Good evening. Welcome to the April 17th, 2025, Active Transportation Commission. The meeting

is now called to order. Will the clerk please call the roll to establish a quorum?

Thank you, Chair. Commissioners, please unmute. Commissioner Harris. Present.

Commissioner Gibson is absent. Commissioner Wadwani. Present. Commissioner Littiger. Present.

Vice Chair Gonzalez. Here. Commissioner Hoppe. Here. Commissioner Hayat. Here. Commissioner Moore.

Present. Commissioner Cruz. Here. Commissioner Banks. Here. And Chair Hodel. Here. Thank you,

Wabble Quorum. Thank you. I would like to remind members of the public and chambers that if you

would like to speak on an agenda item, please turn in a speaker slip when the item begins. You will

have two minutes to speak once you are called on. After the first speaker, we will no longer

accept speaker slips. We will now proceed with today's agenda. Please rise for the opening

acknowledgments in honor of Sacramento's Indigenous people and tribal lands. To the

original people of this land, the Nisanon people, the southern Maidu Valley and Plains Miwok,

Patwin-Winton peoples, and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally

recognized tribe. May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still

walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather together today in the active

practice of acknowledgment and appreciation for Sacramento's Indigenous peoples history,

contributions, and lives. Thank you. Please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge

allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Our first business today is the Commission's staff report. Staff, you may proceed.

Thank you, Chair Hodel. Hello, everybody. Jennifer Donlon-Wyatt, Mobility and Sustainability

Division Manager. Very good to be with you this evening. I have a couple of updates for you.

If you remember about a year, year and a half ago, we applied to the Federal Reconnecting

Communities Grant Program, a grant program designed to address barriers caused to communities harmed

by the building of freeways and highways, and we were selected for Old North Sacramento. We'll be

going to City Council tomorrow, I don't know tomorrow, goodness gracious, next week to establish the

project and to accept the funds so that we can move forward to begin that planning work.

That is for Del Paso area, Old North Sacramento. Very excited for that.

If you don't get our newsletter, you might not have seen, and I encourage everybody to sign up

for our newsletter, that we broke ground on our Franklin Boulevard Complete Streets project on

March 27th. We're really excited for that. It includes separated bikeways, trees, place making

on Franklin Boulevard. As many of you know, but just to reiterate, the Transportation Safety

Quick Builds Initiative was approved by Council last month, so we'll be moving forward with the

efforts to support that and make that happen. Save May 28th is a save the date for the annual

City staff-led May is Bike Month, Bike Ride. Jeff's organizing it, so I was going to tell us

what we're doing, but I'm not 100% sure what we're doing. But come join us, I will be there, Jeff

will be there. We're going to have a fun ride throughout the city, check out some of our new

infrastructure, and wind up at a place where we can hang out. So that is May 28th. And then

about five o'clock, sign up for our newsletter because in that you'll get the information to

sign up because we want to make sure you all sign waivers before you join us. And then last but

not least, I'm sure you'll all be excited to hear that the Work Zone Detour Policy will be moving

to council for their input and approval in May. We got past the long processes that were internal

to the city and we're hoping May 13th is our date we've asked for. We'll get confirmation in a couple

weeks that's the actual date. And with that, that is my update. Thank you.

Thank you.

Did you want to mention something about the change about instead of okay, wait, what is it,

instead of review and comment versus those changes?

Chair Honell, I'm happy to. So we have a new process that was rolled out by the city clerk's

office and maybe Sapphire can give a little bit more input. But what we used to have is

receive and file and sometimes we'd have comments on that and that'd be a big discussion item.

Moving forward, receive and file is literally that, receive and file. It's not going to be a big

comment and discussion agenda item. Most likely those are the things that are going to be on

consent. And then we have a new, it used to be review and comment. Now we have review, comment,

and provide direction. And so those are going to be the items where we bring to you a concept and

you provide us input as a commission on things that you'd like to see. To be clear, you're not

providing direction to staff. Again, only council and city manager can provide direction to staff,

but you're providing your input through that type of process. So that is new. This is the first

month in which you rolled out. Also new is our new process for including presentations with staff

reports. We were a bit of a rush to get that in this time because that was a very new thing as

our colleague Devin was getting ready to roll it out for this month's agenda items. But moving

forward, you'll see the agenda's process with the staff reports. Thank you, Chair Hodel. Thank you.

Our first business today, oh wait a minute. Next is the approval of the consent calendar,

clerk. Are there any members of the public who wish to speak on the consent calendar?

Thank you, Chair. I have no speaker slips on this item.

Okay. Thank you. Are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item?

Vice Chair Gonzalez. Thank you, Chair. I think it's just a matter of words.

But if we look at the minutes from last month and item three,

the outcome is passed an amended motion, recommending that the city council approve

the amendments proposed by the airport self industrial annexation project to the master plan

as discussed. I just think the word buy should be four. Amendments proposed for the airport

self industrial annexation project because otherwise it sounds like we heard amendments proposed

almost by the project applicant, but it wasn't the project that made the amendments. This body

did. So I just like to recommend we change the word buy to four. Thank you. I see no one else.

May I have a motion and a second? I'll move to approve with the amendment. And I'll second it.

I have a motion by commissioner helped and a second by vice chair Gonzalez. Will the clerk

please call the roll for the vote. Thank you, Chair. Commissioner Harris. Hi.

Commissioner Gibson is absent. Commissioner Wadwani. Hi. Commissioner Littigard. Yes.

Vice chair Gonzalez. Yep. Commissioner hot. Hi.

Commissioner Hyatt. Yes. Commissioner more. Hi.

Commissioner Cruz. Yes. Commissioner banks. I and chair hotel. Yes. Thank you. The motion passes.

We will now proceed to the discussion calendar. Item number three is the pedestrian crossing

enhancements 2025 project. Is there a staff presentation? Yes. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Members of the commission for having me speak

about this project. My name is Devin Paulson. I'm an associate electric engineer with the

department of public works here to talk about the pedestrian crossing enhancements 2025 project.

Okay. I'll try a little tall. Sorry. So the pedestrian crossing enhancements 2025 project

involves four unsignalized intersections throughout the city shown on the location map.

These locations were selected by our traffic engineering group looking at major roadways

with deficient crosswalks. So this is the next four that we're trying to get up to code. Yes.

So we're in district two, district three and two locations in district four.

So what we're installing RFB's definition from the office of safety,

basically just do enhanced driver awareness. The flashing lights, the alternating flashing lights,

you know, better than a crosswalk. It'll let someone know that somebody is crossing.

It's much more conspicuous. Yeah. And so each RFB is also going to be equipped with what they call

an audible information device. It's similar to something I'll be talking about later, an APS device,

but the difference is with these. So like an APS, they have a touchless actuation. You can do a

hand wave instead of or press it. But instead of the APS, it doesn't tell you what street you're

crossing. It's just going to provide a tone because RFB's you're not going to have two cross streets.

So you only really need to know when to cross.

Here are a couple of examples of existing conditions. We have these are the two locations in

district four on X street on 22nd and 23rd. So what we're proposing on 22nd, we have two crosswalks.

So we're going to have new RFB's for each crosswalk along with those AID push buttons.

And also a new master arm streetlight. I believe yeah, there's one existing on that southwest

corner. Then we're going to put another one on the northeast corner to better illuminate that

crosswalk. And then at X and 23rd, we only have a single crosswalk. So it's going to be two RFB's

with a new master arm streetlight. On the left, we have San Juan Road in Gilamot Drive.

This has existing street lighting. So all we need to do we're just going to be adding RFB's and the

existing curb ramps don't have truncated domes. So we're going to be adding those as well.

And Mary'sville Boulevard and Main Avenue. This is probably the most difficult intersection for us.

We're going to be replacing that overhead beacon with RFB's. The beacon, we're kind of phasing

those out. The RFB's are doing a much better job at indicating when a pedestrian's actually

in the intersection. The issue with this is the curb ramps are very deficient. So we're actually

working with a couple people in our civil department. We're going to be reconstructing

both curb ramps on either side of that crosswalk and repairing the roadway for, I think it's 100

or 200 feet along Mary'sville Boulevard. So here's an example of a

example of a crosswalk. This is actually a la Verveira. It's not J Street. But it's an example

of an RFB crossing. So we have the buttons on either side. I don't know if you can really see

them, but they have the right underneath the crosswalk signage. And so if you press that button,

all of the lights will start flashing and let cars know that someone's trying to cross the

intersection. And so each installation area requires, in addition to the actual RFB lights,

we have the controller box, which can be mounted either above or behind the signage. And it's,

I think you can see it, it's right above the sign in the middle there. And this example is actually

a solar powered. So you can see the solar panel on top of that pole too. Ours are all going to be

hardwired. So it makes it easier for our maintenance staff to not have to go out and replace the

batteries or solar panels. And here's the our proposed schedule and budget. We're just starting

design. So we're anticipating finishing up design this summer, getting to City Council in fall,

and hopefully beginning construction spring of next year. And the total project cost is going

to be about $1.26 million. That's all I got. Any questions?

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?

Thank you, Chair. I have one speaker's lips for this item. Our first speaker is Matt Anderson.

Good evening, everyone. Matt Anderson, District 4. I want to say thanks for this project.

I'm excited about, excited about it and excited that there are other features like lighting

upgrades and safety aspects going into this. Sorry if I repeat some of my comments I left online.

But really the biggest question I have about this is I know there are mixed feelings about RRFBs

in this group. And I'm wondering for the $1.2 million price tag if we could actually see some

improvements to the roadway. I'm thinking about X Street specifically. Could we remove a lane there?

I think it has a relatively low ADT. It's a really long crossways, like 48 feet to get across.

The safer option would be just fewer feet to go across where you're in conflict with cars.

So I'm just curious if that's something the city would actually consider there rather than just

trying to make drivers more aware. Because I'd rather just not be in conflict with cars more.

Also on the mixed reviews, I'm curious if the city has actually

done any reviews about the effectiveness of RRFBs locally, regionally. As much as I love the FHWA,

I'm not sure all their stats apply here in cities. And if not, because limited staff time, I get it.

Maybe this could be an opportunity to do something. We know where they're going in.

Could do some pre-surveys, check it out. And then final bonus question for the planners and

engineers is if these RRFBs don't work out, what warrant or trigger will there be to upgrade to

the next level of safety, be that Hawks or PHBs or whatever it is? Sorry for all the comments

and questions. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you for your comment, Chair. I have no more

speakers on this item. Thank you. And there are commissioners who would like to speak on this

item. Vice Chair Gonzales. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Devin, for the presentation. I appreciate

it very much. You may have been forward-warrant, so don't take this personally. But I hate RRFBs.

I hate them. I don't think they're effective at all. Not in Sacramento, anyways. Sacramento is a

very unique kind of driver. We have our own attitudes about the rules of the road, and this is

sometimes taken as a suggestion or otherwise outright ignored in my experience, in my observations.

I also am concerned because it provides maybe a false sense of illusion to pedestrians that they

have somehow gained the right away and think they're safe to enter traffic. So that also concerns

me as well. And to echo the public comment, I absolutely agree that a million point two dollars,

in my opinion, would be better used in making changes to the roadway that was more conducive to

slowing down speeds, allowing pedestrians some refuge and shortening their trip across a crosswalk.

That's my opinion. I also have to say, you know, I know that often we pursue these because they're

grant-funded and the state or whomever likes to pay for them, and we like to say, oh, good,

we had some money, let's put them in. I am disheartened, actually, that we're spending

transportation funds on this. Like when I saw that, I was like, wow, I don't think it's a good

use of the limited resources that we have in the city. I know we have very limited resources

and, you know, high, high need. So I'm actually also concerned that we're using that funds.

Grant money, grant money, you know, grant money is can be used for purposes and we put in good

applications and sometimes rapid flashing beacons or what a win some, but I am disheartened that

we're using general fund or transportation funds to use this. I would love to see more changes to

the built environment, but thank you very much for the presentation. Well, actually, you know,

a lot of people in the department agree with you and going forward after this project,

we're just going to be doing fully signalized intersections. So thank you. And I, again, like

I know you're an awesome person and you care about people in the city and I don't,

you know, I don't want you to take it personally. I know I also have a reputation of people say,

I, I case those things. I've heard it from staff. Don't put those in commissioners. All

this doesn't like them. I'm just kind of beating the drum, but I'm heartening here that I'm heartening

here. Some of the other changes I think that have occurred based on comments from this,

this body to propose RFP is that actually didn't go in. So I'm glad the city's listening and

I'm glad we're making a sea change. Thank you. Commissioner Harris.

Thank you for the presentation. I'm excited to see some safety features on Mary's Boulevard and

district two. I do want to know what sort of interactions you've had with the community

or was this supported by the community associations in Robla or others. I also have heard

recently at the Del Paso Heights community meeting a desire for signalized crossing on

Mary's Boulevard. So if you could just talk about whether this is, if this has been

discussed and what their thoughts are on the proposed project.

No, we haven't really done a lot of community outreach for this. Yeah, I was sort of

handed these four intersections. And so I guess during design, yeah, we're going to be reaching

out and seeing if the public in these areas has any other comment, but not at this time.

Yeah, well, I think it'd be great. And I, I don't want to speak on behalf of the residents there.

They know best. But I think it would be very helpful to get their input. I know they meet

regularly. And if you need me to help facilitate, I'm getting into contact

with that community, I'd be happy to do so. Thank you.

Thank you. Commissioner Hyatt.

Thank you, Mr. Paulson. And I echo what commission or vice chair Gonzales says that, you know,

these, they're, these type of intersections provide pedestrians a false sense of security and many

drivers don't obey them. However, I do think it's an improvement to, you know, a standard crosswalk.

And one problem that I do have with them is that they typically flash yellow, which

to many drivers signals speed up because I got to get through here. So I wonder if this does go

through and you guys, we continue on with this as planned. If we can have the lights at least

flash red or some type of other visual representation of you need to stop now. Some of it. There's

a pedestrian here. That's about it. Yeah, we can definitely look at other options to yet worn drivers.

There are crosswalks like that where they stop the traffic.

Hopefully. Yeah. Commissioner Banks. Thanks. Thanks for the presentation.

Curious about how you guys made the decision to get to our RFBs. Excuse me.

Versus fully signalized or doing nothing or something else in between. Is it financial?

We could get more done with dollars available. Yeah, I would say it's mostly financial. I mean,

the, the cost of a fully signalized intersection versus RFBs is it's a huge difference. It's not

it's not even like a double. It's way more than that. It can be five times as much easily. So

yeah, it's it's mostly a cost issue. So if we were to try to do a fully signalized intersection

for this project, for example, we probably only be able to do two locations instead of four.

Yeah, at most because I'm in their camp about our RFBs being more suggestion than a full on

signal. So I almost would rather have the quality thing that will stop vehicles,

hopefully, although we know a lot of red light driving, you know, people speed through red lights.

But that's a much larger type of a barrier or implementational thing and maybe go with those

two places over three for something that's a little bit more of a suggestion. Yeah, I think

we're all on the same page now. So yeah, going forward, we got a little bit smaller projects

probably, but yeah, with fully signalized. Thanks. Commissioner Wadwani.

Thank you very much for the presentation. Just a question out of curiosity. How did you arrive at

these four specific crossings as the one that you're one that you're addressing?

There's a list was put together by city staff of intersections along major roadways with

non-compliant intersections. I don't know how they how those intersections were prioritized,

but these four, yeah, from from that group.

Commissioner, if I may weigh in. So what our partners in traffic engineering did,

and this was a while ago, it takes a while for us to get to the process to actually get to this

point is identify where we have existing marked uncontrolled crossings. So where we have marked

crosswalks that are not at a signal, a stop sign or other sort of enhancement. Then did an evaluation

of where are they? Are they on higher speed, higher value roadways? How do we get some

enhancements in there quickly, quickly in our realm? This, of course, is before our transportation

safety initiative and working through the process. So these were chosen because they are on higher

speed, higher value roadways without enhancements. And we use the little dollars we had to put some

enhancements in there. Thanks. That's very helpful. Thank you. Commissioner, Lisae Cruz.

I wanted to go back to Commissioner Hyatt's point. I was just curious if there were any sort of

studies that have been conducted, maybe not by the city or maybe other municipalities on how color

of the actual flashing beacon would make a difference. Have there been any studies on that,

or have there been any other cities that have actually implemented this?

So I don't know about I haven't read anything about different colors. The FHWA, their statistics on

RFBs in general, are they about double drivers ability or the conspicuousness of the pedestrian?

So makes it twice as effective. I'm not sure if other colors would help, but that's something

we could look into. Commissioner, if I may add, the tools that we use, whether it is the pedestrian

crossing sign, the RFB with the flashing yellow or pedestrian hybrid beacons and the colors in

they are all prescribed. The city does not have any leverage on what those are. There you'll hear

us often talk about the California Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices and the Highway

Design Manual. We use those standards for consistency across California cities. So when you are in

West Sacramento, Davis, Oakland, San Francisco, you know everybody knows what these tools mean.

In order to have something that is not in the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices,

is actually a specific process to request to experiment. That is an expensive process to

experiment. It's not something the city of Sacramento has endeavored to do, but if other

cities have the financial resources to do that, we will follow that and see what the outcomes are.

And if it is incorporated into the California Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices,

it will be a tool that we can use. Yeah, and that was my exact point was if

since we have to follow consistency through the MUTCD, you know, there would be a possible loss

of funding too, I would assume, if we undergo this without permission. Implementation of tools

that are not in the MUTCD mean that they are they will not be fundable through standard resources,

but it also opens the city to liability challenges because then if somebody is hurt at a location

where we don't have a standard treatment, the concern will be that we didn't apply standard

treatments and why not and was that lack of standard treatment a cause for the incident

or whatever happens. Thank you. Commissioner Moore. Thank you for the presentation. Can you touch

a little bit more on the decision and the information that supported it to remove the existing

overhead beacon on Marysville to replace with an RRFB? Yeah, I don't know the

exact process, but from Hawkeye's Bay or the overhead flashing beacons are not as effective as

RFB's at notifying drivers. The RFB's they rapidly flash, so it's a lot better at getting some of

the tension versus just like a sort of a pulsing light. Okay, I trust all of your engineering

expertise and everything. It just seemed like with that and in that environment with a really high

speed road that doesn't have any kind of additional stops required, having something that is maybe

easier to see overhead did seem more appropriate than some of the other locations where I could see

an R. Go ahead. I see your confusion. Sorry. So that mask arm that the beacons are currently on,

we're going to reuse that for the RFB. So they're actually going to be over it. It's going to be

in the same spot basically just much brighter and easier than concerns called. Thank you.

Thank you. I see no more commissioners who wish to speak. This item, thank you very much for

your presentation. This item is review, comment, and provide direction so no vote is required.

We will move on to the next item, which is audible signals phase two project. Is there a staff

presentation? Yes, there is. Yes, and he's ready already. All right, so yeah, this is for the

audible signals phase two project. Devin Paulson, social engineering. So this is a much bigger

and scope project. We have 14 locations throughout the city. We're going to be adding either APS

push buttons, reconstructing curb ramps or both. And all of these locations are part of our

citizen's request program and we're selected based on requests from citizens with disabilities.

It's probably hard to see, but the location map is also included in the attachments.

It shows all 14 locations. We have a pretty good spread of the districts covered. And actually,

this there is a mistake. I forgot to correct this. I corrected on the location map attachment, but

in district one, the trucks will road and gateway park Boulevard and north freeway Boulevard and

gateway park Boulevard are actually in district three. So yeah, we have locations in districts one,

two, three, four and five. So what is an APS? I mentioned AIDs in the previous presentation.

These are sort of the upgraded version of that for intersections. They provide audible and

vibrotactile information, letting pedestrians know when the walk interval for the crosswalk begins.

So we're going to have the APS push buttons on every corner of the intersection. And they will

have touchless actuation like the AID devices. And they'll also have the custom voice message and

Braille, which will tell the person crossing the street, the name of the street and when it's a

when the walk sign is on. Here's a couple existing conditions.

The one on the left, Natomas Boulevard and Del Paso road. So we are going to be replacing the

existing push buttons with the APS push buttons and reconstructing that curb ramp. That's just

an example of one of the curb ramps that we're going to be fixing. And then on the right is

another example from a gateway park Boulevard. They're going to be installing new APS.

So this is an example of a installed APS, just all the equipment that we need. So the

besides the actual APS push buttons, which are shown in the top right, each system or each

intersections also get a control unit shown in the bottom right, which is going to live in the

traffic signal cabinet. And our proposed schedule is basically the same as the pedestrian crossing

enhancements project. I'm planning to go to council later this year in fall and begin construction,

hopefully spring of next year and finishing December of next year. Total project cost is 1.6

million. Thank you. Thank you.

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item?

Thank you, Chair. I have two speaker slips on this item. Our first speaker is Eugene Lozano.

Good evening. My name is Eugene Lozano Jr. I'm representing the ACB Capital Chapter,

the California Council of the Blind. It is a local chapter of the council based here in Sacramento.

We have members throughout the county, in the city, and Yolo County. We're in favor of this project,

particularly the 4th and I Street, which we placed a request for that in 2018,

and it will make the Amtrak station more accessible. And so we also hope that the

curb ramps will have the yellow detectable warnings as required by the California Building Code.

We do have concerns about the announcement that the speech messages that are being used for walk,

they're not the percussive tone that is required by the California MUTCD

Section 4E, 09 Standard 7.

The whole messaging system is not consistent with the rest of the state. And we would like

dialogue with the Department of Public Works to get that whole system

compliant with the MUTCD. It will then help visitors as well as individuals who reside in

this community to travel independently and not have different types of information from place to

place. And the last insert, it's out of order, but the blind are totally opposed to RFBs. We want

Hawks or full traffic signals in intersections. Thank you. Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is Matt Anderson.

Good evening again. I'm sorry I always boo the MUTCD. Megan, if you're listening,

it has very good points for standardization sometimes, and I appreciate that. I was going to

make a comment that it would be really cool to have Lavar Burton's voice on some of these,

but obviously I defer to the folks who are going to be using and needing them the most.

So I think that would be a really great dialogue. I hope Public Works does open that dialogue with

them. In conversations with folks that are visually impaired, I've also been told that

generally cars making a right hand turn movement are a significant danger as well. So I would be

great if the folks at Public Works could evaluate these intersections for any dangers that may occur

there. Also, this seems to be a pretty expensive project. Maybe it's just the curb ramps, hopefully

it's just the curb ramps, but just curious if there are signal timing changes happening as well or

other parts that weren't discussed in there. But overall, glad that this is happening, and thank

you all for doing this. Thank you for your comment, Chair. I have no more speakers on this item.

Thank you. Are there any commissioners who wish to speak on this item? Commissioner Harris.

Thank you for the staff presentation, and I want to thank the public for coming out and

making, giving us your expertise on this project. It is greatly appreciated, and I too support an

ongoing dialogue with the users and the communities who are experts in these particular technologies.

I also want to thank you particularly. I noted that we had the outline on the map, and you showed

where which districts were getting these facilities. So thank you. It's something I'm very

passionate about, and I'm really excited to see the Ethan and Arden. I think I have the intersection

correctly. That's an incredibly difficult intersection, and I appreciate that we are making

investment right on the county line. It's a tough spot, and I'm glad to see that going in. Thank you.

Vice Chair Gonzales. Thank you, Chair. Thank you for the presentation. Very good. I just

experienced one of these for the first time in Sacramento about two weeks ago. I was on the

corner of Watten Fair Oaks, which if you've ever had to cross, the most dangerous intersection

probably in Sacramento County, and it was very scary, and I pushed the button. I was already

scared anyways, but I pushed the button, and then this very raspy, gravelly, staticky voice told me

you can cross at Fair Oaks. I was like, whoa, God, thank you. I didn't know what was happening,

and then I experienced it again recently, actually right there on J Street, kind of near the Amtrak

station, and it was much more clear. It sounded automated instead of a recording by an individual,

so much more clear, and I'm looking forward to that being installed elsewhere. I have two questions,

I believe. Number one, I can't recall where I heard this, but I did hear, to echo Matt's point,

do these make leading pedestrian intervals more complicated or not? That's the first question.

Second question, and looking at the map of the proposed locations, it's nice to see them

kind of all over the city. I also know they're going in areas of the city where we have a lot of

Spanish speakers, and I also know that people of color are often mobility insecure, so they walk

a lot more. Is there any consideration to have Spanish as well coming out of these boxes?

You know, we actually just talked to the manufacturer about that, and yeah, there's an option where I

think if you hold down the button for like three seconds or something, it'll do the voice in English

and then in Spanish, so yeah, we can do that in those areas. Any illumination on the pedestrian

leading interval question? Sorry, can you repeat that question? So I can't remember what I was

talking to you, but basically I said that these buttons somehow make it even more difficult in

existing locations to install leading pedestrian intervals, you know, the delay between the

intersections going green and red and allowing the pedestrian to go, you know, a couple of seconds at

a time. You know, I haven't heard about that, but I can talk to RTOC about that. Yeah, I haven't heard

anything about that. Thank you. Commissioner Moore. Thank you for the presentation. I fully support

all of the comments from the public and fellow commissioners. It is also map related. If you

look at the map against the General Plans EJ community map, it almost is a complete inverse

of it. So I recognize that this is community derived, the location's there. I do find it hard

to believe that there are not any people with disabilities in our EJ communities who may bear

experience in the same conditions. So I mean, I want everyone to have them, but I think, you know,

that could be any number of reasons. Lack of awareness of this program, lack of resources to

engage in the program, lack of just trust in the city overall to address these. So I think I would

love to see the city do more potentially to kind of reach out to those communities and let them

know that this is available. Because I'd find it hard to believe that it would just naturally

not include those communities. So we just love to see the city do what they can to bring this

really cool, fantastic program to those communities. So they are aware of it and can engage.

Yeah, that's, we actually got a similar comment from the DAC about outreach to

communities who may not know about the program. So yeah, thank you.

Commissioner Banks.

Yeah. Thanks, Devin. I have a follow up question to Vice Chair Gonzalez is you said that it's

possible to create that option of having the signal be in English and or in Spanish.

Did I hear you correctly saying that the person on the side of the person at the cross would have

to hold the button down to get it in Spanish? You said something about three seconds.

Yeah, I believe so. I don't think the the hand wave would work with that. You would need to actually

press the button for, I'm not sure what the actual time, I believe it's three seconds, but yeah.

So how would anybody know to do that? I guess is my follow up.

Yeah, that would be another example of like community outreach. We need to tell people how to

use these buttons. So there's no way to just program the thing that says walk and then the

next time it says walk in Spanish, come be a come be a or whatever it is. Now that's pay. Sorry,

my Spanish is really bad. I could see that being possible. Yeah, I mean in communities where they

would want that option, we could look into that and just make it automatic. It could be helpful

because I can't imagine the education, you know, what that would look like to help people know

you have to hold on to this for three seconds to get it into a language that you might understand.

Right. It should also be written on the sign. I mean not just for sure, not just community outreach,

it should be there on the sign. If you want Spanish. Yeah, we could look into that.

Yeah, having additional signage to let people know to hold for Spanish.

Commissioner Hyatt.

Yeah, as far as that outreach would go, I mean, especially the blind community,

they would never even see the signage. But also the languages, I think that's a great

thing to bring up. Sacramento is an extremely diverse city. I wonder if we could, if in areas

like South Sacramento with a large Hmong community, Vietnamese community that those could also be

included, we have a lot of new refugees have arrived into Sacramento, perhaps Arabic,

in those areas where they're coming up. I know that we've got stuff all over the city here,

so I can't exactly think of exactly where each one would be. I don't have the map in front of me,

but those are just the considerations to be inclusive.

So yeah, I can check with them. I don't think that would be a problem programming,

you know, third languages or other languages. I need to check with our manufacturer, though,

but I think that's definitely a possibility. Commissioner Hyatt.

Thank you, Chair. Thanks for both presentations tonight. With regard to Mr. Lozano's concerns,

is there any opportunity to confer with that and other groups about concerns they may have?

So for phase one, we actually did talk with the Society of the Blind about some concerns they

had on Alhambra. So yeah, we are definitely going to be talking to a lot of different people about

this one because we always get comments about the APS. They're either too loud or not loud enough,

or yeah, we're always making adjustments on them. Great, thanks. Good to hear. Thank you.

Did you present to the Disabilities Commission? Don't we have a commission with...

For these two projects, yes, I presented last month.

Okay. Thank you. I see no more commissioners who wish to speak.

This item is review, comment, and provide direction so no vote is required, and we will

move on to the next item. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. The next item is Commissioner Comments,

Ideas, and Questions. Are there any commissioners who wish to speak?

Commissioner Halte.

I just want to say how gratified...

For those of you who don't know, that was, I believe, our first recommendation as a commission

just after being formed. So it's gratifying to hear it is finally coming. In what year was that?

2018. Okay, 2018.

Commissioner Banks.

Guess what time it is, everybody? May is Spike Month. 14 days till May is Spike Month. Tick,

talk, tick, talk. There are easily 50 events on the Saba calendar for May is Spike Month.

Please check them out. We're working on something in some of the districts. It would be awesome to do

something in every district in the city. So if you have an idea, come get in touch with me, ASAP,

because we're trying to keep one day a week safe, but that means six days a week have activities

going on. And there are a few days that still aren't busy, but hurry up. But we'd love, love, love to

do something. So get in touch, let's make something happen, and come out and participate in May.

Commissioner Harris.

Yeah, I want to thank the city. I attended a community meeting at

the Paso Heights community meeting a couple of weeks ago, and we did hear about the proposed

quick build program that is being discussed on Marysville Boulevard. The community is, I think,

both excited and looking to learn more about it for those of you who may not be aware, because I

think this is in the early phases. They're talking about doing a road diet for a, what they were

calling phase one of what was the proposed overall road diet on Marysville Boulevard between Grand and,

I can't remember. Sorry. Jennifer, any help? Okay, I think it's Grand and Arcade. Okay, Grand

and Arcade. So it'd be a smaller portion of that. There's, you know, we did hear quite a few concerns,

especially with it being a first phase and it really being a small segment of a road diet. So

I would love if the city would consider hosting another successful project in the city so that

people could see what this might look like. I think people are struggling with what this might

feel like for their community. If you don't know, that section of Marysville Boulevard is

effectively a highway, and it is a fairly misplaced highway, being that it's not, it's within the

community of course, next to schools, but it is also very short. And so we have a lot of sections

there that are go fast, then stop, then make a right, then stop, then go fast. And I think the

community is very concerned that this would add additional confusion and chaos, and that might

lead to more safety concerns and changes hard. So if we could just look for a way to have that

conversation, I think people are open to the idea, but they need a little bit more understanding

and visualization of what that might look like. And then I want to have a plug for an organization.

There's a young woman who is organizing a weekly bike ride from Uptown Takeout. They meet at 5 p.m.

at Uptown Takeout, and they go on different routes leaving at 6 p.m. So if anyone's interested

in joining them, she doesn't get a lot of takers, but I want you to know that if that's something

you're interested in, you are welcome to join her. Us, maybe. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner

Lisaa Cruz. I don't mean to take this on a dark note, but just yesterday I actually read a Cal

Matters investigation titled California Street Deadly Drivers. And the investigation found that

the DMV routinely allows drivers with a history of reckless and dangerous behavior to continue

driving. So some key findings include that nearly 40% of drivers charged with vehicular manslaughter

since 2019 had a valid driver's license. The DMV issued licenses to nearly 150 people

less than a year after they allegedly killed someone on the road. And many of these drivers

accused of causing roadway deaths continue to drive recklessly with nearly 400 getting tickets or

being involved in another crash after their deadly collisions. Many of these people involved in these

crashes are just ordinary people who want to go home, see loved ones, talk to friends, and hang

out at the park. These repeated actions of dangerous drivers with a history and pattern of

killing is appalling to me. And the fact that our system lets drivers kill pedestrians at

so many miles per hour on city streets is crazy to think of and handing them back their licenses

insane. As the article says, it really is a license to kill. And this is why we want to talk

about Vision Zero and why our amendments are very important because not only to me, but this

commission and the city as a whole, we need redundancies in our transportation system because

if one of them fails, like the judicial system or the DMV, it isn't safe or backed up by another

system, then more accidents can occur and more people actually, sorry, crashes can occur. And

more of these will occur and people will continue to die. So thank you.

Commissioner Hyatt.

Thank you, Commissioner Lisa Cruz for bringing that up. I read that article as well

and one of the other statistics was that from 2019 to early 2024, 20,000 people were killed

on streets in California. That doesn't necessarily just mean pedestrians in any type of collision,

but that is just absolutely astonishing considering that also includes the pandemic period when

people were not driving. Thanks for bringing that up. And if any of you haven't read that article,

get to CalMatters and it's titled Licensed to Kill. One thing I'm hesitant to talk about,

but forgive me for bringing it up because eventually I think it will come up again

and I would rather the applicant not be in the room. Last week we had a really close vote

and I think I don't quite understand why it was so close because we were asking the

applicant which was ATK Development Corporation, which is run by Angelo Zicopoulos, who is

net worth is about $600 million dollars, who said to us that they couldn't have more

bike lanes because of the cost. Now there could have been confusion amongst our commissioners that

the cost may have been on the city, but it wasn't. All of that development, which was otherwise Blight,

was being developed by Zicopoulos, which he would then become the landlord of.

And so this is an example of someone who spends a lot of money to influence politics in this city,

in this state, and in this country. His daughter is the lieutenant governor and is now running for

governor. So when a developer like that comes to us and says we can't because of the cost,

I'm really glad it passed because we were just asking them for a little bit more.

But that developer has been in the city for decades and many of our suburban sprawl and unsafe streets

are part of that history. So thank you for letting me say that and I just wanted to convey that I

hope that in the future we can push harder on these developers to have safer streets, better

bike lanes and more class ones. Thank you. I see no more commissioners in my queue.

So we will move on to the last item, which is public comments matters not on the agenda.

Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on public comments matters not on

the agenda? Thank you, chair. I have two speaker slips. Our first speaker is Kai.

Kai.

Good evening all council members. My father was killed at 6 and sub use street

and but the command police department provided me a forgery police report and make up a fake

driver, so far that killed my father. Will you come on?

Both mayor and all council members knew about my complaint. However, nobody

took action to find out who killed my who was the real driver that killed my father.

Even at the commission police review commission did not take any action. I have been here since

February 2024. I have been here more than 20 times. As of today, I still don't know who killed my

father, who was the real driver that killed my father. The reason I'm here today is I'm begging

your help to talk with other commission and the community leadership in Sacramento City

to know about that someone is controlling the Sacramento City government. Even the commission

tell them what to do, what not to do. I have a handout, at least all the detail.

Even KCRAV ABC 10 did not provide help. Even our state student, state capital radio

also didn't help. It proved that someone is controlling the government to cover a scandal

about my father's investigation. Thank you for all your time.

Thank you for your comment. Our last speaker is Matt Anderson.

Good evening, everyone. Sorry to leave this on a sour note, but I think many of you probably saw

about the SECPY article about the SEC Police Department and how they received a grant for

enforcement, safety enforcement against pedestrians and bicyclists. I just want to make sure for

those folks that haven't read it, I encourage you to go out and read it, encourage you to go home

and to your districts, talk to your council members about it. Hopefully you're all on the same page

of it's not pedestrians and bicyclists out there, mowing people down and killing people in our streets.

I leave that conversation to you. I do encourage you to talk with your friends about it, talk to

your council members. I think there are much better things that we can be spending our money on.

I hope that conversation continues. Thank you for your time and thank you for all that you do here.

Have a great rest of your night. Thank you for your comment, Chair. I have no more speakers on this

item. Thank you. This concludes today's agenda. Thank you everyone for your participation and the

meeting is adjourned.