Berkeley chapter that's black women organized for political action.
I won't stay long.
I'm just gonna continue to set the record straight, as my colleagues and friends have already done.
Oakland is not in a crisis.
We are in a transformation.
We all need to share stories of progress, unity, and that transformation, not headlines.
As our mayor has reported, violent crime is down twenty eight percent from the previous year, with major drops in homicide, assault, rape, and even robbery.
These gains are real, thanks to community leadership and smart partnerships with law enforcement.
Trump's recent remarks paint a false narrative of our city.
Using the same tired, racially charged stereotypes that have been used against black and brown, black led democratic cities for decades.
But as my our um my sister, um Rowena Brown and our council member has said, we reject that fear-based uh narrative.
Oakland's future depends on facts, not fear.
It depends on unity, not division.
Whether you're in the media, a pastor, a politician, law enforcement, a teacher, a business owner, an artist, or an activist.
Oakland's success is all of our responsibility.
And we are grateful for Mayor Lee's leadership, her courage, and her vision as we move forward together.
We all do.
Thank you.
So to all of you, I want to encourage you, this is the season, this is the time.
This is the era, this is the moment that we all must begin to lift up Oakland, promote Oakland, invest in Oakland, live in Oakland, work in Oakland, and most of all, celebrate Oakland.
Thank you so much for coming.
God bless you.
Um, I'm not sure.
Tomorrow's healers.
Makers.
Educator.
Tomorrow's uniters.
And two greaters.
Tomorrow's vaccine creators.
The promise of a brighter tomorrow is at home with you today.
Of finishing this war.
And we are ready for trilateral as presidents.
I think this is very good.
In an unusual show of diplomatic force, seven senior European leaders joined Ukrainian President Zelensky for meetings with President Trump at the White House Monday.
Trump's now trying to arrange a summit between Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin to end the war in Ukraine.
But Trump did not call for an immediate ceasefire.
Will there be a negotiated peace to end the war in Ukraine?
What could it look like?
What's at stake for Ukraine, Russia, Europe, and the U.S.?
We'll host a debate between political science professor John Mirsheimer in Chicago and Ukrainian historian and socialist activist Dennis Pilash, who'll join us from Kiev, the capital of Ukraine.
Then to California, where an immigrant rights activist and nurse was violently detained while monitoring ICE agents earlier this month.
You need to get it out!
Get off her head!
We'll speak to Amanda Travak, a US citizen who was violently detained, then released from federal custody without charge.
All that and more coming up.
Welcome to Democracy Now, Democracy Now.org, the war and peace report.
I'm Mimi Goodman.
President Trump says he's arranging trilateral talks aimed at ending Russia's war in Ukraine.
Trump made the claim after wrapping up a hastily arranged summit at the White House Monday with European and NATO leaders joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Trump promised the U.S.
would help guarantee Ukraine's security in any future peace deal with Russia, but said European countries would lead the efforts.
Trump did not clarify whether he'd send US forces to Ukrainian soil if necessary.
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said Berlin remained open to participating in a peacekeeping mission.
He also said the next round of negotiations should come only after Russia and Ukraine agree to a ceasefire.
Let's try to put pressure on Russia because the credibility of this efforts, these efforts we are undertaking today, are depending on at least a ceasefire from the beginning of the serious negotiations from next step on.
Tens of thousands of Palestinians are fleeing Gaza City as Israel intensifies its attacks on the Gaza Strip's largest population center ahead of a full-scale military invasion.
Al Jazeera reports Israeli attacks today have killed at least 26 people, among them eight Palestinians, killed in a strike on tents housing displaced families in Khanunis, and another four killed in an attack on tents in Derabala.
Two people were reportedly shot and killed, seeking aid at a distribution site run by the notorious Israel and US-backed so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
Meanwhile, an airdrop of humanitarian aid over Dira Bala on Monday set off a scramble amongst desperately hungry people hoping for a meal.
Displaced Palestinian Amin Abu Muxib came away empty-handed.
This is aerial humiliation, not airdropping.
The package is filled with about 12 boxes.
More than a thousand people gather on the package.
People crush each other.
And it's not enough for a single family.
People are fighting.
Here you hear gunfire.
There you find someone dead under the package.
We can't take it anymore.
Hamas says it has agreed to a proposal for a 60-day ceasefire that would see it release 10 living hostages and the bodies of eighteen dead hostages in return for hundreds of Palestinians being held in Israeli prisons.
The proposal is almost identical to an earlier ceasefire plan advanced by the US envoy Steve Whitkoff.
Israeli media report, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has dismissed the offer and signaled he still plans to invade Gaza City and forcefully displace its entire population to the southern Gaza Strip.
This after on Sunday, close to a million Israelis demanded that Netanyahu not invade Gaza City and agree to a ceasefire and a release of the hostages in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Islamic State-backed fighters armed with machetes, killed at least 52 civilians, including women and children in the eastern regions of Beni and Lubero.
That's according to the UN, which reports that in recent days, ISIL-backed rebels with the Allied Democratic forces set homes on fire, tied up residents, and attacked them with machetes and hose.
ADF is among several militia groups clashing over land and resources in the mineral rich eastern DRC.
This is a local official from Benin.
On Monday, Texas's Republican Speaker of the House, Dustin Burroughs, said Democratic lawmakers would only be allowed to leave the House chambers if they agreed to be released into the custody of Texas law enforcement.
Democratic state rep Nicole Collier of Fort Worth was forced to sleep on the floor of Texas's state capitol overnight after she refused the order rather than accept the mother trigger.
Writing on social media, Trump also said he planned to target, quote, highly inaccurate, very expensive, and seriously controversial voting machines, unquote.
Trump's pledge came just days after he made these comments to Fox News following talks in Alaska with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
You know, Vladimir Putin said something, one of the most interesting things.
He said your election was rigged because you have mail-in voting.
Constitutional scholars have rejected Trump's plans to ban Malin ballots and voting machines by executive order as a non starter, as state and local governments are in charge of administering elections.
Newsmax has agreed to pay 67 million dollars to settle a lawsuit brought by vote Dominion voting systems over the far right TV channel's repeated lies about the 2020 election.
Following Joe Biden's victory, Newsmax personalities and guests spread the baseless conspiracy theory that the election results were fraudulent, and that Dominion's voting hardware and software were to blame.
Two more Republican governors have announced they're dispatching National Guard troops to Washington, D.C.
to assist President Trump's federal takeover of law enforcement in the nation's capital.
The additional forces from Mississippi and Louisiana bring the total number of National Guard troops deployed to DC to over 1,800.
Vermont's Republican governor Phil Scott has declined a federal request to send his state's National Guard soldiers.
Meanwhile, Reuters reports the White House has dispatched social media teams alongside FBI agents executing arrest warrants to generate videos promoting Trump's crackdown on DC.
The practice violates longstanding Justice Department norms against politicizing criminal investigations.
The social media teams filmed and edited a video showing the arrest of Sean Charles Dunn, a Justice Department employee, who was fired and charged with assault after he shouted fascists at federal agents and hurled a subway sandwich at one of them.
A video of Dunn's arrest posted on X has garnered 2.4 million views.
Trump's hand-picked interim U.S.
attorney for Washington, D.C., former Fox News personality Janine Pierrot celebrated Dunn's arrest.
And then he took a subway sandwich about this big and took it and threw it at the officer.
He thought it was funny.
Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charge him with a felony.
Assault on a police officer.
And we're gonna back the police to the hilt.
In California, hundreds of people gathered for a vigil Friday demanding justice for 52-year-old Carlos Roberto Montoya, an immigrant from Guatemala, who was struck and killed on the freeway as he tried to escape federal immigration agents during a raid at a home depot in Monrovia.
Montoya has lived in the United States for three years and was a day laborer.
He has four daughters and grandchildren.
His death comes as federal immigration raids have increasingly targeted immigrant workers, with activists condemning companies like Home Depot over their complicity.
And the union representing thousands of striking Air Canada flight attendants announced early Tuesday morning.
It had reached a tentative contract deal with the airline, ending a day's long walkout.
The agreement must still be approved by the 10,000 flight attendants who walked off the job Saturday demanding higher wages.
The workers defied government-issued orders, deeming their strike illegal, risking fines and even possible jail time.
This is Mark Hancock, president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees speaking Monday in Ontario.
And actually be able to afford a roof over their heads to afford caring for their families.
And if it means folks like me going to jail, then so be it.
The tentative deal comes after about eight months of negotiations.
Air Canada is Canada's largest airline.
And those are some of the headlines.
This is Democracy Now, DemocracyNow.org, the War and Peace Report.
When we come back, we look at the summit at the White House yesterday.
What is the future for Russia and Ukraine?
We'll host a debate from Chicago and Kyiv.
Stay with us.
This is Democracy Now, Democracy Now.org, the War and Peace Report.
I'm Amy Goodman.
President Trump says he's begun arranging for a summit between Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin, followed by a trilateral summit with the goal of ending Russia's war on Ukraine.
Trump made the announcement after hosting a high stakes summit at the White House with Zelensky and seven European leaders.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron, Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, Finland's President Alexander Stub, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.
The meeting came three days after Trump held face to face talks with Putin in Alaska.
Major differences remain between Ukraine and Russia.
Trump also talked to Putin for 40 minutes in the midst of his meeting with the European leaders in LeZelensky.
Putin's insisting Russia keep areas of Ukraine that it seized, including the Donbas region.
During his meeting with Trump, Zelensky stressed the importance of security guarantees for Ukraine.
It's not a part for the war and to defend us.
It's also will be a part for security guarantees.
For example, the question of air defense, we spoke about it with President Trump, and I'm happy that we have now bilateral decisions and we'll work on it with production of American production.
Nobody in Europe has so many uh air defense like patriots, for example.
We need it very much, and this is also about defending.
After the meeting, President Trump promised the U.S.
would help guarantee Ukraine's security in any future peace deal with Russia, but said European countries would lead the efforts and didn't clarify whether he'd send US forces to Ukrainian soil.
The Financial Times reports Ukraine offered the US a hundred billion dollar weapons deal to help win security guarantees.
During the White House summit, German Chancellor Friedrich Meers pressed for a ceasefire before Russia and Ukraine hold direct talks.
Now the path is open.
You opened it last uh Friday.
But now the way is open for complicated negotiations.
And to be honest, we all would like to see a ceasefire, the latest from the next meeting on.
I can't imagine that the next meeting would took place without a ceasefire.
So let's work on that and let's try to put pressure on Russia because the credibility of this efforts, these efforts we are undertaking today, are depending on at least a ceasefire from the beginning of the serious negotiations from next step on.
So I would like to emphasize this aspect and would like to see a ceasefire from the next uh meeting, which should be a trilateral meeting wherever it takes place.
Although before Trump's summit with Putin in Alaska, he promised severe consequences if Putin didn't agree to a ceasefire.
He is now dismissing the need for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine.
You know, if you look at the six deals that I settled this year, they were all at war.
I didn't do any ceasefires.
And uh I know that it might be good to have, but I can also understand strategically why, well, you know, one country or the other wouldn't want it.
You have a ceasefire and they rebuild and rebuild and rebuild, and you know, maybe they don't want that.
But if you look at the six deals that we made peace, and you know, long-term, long-running wars, I didn't do any ceasefires.
This all comes as Russia launched 270 drones and 10 missiles overnight in what's being called Russia's largest air strike on Ukraine since July.
We're joined now by two guests.
John Meersheimer is a professor of political science at the University of Chicago, author of most recently, How States Think the Rationality of Foreign Policy.
In 2014, he wrote a widely read piece for foreign affairs headlined why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's fault.
He's joining us from Chicago.
And in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine, we're joined by Dennis Pilash, a Ukrainian political scientist, historian, a member of the Ukrainian Democratic Socialist Organization.
So it's Yao Nirul, and an editor at Commons Journal of Social Criticism.
Let's begin with Dennis Pilash in Kyiv.
Uh actually, we're going to go to Professor Mirsheimer in Chicago.
If you can respond to what's taken place, we just had you on Friday, but that was even before the Trump Putin summit in Alaska.
So these developments that are quite historic over the last few days, from that summit to the meeting at the White House, and what you think has been accomplished.
Well, I don't think that much has changed, Amy.
Uh I think the Europeans and the Ukrainians remain deeply committed to a ceasefire.
The Russians are opposed, and Trump made it clear that there was not going to be a ceasefire.
With regard to a real peace agreement, uh, I think the sides remain so far apart uh that it's hard to imagine that you're going to get a peace agreement.
Uh what Trump would like to do is he'd like Zelensky and Putin to sit down and work out a deal.
But I don't understand how that could possibly happen given the position of the Europeans and the Ukrainians on one side and the Russians on the other side.
The third thing that I take away from this meeting is that you see that the Europeans and Ukraine are basically joined at the hip.
There is hardly any daylight between the positions on each side.
And the outlier here is really Trump.
If you look at the meeting, you just look at the photographs, you listen to the conversation, it's really like Trump arrayed against the Europeans and the Ukrainians.
And I think what Trump is trying to do, and you saw this reflected in the meeting, is he's trying to move away ever so gently from this conflict.
He is no longer interested in taking full responsibility.
And he's putting the burden of dealing with the Russians on the Ukrainians and on the Europeans.
And this is why he's pushing for a meeting between uh President Putin and President Zelensky that does not include him, because he wants them to figure out how to solve it.
He's tried, he's been unable to do it.
I want to get Dennis Pilash's take.
We uh just had our connection drop in the Capitol Kyiv.
Uh, but I think we're reconnected right now.
The Ukrainian political scientist, historian, member of the Ukrainian Democratic Socialist Organization.
As you look at what happened in Alaska, Dennis on Friday, right through to this historic meeting at the White House on Monday, um, your response to whether you think there's been any progress made, and if you think a peace deal is on the horizon, well, honestly, uh it isn't likely that a real peace deal or even a ceasefire uh is uh on the horizon because uh the war that was deliberately unleashed on uh Ukrainian people by the Russian leadership and uh that is now ongoing for more than three years.
Uh well uh the coming of Trump to the White House has only made the things worse because what we have seen from the current administration in Washington, uh the this uh arguably the most far right administration in the US history, was the uh appeasement strategy that was uh like emphasizing their uh affinity with uh Putin and with other authoritarian leaders throughout the world.
And uh this uh Alaska meeting, many people were really afraid that this can be something akin to Munich conference back in 1938 with uh carving up Czechoslovakia without the presence even of the representatives of the government, Edward Benish, the president and others.
Uh but ultimately uh it seems that uh no real um difference was made and uh um now in the latest meeting maybe President Zelensky uh had to set another world record for uh saying thank you per minute or uh appeasing pleasing the uh majority of Green's uh boyfriend with his suit, but it seems that the positions of the sides they haven't really changed, and that Russia is still pushing for this maximalist demands for uh grabbing as much Ukrainian land as it can, even that those territories, and this means also the people living there that haven't been occupied by uh Russian forces yet, and uh ultimately there is no actual bona fide agreement and uh no real um intention to uh make real peace talks and uh really find any sort of compromise because this is uh all about this right of the force that is imposed on a weaker country, and now uh many people were going across uh with all these narratives of the so-called proxy war.
But now when we see images of, for instance, Ukrainians being deported together with other people, subject to this uh completely humiliating ice procedures from the US, and no person is illegal, uh, and uh for instance uh images of a Russian armored personal carrier waving both Russian and American flags invading Ukrainian land, uh maybe this means that uh in this situation, Trump and Putin are clearly on on one side that Putin is uh now uh being supported and uh promoted by the current US administration.
What do you think of President Trump backtracking on the issue of a ceasefire?
He seems to be saying they can get to a peace deal without needing an interim ceasefire.
Um but the idea that before he met with President Putin, he said Putin would face serious consequences, you know, sanctions if he didn't agree to a ceasefire, but now he says he doesn't see the need, and then in other peace deals he's negotiated, they didn't have to have a ceasefire first.
Yes, so this is another concession made by Trump for uh Putin, and uh it it was rather uncommon for him to make any harsh statements towards uh the Kremlin today, uh, because uh ultimately from his coming to power uh till now, the main line was really to find ways to really court Vladimir Putin, and it seems that um in order to be really greeted by the current US government, you need to be at least uh war criminal wanted by the international criminal court.
So this goes for both Netanyahu and Putin.
Uh, and if you are not, then you are humiliated and you're uh into uh completely uneven, unequal conditions um by Trump went and their cronies.
Uh so this means that uh the line of the Russian government, that is to deny any prospect for the uh ceasefire, and ceasefire should be the meaningful prerequisite for any sort of further talks.
Yes, if we uh if they don't agree stop to stop killing civilians to stop attacks on civilian infrastructure, what uh w what are any prospects of uh any, you know, like agreement if they cannot make this simple concession?
And this was the line of uh Moscow for the entirety of this time uh to deny to reject any proposals, any suggestions to stop killing civilians.
And just these days we've experienced another attacks on Ukrainian cities.
Uh, it has to be said that June and July have been one of the deadliest months since the outset of the full-scale invasion back in uh February 2022 by the number of civilian dust toll.
And uh uh, for instance, recently, Sumi State Univer University Premise has been destroyed by Russian shelling, and this meant that another um educational facility joined thousands of universities, schools, hospitals that have been destroyed or damaged by by Russian attacks.
So you could see no even uh pretending to uh go um to some compromise on the Russian side.
It's uh still their language ult ultimatums and pressuring and actually uh raising Ukrainian cities to the ground.
So let's get the response of Professor John Meersheimer.
Um if you can respond to what Dennis Pilash has said, and also talk about this issue of, you know, if Ukraine doesn't join NATO, that they get, and it might have surprised many, especially on the MAGA right, this possibility of US security guarantees which could uh lead up to US troops on the ground um in Ukraine.
Well, my main argument in response to what Mr.
Pilaj said is that he greatly overestimates what President Trump could do here.
The fact is the Russians say unequivocally that they will not accept a ceasefire.
What is Trump supposed to do?
He can't force the Russians to accept the ceasefire.
What Trump has done is he's recognized reality, which is you're not gonna get a ceasefire, and therefore he's moved on to talking about a peace agreement.
He has no choice.
Trump is powerless in this regard.
Secondly, with regard to working out some sort of peace deal, Trump can't do it.
And the reason Trump can't do it is because the Ukrainians and the and the Europeans on one side and the Russians on the other side are miles apart.
There's no basis for compromise here.
And Trump can't create a basis for compromise.
And furthermore, he can't coerce the Russians into agreeing to Ukraine's terms, and he can't coerce the Ukrainians and the Europeans on the other side to agree to Russia's terms.
So this one is gonna be settled on the battlefield.
Uh, and what Trump wants to do is he wants to back away, and he wants to turn responsibility for this war mainly over to the Europeans and the Ukrainians.
Let them see what happens on the battlefield, and then they could work out an arrangement with Putin.
This is the direction that we're headed in.
Now, the second question you ask, Amy, is what do I think about security guarantees?
What the Ukrainians want and what the Europeans want is for the United States to give Ukraine a viable security guarantee, something akin to Article 5 of the NATO treaty.
This is categorically unacceptable to the Russians.
This war is all about Ukraine's membership in NATO and Ukraine having a security guarantee from NATO.
That's unacceptable to the Russians.
And you have to understand that if Ukraine is not in NATO, yet Ukraine has a security guarantee, a real security guarantee from the United States, that's effectively the same thing as being inside of NATO.
And the Russians are not going to tolerate that.
So what you'll get if you get a security guarantee is some sort of vague language that has no real punch to it.
And at the same time, the Russians will make it clear that they will have a veto over any US or European commitment to coming to the aid of Ukraine at a crisis.
So you're not going to get a security guarantee.
And the Russians are going to continue to demand that Ukrainian disarm to the point where it has no offensive capability against Russia.
But of course, the Europeans are arguing, and Ukraine is arguing that if anything, what should happen here is that the Europeans and the Americans should be allowed to rearm Ukraine and make it stronger.
This is antithetical to the Russians.
Again, this is why you have no agreement on substance.
And even if Trump succeeds in getting Putin and Zelensky to sit down and talk, I ask, where is that gonna lead, given that they don't agree on anything?
What are your thoughts on what this would mean?
Whether it's European security guarantees or US.
Well, first of all, I would like to respond to this general narrative about this everything about NATO.
Ukraine wasn't going to be a member of NATO because of the position of the major European member states.
And this was well known.
And actually the main salesman for NATO, both in Ukraine and in the Nordic countries, in Sweden and Finland, was Putin himself, because prior to the annexation of Crimea and to uh stirring up the war in Donbass by Russia, the support for NATO membership in Ukraine was rather low.
And uh it was a very vague prospect that wasn't really pursued.
And only after all this Russian aggression happened, it was skyrocketing.
And the same goes for Finland, for instance.
And uh given the fact that Finland joined NATO and the Russia NATO border has doubled, we see no reaction on the side of Russia.
So if we give give uh into this assumption that uh it's all about NATO, then they would panic that NATO is coming to St.
Petersburg and so on.
But it doesn't happen because actually the reason for the war is much more complex and it's rooted in the agency of Russian imperialism itself.
And what's really appalling in many people on the left falling for the narratives that are pursued by Mr.
Mirsheimer, is that we really abandon class analysis.
We forget about what everything is about, that states aren't some sort of monolithic interests.
They are comprised of different classes and their contradictions, and even the ruling classes have their internal contradictions.
And there is lots of reasons, economic, ideological, political, that uh lay behind these complex issues.
And just by you know, rejecting domestic factors as uh shaping international policy as well, we go nowhere.
So uh now, if we speak about what's happening now, so obviously Ukraine needs some sort of guarantees, uh, and uh without it, it seems completely futile because this so-called peace agreement will mean just not just abandoning millions of people for the sake of the occupier.
With all the brutality of occupation, and I can just mention I used uh to work briefly with the journalist Viktoria Roshina.
Uh so she was kidnapped at the occupied territories, she was detained illegally by by the Russians.
She was ultimately tortured and killed, and then her body was returned with organs missing to conceal the tortures, and this is a fate that is really not that uncommon for the people in this gray zone of the occupation.
But this also means that uh Ukraine will be completely harmless, you know, like without any protection from further Russian attacks.
So at any point, Russia will have all the capacity and no restrained to repeat what they did back in 2020.
So, what sort of peace are we even arguing about?
This is not a peace, this is a continuation of the war.
This is the war and occupation in other terms.
So ultimately, it's quite natural that Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, they want some guarantees that uh the situation with Budapest uh memorandum that was just torn apart by one of its states that was guaranteed it that it's uh not repeated.
And uh well, this means that you need to have countries that will provide some sort of guarantees that they will act against further attempts of aggression.
This doesn't mean purely Western countries.
You can try to reach out to the countries of the global south, because the precedent that is set by the Russian invasion of Ukraine that one country tries to redraw unilaterally international borders by the war of aggression, it it may unleash an even worse mayhem throughout the world if it's really enshrined in a sort of you know, like agreement where we reward the aggressor.
So this will have very dire consequences for countries throughout other regions as well.
So we can also try to get a broader picture, a broader framework, and uh broader number of countries that can act in order to prevent this, but obviously what's now on the table and what's uh pursued by by Washington isn't uh really uh interested in any sort of um guaranteeing Ukrainian integrity, security, anything.
So it's all about dividing the world into spheres of influence and then this world carved up by this great states, everyone can do whatever they want in their backyard.
So this is the same for Putin as well.
Let me ask Professor Meirsheimer about something you've written, um Dennis P.
Lash.
Um, Professor Mirsheimer, Pilash warns of a new access uh emerging, bringing together Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, the far right in Europe and various authoritarian regimes from around the world, calling for the left to defend a renewed internationalism that opposes all oppressors.
Your response, I think that uh Trump is simply trying to improve relations with Russia in this case, and he's simply trying to shut down the Ukraine war.
I think that is in the Americas, Americans' national interest, America's national interest.
I think it is in Ukraine's national interest.
I think if we could end this war, that would be a good thing.
I do not think that Trump is interested in joining into some sort of worldwide alliance with right-wing governments, including the Russian government, uh, to suppress uh liberal democracies around the world.
I don't think that that's happening here.
It's interesting because aren't you very critical of Trump when it comes to what's happening in Gaza and his support for Netanyahu?
It's interesting to see that table yesterday at the White House, where you have one European leader after another uh demanding a ceasefire.
What mayors is calling for an arms embargo against Israel, you've got um uh Stormer and um uh Macron calling for recognition of the Palestinian state.
It would be interesting for them to take on uh Israel's occupation of Gaza and what's going on there at the same time they were talking about Ukraine.
You're not gonna get any argument from me on that.
Uh the whole question of US policy toward Israel is fundamentally different than the question of US policy towards Russia.
I think that US policy toward Israel, especially with regard to Gaza, is abhorrent.
You know that.
Uh but I think Russia is a different matter.
I think that Trump is on the right side with regard to Ukraine.
He's not interested in selling the Ukrainians down the river.
He doesn't have animosity towards Ukraine.
What Trump is interested in doing is trying to get the Ukrainians to recognize reality and to understand that from Ukraine's point of view, the best outcome would be to settle this war now.
Yes, is it going to be settled on terms that are favorable to the Russians?
Of course, because the Russians are in the driver's seat on the battlefield, and there's nothing that Ukraine and the United States can do to reverse that situation.
But he's not Trump trying to sell the Ukrainians down the river.
He's trying to settle this war.
And he can't do it because the Ukrainians and the Europeans on one side and the Russians on the other side can't reach any sort of uh agreement on the terms of a settlement.
But that's basically what's going on here.
Uh Denis Pilash, your response, and do you agree that this is going to be settled on the battlefield?
Is this what you want to see?
No, this is only a part of the again broader picture because still there are things that can be done to curb Russia's potential to wage this imperialist aggressive war.
And still there are many loopholes in the economic sanctions against Russia that are uh like taken up only recently.
For instance, the case of the uh Shadow fleet of uh Russian oil tankers that are shipping um oil uh under other guise of other countries uh and actually profiteering the Russian war machine.
And uh still there is a lot of things that could be done actually to reframe, redraw the broader security architecture, and not to, you know, reward the aggressive states.
So uh this is not just about what's happening on the battlefield, but it's part of the obviously the part of the uh broader picture.
And uh while uh Russia is um going with all this indiscriminate killing of uh Ukrainians, regardless they are civilians or servicemen who used to be yesterday civilians.
I stay uh stand on the uh Maidan Nezaleznosti Square, where just yesterday we had the funeral of our comrade anarchist act activist and artist David Chichkan, who uh also died on the front line because he deemed Russia to be a major fascist threat, and uh he, as many Ukrainians saw no other option as to take up arms and to resist.
But ultimately, this is uh again about not trying to make the picture more rosier for for the aggressor and trying to for whatever it does, uh, then we hear this response that there is some rationale behind this.
And Mr.
Mitsheimer and his co-author, they uh went so far to uh try to rationalize even the decision of Hitler to uh start the worst bloodbust in in world history by attacking the Soviet Union in the Second World War.
But uh ultimately uh this is nothing rational and nothing pragmatic in uh resorting to war as your main way of doing international policy.
And uh I mean this means that we need to really be consistent in the positions, both on Ukraine, on Palestine, and broader for for all those people who are subject to oppression to aggression to subjugation to more powerful imperialist or sub-imperialist forces.
So this needs, at least for the people on the left who believe in uh progressive values, uh, that we are against any such policies, and that we unite in our solidarity.
And first of all, this means that we should at least try to listen to each other, to understand the situation on the ground, to listen to the people on the ground.
And uh, well, uh it's sometimes also appalling when we see major outlets who try to discuss Ukraine or Central Eastern Europe without even inviting people from the region, just some westerners.
And I think I hope that the democracy now that has done so much uh great things to expose the truce, uh, and you personally, Amy, starting from the genocide in Istimor, uh, to give voice to the oppressed to the attacked, that you will uh go on to invite more voices from uh our region and more voices from oppressed people throughout the world.
Well, we're gonna have to leave it there.
I thank you so much, Dennis Pilash, for joining us from Ukraine's capital from Kyiv.
Dennis Pilash is a Ukrainian political scientist and historian, a member of the Ukrainian democratic socialist organization, and editor at Commons, the Journal of Social Criticism.
And thanks so much to John Mirsheimer, political science professor uh at the University of Chicago, speaking to us from Chicago.
Coming up, we go to California, where an immigrant rights activist and nurse was violently detained while monitoring ice agents earlier this month.
Stay with us.
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We go now to Los Angeles, California, where grassroots organizers are challenging some of the most intense federal shows of force and immigration enforcement crackdowns of Trump's second term.
Earlier this month, the community activist, ICU nurse, Amanda Treba, was violently arrested while documenting the operations of ICEA.
She's a member of the group Union Del Barrio.
At the time of her arrest, Amanda was participating in a peace patrol outside Terminal Island, a Coast Guard base used by ICE and customs and border protection as a hub for operations in California.
Dozens of volunteers have routinely stationed themselves outside Terminal Island to monitor the movement of the federal vehicles streaming in and out of the staging area.
Terminal Island was once a thriving Japanese American fishing village that was demolished during World War II with its residents forcibly sent to internment camps.
Footage of Amanda Traybach's arrest shows two plain clothes, masked agents pinning her against the pavement as they kneel on her back and head to handcuff her.
One of the agents, yes, seen putting his knee on Treybach's head for a brief moment as a person recording yells, get off her head.
Get off her head!
Get off me!
You need to get it out!
Get off her head!
Streaming live.
This is Ice beating her up.
They got her knee on the head.
I am where I need to be 10 feet.
So get in the van.
Sir, you okay?
Yeah.
Amanda Treybach is a U.S.
citizen.
She was forced into an unmarked black van by at least half a dozen unidentified agents.
Her release from federal custody came amidst pressure from activists, community protests, and the National Nurses United Union.
Amanda Traybach is joining us now.
Welcome to Democracy Now.
Amanda, I'm glad you're out.
We spoke to your colleague Ron Gochez to describe what happened to you before you were speaking.
Can you explain exactly why you were there?
What you were intending to do as a peace patrol, warning people about the ICE agents and what they did to you.
Yes, thank you so much for having me on this morning, Amy.
I really appreciate the opportunity.
So myself and other uh many other people and groups um uh have been at Terminal Island, which as you had mentioned um is near the uh the port of LA in San Pedro, um near Long Beach, California.
Um we've been there legally monitoring the activity of ICE on and um comings and goings off the island um and alerting the community um specifically the Harbor Area Peace Patrols has been wonderful and um and alerting the community um not only of the vehicles uh to look out for um and uh so they can feel safer, but also what areas are safe in um and around the neighborhood where ice is not um so people can go to the park, they can go to the um the grocery store and feel as though they're not going to be taken and kidnapped.
Uh so uh what we've also been doing is um uh we've seen these uh vehicles at Terminal Island, almost every single one of them out in the LA area.
It's small and large uh raids across the area.
Um we can uh directly um uh connect them back to Terminal Island and um living in our communities, staying in our communities in Long Beach.
Uh so we're also connecting um uh license plates.
These vehicles are either they have license plates that are not um uh connected to these vehicles.
They're there uh we have indications um and photo evidence that the license plates are being changed as well.
Um, and that some uh don't even have license plates.
So, you know, that um is something that we're doing, but also just making sure the community um is aware of what is happening, um, what to look out for um so they can uh feel a little bit safer as well.
So explain what happened to you, and this wasn't the first attempt of ICE to arrest you.
No, so we are on public property.
Um, when we're there, it's actually by the Japanese memorial um on the uh civilian side of Terminal Island.
Um, so uh at one point I was going on uh to the island to park to to peacefully monitor and document.
Um uh I was pulling in uh to park and I was blocked in by ICE agents um and actually I backed up to try to park, and they um uh jumped out of their vehicle.
They were masked, uh, and they they had their large guns, they pulled them on me.
Uh, they illegally tried to open my door.
Thank goodness it was locked.
Um, I did not allow them in.
I said no.
Uh I backed up uh and they then tried to block me in again uh and finally I pulled into the parking spot and they sped off.
So tell us then about, and we're watching it right now, the video of you being taken on what was it, August 8th?
Yes, yes.
So we were out uh on uh Terminal Island, uh just like any other day monitoring um to to be able to alert the community um of vehicles uh to look out for.
Uh and um we had um our our you know our sign saying uh this terminal island is not safe.
San Pedro is not safe with uh ICE agents here, and um we for some reason they came out in a large convoy that morning uh and they uh I guess their tactics have been changing, they've been frustrated.
The community um, you know, is is aware, LA is aware of what they were doing is illegal.
Um they are kidnapping us, and I say kidnappers because they're not federal agents.
Uh many of them, some of them are not federal agents, they're vigilantes.
Uh, we don't know who they are, they're masked, they're not telling us who they are.
So they came out in a convoy, um, they jumped out of the vehicle.
Um as you could see, they um uh pinned me to the ground um uh and um put uh they handcuffed me.
They took me uh into an unmarked vehicle, they did not read me my rights, uh they didn't tell me where I was going.
They shut the vehicle.
Uh they they drove me to the other side of the non-civilian side of Terminal Island.
Um and basically they kidnapped me.
Uh I didn't know what was going on.
I was there for four hours.
All of their kidnapping on your head, yeah.
Yeah, their knee was on my head, um, my face was on the concrete, my head was hurting.
Uh, the the night that um I was in uh they took me to the detention center.
Uh it was hurting very bad.
My shoulder actually and my hip, um uh because they pinned me down so hard to the ground.
Um, and then you know they were very uh rough with me, violent with me.
Uh when they got me into the uh after they closed the door of the truck um and took me to the other side of Terminal Island, um, and I had to wait there for hours and hours without knowing what was happening.
Finally, a woman who said she was from Homeland Security, she came um, and at that point in time they had put me in another unmarked vehicle with two masked uh people, I guess that were drivers of some sort, and this entire time.
Uh the port police, uh, the port authority um was aware, they saw what was going on.
No one tried to assist me, no one tried to help.
They see the guns being drawn um on me.
So um, can you talk about where you were held in these last uh minute where you were held, the federal facility, the conditions you witnessed there?
Sure, sure.
Um so though the water was not good.
Um I was not giving any uh toiletries to speak up.
I was told I would have to purchase a cup, you know, and thank goodness I was um the community came around.
Uh the Union del Barrio community self-defense coalition, all um all power free clinic.
Uh uh, you know, we're not stepping down.
Um that's why I was freed as a political prisoner uh because of the community coming together.
And and we know these tactics are escalating.
Um ICE uh kidnappers are escalating, they're not um following the temporary restraining order that is um been carried out by the judge.
Um they're coming after us, they're escalating their tactics.
And the impact here, we're growing.
Uh the impact overall, Amanda, on the community and especially the targeted community.
Undocumented immigrants, but it goes much broader than that because anyone who they suspect of being undocumented, many being arrested, being deported.
Um, and why you as a nurse decided this is your role.
Uh this is your job right now.
Well, as a nurse in South Central Um LA, I I see that um uh my patients uh tell me that they are not coming to the hospital, they're scared.
So there's implications that are broad um and far reaching.
Uh people are sicker.
Uh they're coming in and they're dying because they they did not want to come to the hospital.
They're coming to area the ICE uh kidnappers are coming to um areas that are supposed to be safe for us.
Um we want to take care of our patients, and um and now people are um sicker, they're not coming in.
Our census has been down.
Even the hospital has um indicated that this is the case.
Um and um, yeah, so that's that's as a nurse uh it's it's a solidarity, right?
They're coming after people, but it we're the way that we're going to to win and we're organizing um community patrols uh and and fighting back is through solidarity um for all people and and it's my duty uh and I'm very honored uh to be here with Union del Barrio and other organizations to organize.
And like I said, we're growing.
Uh we encourage people to join the community self-defense coalition and other organizations.
Amanda, we're gonna have to leave it there.
Amanda Trevach is an ICU nurse, a member of Union del Barrio.
Uh, she was detained by ICE for a day, uh, violently detained.
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Davis said you need to concentrate on the Indian culture that you know and love.
She really saw it as much her as a responsibility as a job to tell the truth and let people know because just as we know from most of the history books, the true picture of Native Americans is very seldom found in old older publication.
And it's not that they intended to uh mislead people, but any author, I don't care who they are.
If they write something, everything they write is filtered through their own value system, and what they see and observe is going to be different from what a native would observe.
I think Teada had the great advantage of growing up in Oklahoma.
And if we look at Oklahoma today, arguably, except for the state of California, there isn't a larger native population anywhere.
And the difference between California and Oklahoma is here in Oklahoma because of the removal policies and the policies that brought diverse tribes here to the state.
All of a sudden, there's lots of cultural communities, many of them are different, and that's where she's growing up.
It is ground zero, and it's a place where where the energy is there, the focus is there, the culture is certainly there.
Teyata later joined the Chautauqua Circuit, a traveling performance group.
She spent several summers traveling with fellow entertainers to provide arts education to rural areas of the country.
When Teyata joined the Chautauqua and went out into the communities, it was probably the first time that some of these people had even seen an Indian person.
And so she was quite popular on that circuit.
And she loved it.
She loved traveling and meeting new people and having the opportunity to tell her stories in this venue.
One of my numbers was the hunting dance.
In it, I was an Indian hunter tracking game in the forest with bow and arrow, locating one.
I followed it very carefully.
I followed that trail to the river.
There I crossed the river, paddling a canoe, picked up the trail again, sighted the deer, took aim and shot it.
Aiming my arrow off stage.
When she would finish, there would be little groups of Indians that would come up and uh sometimes be backstage or would come and want her to come home to dinner with them and sort of look after her.
She said, I felt like I had an extended family all across America.
And as I talked to them and got to know them, how important it was for them that people see Native Americans in a positive light, that they understand the contributions that Native Americans had made uh to our country, how long they had been here, uh, you know, their diversity, uh, their complexity.
Entertainment such as movies and wild west shows had painted sensationalized caricatures of Native Americans and their culture.
And Teata was determined to change these false perceptions.
And so that's what people wanted to see when they came to the Wild West shows.
Teata, on the other hand, she did her research into what these people actually dressed as, how they spoke, their stories, the way they behaved, ported themselves, et cetera, et cetera.
That to me is extremely important.
The show Indian, I think, probably became, for lack of a better word, the accepted native that most of those individuals in the early 20th century wanted to see.
They had to wear buckskins, they had to wear beads.
Americans began to romanticize about the plains tribes and they began to to enjoy the bonnets of which they wore.
I once did an experiment in a classroom.
I asked young people to draw a native for me.
And they drew this kind of crude stick figures, but every one of them put headdresses on them, and this isn't the 21st century, and every one of them drew a male.
In 1919, Teata began as a student at the theater school at Carnegie Tech in Pittsburgh.
Although she attended for a short time, it was there that she gained a sense of confidence and learned the ins and outs of theater production.
During the early 1920s, Teata was teaching at Oklahoma College for Women, but soon set her sights on New York City.
She explains in her memoir, her unpublished memoir, that it was quite a culture shock for her to hit the streets of New York City for the very first time.
And just the people and the you know, hustle and bustle of traffic and and all of that, that's um, it was really quite overwhelming for her.
A young woman from a very small town in Oklahoma to suddenly be there in one of the biggest cities in the world.
When I think about how far the distance is from Emmett, Oklahoma, you know, to New York City, for an unaccompanied young Indian girl, her family wasn't with her, and to move on to the stage and become, you know, a noted performer and a social figure.
Uh, you know, I I think I don't think I could I could cover that, uh, that distance, that social distance, a geographic difference, distance, that cultural distance.
Well, in the city, Teyata lived among the other up and coming artists at the three arts club.
The three arts club was sponsored by aristocratic women, one of whom was Eleanor Roosevelt.
Teada and the future First Lady would form a bond that would span many years.
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Dear Princess Teata, thank you so much for your kind note of congratulations and good wishes, which both my husband and I deeply appreciate.
I hope sometime that it will be possible for you to come to the White House after we are settled there, with all good wishes.
I am very sincerely yours, Eleanor Roosevelt.
It appears um Eleanor was very taken with Teada, and just really took a liking to um the idea that native culture is somehow being preserved through this young woman, that she is in the face of really federal Indian policy trying to discourage the practice of Native American culture and traditions, that she would be out there doing this regardless.
Mrs.
Roosevelt was very much impressed with that and with her her demeanor and her ability to command a room.
Teata quickly became known for sharing her culture and appeared on Broadway in Trojan Women and in the 1922 New York production of the Red Poppy, starring Bella Legosi.
In 1924, she appeared on the cover of McCall's magazine.
Her likeness was drawn by celebrity illustrator and poster artist Nasa McMaine.
While she undoubtedly appreciated the exposure, she was reluctant to wear the war bonnet and makeup provided for her for fear that she would be playing into the false representations of Native Americans that were so popular of the day.
And she was so afraid that seeing her in a uh war bonnet would disturb all the elders, and the elders would be very upset with her.
As they drove into town, every store window had a copy of that magazine.
In the front window, and that told her we accept it the way it is, and we understand.
Teata continued her mission to interpret the multifaceted nature of Native Americans to audiences of all races, making a living doing so despite the federal government's efforts to dissolve Indian culture.
I have wanted, if possible, to bring about a deeper understanding of the spiritual and aesthetic values to be found in our culture.
I have tried to mold our folklore into an art form through the use of speech, song, dance movements, and genuine and beautiful costumes.
I have tried to show something of our philosophy of life, of our closeness to our mother, the earth, to show our desire for harmony with nature.
Our heritage is rich, and everything in nature has a story of its own.
The oral tradition means a lot to our people.
It's not just something written down in a book that you can just store away someplace and forget about.
The oral tradition is a contact between people that is most important to keep the stories alive and out there and fresh in everybody's memory.
You can see the twinkle in her eyes when she'd tell these stories, but they were always done in a beautiful way.
It was almost like watching a ballet to watch her give her programs.
It was just breathtaking.
As was typical in the day, Teyada would often perform as a pan-Indian and dress in the stereotypical costume.
However, she ensured that her performances showed depth and conveyed an accurate understanding of the culture.
Sometimes historians and others have seen these performances of individuals like Tayata, where she takes these traditions from communities all over the country as demonstrating a lack of cultural knowledge on her part, or on the part of others who were also doing this, as a demonstration that she was kind of creating this pan-Indian persona that defied her identity as a Chickasaw person.
Nothing really could be further from the truth.
Now, on top of that, on top of her identity as a Chickasaw person, she also responded to this larger um set of notions and ideas that had populated popular culture regarding Indian-ness, what it meant to be Indian and what non-Indian people expected when they would encounter Indian people.
Her Chickasaw roots was really important to Teata.
She did that through maintaining ties to the community there.
And you have to also understand that during that time period it was Great Depression at the height of what she was doing.
And things were really tough back home.
It was tough on everyone, but it was especially tough for Indian people.
After discontinuing her performances on Broadway for personal reasons, including a lack of roles for women, Teada banded with other Native American celebrities, many of whom hailed from her native state of Oklahoma.
This group included Jim Thorpe, muralist and scholar AC Blue Eagle, quapa violinist Fred Cardin, and her cousin Atheloa.
These performers not only entertained, but also served as activists to raise awareness of the current flaws in federal Indian policy.
Now, when we begin to look more closely at the lives of these individuals, which is something that historians really have not really begun to do until very recently.
And when you see that, then you can really begin to see how all of their efforts, their various efforts of the different things that they do are beginning to really serve similar inner tribal purposes.
At one point, Teata was advised by a colleague from Chautauqua to focus on sharing her knowledge with youth instead of older society women.
This inspired her to concentrate her energies toward educational storytelling.
She used to always say she loved performing for children the most, and she did quite a bit of travel and uh would do school programs and uh she made a point of doing those, even when she had other engagements because she thought it was so important that young people uh particularly non-native young people have the opportunity to be educated and exposed to Native American culture and traditions and stories when she was in regalia.
I mean, they were it was like they were seeing history come alive to them.
If I perform four children.
I think I I can turn a lot of them into lifelong students and uh admirers of Native Americans.
They have a longer time horizon to be impacted than adults do.
From a very early age, Teyata acquired a deep love for nature.
So working with inner city youth in Bear Mountain, New York during the depression served as an opportunity to get closer to the land as well as share her stories with younger people.
I would begin, and soon a hush would fall over the group.
I would let my fingers wander over the taut skin of my drum, and gradually set up a thudding rhythmic background for a song.
By this time, I had eliminated most non-Indian elements from my program, including piano music.
I found the traditional drums most satisfactory for setting a mood.
Elinor Roosevelt, appreciative of Teata's previous performances for the underprivileged children at Bear Mountain, would later name a lake in her honor near the camps.
Also named in her honor was Camp Teata, a beautiful location in Harriman, New York, where thousands of girl scouts spent their summers.
Teata's performances had grown increasingly spiritual, incorporating both her Christian upbringing as well as nature-based spirituality.
She would tell you religious stories or talk about the great spirit or that sort of thing.
It wasn't just uh, you know, it's exactly this way.
She somehow managed to combine lots of different things into her spiritual view of the world.
I think she incorporated a lot of different spiritual beliefs and traditions into developing her own.
For example, at my naming ceremony, which we had in her apartment.
Uh, she started by praying to the north, praying to the south, east, the west, in each direction, a very non-Christian thing, but very much a native thing.
Teata spent a considerable amount of time at Loon Island in New Hampshire, which was very much a second home.
Here she found an oasis by spending time alone and getting away from the city to recharge in the quiet of nature.
Loon Island belonged to a good friend of hers.
It was an island out in the middle of a lake, and you couldn't get there except by canoe.
And uh there was something about that whole process that really spoke to her.
But it was to become the place where she recharged her batteries.
When living in the city got to her or drained her of her energy, she uh could escape to Loon Island and be with nature.
The trees were getting full grown.
He made them all to come fast because he was in a hurry to make the world productive and beautiful.
The trees all had these beautiful little green dresses.
The little leaves would flutter and dance and sing, and this made the mother happy.
Teata's life changed in 1932 when she met Dr.
Clyde Fisher, curator for the American Museum of Natural History and founding director of the museum's Hayden Planetarium.
Despite being many years her senior, the couple bonded instantly over their shared interests and quickly became a part of New York society.
Teata and Clyde Fisher married within a year of the meeting.
Their wedding took place
Discussion Breakdown
Summary
Oakland City Council Meeting 2025-08-19
The meeting began with an introduction and a presentation about the Crucible, a nonprofit organization providing arts and industrial arts education in West Oakland. Mike Brown, a young volunteer and committee member, shared his experiences and the impact of the Crucible on his life. Various instructors and members of the Crucible discussed their programs and the importance of preserving industrial arts.
Oakland Police Commission Update
- OPD reported on staffing, with 651 sworn officers filled out of 678 authorized positions.
- IAB cases and other departmental statistics were discussed.
- Commissioner questions focused on IAB case numbers, community policing, and interactions with ICE.
Public Comments & Testimony
- Concerns were raised about OPD's budget, community policing, and the NSA reform implementation.
- Speakers expressed the need for written policies on OPD's interaction with ICE.
CIPRA Report
- CIPRA reported on their caseload, hiring progress, and transitioning IAB responsibilities.
- The commission discussed sustained cases and administrative leave.
Ad Hoc Committee Updates
- Various ad hoc committees reported on their activities and future plans.
Key Outcomes
- The commission discussed future agenda items, including a community meeting on September 11th.
The meeting adjourned after discussing various agenda items and hearing public comments.
Meeting Transcript
It's someone who lives just down the street from us and he started off as being someone who was in our bicycle fix-athon getting his bicycle fixed and just sort of kept coming back almost every day asking what else is going on and so eventually we have him in a work study program now. I am pleased to introduce our VIP speaker Mike Brown, who is a dedicated volunteer and one of our youngest committee members. Mike lives across the street from the Crucible and goes to Lowell Middle School where he's an eighth grader. Mike supports our expanding bike program and works in the studio three days a week. As Mike will discuss, the Crucible classes offer more than skills. They've taught him to be brave and to be mature. Mike is the newest generation of artists to enrich our community, and I am so pleased to introduce him. Please welcome Mike Brown. What I like about the Crucible is that you get hands-on work with power tools in classes and you get to meet new friends. You get to learn from the crucibles, such as how to control fire, maturity, because if you're playing around flames that are uh 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit and higher, you can hurt yourself or someone else. In many ways, we're a growing program, and so we look at Mike Brown as a template for how we'll continue to grow the program. And I really see the youth program as a continuum of services throughout a young person's time. And so what's really exciting about Mike Brown is that we've seen the integration of young people into these classes and and really being excited about these classes. I've taken jewelry, I've taken wood, I've taken wood shop, um, I've taken three ARC welding classes, I've done two blacksmithing classes, I've done NIG welding, TIG welding, I've done the bike shop, I've done neon, flash flame working and glass fusion. But he's proud of himself, you know, coming here and learning things that seem dangerous, flames and hot furnaces, you know, blacksmithing and that kind of stuff, it's really intimidating when you're a kid. But when you master it, you know, uh, you feel a lot more confident um that you can pretty much find anything difficult. Just overcome your fears because there are people around you who are gonna keep you safe, make sure nothing happens, create a good environment for you. And then he's he's just this awesome, awesome guy now. Mom, if you think that it's a really good thing that I come here because like you learn new traits and everything, so like if you go out in the world, it's like you can you know get a really good job paying, you know, good money. And if somebody enjoyed it's like whenever I enjoy it sending my mom, she's always right behind me. To see uh Mike Brown with young people serving as an example and and being a young role model is just it's just really exciting and and it makes me really passionate about developing this program to make sure we continue to keep Mike Brown engaged when he's 16 and when he's 17 and then when we finally move him on to the adult program. If I wasn't working here at the crucible, I would probably be living with my dad in San Jose because it's like I enjoy living in Oakland with my mom. It's just that it's kind of dangerous because a lot of shooting and drug dealing and everything. Right now, if you look at the situation in West Oakland, twelve to seventeen-year-olds are really committing some of the most violent crimes, and I think what the crucible offers is an alternative to those things, and and maybe they're not the ones perpetuating it, but maybe they're the ones that are victimized by that. And so we just offer them a place where they can learn a skill, have some fun, and walk away with a new bike or maybe a new pendant or maybe a a letter opener from blacksmithing, so it's exciting, it's good. It's just good to know that you provide safe and alternative education. Seeing the the youth that comes in the door to create something, whether it's a pair of earrings or a pair of a bracelet or just hammering, just getting out the maybe their frustrations by doing things. I think it for the community it's just a play another place for people to be expressive in a very positive way. I would recommend this to other people because um it's fun and it's educational and it's uh it's a good experience because like you get to do things that you really don't really get to do with normally in life. Like, um, do you normally ever see a 12-year-old or anything holding a blowtorch or anything like that? The crucibles, I mean, a wonderful opportunity for people to see this type of artwork. For me, it's a great way to become a part of a community where people kind of understand the more industrial types of art. A lot of the arts have kind of moved away from this kind of um kind of work where it's down and dirty and like fire and hammers, and for me, it's what really gets me going. And so it's real exciting to be in a place like this. Often I think people don't see a lot of beauty in the things that they pick up, touch, hold, move every day, until they you know step back and see something that's actually been hand created. So many people are used to the idea of things in their environment coming from the store, and not having any idea of where they come from, what the processes are that were to make them. And so just to be exposed to that is it's an eye-opening experience, and it could just change your life like it did mine. Wood is one of the most basic materials. Uh traditionally, you know, it wouldn't take more than a handful of tools to do most furniture, and it was expected, it was even commonplace that every man would know how to do repairs around the home or uh perhaps build smaller, more simple pieces of furniture. It is sadly uh a uh part of uh our society that has uh quieted down quite a bit. I would argue that blacksmithing's not a dying art form. Um, and in fact, there's been more of a resurgence of um blacksmithing in the last 20 years in this country. Um, but there's a lot of new forms and a lot of new um uh a new visual and new aesthetic for blacksmithing that's more contemporary. Um it's harder, it's hard to make a living as a blacksmith because of um commercial production. Neon is kind of falling into the category of a lost art in that you simply can't pay Americans enough to do it. A lot of the neon that you find mass produced in places like a Walmart or a Target or something like that is made in China where the neon workers are paid maybe 15 or 20 cents a piece and doing well at that. Uh neon vendor here in the US can do I think probably fifteen dollars an hour is what it comes out to, which is not really very high pay for a for a good skill. So, in that sense, it is kind of a dying art. For the most part, I believe the education is going towards the three Rs of reading, writing, and arithmetic, and the trades are being pushed off on to other places. Machine shops are all going the way of computers, but to know how to calculate and machine something so precisely that um it fits another machined object perfectly is is it is kind of a lost art.