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Record of Proceedings

Regular City Council Meeting - September 25, 2023

City CouncilMonday, September 25, 2023
BodyPueblo, Colorado
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, September 25, 2023
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:02

Recording in progress.

0:31

Today is Monday, September 5th.

0:33

The time is 704, and I call this meeting to order.

0:36

If everybody will stand, we have Pastor Tony Amaya from the Pueblo Christian Center, and please stay standing after the invocation for the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:46

Good evening, if you would all bow your heads.

0:48

Father, we thank you for this night.

0:51

We thank you for this great city that we get to call home.

0:54

Father, tonight we ask for your blessing over our city.

0:57

We ask for peace.

0:58

We ask for unity.

0:59

We ask for prosperity.

1:01

Lord, I ask for your blessing over those who choose to lead the city.

1:04

Lord, I ask that you would give them wisdom tonight as decisions are made and as they continue to lead us, God, I ask for grace over them.

1:11

We ask this all in Jesus' name.

1:13

Amen.

1:16

Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

1:37

Okay, roll call.

1:39

Larry Tencio.

1:43

Here.

1:44

Dennis Flores.

1:46

Heather Graham.

1:47

Here.

1:47

Regina Maestri.

1:49

Sarah Martinez.

1:50

Vicente Martinez Ortega.

1:53

Lori Winner.

1:55

Okay, thank you.

1:56

We have one special recognition tonight, and it is a proclamation for Captain Eric Bravo Day.

2:04

So if we can have uh Mr.

2:06

Bravo's family who would like to receive the proclamation, come up to the front.

2:28

Proclamation, Captain Eric Bravo Day, September 25th, 2023.

2:33

Whereas Captain Bravo served his community as an officer who retired from the Pueblo Police Department after 32 years and served in law enforcement for 34.

2:42

And whereas Captain Bravo is remembered by his friends, colleagues, and the community as a dedicated officer, a tireless investigator, a mentor, and a caring figure.

2:53

Colleagues have described him as a driven, dedicated, and passionate detective who always gave his all.

2:59

And whereas Captain Bravo was an accomplished guitarist who played in the band Joe Friday.

3:05

He also dedicated himself to supporting the Special Olympics as a coach for the Pueblo County Bannham Football League.

3:12

And whereas Captain Bravo served many roles during his years at the PPD, including patrol officer, detective, sergeant, and captain.

3:22

He was a graduate of the FBI National Academy.

3:25

He showed faithful and loyal devotion to his community.

3:28

He proudly dedicated 34 years of his life to serve and protect.

3:32

Now, therefore, we the mayor and the city council of the city of Pueblo, Colorado, by the authority vested in us, do hereby officially proclaim September 25th, 2023 as Captain Eric Bravo Day in the City of Pueblo, Colorado.

3:47

We call upon Pueblo County citizens to salute his service and commemorate Captain Bravo's contributions to the quality of life in our community.

4:41

Why don't you talk about the crime center?

4:45

Yep, come on down.

4:50

Yep, take a seat and then the little button in the front.

4:52

You'll click on your mic and you uh can begin and then you'll see the timer in front of you to let you know when you're done.

5:03

Good evening, council.

5:05

Um my family lives in the Vesimere area, and I'm here today to tell you that I'm scared.

5:12

I'm scared that we are moving further and further from helping our friends and our family and our community.

5:19

ShotSpotter is a technology with many flaws and does nothing to establish a community bond.

5:26

It does not work on shots fired indoors or in between two structures.

5:32

There are false alarms.

5:34

It does not decrease police response times because if a police officer is already doing something, they can't get to another call.

5:45

Sound thinking, the company who owns ShotSpotter will not allow for an independent company to come in and analyze their data.

5:52

Their data, the data that does exist from cities who have implemented ShotSpotter show that there isn't a decrease in gun violence or homicides.

6:02

It also shows that these are set up in areas of mainly people who are in in BIPOC communities, people of color.

6:10

And so you're sending police officers into an area where it's already overpoliced, and many of those community members do not trust the police officers.

6:22

The Burr the Bureau of Justice Assistance has a whole article on community violence intervention, so CVI.

6:32

Um many of these programs focus on reducing homicides and shootings.

6:47

Uh relationships with people at the center of gun violence in our communities.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Zoning And Land Use██████████████████18%
Public Safety████████████████16%
Procedural███████████████15%
Arts And Culture██████████10%
Affordable Housing█████████9%
Technology and Innovation██████6%
Homelessness███3%
Public Engagement███3%
Public Works███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Regular City Council Meeting - September 25, 2023

The Pueblo City Council met on Monday, September 25, 2023, at 7:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Presided over by President Heather Graham, the meeting included special recognitions, a public forum, and action on numerous resolutions and ordinances covering public safety, housing, community development, and arts. Key decisions included approval of a $1.5 million real-time crime center (5-2), postponement of a $10,000 arts study contract (4-3), and unanimous approval of a settlement agreement. Several zoning and annexation items were also passed.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the minutes of the regular meeting on September 11, 2023, as distributed.
  • Approved by one motion all Consent Agenda items: Resolutions M2 through M10 and Ordinances N1 through N9 (first presentation). These included routine matters such as construction contracts (e.g., $27,220.80 for 718 W. 4th Street demolition), fund transfers, election official appointments, and first readings of ordinances accepting grants (e.g., $40,000 electric vehicle readiness plan), approving MOUs (e.g., with Health Solutions of Pueblo for the SOS Team), and setting salary ordinances (N7: council pay at $2,100/month, president at $2,700/month).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Public Forum (7 speakers):
    • A resident opposed the proposed ShotSpotter gunshot detection system, citing flaws, false alarms, and over-policing of BIPOC communities; advocated for community violence intervention programs.
    • A speaker criticized Ordinance N7 (council pay increase), arguing the position is not full-time, proposed alternative pay structure, and urged putting the matter to a public vote. Also referenced an alleged incident between two elected officials.
    • Ted Freeman questioned the operations of the Pueblo Economic Development Corporation (PEDCO) and the Pueblo Development Foundation (PDF), alleging non-compliance with their articles and contracts.
    • Steve Lehes (speaking for Freeman) reiterated concerns about PDF’s lack of transparency and staffing.
    • Augustine Garcia opposed using taxpayer funds for homeless shelters, suggesting reliance on churches and private charities; praised the police chief but criticized the Rescue Mission becoming a high-barrier shelter.
    • Dave Dechinja discussed the 2035 fossil fuel reduction pledge and complained about cancellation of a candidate debate he organized at the Sangre de Cristo Arts Center.
  • Public Hearings:
    • K1 (Dorcy Community Housing Annexation): No public testimony; hearing closed.
    • R2 (Arts study contract): Supporters (Roxanne Pignanelli and Kennedy Pugh) argued the $10,000 contract would inventory creative assets to inform a future arts commission. Opponents (Christina McCann of Pueblo Arts Alliance, Diana Lamoris of Steel City Artworks, Andy Sanchez of Sangre de Cristo Arts Center, Abel Chavez) requested postponement to align with existing collaborative efforts (Creative Consortium) and avoid duplication.
    • Other hearings (R1, R3, R4, S1–S8): No public testimony or only brief remarks.

Discussion Items

  • M1 – Real-Time Crime Center (ARPA Funding, up to $1,500,000): Police Chief presented the proposal, which includes ShotSpotter gunshot detection, license plate readers, and integration with city systems. Councilor Atencio initially moved to postpone to October 23 to review alternatives from a conference, but after discussion withdrew the motion. The resolution passed 5-2 (Atencio, Flores, Graham, Martinez, Winner in favor; Maestri, Martinez Ortega opposed). Councilor Maestri expressed concerns about ongoing maintenance costs (~$750,000/year) and data from larger cities.
  • R2 – Arts Research and Study Services Contract ($10,000): Councilor Flores moved to postpone to October 23, 2023, to allow stakeholders (Creative Consortium, Arts Alliance, etc.) to collaborate. The motion passed 4-3 (Atencio, Flores, Graham, Martinez Ortega in favor; Maestri, Martinez, Winner opposed). The contract itself was therefore deferred.
  • R3 – Settlement Agreement (Christian Growth Center Case): City Attorney explained the $40,000 settlement (plus suspension of RV ordinance enforcement) was recommended by CERSA attorneys. Mayor expressed objection, preferring trial. Council voted unanimously (7-0) to approve.
  • S1/S2 – Dorcy Community Housing Annexation and Rezoning: Following staff reports and applicant presentation (Posada Inc. for 31 duplex units and community building), the Council approved both items. S1 (annexation) passed 7-0. S2 (rezoning from A-4 to R-3) passed 6-1 (Maestri opposed). Councilor Flores noted the need for affordable housing, recalling his own start in similar housing. Councilor Maestri expressed concern about changing single-family neighborhood character.
  • Other Items: Q1 (liquor fee schedule) and Q2 ($2,000 suicide memory walk sponsorship) passed unanimously. R1 (employee health fair) passed 7-0. R4 (Pueblo Springs Apartments amendment) passed 6-1 (Atencio opposed). S3–S8 (vacations, subdivisions, rezonings) all passed 7-0.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved:
    • Consent Agenda (Resolutions M2–M10, Ordinances N1–N9)
    • Resolution Q1 (liquor/beer license fee schedule)
    • Resolution Q2 ($2,000 sponsorship for Suicide Memory Walk)
    • Resolution M1 (Real-Time Crime Center, $1.5 million ARPA funds) – Vote 5-2
    • Ordinance R1 (Employee Health Fair agreement) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance R3 (Settlement Agreement with Christian Growth Center, $40,000) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance R4 (Pueblo Springs Apartments SIA Amendment) – Vote 6-1
    • Ordinance S1 (Dorcy Community Housing Annexation) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S2 (Dorcy Rezoning to R-3) – Vote 6-1
    • Ordinance S3 (Drainage Easement Vacation) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S4 (North Vista Highlands Filing 7 Subdivision) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S5 (Summit Avenue Right-of-Way Vacation) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S6 (Rezoning 945 E. Routt Ave to RCN) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S7 (Rezoning 718 W. 4th St to S-1) – Vote 7-0
    • Ordinance S8 (Rezoning 2.9 acres near HARP to S-1) – Vote 7-0
  • Postponed:
    • Ordinance R2 (Arts study contract) – Postponed to October 23, 2023, vote 4-3.
  • Other Actions:
    • Public hearing K1 (Dorcy Annexation) held and closed.
    • Minutes of September 11, 2023 approved.
    • Meeting adjourned at 10:47 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Recording in progress. Today is Monday, September 5th. The time is 704, and I call this meeting to order. If everybody will stand, we have Pastor Tony Amaya from the Pueblo Christian Center, and please stay standing after the invocation for the Pledge of Allegiance. Good evening, if you would all bow your heads. Father, we thank you for this night. We thank you for this great city that we get to call home. Father, tonight we ask for your blessing over our city. We ask for peace. We ask for unity. We ask for prosperity. Lord, I ask for your blessing over those who choose to lead the city. Lord, I ask that you would give them wisdom tonight as decisions are made and as they continue to lead us, God, I ask for grace over them. We ask this all in Jesus' name. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. Okay, roll call. Larry Tencio. Here. Dennis Flores. Heather Graham. Here. Regina Maestri. Sarah Martinez. Vicente Martinez Ortega. Lori Winner. Okay, thank you. We have one special recognition tonight, and it is a proclamation for Captain Eric Bravo Day. So if we can have uh Mr. Bravo's family who would like to receive the proclamation, come up to the front. Proclamation, Captain Eric Bravo Day, September 25th, 2023. Whereas Captain Bravo served his community as an officer who retired from the Pueblo Police Department after 32 years and served in law enforcement for 34. And whereas Captain Bravo is remembered by his friends, colleagues, and the community as a dedicated officer, a tireless investigator, a mentor, and a caring figure. Colleagues have described him as a driven, dedicated, and passionate detective who always gave his all. And whereas Captain Bravo was an accomplished guitarist who played in the band Joe Friday. He also dedicated himself to supporting the Special Olympics as a coach for the Pueblo County Bannham Football League. And whereas Captain Bravo served many roles during his years at the PPD, including patrol officer, detective, sergeant, and captain. He was a graduate of the FBI National Academy. He showed faithful and loyal devotion to his community. He proudly dedicated 34 years of his life to serve and protect. Now, therefore, we the mayor and the city council of the city of Pueblo, Colorado, by the authority vested in us, do hereby officially proclaim September 25th, 2023 as Captain Eric Bravo Day in the City of Pueblo, Colorado. We call upon Pueblo County citizens to salute his service and commemorate Captain Bravo's contributions to the quality of life in our community. Why don't you talk about the crime center? Yep, come on down. Yep, take a seat and then the little button in the front. You'll click on your mic and you uh can begin and then you'll see the timer in front of you to let you know when you're done. Good evening, council. Um my family lives in the Vesimere area, and I'm here today to tell you that I'm scared. I'm scared that we are moving further and further from helping our friends and our family and our community. ShotSpotter is a technology with many flaws and does nothing to establish a community bond.

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