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Good morning, and welcome to the Public Works and Transportation Committee meeting of today, Tuesday, October the 14th.
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The time is now eleven thirty a.m.
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This meeting has come to order.
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Before taking roll, I provide instructions on how to submit a speaker's card for items on this agenda.
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If you're here with us in chambers and you would like to submit a speaker cards, please fill one out and turn into my cell before the item is read into record.
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Speaker requests were the meeting came to order at eleven thirty.
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Speaker requests are due ten minutes after the meeting has begun, making that time eleven forty a.m.
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With that, we will now proceed to take roll.
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I don't know if we can come in.
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Councilmember Houston is absent.
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Thank you, and Chair Ungar.
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We have three members present, one absent Houston.
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And we'll before we begin, Chair Unger.
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Do you have any announcements?
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And uh Councilmember Houston is in the room and present.
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Noting Council Member Houston present at eleven thirty-one a.m.
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Moving to item one approval of the draft minutes from the committee meetings held on June 24th, July eighth, July twenty-second, and September thirtieth, twenty twenty-five.
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And you do have two speakers for this item.
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What zero speakers for this item?
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Zero speakers the item.
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All right, let's uh do we have a motion for the minutes.
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Move approval, but I want to hear from the public first.
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I believe there are no speakers.
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We're looking for approval of the minutes.
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So I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.
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We have a motion made by Councilmember Gaio, seconded by Councilmember Houston to accept the draft minutes from the committee meetings held on June 24th, July 8th, July 22nd, and September the thirtieth, as is on roll.
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Councilmember Houston.
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And Councilmember Wong.
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The motion passes with four ayes.
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Two accept the approval of the draft minutes of the committee meetings held on June 24th, July eighth, July 22nd, and September 30th, as is.
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Moving to item two, which is determination schedule and outstanding committee items.
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And this is also known in your pending list, and you do have two speakers for this item.
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Let's do the speaker first, please.
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Moving to our public speakers.
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Want to call your name, please approach the podium, state your name for the record, and you do have two minutes.
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Harpak, excuse me if I mispronounced your last name.
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Excuse me if I mispronounced your last name.
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Oh, the mic, excuse me.
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Yeah, so uh I'm I'm here because I'd like to get a report as to how the city and the city council at large makes the decision to what neighborhoods get parking permits and what neighborhoods do not.
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Now, in particular myself, I live in 15th and Harrison.
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Fife is my representative.
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However, I don't know how long I'm going to be able to support her because my community is getting nothing from this office in the sense of I've lived here three years, I've got six D900 worth of tickets in front of my house, as well as my daughter 2400, and nowhere else in the city.
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Now you told my car because I'm up for uh this towing eligibility.
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I've lost my vehicle.
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I don't have sixty-nine higher.
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They've already taken one of my cars, forced me to get an emergency hearing with the magistrate up at Eastmont.
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I had to appeal to the logic and the goodness of what's right to that magistrate for her to offer me an amnesty program that is apparently here, where I have to give up the car, and the tickets go away.
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All right, so I lost one car that way.
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Now I have another car.
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My daughter lives with me, fixed income combat veteran.
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Everybody lives in my building is Section 8 and this and that.
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The poorest among us, and we have ticket people, like with attitudes, ticketing us every day.
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We can't come down every two hours, and this needs to stop because I've I've I've complained over a year and a half now.
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First time I've come to this part, and I need answers, and I need this to go away because I need my car.
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So that's what I have at this time, but I'd like to speak.
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Are you in the room?
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Can you can you connect with the gentleman and help him connect to the parking division and council member Fife's office?
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Um I would like to see a uh growing problem be dealt with.
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We have throughout the city uh city trash cans.
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These trash cans have been now been identified as places to put illegal dumping.
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So besides the the trend the can being used, the individuals are putting uh pieces of furniture and other illegal dumping at those sites.
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And near my spot, which is Keller and Mountain, they had to remove the city trash can in order to uh discourage the misuse.
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I'm also concerned about the continued effort to get Mr.
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Art Shanks' renaming of the streets uh as indicated by city ordinance actually happening.
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I'm also uh hoping that the encampment policy, the area of the policy that I'm really concerned about is this new dynamic of people who are homeless encamping in front of people's homes, and in front of their homes, you have uh human waste, uh complete uh lack of accessibility to the sidewalk and misuse of the property.
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Uh parking in this garage is a phenomenal effort because it's not enough parking.
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Sometimes, a lot of times they have to close the garage down.
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But they are compact spaces that are being used with large vehicles, which limit sometimes I can't even get in my car because the space is so confined.
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And we need to do something about that.
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Biking lanes throughout the assist city, protective lanes, non-protective lane, how that's determined.
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The double parking in Chinatown is never addressed.
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The late merit parking with the flexibility of schedules.
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How is that working?
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Um could you put my mic on because you see I can speak?
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We are now concentrating on developments, housing developments with no parking.
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Uh the example is High Street in MacArthur, uh, a very good housing space, but little or no parking, and it's being recommended that the former Walgreens on uh high become a new developer with no parking, and this no parking is gonna create tremendous issues.
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We need to address that.
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That concludes your public speakers for item too.
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All right, do we have anything from staff or other council members for the pending list?
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Yes, um, what what I'd like to do is have our our uh directors of public works uh bring back the item of uh uh replacing or or um having more vehicles available for our employees to do the work.
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I know that they've come here before asking for more support, financial support to buy more trucks and other service vehicles, and I like to see that item come back to see what the city can do to make sure that our employees have the opportunity and this and the tools necessary to get the work done.
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And um, I know we have an item about mechanics repairing vehicles, but if you go down to the public works yard on uh Coliseum Way or in Edgewater, you're gonna see many old old vehicles from police vehicles and city vehicles that need to be repaired or replaced.
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And I like to see that item come back to the council.
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Uh please bring that through rules committee and schedule if you'd like a report.
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Um, yeah, I would like to also have something scheduled just on illegal dumping.
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I I think we've had some good conversations in closed session, but I also think depending on what our director of public works is uh willing to share.
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I think there's some important things that we've learned that the public also deserves to know, and some recent reporting too.
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Uh, please bring that through the rules committee if you'd like an official report.
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Do we have a motion to move the pending list?
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Motion made by Councilmember Gaio, seconded by Councilmember Wong to accept the termination of schedule outstanding committee items as is on roll.
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Councilmember Guyo.
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I will let you in the queue.
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Councilmember Houston.
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And Councilmember Wong.
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The motion passes with four eyes to accept the termination of schedule and outstanding committee items as is moving to item three.
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Adopt a resolution awarding a contract to the WW Williams Company LLC to the sole responsive and responsible offer obtained by the open market per OMC to 04050J, the formal call for the business specification.
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Number 259280 to provide Allison transmission, part-term repairs and amount not to exceed $750,000 per year for a five-year term.
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Number 15, 25 to November 15, 2030, to the total amount not to exceed 3,750,000 over a five-year term, and to waiving the local and small local business enterprise program utilization requirement, and three making appropriate California Environmental Quality Act findings.
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And you do have one speaker for this item.
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All right, why don't we hear from uh our public speaker first?
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Moving to our public.
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If you're not ready, we can hear from staff first.
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Okay, let's hear from staff first.
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Thank you, Chair Unger, Council members, Richard Battersby, Assistant Director Oakland Public Works.
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Before you today, we have a request to approve a contract with WW Williams in the amount of $750,000 for five years, not to exceed $3,750,000, and to waive the local business, local small business, enterprise program utilization requirement.
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WW Williams performs repair and maintenance and parts sourcing for Allison Heavy Duty Transmissions.
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This is a specialized component.
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It's pretty much the standard in the industry for heavy-duty vehicles, including fire apparatuses.
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And we have about 100 vehicles in the city fleet that use these Allison transmissions.
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We're frequently forced to outsource repairs because we don't have the internal capacity or we may lack the expertise to perform these specialized repairs on transmissions.
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And lately the equipment services is running about 60% staffing, so we've been seeing an increase in outsourcing due to just simply not having the individuals on the shop floor to perform it.
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We've uh requested a contract in the amount of $750,000.
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We don't expect to hit that uh cap, but we wanted to request extra funding, so we would not have to come back to council to increase the contract if we did exceed a lower capacity, and then we had pending repairs, emergency repairs to fire apparatuses.
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Uh we made extensive outreach efforts uh to get local small business participation uh in addition to the standard advertising venues.
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We reached out specifically to four local and seven non-local uh vendors that we thought would be interested in bidding on the RFQ.
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We didn't get any responses to the initial RFQ, but then the buyer went out and directly negotiated.
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We did get one responsive bid, and that was WW Williams.
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They are somewhat local, they're look located in Hayward, which is good.
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We'd love to have uh an Oakland-based vendor provide these services, but despite our best efforts, we were unsuccessful.
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So we are here uh to request approval of this contract as a uh necessary function to keep the city's fleet operational and on the fleet, including fire apparatuses, and I'm here available for any questions, council member Houston.
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Good morning, good morning to the chair.
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Nice talking to you in the elevator about the weather.
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Is this their first time getting the contract?
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And if so, who do we use prior to this?
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Just ask answer that question first through the chair.
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Uh through the chair, I'm not a hundred percent certain.
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I believe we've used this vendor previously, um, but I'd have to confirm that and get back to you.
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Okay, yeah, I need to know those type of um questions because um if they've had this contract, and this is for five years, correct?
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Through the chair, that's correct.
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Whoever had it prior, and you said we haven't been able to find anyone that has the capacity.
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And what triggers me is when we always waive in this the small local business.
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Why don't we build the capacity?
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I mean, if somebody had this, have we ever okay?
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I'm asking another through a question through the chair.
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How long have we been needing this service?
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Through the chair, uh, I've been here 11 years.
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Allison transmissions been the industry standard, but 30 years I've been in the industry, so I suspect the need's been there for 30 years, and there may be some um proprietary aspects that uh as far as parts and being a servicing uh dealer or vendor, but I'm looking at the list of uh companies that we reached out to that doesn't appear to be uh a dealership or licensing issue.
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Okay, through the chair, and this is where um it's called building capacity, and this is not to you, this is just open to everyone.
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It's called building capacity.
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When I was on the other side, and this is through the chair and the whole everyone in here, when I was on the other side as just a regular person before I was elected, 25 years ago, we've been saying the same thing.
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We don't have the contractors, we don't have the skill sets.
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When is enough enough?
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It it it it disturbs me, it troubles me when I have children in the street that could build skill sets that need embracement, that need fatherless like I was, right?
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That need those individuals or need those skill sets.
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Thirty years we've been going outside and not building the capacity, and this is not to you, this is to the whole city of Oakland, this is to the machine.
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We gotta stop waving.
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Small local, if we're gonna continue to wave it.
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It makes no sense, and and my cousin Daryl Carried that passed away.
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He said, if you're not angry now, when will you get angry?
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So I'm gonna say this it's not to you, it's not to you.
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I just have to express it, put it on the record, because I'm gonna take it to higher level, to a very higher level because I'm tired of my Latino brothers and sisters dying.
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I'm tired of my black brothers and sisters dying on the street when we're sending millions and millions of dollars outside of our city to Hayward, to Concord, to Chicago.
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So, in closing, thank you for your service.
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I just had to share that and put it on the record.
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If I may, through the chair, uh Councilmember Houston, I couldn't agree with you more.
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Um, I wish there was more I could do in my role to expand and increase uh small business participation, skills training in this particular aspect in our industry.
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Um I think the local small business is applicable uh for larger projects, construction, um, some of the maintenance of repair around facilities where you might sub out a crew, but it's very unusual in the automotive repair industry to have that sub-opportunity that would allow us to bring in more participation from local small business.
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And I I would point out that something like Allison transmission repair requires a significant investment, not just for inventory and training and all that, but the heavy duty vehicles that um these Allison transmissions are in require a larger repair facility.
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And unfortunately, the nature of the industry has been such that with the property values going up, these larger automotive and vehicle repair facilities end up being utilized for other sources or other uh activities.
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So we're seeing a dwindling amount of vendors that can provide the service and a high cost to buy in to get into the industry.
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But if there's anything that the city can do, I mean we're happy to do it.
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We try to uh train youth, we try to bring up uh service workers, the technicians to learn how to work on these things.
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Um, and I would as much as I hate losing staff, I would love to see some of our employees go out into Oakland and start this local small business.
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So council member Houston, let's work together if you have ideas.
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If I have an idea, let's let's continue this outside of the public works and transportation committee.
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Councilmember Houston, you continuing?
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Can we switch the mic so he can continue?
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I thought I think you were gonna follow up.
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So I'm you know, I understand what you're saying, but it's not about what you say, it's what you do.
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Look, look, Oakland's been going through many challenges.
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We sit here talk, complaining.
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At the end of the day, it's up to this council.
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All right, you've been in the cleaning business for years, you've seen it.
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You're still doing it.
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You're just still short.
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I mean, you get large contracts from the state and the city and all that other stuff.
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Okay, you've been at this for a while.
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But what I'm trying to, it's an example public works has been here a number of times asking for more vehicles to get the work done in the neighborhood.
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And the reality is we had budgeted 10 mechanics, but they were never hired previously in the previous years.
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And we're short of mechanics because, you know, I know some of the mechanics, and they're retiring, they're getting out of Oakland.
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They're leaving like the police, they're leaving Oakland, so forth.
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So he's short of mechanics.
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Go buy and visit his yard in Itchwater.
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You're going to see all the vehicles sitting there that need to be serviced and replaced, right?
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From the police to the fire to public works.
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Then you go to the Coliseum at the other end that I see daily, trucks have been sitting there for a long time, that we can be using to have a clean city.
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So the bottom line for me is the administration and this council, we need to be able to award the contract to get the vehicles repaired.
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Otherwise, we're going to be sitting here complaining every day about well, the trash didn't get picked up.
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Somebody's camped in front of my house.
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Nobody comes to see it.
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And then I got homeless from San Jose and San Francisco coming in by the roads.
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I see them every morning.
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And yet, where's Oakland at?
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Well, we're sitting talking to each other, complaining.
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Alright, and you see it, I mean, look at the I'm on top of Caltrance right now, but but the bottom line, we I'm gonna make a motion to support this item.
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We need to get those vehicles repaired so our employees can get out there and do the job that they were hired to do.
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Because certainly uh, you know, we can work on the longer scope in terms of identifying other local um vendors that can provide the service.
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But right now we have an emergency in this city, and we need to get the city back in an order like it used to be growing up here in Oakland that we can attract people and and um support our children and families because right now that's becoming a norm.
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Our kids grew up seeing that trash on the street in front of them.
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That's oh, it's like when I grew up here killing each other became a norm.
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Oh, you didn't kill each other 150 this year?
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And so it was for us, it's a norm having 140 plus murders every year.
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And growing up here in Oakland and East Oakland.
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So I think you know, we need to get the vehicles repaired back on the street, get the job done, make sure that this city's an attractive location, and uh so I make a motion to approve staff's recommendation to get our vehicles repaired so we can use them.
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If not, they're just sitting in the yard waiting for someone to get it done.
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We just we need to get the work done.
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Um I want to thank Councilmember Geyer for showing me around that yard a couple months ago.
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Um I think my question is if we approve this, should we see actually an increase in service delivery from the public works department?
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Or is this maintaining the level of service we have now?
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Yeah, through the chair, this is just to maintain the current level of service.
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If the contract's not approved, you can expect the service to actually decline until we find another option.
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So, how do we improve things?
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What are your thoughts on that?
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Through the chair, uh, first thing we do is uh fill the vacancies of the actual uh folks that do the work, the technicians, mechanics, and service workers.
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Uh, the second thing is probably a longer term strategy, but it's equally as important.
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We have to start decreasing the age of the city fleet, and the only way we can do that is through regular replacements.
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Um, since July 2023, when fleet replacement was decentralized, we've only purchased five replacement vehicles, and four of those were through the sewer division, which is an enterprise fund.
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So the existing vehicles are getting older, they're breaking down more frequently, and we're finding that parts are becoming unavailable.
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We've got over 12 Ford Crown Victoria's uh in OPD active use patrol vehicles.
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That Crown Victoria platform was discontinued in 2013.
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We're having difficulty finding parts.
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So we need to make a decision now to regularly replace these vehicles as they age, or this problem will continue to get worse even if we fill every vacant mechanic position.
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Thank you for articulating that.
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And then around the specific contract, um, do you from your perspective?
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Why did we only get one bidder for this?
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Uh, through the chair, we get a variety of reasons from vendors.
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Um, the city's has a reputation for being slow to pay uh registering to do business with the city is sometimes an onerous undertaking, especially for small businesses.
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Um lately we've been hearing from vendors that the insurance requirements are much more stringent in Oakland than they are with other municipalities they do business for.
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And frankly, um the maybe the most important factor is vendors have a choice now.
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Um they pretty much have all the work that they can manage, so they can pick and choose who their customers are.
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So municipalities, it's not just Oakland.
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Municipalities end up lower on the list because private industry uh pays better and they turn around.
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They they need the vehicles turned around uh immediately.
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I'm thinking like UPS, FedEx.
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We compete with them for external vendors, and we're having a tough time as are other municipalities.
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Um my concern when we have only one vendor is are we holding how are we holding this vendor if we do move forward with this to account?
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Like, do we have like a performance standard that we're expecting of them?
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Like this many vehicles are going to get repaired, like, do we have a do we have it written out that what the expectations are?
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Yeah, uh, through the chair, we we don't have that type of performance metric.
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Um we do monitor vehicles as they're out of service and we keep track how long they're at the vendors, and we do try to encourage them to turn around vehicles quickly.
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And just to clarify, this this although this vendor specializes in transmission repair, specifically Allison transmission, we have multiple other vendors that we can send heavy equipment to who perhaps can perform work on Allison, but it's not their primary specialty.
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So we have other vendors that we can rely on.
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These these uh WW Williams won't be the only vendor that we're sending heavy duty vehicles to, but they will probably be our primary Allison transmission related uh repair or maintenance vendor.
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Okay, I I would just um request, if I may, that we we find ways to just because this is taxpayer money that we're holding our contractors accountable to to performance standards, and but otherwise I I second the motion because um, as well stated, we need to get the work done.
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Councilmember Houston.
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Yes, uh I'm not sure if my my statement got misunderstood or not, but I wasn't stating that we're trying to hold back this contract.
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What I'm stating is that we have to add certain things and elements to contracts like mentorship.
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If we had mentorship 30 years ago with individuals knowing how to fix these transmissions and this equipment, exactly what council member Noel Gayo said was those individuals could be in the yard fixing them now.
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That's what I'm saying, right?
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And when we talk about uh mentoring individuals, yes, I mentored individuals, a mentored uh the young man that has million-dollar contracts with the city that now with plumbing, doing plumbing, that's mentoring other individuals.
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I mentored a guy that was six years old, now he has a contract.
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He's 30 something years old now has contracts with Oakland Unified School District, did part of Fremont High, right?
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So I know it can be done from my personal experience, and I'm not saying that we not not to actually um give this individual this company the contract.
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What I'm saying is let's think outside the box.
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Let's think long range.
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What in that contract says that they they can mentor some young men or young women in our city?
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So five years from now, they can fix those vehicles in the yard that Councilmember Noel just spoke about and Councilmember Wang spoke about where they don't have to go outside, or some of them can be repaired.
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I'm talking about long range, think long range, and this is not to you.
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This is just for the record, right?
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We have to give back to the city that we work for, right?
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And that's all that I like to share.
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Okay, we've got a motion and a second.
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Let's go to our public speaker, unless anyone else has anything.
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Calling in our public speaker for item three, Mr.
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Related specifically to this item.
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Uh, did anybody ask for the source of funding for this?
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You have to ask that question.
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This is a couple of million dollars.
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Related to uh the 700,000 per year estimate.
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How many vehicles would be covered under that 700?
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How many transmissions could be repaired?
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And is that sufficient to actually cover what potentially has been the need for repairs?
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So are we dealing with partial repair or totally dealing with everything?
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Now, related to the discussion you just had, you need to get with OUSD.
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OUSD's career pathway is college.
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They are not preparing these young people for non-cook college careers, except at Fremont, there is some initiative around construction.
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At McClyman's, they are the career pathway is engineering.
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You have to have calculus to do engineering, and most of our students, uh 80% of them are reading uh two or three grade levels below.
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The average young person graduating from college today doesn't make as much money as an electrician or a plumber.
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They're making more money, and we are not preparing young people for those jobs.
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So you need to get with OUSD and have them rethink their career pathway initiative to include some of these jobs like plumbing the electricians, auto mechanics.
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We used to have all of those things.
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And now we've left it.
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So uh with your partnership meeting, maybe you could put it on the agenda to discuss that, but we cannot just have a discussion.
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We got to change the whole dynamics of how the system is working to create jobs, and let's thank you for your comment, Mr.
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We have a motion made by Councilmember Gallo, seconded by Councilmember Wong to approve the recommendations of staff and the forward this item to the October 21st, city council agenda on consent.
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On roll, Councilmember Guyo.
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Councilmember Houston.
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I councilmember Wang.
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The motion passes with four ayes to approve the recommendations of staff and to forward this item to the October 21st.
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City Council agenda on consent moving to open forum.
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Want to call your name?
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Please approach the podium.
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You do have three speakers.
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Thanks for having me back.
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But uh first of all, I'd like to thank uh city administrator for taking the time to look into my issue.
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Uh because it's uh it's unattainable for myself and and my neighborhood.
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Um, but but I'd also like to know what is the protocol coming from Mr.
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Ford's office to the employees that are these ticket agents and the attitudes they possess out here on the street.
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They are very confrontational, as if they're ready to go and they're not working.
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They're ready to, they're cursing you.
36:27
I've been cursed out, absolutely and and can someone tell me is it a new policy that ticket people in those uh vehicles that have the yellow lights I thought you drive down the street and you stop at the car that you find uh that that doesn't have a parking ticket or meter and then you give it to them not they're parking around the corner and they're walking up the street like civilians and sticking tickets on cars this seems not right but where I'm concerned and my neighborhood uh well we we need that we need that parking permit situation because people are losing their cars and like I said where I live everybody is uh senior citizen type fixed incomes and they don't have much but that little car they have means a lot to them and you snatch it and then if you do have the money we're going to the Coliseum behind triple beam Constantine wire to these contractors that live in Hayward uh modesto all these places we're giving money to these people for what I really appreciate when uh every now and we get a lot of people who come who don't normally come and I respect that you take the time to go more in depth to uh what their concerns are and I hope there is true follow-up uh I think it's gonna sell well if people in this community come here and get results uh they're gonna have more faith in in the uh system don't worry about me uh I don't care if you listen to me or not I'm gonna keep coming um I am concerned about the um encampment policy I think the encampment policy uh came from the government governor of California calling for each city to look at their policy with encampments and to upgrade or do something to make sure that we could make our communities better and the the notion that if you put a policy in place it's an attack on homeless people it's uh it's an effort to create public safety and health uh safety in your city and it's not an attack on anybody it's a necessity that we do what is necessary to keep this city viable for everyone including our homeless community they they uh they might not even realize the situation they're in when they're living in such deplorable conditions but again I want to repeat myself we have a dynamic of people who are encamping on in front of people's homes remember the lady that came who talked about having to leave her house because she she says this was a person who was living uh in the home but the safety and the health and the schools we're dealing with it the illegal dumping we're dealing with it okay the churches at Saint Benedict we're dealing with it so we got to get that policy in the thank you good morning, Steve.
40:38
It's not a real problem.
40:40
I want to a trade school in Detroit.
40:42
One of the largest trade schools in the country.
40:47
What do you know is it was a high school.
40:49
It's a high school and a trade school at the same time.
40:54
It's a 10-story building.
40:57
We'll see blocks here.
40:58
Take three of these blocks one block there.
41:00
And down here, some building two elevators.
41:03
And people train them so we can go to work.
41:07
You can go to work in your own city.
41:09
They gotta leave these city to go to work.
40:59
What they did was got a reference when you want the poor blacks to get your job to stay in the city.
41:16
So they cut down your program to get rid of us.
41:19
And when you walk around your gate, you get bored lonely, they gotta do.
41:23
I don't mind, get you in trouble.
41:25
That's double workshop.
41:26
So y'all asking for them.
41:28
Get them out the streets.
41:30
Give them some of your do.
41:33
You don't build a house from top down.
41:35
You put a house bottom up.
41:37
This is the whole process.
41:41
What do you complain about?
41:43
You ain't doing nothing about.
41:45
We can do so about you, stop saying about it.
41:46
So the children are getting me eye out.
41:49
And you said they're homeless.
41:51
People are in college.
41:55
They only fix the elevator in college.
41:58
But that's our future.
42:00
We're not putting it in our future, so we don't get nothing back.
42:05
We need to do this.
42:08
It was the program away.
42:10
Man, yellow village.
42:11
That's our project.
42:14
I learned this being a open or housing door.
42:18
All the rest of them.
42:19
But I didn't have no sense for how to check in here.
42:27
It's money on top gotta come down to the bottom.
42:29
You enhanced the bottom of the process.
42:33
So somehow your politicians can get the money and don't get you the bottom.
42:37
So what are we gonna do about this?
42:40
I'm we're gonna y'all.
42:43
That concludes your public speakers for open form.
42:48
Anything from any of my colleagues?
42:51
Councilmember Houston.
42:55
Uh, to respond to the some of our speakers.
42:58
Uh so the pre the the law or the practice here in Oakland, and I've done this a number of times, if not 20 times, if somebody is in your home, squattering in your home, moved into your home, the sheriff department is the is the department that'll come to your home and give notice to whoever's the squatter is, and they give them three days to get out of your home.
43:26
But it's the sheriff's not the police department, it's the sheriff department that'll do that.
43:31
Have the individuals removed.
43:34
Um, but if somebody's parking in front of your driveway, the police immediately will come to deal with that issue.
43:43
Where if, you know, they're down the street or wherever, then the Department of Transportation, right?
43:49
But if they're t is uh if they're ticketing you, is this because of street sweepers coming up?
43:55
No, no parking signs at any time.
43:59
Well, yeah, and yeah.
44:19
So the other what what that what the other activity or the practice that has changed with Department of Transportation is in some of our streets, including mine, we're repainting the red zones.
44:31
And so they're going around reminding you that you can't park in a red zone on front of the bus stop or whatever.
44:39
Then some of us here in my area, they're parking on the sidewalks.
44:43
You can't park on the sidewalks, so the weight of your car destroys the sidewalk, and we have many people that are doing that on Fruville and other streets.
44:52
Um, but I'd I'd be happy to see how we can help you with the issue you have.
45:02
I think I think we're not noticed for a public discussion on parking.
45:05
So if you want to have an offline conversation, that'll be great.
45:13
Councilmember Wong, are you in the queue?
45:21
I think we can adjourn this meeting.