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Payson Town Council Work Study Meeting – June 3, 2025: FY 2025-2026 Budget Discussion and GO Bond for Aquatic Facility

Town Council & Planning and ZoningTuesday, June 3, 2025
BodyPayson, Arizona
SessionTown Council & Planning and Zoning
DateTuesday, June 3, 2025
StatusFILED
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3:24

Call is work study meeting of the Common Council, the town of Paison.

3:31

Uh, to order June third, twenty twenty-five.

3:38

Let the record reflect that all council members are present.

3:42

Councilmember Halls is present on Zoom.

3:52

As a result, public comment will not be taken during these meetings.

3:56

Purpose of the meeting.

4:05

Would you please start the discussion?

4:08

Thank you, Mr.

4:09

Mayor.

4:09

We actually prepared a presentation for you.

4:12

If you allow the budget team and I to uh present some information.

4:16

I think we tried to cover questions and concerns, and any changes recommended or proposed or decision point between tentative budget and final budget.

4:29

And that may uh help facilitate the conversation.

5:19

Thank you, Mayor and Council, members of the audience and staff.

5:23

This is uh discussion on how we get from our tentative budget to our final budget.

5:30

So, as you will recall, we started our budget process in February looking at the town's corporate strategic plan, council's goals and key priorities.

5:40

In March, we looked at the capital improvement project requests from all of the departments along with revenue projections that we had received at that point.

5:50

In April, we went through the personnel requests, compensation philosophy, changes for benefits, and in May, on the 6th of May, we presented expenditures, including operational enhancements, uh, one-time expenses, and presented the draft budget.

6:12

So your budget binders have in there each of the line items that are associated with operations for each of the departments.

6:22

This slide is from the May 28th special meeting where the town adopted its expenditure limitation for fiscal year 26.

6:32

Set that limit at 94 million nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars, nine hundred and seventy nine hundred and twenty-four dollars.

6:40

June third, today we are looking for further direction from you on how we allocate fund balances and operating expenditures on the next slide.

6:58

I guess so.

6:59

Can you still hear me okay if I stand off center?

7:02

Okay.

7:03

Um after the adoption of the expenditure limitation and the tentative budget, that information was published in the newspaper, and so to meet our noticing requirements and comply with our uh tax levy on June 25th.

7:18

Council is scheduled for another special meeting to adopt the final budget and hold the first hearing on the property tax levy.

7:30

This is a recap from May 28th when you adopted the tentative budget shows the expenditure limitation.

7:37

This number reflects all funds.

7:39

So that's all major funds, including general fund, water, HERF, as well as any um capital items purchased from any other non-major funds.

7:50

So as a reminder, this is a repeat of the slide that Dana had prepared, shows all of those different funds, and the fund balances within those.

8:24

Projects that were included within the HERF budget include the B-line bus route improvement project recently approved, the airport road refaving, which is currently in progress, Wilson Court construction, that is the extension of Wilson Court.

8:42

It runs next to the Humane Society now, but would extend on the east side of South McLean, provide access to the low-income housing tax credit project.

8:53

The town was awarded as well as provide access to the south side of the American Gulch Linear Park.

9:02

It includes committed funds for Longhorn Road roundabout, West Forest Drive design and Houston Mesa design.

9:14

Those two projects are for pedestrian and bicycle improvements along those two roadways.

9:21

So the portion of those projects that is paid out of HERF, the rest is funded from grants for those last those design projects on the end.

9:53

Thank you.

9:53

Um, Councilmember Ferris, Mr.

10:00

Mayor, there is an upcoming agenda item to discuss the design and um potentially allocation of the money that was awarded for this project.

10:06

It's anticipated on June 11th.

10:11

So just as a point of um clarification, however, that's allocated, either of those projects would be perfectable, and so the funding is there, the amount of funding.

10:24

So, however, that gets decided, the ability to spend that money for the improvements within the town is there right now because we have an agreement with ADOT for this particular project, it's reflected in there as longhorn roundabout.

10:44

This uh was the original slide from the tentative budget adoption for water enterprise fund.

10:51

That budget number has been increased because the um general fund budget is going to be decreased.

11:01

So phase three of the camera project, which was anticipated for FY26, the general fund portion of that is um suggested for removal from the budget before final budget adoption.

11:18

Water may still want to proceed with their surveillance cameras for the remote sites, but using a different methodology there, so they would um have the ability to independently manage that project.

11:31

So in the tentative budget, that was shown as a transfer from water to our capital improvement fund.

11:39

So that's been um transfer has been canceled, and the funding would now come directly from water.

11:47

They have a number of priority projects, as you can see.

11:51

This was the long list of CIP projects, capital improvement projects presented back in March.

11:57

And um at that time, Mr.

11:59

Henry had uh explained why they had a priority ranking on there, and that there's a lot of those projects they may not get to, depending on how the other items progress.

12:10

So, and as their staffing level allows them to make progress, but they the can't surveillance camera project would be added in addition to projects one through 13 there.

12:24

Any questions on her for water before we move on?

12:28

You've got expenditures going up from 29 million and change to 30 million, and yet with expenders going up, they're showing the fund balance increase.

12:39

Why is that?

12:41

Should the fund balance not go down if expenditures go up?

12:46

Um it's gonna be a wash.

12:56

Um, since we're taking the camera project out of fund 401, we're reducing, we're reducing that uh 200,000 that water would have paid out of 401, and it's going directly into the water fund 611.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Budget Equity Analysis██████████████████████████████30%
Personnel Matters█████████████████17%
Fiscal Sustainability██████████10%
Parks and Recreation████████8%
Capital Improvement███████7%
Public Safety███████7%
Public Engagement██████6%
Technology and Innovation███3%
Procedural██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Payson Town Council Work Study Meeting – June 3, 2025

The Payson Town Council held a work study meeting on June 3, 2025, from approximately 3:04 p.m. to 7:47 p.m. to discuss the Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Final Budget and a General Obligation (GO) Bond for a new aquatic facility. No action was taken, but the council provided direction to staff on personnel cost reductions and consensus to proceed with a GO Bond election for a covered year-round pool at Malibu.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Public comment was not taken during the work study meeting, as noted in the agenda.

Discussion Items

  • FY 2025-2026 Final Budget: Acting Town Manager Sheila DeSchaaf and Finance Director Dana Ohanesian presented the budget, highlighting a narrowing gap between revenues and expenditures. Personnel costs account for 74% of general fund spending. The council discussed hiring freezes, vacancy management, and contract employee costs (e.g., IPM and Brown & Associates). Human Resource Director Lynne O'Donnell presented a five-year personnel cost analysis, showing a 60% increase in personnel costs from FY2020 to FY2025, including 16 new public safety FTEs. Three options for personnel cost increases were reviewed: Option 1 (2.5% ECI, 2.5% merit, average 3.5-4.4% increase, saving $450,000), Option 2 (1.5% ECI, 2% merit, average 2.5-3.4% increase, saving $696,000), and Option 3 (no increases, saving $1.2 million). Council Member Ferris expressed concerns about unsustainable spending and proposed a hiring freeze. Council Member Bell questioned population growth versus service increases. Chief Stout and Commander Haines noted rising call volumes but stated crime statistics were not immediately available.

  • GO Bond Financing for Aquatic Facility: Jack Leeper of Stifel Public Finance presented bond scenarios: $7 million (uncovered pool at Rumsey/Taylor), $13 million (uncovered Malibu pool), and $16 million (covered year-round Malibu pool). The tax impact on an average home (limited value ~$228,000) for a $13 million bond was estimated at $76/year ($6.30/month). Bonding capacity was calculated at approximately $112 million based on the county assessor's 2025 net full cash assessed value of $429 million. Council Member Nossek advocated for letting voters decide, proposing a $16 million covered pool at Malibu. Council Member Ferris opposed, citing concerns about the location selection process and costs. Council Member Haws supported putting it to a vote. Town Attorney Christine Estes-Werther noted the ballot language deadline is June 6, 2025.

Key Outcomes

  • Personnel Cost Direction: Council reached consensus to adopt Option 2 for personnel cost increases (ECI 1.5%, merit 2%, saving $696,000) and to maintain a hiring freeze for non-public safety positions until the new town manager evaluates service delivery. The council also agreed to keep the existing 1% sales tax increase for now and to postpone the fire truck purchase.
  • GO Bond Consensus: Council agreed to place a $16 million GO bond on the ballot for a covered year-round aquatic facility at Malibu, with a maximum interest rate of 6%. Staff was directed to finalize the draft resolution for a special meeting to meet the June 6 ballot language deadline.
  • Next Steps: The council scheduled a special meeting to adopt the final budget on June 25, 2025, and will hold additional work sessions as needed.

Meeting Transcript

Call is work study meeting of the Common Council, the town of Paison. Uh, to order June third, twenty twenty-five. Let the record reflect that all council members are present. Councilmember Halls is present on Zoom. As a result, public comment will not be taken during these meetings. Purpose of the meeting. Would you please start the discussion? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We actually prepared a presentation for you. If you allow the budget team and I to uh present some information. I think we tried to cover questions and concerns, and any changes recommended or proposed or decision point between tentative budget and final budget. And that may uh help facilitate the conversation. Thank you, Mayor and Council, members of the audience and staff. This is uh discussion on how we get from our tentative budget to our final budget. So, as you will recall, we started our budget process in February looking at the town's corporate strategic plan, council's goals and key priorities. In March, we looked at the capital improvement project requests from all of the departments along with revenue projections that we had received at that point. In April, we went through the personnel requests, compensation philosophy, changes for benefits, and in May, on the 6th of May, we presented expenditures, including operational enhancements, uh, one-time expenses, and presented the draft budget. So your budget binders have in there each of the line items that are associated with operations for each of the departments. This slide is from the May 28th special meeting where the town adopted its expenditure limitation for fiscal year 26. Set that limit at 94 million nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars, nine hundred and seventy nine hundred and twenty-four dollars. June third, today we are looking for further direction from you on how we allocate fund balances and operating expenditures on the next slide. I guess so. Can you still hear me okay if I stand off center? Okay. Um after the adoption of the expenditure limitation and the tentative budget, that information was published in the newspaper, and so to meet our noticing requirements and comply with our uh tax levy on June 25th. Council is scheduled for another special meeting to adopt the final budget and hold the first hearing on the property tax levy. This is a recap from May 28th when you adopted the tentative budget shows the expenditure limitation. This number reflects all funds. So that's all major funds, including general fund, water, HERF, as well as any um capital items purchased from any other non-major funds. So as a reminder, this is a repeat of the slide that Dana had prepared, shows all of those different funds, and the fund balances within those. Projects that were included within the HERF budget include the B-line bus route improvement project recently approved, the airport road refaving, which is currently in progress, Wilson Court construction, that is the extension of Wilson Court. It runs next to the Humane Society now, but would extend on the east side of South McLean, provide access to the low-income housing tax credit project. The town was awarded as well as provide access to the south side of the American Gulch Linear Park. It includes committed funds for Longhorn Road roundabout, West Forest Drive design and Houston Mesa design. Those two projects are for pedestrian and bicycle improvements along those two roadways. So the portion of those projects that is paid out of HERF, the rest is funded from grants for those last those design projects on the end. Thank you. Um, Councilmember Ferris, Mr. Mayor, there is an upcoming agenda item to discuss the design and um potentially allocation of the money that was awarded for this project. It's anticipated on June 11th. So just as a point of um clarification, however, that's allocated, either of those projects would be perfectable, and so the funding is there, the amount of funding. So, however, that gets decided, the ability to spend that money for the improvements within the town is there right now because we have an agreement with ADOT for this particular project, it's reflected in there as longhorn roundabout. This uh was the original slide from the tentative budget adoption for water enterprise fund. That budget number has been increased because the um general fund budget is going to be decreased. So phase three of the camera project, which was anticipated for FY26, the general fund portion of that is um suggested for removal from the budget before final budget adoption. Water may still want to proceed with their surveillance cameras for the remote sites, but using a different methodology there, so they would um have the ability to independently manage that project. So in the tentative budget, that was shown as a transfer from water to our capital improvement fund. So that's been um transfer has been canceled, and the funding would now come directly from water. They have a number of priority projects, as you can see.

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