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Pittsburgh City Council Standing Committees Meeting - June 17, 2026

City CouncilWednesday, June 17, 2026
BodyPittsburgh, Pennsylvania
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, June 17, 2026
StatusNEW · FILED
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A month and a half old Instagram page that will just so happen to need that exact amount of street every week, no matter how few people breathe its eight-foot walls and surveillance drones that will harass neighborhood residents and demand they produce their papers just to get to their homes.

0:19

The best advertisement the organizers could offer yesterday, and I quote, we don't want it to feel like Stalog 17.

0:29

In this House of Freedom, this Temple of Liberty, the yellow-ballied, peace to lanimous pretense of an event to justify a crackdown is a sacrilege.

0:41

This council should say no to Stalog 17th Street.

0:45

Before anything else, it should protect the right of every adult to walk down their streets.

0:52

It should ban age discrimination for adults in accessing the public right of way.

0:58

I will be here every week to make sure you each know about the full adult citizens in my community that are being denied their rights in their own city.

1:09

If you do not fix this, do not ever tell me you didn't know.

1:20

There being no further registered speakers, we will now take comments from those in the audience wishing to speak.

1:38

The political faces and voices for the vulgarity and graffiti field illegal skate park in Panther Hollow.

1:45

They have justified the illegal skate park by saying our playground was not being used.

1:50

However, before any construction began, these fundamental questions should have been asked first.

2:06

Last Wednesday, when I was speaking here about this issue, Charlie began laughing and talking to the council member next to him.

2:15

These actions indicated this issue and its impact on our community don't matter.

2:21

Charlotte's actions and Warwick's continued support underscore one of the fundamental roots of this problem.

2:29

Respecting the dignity of others requires first respecting one's own dignity.

2:34

This truth can be more fully understood when taken to an extreme example.

2:40

A sociopath doesn't respect his own dignity and therefore does not respect the dignity of another.

2:47

For him, taking another person to life is no different than stepping on an ant.

2:53

When I began these testimonies, a staff member for Charling told me to back off because dozens of skateboarders came before this council in support of the skate park, whom Warwick then praised.

3:08

However, that kind of mob mentality with the support of misguided politicians never justifies wrongdoing against our community.

3:19

Five days ago, at around 8 30 a.m., I once again heard the distinct noise of skateboards crashing onto concrete while inside my home.

3:30

I went to the skate park and told the skateboarders that their noise was penetrating my home.

3:37

One of them replied to me, expressing the same attitudes of Charlin in Warwick.

3:43

He said to me, I don't care.

3:48

When politicians do not respect their own dignity, and therefore do not respect the dignity of others, support a mob mentality with all of their wrongdoings, and just don't care.

4:04

We suffer the horrific injustice of the illegal skate park with the resultant shame and moral humiliation to this council, the mayor, his administration, and the city of Pittsburgh.

4:26

Shut down the illegal skate park in Panther Hollow.

4:30

Thank you.

4:37

Next speaker, please.

4:48

Okay.

4:50

My name is Yvonne F.

4:52

Brown.

4:52

I live at 715 Mercer Street.

4:55

Um, that's in uh at the top of Beffrey.

4:58

I've been bringing this sign for years.

5:01

But I want to explain it, if I can.

5:04

Well, you have it.

5:06

Uh we were having politicians in the building.

5:08

Kaylee Rover was tires.

5:10

I didn't know it.

5:11

And as I was walking down the hall, here comes the county council.

5:16

The width Watson.

5:18

He's the beaker, a large black man.

5:21

And I said, hey, sir, you remember me?

5:23

I said, uh, I came to you because we needed the bus to go down to the bottom of the hill.

5:29

Um I said, and you didn't do anything, so he stopped and he's a loud man.

5:34

I said, are you hollering at me?

5:36

But he explained, no, I will call Pat Authority.

5:40

So he goes out the side door.

5:42

He lives across the street from me.

5:44

Okay, so as I come down further, there's a white woman at the door, and she stops me and explained that she's John DeFasio's wife.

5:54

John DeFazio was the president of Colby Council at that time.

5:59

He was running again.

6:01

And when she said it, I said, no.

6:03

I said, because the woman, the woman, I said, he's this, and he's very disrespectful.

6:08

And she said, not my John.

6:10

And I said, yeah.

6:11

So she grabbed me and she ran and we took, I'm talking to John.

6:16

She said one way, I said the other.

6:18

We're all in a bunch.

6:19

And I felt someone, I felt a president.

6:22

I looked up, that was the whip Watson.

6:24

And when we all woke around, he screamed and he was hollering at me.

6:28

I don't appreciate you telling the president of confirm me.

6:31

Well, the two, we were all shaking, and they were saying, no, no, DeWit.

6:35

She's not talking about you.

6:36

She's not talking about you.

6:38

And I ended up saying they do me like the politicians do me like this all the time.

6:42

And I walked away.

6:43

Okay, so here's the poem that I had wrote.

6:47

This was the ode to John D.

6:49

John Defazia.

6:51

Mindy said you better come back.

6:52

She hopes you'll keep your promise to come again.

6:55

She said you and your wife know how to groove.

6:58

And I think Wendy's learning some new moves.

7:01

Don't be afraid to old people seeing that frightening scene.

7:05

Boy, was the wit loud and mean.

7:08

I, Yvonne, thought you and your wife was going to have a heart attack.

7:11

The look of fright was a real setback.

7:14

But the residents of K Lee were overstarred say, hey, John, we have your back.

7:19

We won't let the wit attack.

7:22

Because if necessary, we will tie them up in the back.

7:25

And that's a fact.

7:26

So please keep your promise.

7:28

Although you are a politician who like the others give out promises that they do not keep.

7:35

They said that um, wait a minute.

7:38

Oh, but look how Perduto made um, did not consider my community.

7:46

It said that the every new police chief would go to every community.

7:50

But Paduto and Gross made the decision that didn't come.

7:56

I was almost finished, but you see what it is about.

8:00

Thank you.

8:00

Next speaker, please.

8:12

Good morning, special agent sunshine, Cherise Taylor, the missing child.

8:18

Lord, thank you for that juicy ruby red grapefruit this morning.

8:25

It was juicy, y'all.

8:26

You don't know about the red ones.

8:28

Please get one.

8:30

Peel it and just eat it.

8:32

They're very sweet this time of the year.

8:35

What are you standing on?

8:37

What y'all standing on?

8:40

If you are not standing on God's promises, you are standing on sinking sand.

8:46

Nobody else promises to supply you with all of your needs through their riches and glory in Christ.

8:53

Why?

8:54

They can't.

8:55

Only he can.

8:57

Proverbs 26 says.

9:01

Proverbs chapter 20, verse 6 says, many a man claims to have unfailing love.

9:08

But a faithful man, who can find Laval?

9:14

Our problem today is those who take an oath with God for the positions like judges or the bell's position.

9:24

President and City Council.

9:25

But take bribe money to pervert the course of justice.

9:29

Here's the message with that.

9:31

Bribe money will never pay for a funeral.

9:34

When God takes you out, not if.

9:29

When he takes you out for taking it, he sees all, he's all knowing.

9:42

So there's nothing you can do behind his back or in his face that he don't know about.

9:47

And that's one of them.

9:49

And I'm bringing this morning because we have judges and lawyers, and people in high profile positions in our government who are taking bribe money to pervert the course of justice.

10:02

And I promise you, it will be returned to Cinder.

10:06

They will reap everything they have sung to pervert the course of justice.

10:12

Proverbs 22, uh verses 22 through 23 says, do not exploit the poor because they are poor.

10:21

Because they, uh wait, do not exploit the poor because they're poor, and do not crush the needy in court.

10:29

For the Lord will take up their case and will plunder those who plunder them.

10:35

That's what's happening.

10:36

That's why I can still stand here before you, healthy, saved, celibate, and determined to change this world and make it a better place, especially for these children out here.

10:53

That's why I'm starting this project.

10:56

A night of sunshine, a day of sunshine, a day of jazz, a night of jazz with sunshine.

11:02

I need dancers, I need the little ones, them to come out.

11:06

The little ones, eight, ten, ten and younger.

11:09

I please bring them to me on the north side on Sundays between the hours of ten and one at the overizing building.

11:18

Please bring them to me in Jesus' name.

11:21

Give us aid against the enemy, oh Lord, for the help of man is worthless.

11:25

In Jesus' name, amen.

11:50

As a black woman, a mother, and someone who grew up in these neighborhoods.

12:02

I always wonder why we didn't see the veterans' pictures.

12:08

But when you drive through certain neighborhoods of Pittsburgh, you see beautiful banners lining the streets, faces of veterans, fathers, mothers, heroes.

12:18

It's powerful, it's dignified, it tells you that people that people who live there matter.

12:27

But when you come into our neighborhoods, Homewood, the Hill, Hazelwood, McKee's Rocks, Duquesne, those polls are empty.

12:37

Not because we don't have veterans.

12:39

Not because we don't have pride, not because we don't have stories worth honoring.

12:46

They're empty because we can't afford what other neighborhoods can.

12:51

In some places, families pay 70 to the more than 200 for banners that stays up for years.

13:01

In our communities, families are being charged for the $500 for less than that, because we only get six months.

13:09

And I spoke to someone that had a banner up, and it says that banners will be subject.

13:19

And she paid for a banner years ago, and um her banner was broken down before the six months after she saved up that money to get her son up there.

13:29

And that's not right.

13:30

So I created faces of freedom, Pittsburgh, because our people deserve the same beauty, the same dignity, the same visible visibility.

13:40

I'm sorry, I'll messed up today, as every other neighborhood in the city.

13:44

Our veterans deserve to shine just as bright.

13:47

Our families deserve to see their loved ones honor that priced out.

13:52

So today I ask him for the same authorization that other banner programs already have, the ability to use city owned polls so I can work with Bobby, give the permits, coordinate with UK lights, and run the program the right way.

13:59

I'm asking you to approve a resolution that allows faces of Freedom Expert to operate a mall manner program in the public right away so our communities can value have what the others already enjoy.

14:25

Give us the chance to make our streets beautiful.

14:28

Give us a chance to honor our veterans with the same respects.

14:46

Thank you.

14:47

Next speaker, please.

14:50

Are there any further speakers?

14:53

Seeing none, we will move on to our standing committee's agenda.

14:56

First committee is the Finance and Law Committee.

14:58

New papers, Bill 592.

15:01

Resolution providing for the sale of certain property acquired by the city of Pittsburgh at Tax Sales.

15:07

Items A through W.

15:09

6601 Lyric Street, Council District 9, 0 Deerie Street, Council District 9, 6929, Bennett Street, Council District 9, 234 East Elizabeth Street, Council District 5, 2369, South 18th Street, Council District 3, 716 McLean Street, Council District 3, 616 Industry Street, Council District 3, 604 Beltsuver Avenue, Council District 3, 606 Beltsuver Avenue, Council District 3, 608 Beltsuver Avenue, Council District 3, 612 Beltsuver Avenue, Council District 3, 138 Wabash Street, Council District 2, 821 Faredale Street, Council District 2, 2128 Lowry Street, Council District 1, 0 Chautauqua Street, Council District 6, 2729 Perry's Ville Avenue, Council District 6, 3622 Granada Street, Council District 1, 0 Granada Street, Council District 1, 0 Granada Street, Council District 1.

16:14

3632 Granada Street, Council District 1.

16:17

514 West Prospect Avenue, Council District 2, 516 West Prospect Avenue, Council District 2, and 520 West Prospect Avenue, Council District 2.

16:33

Motion approved.

16:35

Second.

16:36

Discussion.

16:38

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 592, please say aye.

16:42

Aye.

16:42

Aye.

16:43

Affirmative recommendation.

16:45

Bill 593.

16:47

Resolution repealing an item in resolution number 226.

16:52

Effective April 10th, 2024, in order to rescind the sale.

16:59

Motion to approve.

17:01

Second.

17:02

Discussion.

17:04

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 593, please say aye.

17:08

Aye.

17:09

Affirmative recommendation.

17:10

Bill 594.

17:12

Resolution repealing items and resolutions approved on various dates, which authorize the sale of property in various wards of the city of Pittsburgh due to an incomplete of incompletion of sale, items A through A.

17:25

223 Wick Street, Council District 6, 20 221 Wick Street, Council District 6.

17:32

750 Cherokee Street, Council District 6.

17:35

723 North Matilda Street, Council District 9.

17:38

5220 Kincaid Street, Council District 9.

17:42

5301 Broad Street, Council District 9.

17:45

5410 Kincaid Street, Council District 9.

17:48

6406 Dean Street, Council District 9, 7135 Vassar Street, Council District 9.

17:55

1116 North Mertland Street, Council District 9, 7154 Apple Avenue, Council District 9, 7220 Idawild Street, Council District 9.

18:05

640 Arlington Avenue, Council District 3, 211 Estella Street, Estella Avenue, Council District 3.

18:13

19 Lafferty Avenue, Council District 3.

18:16

401 Sylvania Avenue, Council District 3, 417 Michigan Street, Council District 3, 0 Wilhelm Street, Council District 2, 2662 Glasgow Street, Council District 2, 826 Vista Street, Council District 1.

18:29

1202 Seidel Street, Council District 1, 1406 Dixon Street, Council District 1, 514 Ferry Wood Street, Council District 2.

18:42

2108 Mazett Street Mazett Place, Council District 2.

18:46

215 Suncrest Street, Council District 3.

18:49

12 Zimmerman Street, Council District 4, and 2129, Belleville Street, Council District 4.

18:57

Motion to approve.

18:59

Second.

19:00

Discussion.

19:02

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 594, please say aye.

19:07

Aye.

19:08

Affirmative recommendation.

19:09

Bill 595.

19:12

Resolution amending resolution 270 of 2026 authorizing the issuance of a warrant in favor of Robert Mahousky and their legal counsel, Samuel J.

19:23

Cords and Associates for a single payment in 2026 in an amount not to exceed 108,296.

19:34

In full and final settlement of litigation filed in the Common Please Court of Allegheny County and the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

19:44

This is one that the law department has asked us to hold for a week.

19:52

Discussion.

19:53

Seeing none, all in favor of a one-week hold for Bill 595, please say aye.

19:58

Aye.

19:59

Bill be held.

20:00

That takes us to invoices.

20:02

Is there a motion on invoices?

20:04

Motion to approve.

20:06

Second.

20:07

Discussion.

20:08

Seeing none, all in favor of invoices, please say aye.

20:12

Aye.

20:12

Aye.

20:14

Invoices are approved.

20:16

Interdepartmental transfers.

20:17

Is there a motion?

20:18

Motion to approve.

20:20

Second.

20:21

Discussion.

20:22

Seeing none, all in favor of transfers, please say aye.

20:27

Aye.

20:28

That moves us to P cards.

20:30

Is there a motion on P cards?

20:31

Motion to approve.

20:34

Discussion.

20:36

Seeing none, all in favor of P cards, please say aye.

20:39

Aye.

20:40

Aye.

20:40

P cards are approved.

20:42

That takes us to Public Safety and Wellness Committee chaired by Councilman Cognell.

20:46

New Papers Bill 584.

20:48

Resolution authorizing the mayor, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Director of the Department of Public Safety to enter into an agreement or agreements with the Allegheny County Department of Human Services for the purpose of receiving funds to deliver professional services and to purchase operational supplies and vehicles in an amount not to exceed $800,000 for the city's Office of Community and Health and Safety to provide expanded outreach services to individuals who experience homelessness and housing instability.

21:25

Second.

21:26

Brief discussion, thank you.

21:28

Yeah, I'd like to call Laura.

21:30

Is it Laura you want to speak to?

21:32

Yeah.

21:33

You can call this.

21:34

Yeah, come on up there, Laura, if you would, please.

21:37

Oh, there's this.

21:38

Sorry, I said that while you were talking.

21:40

That's all right.

21:46

Hi there.

21:47

How are you?

21:48

Doing just fine.

21:48

How are you?

21:49

Good.

21:50

First, I want to thank you for the incredible work you did underneath the bridge.

21:55

All credit goes to my colleagues, Adam and Emily.

22:00

I don't know who else would do such a job.

22:02

So I find you to be very useful in your team, of course.

22:06

So no, no, thank you for that.

22:09

I don't really have any questions.

22:10

I think Councilman Charlotte, I will defer to if uh, would it be okay if I so my colleagues Nick and Ben are here, and I think that they're best expert to speak to this, so I'm happy to be up here.

22:22

Um they're the two.

22:28

Uh so that would be Ben Benjamin Talek and Hudson, and I'm Laura Drakowski.

22:34

Laura Dragonski, you are.

22:36

And gentlemen, if you will introduce yourself for the record, please.

22:39

Sure.

22:40

My name's Ben Talek.

22:41

I'm the program manager for the RITS program.

22:43

And my name is Nicholas Hudson.

22:45

I'm the program manager responsible for operations.

22:48

Okay, well welcome.

22:49

Uh Ben, thanks for all the work you did.

22:51

And you know, we'll get familiar with each other, but um, yeah, we go back a long way in discussing this difficult problem, and I hope to speak to you both actually today or some point soon over some other issues.

23:04

But okay, that's it for me.

23:05

Thank you.

23:07

Thank you.

23:07

Councilman Wilson, followed by Councilman Councilmember Charland.

22:59

Alright.

23:13

Will someone be able to explain what the bill is?

23:17

Yeah, do you want me to go for this?

23:20

So the uh we applied for this uh a few months ago with the the county with the Department of Human Services.

23:27

Um I think uh some of you might actually understand some of the history here even better than I do of like the need for expanding our current services into much greater hours.

23:38

Right now we work Monday through Friday, eight to four.

23:40

This is expanding us until 11 p.m.

23:43

during the weekdays, and we will be hiring a part-time shift at one to nine on the weekends.

23:47

Um basically everything Roots is doing now, just expanding those hours uh on the the mobile side on the street side.

23:54

Great.

23:54

I saw the announcement for this, so I just want to uh you know highlight this.

23:57

I've I figured this is what it was, but um so yeah, we waited this way for this for a while, at least in conversation, at least I think you know it was always it's always the combo store, you know.

24:10

Like if only PLI could get some sort of grant for this as well to go to work at nighttime.

24:17

Uh yeah.

24:19

So uh so in the in detail though, this means that we will have the same amount of uh workers working that worked during the day in the evenings and on weekends, or to some extent.

24:36

So right now we have like currently we have 16 total staff on the roots team that are uh police zone-based.

24:44

Uh this this grant in total will be hiring 10 people.

24:47

Six of those people will be full-time for Monday through Friday, the 3 p.m.

24:51

to 11 p.m.

24:52

shift.

24:52

So there'll be a slightly less amount of people on the street, um, but still have the ability to canvas the entire city.

24:59

Uh the one important note about this, really specifically for you, is that this grant, uh, if I don't know if people read the RFP, but specifically does not cover site hours.

25:09

So we won't be able to expand uh any drop-in sites with us.

25:14

So those hours may are being maintained at the same time.

25:18

Same hours that they are currently.

25:20

Okay.

25:22

So for the grant, it's 800,000 a year, and how long is the grant?

25:27

Uh currently it is one year with the opportunity to expand.

25:31

I'm sorry, to ex uh to renew.

25:33

Sorry.

25:34

What is the who typically received those funds prior to this?

25:40

So did you have something to do?

25:43

I was just going to clarify that it's actually technically not a grant, and that's for the purpose of um being respectful to our partners with the county.

25:51

We were awarded this through a competitive process.

25:55

But sorry to interrupt that.

25:57

Okay, so it's not a grant, so it's um just direct funding.

26:00

So we're on contract.

26:02

Yes.

26:02

Okay, we're on contract with the county, and the contract can it's it you know, could be renewed on an annual basis.

26:10

Okay, I understand.

26:12

Okay.

26:13

And was this are they just moving around funds because they see this as a you know it wasn't like someone was awarded the same work last year, because we maybe they did it.

26:26

Maybe there were.

26:27

I don't know.

26:28

Do you know the context of this?

26:29

Like was like other nonprofits because I know they had like three of them that they would fund, I think, approximately.

26:36

Does that mean that those three wouldn't be funded, and now the city would be funded?

26:42

So for this specific funding, the RFP went out.

26:44

There were multiple organizations that applied for it.

26:47

Two different organizations were awarded a portion of the uh I actually forget the total RFP uh award, so that the funding got split between the roots program and the bridge outreach program, which will be covering the uh rest of Allegheny County since we can only cover those city limits.

27:05

Right.

27:07

Okay.

27:08

What do you think this means for the uh the city?

27:14

Uh that's a great question.

27:16

I I I mean, I'm ex super excited first just to be able to expand all of this.

27:20

The I I don't know that people understand quite how much like the roots staff works uh way beyond their their regular hours, uh, especially on moments of extreme weather, particularly with this really harsh winter we had.

27:33

Uh so we had people pulling long hours, we had people working on the weekends just to make sure people are safe.

27:38

Uh some of these cleanup efforts that the roots team has helped.

27:42

I mean, I in particular prefer to do those after hours because you don't have to compete with rush hour traffic, which is just a minor thing.

27:49

Uh but what uh I think what I hope is um which you a lot of you have been involved in this too is like really building up a relationship with Allegheny County.

27:58

They've been such a great partner.

27:59

I think they see the value in roots.

28:01

I think this really solidifies our partnership with the county and hopefully it opens us up for more partnerships in the future.

28:07

I think that's great.

28:09

And I uh I never, you know, I'm glad you explained it the way you did and expressed your your thoughts about the the job because I never felt like the positions that were, you know, that uh do this work are nine to five positions, so it's good to know that people will be you know continue to be paid throughout throughout those hours.

28:31

So thank you for all the great work that you do and looking forward to seeing what this um yeah, how this can just help all communities.

28:38

Thanks.

28:39

Thank you.

28:40

Thank you.

28:40

Council person charlin.

28:42

Uh so great news about this.

28:45

Um I did want to ask though, are we going to be hiring more people?

28:49

Are they gonna is this gonna be personnel changes because of the expanded hours?

28:53

Is that the game plan?

28:55

Yeah.

28:55

So if I understand your question right, and please correct me if I don't.

28:59

Um the positions are entirely new, so um the ten positions that are the mix of the part-time and the full-time are in addition to the current daytime staff.

29:07

Okay, so we'll be seeing uh I'll be seeing you know additional faces in zone three.

29:15

Cool.

29:16

Yeah.

29:16

Yeah.

29:17

And council person to add, I think we have staff who would be very interested in working extended shifts.

29:23

Uh the way that our staffing is presently, and this is true for a lot of people in the city.

29:28

We don't have the ability to have straight time over time, anything.

29:32

It's a comp time approach, and we do have staff that ultimately hit the comp time uh ceiling at 144 hours, at which point any time they're working after that is uh you know, uncompensated beyond their salary.

29:47

So I think that is a another measure that you know, if in the future there were a mechanism to do that, we have a lot of people who have two jobs.

29:54

I think we'd be very interested in pairing that back to be able to be committed to doing this job fully uh for longer hours.

30:01

But that's not something that's possible at the present time, and I think that very fortunately there are a lot of really excellent professionals out there that we feel confident will be able to fill these these roles.

30:10

Right.

30:11

And I other than just extended hours, is anything functionally changing in the programming?

30:16

Just not necessarily.

30:19

Uh so I I mentioned earlier they'll be like just speaking Monday through Friday right now.

30:25

Well we'll have that uh uh expansion to into the 11 p.m.

30:29

hours.

30:30

Um everything else primarily remains the same.

30:34

There'll be a group of team, we'll have a phone number that people can call to be able to access these team quickly, uh, primarily for like uh business owners um and public safety officials, and the teams will be able to dispatch they'll be out and about in the community throughout those throughout those hours, but are really hyper mobile so people can respond to anything.

30:54

Um I really appreciate it and thanks for coming on the table.

30:57

Yeah, thank you.

30:59

Thank you.

31:00

Councilwoman Gross, followed by Councilmember Warwick.

31:04

Uh thank you for being here.

31:06

This is really great news.

31:07

I'm so grateful that we're expanding our outreach even more.

31:11

But I really like listening to all the questions at the table that they were a little in the weeds.

31:16

So maybe we should just for because it's been a few months since we've kind of like reminded the public of what all the city is doing.

31:25

And I think it's really important to remind everybody.

31:27

So maybe give us the 30-second elevator pitch or whatever.

31:31

Like they've give the the you know a summary of like what is this program that we're talking about.

31:36

Yeah.

31:36

Yeah, so well, one uh before the elevator pitch, like uh OCHS Office of Community Health and Safety as a whole uh has a whole bunch of different programs and roots really like uh intertwines with all of them.

31:51

Uh but the nitty-gritty of of the roots program, uh we were we started in 2020 as part of Allegheny Health Network.

31:59

Uh we uh I think actually Laura and the Paduta administration had seen like homeless people in general were having lots and lots of emergency calls on them when they weren't necessarily doing anything criminal in nature where they just needed a welfare check.

32:13

The roots team was designed to try to reduce the amount of engagements that that people were having with public safety when they didn't actually need those engagements.

32:21

So if somebody needs a welfare check, you can send an outreach worker.

32:24

Chances are we already know that person, we can we can bring a sec uh any any type of medical care, whether it's psychiatry, behavioral health, substance use, uh, if I didn't say medical care.

32:35

Uh we have the VA, uh we actually partner really heavily with the animal um animal welfare being human animal rescue and animal friends.

32:43

Uh one of my employees right now is actually transporting an animal to get some care at Human Animal Rescue as we speak.

32:48

Uh but the idea was making absolutely every service available to people uh as easily accessible as possible.

32:54

So people weren't walking throughout the entire county trying to find an available shelter space or find a find a doctor that would treat them.

33:03

I'm just gonna summarize that as invest the city investing in care rather than policing for people who need care that don't actually need policing.

33:13

So thank you.

33:14

I just think it's really important.

33:15

It's really it's a really big shift that we have invested in.

33:21

Um and you know, it's now a pretty large part of government here.

33:26

How many people we have in OCHS, and then roots.

33:33

Can you just remind us?

33:34

We have over 40.

33:36

Great.

33:37

So 40 people in the CHS and then the roots again.

33:42

I always forget the it's like reaching out.

33:45

Reach reaching out on the streets, yeah.

33:46

Yes, thank you.

33:47

Um so that's more particularly um for people who are outdoors, and so as a subset of OCHS, that's how many people?

33:59

Uh in all included in the number that Nick gave, but we have six sixteen of those people are are on the roots team.

34:05

Yeah, okay.

34:06

No, I think this is just again a how just a just a summary reminder.

34:10

So um, and then this is I'm just reading the title of the bill.

34:14

It talks about operational supplies and vehicles.

34:17

So if that were like uh if it's a one-year thing that needs to be reapplied for, would be I can I can imagine like okay, we've like run out of the operational supplies, but what the vehicles are they still there?

34:31

Are they leased?

34:32

Or like how does the uh do they go away after a year?

34:34

Like how does that work?

34:38

So the vehicles we will um go through a process to purchase and uh for context.

34:45

I work with a number of our uh our portfolio of state and federal grants, so typically we will work with a specific funder per their roles of retaining the vehicle or uh disposition process, um, given that the Office of Community Health and Safety has generally and successfully strived to purchase all of our fleet via non-city funds through a lot of state and federal grants.

35:10

Um we would certainly uh make sure that we would go through the process for this funder as we do with other grants that approach sunsets to retain that equipment.

35:22

Oh, so we might have to give it back, and so you're gonna have to figure out how to retain them.

35:26

So I don't think I'm following this is like a fuzzy area that I'm not understanding, I think.

35:33

Sorry.

35:33

Yeah.

35:34

Um sorry if I'm not articulating it.

35:37

Um efficiently.

35:38

So I want to be respectful to our partners at the county regarding their procurement process and any process that that they might have.

35:47

But I also think that I want to highlight that um in the RFP, the option to renew is um indicated based on the performance of the proposer.

35:58

And I think one of the reasons that we were able to successfully receive this award is because of the amazing work that the Roots team that we currently have um does.

36:07

It's really thanks to the staff who do this already every single day.

36:10

And I think that it's also based on the fact that through Ben and the efforts of so many of our other staff, we've been able to build a really strong relationship with our partners at the county.

36:21

So um I think that there would be a process that we would have to go through and investigate with the county at the end of the one year if this were not to continue, but I feel very optimistic based off of the amazing work that our staff have done that that we're very well positioned in order to continue this into the future.

36:41

Okay I can I'm satisfied with that for now.

36:43

I mean I I we also do direct contracts for services.

36:48

So I can imagine you know if we were doing um an almost million dollar contract with someone and vehicles were purchased we we would think those were our vehicles.

36:58

So I mean this you know I'm I'm I'm content that the it's kind of a co-government thing that we're gonna work out and figure out um the best way to provide the services right between the county government and the city government we're just trying to provide the services so I I'm I'm not quibbling with that here.

37:17

I'm just I was just confused.

37:19

And so in the 800 thousand dollars it doesn't really list oh no it is professional services as well so this is also um uh staffing it's covering part of the operational costs for the okay yep I got it now I just kind of had missed that part and I thought it was just about for hard costs but it's also soft costs okay those are all my questions thank you ma'am chair thank you Councilmember Warbeck.

37:44

Um yeah thank you this is great news I'm excited for you all um so when when folks I mean we uh in my district we don't have too many folks who are unhoused or whatever but we do um the oftentimes we'll get folks who are panhandling who may or may not be on house right they're just pay and um uh and we get calls occasionally you know about that sometimes in the Squirrel Hill Business district there's uh a few folks in Hazelwood um so if if someone calls nine one one I mean now that now that the hours will be expanded if someone calls 911 does that get routed to you like to your team how does that work?

38:28

Uh specifically speaking for the roots team no uh it is uh currently up to so we are not connected to police radio so it is currently up to officer discretion who's receiving the call to physically call one of the roots team members uh that's how we have operated since the beginning um one of the great things about I mentioned like all these other uh programs in the office we do have the co-response team um which their press releases in an hour uh to announce the the relaunching of the program um but they are connected to police radio and so during the day those calls can be routed directly to our team uh to to the office I should say during the night that is going to be a work in progress.

39:09

Okay.

39:10

So um oh did you want to add something go ahead I wanted to say I think you're honing in on something though that we're also pretty focused on we don't want this to be a situation where people have to have kind of the insider baseball perspective to know who needs to be who they need to call to get the right response in any given environment.

39:26

So that's something that we're focused on understanding both from a communication perspective to our partners in public safety who's on at any given shift at any given time what are the resources that are available but also we have had some great success from some of our colleagues with dispatch and we'd like to get to a point where there's both a dispatchable opportunity for the right response but also that our partners across public safety council government know how to get a hold of us whenever needed and so I think we're we're trying to figure out what that looks like logistically since we have a lot of specialization across the department.

39:57

So I'm glad you mentioned it and I hope we can update you on something clearer very soon.

40:01

Yeah that would that would be great and I mean I know for myself you know there's a few sort of you know small cast of characters they know who they are you know so if I call 911 I know to be very specific right about what what I'm calling about but maybe that would be helpful too for the public just in the interim.

40:20

Do you know what I mean like if you are calling about someone who isn't actually harming anyone or doing anything you're just worried right about their well-being to be very clear about that in your 911 call and then that way it gets to the right folks.

40:36

Yeah.

40:37

Okay.

40:37

That's it.

40:38

Great news all around.

40:40

Yeah.

40:40

Thank you.

40:41

Are there questions, Councilman Mosley?

40:43

Yeah I'm thank you for uh for being here and thank you for the the work that you do um uh my first question is uh one first of a comment is, you know, this is, you know I'm you know, really exciting news, and you know, always good to see you, Ben.

40:59

Thank you for all the work that you do with my office considered uh particularly around um, you know, the challenges that we have at the Homewood Avenue, uh, Frankstown Avenue corridor, and I guess that'll lead um my line of questioning today.

41:17

Um, you know, one of the things that, and you know, thank you for going on that walk with uh my my chief of of staff.

41:24

Um do you see um you know this added capacity uh that we have, you know, um, given the primary issue around the the unhouse also assist us um in uh and not only is like supporting them but then identifying those structures, you know, in the community that that become a hotbed uh for for squatting.

41:50

Um and like have you given that much thought and how, you know, in particular um the folks from the roots program uh you know can work with our offices as well as PLI, um, you know, to identify those structures and in in neighborhoods that become hotbeds because we're seeing kind of an uptick in that um, you know, as we focus on the Homewood Avenue, Frankstown Avenue Corridor uh on the parallel streets as you go north toward Lincoln Lemmington, there's more activity in in those vacant buildings.

42:18

Yeah.

42:19

Yeah, I think there's a there's a few angles to this that I that I see with the current team and this expansion.

42:26

Uh so you mentioned PLI.

42:28

Uh our uh PIN's team, persons in need of support actually set up a monthly standing meeting with PLI that Roots attends, and they uh I think we share information both ways about information we have on like squatter properties and increase in uh squatting in various locations.

42:46

Um we saw quite a considerable increase in people uh taking residence and abandoned properties uh last summer and the summer prior.

42:55

Uh the other the other thing, particularly with the Homewood area that we've been talking a lot about, which I think this is where this partnership with the county is going to be very valuable, is uh just what Roots is seeing.

43:09

We are physically boots on the ground and being able to advocate this is what we're seeing in this area and this is what's needed.

43:15

I think you probably know there was a shelter in Homewood.

43:18

I just talked to my team about this a couple days ago.

43:20

There was a shelter right in Homewood on Hamilton Avenue that closed a little over a year ago, I believe.

43:25

Uh that team has had very significant challenges getting people to access shelter outside of the Homewood area since that shelter closed because people who are homeless in the area are from the area and don't necessarily want to leave.

43:37

We've been able to get people physically into shelter, but typically they leave after a couple days just to come back to the Homewood area.

43:43

So we want to continue to be able to advocate.

43:45

This is what we're seeing, this is where how many squatters we're aware of, this is how many people we know are rough sleeping on the street, and hopefully be able to advocate for getting more shelter spaces in in the area where they're gonna be utilized again.

43:57

And if you could talk a you know a little bit about uh more about the partnership with the county, which I think um, you know, is is a really positive you know development.

44:06

I think it's something that you know we all I'm sure, you know, uh have to put our civic education hats on when we talk to our constituents about you know, cities of the second class and counties of the second class, and then you know, the unicorn, which is Philadelphia city and county, and and how all that that works, how you know before uh the creation uh of roots and OCHS, you know, the city of Pittsburgh didn't do any thing that could even uh remotely um be described as social services, you know, and even that you know, is limited just because of state statutes in our designation as as as a city of of the second class.

44:44

So you could you talk a little bit about this partnership with the county and then what we can do uh around this table to continue to support that because you know we do have a department of human services, which many do not know.

44:55

Um that one department has um a larger budget than the entire city.

45:00

And you know, so that's really you know uh the part that we have to lean on when we talk about these challenges that folks face in the neighborhoods around the city and they call our offices wanting us to do something, but really, you know, that partner um that we really need to bring to the table is the department of Human Services.

45:15

If you could talk a little bit about that and um the progress that you've made and how we can support that continued progress because we know to address the challenges that we have in our city with the folks who are most vulnerable from that perspective, uh, you know, we we need to have active partnership with the Department of Human Services.

45:32

Yeah, I I completely agree.

45:34

I uh and please if you have something uh offer, please jump in.

45:38

But uh one of the things I've been working with like uh in partnership with the county at many previous uh places of employment I've had.

45:48

I think my work with uh with council is still fairly new.

45:51

So I I think I'm still trying to figure out exactly uh how to utilize you to all of your great powers.

46:00

Um but I I know we've seen some changes within the homeless system, particularly from council person and having his post-agendas with Aaron Dalton, uh the former director of DHS uh and and some of their other crew that was joining that uh when I uh MSBK.

46:20

There's a lot of some of them.

46:22

It has been a minute.

46:23

They have a new director now, so um but I I mentioned before, I think one of the biggest um uses for all of this is going to be the advocacy piece and and bringing uh awareness to what we're seeing.

46:38

Uh we've been very successful that with that in the increase of shelter capacity at Second Avenue Commons.

46:44

Um both uh our team lead for downtown Tim uh Laura and myself stayed out quite late after the winter shelter closure and uh immediately called the the current director, acting director uh uh Jetka to talk about the need for increased capacity.

47:00

Uh after that conversation, he did increase capacity uh almost triple uh what they what they had initially envisioned for that space.

47:08

Uh I do think that was directly because of our advocacy in that uh our the Roots team is actually also having heavy involvement if people weren't aware uh leadership for Second Avenue Commons is transitioning from Pittsburgh Mercy over to uh the uh the the county.

47:24

Um the roots team is uh training all the new employees.

47:28

They've been involved in the hiring process, and I think that just uh really highlights the the trust that our team has built with the county and I hope to continue that and be able to involve you guys in that going forward.

47:40

Yeah, thank you.

47:40

And and and my last question is just if you could talk, you know, a little bit about the kind of uh, you know, the one the intersection of of issues, you know, because you know, a lot of times, you know, we just look at down house and you know and housing instability, but you know, we have found in in our ongoing work over the last year around the um the homewood Frankstown uh working group that that we convene, you know, is that and I think you alluded to in some of your comments earlier is you know um, you know, we're seeing drug addiction, you know, you know, mental health um and obviously you know um some of the some of the criminal activity um you know that that's also um you know associated with it once we could kind of talk about kind of the the issues that kind of stack on because we're not really just addressing uh homelessness and unhoused, you know, I mean we're addressing like a myriad, um, you know, of challenges and then some of the best practices, because sometimes we get calls, you know, from constituents or even in some cases community leaders, like, well, you should just you know, you just pull up a van and you know, just sweep the block and just throw everybody, you know, in a van and you know and take them somewhere.

48:53

Um, you know, can you talk about kind of you know um what are the best practices to really have long term solutions because we can, you know, pull up a bus and you know, throw a whole bunch of unfortunate people onto a bus and take them to some undisclosed location.

49:10

Um, it's been tried before, not by us.

49:13

You know, and um, you know, and and yeah, you know, people come out on the block and no one's out there.

49:17

But you know, if you could talk about, you know, why uh you take the approaches that you take and you know why it's so hard to do things that actually are meaningful and significant and actually give folks on a path um to turn their lives around and and improving their lives.

49:31

I think that would be helpful because, you know, I know my office gets a lot of feedback on well, why don't you just run out there and, you know, probably take an approach that we might have seen in the nineteen seventies or eighties, um, but not one that you know, science and studies have shown is the most not only the holistic and humanistic, but also the most effective way to, you know, to deal with these kind of problems.

49:54

Yeah, I uh I'll try not to ramble too much on this one.

49:57

Uh I have a lot of thoughts to start.

50:02

Uh I I a little bit about my background.

50:05

I I had no intention on ever really getting into this field long term.

50:09

I actually started as a volunteer back in 2010 before I was hired in 2013.

50:14

Uh one of the things that kept me in here was to to actually see the uh amount of suffering that people have while existing on the street.

50:22

Uh that's only made so much worse by the community, the general housed community that doesn't understand what people are going through.

50:30

Uh I had seen early on in my career people showing up to her office with feet that were covered in blood because they had been handed a uh a form by somebody that's like here's all the available shelters, go to them and you'll get a bed.

50:43

And so somebody would physically walk to McKeesport because they didn't have money to get on a bus and then walk from McKeesport after they were told they didn't have a shelter down to down to the north side to try their shelter over to East Liberty to try another shelter.

50:56

Um this had been happening so much, and I I you can't just hand somebody a piece of paper and expect that all of these services are just gonna do whatever they can to pick people up and and help them through the system.

51:09

Uh people can't reliably just walk into a shelter and get a bed, which I don't I'm not blaming the shelter system at all.

51:15

I just think we didn't need a better capacity if somebody's told there's if somebody's standing downtown and you ask a random person and say, Oh, I know of this great shelter in McKeesport, they helped me out and they walk all the way to McKeesport and find out they don't have a bed, they're kind of out of luck.

51:29

Uh it's the same thing with the hospital uh some of the hospital systems is we have people willing to get treatment, walk in, but they're told there's gonna be a several month wait.

51:37

Somebody wants substance use treatment, there's not a guarantee that they're gonna have a bed in the substance use treatment uh any of the facilities today, and sometimes it's a several weeks wait.

51:47

Uh what we've done is bring a group of people together.

51:51

We do not put an emphasis on uh educational background for the people that we hire.

51:56

We do we have found that people who have had some relation to this work and are able to relate to people on the street are the ones who have been most successful, uh the ones who can actually spend the time, build relationships with people, gain the trust of people, and then be able to physically walk through the door of a shelter or a hospital or a drug treatment facility and advocate for people's needs.

52:20

Um we have filmed uh, not filmed, geez.

52:24

Uh we have formed uh lots and lots of partnerships throughout the entire continuum.

52:29

People, I think what you're getting at too is uh uh people typically who are experiencing homelessness have uh touched uh nearly every system, uh like uh ones that I've mentioned mental health, substance use, the justice system, and so all of these outreach workers end up becoming like the basically jack of all trades and hope hopefully master of more than none.

52:51

Uh and we've now formed relationships with Allegheny Health Network, partly thanks to us actually being employed by them for uh almost three or three years before we moved over to the city.

53:02

So we still twice a week have uh one of their physicians who actually runs their uh center for addiction medicine.

53:08

He comes out on the street and is able to like directly help people who are interested in substance use treatment.

53:14

Uh we work very closely with uh one of their psychiatrists uh who's also able to come outside and and connect with people that way.

53:22

Uh I mentioned animal care earlier and like bringing those people.

53:26

We have veterinarians that physically come on the street with us.

53:29

So actually being able to form these relationships and and uh introduce people, be do the like uh uh what we just call the warm handoff and be like, this is a person I can trust, you can trust them too.

53:41

I'll be here through your appointment, I'll be here through your intake, I'll help you with whatever you need to help with.

53:46

And we're not gonna leave until you actually get access to what you're looking for.

53:50

Um that's what I think is most important about this program.

53:53

Thank you.

53:54

Briefly, if I can add, I think um what we see from all of our colleagues is that people do make progress in the direction that they want to, right?

54:03

Things get better for people, they get healthier, they get safer, but that the public generally sees, you know, some people on a recurring basis, but more often than not, just a constant flow of people who are visible.

54:14

And I think Council President Wilson in particular and probably councilperson Charlotte are hearing about this from their constituency, which we understand.

54:23

Um, and so I think that the challenge is that our teams can be incredibly, you know, successful by whatever designation that is, but that there's an ongoing number of people who have these unmet needs, and and there's a bit of like a cursive competence.

54:29

The better our team does, the more people are gonna I think continue to work with them, which is good.

54:41

So there's there's just a few things that I think have been really profoundly important that have been difficult.

54:46

One in particular, again, councilperson Wilson is very well aware of this.

54:49

This delicate balance is we need a place to meet people, um, and yet it is really difficult for the communities that surround those those places.

54:57

And I I don't, I I wish we had a very simple answer.

55:00

NIMBY is real.

55:01

The the benefit that the services have also has some some drawbacks as you try to develop a business district and and make sure that your community members have what they need across the board because health and safety just applies to everyone.

55:13

Um so I think that finding a place for people to go, and Ben oversaw the downtown site has a profound benefit.

55:19

And when we look at some of the challenges that that are occurring on Frankstown, um, some of those individuals need a place to be that would be inside that would be dignified there.

55:28

They could get meals where they could get something, you know, warm or cold, depending on what they need.

55:33

Um so having a physical location can sometimes alleviate or ameliorate some of those challenges.

55:38

But of course, the the flip side of that is the is that the communities raises concerns about drawing a population of people in, and I think that's gonna have to be like an ongoing conversation we figure out how to address, but it does mean that when police find someone, they can, you know, who needs that help, they can bring them to us uh when EMS does, when fire does, when partners do.

55:57

So that does create some mechanism for us to do that.

56:00

I think the second thing is we're here to try to help in any way we can to create that balance with you too.

56:05

Because I think that this is an incredibly compassionate group of people who want to see all of the residents healthy and safe, and that means not compromising for anyone, which is a very difficult problem to tackle.

56:16

So we appreciate you know, Chief Staff Turner and your staff's team on the uh time on this, and you know, we want to be more responsive, and I think adding to these teams will help us to do so.

56:26

Um, yeah, so thank you.

56:28

Thank you.

56:29

Yeah, thank you for joining us today and thank you for your work.

56:32

I look forward to continuing to work with you.

56:33

Thank you, madam chair.

56:35

Thank you.

56:35

Any further discussion?

56:37

I want to thank you, the next person to thank you for all of your work and congratulate you on this award.

56:43

I know you'll put it to very, very good use.

56:46

So, or this uh this contract.

56:48

Apologies, trying to use the right language.

56:51

Um there being no further discussion, all in favor of Bill 584, please say aye.

56:57

I affirmative recommendation.

57:00

Thank you.

57:05

587.

57:06

Councilwoman Gross, would you prefer to read the next two bills together?

57:10

Yes, please, thank you.

57:12

Bill 587, ordinance amending ordinance number 11 of 2026, effective May 14th, 2026 entitled ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh Code Title 4, public places and property, by adding Article 9, use of city-owned or operated spaces, chapter 495, prohibiting immigration enforcement in city-owned or operated spaces to update the article number to 19 from 9, and Bill 588, ordinance amending ordinance number 12 of 2026, effective May 14th, 2026, entitled Ordnance Amending and Supplementing the Pittsburgh Code Title 4, Public Places and Property by adding Article 9, use of city owned or operated spaces, chapter 495, protecting community spaces to update the article number to 19 from 9.

58:11

Motion to approve brief discussion.

58:15

I will be fair to this one, too.

58:16

Yes, thank you all.

58:18

This is like one of the most classic scriveners' errors you can imagine.

58:21

So, as the clerk read, it was changing it to 19 from 9, and those are in Roman numerals.

58:27

So, in some place in all of the emails of the drafts back and forth, and again, thank you to the law department for helping us.

58:33

Um, it uh was uh the typo is instead of um being X1 X, which is 19 in Roman numerals, it was just one X.

58:45

So an X was dropped.

58:47

So we're just changing the chapter numbers um from nine to nineteen from nine.

58:52

So that's that's it.

58:53

That's the role of the changes.

58:55

You have further discussion.

58:58

Seeing none, all in favor of bill five eighty, bills five eighty seven and five eighty-eight.

59:03

Please say aye.

59:04

Aye.

58:59

Affirmative recommendation that moves us to public works and infrastructure committee chaired by councilwoman Salon Netro.

59:11

New papers bill five ninety-one resolution providing for a reimbursement agreement or agreements with Verizon Pennsylvania LLC for costs associated with the city steps project where Verizon Pennsylvania LLC would be responsible responsible for paying 100% of the actual expenses involved in certain work to be described in the agreement at an amount not to exceed $6,500.

59:40

Motion to approve.

59:43

Discussion.

59:44

Councilwoman Gross.

59:46

I would like uh just a description of what this is because anything that has city steps in it catches my attention.

59:53

Thank you.

1:00:03

Good morning, everybody.

1:00:04

Jeff Scalikan, director for Domi.

1:00:06

Um, this is our federal uh funded city set projects that we've been here a couple times to talk about.

1:00:11

Um these are the steps with the five locations for um they are 56th Street, Potomac Avenue, Clarehaven Street, Dixon Street, and Ottawa Street.

1:00:21

Um this particular bill is for um there's several Verizon um facilities on Potomac Avenue, and this is to um relocate those facilities while we are in construction for the steps.

1:00:35

So they have like polls and wires, yes.

1:00:38

Oh, so we have to have an agreement with um the utilities, and there's another one coming out um with um councilman Mosley's district for pen um water for the same thing to me.

1:00:50

So we have to go separate contracts for every project and it's only temporary removal.

1:00:56

No, it'll this will be permanent removal because we're gonna when we do the steps, we're gonna put it outside the so the polls will be a little bit outside of the steps.

1:01:05

But like in the same general, it's not like suddenly somebody else's steps are gonna have a poll that didn't use to have a poll.

1:01:11

No, people will still have their verizon.

1:01:13

Yes, that's that's also important, right?

1:01:15

To weigh the two things for sure.

1:01:17

Um then they pay for the whole 6,500 themselves, so we do the work and they just reimburse us.

1:01:23

Okay, got it.

1:01:24

Thank you.

1:01:25

Appreciate it.

1:01:27

Thank you.

1:01:27

Thanks for the explanation.

1:01:28

Further discussion.

1:01:31

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 591, please say aye.

1:01:35

Uh-huh.

1:01:35

Affirmative recommendation.

1:01:37

Thank you.

1:01:37

Land use and economic development committee.

1:01:39

Councilman Wilson.

1:01:41

Supplemental new papers, Bill 609, ordinance amending the Pittsburgh Code, Title IX, Zoning Code, Article 1, Introduction and Establishment, Section 902.03, zoning map to rezone parcels 1 P 28, 29, 36, 40, 40-1, 40-102, 40-103, 40-104, 54, 42, 43, 44, and 4B 1301 from the GPRA grand view public realm subdistrict A to RMU residential mixed use and to amend the height map for those parcels in the Mount Washington neighborhood.

1:02:27

Motion is send the planning commission for report and recommendation.

1:02:30

Second discussion.

1:02:32

Seeing none, all in favor of bill six oh nine, please say aye.

1:02:37

Aye.

1:02:38

Affirmative uh bill will be sent to planning commission for report and recommendation, deferred papers.

1:02:43

Bill 481.

1:02:45

Resolution approving a conditional use application under the Pittsburgh Code, Title IX Zoning, Article 5, Chapter 911, Section 91104A 64 to Passport Academy Charter School applicant for authorization to operate a school, elementary or secondary, use at 1835 Forbes Avenue, block and lot 11 J 56 zoned UPRB, Uptown Public Realm District B, First Ward, council District Number six.

1:03:20

Motion to approve.

1:03:23

Discussion.

1:03:25

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 481, please say aye.

1:03:29

Aye.

1:03:30

Affirmative recommendation.

1:03:33

Bill 8.

1:03:29

Ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh Code Title 7 Business Licensing Article 7 Service Businesses.

1:03:43

Adding a new chapter 768 short-term rental housing.

1:03:48

Motion to hold six weeks.

1:03:52

Discussion.

1:03:53

Seeing none, all in favor of a six-week hold for bill eight, please say aye.

1:03:58

Aye.

1:03:59

Bill be held.

1:04:01

Bill 564.

1:04:03

Ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh City Code Title 4, Public Places and Property, Article 7, City Rail City Real Realty by Amending Chapter 454 to update Pittsburgh's Adopt a Lot Program.

1:04:19

Motion to approve.

1:04:20

Second discussion.

1:04:23

Councilman Gross.

1:04:25

Yes.

1:04:25

Can we have our planning um friends up here?

1:04:30

We had a meeting yesterday about this and the bills that we haven't read yet.

1:04:36

So if the chair's indulgence, we can just discuss all of the bills that are coming up in Councilman Norwick's committee as well.

1:04:55

Thank you all.

1:04:56

Could you introduce yourselves for the record with your names and titles?

1:04:59

Sure.

1:04:59

Andrew Dash, Deputy Director of City Planning.

1:05:01

McKenzie Pluskovic, Senior Planner, City Planning.

1:05:04

Isabella Grace, Principal Environmental Planner, City Planning.

1:05:08

Thank you all.

1:05:09

And again, I appreciate all of the work.

1:05:11

As Councilman Clock I wasn't here last week, and I expressed my enthusiasm for this kind of what I see as a really kind of next step as we continue over the course of the last 10 years at least to like expand our city resources time and investment in both the space but also personnel and resources to help people grow food from everywhere from allotment gardens, which are the ones where like you're leasing a little plot and like taking the food home when you grow it, to over the last five years, we've had an increase in my district that I know of of collective gardens where neighbors are using sometimes city property, sometimes not, having volunteer nights, growing uh food, and donating the food to our hungry households.

1:06:06

We've had one in Lawrenceville for a very long time on not city property, um, the Lawrenceville Organic Garden, where all of the food is donated to Lawrenceville Hungry Households, and um we also have one in Polish Hill since the pandemic that we've been supporting in my office that donates all of the food to um I think it's Tibeleag Kitchen.

1:06:30

My sorry, some blank development.

1:06:34

And these are uh a different model because you could just go at the collective gardens just volunteer there for like for you know an hour of your life, and maybe number two of again, but there are garden leads and stewards who you know we've got like serious growing plans, like entire like farm production.

1:06:55

I've got some people who were previously professional farmers who are the gardeners on public property um now and who are planning out um productivity and working with city staff to get technical assistance and supplies.

1:07:08

Um, and so that's just that's a little bit of the background.

1:07:13

I know councilman called has other things he wants to talk about, but why don't you refresh us since we talked about it last week?

1:07:17

Kind of like give us the the kind of um overview again.

1:07:22

Sure.

1:07:22

Uh so this package of bills is really to uh provide reform to the stewardship programs the city offers.

1:07:28

Um, you know, one of those being the adopt a lot program, which now has been in existence for 10 years, um, you know, which is a temporary reuse of uh vacant properties uh initially for gardening purposes.

1:07:41

We are expanding uses, that's the main difference between uh in this update.

1:07:46

Um, you know, then uh formalizing the greenways program.

1:07:50

The greenways program has been in existence since 1980, but at the same time uh has been where we have gone to city council to designate a greenway with a singular steward that has been a community steward.

1:08:01

We are using this uh to allow us to get into, you know, kind of more detailed agreements with either community organizations uh with citywide nonprofits or others uh to be able to expand the opportunities for stewardship and make it easier for people to steward or even or volunteer in these spaces.

1:08:22

Um then we are also creating a city farms garden program, which is using underutilized uh spaces within the city's parks and greenways uh for uh urban agriculture, food forestry, or other similar types uh you know of uses um that are able to have longer-term leases than things like our adopt a lot process, you know, and program do.

1:08:46

Um then we are getting a small grant uh to do uh to work for which we got from the open space institute uh to do some targeted acquisition, you know, because although people see these city, the these hillsides across the city and they think the city is the owner of all of those properties uh in reality.

1:09:06

There is very mixed ownership, um a lot of long-term tax delinquent or abandoned properties that are not under the city's ownership in those spaces.

1:09:16

And so using that small grant, you know, it is our intent to try to go through and understand where there might be places for targeted acquisition through things like the treasure sale or the sheriff's sale process, uh, dependent on the parcel.

1:09:28

Uh and the last piece of legislation is really in coordination with that garden program, which is uh changing some language in the city code to allow for removal of uh things from city parks and greenways.

1:09:43

Um, you know, this this works for two purposes.

1:09:45

One for the garden program.

1:09:47

So if people are growing food, they're actually able to take the food off site and donate it, sell it, whatever it is that they're looking to do.

1:09:55

Um, but this also, you know, was done in coordination with city forestry who have um, you know, have looked for something similar relative to a lot of their work on tree maintenance and uh, you know, in this in the city's parks and greenways, and the ability for folks to take that away for other purposes.

1:10:18

I turned my mic off, sorry.

1:10:19

Um, so um thank you for bringing up the agroforestries.

1:10:23

I mentioned last week.

1:10:24

So we again we've had like these, you know, five years ago, the city just had these like allotment gardens.

1:10:29

We had four of them.

1:10:30

And those were the only things that the city really put any energy or effort into, you know, fencing or wood chips or something like that.

1:10:38

Um so that was four, and they're on city property, and they were kind of like DPW controlled.

1:10:43

The ones in my district have, I have two out of the four.

1:10:47

Have hundreds of people on the wait list.

1:10:50

We just cleaned up the wait list from for one of them by like working through and like contacting people on the wait list.

1:10:56

And some of them literally, this is a quote.

1:10:59

No thanks, you can take my name off.

1:11:01

My kids grew up and left home.

1:11:03

That's how long they were on the wait list.

1:11:06

You can take my name off now, right?

1:11:08

It's been like 10 years that I've been waiting for a plot and this allotment garden.

1:11:12

Um, uh I always am curious why the camera like doesn't even I'm like not even on camera at all.

1:11:21

Just FYI City Channel.

1:11:24

It used to be the back of the heads, but okay, maybe the cameras aren't working in the front.

1:11:28

Um, so um we have expanded those um programs, I think, by not the specific sites.

1:11:38

Thank you.

1:11:39

Um, not the specific four sites, although I do think there is uh this is would not be in this program, but I think there is still a need for the kind of city managed sites where you you're only responsible for your leased plot.

1:11:54

Um, and then we've also seen citizen-led expansions of these other ones that I was talking about, the collective gardens.

1:12:03

Um since the pandemic, um, I want to say there's been a real increase of interests in agroforestry and food forests, which aren't exactly the same thing, and I have to rely on my staffers to give me the exact difference.

1:12:17

Um, but we have um added some in my district alone, multiple sites on mostly city property, over 200 native Western Pennsylvania edible foods, mostly nuts and berries.

1:12:34

So trees and shrubs.

1:12:29

People are now moving on to ground cover and flowers.

1:12:50

Sunflower that's a small flower, gets six feet tall, but you eat the tubers, and at the grocery store, they're called Jerusalem artichokes.

1:12:58

So but it's a it's a native flower in our region.

1:13:10

Is native to our area, the black elderberry is what you make the syrup out of.

1:13:15

And it just, I can tell you I've got one in my yard, it just spreads.

1:13:18

You have to like hack it back.

1:13:19

Um it's very easy to grow.

1:13:21

Um persimmons, pawpaws, are enthusiastic.

1:13:27

Um residents are very enthusiastic about them.

1:13:31

I think we've probably planted just alone again in the gardens and greenways near me, 50 pawpaws.

1:13:37

Um, and certainly there were some planted um early on.

1:13:40

I always want to give a shout out to Duncan Parklet, which council members always hear me say is one of the favorite um sites in my district.

1:13:48

It was entirely citizen-led and envisioned to be transforming what we used to call totlots, like the little kid playgrounds that are tucked into a corner of a residential area into uh you know, a different, a more naturalized space for kids, in that it has a food forest, and there's um not just natives, like pawpaws, um, but also other kinds of orchard fruits like pears.

1:14:13

Um so berries, um, blueberries, high bush, low bush, blueberries, um, I think there's something called nanny berries that we've planted.

1:14:22

There's uh viburnums, there's a variety of native, yeah.

1:14:28

This is like bioremediation.

1:14:30

In our forests, instead of having invasive vines and knotweeds that are unhealthy for our region and kill our trees and ruin our hillsides, sometimes causing landslides, um, we can remediate, but also have part of that remediation be edible um landscapes as well.

1:14:52

So, anyway, it's a it's a very exciting program.

1:14:55

Um I know that the enthusiasm is spreading, so I'm gonna um turn it over to Councilman Coghill, because I really want him to tell the story about his sites.

1:15:04

And I will tell you the backstory.

1:15:05

When I was first telling stories like this about seven or eight years ago, when was the last time you when you were first elected?

1:15:11

And you sat over on this nine years ago when you sat on this side of the table, you were not enthusiastic about these things.

1:15:17

In fact, you were off microphone mocking me and teasing me about these projects.

1:15:22

But um, so with that background, I'll hand it over to Councilman Coghill.

1:15:26

Councilman McConko.

1:15:28

Thank you, Madam Chair, and uh thank you, Councilwoman Gross, and uh and thank you for meeting with us yesterday.

1:15:35

You know, we originally, my office through the help of I'm sorry about that, through the through the help of Councilwoman Gross's office, started looking at um, you know, placing uh these lots that were attached in parks or close to next to greenways and making them part of the greenways.

1:15:50

Number one, giving them off our list, long list of so-called abandoned lots that really aren't useful, but um so yeah, I will credit Councilwoman Gross for getting me involved in the gardening community and the growing community and um and introducing me to the enthusiasm and really the excitement around uh when I see these neighborhood groups.

1:16:17

She spoke of Duncan Park, which is amazing.

1:16:20

I went through the tour, we're there, so so that kind of inspired me, and we talked about you know planting a um orchard, which I believe you all were at.

1:16:30

And we are now probably gonna wrap up phase three of that, which we'll have 70 plus trees of all native, you know, types and designs.

1:16:41

Councilwoman Gross could probably rattle them off, but I know we have pawpaws and berries, lots of berries and stuff like that, you know.

1:16:47

So I was not a gardener, uh, you know, and never claimed to have a green thumb, but what I did see was again the community, how they were interested in it and took to it.

1:16:57

So I love the idea.

1:16:59

I I feel like you explained it well to us yesterday.

1:17:03

I was um you know, just unclear about some certain things, but just to reiterate some things that were said, providing spaces for would be gardeners and you know, people who want to adopt a space.

1:17:16

We will be providing free leases, which is important, free leases.

1:17:21

However, we will be requiring them to purchase insurance in order to be on that property, which is a set amount, was there a set dollar amount for the insurance, or does it matter?

1:17:33

Um well, they're I mean they can purchase insurance on their own.

1:17:36

Uh there's also a program, you know, now the adopt a lot program has been in existence for 10 years.

1:17:41

Um, Grow Pittsburgh, we've worked with them and they've set up you know their you know, so people can purchase insurance through Grove Pittsburgh, uh, you know, for these programs as well.

1:17:50

Yeah, so they could jump on Grow Pittsburgh as a rider basically, probably get the insurance cheaper for such a lot.

1:17:57

And we spoke yesterday, I think it was a hundred and hundred and five.

1:18:02

185.

1:18:03

185, thank you, McKenzie, for insurance per year.

1:18:07

That's with Grow Pittsburgh.

1:18:10

Okay, so and we do have some communities, and I want to be clear about this too, and we talked about this yesterday.

1:18:17

Um, for instance, I know Councilwoman Gross has uh some groups that are already established, already in those spaces, and when we open these up, they will have first choice whether to keep that space.

1:18:31

Um some of them I think already have their own insurance, they could potentially transfer their insurance to grow Pittsburgh if it's cheaper for them, now that we have this program in place, and just to make sure that people who are already fostering areas know that um they're not gonna be out bid or they're not gonna be in some lottery, they will be able to continue to work on those spaces.

1:18:54

That's correct, and and you know, this this will not invalidate existing agreements.

1:18:59

So there are like I mean, for example, you know, Councilwoman Gross is you know, had questions around uh the Dunkin' Duncan playground and the and the tot lot there.

1:19:07

Um, there's an existing agreement.

1:19:09

We've worked you know talked to the organization around those agreements, those would be able to stay in place at the same time if they you know if they the garden program is an option for them if they want to if it was more advantageous to them in the future.

1:19:20

And I think that the same time, you know, it would also allow for many other projects like that uh to be able to take place.

1:19:28

You know, that that project, for example, uh took them three years to get their first agreement by putting these things in legislation, it would allow for uh that process to happen much more quickly, uh, you know, and that we I mean, with our I mean, we can kind of speak to adopt a lot agreements, but I mean those are things that take take place in weeks uh, you know, as opposed to, you know, as opposed to months or years.

1:19:52

Right.

1:19:52

No, I I love promoting it, uh, you know, I think it's it's all moving the right direction only because I like I've told you, I I've seen the enthusiasm from from the community behind, you know, a lot of people they really want to be involved.

1:20:03

They still have people, stopping me.

1:20:06

We were out at the proposal where I have the farm uh proposal, and uh people are still stopping me.

1:20:13

When am I gonna be working in the orchard?

1:20:14

Or what am I gonna be working on the farm?

1:20:16

So I have volunteers that for a farm that I don't have.

1:20:19

I have uh a handful of them and and still get asked about it since I promoted it a couple of years ago.

1:20:24

And it's still maybe in the works.

1:20:26

We'll we'll see, you know, what what time should bring.

1:20:29

Um the other thing was you mentioned vendors will now be um uh permitted to grow their own food, then take it out of that lot and sell it.

1:20:41

Whereas now we don't have that in place, correct?

1:20:44

Uh the the one piece of legislation will allow that on city on city on property uh in city parks and greenways where that presently.

1:20:52

So if you have one of our free leases and you're a vendor, you can grow your own food, pick it, take it, um, harvest it, and now go sell it anywhere you want, basically.

1:21:04

That's correct.

1:21:04

Yeah, and currently we it's not, it's not that not that way.

1:21:08

That's correct.

1:21:09

Right.

1:21:09

So I think that's great, and I just wanted to be clear, and again, we I had all these questions answered yesterday just for the public.

1:21:16

Is um, for instance, my orchard, or I should say our orchard, Councilwoman Gross was very instrumental, of course, in promoting the whole thing.

1:21:24

Um, you know, it's starting to bear fruit now.

1:21:26

I mean, trees are 20, thirty feet high.

1:21:29

And you know, I'm thinking the whole idea behind our our idea was really to open it to the public.

1:21:29

Come in and pick some fruit or berries, and you know, don't overindulge and be respectful to everybody else.

1:21:42

It's a public space.

1:21:44

Um, but I just wanted to be clear that we're not gonna allow vendors to go into an orchard that I have or anybody else has and read the free and then go sell it somewhere.

1:21:56

That's against the rules and illegal, right?

1:22:00

Right.

1:22:00

Uh so yeah.

1:22:01

So, you know, the the idea is that you know that people would be able to, you know, again, if people were going through the garden program and had a valid lease and they were growing food, they should be able to do that.

1:22:10

They would be able to take that off site and donate it.

1:22:13

They would be able to take that off site and go to a city farmers market and sell it, you know, or or other means, um, which again, you know, presently is not allowed.

1:22:22

It is actually prohibited by ordinance.

1:22:24

It's not, it's not even that it's not allowed, it's it is specifically prohibited presently, and so that the changes here would be striking that.

1:22:31

Okay.

1:22:31

Well, I invite you out to uh ribbon cutting of the uh finishing of the Belasco Orchard that Councilwell and Gross and I work so hard on.

1:22:39

And it's it just can keep continues.

1:22:42

It's growing and growing.

1:22:43

That's what I love about orchards.

1:22:44

They work 24-7 and uh you need a little water, you know, some some little TLC, but uh, you know, and they look beautiful and people love them, they really do.

1:22:54

So okay.

1:22:55

Well, thanks for your work.

1:22:56

Uh I'm in support after our meeting yesterday, and you've explained everything, so uh it all makes sense.

1:23:02

Thanks.

1:23:03

Thank you.

1:23:03

Councilman Wilson.

1:23:05

Thanks for your work on this.

1:23:06

I thought last week would be the only time we heard the word tuber.

1:23:09

Who?

1:23:10

Which word?

1:23:12

But we've just made it back to the table a second time.

1:23:16

I am excited.

1:23:17

I want to see these tubers.

1:23:19

Um, I'm serious.

1:23:21

Oh, you mean that there's a tube tube?

1:23:23

Uh sunflowers, that's what you're talking about.

1:23:25

I'm game.

1:23:26

All right, thanks for all your work on this.

1:23:28

You're gonna eat one?

1:23:29

I want to.

1:23:30

Okay, we're gonna we're gonna serve you some tables.

1:23:34

All right.

1:23:34

Thanks for all your work on this.

1:23:36

Thank you.

1:23:38

Further discussion.

1:23:40

Thank you, yeah.

1:23:41

I all I I will I still have more to say that I won't take up in this meeting.

1:23:46

So, and I think there's some other voices that would want to talk more.

1:23:49

So I if if I want to motion for a post agenda on these topics, unlike the expansion of of uh gardens and greenways.

1:23:58

Should I do it now or should I wait till later?

1:24:00

Uh, unless you want to hold these bills for a post agenda, I'd recommend at the end of the meeting.

1:24:04

Let's do that thing.

1:24:04

Yeah, thank you.

1:24:06

Okay.

1:24:07

Further discussions, seeing none, all in favor of Bill 564, please say aye.

1:24:13

Okay.

1:24:14

Affirmative recommendation.

1:24:15

If you all want to stay here at the table just in case there are questions as we move into the other um pertinent bills, uh, you're welcome to do so.

1:24:22

That moves us to recreation youth and senior services committee chaired by councilmember Warwick.

1:24:28

Bill 562, resolution authorizing the mayor, the director of office and management and budget, and the director of the department of city planning to enter into an agreement or agreements with open space institute for the purpose of receiving grant funds and the amount not to exceed $25,000 to acquire privately owned tax delinquent land to improve connectivity of our greenways.

1:24:51

Oh, sorry, did you want to read?

1:24:52

Oh, sorry, apologies.

1:24:53

Go ahead.

1:24:53

Um, it's uh it's up to you, Councilmember.

1:24:57

Okay, we can read them all.

1:24:58

Read them all together, thank you.

1:25:00

So, Bill 562, 565, 566, uh, 556 567 is part of it, yes.

1:25:12

Yeah, sorry, I was trying to remember.

1:25:14

Um, Bill 565, ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh City Code, Title 4, public places and property, Article 7, City Real Realty by adding a new chapter, 456, city farm garden program to authorize the Department of Parks and Recreation to establish a garden program which permits urban agricultural oral activities, permanently city owned property, all under certain terms and conditions, uh Bill 566, ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh City Code, Title 4 Public Places and Property, Article 7, City Realty by adding new chapter 455, greenways to authorize the Department of City Planning, and it's appointed designees to establish a greenway program which permits stewardship and urban agricultural activities in the greenways all under certain terms and conditions.

1:26:07

And Bill 567, ordinance amending and supplementing the Pittsburgh City Code, Title 4, Public Places and Property, Article 11, Parks and Playgrounds by amending chapter 473.01.A.3 and 473.01.1 to update Pittsburgh's park property use regulations.

1:26:31

Motion to approve.

1:26:33

Second.

1:26:34

Discussion.

1:26:52

No, we spoke when we spoke uh earlier for the adopt a lot bill on the world.

1:26:58

Great, excellent.

1:26:59

Okay.

1:26:59

Just wanted to make that option.

1:27:01

I really appreciate the work that you've done.

1:27:03

I appreciate the briefing that you've offered all council members.

1:27:05

I found I learned a lot and it really is interesting to see how it's not just a piecemeal approach.

1:27:10

You really do put put thought into and ensuring that this is a whole package of legislation.

1:27:15

So thank you.

1:27:15

And I think it's going to improve the accessibility of the public to our green spaces, our the, you know, various spaces outdoors, whatever, you know, even kind of postage jam style green spaces that exist in the urban setting.

1:27:32

This makes it easier to access and easier to um do good work and creative work in those areas.

1:27:37

So thank you for your work.

1:27:39

Okay, with that, all in favor of bills 562, 565, 566, and 567.

1:27:48

Please say aye.

1:27:50

Aye.

1:27:51

Affirmative recommendation.

1:27:53

Thank you.

1:27:53

Thanks for all.

1:27:55

That moves us to innovation performance asset management and technology committee chaired by Councilwoman Gross.

1:28:02

New papers.

1:28:05

Bill 580 585.

1:28:08

Resolution Amending Resolution 846 of 2023.

1:28:13

Authorizing the mayor and the director of the Department of Innovation and Performance on behalf of the City of Pittsburgh to enter into an agreement or agreements or amendments there too with the Wilson Group for the lease of multi-function devices and managed print services to include MFDs, all related hardware integrated and standalone, support maintenance and supplies, software related services and solutions by increasing the approved amount by 270,000 for an amended total cost not to exceed $1,870,000.

1:28:52

Motion to approve.

1:28:55

Discussion.

1:28:57

Could we have someone at the table for this, please?

1:29:11

Thank you.

1:29:12

Please just introduce yourselves.

1:29:13

Hi, Zoe Burns, Senior Manager of the Service Desk.

1:29:17

Hi, I'm Gwen Moore, Assistant Director of Business Technology and IMP.

1:29:21

Thank you.

1:29:22

So this is authorizing INP to enter into an agreement with the Wilson Group for our essentially our printers and other devices.

1:29:32

Yes, we already have an agreement.

1:29:33

So this is just a revised to add our plotter.

1:29:38

So the the uh GIS team that makes the giant maps, they use a large format printer to print those, and we'd like to add that to our lease.

1:29:48

Anything further?

1:29:49

Okay.

1:29:50

I would like to say that we have since we entering into the contract with the Wilson Group.

1:29:56

Uh INP has always been fantastic, but the Wilson group took us, it took six months for us to get a new printer when R stopped working.

1:30:03

We were utilizing printing from other offices, the clerk's office, and that's unacceptable.

1:30:08

So if you could pass it along to the Wilson group, that they need to up their game when it comes to customer service.

1:30:13

Um I will be voting for this today, but uh next time if this continues, I will not vote for uh an authorization.

1:30:19

Yeah, understood.

1:30:20

Absolutely.

1:30:21

Thank you.

1:30:21

But I have to say IMP is has always been in our corner and been fantastic.

1:30:25

It was really just working with the Wilson group.

1:30:27

Thank you.

1:30:28

Thank you.

1:30:29

Uh, yes, Councilman Wilson or Councilman Cockell.

1:30:32

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair.

1:30:33

No, I just wanted to reiterate my office had the exact same problem.

1:30:36

I mean, it was like I couldn't get anything printed, and I live by the printing.

1:30:29

So I think it was the same exact problem that you had.

1:30:44

I'm glad to hear others were having the same problem.

1:30:46

I started to feel like we were singled out, but yeah.

1:30:49

So I just wanted to back up her remarks on the Wilson group, was it?

1:30:54

Yeah, yeah, we need better service.

1:30:56

Yeah, we'll pass that.

1:30:56

Quicker, yeah.

1:30:57

We're addressing those issues now.

1:30:59

Thank you.

1:31:00

Thank you.

1:31:01

Yeah, no affiliation.

1:31:05

Any further discussion?

1:31:07

Okay, thank you.

1:31:08

All in favor of Bill 585, please say I.

1:31:12

Thank you all.

1:31:13

Thank you.

1:31:14

Bill 586.

1:31:16

Resolution amending resolution 248 of 2020 authorizing the mayor and the director of the Department of Mobility and Infrastructure, or the director of the Department of Innovation and Performance to enter into an agreement or agreements or amendments there too with Cyclomedia Technology Inc.

1:31:36

for the city to continue to access the captured 360 geocycloramas for approximately 1,553 total miles of city-owned roads along with LIDAR data by increasing the approved amount by 46,590 for an amended total cost not to exceed 814,936.75 cents over nine years.

1:32:04

Motion to approve brief discussion.

1:32:06

Second.

1:32:07

Discussion.

1:32:08

Thank you.

1:32:10

So this one is uh is this a new thing for us doing LIDAR of our city streets?

1:32:18

No, as city?

1:32:19

No, it's not.

1:32:20

As a matter of fact, we did the first uh maybe you get a little closer to the microphone.

1:32:24

We did the first.

1:32:25

Just bring it closer to you.

1:32:28

We contracted with Cyclamedia to do the first um engagement about seven years ago.

1:32:34

And they originally they just did everything at no cost.

1:32:38

When we recognize the value, of course, Domi uses it for the street, the street imagery, for um intersection design, creating measures and assisting with the different services that Domi provides.

1:32:49

They recognize the value.

1:32:51

We've we've captured all of the data now, and now they still need access to that data for their planning as they move forward.

1:32:57

So we don't have it in house.

1:32:59

We had it's our data, but we have to keep paying for it.

1:33:02

We're paying for access.

1:33:04

We're paying for access.

1:33:05

Well, that's the same thing.

1:33:06

Yes.

1:33:07

Um, so this is yeah, I have I think we all should have a heightened awareness about, and we've talked about this.

1:33:13

We have the other work that we're working on on privacy and surveillance issues with city data.

1:33:19

This isn't about any individual person's location or data.

1:33:23

I just want people to be clear.

1:33:25

Correct.

1:33:25

Um, but I feel like now I'm looking at things with different eyes.

1:33:30

Um, so um, you know, how much when we invest these kinds of significant funds, and yet we have to keep paying in order to continue access to either a platform or the data on a platform, etc.

1:33:48

etc.

1:33:49

It's um, I think it's right for us to kind of maybe pause and question is this the way, are there any other options?

1:33:57

Is this how every other city is doing it?

1:33:59

So could you give us a little framing again about what LIDAR of streets means?

1:34:05

And then what is the kind of cost-benefit ratio that I'm sure you guys you know thought through.

1:34:12

Actually, I'm not the expert on this particular item.

1:34:14

Shireen Alble Disami is the expert as well as Domi.

1:34:18

So if you have additional questions with respect to those details, I think it's better happy.

1:34:21

We do have Director Scalkin still in the room, and I see a moving forward.

1:34:24

Def, would you like to do an end?

1:34:26

Thank you.

1:34:27

I mean, we don't need to, I'm not wanting to belabor this, but I do think that I think we had some public comment yesterday.

1:34:36

And um, and I it LIDAR, I think is being increasingly used.

1:34:43

Um, and if I if I'm not mistaken, because I am concerned in the other kind of research and learning that we're doing.

1:34:51

I'm not claiming to be an expert in the learning that we I think we and and our residents need to do on privacy and surveillance technology.

1:34:58

Liner is not in some sectors unrelated to the autonomy stuff, meaning like sidewalk robots and things that I think residents do have opinions on.

1:35:08

So can you just kind of give us a perspective of like what are we spending money on?

1:35:13

How are we using it?

1:35:14

And like why are we doing this?

1:35:16

Sure.

1:35:16

Um again, Jeff Skellikon, director for Domi.

1:35:19

Um so when I first started with the City of Pittsburgh nine years ago, all of our projects were like um farmed out through a consultant and an engineering firm.

1:35:27

Um we approach IMP, I think eight, nine years ago about a software system so we could do more things in-house.

1:35:34

So it's a better, um, better technology frame for us to actually look at the roads, see how so it measures the roads, it tells you the condition of the roads, and it keeps a database of that.

1:35:44

City of Pittsburgh never had anything like that until we um approached like I said, IMP a couple years ago.

1:35:50

It's been seven years now.

1:35:51

Wow, I didn't realize it was that long.

1:35:52

Um so we came up with a system.

1:35:54

Um IMP's been taking the lead on it, and it's been great.

1:35:57

We've been able to do a lot of things in-house now that we have this system.

1:36:02

That I think that's that alone, maybe I don't know about our listeners, but for me that it kind of explains it all, right?

1:36:09

Because we and so much of the work that you see a city uh uh the city doing, whether it's from a retaining wall, road waving to design work, it's actually subcontractors doing it.

1:36:21

And so every time we can bring something in and be doing it with our city employees, I'm always enthusiastic, and I know there's cost savings.

1:36:28

So when we're spending money on continuing to have to to have access to this information, it's basically we're putting the information under contract, but that might allow our city employees to actually do road design in in-house.

1:36:43

Yeah, in house.

1:36:44

And we can treat the things that we're doing too in-house.

1:36:46

So just one, and I again we don't need to go on and on.

1:36:50

I think that kind of uh explains it for me.

1:36:54

But um, is this down to the level of like potholes?

1:37:00

No, it's more of like so from your it's it's the the length of the road, how wide it is, um, it's stuff like that.

1:37:07

It doesn't really do the curb decor.

1:37:09

There you go.

1:37:10

Is it 3D?

1:37:11

Because some LIDAR does do underground, if I'm not mistaken.

1:37:14

Um it's not 3D, it's more just a program for length and width of the condition roads.

1:37:20

Got it, got it.

1:37:20

But so not really infrastructure.

1:37:23

No, you're not gonna see the walls or anything like that in there.

1:37:26

Except for the cartway, you're just in the cartway.

1:37:28

Yes.

1:37:29

Would it be possible to include sidewalk and not just inside the cartway?

1:37:34

City owned sidewalks.

1:37:37

Yes.

1:37:38

But I mean it's lighter, it's being, I mean, how is the data?

1:37:43

Maybe I'm not understanding how this is.

1:37:46

We contracted for certain city assets.

1:37:48

I'm not sure that we contract for sidewalks.

1:37:50

Yeah, sidewalks is always not part of it.

1:37:51

It was just the conditions of the roads.

1:37:53

So what it is is a vehicle, you know, goes on the road and takes a condition of the roads.

1:37:57

Good.

1:37:58

Okay.

1:37:58

Yeah, I got that, but it just kind of uh raises other questions.

1:38:02

But again, I'm supportive.

1:38:04

I think that's in it's um interesting.

1:38:06

I do know that again, I don't I'm not an expert, I don't know enough, but I know that some citizens are questioning um, and rightfully so, I'll say I'm not questioning what the residents are are saying, right?

1:38:19

But that we should be cognizant of you know what data we are buying.

1:38:25

It's not just what data we're generating and selling, but what data we're also buying.

1:38:29

So I'm satisfied that this is uh a worthwhile investment, especially if we're able to do things in-house that we used to have to pay consultants for.

1:38:38

So appreciate it.

1:38:38

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:38:40

Thank you.

1:38:40

Councilman Wilson.

1:38:42

So just to confirm, this is the I think you said this a lot, like that was the one line I was looking for where we're actually recording what's underneath the surface.

1:38:50

No, it's not it's not utilities or anything, I guess, is the condition of the road and for how how big a road is, how wide, how long, um, so we could do things in-house so we know how it how how wide a road is from curb to curb.

1:39:01

So if you want to do bump outs like we do in your area, we're able to measure, do the measurements in-house.

1:39:07

Um, years ago, like I said, we just had a consultant that have this technology.

1:39:10

The city of Pittsburgh didn't have anything.

1:39:12

Um, we're actually, you know, a city that has it now where we're doing things in-house.

1:39:18

Um it's a great program to have.

1:39:20

I mean, we were really fortunate.

1:39:22

So with the is this a vehicle that goes out?

1:39:26

It was a vehicle that took the measurements, and I believe that's what we pay for the database to keep that a while ago.

1:39:32

Yes.

1:39:33

This is like how long ago was this?

1:39:34

You said 70.

1:39:35

2020.

1:39:36

Started in 2020.

1:39:37

Yeah, I thought it measured like the condition of the road and like the subsurface.

1:39:40

It did the condition of the road for like for paving, but it's not gonna tell you underneath, so like for utilities.

1:39:45

We don't know what utility not utilities, but a lot of our roads are paved over like cobblestone.

1:39:50

Correct.

1:39:50

So we do know that.

1:39:52

Okay, yeah.

1:39:52

Sorry, I thought you meant like uh put you know, wet water lines and gas lines.

1:39:56

The oil we're looking for the gold.

1:40:03

It doesn't tell us that.

1:40:04

Yeah, this is that service.

1:40:05

Okay, all right.

1:40:05

So we continue to pay to access the the data.

1:40:09

Yep.

1:40:11

46,000.

1:40:12

All right, thanks.

1:40:14

You any further discussion?

1:40:19

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 586, please say aye.

1:40:23

Aye.

1:40:24

Affirmative recommendation.

1:40:26

That moves us to thank you very much.

1:40:28

That moves us to intergovernmental and educational affairs committee chaired by Councilman Mosley.

1:40:32

Deferred papers bill 412.

1:40:35

Resolution authorizing the Pittsburgh Land Bank to acquire all the city's right, title, and interest, if any, in and to the publicly owned properties in the 12th ward of the city of Pittsburgh, designated in the deed registry office of Allegheny County as block 125A, lot 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, and 133, 0 Lincoln Avenue, and Zero Mayflower Street, Council District 9 at no cost to the city.

1:41:07

Uh motion to withdraw.

1:41:09

Second.

1:41:11

Discussion.

1:41:14

Does the motion to withdraw require a little uh line item vote?

1:41:18

Okay, all in favor of the motion to withdraw Bill 412, please say aye.

1:41:23

Aye.

1:41:25

Motion carries.

1:41:26

New papers, Bill 589, resolution providing for a reimbursement agreement or agreements with Pennsylvania American Water Company for costs associated with the city steps project where Pennsylvania American Water Company would be responsible for paying 100% of the actual expenses involved in certain work to be described in the agreements and an amount not to exceed 5,350.

1:41:54

Motion to approve.

1:41:57

Discussion.

1:41:59

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 589, please say aye.

1:42:03

Aye.

1:42:04

Affirmative recommendation, Bill 590.

1:42:07

Resolution providing for a reimbursement agreement or agreements with Pennsylvania American Water Company for costs associated with the city steps project, where Pennsylvania American Water Company would be responsible for paying 100% of the actual expenses involved and certain work to be described in the agreements and an amount not to exceed $3,500.

1:42:30

Motion to approve.

1:42:31

Second discussion.

1:42:34

Seeing none, all in favor of Bill 590, please say aye.

1:42:38

Aye.

1:42:39

Affirmative recommendation.

1:42:42

That exhaust our standing committee agenda.

1:42:45

Chair, I do have one.

1:42:48

Councilman Wilson.

1:42:49

Yeah, if we go back to the P Cars, um, I think we should weigh the rules.

1:42:54

There's a line item.

1:42:55

There's an item that's over 5,000.

1:42:57

So motion to reconsider.

1:43:01

Is that motion to reconsider P cards?

1:43:04

Is there a second?

1:43:05

Second.

1:43:06

Discussion.

1:43:07

Councilman Wilson?

1:43:08

Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to um weigh the rules on the P cards.

1:43:16

Is there a second?

1:43:17

Um on a motion to weigh the rules for an overage over $5,000 for P-cards in our public works.

1:43:23

Second.

1:43:24

Second discussion.

1:43:25

I this is a uh I believe it's a quarterly or sometimes annually, annual purchase that the state requires for stickers for our trash trucks that uh can only be paid for by credit cards.

1:43:39

So it comes annually.

1:43:41

Um apologies for not catching it.

1:43:42

Thank you for catching it, Councilman.

1:43:44

Uh any further discussion?

1:43:46

Seeing none, all in favor of waiving rules of council to allow for uh cost exceeding five thousand dollars for P cards.

1:43:55

Please say aye.

1:43:56

Aye.

1:43:57

Rules are waived.

1:43:58

Thank you.

1:43:59

Uh Council.

1:43:58

Member uh Gross and then some member Charlotte.

1:43:58

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:44:06

I'd like to motion for a post-agenda on gardens and greenways.

1:44:11

Second.

1:43:59

Discussion.

1:44:13

All in favor, please say aye.

1:44:15

Aye.

1:44:15

Aye.

1:44:16

We will get that schedule.

1:44:18

Councilmember Charlotte.

1:44:19

Uh, yes, so many of you saw yesterday the uh controller released uh report on code enforcement.

1:44:26

Uh as you may recall, two years ago, this was the first piece of legislation that I introduced uh asking her to um to do this audit.

1:44:35

It was very extensive.

1:44:36

Um it took a long time for them to do, but it was released yesterday, so I would like to call a post agenda with the controller uh to discuss that audit.

1:44:45

Discussion.

1:44:46

Seeing none, all in favor, please say aye.

1:44:49

Aye.

1:44:49

We will get that scheduled.

1:44:51

Thank you.

1:44:51

Uh now we will hear from Sean Carter, legislative projects manager.

1:45:04

Good afternoon, members.

1:45:07

From the Council of the City of Pittsburgh regarding Council Bill 2026 0544, mechanical amusement device tax.

1:45:16

Please be advised that pursuant to the act of December 31st, 1965, the Council of the City of Pittsburgh has introduced and intends to levy a new tax in the city called the Pittsburgh Mechanical Amusement Device Tax.

1:45:31

The amusement devices and apparatus to be subject to this tax are herein described.

1:45:36

Class one.

1:45:37

Class one devices include poker machines, video slot machines, video sweepstakes machines, and any other type of purely amusement device permitted by law.

1:45:52

Class two.

1:45:53

Class two devices include machines which offer prizes for amusement, such as stuffed animals, toys, candy, or other items.

1:46:01

The tax for class two devices shall be one hundred dollars per device per year.

1:46:14

Which includes but is not limited to darts, jukeboxes, pool tables, pinball machines, shuffle board machines, and children's video games.

1:46:23

The tax for class three devices shall be ten dollars per device per year.

1:46:29

The tax shall be imposed on any person, business, or establishment that houses and offers for play an amusement device for each such device and is a condition of a license or permit being issued.

1:46:40

The council of the city of Pittsburgh has determined that new sources of general revenue are required to maintain city services for infrastructure and to bring the city's budget into long-term balance.

1:46:51

Initial estimates by the council project 2 million to $3 million per year in new revenue will be derived from this tax.

1:46:58

Thank you, members.

1:47:00

Thank you.

1:47:01

Further announcements this Friday, June 19th, council and clerk's office will be closed in observance of the Juneteenth holiday.

1:47:08

Also next week, council will hold their regular meeting on Tuesday, June 23rd, and standing committees meeting on Wednesday, June 24th, both at 10 a.m.

1:47:16

Speaker registration will close at 9 a.m.

1:47:19

Tuesday and Wednesday mornings.

1:47:21

To register to speak at any of these meetings, please complete the sign-up form on the council meeting webpage or contact the clerk's office at 412-255-213A by the applicable registration deadlines.

1:47:32

Anything else from members?

1:47:34

Seeing none, I'll take a motion to approve the minutes and adjourn the meeting.

1:47:38

So moved.

1:47:39

Second.

1:47:39

All in favor?

1:47:40

Aye.

1:47:41

Meeting is adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Pittsburgh City Council Standing Committees Meeting - June 17, 2026

The meeting began with public comments and then proceeded through the standing committees agenda, where several bills were discussed and voted on. Key items included expansion of the Roots outreach program, updates to the city's garden and greenway stewardship programs, and contracts for printer services and road data access.

Consent Calendar

  • Finance and Law Committee: Bills 592, 593, 594 (property sales), Bill 595 (held for one week), invoices, interdepartmental transfers, and P-cards were approved with discussion only on the hold for Bill 595.
  • Public Safety and Wellness Committee: Bill 587 and Bill 588 (correcting article numbers) were approved.
  • Public Works and Infrastructure Committee: Bill 591 (Verizon reimbursement for city steps project) was approved.
  • Land Use and Economic Development Committee: Bill 481 (conditional use for Passport Academy) was approved; Bill 8 (short-term rental housing) was held for six weeks.
  • Intergovernmental and Educational Affairs Committee: Bill 412 was withdrawn; Bills 589 and 590 (Pennsylvania American Water reimbursements for city steps) were approved.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Speaker 1: Opposed an event planned for 17th Street, calling it a "pretense to justify a crackdown" and a "sacrilege." Urged the council to protect adults' rights to walk their streets and ban age discrimination in public right-of-way.
  • Speaker 2: Opposed the illegal skate park in Panther Hollow, stating that noise from skateboards continues to disrupt their home. Criticized council members Charlin and Warwick for supporting the park and fostering a "mob mentality."
  • Yvonne F. Brown: Recounted a personal anecdote about disrespectful treatment by politicians (County Councilman DeWitt Watson and John DeFazio). Read a poem expressing frustration with unkept promises.
  • Cherise Taylor (special agent sunshine): Spoke about bribery in government, citing Proverbs. Announced a project called "A Night of Sunshine" and invited children to activities on the North Side. Also advocated for veteran banner programs in underserved neighborhoods.
  • Unnamed Speaker (Faces of Freedom founder): Requested council authorization to use city-owned poles for a veteran banner program in communities like Homewood and the Hill, noting that other neighborhoods already have such banners but their communities are charged higher fees. Asked for a resolution to allow the program.

Discussion Items

  • Roots Program Expansion (Bill 584): The city's Office of Community Health and Safety (OCHS) presented an $800,000 contract with Allegheny County to expand the Roots outreach team to evenings and weekends (3 p.m. to 11 p.m. weekdays, plus a weekend shift). The team will grow from 16 to 26 staff. Council members praised the work and asked about logistics, partnerships, and best practices for addressing homelessness and associated issues like addiction and mental health.
  • Adopt-a-Lot Program Update (Bill 564) and New Garden/Greenway Programs (Bills 562, 565, 566, 567): City Planning staff presented a package to reform stewardship programs, including expanding the adopt-a-lot program to allow food sales, formalizing greenway agreements, and creating a city farm garden program. Councilwoman Gross and Councilman Coghill highlighted community enthusiasm and the need to make leases free but require liability insurance (about $185/year through Grow Pittsburgh). Existing stewards will retain their spaces.
  • Printer Contract (Bill 585): The Innovation and Performance Department requested an additional $270,000 to add a large-format plotter to an existing lease with the Wilson Group. Multiple council members reported poor customer service and long wait times for printer replacements; they voted for the increase but warned of future disapproval if service does not improve.
  • LIDAR Data Access (Bill 586): The city renewed its contract with Cyclomedia for continued access to 360-degree imagery and LIDAR data of city roads (1,553 miles), at an additional $46,590 over nine years. DOMI Director Jeff Skalican explained the data helps do road condition analysis and design in-house, reducing reliance on consultants. Council members clarified the data is used for road width and condition, not utilities or subsurface features, and that privacy concerns were noted but the data is not about individuals.

Key Outcomes

  • Bill 584: Approved unanimously (voice vote) to expand Roots outreach.
  • Bills 587 and 588: Approved unanimously to correct chapter numbers.
  • Bill 591: Approved unanimously for Verizon reimbursement ($6,500).
  • Bill 481: Approved unanimously for Passport Academy conditional use.
  • Bill 8: Held for six weeks (voice vote).
  • Bill 564, 562, 565, 566, 567: Approved unanimously to update adopt-a-lot and create garden/greenway programs.
  • Bill 585: Approved with discussion and warning about vendor performance.
  • Bill 586: Approved for Cyclomedia LIDAR data access.
  • Bills 589 and 590: Approved for water company reimbursements.
  • Bill 412: Withdrawn (voice vote).
  • P-card waiver: Rules waived for a purchase over $5,000 (unanimous).
  • Post-agenda motions: Approved for a future discussion on gardens/greenways and a post-agenda with the Controller regarding a code enforcement audit.
  • Meeting adjourned after approval of minutes.

Meeting Transcript

A month and a half old Instagram page that will just so happen to need that exact amount of street every week, no matter how few people breathe its eight-foot walls and surveillance drones that will harass neighborhood residents and demand they produce their papers just to get to their homes. The best advertisement the organizers could offer yesterday, and I quote, we don't want it to feel like Stalog 17. In this House of Freedom, this Temple of Liberty, the yellow-ballied, peace to lanimous pretense of an event to justify a crackdown is a sacrilege. This council should say no to Stalog 17th Street. Before anything else, it should protect the right of every adult to walk down their streets. It should ban age discrimination for adults in accessing the public right of way. I will be here every week to make sure you each know about the full adult citizens in my community that are being denied their rights in their own city. If you do not fix this, do not ever tell me you didn't know. There being no further registered speakers, we will now take comments from those in the audience wishing to speak. The political faces and voices for the vulgarity and graffiti field illegal skate park in Panther Hollow. They have justified the illegal skate park by saying our playground was not being used. However, before any construction began, these fundamental questions should have been asked first. Last Wednesday, when I was speaking here about this issue, Charlie began laughing and talking to the council member next to him. These actions indicated this issue and its impact on our community don't matter. Charlotte's actions and Warwick's continued support underscore one of the fundamental roots of this problem. Respecting the dignity of others requires first respecting one's own dignity. This truth can be more fully understood when taken to an extreme example. A sociopath doesn't respect his own dignity and therefore does not respect the dignity of another. For him, taking another person to life is no different than stepping on an ant. When I began these testimonies, a staff member for Charling told me to back off because dozens of skateboarders came before this council in support of the skate park, whom Warwick then praised. However, that kind of mob mentality with the support of misguided politicians never justifies wrongdoing against our community. Five days ago, at around 8 30 a.m., I once again heard the distinct noise of skateboards crashing onto concrete while inside my home. I went to the skate park and told the skateboarders that their noise was penetrating my home. One of them replied to me, expressing the same attitudes of Charlin in Warwick. He said to me, I don't care. When politicians do not respect their own dignity, and therefore do not respect the dignity of others, support a mob mentality with all of their wrongdoings, and just don't care. We suffer the horrific injustice of the illegal skate park with the resultant shame and moral humiliation to this council, the mayor, his administration, and the city of Pittsburgh. Shut down the illegal skate park in Panther Hollow. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Okay. My name is Yvonne F. Brown. I live at 715 Mercer Street. Um, that's in uh at the top of Beffrey. I've been bringing this sign for years. But I want to explain it, if I can. Well, you have it. Uh we were having politicians in the building. Kaylee Rover was tires. I didn't know it. And as I was walking down the hall, here comes the county council. The width Watson. He's the beaker, a large black man. And I said, hey, sir, you remember me? I said, uh, I came to you because we needed the bus to go down to the bottom of the hill. Um I said, and you didn't do anything, so he stopped and he's a loud man. I said, are you hollering at me? But he explained, no, I will call Pat Authority. So he goes out the side door.

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