0:00And whereas the Kentucky Heritage Council honors small businesses, historic preservation efforts and vibrant downtown districts across the Commonwealth during Kentucky Main Street Week each May.
0:14And whereas Paducah Main Street transitioned into 2025 to an independent organization with support from the City of Paducah.
0:22And whereas since 2020, since July 2025, 21 new businesses have opened in downtown Paducah with more than a dozen additional projects under development.
0:37Whereas outreach efforts to promote downtown events and business have resulted in 495 local business promotions, 3.4 million social media views, and contributed to an average of 140,000 monthly visitors to downtown.
1:00Whereas to bring people downtown and celebrate culture, music, and community, Paducah Main Street is launching Fridays after 5, a concert series held on Friday evenings from June 5th through August 7th.
1:17Now, therefore, I, George P.
1:18Bray, Mayor of the City of Paducah proclaimed May 2026 as Paducah Main Street Month.
1:26Congratulations, ladies.
2:13Okay, we have uh well, first of all, okay.
2:16Uh City Manager, are there any additions or deletions to the agenda?
2:20Mayor none of this evening.
2:23Uh we have Miss Betty here.
2:26And I was wondering where is that item?
2:36And I would uh suggest that we remove in and talk about it.
2:41So when you get down to that section, you just remove in.
2:48All right, very good.
2:49We have three uh people who want to make public comments tonight.
2:52The first one is Bonnie Kobitz, and uh who lives um.
2:58Well, I'll let you come up and tell us where you live, Bonnie.
3:02You've been here before?
3:03I have been here before a few times.
3:08Thank you for um giving me your attention and time for my remarks this evening.
3:15Um I saw that you were going to be discussing later in this meeting the AI data center that's proposed for Western Kentucky, and so my remarks have to do with that.
3:27Um I am totally against this project.
3:34Although it was said that the water use that a data center uses is a closed system, and there won't be any water pollution, no leakage, no one can guarantee that there won't be any leaks, and when it does leak, who knows what contaminants will end up in the groundwater, the drinking water, or the river.
4:01Data centers make noise, they use an enormous amount of power.
4:07I don't think anyone knows where that power will come from and what effect it will have on homeowner electric bills.
4:15Burning natural gas to power the center will be a very significant cause of air pollution.
4:24And then uh I have here a list of comments that have been made by the so-called experts in this technology.
4:32The first is from Elon Musk, and he says, I quote, AI is a fundamental existential risk for human civilization, it's potentially more dangerous than nukes, it scares the hell out of me.
4:48By the time we react with legislation, it'll be too late.
4:55Sam Altman, quote, I'm a little bit afraid.
5:00I'd be crazy to not be a little bit afraid.
5:06Data centers can build data centers, which can build more data centers.
5:15Jeffrey Hinton, grandfather of AI, warned AI could wipe out humanity.
5:23Newsweek reported that 96% of the time, AI will blackmail its user when threatened.
5:31And 96% of the time AI chose the nuclear option in war games.
5:37Our current administration would like to use AI to collect data on American citizens.
6:19Just to clarify, the discussion tonight has nothing to do with data centers.
6:24It's about, and I've had a couple of inquiries on this today from news organizations.
6:32So it's a discussion about artificial intelligence and how that can be used to improve services and efficiency in governments.
6:43So it has nothing to do with the data center.
6:47So just wanted to clarify that.
7:02Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners.
7:04Thank you for your time.
7:06My name is Stephanie Shepherd, and I'm standing before you tonight to advocate for a capital investment that can transform our community's health and recreation by installing an inflatable seasonal bubble over the Noble Park Pool.
7:22As you know, the only indoor pool in McCracken County was recently condemned by the fire marshal.
7:30Currently, the Noble Park Pool sits under unused for nine months out of the year.
7:36By enclosing it, we can maximize our existing infrastructure and turn it into a year-round aquatic center.
7:44Right now, Paducah does not have year-round lane space or indoor water facilities.
7:51Our local swim teams, including McCracken and Tillman, will be left without a facility.
7:57And based on conversations with school administrators that I had today, our students cannot simply join other schools that already have pool access.
8:07There is also no place for year-round swim lessons in McCracken County.
8:21A pool bubble directly aligns with the city's commitment to improving community wellness and expanding recreation opportunities for all ages.
8:38An inflatable dome, however, is a fraction of the cost and offers a practical proven way to extend the use of the existing public asset.
8:48In Paducah, this would help meet an immediate community need while creating opportunities for revenue through high school lane rentals, winter swim meets, lap swimming passes, and expanded cold weather programming.
9:04This is not simply an added expense.
9:07It is a strategic way to make the city's current investment in Noble Park work harder for the taxpayers while restoring an essential community service.
9:18I know this commission is dedicated to smart forward-thinking capital investments.
9:24I am not asking for a check tonight.
9:27Instead, I'm asking the commission to take the first formal step by directing the parks and recreation department to conduct a preliminary feasibility study or issue a request for information to evaluate the structural requirements, upfront cost, and operational logistics of a seasonal dome.
9:51This is a responsible way to determine whether this solution is feasible, sustainable, and beneficial for Paducah families.
10:00Let's explore how we can keep the Noble Park Pool open, active, and serving the community all year long.
10:09Thank you very much.
10:11That is actually the first time that I've received that recommend or that suggestion.
10:17So there is no question that we have a gap in this community as far as indoor swimming goes.
10:26And there's definitely at some point in time there needs to be something done about that.
10:33But all that takes planning, so we'll discuss your suggestion.
10:37Let me make a ask you.
10:40Do you live in the city, Stephanie?
10:42I'm not in the city, but my son swims at McCracken in the county.
10:52Is that the city, the city represents 37% of the population of the entire county?
11:00So any, I mean, you may want to make the same comment to the county because it would have to be a very broad face to do that.
11:11But isn't Noble Park though?
11:15Is owned by the city, but yeah, but you'd be taking taxpayer, city taxpayer money to provide a service for a much greater population than just in the city.
11:26So it would take a broader source of funding to do something like that, is in my opinion.
11:32So I'm just trying to think bigger.
11:36I I'll add to that with a comment that you know, this is depending on the project and what kind of project that we would end up doing in the long run.
11:47I I think it would require broad support in the community, city, county, private investment.
11:54Uh so it's um uh again, we'll follow up on your your comments.
12:01Um, but I think it's you know, it's it's much bigger, you know, than maybe just putting the pull putting a bubble over Noble Park.
12:11I don't know that for sure.
12:14Yeah, but it's I appreciate the suggestion.
12:17I really do we do have a gap.
12:20And mayor, because I know we've had some conversations in the past about like YMCA, and I've been told it takes community effort to get something like that.
12:28So, what steps I'm not saying aside there right now, but I guess that how would the community, you know, get behind something like that to invite a YMCA to Paducah?
12:38Well, we looked into that uh, you know, five or six years ago.
12:42There was uh, you know, there was a move about uh, you know, an indoor swim facility that included some other things as well.
12:49And um, and that didn't pass, and so then YMCA was kind of nosing around in the community, and I did a little bit of research, but what I found out was that YMCA is gonna come in here and we're still gonna have to raise the money.
13:06I mean, the my the requirements, and if you stop and think, the the indoor facility that we talked about uh five, six years ago was projected at 20 20 plus million dollars.
13:23Um, and it was escalating already at that time.
13:26Today that same facility would be at least double.
13:29Uh, you know, and even a smaller facility.
13:32So you're talking about a lot of money.
13:34It there's a need, there's a gap, but we got to figure out you know how we can fill that gap.
13:40And just to have it in the minutes, Crittenden County High School does have one of these over there pool.
13:46We did have a swim meet there with the bubble last fall or last winter.
13:52We will look, we will investigate.
14:10Uh, I've never done anything like this, so I didn't write no notes or nothing.
14:14Just me and the people in my neighborhood.
14:15Um, I live over on 24th Street, North 24th Street by the Easter seals.
14:20For the last five years, fireworks have been getting extremely dangerous in that neighborhood.
14:28Last year, the Easter seals grounds caught on fire.
14:32The fire department had to be called to put out the fire.
14:35The people across the street from my home, their house caught on fire due to fireworks shot in that neighborhood.
14:43Two young men got arrested in that neighborhood due to a bunch of people just coming to the neighborhood and having a big get together that don't even live in our neighborhood.
15:00And when I come home, there was eight police officers or eight patrol cars there, two fire trucks and two rescue vehicles at 1 30 in the morning in our neighborhood.
15:12My neighbor across the street actually called and told the fire department and the police department that someone had posted on Facebook, come to the 29th Street area.
15:26There's going to be a fireworks party there.
15:30But nothing was resolved from that.
15:34We want something done this year prior before it even gets there this year.
15:40And we don't know what to do.
15:41We've called, we've complained.
15:44We and we get one or two cars drive through, and that's about police officers patrol the neighborhood, but that's about it.
15:54And we just don't want nothing to happen this year.
15:57We're these people are coming in that's not even from our neighborhood and just destroy it.
16:04I mean, fireworks displays are all over the neighborhood.
16:09My pool is covered in roaming candles and all kinds of stuff.
16:14My neighbors, like I said, their yard, their house caught on fire last year.
16:17If their son wouldn't have been home, their house would have burnt down.
16:21And we're just, we don't know what to do.
16:24And we need some kind of full-time patrol around there on the 4th of July, not just a car driving around seven, eight o'clock, and that's it.
16:36I mean, and that's need to stop.
16:38I mean, the law says nothing above, nothing but fireworks of except sprinklers or sparklers and firecrackers, nothing that can go into the sky.
16:48They shoot people are shooting mortars and everything.
16:52There are people running through the yard doing bottle rocket boars and everything.
16:56And we just don't know what to do.
16:59And all my neighbors asked me to, I told them I wanted to talk to y'all about it, and all my neighbors in the neighborhood said, please do.
17:07So that's why I'm here.
17:10First of all, thank you very much for being here and alerting that.
17:14I'm sure we have probably fireworks all over the city where people take advantage.
17:21Um, is there a particular area in your neighborhood they always use?
17:2629th Street right in front of the Easter Seals building.
17:31I've received calls as well, several several calls, and um have inquired.
17:36And it's uh Langstaff, um all those streets.
17:4224th Street, 23rd, 25th, every year.
17:45It's an absolute mess over there.
17:47Yes, I've taken the time to drive through to see it.
17:51I've lived there six years, and every year it's gotten worse.
17:56Like I said, prior to well, 24.
18:00Um, I was home, and the house next to me was vacant at the time, and pine needles were all on top of the house, and if I wasn't home, that house would have caught on fire, and I luckily had a took a ladder and put it in and grabbed a rake and put rake pine needles off of that house would have caught on fire because it was vacant.
18:23So it's just it's ungodly what they do around there, and it's people that's not in our neighborhood that's coming there.
18:32We will get with the police chief.
18:35Thank you very much for being here.
18:42Okay, we will move to the consent agenda.
18:45Items on the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the board of commissioners, and will be enacted by one motion and one vote.
18:52There'll be no separate discussion of these items unless a board member saw request, in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered separately.
19:02City clerk will read the items recommended for approval unless any commissioner would like an item removed for separate discussion.
19:10And we have already removed one item.
19:13So I'll go ahead and ask the city clerk to read the items recommended for approval.
19:19Approved minutes for the May 11th and May 12th, 2026, Board of Commissioners' meetings, receive and file documents.
19:24I mean, it's the order appointing Michael Youngman to fill the vacancy created by the late John D.
19:29Williams as a member of the Board of Trustees for the operation of municipal college in the city of Haduka, Kentucky for a period of four years.
19:35Personnel actions, a municipal order approving a contract with DWA recreation and the amount of 87,202 for the purchase and installation of new shade canopies for the public pool and tennis court facilities in Noble Park, and authorizing the mayor to assign all documents related to SAME.
19:52A municipal order approving a contract with Miracle Playgrounds of Kentucky and Tennessee and the amount of 198,743 for the purchase and installation of new playground equipment at Cobb Park and authorizing the mayor to sign all documents related to SAME.
20:06Municipal order approving the first amendment to a contract for services with right way janitorial to provide certain janitorial services and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to SAME.
20:16I mean, it's a order authorizing the mayor to execute an application for a Kentucky office of the Attorney General's standby the badge peer support for law enforcement grant and the amount of $5,000 to develop or enhance peer support programs that address chronic stress and promote officer mental health and wellness, accepting any grant funds awarded and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to SAME.
20:36I mean it's full order authorizing the mayor to execute a memorandum of understanding between the City of Paducah Police Department and the Paducah Independent School District to allow school district resource officers to conduct law enforcement activities beyond school property to fulfill official duties.
20:50I mean Miss a municipal order approving a contract with Hen and Supply for purchase of lights light fixtures for the marine way improvement project in the amount of $86,757, and authorizing the mayor to sign all documents related to SAME.
21:16A municipal order approving a contract with allied contracting in the amount not to exceed 249,491 dollars for the City Hall Administration renovation and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to SAME.
21:28A municipal order approving a contract with window energy in an amount not to exceed 175,360 for the City Hall Window Film Project and authorizing the mayor to sign all documents related to SAME.
21:40So move second call roll.
21:44Commissioner Henderson.
21:47Commissioner Thomas?
21:48Commissioner Wilson.
21:53So we want to move to the municipal order.
22:00A proposed motion that the Board of Commissioners adopt a municipal order entitled A Municipal Order approving a contract with Ray Black and Son Incorporated in the amount of 499,002 for capital improvements to the Hotel Metropolitan and Purple Room and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to SAIM.
22:21You want to tell us about this?
22:23Good evening, Commissioners, Mayors, City Manager, City Clerk.
22:26So tonight we are requesting you to approve a contract with Ray Black and Son to conduct renovations to the Hotel Metropolitan and to the purple room.
22:35Now this is a result of the Mellon grant that we received in 2024, which was for capital improvements and capacity building for the hotel.
22:45Um in the co-stewardship agreement in 2025, it was agreed that the city would take the lead in helping facilitate those capital improvements.
22:54And so now we are to this point with Ray Black and Son in order to approve a contract to have those renovations done.
23:03This would include renovations to the exterior and the interior of the hotel, as well as to renovations of the interior of the purple room.
23:15When will it begin and what's our projected date for completion?
23:20We do not have a protect projected date for completion at this time.
23:24Speaking with Chris Black, he said as soon as we were able to approve this contract, they would be ready to begin moving forward with the project.
23:33Miss Betty's in the audience.
23:41You've talked with Ray, uh, you've talked with Chris about the project.
23:46Does he have any projections on how long it's gonna take?
23:52He did not, but what he said is that after the approval was made that he could start that following week uh to begin work.
24:02And so he would start with the windows, which are in horrible shape and really need that work.
24:10And he said that he would work with us so we can steal uh dours and things of that nature, but uh it's I have to say it's just so exciting and bless y'all.
24:26I mean, I'm almost felt like this coming up here.
24:30That's why we wanted to see you then soon.
24:34Not tonight, but I almost felt like it.
24:37I I truly have to say that.
24:40And and um I just can't tell you what that will mean, not just for the hotel, but I I really believe for the community and as a whole.
25:01And he he just really bragged on the hotel and was proud of it.
25:07So I mean you are doing a great thing here.
25:13And over the years that you had supported it, you know, to think that we're at this moment.
25:20This junction of the hotels development is just a blessing.
25:28I really want to give you a hug.
25:31I don't know if we can do that, but I work well.
25:35Your pie works well next time.
25:39If I catch it, I'm gonna give you a hook.
25:42But this has been going on for quite some time, really, to try to get this all pulled together.
25:48I think it kind of started the purple room and getting funds.
25:51So well, it's come a long way.
25:55Just to remind all of us, I mean, this is a uh an historic uh black hotel that was owned by uh a female back in the early 1900s.
26:07Early 1900s, thank you.
26:09I didn't want to make a mistake.
26:10But uh it's very historic, and so it's got lots of potential.
26:14People come into town and seek it out, and of course, there's a I guess there's a when you're not there, there's a sign on the door.
26:24Um, so we don't somebody's not there all the time.
26:28But you know, we're getting very close to hiring an executive director.
26:32So we got a lot of a lot of things going on, and uh so we're on the journey, but we're getting closer and closer and closer.
26:41And I just want to say this it's a possibility that the hotel metropolitan is the last green book stock that was built for that particular function.
26:56You know, there's others that have been repurposed, and there are no parking lots or whatever the case may be, but the hotel is still standing, and it was on the Chippling Circuit, a green book stock, and it's still standing.
27:18Thanks for being here, Betty.
27:25Anyhow, everybody good?
27:30Uh city clerk to please call roll.
27:32Commissioner Henderson.
27:35Commissioner Thomas.
27:36Commissioner Wilson.
27:47Okay, we have two ordinances to adopt tonight and one to introduce.
27:51So I'll ask the city clerk to please read the first ordinance that we're adopting, which we read two weeks ago.
27:58A proposed motion that the Board of Commissioners adopt an ordinance entitled An Ordnance Amending Chapter 126 Zoning, Section 104, Medium Density Residential Zone R3 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Paducah, Kentucky.
28:09This ordinance is summarized as follows.
28:11This ordinance amends the R3 medium density residential zone to create a more appropriate transition to the R4 high density residential zone by expanding permitted residential and neighborhood serving uses.
28:23The amendments reduce minimum lot size and width requirements to better reflect the historic development patterns found in established neighborhoods such as the South Side and North Side Historic Districts, while also encouraging infield development and reducing nonconformities.
29:06Commissioner Henderson.
29:09Commissioner Thomas.
29:10Commissioner Wilson.
29:17So the second ordinance we are going to be reading and voting on tonight is approving a budget amendment.
29:28And I would ask our city clerk to please read that.
29:40Entitled an ordinance adopting the city of Paducah, Kentucky Annual Operating Budget for the fiscal year July 1, 2025 through June 30th, 2026, by estimating revenues and resources and appropriating funds for the operation of city government.
29:52This ordinance is summarized as follows that the annual budget for the fiscal year beginning July 1, 2025 and ending June 30th, 2026, as adopted by ordinance number 2025-06-8847 be amended by the following reappropriations.
30:07Increased revenue and expenditures for the general fund by $58,901.
30:12Increased revenue and expenditures for Capital Projects Fund by $2,471,988.
30:19Increased revenue and expenditures for the grant fund by $638.
30:23Increased expenditures for the debt service fund by $772,843.
30:29Increased revenue and expenditures for the bond fund by $472,757.
30:35Increased revenue and expenditures for the health insurance fund by $247,475.
30:47Commissioner Henderson.
30:50Commissioner Thomas.
30:51Commissioner Wilson?
30:56And we have uh one ordinance, a big one, uh, to introduce tonight, and I'll turn it over to our city manager and let him take it from here.
31:04So uh Mayor and Commission, um, one of the tasks of the Commission, probably the most important task of the Commission is to adopt a budget each year.
31:14And as uh you're well aware, and as we have been talking for the last uh several commission meetings, uh the budget process uh has been ongoing uh in earnest for the last several months, and tonight we get to the point of a first reading of the budget for the presentation for the fiscal year uh 2627 budget.
31:36And statutorily, uh the Commonwealth requires city management form of government to present a budget message, and so I will read that first.
31:45Uh then uh we'll have the clerk um read the language uh for the ordinance introduction, and then uh uh Audra will take it from there to answer any questions.
31:56So uh Honorable Mayor Bray, Commissioners and Residents of Paducah, Kentucky.
32:02It is my privilege to present the City of Paducah's proposed fiscal year 2627 annual budget.
32:08This year's budget is guided by a central theme: strengthening today, preparing for tomorrow.
32:15This theme reflects the thoughtful balance required in today's municipal environment of maintaining the high level of service our residents expect while strategically preparing Paducah for future opportunities, challenges, and long-term community needs.
32:30The FY2627 budget recognizes an important financial reality facing local governments nationwide.
32:38Revenues remain stable and continue modest growth, but operational costs continue to rise at a pace that demands discipline, prioritization, and intentional planning.
32:49Rather than simply reacting to these pressures, this budget positions the city to respond proactively by strengthening core operations today while building financial and organizational capacity for tomorrow.
33:02As with prior years, the budget is grounded in the city's six organizational values, solution-driven, customer experience, every person matters, action oriented, fiscal responsibility, and personal accountability.
33:18These values continue to guide how we allocate our resources, deliver services, and make decisions on behalf of the residents in the businesses we proudly serve.
33:29In strengthening today, the fiscal year 26-27 general fund balance budget totals approximately $51.9 million and is supported primarily through occupational license fees, property taxes, and insurance premium taxes.
33:45Across all funds, the city's total proposed budget is approximately $116.4 million.
33:52Supports the broad range of municipal services, infrastructure, capital projects, and community priorities necessary to sustain Paducah's continued success.
34:05The proposed general fund appropriation reflects discipline and stewardship of taxpayer resources through conservative revenue forecasting, thoughtful expenditure management, and operational efficiencies.
34:19Major cost drivers continue to include personnel, insurance, software and technology systems, fuel and inflationary operating expenses.
34:30In recognition of long-term financial stability, nine currently unfilled positions have been frozen, allowing the city to manage cost pressures while protecting the central municipal services and maintaining our operational effectiveness.
34:46At the same time, the budget continues to support the commission priorities, including downtown vibrancy, neighborhood revitalization, south side investment, street rehabilitation, economic development, and quality of life enhancements that reinforce Paducah as a thriving regional center.
35:06Through the investment fund, projected at approximately $7.9 million.
35:11The city will continue advancing projects aligned with these strategic priorities.
35:16As we prepare for tomorrow, and while meeting today's needs is essential, responsible government also requires preparation for the future.
35:25This budget continues the city focus on long-term capital planning, facility modernization, infrastructure investment, and financial resiliency.
35:36Significant future obligations remain, including public facilities, infrastructure renewal, stormwater management, and long-term asset replacement.
35:46Some of these capital projects, like the study hall stabilization efforts, a new police station, planning for future replacement of Fire Station 4, are all currently unfunded.
35:56But these needs reinforce the importance of strategic planning and careful prioritization.
36:03To strengthen Paducah's long-term financial position.
36:07This budget also recommends increasing the general fund reserve target from 10% to 25%.
36:14This policy enhancement reflects municipal government best practices and will better position the city to navigate economic uncertainty, unforeseen emergencies, and future capital investment needs.
36:27In closing, the fiscal year 26-27 budget represents more than just a spending plan.
36:34It reflects a strategic commitment to strengthening the services residents rely on today while preparing our community for tomorrow.
36:42It is disciplined, balanced, and intentionally aligned with the priorities of the Commission.
36:48Together, we continue building a stronger, more resilient Paducah by honoring our history while confidently preparing for the future.
36:58I'd like to take a moment to express my sincere appreciation to Finance Director Audra Kyle, the entire finance team for their professionalism, expertise, and dedication throughout this budget process.
37:10Their work ensures that the city's financial planning remains transparent, responsible, and strategically focused.
37:18Also wish to thank the assistant city manager Michelle Smolin, the executive leadership team, and our whole team for their continued collaboration, thoughtful planning, and commitment to responsible stewardship of public resources.
37:30And finally, I extend my gratitude to the Commission for your leadership, your guidance, and engagement throughout the budget process.
37:40Your commitment to thoughtful governance, strategic investment, continues to position Paducah for the long-term success.
37:48Thank you, City Manager.
37:51And now I think we'll let our city clerk read the ordinance.
38:31Appropriations, $51,882,954.
38:36And reserves utilized, $2,169,602.
38:42Rental fund revenues 142,513.
38:46Appropriations 142,513.491,103 in revenues.
38:56In appropriations, $3,491,103.
39:01CDBG fund revenues $574,275.
39:06Appropriations, $574,275.
39:10Opioid Settlement Fund, $277,957 in revenues.
39:16And $113,397 in appropriations.
39:21Municipal Aid Program Fund revenues at $2,440,300 in appropriations at $2,800,300 with reserves utilized of $260,000.
39:36Investment fund at $8,025,000 in revenues with appropriations at $7,917,352.
39:45Tax increment financing fund at revenues at $123,000 in appropriations at the same.
40:00Court award fund at $50,000 in revenues and $141,000 for $141,490 in appropriations, with reserves being utilized at $91,490.
40:07Room tax fund at revenues at $1,855,000 in appropriations at the same.
40:39With reserves being utilized in the amount of $15,577,654.
40:46Solid Waste Fund at $7,243,500 in revenues and $8,543,207 in appropriations, with reserves being utilized in the amount of $1,299,707.
41:03Transient boat dock fund at $148,822 in revenues and $326,822 in appropriations with using reserves in the amount of $178,000.
41:18Fleet maintenance fund at $1,004 in revenues and appropriations at $1,033,022, with reserves being utilized in the amount of $29,000.
41:30Fleet lease trust fund at $1,664,311 in revenues and $2,492,345 in appropriations, with reserves being utilized in the amount of $828,034.
41:46General Insurance Fund at $1,594,000 at revenues.
41:52Appropriations at $1,594,000 and $6.
41:56Health Insurance Fund at $4,000 in revenues and $4,743,033 in appropriations, with reserves being utilized in an amount of $644,833.
42:31Appropriations at $116,428,475, and reserves being utilized in the amount of $21,078,342.
42:51Well, I'm here to answer quite Lauren and I are here to answer any questions you all uh may have.
42:57We've done presentations at each of the last several meetings and tried to cover everything in as much detail as possible.
43:05We've had our one-on-one.
43:06So at this point, I think any questions you all might have for us.
43:09I think we've been involved in the process.
43:12I think all the commissioners have been involved in the process.
43:15I know that uh you and the finance team done a great job uh under Darren's leadership to you know make sure that we were informed um shall we say the good, the bad, and the ugly about next year's budget and uh you know where there's pressure and and what we're gonna do about that in the future.
43:34So I appreciate that.
43:36Are there questions from any commissioners?
43:42A lot of shaking heads, so I guess you guys did a good job of I've appreciated the process this year.
43:47Uh Darren made some some changes to it, and I've I've enjoyed having well enjoy might be not the right word.
43:55I've appreciated having more opportunities to speak about the budget.
44:00I've uh I've I like the way that we've had the presentation at the meetings, and I just feel like it was a more uh well-rounded process, if that's the right word to use.
44:10And um I think it was been a good one.
44:12And also want to brag on on Lauren here.
44:15So Lauren came in as controller in February, which is a terrible time to come into the finance department.
44:22There's never a good time, Lauren.
44:24Well, there is well, you know what?
44:26When I want to plan vacation, there's never a good time like that.
44:29But um, so yeah, always busy, but uh it's a really difficult time to come in because it's not we'll spend this week learning about this function.
44:38It's just hit the ground running, and so she did a fantastic job.
44:42And I'm really excited that that we get to have her.
44:47Well, congratulations to you.
44:49And Lauren, welcome.
44:51You've done a great job.
44:52Thank you for all your hard work and the whole the team's hardware.
45:00I think um the last item on the uh agenda for tonight is a discussion item, and it's an artificial intelligence update.
45:11And um, as I mentioned earlier, I've got some questions about it.
45:14So looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
45:19Good evening, Mayor, Commissioner, City Manager, City Clerk.
45:22Um, this is as the mayor said earlier.
45:25Uh uh Darren asked me what I wanted to title this, and I just said AI update, but I didn't really think about the timing of all of the data center talk.
45:33We probably should have made a better title.
45:36But the mayor said this isn't about data centers, this is about how the city um is currently using AI in various departments.
45:44It's about what Darren and I learned when we went to the IC May conference in early April.
45:50Um, and then what our next steps are kind of in our AI journey.
45:54Um so that's what this is about.
45:56And then everybody knows AI stands for artificial intelligence, but um uh Google says the definition of it is it's a technology that gives computers the ability to think and act like humans.
46:09Uh the biggest thing to understand is AI is not one thing.
46:13So when people say AI, it is a a wealth of things, it's not one individual thing.
46:21Um, it's just an umbrella term that people use.
46:24Uh it's about a collection of distinct technologies, techniques, and systems.
46:30Um what uh Darren and I learned about at the ICMA conference is a lot of the various types of AI that is used in government, and so that's what we're gonna talk about.
46:40Um there's a lot of bullet points on here.
46:43I'm not going to give you all of the definitions.
46:46Um, this really slide is to kind of prove the point.
46:49These are all the things that Darren and I heard about.
46:51Um there's not one thing that's driving local government, um, it's a multitude of things.
46:58Uh so when someone says AI, the question then needs to be what type of AI are you talking about?
47:04There's generative AI, which is the most common right now.
47:07That's your chat GPTs, your Gemini's, your Clauds that you ask it to do something and it generates something for you.
47:16Um, computer vision.
47:18So if you have an autonomous vehicle or if you've ridden in an autonomous vehicle, um, it uses computer vision.
47:24Uh it sees things on the roadway, identifies them, seizure that's lane departure, things like that.
47:31Uh, that is computer vision.
47:33There's natural language processing, which are your chat bots generally.
47:37If you're interacting with a chat bot on a website, it's natural language processing.
47:41It's it's input you're putting something into it, it's interpreting that and then giving you back information in a natural spoken language.
47:51Um there's optical character recognition, which has been around for a really long time in businesses.
47:56Think of any multi-function device that you scan a piece of paper in, and it takes everything uh that you scanned in and converts it to text.
48:05That's OCR technology or optical character recognition.
48:09Uh, there's intelligent automation, which is robotic process automation, and robotic in this sense doesn't mean robots, but it means something that you repetitively do over and over and over.
48:22You can use um RPA to automate that process.
48:26So if it's something that you always do uh the same every time, you can put it into AI and just have AI do the functions for you.
48:34Um behavioral AI, um, this is you're gonna most often see see it on your streaming services.
48:41So you watch one thing and then it says, Oh, because you watch this, we're gonna recommend this.
48:47That's behavioral AI.
48:49So it's it's interpreting your behaviors.
48:52What do you listen to, uh, what do you say, and then it's gonna recommend things based on that.
48:58Uh behavioral um behavioral AI is also used in cybersecurity uh for email filtering.
49:05Um, so threat detection monitoring systems use behavioral AI, so it looks at all the data that's in your emails, it sees something that is an anomaly, and it'll flag that as well.
49:16You normally don't send these things, you normally don't receive these things, then it's possible that it is some type of uh malicious email.
49:24And then there's machine learning, which is your Alexas and your series that are on your phone.
49:30Um also used in cybersecurity defense systems as well.
49:34So again, it's learning, it's a lot like behavioral systems, but instead of looking at your behavior, it's looking at the devices' behavior and looking for anomalies.
49:45And then there's agentic AI.
49:47Uh, when you hear people talking about like uh I created an agent for a j that's agentic AI.
49:55So it's agent-based uh AI.
49:57You're seeing this a lot for customer support and HR functions.
50:01So things that can be automated by an agent, you're gonna see that.
50:07So those are the all the different types of AI that we learned about at the conference in Orlando.
50:15And so the other thing that we also learned about is just local government use cases.
50:21So how are other government entities using AI?
50:26And so this slide is about those things.
50:31So you there's AI out there where there's a city in San Jose where they're the they're using the cameras that are on their city vehicles, and it's detecting graffiti, it's detecting uh large large trash piles, it's uh detecting buildings that are in disrepair, and then automatically entering uh cases for people to follow up on that.
50:54So that exists out there.
50:56Um talked about it in the cybersecurity space.
50:59Um cybersecurity uses AI now for to detect viruses, ransomware, uh spam phishing detection.
51:08Um Freedom of Information Act and redaction.
51:11Uh we we saw um Holly AI, I think is the company that's that's doing this in the space now where it is taking all of your data from disparate systems, and by you putting in the terms of the FOIA request, it's compiling all that data, but then it goes a step further and it's looking for personally identifiable information, protected health information or criminal justice information, it's automatically redacting that information before your clerk or your attorneys get it to then have to spend the hours that they often have to spend to read every piece of email and redact information.
51:49So there's AI out there that's that's doing that for cities now.
51:53Uh plan review and code compliance.
51:56So someone wants to build a commercial building, they enter or they submit uh to the city a large set of plans.
52:04There's AI now that is interpreting those plans.
52:07You program into it your local building codes and it's scanning those documents to make sure that the plans are number one complete and number two, they're compliant before your your code enforcement uh team ever even sees it.
52:22Um and then it can report back to your citizens or whoever submitted the request, can say, Oh, well, this uh the permit you applied for involves something electrical, there's no electrical plan in this package, and it notifies them, you know, we don't have the electrical.
52:37Um, and so there's plan review uh software out there that's doing basically your kind of your, I would call it I guess a pre pre-plan review using AI.
52:47Uh meeting minutes, kind of simple.
52:49Um, a lot of you may have been on uh Teams calls or Zoom calls where somebody says, Do you mind if I record this meeting?
52:56And then there's somebody else in the meeting that is a bot, it's an AI agent that is basically sitting there and it's converting everything that's said into text.
53:06And so your meetings, meeting minutes where you might spend hours after re-listening to what was said and typing it back out.
53:13AI is doing all the writing for you, and then all you would have to do is review that.
53:19Uh financial auditing.
53:21Uh, there was a company there that was talking about uh looking for anomalies in your financial software, so not financial auditing in the sense that Audra talks about it where you're hiring a firm that comes in and audits more for compliance.
53:35This is for detecting fraud.
53:37Uh so it's looking at your financials and the transactions that are performed on a routine basis, and then saying this one looks out of the norm, uh flags that for human review.
53:49Um resident inquiries, uh, so you know, just like you might call and and you get a phone tree, so press one for this, press two for this, and you get lost in that.
54:01There are AI agents out there now where you call a number and you're talking to a human, human-like uh AI agent, where you just simply say, This is what I'm calling for, and then they route you to the appropriate department or give you the information.
54:18Um they just give you the information over the phone.
54:20Uh so you can ask it questions like, you know, I'm building a fence, do I need a building permit to do that?
54:28Well, it just gives you the answer instead of you having to, you know, press one for this or press two for that, or potentially not get anybody.
54:36There's agents out there that are just giving citizens uh the information that they need 24 hours a day, seven days a week to simple questions that they might ask.
54:47Um, so you know, we use uh flock cameras, um, that's using OCR technology where it's reading the license plate, programming that in there.
55:00Uh but uh there are uh cities that are taking that a step further, and they're using facial recognition to find missing or exploited children or missing persons.
55:09Um so you give the AI agent a picture of someone who is missing, and then the cameras in the city that are normally recording they can do facial recognition and potentially alert you that someone matching that description is located in that area wherever the camera is.
55:30Um call handling and citizen requests, we kind of touched on that with resident inquiry, but um I think I actually flipped the two.
55:38Call handling is what I talked about earlier.
55:41These the resident inquiry is uh agents that you can put on your website where you can ask it questions uh, you know, and then it will respond back to you with the citing the source of the information on the city's website or even in the Muni code, that local municipality's code.
56:00Um and then the last one that we we heard about was uh pay and comp studies.
56:06So I'm not sure how often the city does their pay and comp study, but there's AI agents out there or AI out there now software that is getting uh publicly available information, whether it's union contracts, employment contracts, uh published information, um, you can program your size of city in, and it will look at cohorts, and then it will automatically tell you where you stack up against your cohorts in the community.
56:36So AI is being used uh to do uh faster or make changes faster for pay and comp as well.
56:44So uh those are the things that we we kind of learned about.
56:48Um, and then you know, there was uh there were a lot of sections about how to implement.
56:53So, how do you go about uh implementing AI in your city or your local municipality?
56:59Uh the biggest takeaways from that is start small.
57:02Um, and the have a purpose kind of goes hand in hand with that.
57:06So don't just introduce AI just because you want to introduce AI.
57:12Find a specific use case, make sure that it's small, and then implement that and build off of that success.
57:20Um, if you try to cram AI down people's throats, um it often fails because AI is a change, and so a lot of what happens uh in implementing any software or any technology is change management.
57:34So uh change management 101 is kind of the snowball effect, start small and build off of those successes.
57:42Um and then establish governance.
57:44So you need to have a policy, um, and I'll talk about that in in a in a little bit.
57:51Um but have a policy uh mandate human review.
57:57So make sure that there is a human in the loop is the kind of the term uh that we use in technology is so you don't need an autonomous AI agent or technology that no one is ever reviewing.
58:10Um so it is spitting out information that could potentially be false information, um, or it could be biased information, uh, or it could just be you know flat out wrong.
58:21You need a human to review what is being produced so that you can make sure that you're being responsible with your AI technology.
58:32Um, and then disclose AI use.
58:35So if you're using AI to produce something, you should disclose that that you're using or what you used in order to produce it.
58:44So I'm gonna shift just that's kind of the what Darren and I learned about uh kind of uh in a nutshell.
58:50Um a shift now to kind of where we are.
58:53Uh so our sit for our city, uh we're using AI, uh whether our employees actually know know about it specifically or not.
59:02Um so we talked about OCR.
59:04Well, that's built into our document management system, which is called LaserFish.
59:09We also use Tyler Technology software, and they have a content manager.
59:13Um CR is built into both of those systems where you can scan documents into it and it's reading all of the text and then indexing that the terms.
59:24So that's how you can go to LaserFish and you can search for an ordinance or a municipal order.
59:30Um you can just search a term and it will find that information for you.
59:35Um we're using email security, so we're using uh behavioral AI and natural uh uh language processing.
59:42Um it's looking at our emails and trying to determine whether or not it's a potential red flag.
59:49Um we have endpoint detection or response on all city computers.
59:54This is machine learning.
59:56So your your city computer normally operates in this way, and I'm not talking about what you're doing.
1:00:00And I'm not talking about what you're doing.
1:00:02I'm talking about what the processor is doing, what the what is stored in memory really on the hardware and the system side.
1:00:09It's looking at that and saying, okay, this is how your machine normally acts.
1:00:14It's now acting in a different way.
1:00:16And it sends an alert to us in technology and says, hey, you need to check this computer out because there may be something potentially wrong with it.
1:00:25There are departments that are using generative AI for policy review.
1:00:30So you know, you want to kind of study a policy.
1:00:33You can ask a generative AI, whether it's copilot or chat GPT, give me a summary of this policy, and it will read all of the text and give you a summary of that policy.
1:00:44You can ask it things like how would you know how would uh somebody interpret this policy?
1:00:51How would a citizen interpret this policy?
1:00:53How would a team member interpret this policy?
1:00:56Generative AI will do those types, it'll respond to those types of prompts for you.
1:01:02We're using it for meeting notes and presentations.
1:01:05So again, to take notes, or you can ask co-pilot to generate a presentation based on an outline for you.
1:01:13Um and it will do those things for you.
1:01:15It's generative AI.
1:01:17And then, as I already talked about, law enforcement is using OCR technology on all of the flock cameras that we have throughout the city for license plate reading.
1:01:29So there are a wealth of resources available to us as a city.
1:01:36One of the things that I was introduced to, and we're now members of is the Gov AI coalition.
1:01:41It was started by the city of San Jose, California.
1:01:44It has 900 agencies that are currently in it.
1:01:48We're now one of them.
1:01:49So there's a monthly meeting that you can join that that I join where if you have a question about AI, you want to know you know how someone introduced it, what they're using.
1:02:02It's a time for you to network with 900 other cities, uh municipalities across the United States.
1:02:09Um, but they also provide a wealth of documents to you as well.
1:02:13So you don't have to, you want to write a policy, you don't have to go write it from scratch.
1:02:18You can go out to the GovAI website, download policy templates, and then make those match your organization.
1:02:28Um there's also, you know, we're members of the Kentucky League of Cities and the National League of Cities, and then also ICMA, which is the group that put on the conference that Darren and I attended.
1:02:40Um they have a wealth of information as well on AI and how cities are introducing it.
1:02:46Um obviously colleges and universities, there are now degrees on artificial intelligence that go hand in hand with your traditional computer science programs is now our local community college and our our nearest state university.
1:03:04Um they both have uh classes or even you know minors in artificial intelligence now.
1:03:11And then obviously AI experts and vendors that are in our community that we can lean on for resources and and have talked to about various topics in AI.
1:03:24So what are our next steps as a city?
1:03:27Um I asked AI to generate this, so I'm citing my source.
1:03:31I just asked Copilot to generate me an image that that says crawl walk run.
1:03:37Uh this is what was generated, but that's our that's our approach.
1:03:40Again, we go back to uh start small, have a purpose.
1:03:45Um we don't need to be running out of the gate with AI.
1:03:48We need to start small.
1:03:49We need to pick something uh that can be a success that we can you know snowball on that success in this crawl walk-run approach.
1:04:00And so that's kind of where we are right now as a city.
1:04:03Uh we have an AI policy in draft form uh that Darren and Michelle are both reviewing with me.
1:04:10Uh we're right on the cusp of releasing that.
1:04:13Um I did want to uh obviously I'm not going to stand here and talk about the entire policy, but I did want I I brought some uh quotes from the purpose statement.
1:04:26Um enable effective use of AI technology by providing clear guidance.
1:04:32Um we want to make sure that it is what measures it states what measures we're taking to protect the public from potential adverse consequences of these AI systems.
1:04:45We want to promote responsible and ethical use of AI technology.
1:04:49We want to ensure the compliance of AI systems with all applicable federal, state, and local laws, and we want to establish processes that encourage effective and responsible use of AI.
1:05:02AI is using data that is available to it.
1:05:05If the data is biased, it will give you a bias answer.
1:05:09Someone needs to be reviewing that to make sure that that does not happen.
1:05:13We want to be responsible with our use of AI, and we want to make sure that the information that it's giving back has been vetted.
1:05:23And so, you know, the last thing is the last two things is we want to form an AI working group internally that meets regularly to discuss our use of AI in the city, how we can be promoting that to gain efficiencies, but also look at some of the pain points that our departments have, and if AI is a potential solution to those pain points, again, kind of under the the tint of uh gaining efficiencies in our departments.
1:05:55Um the the last thing is is to assess areas for specific use cases.
1:06:02Again, don't don't just implement AI to implement it, but let's look for something uh that we can use to have a success and then build upon those successes.
1:06:14So I told Darren I would keep it brief, um, and that way you guys could ask whatever questions you would like to ask.
1:06:21Where would we potentially begin crawling?
1:06:25Um, you know, some of the things that I I talked to um I talked to a gentleman that is in the city of Reno, um, and he said that one of the the biggest successes that they had was implementing an AI utility on their website uh where citizens can type in what they want, and they don't have to go scrolling through the website or clicking through the website to find specific information, and it sites the particular technology that they use sites where the source is for the information.
1:06:58Um but that same that same AI technology also exists for what I was talking about with uh the citizens' ability to call in and ask a question.
1:07:08You know, maybe it's uh you know, you get off of work at 6 p.m.
1:07:12Uh, city hall's not open, no one's gonna answer the phone, but you want to ask a question.
1:07:17Well, you can call the number and you could ask.
1:07:20You know, here's my simple question can you get the answer uh without having to wait till the next day?
1:07:26Um you know, or really even interacting with the human if you didn't want to.
1:07:30Um so that's that's an area where I could see a big win for the citizens, uh, but also uh help us internally from an efficiency standpoint.
1:07:41Um, and so that's that's maybe maybe a potential place to start.
1:07:51So one of the areas that uh that I think would be, and I've mentioned this with uh to Darren before, but you know, I'm in a lot of meetings, and there's a lot of things talked about.
1:08:03And you know, I make some notes, of course.
1:08:06Um I meet with Sandra a lot, she makes lots of notes.
1:08:11Um but there are tools out there, as you pointed out earlier, you know, that can capture what's discussed and then provide meeting notes for that.
1:08:24And uh to me, that would be very useful for me.
1:08:28Uh I think we need to learn how to use that though.
1:08:31I I think if we start using it on our own, I think that uh I think there's probably a better way to do that uh so that we can kind of have a for lack of a better word, a standardized use, you know, of how we do that.
1:08:46That would be extremely helpful to me.
1:08:49And I really like the idea about the website.
1:08:52I know Pam does a great job on our website, but it's deep, it's deep, and there's so much information out there.
1:09:00And if there was a way that somebody could type in a question, where do I find this?
1:09:06And very quickly, that would be super helpful.
1:09:10So I think that's something that's worth pursuing.
1:09:13Did you say it was San Jose that did that?
1:09:16Uh but there's a lot of cities that are using that technology that we encountered at the ICMA conference.
1:09:23So, you know, really, I mean, Darren, I've had discussions about this.
1:09:28I mean, it's coming like a house of fire.
1:09:31Um, and if we don't adapt, adopt, you know, then we're gonna be left behind.
1:09:37And uh, that's you know, sometimes government, you know, adopts things a little bit after the private sector, depending on not always, but sometimes.
1:09:48And I think that we have to stay, you know, out there as far in the in the front as we possibly can, you know, to become uh as efficient as we can to provide our citizens uh you know with as much data as possible uh to give us, you know, we're all busy people.
1:10:07If there's a way that you can give us assistance, so that would be my I guess challenge to us, all of us.
1:10:16I think it's great, but I think one of the other challenges that we have is to make sure that AI does not replace the human touch being able to talk to somebody, a live person.
1:10:30I agree, if they need to, if they want to.
1:10:33I get it, after I was yes, but if you you're in a we want to be able to talk to Lindsay, yeah.
1:10:39Should be able to talk to Lindsay.
1:10:42Yeah, and that's where you know, and Eric brought it up there is that you know, the the tagline about human in the loop, not only reviewing what's being put up, but still being involved in that that aspect of it.
1:10:54And I think that's also to where um you know, by us taking the opportunity to get a policy to continue to move forward that that we put the human in the lead on that aspect instead of just being in the loop.
1:11:08Is it possible even to if someone uh calls in and asks the question about something?
1:11:14Is it possible that we can go back the next day and contact that person to see if they got all the information they need to.
1:11:25A couple of the demos that Darren and I actually did live demos there at the conference.
1:11:29It's there's a transcript that is logged, uh, so the the conversations, if you will, are logged, so you can review them.
1:11:38Yeah, uh, but also kind of along that same point.
1:11:41Let's say that I called during the day and I and I got the agent, but I want to speak to the human because I don't want to speak to an agent.
1:11:48You can literally say, you know, let me speak to an agent, and it immediately routes you to a human so that you can talk to a human.
1:11:57I think uh Commissioner Henderson's points are well taken.
1:12:00I mean, we do not want to replace human beings, you know, that personal touch.
1:12:06Uh I think that's something that uh, you know, we've got a customer experience department under Lindsay's leadership.
1:12:13I think we do a great job with all the things that we do.
1:12:15We just want to make us more efficient, you know.
1:12:19So I appreciate we all appreciate the presentation and you know, and the research and work that you're doing.
1:12:28So bring us along with you.
1:12:30Bring the elected officials along with you.
1:12:34Any other questions?
1:12:38Thank you very much.
1:12:45Uh we'll close the meeting with uh start with comments from city manager.
1:12:50None this evening.
1:12:51Okay, we'll start down this way.
1:12:53Commissioner Anderson.
1:12:54If you happen to call my phone, I already have an AI assistant answering my phone calls.
1:13:01So I'm already progressive.
1:13:02Actually, it's that's a lot more courteous than the real thing.
1:13:09That was my comment.
1:13:15I walk right into it.
1:13:16Commissioner Wilson, any comments?
1:13:17If you wait long enough, he eventually answers it if he wants to.
1:13:21I think it says stay tuned.
1:13:25Say your name and stay tuned and see if he's available as well.
1:13:28She's very thorough.
1:13:31No, I don't have anything else.
1:13:32Commissioner Thomas.
1:13:33That's just one thing.
1:13:34Um, I was able to attend that soft opening at the sports park, and you know, I talked to some of the patrons that were there, and they were really enjoying it.
1:13:41Um it was a really nice facility.
1:13:43Like I'm really excited for it to be finished.
1:13:46Um, and it also got a message from a restaurant.
1:13:48I don't know if she was a manager or whatnot, but she told me how her servers they made a lot of good money because of the foot traffic in town.
1:13:55So I wish we'd had a time that we all had gone out there at the same time because I was out there posted pictures.
1:14:02I wanted to say, I was out there too.
1:14:04Uh but at a different time, you know, and I mentioned that to one of their board members this morning.
1:14:08I think that that was the decision whether or not we would wait till July, Amy, for a regular big opening or or just wonder out there.
1:14:17So I did, I saw Chaz and just kind of waved at her and gave her a thumbs up.
1:14:22There's still a lot of work today to be done with look forward to.
1:14:26I hope we can make it in July.
1:14:27But yeah, it was a great great time.
1:14:30Yeah, it sure was.
1:14:31So I I was gonna say, I think that the indirect economic, and I was sharing this with uh uh Commissioner Smith earlier.
1:14:40The estimated, and of course it's hard to get hard numbers on it, but the estimated just from this last week in indirect benefit to the uh to Paducah and McCracken County a million dollars for that those 60 teams coming in.
1:14:55You know, I also had someone say to me every weekend about boy, there's just so much stuff, you know, construction downtown.
1:15:03So I mean there really is a lot when you see some of the sidewalks have been torn up, you know, some of the the the downtown the riverfront, some of the buildings that are got uh fencing around them, but it is really progress and construction that's going on.
1:15:17So I think that's I said, but it's progress, and you know you just have to remember that when you're judging around.
1:15:23I yes, yes, they did kind of change their tune.
1:15:25I think they knew they didn't want to just keep arguing with me.
1:15:32Well, thanks everybody.
1:15:33I would uh entertain a motion to adjourn, or I s the city clerk to read a motion to adjourn, or I'll entertain a motion to enjoy.
1:15:44Commissioner Henderson.
1:15:45Commissioner Smith?
1:15:46Commissioner Thomas?
1:15:47Commissioner Wilson?