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Rockville Historic District Commission Meeting 02-2025: February 20, 2025

Meeting PortalThursday, February 20, 2025
BodyRockville, Maryland
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DateThursday, February 20, 2025
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0:02

Good evening.

0:02

Welcome to the city.

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Your mic.

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Your mic.

0:05

Your mic's not.

0:08

Good evening and welcome to the City of Rockville Historic District Commission meeting number 02-2025.

0:15

Today is Thursday, February 20th, 2025.

0:19

I'm HDC Chair Anita Neil Powell, and I am joined by my fellow commissioners, Seph Dimbo, Peter Falseman, Mercy Shingay, and Michael Goldfinger.

0:30

We're also joined by city staff.

0:33

Sheila Pasier, Preservation Planner, Katie Gerbis, comprehensive planning manager, and Cynthia Walters, Deputy City Attorney.

0:42

The historic district commissions are conduct are conducting hybrid meetings.

0:47

Applicants and the public may join the meeting virtually via WebEx or in person in the chambers.

0:53

The virtual meetings can be viewed on Rockville 11, Channel 11 on County Cable, and live stream at WW.Rockville MD.gov slash Rockville 11.

1:06

Each meeting is also available for viewing soon after the meeting is held at WW.

1:13

RockfieldMD slash video on demand.

1:17

The first item on the agenda is committee and organization report.

1:22

Started with a Peerless Rockville.

1:25

Is there anyone here from Peerless Rockville staff to give a staff report?

1:34

Yes, hi.

1:35

Good evening, Commissioner Neil Powell.

1:38

And fellow commissioners up there.

1:40

I'm Nancy Picard, executive director from Peerless Rockville.

1:44

Thank you for having me here this evening.

1:47

I often come in and talk a bit about events and things that we've been doing.

1:53

And tonight I wanted to kind of share a little bit more instead about another thing that we do, which is our archival collections and documents and the energy and the work that we do in that area and the things that are available to all the residents of the city and the county and really anyone.

2:15

At Peerless, we are proud to have a collection of objects, documents, and photographs dedicated to telling Rockville's story.

2:21

These collections are used both by people doing academic research and people just wanting to learn more about their community.

2:28

Two of our current projects involve increasing the availability and accessibility of these collections.

2:34

Utilizing a grant from Montgomery County, we undertook a large digitization project in 2023 and into 2024, involving digitizations of many different items.

2:47

Some specifics are things like ledgers, maps, architectural plans, and transparency slides.

2:55

Many of these items in particular are either too fragile or too large or in the wrong kind of format for people to view easily.

3:09

The project was undertaking to increase this access accessibility and preserve these fragile items.

3:16

Among the items are ledgers from businesses in Rockville, which are more than 100 years old.

3:22

And it is now possible to access the information contained in these ledgers without damaging the fragile items themselves.

3:38

Slides also need special equipment to view, which means many of them have not been seen for decades, not even often by Peerless Rockville staff.

3:49

Among the digitization project were 4,441 slides.

4:21

So that also will increase the accessibility.

4:24

Also coming up very soon will be a virtual exhibit on urban renewal.

4:30

And the nucleus of this exhibit is a collection of items received from the city in the early 2000s, containing property appraisals, photographs, architectural plans, and other documents, which give which gives insight into what Rockville was at that time, why the project took place and how people felt about the outcome.

4:50

I think people still have feelings about the outcome as we know the town center is ever developing and changing.

5:00

This online exhibit called Changing the Map will be available this spring and will also launch with an in-person event inviting people to share them their memories of how the city looked when they were young.

5:12

So thank you for sharing and uh follow along on our website for more information.

5:17

Thank you.

5:18

Thank you very much.

5:20

Any questions?

5:22

Yeah, Chairman.

5:23

Um Nancy, that's great.

5:26

I mean, I'm really excited to hear a lot of that stuff's been digitized.

5:29

I'm curious about the ledgers.

5:30

Have they been um have they been transcribed?

5:33

Are they searchable or is it just images?

5:36

Um no, it's not just images.

5:39

I believe most of the almost all the ledgers are in PDF forms.

5:43

It should be OCR searchable.

5:45

We have ledgers um definitely for wire hardware.

5:49

I believe we also have one or two medical ledgers that are kind of interesting.

5:54

The wire hardware records um just in isolation.

6:00

Some of these records don't say a lot, you know.

6:03

You kind of look at it and you think, okay, somebody brought, you know, uh whatever they bought, you know, uh hay and you know, sewing supplies or whatever, but it really, if you page through and read and look at it, you get just a just a picture of what life was really like and changes over time.

6:25

Um the medical ledgers, some one collection that we have actually the uh doctor worked at the poor farm for some part of time.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████71%
Procedural██████10%
Public Engagement████6%
Community Engagement███5%
Urban Planning███4%
Zoning And Land Use2%
Budget Equity Analysis2%
Summary of Proceedings

Rockville Historic District Commission Meeting 02-2025: February 20, 2025

The Rockville Historic District Commission (HDC) held meeting 02-2025 on Thursday, February 20, 2025, at 12:00 PM (UTC). Chair Anita Neil Powell presided, with Commissioners Seph Dimbo, Peter Falseman, Mercy Shingay, and Michael Goldfinger present. Staff included Sheila Pasier (Preservation Planner), Katie Gerbis (Comprehensive Planning Manager), and Cynthia Walters (Deputy City Attorney). The meeting covered organizational reports, a consent agenda, a demolition evaluation, and discussions on historic preservation initiatives.

Committee & Organization Reports

  • Peerless Rockville: Executive Director Nancy Picard presented a report on the organization's archival collections. She detailed a digitization project funded by a Montgomery County grant (2023–2024) that digitized over 4,441 slides, ledgers, maps, and architectural plans. The project aims to preserve fragile items and increase public access. An upcoming virtual exhibit, "Changing the Map," will focus on urban renewal in Rockville and launch this spring with an in-person event.
  • Lincoln Park Historical Foundation: The president announced the annual Gospel Train Ride to Freedom event on Saturday, February 22, 2025, from 4–6 PM at Mount Calvary Baptist Church. The event will celebrate the foundation's 48th anniversary and the 20th anniversary of the Leroy E. Neil African American Research Center. Activities will include intergenerational conversations, cultural performances, and original artwork.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments were made during the open forum.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes of January 16, 2025: Commissioner Falseman noted minor errors (the heading incorrectly stated "convened virtually" and a note under item HDC 2025-1180 misstated the motion). The commission approved the minutes with corrections by a unanimous vote of 5-0.

Discussion Items

  • Historic Preservation Work Plan: Staff reported that three working groups have concluded, and staff are focusing on codification and strengthening historic preservation code language. An update will be brought to the commission at a spring meeting.
  • Preservation Month Event: Commissioners Falseman and Goldfinger proposed a joint event with other municipalities (e.g., Gaithersburg, Takoma Park, Washington Grove) on Saturday, May 17, 2025, from 10 AM to 2 PM at the Gray Courthouse (rented for 9 AM–3 PM for under $200). The theme would center on sustainability and historic properties. Commissioners considered inviting M-NCPPC and Montgomery College as partners. Commissioner Dimbo noted that May 17 coincides with the Brown v. Board of Education anniversary, which could be incorporated.
  • New Business – Community Character and Post-War Housing: Commissioner Goldfinger raised concerns about the loss of post-WWII modest homes being replaced by larger houses, altering neighborhood character. Staff supported the need for a citywide survey to identify intact neighborhoods. This led to a broader discussion about preservation and education.
  • Mayor's Suggestions and Wayfinding Signage: Commissioner Goldfinger relayed suggestions from Mayor Ashton, including involvement in the US 250th anniversary, comprehensive planning, and adding historic plaques. The commission discussed the need for better wayfinding signage and historic district markers. Staff noted that a previous wayfinding study was paused and that historic plaque inventory letters are being sent to property owners.
  • Budget Advocacy: Commissioner Falseman proposed sending a letter to the Mayor and Council requesting funding for wayfinding/historic signage. Staff provided budget hearing dates: March 17, March 24, and April 7, 2025. Commissioner Falseman volunteered to draft the letter and a map, with the goal of submitting it before the budget cycle. The commission expressed unanimous support for this action.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved the January 16, 2025 meeting minutes with corrections (5-0).
  • Recommended against historic designation for 109 Charles Street (HDC 2025-01881) (5-0), allowing demolition to proceed. The applicant, Stan Karadeva, stated the house’s front setback (24 feet) prevented an addition, leading to the demolition request. The commission encouraged donating salvaged materials (e.g., storm doors) to Habitat for Humanity.
  • Agreed to hold the Preservation Month event on May 17, 2025, pending final confirmation from all commissioners.
  • Agreed to send a letter to the Mayor and Council regarding wayfinding and historic signage, with Commissioner Falseman drafting it and a map by the next day.
  • Adjourned unanimously (5-0).

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. Welcome to the city. Your mic. Your mic. Your mic's not. Good evening and welcome to the City of Rockville Historic District Commission meeting number 02-2025. Today is Thursday, February 20th, 2025. I'm HDC Chair Anita Neil Powell, and I am joined by my fellow commissioners, Seph Dimbo, Peter Falseman, Mercy Shingay, and Michael Goldfinger. We're also joined by city staff. Sheila Pasier, Preservation Planner, Katie Gerbis, comprehensive planning manager, and Cynthia Walters, Deputy City Attorney. The historic district commissions are conduct are conducting hybrid meetings. Applicants and the public may join the meeting virtually via WebEx or in person in the chambers. The virtual meetings can be viewed on Rockville 11, Channel 11 on County Cable, and live stream at WW.Rockville MD.gov slash Rockville 11. Each meeting is also available for viewing soon after the meeting is held at WW. RockfieldMD slash video on demand. The first item on the agenda is committee and organization report. Started with a Peerless Rockville. Is there anyone here from Peerless Rockville staff to give a staff report? Yes, hi. Good evening, Commissioner Neil Powell. And fellow commissioners up there. I'm Nancy Picard, executive director from Peerless Rockville. Thank you for having me here this evening. I often come in and talk a bit about events and things that we've been doing. And tonight I wanted to kind of share a little bit more instead about another thing that we do, which is our archival collections and documents and the energy and the work that we do in that area and the things that are available to all the residents of the city and the county and really anyone. At Peerless, we are proud to have a collection of objects, documents, and photographs dedicated to telling Rockville's story. These collections are used both by people doing academic research and people just wanting to learn more about their community. Two of our current projects involve increasing the availability and accessibility of these collections. Utilizing a grant from Montgomery County, we undertook a large digitization project in 2023 and into 2024, involving digitizations of many different items. Some specifics are things like ledgers, maps, architectural plans, and transparency slides. Many of these items in particular are either too fragile or too large or in the wrong kind of format for people to view easily. The project was undertaking to increase this access accessibility and preserve these fragile items. Among the items are ledgers from businesses in Rockville, which are more than 100 years old. And it is now possible to access the information contained in these ledgers without damaging the fragile items themselves. Slides also need special equipment to view, which means many of them have not been seen for decades, not even often by Peerless Rockville staff. Among the digitization project were 4,441 slides. So that also will increase the accessibility. Also coming up very soon will be a virtual exhibit on urban renewal. And the nucleus of this exhibit is a collection of items received from the city in the early 2000s, containing property appraisals, photographs, architectural plans, and other documents, which give which gives insight into what Rockville was at that time, why the project took place and how people felt about the outcome. I think people still have feelings about the outcome as we know the town center is ever developing and changing. This online exhibit called Changing the Map will be available this spring and will also launch with an in-person event inviting people to share them their memories of how the city looked when they were young. So thank you for sharing and uh follow along on our website for more information. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any questions? Yeah, Chairman. Um Nancy, that's great. I mean, I'm really excited to hear a lot of that stuff's been digitized. I'm curious about the ledgers. Have they been um have they been transcribed?

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