0:56Thanks for being here.
0:57I'll go ahead and call this meeting to order on December 9th, 2025, and ask the city clerk to please call Raw.
1:03Commissioner Henderson.
1:13I would ask Commissioner Smith to say the invocation tonight, and then we'll remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:23Father, we thank you for your grace and goodness.
1:26May your face continually shine upon us so that your ways may be known in our communities.
1:35I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
1:41And to the Republic for which it stands.
1:57Okay, City Manager, are there any additions or deletions to the agenda tonight?
2:03Mayor, no additions, but one deletions uh in agreement by both parties.
2:07The employee grievance appeal will be removed from tonight's agenda.
2:14And uh first up is a new employee introduction, and uh I would invite uh Taylor Morshing and Greg Shelton to come up and uh introduce them.
2:25And I don't think Greg's here.
2:36All right, thank you for having us here today.
2:39Um first I'm gonna introduce Lamyra Askew right here.
2:43Um she is our new recreation specialist for Paducah Parks and Recreation.
2:47Um it's a new role for Lamyra.
2:49Um joined the recreation division after serving the last six plus years as our administrative assistant.
2:54Um Lamaira's a graduate of West Kentucky Community and Technical College.
2:58Um she supported our department in many ways in the past.
3:02Um, but moving forward as a recreation specialist, you'll see her helping with our day camps, our summer camps, operations at the Robert Cherry Civic Center, and conducting many special events throughout the year.
3:13Um just last Saturday she ran the Candy Cane hunt in downtown Paducah.
3:17Um beyond her career, Lamyra is busy raising her six children.
3:21Uh she also loves to bake in her free time.
3:24Um I know she's excited for a new role with Paducah Parks and Rec, and we're happy to have her on the recreation team.
3:34Congratulations, Amira.
3:38Um also to my left is uh Coben Gray, who I'd like to introduce as our new park supervisor.
3:43Um he started December 1st in that role.
3:46Um he spent the last 10 plus years in construction, property and building maintenance, and most recently is working at Baptist Health Paducah.
3:54Um Coben will be leading our parks maintenance crews as they work to keep our park system uh safe, functional, and attractive.
4:01Um he'll be helping with special event support as well, and he got a crash course in the Christmas parade this last year.
4:08Coben's originally from Livingston County.
4:10Um here on the rank of an Eagle Scout as a youth, and he currently lives in the West Paducah with his wife and two kids, and he is still active in the scouts serving as a cub master for PAC 105.
4:23Um he's looking forward to serving the city of Paducah, our citizens and all of our visitors.
4:38Okay, next up, uh, and Taylor can just stay up.
4:41Uh the next uh we had quite a Christmas parade this past weekend, and uh so we we have some awards and I'll turn it over to you, Taylor uh to tell us about them.
4:52All right, thank you.
4:53Um first off, I would like to thank all of the groups and entries that participated in last Saturday's City of Paducah, Kentucky Christmas Parade, which was themed Sounds of Christmas.
5:03Um the parade was held Saturday, December 6th, and we had a hundred parade entrants, which was very consistent with last year.
5:10Um I'd also like to thank all of our city staff who worked the parade as well.
5:15Um there are around 60 people working the streets on trying to keep everyone safe so they could have fun at the Christmas parade.
5:22Uh today we would like to recognize the winners from our six judging categories as voted on by our three Christmas parade judges.
5:30Um the third place winners do receive 200, second place receives 250 dollars, and first place receives $30, and those checks will be mailed to the participants.
5:40Um the first place winners were invited to be here with us tonight, and it looks like we have a number of them with us.
5:46And uh when we announce your name, we'll ask you to come up.
5:49We have a certificate for you, then we'll have you stand over there by um backdrop there, where we'll take a group picture at the end.
5:57All right, so we'll be going.
6:01All right, in our theme float category, third place was Drake Lighting, second place was Hooks Events Incorporated, and first place was Darling Ingredients.
6:21Thank you, Gonna say yes.
6:27We'll have them all you want to do.
6:30Just hang out, just hang out up there for a minute.
6:35You won't look as conspicuous as in a moment.
6:40All right, next category was our religious float category.
6:43Uh third place was St.
6:44Matthew Lutheran Church, second place was Rest Church, and first place was Washington Street Baptist Church.
6:55That sounds like that sounds like an inside deal.
6:59I've got all my that sounds like an inside deal.
7:08Uh we won't maybe stand them the rest of the movie.
7:18All right, next category is the non-float division.
7:21Uh third place was Rather Ride than Work.
7:24Second place was Little Tractor and Equipment Company, and first place was Goodwin Farms.
7:32And they could not be here with us tonight.
7:35They let me know that.
7:38All right, next category is our school float division.
7:42Uh third place was Morgan Elementary School, second place was Lone Oak Middle School, every Flash Matters, and first place was Forest Friends.
8:09Next division was drill team, uh, third place was Center Stage Dance Academy, second place was Fingerprint Dance Studios, and first place was Explosive Force Dance Team.
8:30Shouldn't they be like dancing to the I think they danced out Saturday?
8:38All right, and then our final category was the bands.
8:41Uh third place was Paducah Tillman High School Band of Blue, second place was McRain County High School Band, and first place was Massack County High School Marching Patriots You guys beat some tough competition.
9:05We'll do our best here with this fall.
9:20Thank you, everyone again.
9:27And just a reminder, uh next year's Christmas parade will again be on the first Saturday in December, and we look forward to having everyone back for that.
9:42Okay, next up on the agenda is a um annual presentation from Paducah Power and uh Doug Hanley's gonna uh give us the exciting audit report.
9:55Yeah, yeah, that was fun.
9:57Uh this will not be fun.
10:00I told him to keep it short.
10:03I said I said keep it short.
10:05He's got some good news though.
10:07I did uh prepare this based on uh almost the exact same uh presentation that I made last year with a couple of little changes highlighted in red there.
10:21I want to go over highlights, I'll talk about uh financial stability and control, but I also want to talk about this year.
10:29I want to really emphasize financial strength.
10:32And last year we were talking about uh an additional revenue opportunity.
10:38Well, this year that opportunity is realized, and you can see it in the in the results.
10:44Also want to add a few comments about looking forward, and then the reason I'm here is to ask you to receive and file this report.
10:55So first of all, financial stability, and uh this is a a graph of the actual Paducah power system rates for the past four years compared to what the rate would have been if you had taken the January 2022 rate and adjusted it for inflation every year.
11:24And so the lower number is our rate, the higher number is uh what it would be just for inflation.
11:33So our rates are 17 percent below what they would have been if you had adjusted them just for inflation.
11:41So we're pretty proud that Paducah power system rates to consumers are helping consumers control their monthly bills.
11:56So I would talk about uh control.
12:02That's where last year this chart, this uh table of numbers.
12:09I was uh bragging about how all of our actuals came in at like 95 percent of budget, and if you look at this, you might want to just scratch the word control because this looks out of control, but kind of in a good way.
12:26Bear with me, it's if you look at the revenue, it's a lot more than budgeted.
12:34It's because we sold a lot more kilowatt hours.
12:38You sell a lot more kilowatt hours, then you have a lot more purchase power and generation expense.
12:43That's why those are so much higher.
12:46The um items that we control locally, T and D expense and overhead, well within budget.
12:54And as long as your revenues are growing by more than your expenses, the bottom line is a lot more.
13:03So this is really a pretty strong financial picture.
13:11Well, that gets to the uh additional revenue opportunity that we talked about as an opportunity that has now been realized that and that is uh the revenues that we're getting from Bitcoin mining customers.
13:29And just to show you how big they are, in terms of sales, there are two customers are the top two largest customers in terms of electricity sales, and they make up over one-fourth of the total system sales.
13:48Those two customers are bigger than the other eight customers in the top ten by double.
13:57So it's a lot of kilowatt hours that we're selling, and the reason that these budget numbers or these actual numbers are so far out of line with the budget is and I I tried to um explain this last year is that we don't budget for these customers because you know they arrive in these uh containers, they set up like that, and they can leave like that.
14:25So we don't want to budget and rely on those revenues and have them go away, and now we're stuck with uh costs that we have to recover from all of our other customers.
14:37So we treat these revenues as um sort of outside the budget so that uh it's extra and uh and it's always good news when we get it.
14:52So we have the effect of the Bitcoin mining revenues is a lot more revenues, but a lot more power costs.
15:02We have a low margin on what we sell to them, but we've structured it in a way to practically eliminate any risk to the utility.
15:12Uh we take in a big deposit, we bill them what our costs are directly related to them, and uh, and then we add a margin to that.
15:25That distribution charge that we collect, we take 10% of that and immediately apply that to our power cost adjustment calculation.
15:37So every month, all customers in the system are getting an immediate benefit from the Bitcoin revenues.
15:47The other 90% goes into a rate stabilization fund.
15:51Now that that means it's not like budgeted for current operating expenses, but we can take that rate stabilization fund and um pay off long-term debt or uh use it for capital expenditures, and that has a long-term uh effect of lowering the rates to everybody in this on the system.
16:16So kind of this graph is Bitcoin revenues go into the piggy bank, and the piggy bank is used to build a substation, and the other line is like with bigger and more capacity from our substation, we could actually add more Bitcoin customers to the system.
16:37So that kind of leads into you know looking forward what's going on, um kind of the financially the big expenses that we've had or and are having is two major substation upgrades.
16:54Uh one's just recently completed and it costs five million dollars.
16:59Another one is now in progress, and it's gonna end up costing six point five million dollars.
17:05Now these are these are huge expenses for uh a utility to absorb on a uh annual basis.
17:17So what we've been able to do is uh uh finance these most of the time this would be a long-term debt uh bond or something like that and spread out over 30 years.
17:29We're financing these using short-term borrowings with a five-year amortization, and we're gonna use the Bitcoin revenues to pay it off probably sooner than that.
17:42So that's a big deal, and it's a big positive.
17:47It's gonna have a long-term beneficial impact on the on our rates.
17:52Uh, the other thing that's going on, you probably are starting to hear about the fiber to the home project.
17:59We're uh being very uh strategic about where we're rolling that out, and we're we've done a pilot to uh develop data on the cost and the take rates based on different demographics and uh the types of homes, the types of neighborhoods, and uh the type of electricity service that you get, and so we're using that cost data and the take rates that we we learn from that to prioritize different zones uh based on um what the likelihood is that uh we'll be able to uh achieve positive cash flow from that uh that zone.
18:49Um so that's that's in the works, and that's gearing up, and you'll probably hear more about it.
18:54The other thing you're probably gonna hear more about is over the next year or so is we're gonna have a pretty significant turnover in our management team.
19:02We're planning for that.
19:05We have succession planning uh strategy underway.
19:09We've had one significant new hire already, and we'll start uh we have some people that are probably going to be elevated from within and uh at least one person more probably hired from outside, but that's our strategy, but we've we've got a plan.
19:32So uh in summary the financial audit uh the report, the audit opinion is clean, the remarks and comments were all positive, uh the financial condition is solid and strong, and uh even improving, and uh and our prospects are very promising.
19:55So I'm here to ask you to receive and file the report.
20:00If you have any questions, go ahead.
20:01I just really a comment.
20:02I know that we're busy with the fiber, but I would like to make a comment that the people that have Paducah Power Fiber are very happy with it.
20:13Very fast, and but also that uh there's uh that if you buy Paducah Power Fiber, you're shopping at home because it's a homegrown, homeowned uh company, and so I would and also may help with our power rates too.
20:31So that was just I'm putting a plug in.
20:36It's a good it's a good service, it's fast.
20:38We have good uh response times for you know, and if you have a question or could you know problem, you call, we're right there.
20:47We hear you, we're out there that same day.
20:49Doug uh Doug, how many uh fiber customers do we do you have it's uh I I can't uh don't quote me because I don't know.
21:05Not well, it's not a lot yet.
21:07It's really not a lot yet.
21:08We have uh are you adding customers?
21:10Yes, we we've been like I said, deliberate about it.
21:14We did a pilot project and we didn't we're not trying to canvas the whole city all at once.
21:19We we just want to look at these areas and see what we get, and and we got um in the range of a hundred or so in that just to get data, and um and then we're just now rolling out this um uh uh crowd source uh program where uh people can go on the website and say, yes, I'd like to get uh that in my neighborhood.
21:48So we'll start to collect the um the responses by zone and say what which zones are most interested in getting the fiber, and then we look at our data and our experience from the pilot project, and it says, well, uh this would be a uh very expensive neighborhood to serve.
22:08This other neighborhood, they want it just as bad of it.
22:11It's gonna be real easy to rule it out there, so we might go there first.
22:15The r the reason I ask is because there's just a lot of competition, it seems like, you know, right now in the city.
22:21I mean, I ran into another company over the chamber uh last week, you know, I got introduced to, and you know, there's people laying, you know, laying fiber and people are using our fiber, you know, uh competitors, uh, I guess you'd say.
22:38And so, you know, I'm just kind of wondering about the landscape in general.
22:44Well we uh we have to be um we have to be careful and we can't just go everywhere all at once and uh and uh they may beat us in some places and but we're gonna where we go, we're gonna be the better service provider.
23:09What what would make a neighborhood easy to serve as opposed to another neighborhood?
23:18The the you know the if you have a overhead electric service in your neighborhood, then the fiber comes in overhead, and that's that's easy.
23:30And uh if you have underground electric service, then the fiber has to come underground.
23:36That means we have to dig holes and you know run things from the you know down the street underground, and then each location from the uh those little green boxes that are out there in the yard, those from there to the corner of your house somewhere, that has to be underground too.
23:56So that's a little bit more expensive.
24:01And it and again, uh just as important as the take rate, you know.
24:07If everybody in the neighborhood, everybody wants it, we'll do it underground, you know.
24:13But if it's only two or three, you know, it's gonna be hard to justify.
24:18But but are you out calling on I mean going door to door and are you trying to promote the service in areas where it would be economically advantageous to we we we're just rolling out this online program to collect responses from people, and and we've already started to collect responses without this this program.
24:43You know, do you want would you like get on the website?
24:46Do you want to uh uh get Paducah power fiber?
24:51And uh so we have little red dots all over the map, and we start to see where it's more dense, but we haven't committed to you know go here now yet because we haven't collected all the data yet.
25:08Commissioner Wilson, you're on the board.
25:09Do you have any comments or input on all this?
25:30Any other questions?
25:33Thank you very much, Doug, for being here.
25:35We appreciate good presentation.
25:43Okay, we have uh Shannon Crockett here who wants to make some comments uh tonight.
25:51Just to remind you, Shannon, you got three minutes, so really slow, so appreciate everybody.
26:03Uh give me opportunity to talk here for a second.
26:06Um I'm I'm here tonight just as a uh a concerned um citizen of of the community.
26:14Um I've been here in town about about seven years.
26:18I started uh came from Illinois, so um just across the river, but I worked over here, went to church over here, did a lot of activities over here, and about seven years we ago we decided to move it to Paducah.
26:30And during that time we've uh we love the community, we love the the charm, the character of our town.
26:38Uh I started doing some real estate investing and I've read some things on the uh the agenda to that or this week, and just a little bit concerned about the uh the proposal for the uh the way I read it, I'm not an attorney, so I'm just uh you know, a redneck trying to read you know stuff.
26:58And what I way I my take on it is we're gonna you know we're getting ready to get a uh basically an occupancy tax um for all residential uh real estate um for rentals.
27:10And um my concern is one, it's a it's a pretty big cost for folks who do have their own rentals.
27:18Um that cost is gonna get passed on to our renters.
27:21Um it's uh you know, there are some deadbeat and lousy landlords in the town, you know, nobody will disagree with that.
27:30But um I I would I urge urge y'all to think about the fee structure, uh the cost it's gonna have on folks.
27:38Um you know, there should be avenues already in place to go after folks who are not taking care of their properties and who have hazardous you know things in their properties.
27:49Uh my my big concern is just uh the for a few years, I guess, years ago when I first moved here, uh the reception of Paducah from people I worked with, people that I knew I was kind of negative on being a place um to promote people to invest in, like especially real estate folks.
28:09Um and I think the city's done a lot of made a lot of effort in the last few years to improve that, and um I I think that adding an extra cost and uh burden to the landlords and also the tenants to to get a yearly um inspection and and just coordinate that just puts a an extra burden on folks, it's gonna put a burden on your you know the city staff as well, and uh it just it looks like another just another way to get more money from us.
28:39Um you know, I'm I don't want to be insulting, but we we had a large tax increase with the 911 parcel fee every year.
28:48We have public hearings required by law because we go over the the minimal or the max that we can raise taxes, and we go up every year, it's just a little bit every year.
28:57It's not you know thousands and thousands every year for anybody, but it's it's just it's uh an amount that uh it adds up over time and makes it difficult.
29:07So I don't just ask for y'all to think about it really hard.
29:11You know, and maybe my um perception of what we're looking at having is is not really what it is, but to me it it just kind of looks like that, and I have a lot of friends who kind of think the same way.
29:23So I just asked y'all very uh sincere um looking into it.
29:30Thank you very much.
29:32Um I hope you'll be able to stay for the discussion, you know, because we're gonna introduce the ordinance tonight.
29:37I'm sure we'll have a lot of discussion.
29:39Uh this is the first reading, and uh, you know, so we'll get into it when we do the reading.
29:45But thank thank you for your comments very okay.
30:02And so, you know, there's been a lot of uh discussion, I think, in the community for for for and against golf carts.
30:11We're really trying to find a way, you know, that uh the folks that want to and can safely um operate golf carts, you know, in the right areas uh that we give people that opportunity uh but not be a burden on people who do not.
30:34Um so we haven't arrived at that just yet, but uh but we haven't forgotten it, and it's not something that we're going to uh just bury.
30:45Uh it's something that hopefully that we can uh talk about uh hopefully on the first uh the first meeting in January.
30:53So I just wanted to mention that in case people are wondering.
30:58And with that, I'll move uh to the consent agenda.
31:01Items on the consent agenda are considered to be routine by um our board of commissioners, and they'll be enacted by one motion and one vote.
31:12There'll be no separate discussion of these items unless one of our board members uh so requests, in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered separately.
31:23The city clerk will read the items recommended for approval unless there's anybody that has any.
31:31And so I'll go ahead and ask the clerk to read, please.
31:36Approved minutes for the November 25th, 2025 meeting of the Board of Commissioners.
31:41Receive and file documents, reappointment of Greg McKeel to the Brook Stadium Commission.
31:45Said term shall expire December 5th, 2029.
31:48Personnel, a municipal order authorizing and approving a contract for services between the City of Vaduca and Bacon Farmer Workman Engineering and Testing, Incorporated for a not-to-exceed amount of 153,000 dollars for the design and engineering services for the Greenway Trail Phase 7, South Side Expansion Project, and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to same a municipal order of the city of Paducah authorizing an access agreement and addendum with Terracon Consultants Incorporated and ratifying the mayor's execution of said agreement and addendum.
32:23Commissioner Henderson.
32:26Commissioner Thomas?
32:28Commissioner Wilson?
32:33Uh we have one municipal order uh tonight, and it's uh for uh a promotion, and I'll go ahead and ask the city clerk to please read it.
32:43I proposed motion of the board of commissioners adopt a municipal order entitled a municipal order approving an employment agreement between the city of Paducah and Audra Kyle for employment as director of finance and authorizing the mayor to execute SAIN.
32:55Second city manager, mayor and commission.
33:00Uh it was with great pleasure uh to bring forth uh this recommendation uh to you this evening.
33:06Uh Jewelry Carl, um, you know, this past summer uh we had our longtime finance director uh decide that uh it was uh time for him to retire and seek other opportunities and and slow down life a little bit.
33:19Um and we wish him well in that.
33:21Uh but uh we we did a nationwide search and we came to the conclusion that our top candidate was right inside the finance department and is with uh great pleasure and honor that I recommend uh centering into an employment contract with Audra Kyle to be our next director of finance.
33:39Uh I was involved in the you know the final interview process, and it became clear to me that Audra was well qualified and the best candidate for the for the job, and so I'm proud to uh to be able to uh support that recommendation, you know, myself and uh looks like the host staff's here.
34:04Don't get ahead of yourself.
34:10I think you're good.
34:12All right, call roll.
34:14Commissioner Henderson, aye.
34:16Aye, Commissioner Thomas.
34:18Commissioner Wilson.
34:21Now congratulations, Audra.
34:31Now the hard work begins.
34:35Um so we have uh two ordinances to adopt uh tonight, and I'll ask the city clerk to read the first one.
34:45I'll proposed motion that the board of commissioners adopt an ordinance entitled an ordinance creating a new article of chapter 106 taxation of the code of ordinance of the city of Paducah, Kentucky related to abandoned urban properties.
34:55This ordinance is summarized as follows.
35:00This ordinance would create a new tax category for properties classified as abandoned urban property under Kentucky law.
35:02This tool authorized by KRS 92.305 and KRS 132.012 is intended to address long-term vacant and neglected properties that create safety hazards and negatively affect neighborhoods.
35:15An abandoned urban property means any vacant structure or vacant or unimproved lot or parcel of ground in a predominantly developed urban area which has been vacant or unimproved for a period of at least one year, and which because of its dilapidated, unsanitary, unsafe, vermin-infested, or otherwise dangerous to the safety of persons.
35:32It is unfit for its intended use by reason of neglect or lack of maintenance, has become a place for the accumulation of trash and debris, or has become infested with rodents or other rumin, has been tax delinquent for a period of at least three years, has had a methamphetamine contamination notice posted as provided in KRS 224.1-410 for a period of at least 90 days.
35:54An owner has e neither appealed the notice nor provided a certificate of decontamination during 90 days.
36:00Or it is located within a development area established under KRS 65.7049, 65.7051, and 65.7053.
36:10This ordinance would apply a tax rate of $1.50 for $100 of assessed value to qualifying properties.
36:17Further, the fire prevention division shall adopt a policy for compiling the list of abandoned urban property.
36:22The code enforcement board shall be responsible for reviewing the fire preventions regul recommended list each year and determining which properties legally meet the definition of abandoned urban property.
36:32Code Enforcement Board will also hear and decide all owner appeals, and its certified list shall become the official list used for the applying of the abandoned urban property tax rate.
36:46So this uh, you know, we've discussed this ordinance at length.
36:50Um we're trying to, you know, we did a lot of analysis and research to figure out the best way to try to get at some of these empty buildings where people acquire them and they just sit there and they deteriorate.
37:03You know, I had lunch with uh you know with uh David Wilkins at Main Street today, and uh we've got a couple of buildings downtown.
37:12Uh I'm not sure who owns them, but uh he's had uh a construction expert come in there and take a look at them and uh I mean they said it I mean deteriorating roofs uh take a couple hundred thousand dollars, you wrote really just to stabilize them.
37:31So, you know, nothing that we do is going to do anything quickly.
37:36Nothing's gonna happen as a result of this overnight, tomorrow, next week.
37:40But we've got to I think the whole purpose is we've got to do something, you know, to try to put in place uh a mechanism uh to take a look at these buildings as they begin to age and be able to be more proactive.
37:56So you know, I pushed this ordinance uh, you know, for the last 12 months, and uh again, you know, it's nothing's gonna happen overnight, but but at least it's it's a first step.
38:12So any comments or thoughts from anyone?
38:16I just I agree with it because if these buildings, if they deteriorate reach that point, uh more often than not, it's the city and the taxpayers that are on the hook for exactly demolishing the building.
38:28So not a good situation.
38:30For anyone, really, and it's not like we're making money on this.
38:35It's really an incentive for the owner to um you know the increased tax rate is it's negligible.
38:42It's negligible really, you know, it it's just it's it's um it's a means to try to incentivize people to do something.
38:51So I mean I know life happens that may keep somebody from doing it after they bought the building, but if you can't are not gonna be able to invest in it, then you shouldn't buy the building.
39:02So call roll, please.
39:06Commissioner Henderson.
39:09Commissioner Thomas?
39:11Commissioner Wilson.
39:16And uh now we come to our long-awaited adoption of the South Side revitalization plan.
39:23And I'll ask our city clerk to please read it.
39:26A proposed motion, the Board of Commissioners adopt an ordinance entitled an ordinance abolishing ordinance number 2023-06-8782 and establishing and approving simplified South Side Incentives for homeowners and developers, and authorizing the director of planning and urban renewal and community development agency to administer the incentive programs and provide financial assistance to eligible applicants for improvements, repair, remodel, reconstruction of existing homes, and construction of new homes to support the South Side revalid revitalization plan.
39:56This ordinance is summarized as follows.
40:00This ordinance repeals the existing pilot South Side Housing and Business Incentive grants and their corresponding ordinance and introduces the expanded homeowner and developer incentive grants for new housing redevelopment and construction as part of the South Side Revitalization Plan.
40:22We've talked about it a lot.
40:37So I would ask our city clerk to please call roll.
40:43Commissioner Henderson.
40:46Commissioner Thomas?
40:47Commissioner Wilson?
41:00Congratulations on both those ordinance ordinances being adopted.
41:05Um we have one in uh one ordinance to introduce tonight.
41:11Um, and I'll let the city clerk read it, and then Deputy Chief Cherry is going to come up and talk about it.
41:17A proposed motion that the Board of Commissioners introduce an ordinance entitled.
41:21An ordinance amending section 42 of the code of ordinances related to rental occupancy permits and inspections.
41:26This ordinance is summarized as follows.
41:28This ordinance amends Chapter 42, Article 3 of the Code of Ordinances relating to residential rental occupancy permits.
41:34The amended ordinance removes the definition for nuisance and now instead includes a definition for safety issue, meaning conditions constituting distinct fire hazards or which endanger life, health, safety, or welfare of others.
41:46The ordinance includes the addition of the landlord and or landlord's agents, email address and the application for the rental occupancy permit.
41:54The amended ordinance changes the time period in which the initial inspection shall occur following application for a rental occupancy permit from three to five business days.
42:02As amended, the ordinance will allow the code official to confer with engineers, building electrical, or fire inspectors as deemed necessary to determine compliance and any such area of expertise.
42:12In addition, landlords shall attest that he or she includes his or her lease agreement prov provisions providing a mechanism under which the landlord and or code official may enter the premises with a reasonable notice.
42:25As to revocation of the rental occupancy permit for criminal acts or nuisance, a provision is added permitting the code official to ref reference local law enforcement or criminal records as well as final orders relating to nuisances and adds the code official may take status of criminal proceedings into consideration such that a mere charge may not automatically result in revocation.
42:46The amended ordinance provides that unless otherwise prohibited by law an order that tenants vacate a rental dwelling due to denial, suspension, or revocation of a rental occupancy permit, shall not otherwise prohibit the occupation of the premises for purposes other than as a rental unit.
43:01A provision is added to provide for a certificate of compliance for rental dwelling units, which have no visible and determinable determinable violations of plumbing, electrical building, or fire codes.
43:12A provision is also added which allows for compliant rental dwelling units to be placed on a publicly available list of compliant properties, advising pro prospective tenants that as of the last inspection, the subject property was not noted to have any visible violations of plumbing electrical building or fire codes.
43:28Removal for the compliant properties list may result in from condemnation, evacuation under the fire code, three failed follow-up inspections, and landlord's refusal to permit entry for inspection on two or more occasions.
43:42Tenants refusal to permit entry on one occasion shall not subject the landlord from removal from the complaint properties.
43:48Compliant properties list of landlord provides the reasonable proof, reasonable proof that landlord provided reasonable notice of the city's inspection to tenant under the terms of the lease or rental agreement.
44:01In setting a policy for the systematic inspection and prior prioritization of all rental dwelling units, the amended ordinance clarifies that five or more code violations and five reports of police calls for illegal drug offenses, prostitution, violent crimes, or disorderly conduct may be factors in the system for prioritizing inspections.
44:19A provision is added indicating that absent extinguisher, nothing in this ordinance shall be interpreted to override privacy protections afforded to tenants by law.
44:28Finally, the amended ordinance removes the provision indicated that a valid occupancy permit must be produced prior to the establishment of utility service.
44:39Second, good evening, Mayor, Commissioner, City Manager.
44:44So I've brought Kristen with me also because ordinance change.
44:50So a couple of highlights that that I have if y'all have any questions.
45:00So the minimum is you know that's they don't have to supersede anything, just the minimum.
45:12So those will not be included in this ordinance.
45:14We're doing them anyway.
45:15So those do not apply for our what is included in this?
45:19Single family dwellings in a duplex.
45:21Anything above a duplex is considered a regulated building that we do through the fire marshal side.
45:27So we want to make sure we're clear on that.
45:30Um Lindsay said, we will have a list of approved rentals that anybody that is looking for rental property in the city will have a list of ones that are approved and have past inspections.
45:42The changes that we're making are being or recommendations from Kentucky League of Cities on uh you know statewide rental programs, so we are changing our ordinance to be uh following line what they recommend.
45:55Uh the most significant change is there's no longer subjective things in this, it's strictly by the code.
46:04So in other words, if I think this house needs to be repainted, and one of y'all don't think it needs to be repainted, stuff like that we're kind of eliminating.
46:13So it's if it's electrical, you know, what code references we can specify.
46:17Um as mentioned, there will be an a hundred dollars initial costs on the first inspection, then fifty dollars a year to renew.
46:25Our starting point for this list uh will be obtained from finance.
46:29They already have a landlord list.
46:31However, they have about twelve hundred property owners listed.
46:35But with that, their list uh correct me if I'm wrong, Stephanie includes all commercial rental property, so we'll have to go through that and kind of weed out what we're going to inspect and what we're not.
46:46Then all appeals uh to this will go to the code enforcement board after they have the opportunity to appeal to uh either myself or battle chief Pittman.
46:57Chris, do you got anything to add?
47:01The only thing I have to add is that in reference to um citing to specific codes and removing the subjective criteria, um it was specifically brought to our attention by Kentucky League of Cities that there are issues with referring to properties and citing them or removing um property owners' rights or tenants' rights related to unfit or substandard conditions.
47:24Well, what you think is unfit or substandard may differ from what the next person thinks is unfit or substandard.
47:30So we sort of clarified and made sure that everything will reference the fire code, the electrical code, the building code, um plumbing, so that both property owners and tenants and our code officials know exactly where to go to to look for what is required by the code and by um Pedigos ordinance.
47:50We've got mobile homes.
47:51Do you guys do mobile homes too?
48:00Mobile Home will still be having that on the on the list.
48:06So let me let me make sure I understand you made a statement earlier, uh chair, that if someone thinks that the home needs to be painted.
48:19I just use that example.
48:20And we so can unpack that for me that and you said unpack that for me if you don't mind.
48:27Well, that whole statement which you trying to in my opinion might be different than your opinion on if this looks bad, needs to be repainted, or if it don't.
48:35So if unless it's a specific code reference, there's no discretionary I guess you might say with the inspector, they have to be able to say yes, this is a violation okay of you.
48:46This particular code for whatever the hazard is.
48:52So if there is a uh house that has passed inspection before something happens and some things mess up, did I miss the provision to and what is required to to get that house to where it needs to be?
49:08Yes, if we get a complaint on the house from a tenant or landlord either one, yes, we'll go do a follow-up inspection to see if something's happened since the last time we inspected.
49:17So if something has happened, then what kind of timeline do they have to get it in compliance?
49:22They'll we'll give them the normal 30 days to get it, unless it's an immediate life safety issue that we feel like the power needs to be pulled or something like that.
49:30And so the only cost associated with this ordinance would be that a hundred dollar inspection for the first time at $50 a year after that.
49:39Per unit is correct.
49:41Unless unless it's a duplex on one property, then it'll be $50 for the duplex.
49:45So if you got safety units, it's a hundred dollars per unit.
49:48That's a number of tax.
49:49Plus the $50 taxes, plus if somebody will buy something.
49:53I don't think it's fair.
49:54I think everybody's gonna go up.
50:03Why don't you set up an appointment with with somebody and talk through this?
50:08Greg, would you talk to this gentleman?
50:11Do you know you guys know each other?
50:14Why don't you talk through it and and we'll try to listen to your concerns?
50:18Is it it's about the money, the the hundred dollars.
50:22Yeah, but it's a big expenses you're putting on the landlord plus time, plus effort.
50:27We have to go through the city before we ever rent the house, have them come out and see it.
50:31You guys are talking about landlords, I'm not talking about units.
50:35I personally have 60 and 70 units.
50:38So now I have to every time a unit empties, sometimes I have to be unit 80 three times a year, and now I gotta pay 100 just to be in the business again and pay the property taxes and raised up double them triples in the past four or five, the past five years, property values have tripled a lot.
50:56I don't think it's everybody around here thinks they triple.
50:59I usually rent houses for three or five hundred a month.
51:02Any two bedroom house power is between eight, twelve hundred a month.
51:06You guys are raising those houses.
51:19And I'll I'll be glad to sit in on that, you know, and uh talk with you.
51:24I mean, we what we're trying to do is make sure that rental units are safe, you know, and they follow code.
51:32At the end of the day, the cost is gonna be passed down to the ten.
51:35So your suggestion, you know, again, I I don't think we ought to have that discussion here, make an appointment, and I'll be glad to sit in with you.
51:46Uh I'm concerned obviously about the asset the assessing on the landlords.
51:52I get that, but I'm more concerned.
51:53Why are your faces all frowned up now?
51:56Let me get this out.
51:58I'm more concerned about the kind of the places that people have been living in.
52:06What I have seen with my own eyes from landlords who are charging exorbitant amounts of rents.
52:16Water is all I mean, it's just all kinds of mess, but yet they kindly excitingly collect rent from people, and then have no issue with putting people out on the street if the rent is not paid.
52:35That's what I'm concerned about.
52:36And that's that's why I obviously will be in favor of this, because we got to take care of citizens.
52:42We have to take care of people who cannot take care of themselves.
52:46And to continue to allow that to go on would be absolutely sin and a shame.
52:52Well, just like in anything that we do, there's two sides.
52:56I mean, there's there's the safety side and the you know the the human side, you know, and then there's a landlord on the other side, and there's a lot of landlords out there that are doing it right.
53:07And and and though those who are doing it right, uh they're not at all being penalized in any way.
53:14It's those landlords who are not doing it right and who have no desire to do it right.
53:19That's what I'm jumping at.
53:27So question I've got is it uh so this is designed to really deal with our problem landlords.
53:37We've got landlords that are not a problem.
53:40Is there is it one size fits all?
53:44To be fair across the board, I think we have to do it as one side fits all.
53:48There's no way to moderate it so we know that uh we've getting complaints on one landlord, or we know that there's issues with a particular property or properties to um I don't know.
54:03To focus our attention on those areas versus their shotgun approach, so to speak.
54:09So generally um by law, we should treat everyone the same.
54:13And and that's how it's it's laid out.
54:16But there are there is a provision you'll see in there um in setting the policy for um inspections that um indicates that the city should be taking into consideration essentially problem properties, so properties where there have been condemnations or properties where there have been um frequent complaints or frequent um code violations before um or failures for reinspection, there's a provision in there that sort of allows the city to revisit these properties more frequently, although generally in terms of being inspected and your fees and the rights that are afforded to property owners and tenants, it's fair across the board and it's even when we when we began the process of introducing this ordinance.
55:03So that was anticipated.
55:05And I do think that we ought to listen, you know, to to everybody.
55:09It's a first reading, so you know, we hadn't put any, you know, the ordinance hadn't been established yet.
55:14But certainly uh I'm look, you know, Greg set an appointment up with this gentleman, and I'll sit in and I want to understand you know the issues there.
55:23And um, but I will say, you know, to uh commissioner's point, um, you know, it's we do not want people living in being taken advantage of by landlords who are not taking care of their places.
55:42You know, that's not the city, that's not the kind of city that any of us want to be.
55:46Well, and I I think I've shared you know some pictures with all of y'all throughout the last couple years that shows some of the conditions some of these houses are in.
55:52We found one last week that uh they had a gas-fired hot water heater that was venting into the house instead of in the outside.
55:59So, you know, that's the type of stuff that that we're trying to eliminate and we'll go from there.
56:06So, Greg, we we just for clarification, this is not a new ordinance.
56:10This is an ordinance that's been on our books, and we're only taking the opportunity to amend that based on recommendation from legal and uh what uh Kentucky League of Cities has advised we should look at.
56:21Yes, but we haven't been enforcing the ordinance that's on our books now.
56:26And what we're proposing to do is enforce this ordinance.
56:29So it's you know, it's uh put some teeth into it, right?
56:41My understanding is that individual homes get this um inspection.
56:47Uh what the multi-families, and my understanding is I get one per multi-family, and they don't get the hundred dollar per the hundred dollar tax.
56:54No, the multifamily dwellings, such as apartment buildings, are regulated by the state.
56:59Uh we it's regulated by the state fire marsh office on turn, since we have a local fire marshal, we do those ourselves.
57:06So they do not qualify for for this.
57:09They don't get the number of the 40 40 unit building.
57:12No, those are no single families are not being that's not fair.
57:18Well, I talked to one property owner today that that owns both apartment buildings and single family dwellings, and he was supportive of the thing he said wasn't it there for what he's dealing with already.
57:28So I know this documents now.
57:35Any other comments from commissioners?
57:39Okay, we're all good.
57:48Okay, we will move to comments.
57:51City manager comments.
57:53Um you heard Taylor uh mention uh the number of team members it takes to pull off the parade, and just wanted to highlight that again.
58:00Is that it's not while our parks uh department uh it you know, over 60 additional people out there during the parade, and and we doesn't even account the the public works departments that are having to go out and do that, the cleanup and everything.
58:14So I just wanted to recognize that we enjoy providing that opportunity of a parade for our citizens, but it does take a lot of work, and I appreciate all of our team members that they give up their time and away from their families to put that on for our community.
58:27And the other thing was uh just as a reminder that uh we uh at this time do not plan to have our second regularly scheduled meeting of of the month, and so this will be our final planned uh meeting for uh for the uh for December.
58:44All right, comments from commissioners.
58:48Uh I would like to ask if we could set up a tour of the sports plug, the new sports flags.
59:00Yeah, I was gonna say that's the only can we just drive through it or didn't it?
59:04Well, you're gonna need someone to drive you through it.
59:07I haven't been offered a tour, and I'd really like to go on sure.
59:10Yeah, you got some boots?
59:12I didn't have a farm girl.
59:15I I just wanted to I'm sorry, go ahead, Commissioner Thomas.
59:18Well, all I wanted to say was just um it's the end of the year and my first year on the commission.
59:23I just wanted to publicly thank all of you for working with me for helping guide me in situations while also um accepting and listening to my perspective that I brought to the table as well.
59:32So just wanted to wish you all of Merry Christmas and a happy new year, and just thank y'all uh all the work we've been able to do with the city.
59:40Well, it's been a challenge to one, but no.
59:45No, I'm I'm just kidding.
59:47It's uh it's been great.
59:48You brought a new perspective uh on a lot of things, and it's opened our eyes to a lot of things, and so we appreciate your perspective.
59:57I was gonna ask if he had Christmas gifts for all of us.
1:00:01It's been a it's been a real challenge.
1:00:04Or a Chris $50 bill.
1:00:08I just wanted to uh I was excited the Christmas parade was absolutely awesome.
1:00:13And I just wanted to thank the judges and their good taste for the decisions that they've made.
1:00:27And I just my thing is I want to point out it's a service the city provides using city taxpayers' money for the entire community.
1:00:36And so 60 people, that's a lot of money that we spend on that.
1:00:40I'm not complaining about it, I'm just saying people need to recognize that there's a lot of things the city pays for that they enjoy that may not be a taxpayer for.
1:00:54Okay, uh we do have an executive session tonight, and we do not anticipate taking any action afterwards.
1:01:02And I'll ask the city clerk to please read the motion.
1:01:06A proposed motion that the Board of Commissioners go into closed session for discussion of matters pertaining to the following topics.
1:01:11Proposed or pending litigation is permitted by CARS 61.810 subsection one C.
1:01:16Issues which might lead to the appointment, dismissal, or disciplining of an employee is permitted by CARS 61.810 subsection one F, and a specific proposal by a business entity where public discussion of the subject matter would jeopardize the location, retention, expansion, or upgrading of a business entity as permitted by CARS 61.810 subsection one G.
1:01:38Commissioner Henderson?
1:01:40Commissioner Smith?
1:01:41Commissioner Thomas.
1:01:42Commissioner Wilson.
1:01:45Aye, I'm not going to be able to do that.