0:10Am I in the wrong meeting?
0:25Am I I'm there, right?
0:36So you already gave us your rule twenty four.
0:37Do you want to you have results?
0:39You don't have to say anything.
0:40As long as you give it to I say give it to us, and we won't have to do all that.
0:46Are we going to ready?
1:08Yeah, you can see me.
1:18Are we waiting for council member five?
1:33Good morning and welcome to the rules and legislation committee meeting on this Thursday, March 12th.
1:39It is now 901, and this meeting shall come to order.
1:43Um and welcome back into my old school original place of business.
1:49Um, at any rate, uh, before I begin with role, I would like to give instructions on how to submit a speaker card.
1:56If you are here participating with us in hearing room one in city hall, first floor, please fill out a speaker card and turn it into a clerk representative or myself before the item is read into record, or no later than 10 minutes after this meeting began, which was um 901.
2:14So that would be 911.
2:16Um if you uh would like to if you uh wanted to register to speak via Zoom, those speaker cards were due 24 hours before this meeting begins, so those will no longer be accepted.
2:28But again, if you're here with us in hearing room one, please fill out a speaker card turn into a clerk representative by 911.
2:35With that, I will now begin with Roll, noting that I will not be able to control your on and off mic, so you guys have full control of that.
2:46Um, with that on roll for this meeting, uh council member Brown.
2:50Present Fife is excused.
2:55Council member Ramachandra.
2:57Aye, and present and uh council president uh chair jenkins present good morning.
3:04We have three present, one excuse, council member Fife.
3:07And um, do you have any announcements before we begin this meeting?
3:11All right, items okay, and moving on to item number two, which is the year is no minutes to approve at this time at this special meeting.
3:20So moving on to item three, which is our new scheduling.
3:24Item 3.1 is a resolution authorizing and directing the city uh attorney to compromise and settle a case of Tom O'Neill and Mabel Page versus the City of Oakland and Municipal Corporation, Nikia M Ward Dose 1 through 50, Alameda County Superior Court case numbers 23 C V 035142 and 23 C V 035146, the city attorney file numbers 35480, 35480-1 in the sum of a hundred thousand dollars in zero cents, department of transportation dangerous conditions of public property on the March 16, 2026 special city council agenda on consent and uh we need a rule 24 reasoning.
4:14Um both items 3.1 and 3.2 are resolutions authorizing um settlements and these routinely go straight to council.
4:23Rule 24 is before both items 3.1 and 3.2.
4:26I will now e-read in item 3.2.
4:293.2 is adopted resolution authorizing and directing the city attorney to compromise and settle a case of filming uh Hagels versus the City of Oakland public entity, the county value meeting the public entity first Presbyterian Church of Oakland, a nonprofit religious corporation in those one through 50, inclusive Alameda County Superior Court case number 23 C V 046388, city attorney file number 36395 in the sum of 250,000 dollars payable to film and hagels and his attorney at Harrison Personal Injury Lawyers, Oakland Department of Transportation Dangerous Conditions to be heard on the March 16, 2026 special city council agenda on consent and uh the city attorney just stated the rule 24 reasoning for that.
5:00City Attorney file number 36395 in the sum of 250,000 payable to Filman Hagels and his attorney at Harrison Personal Injury Lawyers.
5:06Oakland Department of Transportation Dangerous Conditions to be heard on the March 16, 2026 Special City Council agenda on consent and the city attorney just stated the Rule 24 reasoning for that.
5:17Moving on to item 3.3, which is receive an information report on the fiscal year 25 through 26, second quarter Q2 revenues and expenditures are earny results in year-in estimate for the general purpose fund and select funds on the March 24th, 2026 Finance and Management Committee Agenda.
5:39Item 3.4 is a resolution in support of Senate Bill SB 1218 to amend the California Vehicle Code to require payment of resolution of illegal dumping fines before vehicle registration can be completed.
5:52And this is being requested to be scheduled for March 24th, 2026 Public Works and Transportation Committee.
6:00Good afternoon, Council Deputy Chief Staff Mayor Barber Lee.
6:03The mayor is requesting to co-sponsor this item.
6:06She's working closely with Senator Erican on the state bill.
6:15We will be adding Mayor Lee on to item 3.4.
6:19Moving on to item 3.5 is a resolution one honoring Bishop Charles Hames Jr.
6:25for his distinguished services at the 66th Bishop of Christian Methodist Episcopal Church.
6:31His transformational leadership as a senior pastor of BB Memorial Cathedral CME Church in Oakland and his long lifelong commitment to the faith, community service, and social justice, and two commemoratively renaming the intersection of night 39th and Telegraph Avenue as Bishop Charles Hames Jr.
6:50Way and authorizing installation of a commute commemorative plaque or sign honoring Bishop Charles Hames Jr.
6:57Pursuant to policy and procedure established by the Oakland City Council Resolution number 77967 CMS.
7:05And this is being requested to be scheduled for March 24th, 2026 Public Works and Transportation Committee Agenda.
7:12Item 3.6 is an ordinance amending Oakland Municipal Code Chapter 8.1 illegal dumping to one increase penalties illegal dumping to making transport transporting waste in vehicle without a license plate or offenses and to increase enforcement against the leak illegal dumping to be scheduled for the March 24th, 2026 Public Works and Transportation Committee Agenda.
7:40Um behalf of Councilmember Charlene Wong.
7:44Uh she is requesting to be uh named as a co-sponsor on this item.
7:49Have you talked with author?
7:51Have you talked with the author?
7:53Um, I believe she has had some conversations with with the author, yes.
7:57Okay, we'll check in with council member uh hunger.
8:05Moving on to item 3.7.
8:08Item 3.7 is a resolution approving the surveillance impact report and amended surveillance use policy incorporating recommendations of a privacy advisory commission for the um uh airbit's system authorizing the city administrator to negotiate and enter into an agreement with Airbitz Inc.
8:28for a pilot program to detect and report illegal dumping three a waiving the local local small business enterprise program and competitive multi-step technology acquisitions requirements and four directing the city administrator to return within one year of the adoption of this resolution to provide an information report to be scheduled for the March 24th Public Works and Transportation Committee agenda.
8:53Item 3.8 is an ordinance one authorizing the city administrator to negotiate and execute a purchase and sale agreement with 3105 San Pablo LLC to acquire the improved real property located at 3105 San Pablo Avenue in Oakland, California for 3,495,000 and related due diligence and closing costs for redevelopment as Hoover Branch Library and two reallocating 242,000 dollars of measure KK funds for the property acquisition and three adopting California Environmental Quality Act findings, and this is being requested to be scheduled for March 24th, 2026 life enrichment committee agenda.
9:38Hello, uh Councilmember.
9:40This is Jamie Treback, Library Director at Council Member Feist request.
9:43She wanted to be listed as a co-sponsor.
9:50So noted uh to add council member Fife as a co-sponsor item 3.8.
10:00Moving on to item 3.9 is a resolution approving the Oakland Police Department's vehicle GPS tracker surveillance use policy, department of general order 1 through 35-33 or 1 through 33 and surveillance impact report.
10:10This is being requested to be scheduled for March 24th, 2026 Public Safety Committee Agenda.
10:17Item 3.10 is receiving information report from the mayor's charter reform working group.
10:23And this is being requested to be scheduled for March 26th, 20, March 26, 2026 rules and legislation committee agenda.
10:32Item 3.11 is a resolution waiving the request for proposal qualification requirements and awarding a professional services contract to Bayview Industrial Services Inc., also known as Bayview Environmental Service Inc.
10:47to continue providing on-call emergency and non-emergency collection removal and disposable hazardous materials for a one-year term and the amount not to exceed $500,000, with an option to extend the agreement for an additional one year term and an amount not to exceed $500,000 and with and without returning to city council for a total contract amount not to exceed $1 million.
11:12And this is being requested to be scheduled for the April 14th, 2026 special city council agenda on non-consent.
11:20And I will read in the rule 24.
11:22This is requesting for the item to bypass committee to ensure that there is no lapse in service.
11:29Moving on to item 312.
11:31Item 312 is a resolution initi initiating the fiscal year 2026 through 27 assessment process for the City of Oakland Landscaping and Lighting Assessment District and authorizing the city administrator to order a preliminary engineering report.
11:45And this is being requested to be scheduled for March 21st, 2026 Finance and Management Committee Agenda.
11:53Um apologies on the previous item.
11:56It says the April 14th special city council meeting.
11:59Is the ACE April 14th currently listed at a different time?
12:04Please note that the um calendar shows that all items in are all committees or council meetings in April are special due to the um holiday of um spring break, the first week.
12:15So everything has been moved to accommodate the schedule.
12:19So yes, all the meetings in April are special.
12:23I see staff approaching the podium.
12:24Is it regards to item 312 or 312?
12:28Um we are requesting it for April 21st, 2026.
12:35Apologize if did I misspeak and say it says April 21st, 2026.
12:38I think I heard April 14th, and I just wanted to clarify.
12:41My apologies if I did say that.
12:42Yes, this is uh item 312 is being requested to be scheduled for April 21st finance.
12:49All right, and we are now moving to item 313.
12:53Item 313 is a resolution one approving ongoing cooperative purchases agreement exceeding 250,000 for the Oakland Public Works Bureau of Maintenance and Internal Services, Equipment Services Division, Commodity Goods and Services Contracts as outlined in table one and an additional amount not to exceed 16,815,000 and to adopting appropriate California Environmental Quality Act findings, and this is being requested to be scheduled for the special April 21st public works and transportation committee agenda.
13:27Item 314 is an informational report on the status of the city's compliance with municipal regional storm water permit transfer reduction requirements, and this is being requested to be scheduled for the special April 21st, 2026 Public Works and Transportation Committee Agenda.
13:46Item 315 is a resolution one authorizing the city administrator to enter into an agreement within six properties, DBA Alpine Awards Inc.
13:56to provide custom customizable goods and clothing, including athletic casual unified uniform and well weather related apparel for Department of Public Works Recreation and Youth Development Program for an amount not to exceed $500,000 over a five-year term, and to waive the local small, the local business, small business enterprise program requirements.
14:21And this is also being requested to be scheduled for the April, the special April 21st, 2026 Life Enrichment Committee Agenda.
14:29Moving on to item 316, which is a resolution authorizing the city administrator to accept monetary grants, gifts, and donations from the Oakland Parks and Recreation Foundation, OPRF, in the amount not to exceed 10 million dollars through June 30, 2036, to appropriate said funds for the City of Oakland Parks and Recreation Youth Development Department.
14:54Three accept goods in and in kind services for OPRF, valued any amount not to exceed 10 million dollars through June 30th, 2036.
15:04And this is being requested to be scheduled for the special April 21st, 2026 life enrichment committee agenda.
15:10Now moving to the recommendations from committee on March 10th, starting with March, excuse me, starting with um 317.
15:20Receive an information report on measure Q1 Y way.
15:24Oh, excuse me, my apologies.
15:26These are items that were heard in committee.
15:28So I will just be reading the short title and the uh recommendations from committee.
15:32So item 3.17 is an informational report from measure Q, and the committee received and filed this item in committee.
15:41Item 318 is the OPD overtime report.
15:44This item was was received and filed with committee in committee.
15:48Um the committee uh requested an informational report to return um when this uh item comes back in its next quarterly report and the information they requesting that this has a number of personal personnel that are exceeding the specified threshold due to overtime in the next report.
16:10Moving on from recommend moving to recommendations from the uh March 10th public works and transportation committee agenda.
16:18Item 319 is informational report from BART addressing BART's current physical outlook, and the committee received and filed this item.
16:30This is the Oakland Alameda Access Project Diligent Maintenance Delegate Delegated Maintenance Agreement Amendment, and this was withdrawn at committee and scheduled to the pending list no date specific.
16:46So is there somebody from the department here?
16:49I spoke with spoke the chair um public works and I spoke with the department, and we want to put this on the next city council meeting on consent.
17:04Because of the urgency in the project.
17:08So item 3.20, um, the Oakland Alameda Access Project Delegated Maintenance Agreement.
17:14This item is being scheduled for March 16th, City Count Special City Council on Consent.
17:21Moving on to item 3.21.
17:24This was the Affordable Housing and Sustainable Committees Communities Program Cycle 8 and 9.
17:31The committee approved the recommendations of staff and forward this to forward this item to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on consent.
17:39And this consists of both pieces of legislation.
17:44Item 322 was reorganizing or the reorganizing of the parking division.
17:52The committee approved the recommendations of staff and received and forward this item to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on non-consent.
18:04Yeah, the administration would request to move this to the pending list no date specific, and we'll return to schedule it once a supplemental report is ready.
18:13Council Member Brown.
18:14Um thank you so much.
18:15Um through the chair to the administration.
18:18Um my ask on this item is for um it to go to the full council and now back to committee.
18:25We'll work that out.
18:29For clarity, uh, we are pending pending date no date specific, and then I'll work with administration and council member brown's office on uh where it goes after that.
18:40Okay, so the rules pending list no date specific.
18:46We are now moving to the recommendations from the March 10th Community and Economic Development Committee, starting with item 3.23.
18:54This is the lead hazard reduction grant program, and the committee um approved staff recommendations uh to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on consent.
19:10Item 3.24, which was the HCD anti-displacement strategic action plan.
19:17This item was approved.
19:19This uh committee approved staff recommendations to be received and forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on consent.
19:27Item 3.25 was the pro housing incentive pilot program grant application round four, and the committee approved the recommendations of staff to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on consent.
19:41Now moving to recommendation from the March 10th Life Enrichment Committee Agenda.
19:47Item 3.26, the professional services agreement amendment with American Building Services Inc.
19:54The committee approved staff recommendations to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council Agenda on Cent.
20:01Item 3.27, it's the Adwa Fine Arts Services Contract.
20:06The committee approved the recommendations of staff to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council Agenda on Consent.
20:13Item 3.28, the innovative interfaces contract renewal.
20:19The committee approved staff recommendations to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council Agenda on Consent.
20:27Item 3.29, the City of Oakland 2026 homelessness strategic action plan.
20:36The committee approved to receive and forward this item to the March 16th 2026 Special City Council Agenda on Consent with the supplemental that includes Council Member Fife's questions under strategic uh strategy two.
20:50The plan highlights rapid diversion intervention um interventions to expedite stabilization for those who are newly homeless and or low um acuity recommending a pilot a potential pilot.
21:08Can staff explain these interventions and if there is specific recommendations for what the city pilots to under strategy three, the plan points out that 90% of the city is already designated as high sensitivity and suggested a new priority non-camping zone within the high sensitivity areas to establish a data informed framework for assessing and responding to encampments.
21:35Can they expand on this goal of the no camping zones and how it would help with meeting the project um projectives of the plan?
21:45Three on Oak Glitter, the co-manager encampment pilot, and what does this entire entail?
21:54Will this reflect the model and city pilot at third and peralta and at East Lake?
22:02For the plan highlights the need for better collaboration with the county and even assigned roles and responsibilities under each strategy.
22:10Has the county agreed to the roles and responsibilities?
22:13Will there be a push to final or formalize an agreement to facilitate these efforts?
22:20Five, how does the city plan to better identify and coordinate with the county as it permits to service for how unhoused individuals with um addictions and mental health disorders?
22:32And a supplemental report to include questions and concerns from each council member in the 20 February 2025, 25th, 2026 Commission on homeless meetings regarding the county feedback item sorry.
22:52Um the administration would like to request to move this item to the April 28th Special City Council meeting.
23:06So noted that this item that I just read, it is the city of Oakland 2026 homelessness strategic action plan is being now requested to go to April 25th, 28th, excuse me, council on consent or I'm sorry.
23:28Item 3.3 the HAP Winter Relief and Oprah.
23:36The committee approved as amended the recommendations of staff and to forward this item to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on non-consent.
23:45Amendments made to the legislation and amending three adding three further resolved clauses.
23:51One further resolved that the city council directs the city administrator to provide written reports to life enrichment committee every six months regarding the program, receiving funding from the funding sources accepted or appropriated through this resolution, including current or future allocations of such funding sources, including but not limited to homelessness housing assistance and uh prevention happen funds and Oakland Path rehousing initiative funds and county winter relief funds.
24:20The first report shall be due not no later than six months after the execution of the uh associated agreement.
24:28Each report shall include program level performance and metrics for each provider and program receiving funds from the sources, including total contract funding amount, number and individual served, percentage of clients served who identify as black or African African American, number and percentage of participants existing to uh permanent housing, housing and retention outcomes at six and twelve months, average length of stay, program capacity and average uh occupancy of utilization rates, program level exit to permanent housing outcome for black and African Americans and American clients, any new enhanced performance metrics and or uh benchmark estimated by the city administrator who shall be informed by historical performance and data from per jurisdiction, performance comprise compression to table, summarizing program level matrix and or
25:00Program level performance and metrics for each provider and program receiving funds from the sources, including total contract funding amount, number and individual served, percentage of clients served who identify as black or African African American, number and percentage of participants existing to uh permanent housing, housing and retention outcomes at six and twelve months, average length of stay, program capacity and average uh occupancy of utilization rates, program level exit to permanent housing outcome for black and African Americans and American clients, any new enhanced performance metrics and or uh benchmark estimated by the city administrator who shall be informed by historical performance and data from per jurisdiction, performance comprise compression to table, summarizing program level matrix and or benchmarks to further resolve that it is that if a program funded through these sources fails to meet benchmarks established by the administrator, the city administrator shall implement appropriate uh remedies, which may include default notices, corrective action measures, performance improvement plans, technical assistance, non-renewal or termination and over shell and over shell include discussion of such measures in next required six months report to life enrichment, and three further resolve that the city administrator should incorporate the program level performance matrix and benchmarks reported pressure to this resolution into future funding recommendations for the homelessness program supported by these funding sources, including contract renewal extensions or new funding allocations and shall provide to the council some a summary of how how program performance information informs such funding recommendations and that concludes the amendments for this item and moving.
26:37Can we hold on that item?
27:40Yeah, they're requesting that this be scheduled to the March 24th uh 2026 Public Safety Committee agenda.
27:48Thank you for your patience.
27:50So on 3.30, uh talked with the chair of the committee.
27:55This is going to go on consent as opposed to non-consent.
28:00And just restating uh Chair Jenkins' uh request that item 3.30, the HCAP winter relief and OPRI is being requested to now be scheduled for March 16th City Special City Council agenda on consent.
28:19We are now moving to recommendations from the March 10th public safety committee agenda.
28:24And this coming from the OPD cadet, and this excuse me, my apologies.
28:31It's only the one the one item that's on that agenda was OPD cadet program funding.
28:36And this item was approved from staff to be for the recommendations were approved from staff to be forwarded to the March 16th Special City Council agenda on consent.
28:47And that is your last item three.
28:50We do have two speakers on this item.
28:53Let's hear the speakers and then uh yeah, speaker source.
28:57We have Lair Beekman.
28:58If you are here in uh chambers, please approach the podium in any order, and then um if you are participating online, please raise your hand so we can recognize you.
29:06And then we have Raji Mandal.
29:09Uh Rajimandal District 4.
29:10I'm speaking of support of item 3.9, uh, the OPD vehicle uh GPS tracker policy, the city auditors report on 911 response times, specifically recommended enabling GPS location capability and patrol vehicles, so dispatchers can identify and send the closest available unit.
29:26It's a practical operational improvement that can help reduce response times without additional staffing.
29:31And it hasn't been publicly dispeded since a PAC meeting in 24.
29:34I would also appreciate a clarification from staff on one related point.
29:38Uh, Oakland Fire Department appears to have already implemented a pilot using GPS enabled dispatch capability without council approval.
29:45Could staff explain how that program moved forward operationally while OPD policy is still pending approval.
29:52Thank you for your comments.
29:54I do apologize to the public.
29:55Um our stopwatch on the Zoom app is not working appropriately, so I will be time using the timer on my phone.
30:00So I'll be time using the timer on my phone.
30:04So we will now go to the next public commenter who is participating via Zoom.
30:08I have Blair B or I'm not sure if he's in person, Blair Beekman.
30:12If you are here participating via Zoom, please raise your hand in the queue.
30:16I do not see Blair Beekman.
30:18So those are all your speakers for item three.
30:23To the district one and two office, did you guys work out item 3.6?
30:31We can uh withdraw the request for co-sponsorship from council member Wong's office.
30:37So that being withdrawn, uh bear with me.
30:41Uh 3.8, Councilmember 5 is going to be added as a co-sponsor.
30:49We're gonna note the rule 24.
30:523.20 will go to city council on consent.
30:563.22 is going to rules, no date specific with me to work with council member Brown and the administration on where this is placed next.
31:06Um going to 3.29 is going April 28th.
31:12Um 3.30 will go to consent.
31:20And with that, I'll entertain a motion as amended.
31:36And um just want to be clear, and we also included the rule 24 for item 3.1 and 3.2.
31:46And so that was a motion by council member uh Ramachandran, seconded by council member Brown to approve item three as amended.
31:54On roll, Councilmember Brown.
31:56Council member five.
31:58Oh, did I go on yes?
32:02Um council member Ramachandran.
32:04I and Chair Jenkins.
32:05I item number three was approved um as amended with three eyes when excused.
32:11That now takes us to item number four.
32:15One moment while I switch back to that page.
32:19Item four is the review of the draft agenda's pending lists and the city council and committee agendas.
32:26Noting you have the March 16th special city council agenda in this packet as well as March 19th rules of the pending list and the draft agendas for March 24th in the rules draft agenda for March 26th.
32:39Councilmember Brown.
32:41Um, thank you so much.
32:43Uh, just wanted to uh make the clerk's team aware and my colleagues that we have shifted the date of the education partnerships committee to Monday, April the 13th at 3 30.
33:01Good time to the administration.
33:06Um we need to move from the city administrator's office under the draft um LAC agenda for March 24th.
33:13Item number four, the report on the impact of ordinance.
33:18Number one three eight two five and recommendations.
33:21Um staff is requesting that that item go to the April 21st LEC.
33:29Um yes, on behalf of Council Member Wang, we uh look are looking at the draft uh March 24th draft agenda for CED.
33:39Um we're looking to reschedule item number five regarding the relocation agreement with outfront foster interstate LLC to the April 21st CED agenda.
33:58Anything else all right.
34:02Any public comments.
34:06Yes, we do have two speakers.
34:08We have uh Ram Rajni Mandal, excuse me, and Blair Beekman.
34:13Rajny Mandel, District 4.
34:14I'm asking that two oversight reports be scheduled for council review.
34:18First, back in November, the police commission recently transmitted its recommendation regarding OPD's annual militarized equipment use report under Oakland's militarized equipment ordinance, OMC 9.65 implementing AB 481.
34:30The governing body must review and determine whether to continue authorization for the equipment and its use policy.
34:35Since the commission is completing its review, it should be agendized for public safety and then city council.
34:40Um second, the recent audit by the city auditor notes the importance of regular reporting from the community police review agency.
34:46OMC 2.45 requires periodic reporting by the CIPRA Director to the Commission as well as city council regarding investigations and operations.
34:54So I ask that that CIPARA biannual report referenced in the audit also be scheduled for council review so that the information can be seen publicly.
35:03Any more public speakers?
35:05I have Blair Beekman.
35:07Um, if you are participating in Zoom, which I do not see him in the queue, so that concludes your public commenters for item four.
35:13Okay, so noting the ed partnerships Monday, April 13th at 3 30 p.m.
35:18Noting uh March 24th, CD item number five is rescheduled to April 21st, and noting item number four um life enrichment, March 24th, move to April 21st.
35:32I'll understand a motion.
35:39Thank you so much for that.
35:41And uh we have a motion by Councilmember Brown, second advice Councilmember Rama Chanjin to approve item four as amended on roll.
35:50Council member Brown.
35:52Aye life is excused, Councilmember Ramachandran.
35:56I and that concludes item four with three eyes, one excuse.
36:00We now move to uh open forum.
36:02I have two speakers.
36:03I have Raji Mandal and Blair Beekman.
36:08Rajdi Mundal, District Four, the auditor's recent report on Oakland's police oversight agencies identifies staffing challenges across the police commission, CIPRA, and OIG.
36:17Those staffing challenges are not unique to these agencies.
36:20Most departments across City Hall are operating under similar fiscal constraints.
36:24But the report also points to broader questions about how these oversight bodies operate within the city's governance framework.
36:30The audit references issues such as reporting responsibilities, committee structures, and how these agencies carry out their work within the city's administrative system.
36:39So as council and administration review the report, I hope the discussion considers not only resources but also governance, including how authority, accountability, and reporting responsibilities are organized across these oversight bodies.
36:52Those policy questions ultimately fall within the council's role as the city considers the audit's recommendations.
36:59And again, I do not see Blair Beekman in the QR in the room, so that concludes your open forum speakers.
37:05This meeting is adjourned.