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Pueblo City Council Regular Meeting - November 12, 2024

City CouncilTuesday, November 12, 2024
BodyPueblo, Colorado
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, November 12, 2024
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:29

Welcome on another beautiful evening in Pueblo, Colorado.

0:32

Tonight is Monday, November 11th, 2024.

0:37

And I call the regular city council meeting to order.

0:41

First off is our invitation, Pastor Wood, Pastor Kim Wood from the Avenue Church.

0:48

Please join us if you want.

0:50

Stand for the prayer, and then we'll be the Pledge of Allegiance.

1:13

Each issue that's going to be presented before the council.

1:16

God, we pray that it would be presented fairly and clearly.

1:19

We pray for discernment and wisdom for this council who have been elected to govern over us and for us.

1:26

And so we pray for favor and our wisdom.

1:29

God, we also want to give you great thanks for all the veterans that have served our country.

1:34

And as this day is Veterans Day, God, we we thank them and honor them.

1:38

And we also ask for your protection of all current uh servicemen and women who are in dangerous uh way uh overseas as well as uh here at home.

1:48

We pray for our law enforcement and for our first responders, our fire.

1:53

Uh God, we just pray for their safety and their well-being as they're out on the streets taking care of our city tonight.

1:59

So, God, we thank you for this opportunity.

2:02

We pray for um uh ears to hear and uh hearts to listen, and in all things, God, for the good of our community in Jesus' name, amen.

2:18

And to the Republic for which it stands.

2:21

One nation, your God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

2:30

Thank you, Pastor Warden.

2:32

We now move on to Red Hall.

2:38

Here, Loston.

2:43

Right?

2:44

General Tino, here Regina Maestre.

2:48

Here, Sam Martinez here.

2:52

Well, I'll account it for.

3:44

Come on in here.

3:47

So this is a proclamation for law enforcement records personnel week, november 4th, 38th, 2024.

3:56

Whereas dedicated law enforcement records personnel are crucial to assisting law enforcement agencies in identifying, pursuing, capturing, and processing suspects.

4:08

And whereas Pueblo Police Department records personnel diligently serve the community of Portro by exhibiting professionalism, efficiency, and compassion during the performance of their essential duties.

5:00

Now therefore, we need the City Council of the City of Pueblo, Colorado, by the authority vested in us to hereby proclaim the week of November, November 4th to 8th, 2024 as law enforcement records personnel week in the city of Pueblo and join in recognizing and expressing our appreciation for the behind-the-scenes work of law enforcement records personnel as they serve the Pueblo community at large and in multiple capacities throughout the police department.

5:17

And witness where I have hearing two set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Predalo, Colorado to be affixed this 11th day of November 2024, signed by Nick.

5:30

Congratulations.

6:44

Whereas law enforcement officers, firefighters, public service utility, emergency medical personnel, road crews, and tow operators conduct valuable and often life-saving operations at the roadside.

6:58

And whereas these on-seen personnel provide a critical public service and recall to duty at all hours of the day and night in adverse weather conditions and in a dangerous roadside environment.

7:11

And whereas public responders use traffic incident management training skills, training and skills to safely and quickly clear scenes to improve the safety of our road users.

7:23

And whereas, as of September 23rd, 2024, during this year, 28 first responders that were working on the roadway have been struck and killed, including 13 law enforcement officers, three fire EMS professionals, seven tow operators, one road safety profession professional, and four department of transportation workers, two of which were Colorado DOT employees.

7:51

And whereas one death is too many.

7:54

And whereas drunk, drug, drowsy, distracted, and dangerous drivers are a threat to our respondent safety.

8:02

And whereas the city of Pebble asks all road users to do their part to keep everyone responding to traffic incidents on our highways safe, slowing down, moving over, and driving safe.

8:16

And whereas the state of Colorado has a new waiver law requiring drivers to slow down and move over when approaching an emergency vehicle, a tapework or a highway maintenance vehicle, the purpose of rights are activated, and whereas there is a need for public to be educated dangers of failing to abide by these laws in the week of November 18th to the 22nd is recognized nationally as Crash Responder Safety Week.

8:46

Now, therefore, we the City Council or the City of Pueblo, Colorado by the authority vested in us to hereby proclaim the week of November 18th to the 22nd, 2024 as Colorado Crash Responder Safety Week in the City of Pueblo and urge our citizens to reduce your speed as you proceed.

9:08

In witness where I have hearing two set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Pueblo, Colorado to be affixed this 11th day of November 2024.

9:22

Just want to thank everybody for the recognition.

9:31

And this proclamation says a lot.

9:33

So thank you very much for everybody.

10:21

Okay, we'll now move into public forum.

10:25

First up, Red Vana.

10:34

Hello, Mr.

10:34

Holy.

10:35

Thank you for coming.

10:36

Thank you.

10:38

Council.

10:45

Thank everybody.

10:46

First and foremost, thank you for the uh bungalow in the Irish area.

10:50

I didn't realize it was that big.

10:52

Thank you.

10:53

Brett A.

10:54

Bayer.

10:54

I'm here for multiple situations.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Works███████████████████19%
Procedural███████████11%
Arts And Culture███████████11%
Budget Equity Analysis████████8%
Economic Development████████8%
Public Engagement████████8%
Transportation Safety████████8%
Public Safety█████5%
Education█████5%
Summary of Proceedings

Pueblo City Council Regular Meeting - November 12, 2024

The Pueblo City Council held a regular meeting on November 12, 2024 (note: the agenda and transcript list the date as Monday, November 11, 2024; the provided date is used per instructions). The meeting included proclamations honoring law enforcement records personnel and crash responder safety, public testimony on budget cuts to cultural and educational institutions, council commentary on sales tax revenue and shelter operations, and votes on several resolutions and ordinances. A key debate centered on a proposed street repair utility rate study, which ultimately failed.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved all items on the consent agenda unanimously, including:
    • M1: $400,000 consulting agreement with DiExSys, LLC for the Pueblo Area Comprehensive Safety Action Plan.
    • M2: $160,874 amendment with Brown and Caldwell for wastewater pipeline rehabilitation.
    • M3: $149,500 master plan for City Park and Arkansas River Corridor (with $25,500 contingency).
    • M4: $136,693.50 construction contract for ADA curb ramps (CDBG).
    • M6-M17: Various transfers, agreements, permits, appointments, and approvals (including YMCA Turkey Trot, Black Hills Energy easement, ARPA trash removal, and standard construction specifications).
    • N1-N9: First presentation ordinances (budget, mill levies, Real Time Crime Center, Axon body cameras, soccer field MOU, cabaret license repeal, natural medicine misuse) set for public hearing on November 25, 2024.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Brett A. Bayer (Chamber of Commerce board) expressed concern over proposed cuts to Visit Pueblo funding (from $950,000 to $700,000), noting a potential $10 million economic impact. He also questioned spending $1.3 million on a surgery center for law offices when the Bok Building could be used.
  • Carmen Ortiaga, Maria Tiaga, and Mary Allen Berciago spoke in support of continued city funding for the Sangre de Cristo Arts and Conference Center, emphasizing its educational, cultural, and economic benefits. Ortiaga called a cut "a major red flag."
  • Abby Craft (Executive Director, Pueblo Zoo) requested the council "straightline" the zoo's budget at 2024 levels, citing a $20 million economic impact (per a June 2024 CSU Pueblo study), $169,000 in project/capital grants raised in 2023, and that the city's share of expenses has remained stable. She warned that a 15% cut (similar to 2012) would lead to deficit spending.
  • Anne Casey (Director of Education, Pueblo Zoo) shared that in 2023 the zoo served over 11,000 children through school programs and field trips, and that a budget cut would hamper an already lean staff (13 people).
  • Eleonora Baptili spoke against the "interference with a city employee" ordinance, calling the term "vague" and a potential civil rights issue.

Discussion Items

  • M5 – Street Repair Utility Rate Study: Council debated the necessity of a $44,999 study (with $50,000 total budget) required by ordinance every two years. Andrew Hayes (Director of Public Works) explained the study would update fee structures to sustain road maintenance, noting that current $10 million/year investment is insufficient. Councilors Aliff, Boston, Flores, Gomez, Latino, and Maestri opposed, arguing the utility is unpopular, difficult to collect, and that a sales tax ballot measure (like Colorado Springs' 2C) would be more equitable. Councilor Martinez supported the study to inform future decisions. The motion to approve failed 6-1 (Martinez yes; Aliff, Boston, Flores, Gomez, Latino, Maestri no).
  • R1 – Interference with a City Employee: Ordinance adding a municipal offense for interfering with city employees, officials, and contractors. Council heard public testimony against it (vagueness, lack of equal protection). Councilor Gomez questioned whether council members are employees; City Attorney clarified they are elected officials. The ordinance passed 5-2 (Aliff, Boston, Flores, Maestri, Martinez yes; Gomez, Latino no).
  • R2 – Damaging/Destroying Property: Amended class levels to align with state law: property damage $0-$999 remains a class 2 offense (no jail); $1,000-$1,999 becomes class 1 (potential jail time). Passed 7-0.
  • S1 – Rezoning: Rezoning former CDOT property (2.39 acres to I-3, 2.72 acres to I-2) to allow continued use as operations headquarters. Passed 7-0.

Key Outcomes

  • Failed Motion: M5 (street repair utility rate study) – 1 yes, 6 no.
  • Approved Resolutions: Q1 ($1,000 to Historic Pueblo Inc. for Damon Days Banquet) – 7-0.
  • Approved Ordinances (Final Presentation): R1 (Interference with City Employee) – 5-2; R2 (Property damage class levels) – 7-0; S1 (Rezoning) – 7-0.
  • Consent Agenda: All resolutions and first-presentation ordinances approved unanimously.
  • Upcoming: Public hearings on budget and other first-presentation ordinances set for November 25, 2024. Councilor Flores indicated he will propose amendments to the budget before that hearing.

Meeting Transcript

Welcome on another beautiful evening in Pueblo, Colorado. Tonight is Monday, November 11th, 2024. And I call the regular city council meeting to order. First off is our invitation, Pastor Wood, Pastor Kim Wood from the Avenue Church. Please join us if you want. Stand for the prayer, and then we'll be the Pledge of Allegiance. Each issue that's going to be presented before the council. God, we pray that it would be presented fairly and clearly. We pray for discernment and wisdom for this council who have been elected to govern over us and for us. And so we pray for favor and our wisdom. God, we also want to give you great thanks for all the veterans that have served our country. And as this day is Veterans Day, God, we we thank them and honor them. And we also ask for your protection of all current uh servicemen and women who are in dangerous uh way uh overseas as well as uh here at home. We pray for our law enforcement and for our first responders, our fire. Uh God, we just pray for their safety and their well-being as they're out on the streets taking care of our city tonight. So, God, we thank you for this opportunity. We pray for um uh ears to hear and uh hearts to listen, and in all things, God, for the good of our community in Jesus' name, amen. And to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, your God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Pastor Warden. We now move on to Red Hall. Here, Loston. Right? General Tino, here Regina Maestre. Here, Sam Martinez here. Well, I'll account it for. Come on in here. So this is a proclamation for law enforcement records personnel week, november 4th, 38th, 2024. Whereas dedicated law enforcement records personnel are crucial to assisting law enforcement agencies in identifying, pursuing, capturing, and processing suspects. And whereas Pueblo Police Department records personnel diligently serve the community of Portro by exhibiting professionalism, efficiency, and compassion during the performance of their essential duties. Now therefore, we need the City Council of the City of Pueblo, Colorado, by the authority vested in us to hereby proclaim the week of November, November 4th to 8th, 2024 as law enforcement records personnel week in the city of Pueblo and join in recognizing and expressing our appreciation for the behind-the-scenes work of law enforcement records personnel as they serve the Pueblo community at large and in multiple capacities throughout the police department. And witness where I have hearing two set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Predalo, Colorado to be affixed this 11th day of November 2024, signed by Nick. Congratulations. Whereas law enforcement officers, firefighters, public service utility, emergency medical personnel, road crews, and tow operators conduct valuable and often life-saving operations at the roadside. And whereas these on-seen personnel provide a critical public service and recall to duty at all hours of the day and night in adverse weather conditions and in a dangerous roadside environment. And whereas public responders use traffic incident management training skills, training and skills to safely and quickly clear scenes to improve the safety of our road users. And whereas, as of September 23rd, 2024, during this year, 28 first responders that were working on the roadway have been struck and killed, including 13 law enforcement officers, three fire EMS professionals, seven tow operators, one road safety profession professional, and four department of transportation workers, two of which were Colorado DOT employees. And whereas one death is too many. And whereas drunk, drug, drowsy, distracted, and dangerous drivers are a threat to our respondent safety. And whereas the city of Pebble asks all road users to do their part to keep everyone responding to traffic incidents on our highways safe, slowing down, moving over, and driving safe. And whereas the state of Colorado has a new waiver law requiring drivers to slow down and move over when approaching an emergency vehicle, a tapework or a highway maintenance vehicle, the purpose of rights are activated, and whereas there is a need for public to be educated dangers of failing to abide by these laws in the week of November 18th to the 22nd is recognized nationally as Crash Responder Safety Week. Now, therefore, we the City Council or the City of Pueblo, Colorado by the authority vested in us to hereby proclaim the week of November 18th to the 22nd, 2024 as Colorado Crash Responder Safety Week in the City of Pueblo and urge our citizens to reduce your speed as you proceed. In witness where I have hearing two set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Pueblo, Colorado to be affixed this 11th day of November 2024. Just want to thank everybody for the recognition. And this proclamation says a lot. So thank you very much for everybody. Okay, we'll now move into public forum. First up, Red Vana. Hello, Mr. Holy.

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